Also about Albert not having a blessing that might not be true technically because the god Ouranos came down from heaven 1000 years ago apparently and that's the same time period as Albert mind you it could've been after Alberts defeat as I believe it was stated Ouranos was either one if not the first god to descend down hence why his been doing the prayer thing for the dungeon the longest. besides he has Aria to boost his strength with her wind magic which all most spirits are considered around level 7ish or higher in terms of raw power. This doesn't disregard Albert as being the best tho since his sword fighting skills is considered utterly beautiful and flawless having no equals in terms of techniques and openings.
I checked. The first gods come down to earth after Albert death. Albert was the last hero Dearing the age of Hero started by Argonaut. After Albert the age of gods started.
Everyone gets smacked by ottar, bro has every stat at S , maxed out, can boost to a level 8 with his skill , and it only takes 5 minutes for him to recover after using his boosting power, not to mention that foo killed udaeus (floor 30) boss , by himself and managed to steal his sword and had it crafted into a weapon 😭
Would you be updating the rankings of level 5s and above considering the new updates and the slow moving arcs of recent and future volumes for a while?
Spoiler down here about volume 18 but Bell as a level 5 is very strong but he still lacks experience that other adventures of his level have such as battle skills due to lack of time being an adventure as its pointed out it also takes time for a person to adjust to leveling up and while Bell has been doing an amazing job he still struggles to keep up with his body'snew strength mentally speaking. Ryuu who became level 6 skipped her level 5 base stats( this is because there are two type of leveling systems experience points which you put in stats and achievements which ryuu had performed so many she could level up twice but skipped base stats of level 5 as a downside making her the weakest level 6 around unfortunately) mind you normally you'd need atleast 1 D stat in your base stats before leveling up but I guess you can cheese the system by having atleast 1 d stat in level 4 and just skip level 5 by having enough achievement points for your level which is what ryuu did but lacks base stats for level 5 which is very fair in my opinion. Even so she is the weakest level 6 unfortunately and is probably still slightly weaker then Bell, Shakti while being still being slightly stronger than the Gulliver brothers(mind you not so much when they fight together which finn even stated no adventure that is currently alive could beat the 4 brothers teamwork by themselves Ottar included.)
@@redlinelogbook ok so let me gets this straight when bell level up he basically skips a level hense why he on par with them so when we talk about a level 4 bell he really a level 5 bell right?
Not exactly. Because Bell breaks the limit on his States. when his States are at a high he basically level up already. When Bell a level 4 and all his States are SS or SSS he basically a level 5. This only works because all of his States at every level are SS or SSS.
@@sueflewelling3657 no it's more like he's in the mide range of his level off the bat. When bell was fighting Hyakinthos he was a level 2 with SS and SSS stats and Hya was a low level 3. Bell was already faster but weaker in every other stat. So when he first level up to 3 he was in the mide ranking of level 3
Sadly, Danmachi Volume 18 and Sword Oratoria Volume 13 changes much of this list. Anakitty levels up to level 5 and pretty much all level 2 and 3 adventures in the Loki familia go up a level. Ryuu is also now a level 6, Bell is a level 5, and Haruhime becomes a level 2. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ottar leveled to 8, but I’ll need to wait till volume 19 and 14 to be able to confirm.
Google. "mayhem audiobook Odyssey" and you can read volume 18 and many other LN. As for them leveling up to 7 it most likely because of the final battle in volume 12 of sword Oratoria. I don't know for sure because volume 13 still isn't out.
Bell is 13 and Ryuu is complicated. She should be 12 because she skipped level 5 and that means all her level 5 stats are I0. But she now has a new skill that grants her all of her families magic. This includes a mass healing spell. And more importantly Alice's magic. Wich enhance all stats and gives you control over fire. Wich Ryuu can mice with her wind. So that one would take time to think about.
