Well done video. I agree Freya isn't evil. She just became desperate. Because Bell Cranel is a one of a kind man. Even Freya herself says that she has never met man as selfish as him and that no one has ever made her feel the way she is now. So it's going to be very interesting once the new chapters come out and we find out how this Great Faction War turns out in the end. As for who Bell ends up with. I have said this before. I don't know why the author made so many girls like Bell. When Bell Cranel X Ais Wallenstein has been the endgame from the beginning. I'm not complaining. Because that's my favourite ship. But honestly it's annoying that he has put so many in there. If it was up to me. I would have just had Ais Wallenstein, Ryuu Lion and Freya/Syr Flova. That way. This would less heart breaks Putting that aside. Things are going get really interesting. Seeing everyone's perspective on the matter. Especially the rest of the Hestia Familia and the Loki Familia. The one thing curious about. While Bell's Familia was under Freya's charm. How did they think the Hestia Familia started and who was their captain? Since Bell is the one who started it and is their captain.
It’s like with Konosuba when it was obvious Megumin became author’s favourite because…. I don’t know, fans liked her I guess? Despite some people wanting for Darkness or even Aqua to unironicaly to win. So it beged the question why there was a competition when everyone knew who would won MC’s heart?
I so agree with the limit idea of yours. Not to get tropey, but, those 3 gals are power incarnate. That is what Bell craves to be the Hero, and that is what should have the influence on his heart. I love Ais, but, Ryu is like my second favorite/maybe tied for first favorite character. I am listening to this video despite being an anime-only. I already had the Syr/Freya thang spoilt for me. I just couldn't avoid interest in that title. I appreciate your comment, dude.
@@kallistikaleid Yeah, and Ryu cares about what Bell wants. Her whole acceptance thing when he said he didn't want to be with Syr said a lot. Also, her turning down Freya when she offered to let her share Bell and have his babies. Ryu is the best for Bell imo. I know Aiz is endgame, but until Bell hits level 5/6 and actually feels he is worthy of being in her space, we really won't see much Bell and Aiz development.
@@christophercorbin9387 Ryuu didn’t accept it right away…..in fact, she actually grabbed him and started screaming at him. She only accepted it when Bell screamed back at her and said he can’t accept Syr because he is already in love with someone else. Ryuu later gets saved by Bells lover Ais and she tries to get into a heated argument with Ais but all Ais asked was “where is Bell” and Ryuu refused to answer her because of her jealousy, how is that accepting of anything? Ais was just asking a simple question because she wanted to save her rabbit. Than Ryuu gives into her jealousy while Ais is confused by the whole thing since she didn’t understand why Ryuu couldn’t tell her where her rabbit was. You can’t say she is so accepting and cares for what he wants when the only thing we got was her jealous of Ais, pissed about him rejecting Syr, and only accepting the Syr part because Bell had to set her straight and make her realize how completely wrong she was. Until I see Ryuu accept Ais x Bell full heartedly and supports it like Haruhime does, we can’t say she supports him or accepts what he wants. So far Haruhime is the only one you can state that about currently. Ryuu isn’t best for Bell because she doesn’t make him happy. It was a major point in why Bell didn’t accept Syr. He said if he accepted Syr, in the end, they would have never been happy and filled with nothing but regrets.
I absolutely agree with your point of view about Freya, she isnt evil, she just broke because she is so lonely and cant find true love. Why i say true love, she is able to charm anyone, like you said if she charms someone this isnt really love, they get „forced“ to „love“ her. Great vids man! Love that content🫶🔥
Won’t happen, the author of Danmachi just want a romance between 2 characters and will probably not do an Harem, because Bell only love Aiz because of his skill so he can’t fall in love with someone else
Not sure if you play the mobile game but there is some extra information you will find interesting. Bell is the reincarnation of Argonaut and Argonaut is the one who amused the gods who turned their back on humanity not only to guide humans again but it led to the current era where the gods have descended from the heavens to live amongst humans. So Bell is a very big deal however as Argonaut he was extremely weak so all he can do is save humanity by playing the role of a fool and inspiring them which is why Asterius is so important as Argonaut was to weak to defeat him personally. That is why the God's have given Bell the chance to be the hero to save humanity directly this time around as a reward for his exploits as Argonaut. Another important fact is that Bell's aunt had the potential to be the strongest adventurer of her era and a member of the Hera familia. It was her spell that defeated one of the great threats the leviathan. Bell has inherited her talents and the name Bell comes from her own personal magic. If it wasn't for the fact she died young due to an incurable illness she could have reached lvl 9 but instead died young as a very powerful lvl 7. Bell isn't a nobody he has great genetics and has inherited the will of Argonaut who was his previous self there is a good reason many women are attracted to him. He is humanity's savior and this time he will doe through his own actions rather than inspiring others. On a final note everyone attacking Freya and defending Hestia for her lack of morality will likely be shocked when the big reveal is made about the monsters which the author of Danmachi has been hinting for a long time now. That will make all the gods really morally bankrupt. Basically there is no such thing as a good God in the world of Danmachi they are all ultimately twisted beings that treat their creations as their playthings and Hestia is no exception. Also completely agree that Bell will never 'kill' Freya and will either go the Ais' route or harem with Argonaut's back story they are the only options that make sense.
Yah I have been reading up a little on the game story, some of it came out in a LN late last year with some extra stuff, so digging into that as well :)
one of the biggest things i read somewhere that clicked things into place is that the harem stuff was added by the advise of the editors to increase the audience and they changed the name from "Familia Myth" to " is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon " this really points out why Bell dose not make the connection that some of his friends that are girls want to become his girlfriend the thing is Freya liked being Syr because the magic that transforms her helps reduce the effects of the passive charm that is partly why Freya forgives Helen/Horn so much
I think her eyes the thing that allow her to see souls as more of a curse than a good thing , she needs something that blocks that like maybe fels could make contacts or glasses that block that soul skill and then I think she could truly find her odr that way
I’m wondering if Bell sorts Freya emotions and hart out, but Freya own actions from the last novels have put a target on her back by the other Gods and EvilList. And thay all go after her and start to remove hear familia and power (KILL her lower level adventurers) leaving Bell having to protect her in secret ( Freya as Syr ) possibly leading to another war game where she gets thrown out the city.
Let us all also remember if not for Freya. Bell might be called something weird by now like everyone okay indicating that bell's into that. Or Loki's play thing.
