'Lies with Hamas': Douglas Murray blames terror group for deaths of Palestinian children
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2023
- Author Douglas Murray claims the responsibility for the deaths of Palestinian children “lies on Hamas” after the terror organisation led the region into a war with Israel.
The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry claimed at least 20,000 people have been killed in the Gaza Strip since Israel launched its offensive, which was in response to the Hamas attack which killed about 1,200 Israelis.
Mr Murray clashed with Young Turks founder and host Cenk Uygur over the proportionality of Israel’s offensive in Gaza.
“Hamas showed what they do, what they want to do. It showed it on October the 7th and its leadership, as I'm sure you very well know, said that they would like to repeat that again and again until they have got rid of every Jew,” Mr Murray said.
“I would trust Hamas's word on that rather than your interpretation of what you think they mean when they say that and your generous interpretation of what you think that means.”
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Hamas is responsible of all civilians in Gaza… they are the only one should have though of putting the citizens under the tunnels ! Where did they build shelters?
Are U kidding me you delusional supporter of genocide
It's a sad joke
Israel 🇮🇱🙏
Who can listen to Cenk more than a minute? He is vomiting lies.
Its their true nature when linking with their belief system.
Bravo Douglas Murray!! spot on...
Douglas certainly riled him when he stated the reason other countries don't want them. The truth hurts.
Uygur is seriously uninformed.
Not to mention physically repulsive.
So you prefer the Muslim hater who reeks of arrogance pomposity , who enjoys to see Palestinian children being slaughtered. Shame on you.
@@credenza1Its people like you who’s repulsive.
Go watch the full clip bigot
uninformed about? Everything he said is True and even With video evidence of what he is talking about.. Witch is Children being pulled out of rubble Real question is how smooth is your 🧠 They even shot 3 of their own hostages.. Also killed their own IDF troops in a heli attack confirmed by the IDF on the accident and yet your hear clapping like a seal thinking your the informed one thinking everything is going as planed
Wait... Is this really happening? Did Cenk really think he could take on Douglas?! Hold up.... I need some popcorn
Amen
Douglas is zionist dunk slave.. he will do anything for his master
The Douglas the pompous arrogant know it all . He’s sheer evil
Not sure about that there was a section sky news cut out ..
😂😂😂
Blame lies with the people who voted hamas in. End of story
The same blame of the cultured Germans who voted for Hitler and joined the Nazi movement and Nazi youth camps
So true!
Israel helped fund Hamas into power as they were the opposition to the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat.
@@stargazer4925 They respected what Palestinians chose on elections, it's not like Israelis elected Hamas.
Before October the seventh Israel had peace with Fatah in the West bank, the main conflict before October the seventh was between Fatah in the West bank and Hamas in Gaza, they were enemies.
They were enemies since the elections in 2006.
Hamas killed some members of Fatah
Ah.... Islamic culture of peace is so heartwarming..... 🙄
@MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy Hamas was voted in for a term that ended over a decade ago n less than a quarter of it's population today did so. But in march 2019 Netanyahu stated "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering and transferring money to Hamas... This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank ". However, it's apparently the whole of Gaza that are responsible for not just Hamas' actions but Israel's??
The point is civilians and Hamas are intertwined ...God bless Israel ..I stand for Jews and Christians worldwide...
I saw civilians giving up their arms and non of them had military uniforms
@@urbanart7325Hamas disguise them self as a civilian.
I knew it. It's a tribal stance. It has nothing to do with right and wrong. Israel is a demonic state that was built by christian zionist who are awaiting the armageddon. They have been oppressing a people they were once living with side by for over 70 years now. The carpet bombing and starving of unarmed people is indefensible.
@@urbanart7325 hamas don't wear a Uniform 😂
Evil terrorists never do !!!
Harder to hide amongst the civilians if had a Uniform on.
That is a problem with all these “jihadist” groups is that they think the Geneva conventions are un-Islamic nonsense and the lines between civilian and soldier are blurred.
Cenk is just talking nonsense.