Are you sure it was Anakitty and not Chloe (who was an assassin) that tried to beat Shakti and failed? I know we haven't seen much of Tsubaki, but she was able to keep Gareth occupied during the Xenos incident. I would place her above Dix at least. Ais can't beat Ottar. Even with Ariel and Avenger. You don't know what Ottar's spell or his special ability does. But even without them he handles Ais. And Alfia at her power level when she died was still stronger than Ais. Zard at full strength probably would as well. Riveria might lose only because her chanting takes a while, but she can concurrent chant so I wouldn't count her out either. I mean I like Ais fine but she is way too high here. There are 11 level 5s in Ganesha Familia and we nothing about any of them except that Shakti is the strongest. It's really tough to rank Ilta when we have no idea what her powers or skills are. We still don't know much about Shakti either. As for Bell, if he can't charge Argonaut for a long enough period, he is still lacking years of training and technique compared to most adventurers. He is a fast learner, and yes he beat up Freya's level 4 and lower goons, but I imagine he would have a lot of trouble with Ryu and Asfi with their fighting styles. Possibly even Lunor and Chloe as well. Is he stronger than any 5s at the end of 17? I would say probably but it would be his speed if anything that might allow him to win. Had he fought Dix or Phryne at that point I think he stands a decent chance of beating them but I don't think he beats Tsubaki or Shakti. Valetta is a cheap shot artist. She even said her spell is almost never useful except in the very circumstances she trapped Bete. She wouldn't beat most if any of the other 5s one on one. I wouldn't include any of the corrupted spirit's minions because they really aren't human any more. And there is a decent chance that Revis has some magic that might make her more powerful but Omori didn't use it for specific reasons. And I'm pretty sure there were more 7s and 8s in Zeus and Hera that we don't know their names but would be high on the list. And there is the level 7 mentioned by Finn in one of the short stories that is the only person according to Finn that can possibly contain Ottar.
Chloe the assassin I'm pretty sure I said that when I said she tried to kill Shakti. Anakitty is a member of Loki familia. It wasn't just her. Welf with his strongest magic sword at that point and the evils were all attacking him.
Ais is so high is because I comparing everyone at there most powerful. Ais would never use Revenger against a human like Otter but if she did he already admitted she stronger. As for that mystery level 7 I now about him. I think he's the captain of the Poseidon familia. I didn't bring him up the same reason I didn't bring up all the level 5 from Ganesha familia. We now nothing.
@@redlinelogbook Ais doesn't beat Ottar. Avenger activated or not. She barely beat Revis with Bell's chime and Ottar would beat Revis easily. Revis didn't even want to challenge Finn. Ottar has a skill that you haven't seen and a spell no one has seen but obviously used enough to get his magic as high as it is. Omori is not consistent with his power scaling and also not always consistent between all his series even when it comes to events. Someone may have said Ais is stronger when it comes to fighting monsters because of Avenger, and she might now be able to choose who's the monster, but when the chips are down, Ais isn't stronger than nor is she beating Ottar with the gap that is between them right now. I know views are subjective, and in my view from everything I've read, Ais won't beat any level 7, and she won't beat Loki's top 3 and Freya's 3 level 6s. Hedin and Hegni are almost as skilled swordsmen with more magic. Allen's speed is off the charts. Every one of the big dogs has a broken skill or spell if not more than one. Even some of the lower levels do too. Welf could potentially one-shot a much higher level mage with his spell because it reflects back the power being put in. They've shown Ais pretty much at her most powerful against Revis. Barely a W. They've shown Bete pretty close to his when he destroyed Valetta after taking tons of damage. Aside from those two we have not seen Finn fully stretch his limits, nor Gareth nor Riveria. The closest we came with Allen was during Astrea Record which was 5 years ago. We haven't seen Hedin or Hegni cut loose at full power. And we haven't seen much of anything on Ottar. I doubt we'll see most of them at full power except for the Loki members because of SO. Since no one has seen Ottar at his most powerful it is completely unfair to compare him not knowing his powers to Ais who we do. Even without knowing what I know I would never have Ais beating Ottar, but now, especially not. He is the strongest, by far. And he proves it, spectacularly. No one in Orario can hold a candle to him. No one.
@@redlinelogbook you specifically said Anakitty tried to go up against Shakti in your video. As for Tsubaki. She told Welf and Mikoto to keep going and then kept Gareth occupied by herself. And the accounts in SO and Danmachi do vary slightly.
Honestly i would've put Bell higher. In so vol 12 he one shot the spirit which was a level 7? Its been a year so correct me if im wrong and he cant normally do this but his destructive capabilities are there
Yes and no. He used Argonaut at full charge. Which is 4 minutes now. But it wasn't fighting back because it was a bomb. If it was attacking Bell when he was charging Bell wouldn't have a chance. No normal enemy would let Bell fully charge.
