How To RUIN YOUR FRANCHISE QB in Just One Year (The Deshone Kizer Tragedy)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- At one time, Deshone Kizer was considered the future franchise QB of the Cleveland Browns after he was a superstar at Notre Dame. Sadly, he arrived in 2017 just in time to be a sacrificial lamb for a really bad Browns team and this led to his downfall. Today, I want to talk about the rise & fall of Deshone Kizer and talk about how the Browns ruined his career, enjoy!
Спорт
![DDG & Blueface - Top ft. Swae Lee [Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p2wIDXar9ns/mqdefault.jpg)
What "failed NFL experiment" should I cover next? I feel bad for Deshone Kizer...
Why not Matt Leinart who at one time was the best qb at USC only to be one of the most saddest bust of the 2006 draft when he was drafted onto the Cardinals as a backup to the Kurt Warner Cardinals. Where Leinart would be constantly injured. He almost didn’t sign with them too due to the Cardinals situation but when he did sign he was the last one and got 50 million. But he in my opinion would be a what if?
Pat White from WVU to the Dolphins.
Matt Corral from Ole Miss to the NFL now UFL
Christian Hackenberg Penn St to a 2nd round pick to the Jets.
Brandon Weeden from OK State to oldest 1st round QB drafted, I do believe.
Josh Freeman KSU to 1st rounded in Tampa
Kyle Boller Cal to 1st rounder in Baltimore.
Corey Coleman (A.K.A THE NFL'S VERSION OF COVID-19).
Could also make one on Gino Toretta heisman winner and national champion with the 1991 Miami only to fall all the way down to 7th pick Minnesota Vikings but didn’t play a down till 1996 for the Dolphins but would later retire in 1997
Justin Gilbert
The list of guys who never made a real name for themselves because of the teams they went to is INSANE
I wonder how many went to the browns 😪
Overthinking it. By this measure there's no such thing as a bust. Yeah David Carr is actually just as good as Tom Brady!
Truth is: in 99% of cases you are what you are. Great QBs often get drafted very high to very bad organizations that earned those high draft picks.. then suddenly those teams are competitive for a decade plus. Hm how'd that happen?
Also why is it only QBs who are ever given this excuse? As if there's any position on the field not reliant on factors out of personal control, whether it be other players doing their job or play calling not taking you out of position to make an impact.
@@yepdontcarebud no you’re overthinking it. I didn’t say this was the case for every single player, and just because you say so don’t make it right. “In 99% of cases” nothing you can LITERALLY go listen to stars speak on how the never would have became what they were without that team or coaching. Where you go matters for almost**everyone, if you think Pat Mahomes could have went anywhere and had the same success that’s delusional, same with Brady, same with a lot of guys. What I said wasn’t an opinion. You know how many times a bad team drafted a top QB and they did nothing but when they left they became good, now not just QBs think of it overall.
From guys being drafted late to a good team and never getting a chance to guys going into terrible situations and not being developed my statement is 100% true
you're assuming these guys were even good enough to be stars in the nfl. some of these guys just suck at the pro level
It’s crazy how situation-dependent success can be. Baker Mayfield made a Pro Bowl last season, when the year before that, he was taking scout team defensive end reps for Carolina in practice.
He should’ve stayed for his senior year as per his head coach in college said.
that was also a big factor in Johnny Manziel's career
Kelly definitely said that, I remember being high on Deshone Kizer. If he wasn’t going to stay for his senior year, wherever he went in the NFL needed to give him the quote, sit and develop” treatment, not have a guy who was not ready be the week one starter. It was such a Browns move at the time, and it absolutely destroy the poor kid’s career.
The worst thing that happened to Vince Young was winning the college championship too early - in his junior year.
At that time, he was the first QB in history to have more than 1000 yards running and 3000 yards passing.
He was so raw - he needed one more year to get his passing up to NFL standards.
Winning the championship too early gave him no reason to stay for one more year so that he could be better prepared for the NFL.
Considering every Kelly QB at ND regressed he was probably screwed either way :-(
So even Kizer's coach knew the Browns would be a dumpster fire? Sheesh!
I remembered seeing him play, He showed flashes of being good during that 0-16 season but yet again Browns franchise was a complete mess at the time.