I think you explained quite well that Freya is suffering from the curse of very beautiful women. There are so many gorgeous women that are not happily married, because they were just loved by a stupid man for their beauty, and not primarily for their character. many of these do not even seem to be aware of the problem. I like the way Omori created Freya having understandable issues in this regard. I wouldn’t mind if Bell finally decides for Freya as she truly is above Ais and the others. There will be no need for Syr anymore.
I actually feel pity for Freya. Her power is more of a curse than a blessing. It corrupts as the power stacks the deck in her favor. Would be difficult to know personal limits when almost all situations are in her favor. In the big picture, the power has no upside. Is Freya's feelings love or a kind of thrill of obtaining what she cannot turn with her power?
Loved the video!!! Freya still best girl by far!!! I believe harem wouldn’t have Ais in it, it goes against her character completely. She is in search of her very OWN hero and that hero will end up being her lover later on. She has also stated that she doesn’t like anyone that plays around with other woman (SO7 SS). We than have the issue of Loki familia and them being most likely offended by Bell thinking he needs more than Ais. Loki familia only cares about Ais and not Bell (for obvious reasons), Bell trying to add Ais to his harem would be like telling Loki familia that Ais isn’t good enough for me so I will need more. It just wouldn’t go down very well at all. Than you have the issue with Bell, he has put so much priority on Ais that it would just create discord in the “harem”. Bell has a skill etched on his that symbolizes his love for Ais Wallenstein (yes, Liaris Freese is based off of “feelings of love”), the other girls wouldn’t feel great knowing Ais has so much priority and love over them. Let’s be real, Bell having equal love distributed between all girls is impossible. Hestia and Ais would consume most of it while the other girls are left with the scraps. The other thing about harem is if Bell went with it…..what was the point of the Freya arc than? He rejected a girl because he knew in the end, they would never be happy and only suffer from it. He basically died 5 to 6 times during his training sessions and was gaslighted throughout the whole process. Yet, he goes through all of that hardship and torture because he loves Ais and didn’t want to stray away from that path but than walks back on that decision in the end and says “JKJK, I’m doing harem now.” Like what? Freya arc would lose its massive importance if Bell just walked back and did harem. Which would upset me greatly since Freya is my favorite girl and her arc is my favorite because I love the struggle and importance behind it. Bell doing harem would suck all of that out of Freya arc and would ruin its importance. Welfs scene with Bell at the end of volume 16 would be deemed so pointless too considering he was the one that told Bell he needs to quit leading these girls on and tell them the truth (Welf is aware of Bells love for Ais). There is just so much significance to this arc that would be wasted on a harem ending. Anyways, sorry for the long rant. I just believe harem isn’t possible anymore after this arc. It would have been possible if Bell dropped Ais after MS14 but he didn’t. He is still pursuing her relentlessly and even turned down someone who is as almost as close to him as Hestia for Ais. Just seems like it would be a weak move by Bell to be like “dang my bad, I was only kidding on the rejection, I love everyone equally😅.”
Yah I have always been on the boat for Bell X Aiz, but if they do any other route harem would be the only other, but unlikely, which was what I was mainly getting at. Because we all know Anime only fans are not going to be happy because the anime mess up Aiz and spent too much time on Hestia fan service.
@@Espiritu_Analysis yeah I get what you mean. I should have said it differently since it sounded like I was disagreeing with you about you wanting harem ending. I agree with you that it can only be Ais x Bell or Bell x harem. The thing I disagree about is Ais being in that harem, it goes against her character entirely and Loki familia would never allow it (not even Riveria who has been in Ais x Bell corner for a long time would allow it). Ais’ character wouldn’t thrive in a harem either. Harem, IMO, happens if Ais dies or they save her mother and she decides to leave with her instead. I still don’t want it to be harem at all because than it feels like the author just spit all over my favorite girls arc and made it completely meaningless and pointless, I will be very upset about it….😅
@@Espiritu_Analysis As a polyamorous guy, I forget often that characters have to choose, usually leaving someone out. I just can't see Mr. Cranel making a harem work. He is too idealistic. Despite my wanting all of those gals to be happy.
i think in the end aiz may stop being an adventurer because of the OEBD being dead. she does not need to be one any more or she may join the hestia familia at the end that way her and bell can date and hestia can still keep bell around the home. i can not see bell or hestia wanting his kids to be in the loki familia
There is one more ending, he picks no one, your assuming that bell makes it to the last novel but it wouldn't surprise me if he dies or chooses to leave the city to find a new adventure but I hope it's not a ending like this.
I feel like those, who try to diminish are character like Freya, to that of an archetype, must be missing out on so damn much of the plot and flavor of the story, to which she is an integral part. By the way, Espiritu, are you planning on covering Handyman Saitou in Another World in any way? Despite it's incredibly boring and generic title, for me at least, it is the proverbial dark horse of the season. I know ep. 2 only just came out, but it's obvious to me just how much love and attention went into the making of this 4-panel adaptation. If one have an eye for the details, they'll immediately notice how it offers a fresh take on many aspects of the genre, not unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's got a lot of appeal and potential.
I generally hate those types of shows, with the purely episodic or gag piece forms, but, today, I started Saitou, and caught myself. I thought "Ah, crap, I forgot. It's these little acts. Maybe I shouldn't..." but, I couldn't turn it off. This week's episode gave a lot. While being a raging yuri-lover, I felt that portion was not so great, but, otherwise, I am feeling that anime. I really want that fing MC to be happy, damn it!!!! I won't accept any alternative reality. Plus, that knight girl deserves to have her face head tight and told that she is gorgeous, inside and out.
in our myths there are goddesses who go thou rituals to restore their virgin status it undoes the effects on their body , my understanding is Hestia is seen as a greater virgin because she has never used one or needed to
Two other options other than harem or Ais: 1) no one, he keeps his innocence 2) he sacrifices himself to finish the dragon. Personally I agree Ais will be (as he was the "damsel" in distress). But I ship Eina. The way she hugs Bell when he returns from the Goliath...