@@redlinelogbook Yeah i just mention it because it gave a Boost against the spirit, in normal conditions that ability is useless, there a few ox type monster who are strong and is useless against adventures
First of all I agree that bell in level 4 is on part with at least level 5 but he does have some feats that might put him on the low hand of level 6. Second, I think the whole suffering he was put through while he was kidnapped was enough to level him up to level 5. BTW, I haven't read volume 18, it's just common sense
I ranked him below Dix and a couple other level 5. So I agree he was not on the lower end of 6. As for volume 18 I said already I might have to make a upgrade video when I get a translation but until then I'm going with what I have. And what I have is Bell makes out level 4 by the end of volume 17.
I explained in the video that she can freely unlock the power of a level 7 with her skill that even surpassed otter. But that was before I read volume 18. I now know otter has a skill that makes him a level 8. So he is stronger now.
That doesn't help with ranking because I need to now everyone actual feats and the context of those feats. I need to read volume 18 first before I make any updates.
DanMachi Light Novel Volume 18/Synopsis if you want to know what happens in the volume just write this on Google it isn't detailed but it can help you to understand how strong thay are Spoiler alert ball can clach with otar strongest hit and loki top 3 have leveled up to level 7
With simple power scaling 🤓 ais with all her stacked buffs avenger so on could only take ateriouses left arm while he was off guard and while on guard was soloing ais to the point she had to pull back with a !single arm this same asterious looks at ottar and says yeah even if i was at my best I wouldn't stand a chance.
No she was winning completely. In the anime Ateriouses hit Ais but in the novel her wind repealed all of his attacks. Ais was cutting him to Pieces. When Ateriouses fight Bell he was at deaths door. That's why a level 3 Bell could take on a level 7 monster. Fin only made Ais pullback because the black flame was consuming her.
@@redlinelogbook It's actually noted that Asterious' blows were tearing at her wind, and single solid blow would end the fight. The only real reason that Ais could hold her own so well is because Airiel was actively pulling her away from his hits, instead of just trying to block it. She probably would have one in the end, all things considered, but it would have been a close fight.
@@redlinelogbook I dunno bout that... Asterious was getting better but his lack of fighting humans had him at a loss. The list is tough to flesh out due to some of them having unique skills that are great for monsters but will not do much against other humans. Remember, Bell has that ability that gives him a power boost against Bull-Like Creatures I think (however it was stated). So Asterious being wounded was not the only factor in that fight. If you are fighting Minotaurs, you want Bell in that fight.
Bell got the skill against bull monster after the fight with arteriosus when he became a level 4. So Ais cutting him up was the only reason Bell stud a chance. But you are right Bell in the future will be the only one that can beat Arteriosus because he's e still training. Ais even said he will get stronger.
Thank for finishing, well done
I like the pictures on the characters ( the sexy ladies ).
Thanks for the support. It should have come out early but part of the video got corrupted and I had to remake it.
@@redlinelogbook thanks, Bell in the latest novel goes up a level again ( level 5 ).
I have not read 18 yet because I don't speak Japanese and I can't find any fan translation. So please no spoilers.
Thank you so much for this . 👍
all i know in volume 18 is that..
OTTAR IS A BEAST
Also about Albert not having a blessing that might not be true technically because the god Ouranos came down from heaven 1000 years ago apparently and that's the same time period as Albert mind you it could've been after Alberts defeat as I believe it was stated Ouranos was either one if not the first god to descend down hence why his been doing the prayer thing for the dungeon the longest. besides he has Aria to boost his strength with her wind magic which all most spirits are considered around level 7ish or higher in terms of raw power. This doesn't disregard Albert as being the best tho since his sword fighting skills is considered utterly beautiful and flawless having no equals in terms of techniques and openings.
I checked. The first gods come down to earth after Albert death. Albert was the last hero Dearing the age of Hero started by Argonaut. After Albert the age of gods started.
@@redlinelogbook ah ok that makes sense since both were pretty much 1000 years I wasn't 100% sure thanks for letting me know.
No prob I was also confused about the time line so I had to double check just to answer your question
Tione may be the hotter waifu, but Tiona is the stronger of the two. My biggest gripe with this list.
mamma mia is level 6??!?!?!? No wonder people are afraid of her at that bar 😅
And the former captain of the Freya familia
@@redlinelogbook really ...she was in freya familia?
She still is. She only semi-retired. If Freya what's her to do something she has to do it.