Browns are still a complete mess
The key figure is that he was 0-16 as a starter that season. 😡
@@briannettles669 0-15, actually. Kevin Hogan lost to the Texans that year.
No he didn't.
Still is a shit show. Who Dey ! 🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅
Wait a second.. this guys college coach said “he has no business going to the nfl, he isn’t mature enough and needs to return to college” he then was a second round pick, and never played well once in his life lol this video shouldn’t have even ever been made
I'm with you on this one. In fact, I saw him play a few times in college and was not very impressed. Yes, he had some nice games and a huge arm, but nothing made me scream "NFL starter.' He made to many wrong reads and bad decisions (which didn't hurt him much because the schedule was pretty weak). In the NFL, you can't make up for those kinds of mistakes just because you have a big arm. Would another season in college have helped? Maybe. But he would have had to buy in to the team concept, which did not seem to be his forte.
I wouldn't even call him a bust, he was a second round pick and he shouldn't even went that high
He really needed to stay in college for at least another year. Way too green to declare
Exactly
For real. This video shouldn’t have even ever been made lol every team knew he was trash and his coach in college told nfl teams he wasn’t ready to play for them and he was immature. Nobody thought he was good
As a die-hard Browns fanatic, I agree. He went in the 2nd round as a green prospect because the raw talent was there but it was rushed and not developed properly at all. He was thrown to the wolves per se. He would've been a top 5 pick had he stayed at Notre Dame for his senior year and improved.
@ManoPeace-ManoWaryourchoice86 yes I mean Sashi Brown got it right with Myles and Njoku but dropped the ball so badly on drafting Kizer, not saying they would have been a good team that year but there's no way they go 0-16 with atleast competent quarterback play
He was NEVER a potential franchise qb. His accuracy was terrible. He was just a big arm. He went on to play in Green Bay and wasn’t good there either. Where are we creating these terrible narratives from?
They just make content for content’s sake
Click bait and we fell for it…
Teams needed quarterback
He was a kid with tools and a "concussed" personality... nothin' there, so he lacked the "IT" factor between the ears.
Kizer never really had franchise vibes from what I saw. I didn’t watch his college days but I didn’t have to. The only place he was starting was on teams like the browns, he wasn’t starting on any of the other decent or above teams
His own coach said he should of stay another year college he was never a franchise QB no matter if he went to the browns or not. Born and raised in Cleveland the browns have always picked guys that shouldn't be picked at the spots they are drafted etc. Outside of the last few years most guys we drafted would not start on other teams or even make the team lol.
He really wasn’t an NFL caliber QB. Didn’t see it in college. ND’s struggles in 2016 were mostly on him as they had a TON of talent around him. He just had to play hero ball every single game and saw it as his NFL audition instead of playing for Notre Dame. He was a Diva in college. Plain and simple. Had the talent but never the mindset to be great.
As a diehard Notre Dame fan who has fond memories of that 2015 team, myself and most other ND fans still knew Kizer wasn't going to do anything in the pros. He had the size and the arm strength, but his accuracy and decision-making were very suspect. Couple that with being on the Browns, and yeah...
He was also a dick whenever I saw him around campus, so I'm kind of glad things didn't pan out for him.
Really how bad was his attitude
I was always hating on him too. Lol he wasn't even that good
@@amgfresh154 I can't speak to his general attitude. It just seemed that whenever I saw him while grabbing food late at night or saw him in between classes, he was condescending and patronizing. Like he deserved preferential treatment.
@@BlakeWR81homie based his accusation of absolutely nothing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@WhoIsMikeJones568 I went to school with the guy, I'm basing it on being around him and having a class or two with him for a couple of years. I'm not pretending I was his friend, but it's not like I had no idea who he was.
I remember decades ago when Buffalo was the place where NFL careers went to die. Something about that "Rust Belt," I guess :/
I played on the same baseball team as Kizer for years , He was a cool dude . Never in those moments would I have thought I was playing catch with a future nfl QB
The way they thew him away like a used napkin after his first season to get baker mayfield still bothers me til this day
he sucks.