It takes Douglas Murray to clarify the distraction and gaslighting by the activists. And the comment that "they don't care about Palestinians, they just care about hating Jews." is spot on.
It's very clear this is about hating Jews. In Eastern Europe where there aren't so much Muslims, they don't have this pro Palestinian protests, their citizens aren't bullied by this orcs and goblins on the streets
@@MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy Exactly. The Muslims bring all their hatred with them and expect us to take sides (or else).
So, international laws n Israel's own rules of war are just about hating jews??
King Hussein just loved the Palestinians to death 25,000 to be exact. General Zia aided in their destruction yet SILENCE from the Muslim community.
Rohyinga Muslims ( silence
Uhygur Muslims ( silence
Syrian Muslims ( silence
And don't even mention all the Jihadist murders of Africas population.
No it isn't, not to be racist, but Jews are pretty irrelevant - plenty if people are interested in slandering Islam but Judaeism usually comes across as lesser Christianity, no outsider has any stake in them. Protesters are upset about the way Israel are killing innocent Muslims just now, that has fk all to do with thr Jews, they should stop trying to make themselves the centre of attention and realise something far more important is going on
The Palestinians got what they voted for. Remember how they rejoiced in the streets about Oct 7 slaughtering!! What did they expect would happen after that terrible massacre??
Cenk has the logic of a kid.
Or a dishonest adult 😅
You clearly don’t understand the definition of of logic. Are you another dimwit who like to see Palestinian children being slaughtered ?
I know a few 4th graders who are smarter than Cenk.
Murry nailed Uygurs uncomplicated bigotry
Bigotry? I'm at a loss, it used to be bigotry to attack minorities who were on the end of some injustice, now defending Arabs who are being mercilessly slaughtered is also bigotry?
@joelmacinnes2391 yep, your a bigot. When you look into a mirror a bigot looks back, it's what you are, it's all you are
@@joelmacinnes2391 They attacked Israel. Face the consequences.
No need to be a genius to see the ignorance of this cenk guy! Douglas is in another league. It also helps when you've got common sense, truth and facts on your side.
what piers is thinking comparing the two in his introduction is mind boggling ... cenk is an ignorant emotional fool .. really nowhere in the world of intelligence...
0:16 😊
I'm sorry but he just doesn't, all he's interested in is deflecting attention, scapegoating everything to hamas, and attacking his opponents, I'm yet to hear him justify Israels actions with anything other than empty anti semitism claims and deflection to other world issues - I can't blame his opponent for being angry considering how much of a prick Murray is
Lol douglas murray, the contemptable racist journo that only ever gets to see palestine the idf wants him to see. Seriously though, when the entire world bar aus, america and uk thinks what israel is doing is genocide, don't you think you should start opening your eyes and stop being brainwashed by zionisht owned western media??
Douglas, thank you so much for standing with Israel and speaking the truth. God bless you!!!❤
Wow - awesome common sense points Douglas Murray! “Lost dog poster comparison…Every country that has taken in Palestinians gets terror…collateral damage is Hamas’s fault, they were warned to get out with tons of notice - the Israelis had NO notice, Palestinian authority celebrated Oct 7, Palestinian authority has pay to slay program and they allowed hospitals, schools and homes to house tunnel shafts and weapons.” Excellent excellent points - please keep on speaking up Douglas Murray!
This is so true!!!!! I agree 100%!!!!!
What about that rant addresses Israel's actions??
@@aliciafletcher9739happy Christmas and what?
The only one who “passionately articulates” is Douglas Murray! Cenk can do nothing in comparison. Another win for Douglas!
Cenk is such a fool.
Murray os very brave and consistent and true, while turks is looking upset!!!
when they can't win, they throw tantrums and become loud and aggressive.
Douglas is coward scared of truth
@@abdullahtariq8666says the guy who hides his face behind rags. Happy Christmas.
@@ernestschroeder9762a decent human being might consider that to be 'racist' - but race has gone out the window now that America's friends are involved
@@abdullahtariq8666 Shut up, bomber.
Douglas Murray having to explain the facts of life to children.