I really hope we get the translations soon yen press be playing way too many games I’ll likely end up buying the Japanese version and use some app that interfaces with my camera and translates the volume if that works
I kinda thought the same way as you on Freya until I read her Familia Chronicles. After that, nope. She is absolutely amoral and narcissistic, which firmly puts her in the evil category to me. Volume 17 just doubled down. First, her manipulation of the elf tribes to completely wipe themselves out so she could put two trophies on her shelf. 2nd, Ali. Ali did not consent and Freya took her anyways. Because she wanted to. Her wants, who cares about anyone else. She and Regulus Corneas are a lot alike. 3rd, she was trying to break Bell's will so she could charm him, thus robbing him of his individuality and probably tarnishing his soul. Again all about what she wants. Who cares if Bell is happy, or even himself? 4th, she was willing to kill Bell's Familia if Hestia acted up. Again no concern for how Bell would feel. This isn't love. It's obsession. 5th, charming the whole city, unconcerned for who it hurts. 6th, her treatment of Anya. Enough said. 7th, her proposal to Ryu. She sounded almost insane there. She is one of my most hated characters in the show. So is Hestia, actually, but for other reasons.
amoral and narcissistic does not make some one evil. Also Freya and Hestia are not the most hated, I feel like ur taking a couple peoples point of views and over blowing it, there is a reason why Hestia is used as a fan service in the anime's because she is beloved by anime only fans, its LN fans that dislike her because of how the anime does her. Aiz Is more disliked in the anime the Hestia, because they see her as boring, due to how the anime brush's over her char.
@Espiritu_Analysis I didn't say most hated by the fans. I personally don't like the two characters. Aside from the true pieces of trash like Dix and Phryne, these two would be at the bottom of my list of characters that I like. I would put Revis above both of them. Aisha provides better fan service than Hestia in my opinion but that really has no bearing on whether I like a character or not. Hestia's obsession is only not as bad as Freya's because Hestia would not commit evil acts to get what she wants. Bell already rejected her and she still hasn't gotten the message. It's to the point it's beyond annoying and she needs to let it go. Her throwing the victory in Freya's face was the epitome of stupid. And while narcissism and amorality may not make a person evil, once they act on it to do evil things to satisfy their narcissism or rationalize their amorality (which is practically going to happen with that combination of traits), they become evil. Unless you're going to justify all of the actions I enumerated that were clearly evil. And with all those actions just in recent times, I highly doubt they are the only evil actions she has done in her time with the people. I'm not saying she can't be redeemed. But she herself needs to recognize what she has actually done and feel genuine remorse and act in good faith to atone. I seriously doubt she can do that. And yes Bell wants to save her. But he does not know what she did to the elves, or Ali, and he probably doesn't even know she threatened his familia. He's not as naive as he once was, and if he knew what she has actually done he might not be nearly as forgiving (he would not have forgiven Jura, and Jura probably has a much lower death count than Freya). I know a lot of people won't agree. Freya must be protected at all costs! But I think I've got more than enough basis to support how I feel about both of them. Oh, I've also heard the argument on Ali that she didn't complain afterwards. That really doesn't matter because she didn't consent (if you replaced Freya with Apollo, people would be up in arms, double standards aren't good). But Freya was definitely taking a teacher's role and Ali was her student. And teachers using their authority to seduce students is also considered a very bad thing, so it's a double whammy against Freya in that situation.
I think the writer likes to put the gods/goddess in this area were they are a law on there own and how they act and do things is very different as they see things very different. Which makes it harder because unless u try and look deeper or too deep u can see how he is trying to make the gods/goddess something that think and feel different and because of that rules that we would put on other humans can't work on them. Which makes it hard to write and leads to some weird story telling EG why Hestia and Freya come off a little cray cray. But please lets not forget our boy Harmes that guy was trying to kill of Bells friends the Xenos just to force him to be the hero he wanted rather then going with Bells wish's which I see far worse, not evil but a massive D move on his part.
@Espiritu_Analysis I don't disagree he writes the gods differently for the most part. I also don't think that gives them carte blanche to do as they please and be excused. Even in the real world, we don't give Zeus a pass for his nonconsensual hookups in the mythology, nor do we look kindly on how they kept messing with humans all the time for amusement. They did however have a lot of stories that at least tried to balance the scales a bit probably so their worshipers wouldn't completely despise them. And aside from Hephaistos, Goibniu, Ganesha, Miach, Take, Ouranos, and Loki (and maybe a few others) I pretty much have a very low opinion of the gods in the show. Luvis and Dormul's gods tricking their own familia members for a bet in volume 8, all the idiot gods wanting the War Game with Apollo, the denatuses. They almost all seem like worthless sacks of dung. Hermes made a bad decision with the Xenos that I do go a bit back and forth on. His motive was not entirely selfish, and it is not clear whether other gods also feel the same way about monsters the people do. He wanted to make Bell into his version of a hero, but he truly wants a hero to save the world and not just to amuse himself. Freya, on the other hand, is just looking for her lover. I view Hermes as the black ops of the gods. He trades in information, he is allowed by Ouranos (I'm guessing but I'm pretty sure I'm right) to lie about his familia's levels. He is obviously doing work for both Ouranos and Zeus. And spies notoriously walk a very gray line. He put Hestia in danger on 18 to test Bell. He then helped stop Freya's charm. He also set the whole plan in motion to bring down Ishtar who was at the least Evilus adjacent if not Evilus in reality. Saving Haruhime may or may not have also been an objective. But that wasn't just for his amusement. That's where I see the biggest difference between him and Freya. And I want to see what he continues to do. Now that Loki has accepted the Xenos he really can't oppose them. Hestia isn't as capricious as the other deities, but she is a bit lazy and very much over-obsessed with Bell. I wouldn't dislike her so much if she would let that go and concentrate on growing her whole familia more. The kidnap story in volume 8 was what pushed her into the negative for me, and then she just wouldn't let it go afterwards. Freya you know how I feel. Loki definitely has a selfish streak and some bad habits, but she is smart as a whip and seems to be truly working to help the people. She even admits she has changed down here from her more notorious self in the heavens. Hephaistos and Goibniu seem to care about smithing and their children at least and not for all the stupid shenanigans. Miach and Take are good souls with flaws but they also don't seem to get into the shenanigans. Ganesha cares about the people and it's pretty evident. Ouranos also cares and is keeping the dungeon at bay. Demeter isn't too bad, a but gossipy and ready to play with the boys a bit, but she loves producing the food for the people. But on the whole the deities are horrible and I would prefer most of them be sent back. Hermes is really the toughest case for me.