Ais gets smacked by ottar…. She is not the most powerful in the series
Everyone gets smacked by ottar, bro has every stat at S , maxed out, can boost to a level 8 with his skill , and it only takes 5 minutes for him to recover after using his boosting power, not to mention that foo killed udaeus (floor 30) boss , by himself and managed to steal his sword and had it crafted into a weapon 😭
I make this before volume 18. I didn't know anything about ottar yet.
Will you update this three video after the new five-volumes come in the English.(18,13,1~3)
I may. The next few NL will probably change up the only the top tier so I don't think I will have to remake all three video. Makes it easier for me.
Would you be updating the rankings of level 5s and above considering the new updates and the slow moving arcs of recent and future volumes for a while?
I'm thinking about it
Spoiler down here about volume 18 but
Bell as a level 5 is very strong but he still lacks experience that other adventures of his level have such as battle skills due to lack of time being an adventure as its pointed out it also takes time for a person to adjust to leveling up and while Bell has been doing an amazing job he still struggles to keep up with his body'snew strength mentally speaking. Ryuu who became level 6 skipped her level 5 base stats( this is because there are two type of leveling systems experience points which you put in stats and achievements which ryuu had performed so many she could level up twice but skipped base stats of level 5 as a downside making her the weakest level 6 around unfortunately) mind you normally you'd need atleast 1 D stat in your base stats before leveling up but I guess you can cheese the system by having atleast 1 d stat in level 4 and just skip level 5 by having enough achievement points for your level which is what ryuu did but lacks base stats for level 5 which is very fair in my opinion. Even so she is the weakest level 6 unfortunately and is probably still slightly weaker then Bell, Shakti while being still being slightly stronger than the Gulliver brothers(mind you not so much when they fight together which finn even stated no adventure that is currently alive could beat the 4 brothers teamwork by themselves Ottar included.)
So ryuu is the weakest level 6. Where is this stated? I want to read up on this 😅
great video is it ok if I ask you a question above bell level
What?
@@redlinelogbook ok so let me gets this straight when bell level up he basically skips a level hense why he on par with them so when we talk about a level 4 bell he really a level 5 bell right?
Not exactly. Because Bell breaks the limit on his States. when his States are at a high he basically level up already.
When Bell a level 4 and all his States are SS or SSS he basically a level 5. This only works because all of his States at every level are SS or SSS.
@@redlinelogbook so basically when he level up he at the peak of that level ready to level up again when he earned it right?
@@sueflewelling3657 no it's more like he's in the mide range of his level off the bat.
When bell was fighting Hyakinthos he was a level 2 with SS and SSS stats and Hya was a low level 3. Bell was already faster but weaker in every other stat. So when he first level up to 3 he was in the mide ranking of level 3
Sadly, Danmachi Volume 18 and Sword Oratoria Volume 13 changes much of this list. Anakitty levels up to level 5 and pretty much all level 2 and 3 adventures in the Loki familia go up a level. Ryuu is also now a level 6, Bell is a level 5, and Haruhime becomes a level 2. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ottar leveled to 8, but I’ll need to wait till volume 19 and 14 to be able to confirm.
I read volume 18 since then but not SO 13. Where you read it.
and the captains of loki familia became lv 7
where do you even red 18 main and SO 13?
@@julimonroy1724 how did they level up?
Google. "mayhem audiobook Odyssey" and you can read volume 18 and many other LN.
As for them leveling up to 7 it most likely because of the final battle in volume 12 of sword Oratoria. I don't know for sure because volume 13 still isn't out.
redline you read the newer chapters of danmachi?
Light novel or manga. When I made this video I had not read volume 18 was not out yet. That video needs a update
@@redlinelogbookhave you read it now and if you did what number is bell at
I have and Bell would be the strongest level 5 but all the level 6 would be above him.
@@redlinelogbook one what number is that in terms of strongest and two including ryuu?
Bell is 13 and Ryuu is complicated. She should be 12 because she skipped level 5 and that means all her level 5 stats are I0. But she now has a new skill that grants her all of her families magic. This includes a mass healing spell. And more importantly Alice's magic. Wich enhance all stats and gives you control over fire. Wich Ryuu can mice with her wind. So that one would take time to think about.
Are you sure it was Anakitty and not Chloe (who was an assassin) that tried to beat Shakti and failed?
I know we haven't seen much of Tsubaki, but she was able to keep Gareth occupied during the Xenos incident. I would place her above Dix at least.