Douglas is always superior no matter who is he debating with
He admitted openly to piers he dont want any part of norman finkelstein
If you think being arrogant and pompous and shouting down and insulting others is superior , you need mental help.
@@Jake-jr2zh You defo need
Says the Seal Sheep human who has the brain span of a goldfish 🥴
"Oooh look he has a bRiTtIsH Accent" That makes him Superior
@@alitharealist4730 His education and knowledge is making him superior, also his fast brain and clearness. British accent is only a charming bonus. It's not his fault he was born in British family, you people should learn to fight with strong arguments, not with such law value remarks.
Douglas Murray is the best.
Piers Morgan: “do you agree that Hamas’s goal is to execute a genocide of the Jews?”
Cent: “I’m not interested in discussing Hamas, this is just a distraction.”
Really?? Wow,… Hamas is THE reason why there is currently a war… And this is why he has no clue . Hamas (and only Hamas) is the reason why children are dying in Gaza…. So, let’s not discuss that. Let’s just blame Israel shall we?
He's as unintellectual an intellectual as ever I've seen.
Douglas Murray is formidable! 100% on the mark on every point. How Piers manages to dig up these 'low grade thugs" and "low rent racist" is amazing.
He’s not, he’s a vile excuse of a human . He’s arrogant pompous and clearly loves seeing innocent children In Palestine being slaughtered. That smirking and personal insults are clearly disgusting. Says a lot about you and your low moral standards. Many intelligent Jewish people disagree about what happening in Gaza. Clearly you are not one of those .
What's racist about wanting no war and a cease fire and no death of children women ect.. Calm down Beverly 🙄
Douglas Murray doesn't address the actual issue n tells lies
@@aliciafletcher9739the liars are hiding in holes and covering there faces because they have some shame. Gutless fanatics. Come out Come out wherever you are.
@@alitharealist4730you're a hippy idiot. But happy Christmas to you anyway.
I feel bad for Murray having to debate this soap bubble. Too bad Cenk actually does represent a lot of uninformed yellers.
I love how Cenk thinks her can solve this Palestinian-Israeli conflict from his bedroom.
Genocide but Gaza have 2 million+ people.🤣
Yeah 🤣🤣🤣 Muslims always playing victims, if it passes, it passes.
Murray - the best there is so smart and so right as always ❤
Piers Morgan has no basis on which to state his views "as if" they are accurate and correct, in international law of conflict. Using the tragic, "friendly fire" that resulted in the death of 3 of the hostages, is both despicable and unforgiveable. In fact, it's tantamount to blood libel.
Some people think that the principle of “proportionality” during armed conflict refers to the number of people which each side kills. So if Hamas murdered 20 Israeli civilians, Israel would be acting “disproportionately” if, in response, it killed more than 20 Palestinians. THIS IS NONSENSE PIERS MORGAN!
No state or combatant may militarily target any innocent civilians to achieve any objective, no matter how worthy and no matter how few or many it killed. This is precisely what Hamas does, not Israel.
International law does permit States to use force in self-defence, provided (a) it is directed at a military target, (b) any incidental harm to civilians and civilian property is minimised as far as possible in the course of achieving the military aim, and (c) any harm to civilians and civilian property is not excessive in relation to the military advantage expected to be gained. This is what is meant by proportionality in military conflict.
THIS IS FOR PIERS: Whether these criteria are satisfied must be assessed by reference to the judgment of a reasonable military commander in the circumstances at the time, with the information then known to him. It is NOT a hind-sight exercise.
WHY DON'T YOU ASK A MILITARY EXPERT WHO IS IN ISRAEL? E.g. Col. Richard Kemp, former British Commander of HM Forces in Afghanistan, who is in Gaza, observing the IDF.
Moreover, Piers, citing the CHURCH as "proof", when the IDF were not in the area - and by the way, the "Church" managed to cite 2 different stories - they couldn't get it right? Why do you assume, Israel is lying? Finally, HOW DARE YOU use a tragic "friendly fire" to condemn the IDF!