Does anyone think that Bell is going to die at the end of the story ? I was thinking that he may sacrifice his life in order to kill the black dragon and subsequently become the greatest hero. So there is no real need for him to choose anyone. PS : I didnt read Sword Oratoria, so if there is info contradicting what I just say please share it
Not a fan of harems but it just being Aiz would be a serious L for everyone. If she had an arch like the others sooner, and had more of a personality, maybe. However Aiz is just an emotionless doll with high stats; those stats which Bell seeks to achive. However given Bell's nature the Aiz ending is more likely, unless their is a blot twist and he dies. That or we get the copout ending where things never progress and its left to the fans to come up with their own ending.......or if you go the SimGame route, as some authors have, create a good ending where each girl actually has their own happy end version
i dont think she bad as well it just what she does like you said so i hope bell can keep her around as well and not send her back. i like her not like Hermes
This is why I hate authors that do this. If they aren't planning on making it a harem why keep making alot of girls fall for bell ? It will just end up pissing fans off in the end because fans will get attached to different girls and then when the author decides to have bell end up with one the fans of the others will riot. The best way would be just to end it in a harem to not piss anyone off. Not to mention Zeus literally wanted bell to hook up with ladies. He used plural meaning he wanted bell to become a ladies man and a hero. Some girls in the story also don't mind a harem with bell like Aisha since amazons are willing to share a man with other women if they are strong enough as seen in the Loki familia.
Is Loki even a woman ??? She keeps teasing Hestia as a virgin goddess does that mean everyone else have already experienced sex before ??? & I'm very curious to know if Freya a virgin goddess or not !!!! I mean if Freya feel that her powers affect other to be attracted towards her then does that mean she hasn't had sex before ???? Is she a virgin goddess like Hestia as well ??? I don't think that is the case though 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@TK-gq3eb I am polyamorous, and...I generally hate harem animes. The ridiculous, painful, monotonous, see-through, deceptive, annoying tropes that end up unavoidable nag me to drop most of those kind of shows. Now, there are a couple I think I've enjoyed, and, I am 1000% happy with the direction of Isekai Maou and Arifureta. If two people love you, love two people. Just....don't act like touching another person is illegal, or that commitment is a fatal disease.
@@TK-gq3eb I don’t know if this show is a harem but if it is I think it should go the harem route, I don’t understand why harem anime’s call themselves harem’s but only focus on the obvious main girl and is going to get with the MC when the anime could’ve easily been the romantic anime genre and just focus on those two lead characters. If a an anime is going to be a harem it should go the harem route otherwise it’s a waste of time watching and knowing the other characters as by the end they didn’t matter anyway which is why Highschool DxD, is probably one of the best harem anime series out there as it goes the harem route because it stays true to it’s genre so it’s not your watching a romantic anime between two characters disguised as a harem.
i think Bell will go the harem route but not until after he proves his worth to Ais. but I disagree with your assessment of Freya continuing to divide her time between herself and Syr, i think after he wins, he will want her to return the name Syr and memories and all that back to Horn and he will want to work with Freya and be a kind of confidant for her.
I disagree a little with you and don't see Freya being all that malevolent. She wants a hero, so she's helping Belle to become a hero by giving him stumbling blocks to overcome on his way. This is a benefit to Belle in the long run. I do agree with you that Freya isn't going anywhere. She'll finagle a way to stay in the series because she's such a good character.
"I disagree a little with you and don't see Freya being all that malevolent." Not sure how u got that from what I said, I legit get attacked from people saying that I should say that about her when I don't.
I agree freya is broken,. As far as i am concerned while a harem would be great there is only one girl and that ryu. Aiz would be a good adventure companion, but not a good wife.
since the anime is called "is it wrong to pick up girls in the dungeon" i believe that bell will have a harem and this anime will slowly but surely go in a harem route for the mc and the women who will fall in love are hestia, ais, freya, lili, eina, aisha, haruhime and as well as ryuu. well that's what i believe so its not 100% and i hope it will go in a harem route and there will be no "pick one girl and the rest will be rejected" kind of situation. just purely harem.
@@elitebeachgaming we cant say for sure though and besides, bell still doesn't know that syr and freya are one and bell only focuses on how to get stronger and also remember what his grandpa said right at the beginning, before bell went to orario
@@dontblinkoryouwillmissme and yes we can be sure bells literally just rejected one of the few who could have made him change his mind about aiz , also bell reaffirmed his feelings for aiz in volume 17
There's a theory that Bell will inherit Marie's abilities similar to that of Welf & Ais' background. He has Xenos blood as we've seen from the light novel & anime recently when his arm needed to be reattached. (Also I ordered the special edition of light novel 18 because yen won't have it available for a year or two most likely. I'll find a scan/camera app to translate each page). Also instead of the harem route she'll have his soul when he eventually dies while Hestia & Loki would have dibs on his offspring (should the children want to be adventures.)
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Well done video. I agree Freya isn't evil. She just became desperate. Because Bell Cranel is a one of a kind man. Even Freya herself says that she has never met man as selfish as him and that no one has ever made her feel the way she is now.
So it's going to be very interesting once the new chapters come out and we find out how this Great Faction War turns out in the end. As for who Bell ends up with.
I have said this before. I don't know why the author made so many girls like Bell. When Bell Cranel X Ais Wallenstein has been the endgame from the beginning. I'm not complaining. Because that's my favourite ship.
But honestly it's annoying that he has put so many in there. If it was up to me. I would have just had Ais Wallenstein, Ryuu Lion and Freya/Syr Flova. That way. This would less heart breaks
Putting that aside. Things are going get really interesting. Seeing everyone's perspective on the matter. Especially the rest of the Hestia Familia and the Loki Familia.
The one thing curious about. While Bell's Familia was under Freya's charm. How did they think the Hestia Familia started and who was their captain? Since Bell is the one who started it and is their captain.
Yep.
It’s like with Konosuba when it was obvious Megumin became author’s favourite because…. I don’t know, fans liked her I guess? Despite some people wanting for Darkness or even Aqua to unironicaly to win.
So it beged the question why there was a competition when everyone knew who would won MC’s heart?
I so agree with the limit idea of yours. Not to get tropey, but, those 3 gals are power incarnate. That is what Bell craves to be the Hero, and that is what should have the influence on his heart. I love Ais, but, Ryu is like my second favorite/maybe tied for first favorite character. I am listening to this video despite being an anime-only. I already had the Syr/Freya thang spoilt for me. I just couldn't avoid interest in that title.
I appreciate your comment, dude.
@@kallistikaleid Yeah, and Ryu cares about what Bell wants. Her whole acceptance thing when he said he didn't want to be with Syr said a lot. Also, her turning down Freya when she offered to let her share Bell and have his babies. Ryu is the best for Bell imo. I know Aiz is endgame, but until Bell hits level 5/6 and actually feels he is worthy of being in her space, we really won't see much Bell and Aiz development.