Ais can't beat Ottar. Even with Ariel and Avenger. You don't know what Ottar's spell or his special ability does. But even without them he handles Ais. And Alfia at her power level when she died was still stronger than Ais. Zard at full strength probably would as well. Riveria might lose only because her chanting takes a while, but she can concurrent chant so I wouldn't count her out either. I mean I like Ais fine but she is way too high here.
There are 11 level 5s in Ganesha Familia and we nothing about any of them except that Shakti is the strongest. It's really tough to rank Ilta when we have no idea what her powers or skills are. We still don't know much about Shakti either.
As for Bell, if he can't charge Argonaut for a long enough period, he is still lacking years of training and technique compared to most adventurers. He is a fast learner, and yes he beat up Freya's level 4 and lower goons, but I imagine he would have a lot of trouble with Ryu and Asfi with their fighting styles. Possibly even Lunor and Chloe as well. Is he stronger than any 5s at the end of 17? I would say probably but it would be his speed if anything that might allow him to win. Had he fought Dix or Phryne at that point I think he stands a decent chance of beating them but I don't think he beats Tsubaki or Shakti.
Valetta is a cheap shot artist. She even said her spell is almost never useful except in the very circumstances she trapped Bete. She wouldn't beat most if any of the other 5s one on one.
I wouldn't include any of the corrupted spirit's minions because they really aren't human any more. And there is a decent chance that Revis has some magic that might make her more powerful but Omori didn't use it for specific reasons.
And I'm pretty sure there were more 7s and 8s in Zeus and Hera that we don't know their names but would be high on the list.
And there is the level 7 mentioned by Finn in one of the short stories that is the only person according to Finn that can possibly contain Ottar.
Chloe the assassin I'm pretty sure I said that when I said she tried to kill Shakti. Anakitty is a member of Loki familia.
It wasn't just her. Welf with his strongest magic sword at that point and the evils were all attacking him.
Ais is so high is because I comparing everyone at there most powerful. Ais would never use Revenger against a human like Otter but if she did he already admitted she stronger.
As for that mystery level 7 I now about him. I think he's the captain of the Poseidon familia. I didn't bring him up the same reason I didn't bring up all the level 5 from Ganesha familia. We now nothing.
@@redlinelogbook Ais doesn't beat Ottar. Avenger activated or not. She barely beat Revis with Bell's chime and Ottar would beat Revis easily. Revis didn't even want to challenge Finn.
Ottar has a skill that you haven't seen and a spell no one has seen but obviously used enough to get his magic as high as it is.
Omori is not consistent with his power scaling and also not always consistent between all his series even when it comes to events. Someone may have said Ais is stronger when it comes to fighting monsters because of Avenger, and she might now be able to choose who's the monster, but when the chips are down, Ais isn't stronger than nor is she beating Ottar with the gap that is between them right now.
I know views are subjective, and in my view from everything I've read, Ais won't beat any level 7, and she won't beat Loki's top 3 and Freya's 3 level 6s. Hedin and Hegni are almost as skilled swordsmen with more magic. Allen's speed is off the charts.
Every one of the big dogs has a broken skill or spell if not more than one. Even some of the lower levels do too. Welf could potentially one-shot a much higher level mage with his spell because it reflects back the power being put in.
They've shown Ais pretty much at her most powerful against Revis. Barely a W. They've shown Bete pretty close to his when he destroyed Valetta after taking tons of damage.
Aside from those two we have not seen Finn fully stretch his limits, nor Gareth nor Riveria. The closest we came with Allen was during Astrea Record which was 5 years ago. We haven't seen Hedin or Hegni cut loose at full power. And we haven't seen much of anything on Ottar.
I doubt we'll see most of them at full power except for the Loki members because of SO.
Since no one has seen Ottar at his most powerful it is completely unfair to compare him not knowing his powers to Ais who we do. Even without knowing what I know I would never have Ais beating Ottar, but now, especially not. He is the strongest, by far. And he proves it, spectacularly. No one in Orario can hold a candle to him. No one.
@@redlinelogbook you specifically said Anakitty tried to go up against Shakti in your video.
As for Tsubaki. She told Welf and Mikoto to keep going and then kept Gareth occupied by herself. And the accounts in SO and Danmachi do vary slightly.
Then I miss spoke in the video and didn't check it in editing. Chloe attack Shakti.