The first obligation of any government is to protect its citizens. After the mass and indiscriminate slaughter on 7 October 2023 launched by a terrorist organisation from an adjacent territory, Israel is entitled, in self-defence, to enter that territory to dismantle that organisation to prevent it from ever repeating its murderous aims. This includes killing or capturing its members and destroying its capacity to manufacture, acquire or deploy weapons of war or destruction, its facilities, structures and buildings, wherever they may be found. That is Israel’s legitimate military objective. Such objective would have the additional advantage of reducing the suffering Gaza’s residents who have had to endure rule by a terrorist organisation which seized power in 2004 and has never since held an election.
US President Biden and former US President Obama have both stated unequivocally that it is not just the Israel’s right but its duty to eliminate and dismantle Hamas. In the words of US Secretary of State Blinken: “Israel has the right - indeed it has the obligation - to defend itself against these attacks from Hamas, and to try to do what it can to make sure that this never happens again.”
The problem Israel faces, is that Hamas embeds itself and its armaments amongst the civilians in Gaza, using them as intended human shields. Given this strategy (a war crime in itself) any lawful operation to eliminate Hamas will inevitably cause death and injuries to Gaza civilians and damage to civilian property. No-one has suggested any alternative other than that Israel’s people must just continue to suffer such attacks and submit to never-ending terror.
One way of reducing civilian casualties would be to warn and encourage civilians to move away from areas of intended military action. Israel has rightly advised Gaza civilians to move out of the area of intended ground operations in the Gaza Strip. If it hadn’t done so, then it would be blamed for failing to minimise civilian casualties.
The above author: BRIAN DOCTOR, KC (King's Counsellor, the highest level of Barrister in the UK.)
It’s so hard to deal with an enemy whose negotiating stance is: no negotiation. You have to die.
Plus, they have no duty to tell the truth to an enemy. So, even if they make a deal, they don’t feel compelled to keep it because they’re allowed to be false to an enemy.
I mean, there’s no way to deal with that. And when they’re raining down rockets on you…I mean, WTH. The rules of engagement are warped here.
I have a lot of respect for the way Israel has dealt with this in the most dignified way possible and continues to send in aid for the civilians even though Hamas steals it and leaves their people suffering.
I know people want to say Israel is being unreasonable but they’re exercising way more restraint and decency than almost any other country I’ve ever heard of, including the US.
As far as I'm concerned America are even worse than Israel, but Israel wouldn't exist were it not for the western world and the Arabs didn't have a say then
It might behove Israel to send in aid even knowing Hamas will steal it. Maybe the civilians there will finally come to their senses and turn on them. As it is now, Palestinians, minus some young children are in cahoots with their overlords.
What Douglas Murray expresses is probably why one of the mothers of the three men that were accidentally killed by the IDF has sent them a video expressing her family's forgiveness and that they understand the pressure that the IDF is under. She went on to say that their one accident should not deter them in fighting Hamas.
How someone can side with baby murdering cowards who hide under their sisters' skirts is almost beyond belief. The answer must be that he agrees with them.
In fact, it’s family. I guess mostly all Arabs simply agree with Hamas because they are Muslims like them. All cases they make are emotional and non rational, because they feel somehow involved.
Douglas Murray one of the most smartest, honest, always with his truth, and doesn’t like the people who are making evils And terrorism and blame it on orders.
Strong and powerful men love His personality.
Always a great pleasure to hear Douglas Murray! Who is this Cenk character?
Douglas Murray, I love you!
Really hated the intro.. to mention Cunk lgor in the same sentence as Douglas Murray is bad enough but to say that they are "Big Brains" is an insult to Murray.
Cenk? Big brain? 😂😂😂😂😂😅
Wow, did you see how Douglas wiped the floor with Cenk ? Good job Douglas, finally someone with integrity and knowledge slammed this Hamas propagandist.
Douglas Murray citing facts and also being able to convey to viewers of the interview that it's wrong on both sides is commendable. Cenk just bashing Israel is ridiculous, whilst ignoring history is astounding.
I can’t share a photo where there was a guy sitting wrapped in a white bag just resting to have another photograph to pretending to be death.