@@christophercorbin9387 Ryuu didn’t accept it right away…..in fact, she actually grabbed him and started screaming at him. She only accepted it when Bell screamed back at her and said he can’t accept Syr because he is already in love with someone else. Ryuu later gets saved by Bells lover Ais and she tries to get into a heated argument with Ais but all Ais asked was “where is Bell” and Ryuu refused to answer her because of her jealousy, how is that accepting of anything? Ais was just asking a simple question because she wanted to save her rabbit. Than Ryuu gives into her jealousy while Ais is confused by the whole thing since she didn’t understand why Ryuu couldn’t tell her where her rabbit was. You can’t say she is so accepting and cares for what he wants when the only thing we got was her jealous of Ais, pissed about him rejecting Syr, and only accepting the Syr part because Bell had to set her straight and make her realize how completely wrong she was. Until I see Ryuu accept Ais x Bell full heartedly and supports it like Haruhime does, we can’t say she supports him or accepts what he wants. So far Haruhime is the only one you can state that about currently.
Ryuu isn’t best for Bell because she doesn’t make him happy. It was a major point in why Bell didn’t accept Syr. He said if he accepted Syr, in the end, they would have never been happy and filled with nothing but regrets.
while Freya herself was broken, that doesn't excuse her actions in the least
Never said it did, I say that in the video it does not...
Great video about Freya. You're not wrong there about everyone won't be happy with any route taken for Bell.
I absolutely agree with your point of view about Freya, she isnt evil, she just broke because she is so lonely and cant find true love. Why i say true love, she is able to charm anyone, like you said if she charms someone this isnt really love, they get „forced“ to „love“ her. Great vids man! Love that content🫶🔥
This makes me want a harem ending even more.
Won’t happen, the author of Danmachi just want a romance between 2 characters and will probably not do an Harem, because Bell only love Aiz because of his skill so he can’t fall in love with someone else
@@ademt2558 [and will *probably* not do]
There's a small chance. Probably isn't definitely.
Don't forget, Bells' mother died of a terminal disease, who is to say he inherited that disease and once its known, a harem may be more realistic.
@@jimcork6296 It manifests as a skill as soon as they receive a falna, as they are born with it, so probably not.
Not sure if you play the mobile game but there is some extra information you will find interesting. Bell is the reincarnation of Argonaut and Argonaut is the one who amused the gods who turned their back on humanity not only to guide humans again but it led to the current era where the gods have descended from the heavens to live amongst humans. So Bell is a very big deal however as Argonaut he was extremely weak so all he can do is save humanity by playing the role of a fool and inspiring them which is why Asterius is so important as Argonaut was to weak to defeat him personally. That is why the God's have given Bell the chance to be the hero to save humanity directly this time around as a reward for his exploits as Argonaut.
Another important fact is that Bell's aunt had the potential to be the strongest adventurer of her era and a member of the Hera familia. It was her spell that defeated one of the great threats the leviathan. Bell has inherited her talents and the name Bell comes from her own personal magic. If it wasn't for the fact she died young due to an incurable illness she could have reached lvl 9 but instead died young as a very powerful lvl 7.
Bell isn't a nobody he has great genetics and has inherited the will of Argonaut who was his previous self there is a good reason many women are attracted to him. He is humanity's savior and this time he will doe through his own actions rather than inspiring others.
On a final note everyone attacking Freya and defending Hestia for her lack of morality will likely be shocked when the big reveal is made about the monsters which the author of Danmachi has been hinting for a long time now. That will make all the gods really morally bankrupt. Basically there is no such thing as a good God in the world of Danmachi they are all ultimately twisted beings that treat their creations as their playthings and Hestia is no exception. Also completely agree that Bell will never 'kill' Freya and will either go the Ais' route or harem with Argonaut's back story they are the only options that make sense.
Yah I have been reading up a little on the game story, some of it came out in a LN late last year with some extra stuff, so digging into that as well :)
Where to get this info on this big reveal?
one of the biggest things i read somewhere that clicked things into place is that the harem stuff was added by the advise of the editors to increase the audience and they changed the name from "Familia Myth" to " is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon " this really points out why Bell dose not make the connection that some of his friends that are girls want to become his girlfriend
the thing is Freya liked being Syr because the magic that transforms her helps reduce the effects of the passive charm that is partly why Freya forgives Helen/Horn so much
Reading that prologue literaly kills me with excitement, and with yenn press bullshit it could be a year before translation
ur telling me, Yen press takes way too long on these things!
@@Espiritu_Analysis that's why I'm looking for the fan's translation in the *familia archive* discord, those guys will translate within 2 months
Freya
I think her eyes the thing that allow her to see souls as more of a curse than a good thing , she needs something that blocks that like maybe fels could make contacts or glasses that block that soul skill and then I think she could truly find her odr that way
I’m wondering if Bell sorts Freya emotions and hart out, but Freya own actions from the last novels have put a target on her back by the other Gods and EvilList. And thay all go after her and start to remove hear familia and power (KILL her lower level adventurers) leaving Bell having to protect her in secret ( Freya as Syr ) possibly leading to another war game where she gets thrown out the city.
Your content is worth getting spoiled with. I am an anime-only, yet, I cannot deny my need to consume your videos and commentary.
No ragerts.
Let us all also remember if not for Freya. Bell might be called something weird by now like everyone okay indicating that bell's into that. Or Loki's play thing.
I think you explained quite well that Freya is suffering from the curse of very beautiful women. There are so many gorgeous women that are not happily married, because they were just loved by a stupid man for their beauty, and not primarily for their character. many of these do not even seem to be aware of the problem. I like the way Omori created Freya having understandable issues in this regard. I wouldn’t mind if Bell finally decides for Freya as she truly is above Ais and the others. There will be no need for Syr anymore.
I actually feel pity for Freya. Her power is more of a curse than a blessing. It corrupts as the power stacks the deck in her favor. Would be difficult to know personal limits when almost all situations are in her favor. In the big picture, the power has no upside. Is Freya's feelings love or a kind of thrill of obtaining what she cannot turn with her power?
Loved the video!!! Freya still best girl by far!!!
I believe harem wouldn’t have Ais in it, it goes against her character completely. She is in search of her very OWN hero and that hero will end up being her lover later on. She has also stated that she doesn’t like anyone that plays around with other woman (SO7 SS). We than have the issue of Loki familia and them being most likely offended by Bell thinking he needs more than Ais. Loki familia only cares about Ais and not Bell (for obvious reasons), Bell trying to add Ais to his harem would be like telling Loki familia that Ais isn’t good enough for me so I will need more. It just wouldn’t go down very well at all.