I can not see ais being above alfia
I explained my reasoning in the video.
@redlinelogbook but alfia was stated to be stronger than her level 9. Captain Ais is nothing against her in every way 😅
In mythology sakti is Ganesha mother
Honestly i would've put Bell higher. In so vol 12 he one shot the spirit which was a level 7? Its been a year so correct me if im wrong and he cant normally do this but his destructive capabilities are there
Yes and no. He used Argonaut at full charge. Which is 4 minutes now. But it wasn't fighting back because it was a bomb. If it was attacking Bell when he was charging Bell wouldn't have a chance. No normal enemy would let Bell fully charge.
@@redlinelogbook aggre
@@redlinelogbook On top of that he have his ability of ox slayer that increase his stats against ox monster
That is true. I didn't bring it up because I was ranking him with other adventure. So that skill isn't useful.
@@redlinelogbook Yeah i just mention it because it gave a Boost against the spirit, in normal conditions that ability is useless, there a few ox type monster who are strong and is useless against adventures
First of all I agree that bell in level 4 is on part with at least level 5 but he does have some feats that might put him on the low hand of level 6.
Second, I think the whole suffering he was put through while he was kidnapped was enough to level him up to level 5.
BTW, I haven't read volume 18, it's just common sense
I ranked him below Dix and a couple other level 5. So I agree he was not on the lower end of 6. As for volume 18 I said already I might have to make a upgrade video when I get a translation but until then I'm going with what I have. And what I have is Bell makes out level 4 by the end of volume 17.
Ottar beat aiz i main comun he is level 7 you need at lest 4 level6 to beat him
I explained in the video that she can freely unlock the power of a level 7 with her skill that even surpassed otter. But that was before I read volume 18. I now know otter has a skill that makes him a level 8. So he is stronger now.
L list but still cool
Otter… yeah… not ottar
you know, bell is a leval 5 now
I have not read volume 18. I can't read Japanese and I can't find any fan translation.
Go to the Danmachi wiki.
That doesn't help with ranking because I need to now everyone actual feats and the context of those feats. I need to read volume 18 first before I make any updates.
@@redlinelogbook well i am also waiting for vol 18 translation
DanMachi Light Novel Volume 18/Synopsis if you want to know what happens in the volume just write this on Google it isn't detailed but it can help you to understand how strong thay are
Spoiler alert
ball can clach with otar strongest hit and loki top 3 have leveled up to level 7
I can understand I know from a spoiler
Your the third person to comment this. I know how you feel
Bell is level 5
I have not read volume 18. I can't read Japanese and I can't find any fan translation.
every season corrisponds to bells level so by season 7 he'll be level 7
That be fun.
so much mistakes that I don't even know what to say
Go ahead
bro if you dont have anything nice to. say then leave no one ask you to come
With simple power scaling 🤓 ais with all her stacked buffs avenger so on could only take ateriouses left arm while he was off guard and while on guard was soloing ais to the point she had to pull back with a !single arm this same asterious looks at ottar and says yeah even if i was at my best I wouldn't stand a chance.
No she was winning completely. In the anime Ateriouses hit Ais but in the novel her wind repealed all of his attacks. Ais was cutting him to Pieces. When Ateriouses fight Bell he was at deaths door. That's why a level 3 Bell could take on a level 7 monster. Fin only made Ais pullback because the black flame was consuming her.
@@redlinelogbook It's actually noted that Asterious' blows were tearing at her wind, and single solid blow would end the fight. The only real reason that Ais could hold her own so well is because Airiel was actively pulling her away from his hits, instead of just trying to block it. She probably would have one in the end, all things considered, but it would have been a close fight.
@@nemasisdemarini8339 I agree it would have been a close fight. Ateriouses definitely had a chance.
@@redlinelogbook I dunno bout that... Asterious was getting better but his lack of fighting humans had him at a loss. The list is tough to flesh out due to some of them having unique skills that are great for monsters but will not do much against other humans. Remember, Bell has that ability that gives him a power boost against Bull-Like Creatures I think (however it was stated). So Asterious being wounded was not the only factor in that fight. If you are fighting Minotaurs, you want Bell in that fight.
Bell got the skill against bull monster after the fight with arteriosus when he became a level 4. So Ais cutting him up was the only reason Bell stud a chance. But you are right Bell in the future will be the only one that can beat Arteriosus because he's e still training. Ais even said he will get stronger.