Hahaha You should share it!! It's hilarious. I've seen that too!! Haha terrible acting job!!
Well done Douglas Murray.
Well said and thats the truth what he said.
Logic and facts versus emotion and lies.
Honestly, credit where credit is due, Cenk is the most rational pro-palestinian debater so far. But his views are too idealistic, the 2 state solution has been put on the table multiple times and Palestine has rejected it each time.
The example of peace deal using Egypt would have work if, idk, Palestinian dont go around stiring conflict with their neighbours.
I think he hates Jews and is a Muslim.
He is not rational. He is talking abstract claptrap, devoid of any real understanding. A bag of hot air..
@@credenza1 nah, he had the decency to not interrupt when others are speaking and thats a thousand fold better than the typical hamas loyalists on the web and leagues better than the 2 jihadists that were previously on claiming intifada meant internal struggle (lmfao).
While I don't agree with Cenk's argument, its better to have proper and civil discourse lest we stoop to the level of those pro-hamas groypers.
Cenk over emotional and astonishingly naive, needs to do some homework.
rational? his views ?? What views >>?? "WOW stop killing babies bla bla " looks like that drunk guy in the pub speaking without any knowledge.
Peace with terrorists and violent misogynists? Sounds like Chamberlain in 1936.
I see high triglycerides/cholesterol and blood pressure in that FAT man.
Guys, I think this video must be illegal because I just witnessed a murder.
😂
I like Cenk, I like TYT, but he's out of his element here. Douglas Murray has been on the front lines in this conflict and knows more about it than most. He's on the right side of history with this, and has the best arguments for his position. Israel isn't "doing genocide." That's such a ridiculous claim, it's stunning.
Intelligence is so attractive!!!
Doug is correct
About the tragic shooting of the 3 hostages: Hamas had taken to disguising in IDF uniforms to mislead idf soldiers into boobytraps and as hostages speaking hebrew
This Turkey man was from Muslim that's the example of Muslim only take side of their brother hood
Piers, like you dressing in a suit, not knowing the conditions of combat, place yourself in those conditions. They are in war with arms in the most terrible conditions, not sitting behind a desk and fighting with their mouths like you are
100% Douglas. You tell him
How can we eliminate religion. Stone Age squabbles between goat herders have become pathetic.
Uyghur should to go to jail for misinformation about this conflict! More all this evidence says he payed by Hamas no question!
I’d believe Douglas Murray any day over Cent - he is not believable in any sense of the word
An IDF officer said the terrorists had long learnt to make smalll explosive devices they attach to the hip (which explains that footage with semi-naked terror suspects everyone went nuts about). That plus that the IDF did not expect hostages to find their way from the underground possibly explains the shooting. Awful nonetheless!
The gentlemen on the right literally sounds like some little punk teenager debating an extremely extremely well educated intelligent & insightful man.
I'm am SO embarrassed for the guy on the right. How humiliating!!!
Piers. . since you have so many great ideas about creating a terror state right next to Israel. why don't you run for office?
They can call for genocide but don't like it when it might go the other way even though the Israelis are not. He says Hamas might do , then why do they say they will do it again and again.
Pierce Morgan with the question of why did the soldiers shoot shirtless men carrying sos placards just proof that he has never been close to any kind of conflict. The number of emotions that run through the soldiers is unbelievable and only a person in the same situation will understand that. That Palastinians have no idea what he is talking about or he is lying on purpose.
If there are two big brains there, they both reside in Douglas' cranium.
He thinks so, he nothing but an pompous arrogant POS.
@@Jake-jr2zh
Abdul
You're everywhere 😂
Cenk Uygur is becoming boring to watch. It makes your show boring.
So well said Douglas Murray! If only he was PM we would not be in this state!!!
Starts shouting because Douglas is way to intelligent for him!😂🤓🇬🇧
He knows more about Muslims than Muslims 🤓
Devastating loss of innocent lives both sides.