Than you have the issue with Bell, he has put so much priority on Ais that it would just create discord in the “harem”. Bell has a skill etched on his that symbolizes his love for Ais Wallenstein (yes, Liaris Freese is based off of “feelings of love”), the other girls wouldn’t feel great knowing Ais has so much priority and love over them. Let’s be real, Bell having equal love distributed between all girls is impossible. Hestia and Ais would consume most of it while the other girls are left with the scraps.
The other thing about harem is if Bell went with it…..what was the point of the Freya arc than? He rejected a girl because he knew in the end, they would never be happy and only suffer from it. He basically died 5 to 6 times during his training sessions and was gaslighted throughout the whole process. Yet, he goes through all of that hardship and torture because he loves Ais and didn’t want to stray away from that path but than walks back on that decision in the end and says “JKJK, I’m doing harem now.” Like what? Freya arc would lose its massive importance if Bell just walked back and did harem. Which would upset me greatly since Freya is my favorite girl and her arc is my favorite because I love the struggle and importance behind it. Bell doing harem would suck all of that out of Freya arc and would ruin its importance.
Welfs scene with Bell at the end of volume 16 would be deemed so pointless too considering he was the one that told Bell he needs to quit leading these girls on and tell them the truth (Welf is aware of Bells love for Ais). There is just so much significance to this arc that would be wasted on a harem ending.
Anyways, sorry for the long rant. I just believe harem isn’t possible anymore after this arc. It would have been possible if Bell dropped Ais after MS14 but he didn’t. He is still pursuing her relentlessly and even turned down someone who is as almost as close to him as Hestia for Ais. Just seems like it would be a weak move by Bell to be like “dang my bad, I was only kidding on the rejection, I love everyone equally😅.”
Yah I have always been on the boat for Bell X Aiz, but if they do any other route harem would be the only other, but unlikely, which was what I was mainly getting at. Because we all know Anime only fans are not going to be happy because the anime mess up Aiz and spent too much time on Hestia fan service.
@@Espiritu_Analysis yeah I get what you mean. I should have said it differently since it sounded like I was disagreeing with you about you wanting harem ending. I agree with you that it can only be Ais x Bell or Bell x harem. The thing I disagree about is Ais being in that harem, it goes against her character entirely and Loki familia would never allow it (not even Riveria who has been in Ais x Bell corner for a long time would allow it). Ais’ character wouldn’t thrive in a harem either. Harem, IMO, happens if Ais dies or they save her mother and she decides to leave with her instead.
I still don’t want it to be harem at all because than it feels like the author just spit all over my favorite girls arc and made it completely meaningless and pointless, I will be very upset about it….😅
I think I'm ok with Bell x harem just because it will make the anime only's happy because they will whine when it ends with Bell x Aiz haha
@@Espiritu_Analysis As a polyamorous guy, I forget often that characters have to choose, usually leaving someone out. I just can't see Mr. Cranel making a harem work. He is too idealistic. Despite my wanting all of those gals to be happy.
I think bell need protect Freya from old Norse god
Does she automatically charm everyone when she's in her alter ego?
No, Syr doesn't charm people immediately.
Love this anime. Lot of potential for cool story lines going forward
Ottarl has actually already spent time training Ais in Sword Oratoria.
Seeeeee......I just know I should commit to SO. I am a dumbass for thinking it wouldn't be absolutely great.
Thanks.
Dude your awesome thanks for the video
Never reqllu got the vibe bell was in love with aise. I'm in the bell Ryu boat after s4
i think in the end aiz may stop being an adventurer because of the OEBD being dead. she does not need to be one any more or she may join the hestia familia at the end that way her and bell can date and hestia can still keep bell around the home. i can not see bell or hestia wanting his kids to be in the loki familia
There is one more ending, he picks no one, your assuming that bell makes it to the last novel but it wouldn't surprise me if he dies or chooses to leave the city to find a new adventure but I hope it's not a ending like this.
if do not see bell leaving the city because of the promises he as made to Hestia and syr
I feel like those, who try to diminish are character like Freya, to that of an archetype, must be missing out on so damn much of the plot and flavor of the story, to which she is an integral part.
By the way, Espiritu, are you planning on covering Handyman Saitou in Another World in any way?
Despite it's incredibly boring and generic title, for me at least, it is the proverbial dark horse of the season. I know ep. 2 only just came out, but it's obvious to me just how much love and attention went into the making of this 4-panel adaptation. If one have an eye for the details, they'll immediately notice how it offers a fresh take on many aspects of the genre, not unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's got a lot of appeal and potential.
I generally hate those types of shows, with the purely episodic or gag piece forms, but, today, I started Saitou, and caught myself. I thought "Ah, crap, I forgot. It's these little acts. Maybe I shouldn't..." but, I couldn't turn it off. This week's episode gave a lot. While being a raging yuri-lover, I felt that portion was not so great, but, otherwise, I am feeling that anime. I really want that fing MC to be happy, damn it!!!! I won't accept any alternative reality. Plus, that knight girl deserves to have her face head tight and told that she is gorgeous, inside and out.
I think he will be abstinent for the series maybe get with Ais in the end
2:20 - There’s more than 3! There are just 3 main ones. Artemis, Hestia & Athena, but Astraea is another one.
Yes but only 3 can fight her charm the others can't, this is in volume 18 Prologue,
@@Espiritu_Analysis My mistake. I thought all virgin goddesses were immune.
Nope only the 3 from Olympus, Hestia been one of them!
@@Espiritu_Analysis Astraea is from Olympus. She just isn’t an Olympian, like Artemis and Athena.
in our myths there are goddesses who go thou rituals to restore their virgin status it undoes the effects on their body , my understanding is Hestia is seen as a greater virgin because she has never used one or needed to
Does anyone know ware to find fan translation of LN 18. And Astraea Record LN. I look everywhere online and can't find anything.
After this war is over, we're getting married. When I read that chapter title I fucking died! Cannot wait for the English release.
Two other options other than harem or Ais: 1) no one, he keeps his innocence 2) he sacrifices himself to finish the dragon.
Personally I agree Ais will be (as he was the "damsel" in distress). But I ship Eina. The way she hugs Bell when he returns from the Goliath...