It hurt seeing our boy go through this but lots of us agree he needed another year
So many want thay fast money to be young and experience notre damn campus life one more year sounds amazing
His college coach was like yeah he isnt ready.
Got to say , not a Cleveland supporter, but doesn’t the player have a responsibility to prepare himself ? Take his job serious and not lead the league in interceptions during his party year ?
The thing was that he should have never been a Franchise player to come in and save the day. He had a lot of the physicals but lacked the actual skill and should've been a backup for some time.
Any quarterback that comes to Cleveland through the draft is done.. Tim couch, colt McCoy, DeSean Kaiser, they almost killed Baker Mayfield if he wouldn’t of got traded, charlie Frye , Luke McCown, Brandon Weeden,
Brady Quinn , Johnny football, Robert Griffin 3rd, Seneca Wallace, Spurgeon Wynn I mean, I can keep going think about it. Cleveland is the graveyard for quarterbacks… look Deshaun Watson just got there after breaking a whole Lot of records Looks like his career is done.
You cant ruin a good QB unless its an Andrew Luck or a Tim Couch. Where they are ruined by the beating they take and injuries. Deshawn Kizer was only with Cleveland for 1 season then traded. Baker came in the next season and was just fine. This like saying the Cardinals ruined Josh Rosen career. They just ain't have it for the NFL. Its just as simple as that.
Hue Jackson made a good effort at ruining Mayfields career but by that point, you could clearly see the difference between a college QB and a Pro... and Hue was the problem, NOT the QB at that point.
Rosen had the talent, but he was a giant dewsh. The cards did him no favor, but he did himself no favor either.
I don't think the Browns should get any draft picks until they start consistently playing better. Tossing a young player to them, is almost always going to be waste of time and talent.
I don't know why anybody would have thought this guy was ever a franchise quarterback. It wouldn't take long of watching him play to see he is not that.
Finally some love for this poor bastard
I remember thinking we found our guy after Kiser threw what I remember it being like a 30 yard bomb during the preseason.
His own coach said he should have stayed another year in college he was never a franchise QB no matter if he went to the browns or not. Born and raised in Cleveland the browns have always picked guys that shouldn't be picked at the spots they are drafted etc. Outside of the last few years most guys we drafted would not start for other teams or even make the team lol.
He had raw arm talent and athleticism, but he wasn’t ready to start games his rookie year. Going to the Browns almost certainly didn’t help…
You understand just like tim couch he needed better
He came out of college as an unpolished prospect. I think he should've listened to his coaches and go back for a year before entering the draft. I think that would've helped him better develop and improve on his game before going pro.
I would love to see a video on Limas Sweed. Real heartbreak of an NFL career after a very promising run through college.
who?
@@ScottFisherCFBhe was on the 2008 steelers
He was so good in college I thought he would make it in the nfl sad he didn’t
I’ve been a Notre Dame fan for a long time and damn that man was so good and so fun to watch. He really had great potential but he decided to enter the draft possibly too early.
"Superstar at Notre Dame"? 19 picks in 2 years. 4-8 record when it was "his" team. 60 % completion pct. doesn't make it these days. EVERY NFL team had a chance to pick him before he went in the 2nd round.
I remember he tried to grind out a W at home against the Steelers.
Cleveland has had teams that could win it all since 2019, especially those 2020 and 21 teams.
In all seriousness, I always thought Deshone Kizer was never really a good draft pick, but I also believed the Browns kind of ruined him. From what I saw from him in '17, he looked a hell of a lot like Ryan Leaf, completing a mere 53% of his passes and throwing an appalling, league-leading 22 interceptions over his measly 11 touchdowns. Obviously, those numbers are abysmal numbers, but it wasn't all on him. To be quite frank, he never had any reliable receivers to throw to outside of Josh Gordon and David Njoku (Tight End), not to mention that Hue Jackson and his coaching crew did nothing to help promote success from him.
At this point, I think the Browns never gave Kizer a fair chance of success. Had they had more convincing receivers on offense, Kizer may have fared better. This isn't anything personal, but sometimes I get the feeling they might've been better off not drafting him so soon, and maybe not at all. Clearly, they aren't good at drafting quarterbacks, hence why very few of them have made the pro football hall of fame throughout the team's existence.