Piers Morgan's questions show a total lack of understanding. Hamas are extremely adept at pretending to be hostages, drawing in & killing IDF soldiers. These soldiers have been in Gaza for weeks: lack of sleep - what does Piers Morgan think? They all pack up at 5.00 pm, go home, shower, sleep, eat? Has he any idea of the trauma and anxiety, where Hamas suddenly appear from underground tunnels? Those like Piers Morgan who make these statements show how little they know about war. The IDF is a people's army. They are young kids - 18, 19, 20, 21 - they are not seasoned soldiers. They made a tragic mistake, not following protocols. Why? Do you know Piers, judge, jury and executioner, Piers - it's all good publicity, and that's what you are doing. I would like to see you in Gaza, Piers and experience Hamas!
"Children are tools to be used against Israel.
We will sacrifice them for the political support of the World."
Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh
Jan 17th, 2017.
That is why there are dead, Palestinian children and dead, Israeli children!
He thinks war is being handled like a football match
the muslim tells him to shut up, I've found when ignorance screams "intelligence moves on"
Cenk is such a waste😂😂😂
Douglas is a vile creature.
Douglas Murray sir well said 👏👏❤
What about Armenia?? .... no one talks about the massacres going on against Christians by Azerbijan and Turkey.
Murray nails it. Hamas leaders in Watar knew what they were up to
I think October 7th was the last straw
I completely agree with Mr Douglas Murray.
Peearse and Chunkacrap. 2 People who will never go there to see first hand what is happening.
Bravo murray
Douglas Murray is superb.
PROPORSIONALITY IS NONSENSE, should israel have to put up with hamas terrorism till the end of time? because that is ISLAM the religion of peace !!
Cenk Got Served.Boom🤣
Cenk is big but not big brained, Piers. Words matter.
Pierce STOP INTERRUPTING!
You Australian?
@@mikeanderson7549 Strayan
@@Rhea123 ok nice
You prolly live alone?
@@mikeanderson7549 Ah you didn't get the joke ok.
@@Rhea123 what joke?
Isn't strayan in Australia?
Totally destroyed Douglas Murray the GOAT. That guy really need to leave his bedroom. 😂😂😂😂
Rexo - are you talking Douglas leaving his bedroom? He's out there in the thick of it even now and has been. I'm guessing you got the two debaters the wrong way round? But as you have stated, whether intentional or not, you are very much mistaken in that statement and in relation to Douglas Murray.
It seems some accounts are replying to comments, and then blocking the person to whom they are replying. Like the masked cowards chanting hate.
Douglas fired him up so bad he needs to be charged with arson!!
Piers needs to shut up a little, and let Douglas answer.
If Douglas keeps quiet you need to keep quiet as well.
One is a great mind the other doesn’t have one…please Piers! Do not compare Douglas Murray to Uygur. He’s not an opponent to Murray.
No matter how many people spread lies and hate God protects his children...🙏🏾🇮🇱♥️
The facial expression 😅 of Douglas
In Jewish history, enemy Amalek were not @robs….but had the same genocidal aims against Jews
Did Piers Morgan actually refer to Cenk Uygur as a "big brain"?
Calling Cenk a big brain 💀
Seriously? I didn’t know Hamas was dropping the bombs
I am a huge fan of Douglas, he just schooled that incompetent Cenk 😁
Cenk is just nothing more than a walking talking and yelling 😁propaganda machine 😄
I would like Douglas talk with the lawyer who is leading the NY protesters.
Cenk. Netenyahu propped up Hamas. This is response he got. And this is not genocide which involves a plan.
Hamas is still firing missiles as he speaks
Douglas is obviously an analytical thinker and speaker unlike Cenk who rumbles on and on. He has not analytically responded. Cenk doesn't know how to handle himself in such situations.
That mouth piece for Palestinians is just that has NFI just a waffler
Yep, just as I expected, comment immediately deleted by RUclips
Power to Judaism
Power to Israel
Power to I D F
Power to Douglas Murray !
2 big brains???... Only 1 there.. Douglas Murray
Dayyyummm
Douglas Murray’s intellect compared to the other screaming guest is beyond compare. It’s like Einstein arguing with a 15 year old.