I really hope we get the translations soon yen press be playing way too many games
I’ll likely end up buying the Japanese version and use some app that interfaces with my camera and translates the volume if that works
Freya just seems desperate for love after all those years (idk how long she has lived, but i imagine its alot)
I'm guessing right after the dungeon the real adventure begins plus it q good chance to see bell decedent
I think Aise is just someone bell looks up to and not really a love option
As a Greek MF I hope he follows the tradition and go for the harem
Bell tunrning bad on harem at the end would be .....
I kinda thought the same way as you on Freya until I read her Familia Chronicles. After that, nope. She is absolutely amoral and narcissistic, which firmly puts her in the evil category to me. Volume 17 just doubled down.
First, her manipulation of the elf tribes to completely wipe themselves out so she could put two trophies on her shelf.
2nd, Ali. Ali did not consent and Freya took her anyways. Because she wanted to. Her wants, who cares about anyone else. She and Regulus Corneas are a lot alike.
3rd, she was trying to break Bell's will so she could charm him, thus robbing him of his individuality and probably tarnishing his soul. Again all about what she wants. Who cares if Bell is happy, or even himself?
4th, she was willing to kill Bell's Familia if Hestia acted up. Again no concern for how Bell would feel. This isn't love. It's obsession.
5th, charming the whole city, unconcerned for who it hurts.
6th, her treatment of Anya. Enough said.
7th, her proposal to Ryu. She sounded almost insane there.
She is one of my most hated characters in the show. So is Hestia, actually, but for other reasons.
amoral and narcissistic does not make some one evil. Also Freya and Hestia are not the most hated, I feel like ur taking a couple peoples point of views and over blowing it, there is a reason why Hestia is used as a fan service in the anime's because she is beloved by anime only fans, its LN fans that dislike her because of how the anime does her.
Aiz Is more disliked in the anime the Hestia, because they see her as boring, due to how the anime brush's over her char.
@Espiritu_Analysis I didn't say most hated by the fans. I personally don't like the two characters. Aside from the true pieces of trash like Dix and Phryne, these two would be at the bottom of my list of characters that I like. I would put Revis above both of them. Aisha provides better fan service than Hestia in my opinion but that really has no bearing on whether I like a character or not. Hestia's obsession is only not as bad as Freya's because Hestia would not commit evil acts to get what she wants. Bell already rejected her and she still hasn't gotten the message. It's to the point it's beyond annoying and she needs to let it go. Her throwing the victory in Freya's face was the epitome of stupid.
And while narcissism and amorality may not make a person evil, once they act on it to do evil things to satisfy their narcissism or rationalize their amorality (which is practically going to happen with that combination of traits), they become evil. Unless you're going to justify all of the actions I enumerated that were clearly evil. And with all those actions just in recent times, I highly doubt they are the only evil actions she has done in her time with the people.
I'm not saying she can't be redeemed. But she herself needs to recognize what she has actually done and feel genuine remorse and act in good faith to atone. I seriously doubt she can do that.
And yes Bell wants to save her. But he does not know what she did to the elves, or Ali, and he probably doesn't even know she threatened his familia. He's not as naive as he once was, and if he knew what she has actually done he might not be nearly as forgiving (he would not have forgiven Jura, and Jura probably has a much lower death count than Freya).
I know a lot of people won't agree. Freya must be protected at all costs! But I think I've got more than enough basis to support how I feel about both of them.
Oh, I've also heard the argument on Ali that she didn't complain afterwards. That really doesn't matter because she didn't consent (if you replaced Freya with Apollo, people would be up in arms, double standards aren't good). But Freya was definitely taking a teacher's role and Ali was her student. And teachers using their authority to seduce students is also considered a very bad thing, so it's a double whammy against Freya in that situation.
I think the writer likes to put the gods/goddess in this area were they are a law on there own and how they act and do things is very different as they see things very different. Which makes it harder because unless u try and look deeper or too deep u can see how he is trying to make the gods/goddess something that think and feel different and because of that rules that we would put on other humans can't work on them. Which makes it hard to write and leads to some weird story telling EG why Hestia and Freya come off a little cray cray. But please lets not forget our boy Harmes that guy was trying to kill of Bells friends the Xenos just to force him to be the hero he wanted rather then going with Bells wish's which I see far worse, not evil but a massive D move on his part.
@Espiritu_Analysis I don't disagree he writes the gods differently for the most part. I also don't think that gives them carte blanche to do as they please and be excused. Even in the real world, we don't give Zeus a pass for his nonconsensual hookups in the mythology, nor do we look kindly on how they kept messing with humans all the time for amusement. They did however have a lot of stories that at least tried to balance the scales a bit probably so their worshipers wouldn't completely despise them.
And aside from Hephaistos, Goibniu, Ganesha, Miach, Take, Ouranos, and Loki (and maybe a few others) I pretty much have a very low opinion of the gods in the show. Luvis and Dormul's gods tricking their own familia members for a bet in volume 8, all the idiot gods wanting the War Game with Apollo, the denatuses. They almost all seem like worthless sacks of dung.
Hermes made a bad decision with the Xenos that I do go a bit back and forth on. His motive was not entirely selfish, and it is not clear whether other gods also feel the same way about monsters the people do.
He wanted to make Bell into his version of a hero, but he truly wants a hero to save the world and not just to amuse himself. Freya, on the other hand, is just looking for her lover.
I view Hermes as the black ops of the gods. He trades in information, he is allowed by Ouranos (I'm guessing but I'm pretty sure I'm right) to lie about his familia's levels. He is obviously doing work for both Ouranos and Zeus. And spies notoriously walk a very gray line. He put Hestia in danger on 18 to test Bell. He then helped stop Freya's charm. He also set the whole plan in motion to bring down Ishtar who was at the least Evilus adjacent if not Evilus in reality. Saving Haruhime may or may not have also been an objective. But that wasn't just for his amusement. That's where I see the biggest difference between him and Freya. And I want to see what he continues to do. Now that Loki has accepted the Xenos he really can't oppose them.
Hestia isn't as capricious as the other deities, but she is a bit lazy and very much over-obsessed with Bell. I wouldn't dislike her so much if she would let that go and concentrate on growing her whole familia more. The kidnap story in volume 8 was what pushed her into the negative for me, and then she just wouldn't let it go afterwards.
Freya you know how I feel.
Loki definitely has a selfish streak and some bad habits, but she is smart as a whip and seems to be truly working to help the people. She even admits she has changed down here from her more notorious self in the heavens.
Hephaistos and Goibniu seem to care about smithing and their children at least and not for all the stupid shenanigans.