Packers didn't need him .He was a project quarterback that the Packers didn't need at the time ,they just needed a solid back up witch they didn't have. Rodgers at the time had many years left. The way Love was handled was much better for an ageing Rodgers. The right coach who could of cleaned up his mechanics would have made him a hell of a prospect with that arm and talent as you see with Love in his first year.
Kizer should’ve stayed at ND for one more year. He wasn’t ready for the NFL
I thought the thumbnail was Deshaun Watson, both of their careers died in Cleveland
You forgot to add PERMANENTLY in your video title.
I'm from Toledo. He was a BEAST in high school
He seems like the kind of dude who would be into NFTs
He knew he wasn’t ready for the league and he went anyways that’s on him …
As a Browns fan, I remember him being hyped as our Big Ben. We just turn everything into a disaster somehow.
Biggest problem there is you were lied to. Teams don't ruin a Roethlisberger, Roethlisbergers fix teams.
@yepdontcarebud I have no doubt in my mind we were getting more coverage and talked about more often when we were picking top 3 year after year. The game is such a business that it doesn't matter if you win or lose on the field.
Deshone Kizer feels like a fever dream that I remember from time to time
Kizer is my boy. Growing up close to Notre Dame, I loved this guy. I collect his cards to this day.
Let's be totally honest here! He was at best average at Notre Dame! And accusing the browns of ruining his career is a far fetch.
Baker was fortunate to get out of Cleveland.
Kizer wasn’t even good enough in college
I was hoping for his success. He was one of my favorite QBs coming out of college. I felt like Cleveland stunted his development.
I watch every single one of those games with my father we may have turn them off early but every single Sunday the Cleveland Browns played we watched I was 11 and felt bad for the qb I was young but I knew our franchise threw bra in da fire💯💯
He retired to start his own company! How is that a tragic story?! He is happy pursuing a new dream and is saving his brain
You know what he meant.
@@JohnDaDong93PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE 💀
He went and started an nft business. I'm sure he scammed some suckers during the boom but that market is dead right now.
what he did wrong was he entered the NFL too early. he needed to stay another year at Notre Dame at least
Deshaun Kizer was never that good lol
The Browns had a choice between the Rye or the Kizer.... They should have chose the Rye
They didn’t ruin anything, he just wasnt a good qb. He was a shaky prospect going in and had a below average completion % and came from a college not known for producing nfl qbs i think he would have failed regardless as he would in gb, if he was any good he would have at least done a little better there…
Teams drool over tools but they should have seen this guy didn't have it between the ears or in the heart... even if the Browns are a dumpster fired.
Never knew what it feels like to win a game.
🤣🤣🤣
Notre Dame doesn't produce NFL QBs, WRs, RBs, CBs, LBs. They've produced s few quality O Lineman.
But it's not shocking to see why they get blown out everytime they play in the CFP.
This is why players avoid going to the Browns.
He was not a can't miss pro QB. He was okay in college not elite
I think he should’ve went back to college for another year to hone his skills
He really had the worst possible situation, but I don’t think he would have done anything even if he had better coaching and a chance to learn. He just didn’t process info and wasn’t accurate enough to be an NFL starter.
I don't think this is the Browns fault. He was very inaccurate and he had some of the worst awareness I've seen. He would hold onto the ball for an eternity until he was strip sacked.
Who is the biggest what if in your opinion?
as a browns fan i remember watching this game and while he did show flashes he still wasn’t good rookie or not. I never really saw growth game to game even if it was just a little growth. I think both things can be true: The browns set him up to fail AND He just simply wasn’t cut for it
Oh wow i had forgotten he was raiders backups & then got cut
What is NFT?
If there was one qb to cover that was ruined by the Browns its Tim Couch. He got destroyed behind that offensive live. Led league in sacks ever season he played for them. Kizer would have been a first round pick if teams thought he was gonna be a really good qb.
I don't recall him ever being labeled a franchise QB. As sad as that browns team was, they didn't ruin him. 1 year doesn't ruin anyone. If he went on to succeed, the narrative would have been how leaving Cleveland saved him. Many great QBs had horrible stats in year 1. If they didn't get another shot, you'd just blame the team.
'franchise Qb" rent must be due
Everyone knows since 1999 the Browns have been a QB graveyard full of the ghosts of what could have been and what used to be. It's not just Kizer so many have been drafted and just never lived up to the hype there. The best they had during that time (Mayfield) never seemed to be enough for them.
I really don’t think Kizer would have been successful anywhere. He wasn’t accurate at all or committed to getting better. Notre Dame QBs just infamously never work out ever since Montana.
He was a bust from the start. He even got benched in his last year of college.
Starting QB of the 0-16 Browns team.
Truth was he wasn't ready for the NFL. Totally needed another year of college.
Sometimes players are not built for the NFL…. Here’s an example of that
Who scripts these for you? He was "thrown to the wolves" not thrown into the wolves...
Can you do deep dive on Josh Freeman . How the Tampa Bay organization ruined him.. well the coach at that time..
They only drafted him cuz he looked like a knock off Bruno Mars
The Browns were screwed by the league (the other Owners) when they got their team back. They didn't get anything the Jags and Panthers got when they came into the league. Remember the Jags and Panthers both got to the AFC and NFC championship games in their second year. The Owners were like F that and the league shafted the Browns on players they could take from other teams. I'm not a Browns fan but have been keeping an eye on them and been rooting for them (because how the league screwed them) unless they play my team.
Kaiser was never a franchise Quarterback he was a boom or bust pick he had a chance to be groomed under Aaron Rodgers and was cut so don't blame it on the Browns try Marcus Mariota, Josh Rosen,Aaron Murray Paxton Lynch Taj Boy and ,A.J.McCarron but nobody wants to bring him up he was the biggest bust of QBs at that time
He chased the money when he was eligible for the draft. I remember him playing in college, he was ok, but not a franchise type Quarterback.
Browns screw up every chance they get paid Deshawn record contract for him to not even play most of the last couple years
Kizer dad sounds like he saw dollar signs in his son which is sad
Kizer is from my hometown man sucked seeing his career go tits up , dude shouldn’t have left college so early
Dude should’ve tried to play up in the CFL he had the perfect style of play for that league
Let me tell from a Browns fan point of view. I had high hope for Hue Jackson but I thought they should had hire Kevin from jump. Hue was a crap coach he just wanted the glory and a pay check. According to my family he was generally not most of the time he let all his staff run the practices. He only there for the cameras. Hue Jackson did care. That is my feeling about Hue Jackson. He threw everyone under the bus and it wasn't he fault it was the players and his coaching staff.
I seen him win that HS Championship!!!
Clever saw DeShawn Watson and was like we have DeShawn at home and drafted this guy then a few years later we're like okay let's get the other DeShawn, now they're probably gonna move on again after a few years of being decent
I forgot all about him
Guy was never NFL material. Average at best in college but had no business being a pro starter.
Kizer had no chance, A lot of guys get drafted to bad situations and don't have what it takes/find success elsewhere. Kizer NEVER had a shot in Cleveland at this time
DeShone was bad at Notre Dame.
Picking a crap quarterback in the second round who clearly is not a starting quarterback in the NFL and forcing him to be the starting quarterback is a clear recipe for disaster. It did not matter who chose Kizer, he was clearly not a starting quarterback in the NFL and I am not convinced he could be a competent backup either! Kizer could not make it in the NFL and it did not matter who drafted him or how patient they were with him.
Agreed imo kizer's story is a classic example of what can go wrong when you bet on yourself he was someone who clearly should have stayed a year or 2 longer in college
Da Ann, he’s better than half the UFL QB’s.
Bro maybe. If teams cut him left and right. He just wasn't good enough?
Let me know when you get to Jamarcus Russel then I might watch
Kizer was as much a franchise QB as Manziel
Bruh him and fullers careers ended as what could of been
I am a notre dame fan and let me just say, Kizer was never gonna be that guy. No matter where he went. He just didnt have that dawg in him.
Do 1 on Marcus Vick
Do you know who josh Gordon is asking for a friend
God bless gall
Should have started Cody Kessler, would have won like 4 games.
Cold thing, he would’ve been great with Andy Reid