Miach and Take are good souls with flaws but they also don't seem to get into the shenanigans.
Ganesha cares about the people and it's pretty evident.
Ouranos also cares and is keeping the dungeon at bay.
Demeter isn't too bad, a but gossipy and ready to play with the boys a bit, but she loves producing the food for the people.
But on the whole the deities are horrible and I would prefer most of them be sent back. Hermes is really the toughest case for me.
Can’t wait
Bell and Ais is a guarantee but I’m still rooting for Ryu. Maybe he can clone himself or something
Does anyone think that Bell is going to die at the end of the story ? I was thinking that he may sacrifice his life in order to kill the black dragon and subsequently become the greatest hero. So there is no real need for him to choose anyone.
PS : I didnt read Sword Oratoria, so if there is info contradicting what I just say please share it
Where did you read it?
Not a fan of harems but it just being Aiz would be a serious L for everyone. If she had an arch like the others sooner, and had more of a personality, maybe.
However Aiz is just an emotionless doll with high stats; those stats which Bell seeks to achive. However given Bell's nature the Aiz ending is more likely, unless their is a blot twist and he dies. That or we get the copout ending where things never progress and its left to the fans to come up with their own ending.......or if you go the SimGame route, as some authors have, create a good ending where each girl actually has their own happy end version
Interesting
i dont think she bad as well it just what she does like you said so i hope bell can keep her around as well and not send her back. i like her not like Hermes
morning bud
Morning!
@@Espiritu_Analysis frieya is still lovely to me what other stuff you do?
Content wise? DanMachi/Jobless-MT/Overlord/Shield Hero/Eminemce in Shadow and other minor stuff.
This is why I hate authors that do this. If they aren't planning on making it a harem why keep making alot of girls fall for bell ?
It will just end up pissing fans off in the end because fans will get attached to different girls and then when the author decides to have bell end up with one the fans of the others will riot. The best way would be just to end it in a harem to not piss anyone off. Not to mention Zeus literally wanted bell to hook up with ladies. He used plural meaning he wanted bell to become a ladies man and a hero. Some girls in the story also don't mind a harem with bell like Aisha since amazons are willing to share a man with other women if they are strong enough as seen in the Loki familia.
Is Loki even a woman ??? She keeps teasing Hestia as a virgin goddess does that mean everyone else have already experienced sex before ??? & I'm very curious to know if Freya a virgin goddess or not !!!! I mean if Freya feel that her powers affect other to be attracted towards her then does that mean she hasn't had sex before ???? Is she a virgin goddess like Hestia as well ??? I don't think that is the case though 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I really hope he does the harem route that will be a great ending for the story
No it will be Ais ending. Ais don't want a harem.
Nah harem endings are basic bullshit when you don’t know how to write romance
@@TK-gq3eb I am polyamorous, and...I generally hate harem animes. The ridiculous, painful, monotonous, see-through, deceptive, annoying tropes that end up unavoidable nag me to drop most of those kind of shows. Now, there are a couple I think I've enjoyed, and, I am 1000% happy with the direction of Isekai Maou and Arifureta. If two people love you, love two people. Just....don't act like touching another person is illegal, or that commitment is a fatal disease.
@@TK-gq3eb I don’t know if this show is a harem but if it is I think it should go the harem route, I don’t understand why harem anime’s call themselves harem’s but only focus on the obvious main girl and is going to get with the MC when the anime could’ve easily been the romantic anime genre and just focus on those two lead characters.
If a an anime is going to be a harem it should go the harem route otherwise it’s a waste of time watching and knowing the other characters as by the end they didn’t matter anyway which is why Highschool DxD, is probably one of the best harem anime series out there as it goes the harem route because it stays true to it’s genre so it’s not your watching a romantic anime between two characters disguised as a harem.
i think Bell will go the harem route but not until after he proves his worth to Ais. but I disagree with your assessment of Freya continuing to divide her time between herself and Syr, i think after he wins, he will want her to return the name Syr and memories and all that back to Horn and he will want to work with Freya and be a kind of confidant for her.
I disagree a little with you and don't see Freya being all that malevolent. She wants a hero, so she's helping Belle to become a hero by giving him stumbling blocks to overcome on his way. This is a benefit to Belle in the long run. I do agree with you that Freya isn't going anywhere. She'll finagle a way to stay in the series because she's such a good character.
"I disagree a little with you and don't see Freya being all that malevolent." Not sure how u got that from what I said, I legit get attacked from people saying that I should say that about her when I don't.
@@Espiritu_Analysis No problem, I may have misunderstood. Anyway, I do enjoy your analysis.
i think it going to be a 1 girl not a harem. but if a harem will it include i dont know how to spell them xeniours as well
Freya is a broken character.
I agree freya is broken,. As far as i am concerned while a harem would be great there is only one girl and that ryu. Aiz would be a good adventure companion, but not a good wife.
U know that bell is 16 and Ryu is almost 30☠?
@ammrofaisal9539 21, but yeah, I see what you mean.
since the anime is called "is it wrong to pick up girls in the dungeon" i believe that bell will have a harem and this anime will slowly but surely go in a harem route for the mc and the women who will fall in love are hestia, ais, freya, lili, eina, aisha, haruhime and as well as ryuu. well that's what i believe so its not 100% and i hope it will go in a harem route and there will be no "pick one girl and the rest will be rejected" kind of situation. just purely harem.
I don't particularly like harem endings. Though some shows poked fun at what life would actually be like with a dozen girls in one house...
No it wouldn't make sense to bells already rejected syr the rest will be aswell
@@elitebeachgaming we cant say for sure though and besides, bell still doesn't know that syr and freya are one and bell only focuses on how to get stronger and also remember what his grandpa said right at the beginning, before bell went to orario
@@dontblinkoryouwillmissme bell does know that he literally said in volume 17 that syr and Freya are the same person
@@dontblinkoryouwillmissme and yes we can be sure bells literally just rejected one of the few who could have made him change his mind about aiz , also bell reaffirmed his feelings for aiz in volume 17
Ais Solo would be best. I hate harem ends.
There's a theory that Bell will inherit Marie's abilities similar to that of Welf & Ais' background. He has Xenos blood as we've seen from the light novel & anime recently when his arm needed to be reattached. (Also I ordered the special edition of light novel 18 because yen won't have it available for a year or two most likely. I'll find a scan/camera app to translate each page). Also instead of the harem route she'll have his soul when he eventually dies while Hestia & Loki would have dibs on his offspring (should the children want to be adventures.)