DAINSLEIF is the Reason why the Abyss Twin is NOT a Descender ( Genshin Impact Theory )

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  • @GenshinBane
    @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +40

    Also, Dain says in the Caribert quest "Lemme go SEARCH my memory for the answer" 🤨bro kinda sus
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  • @Hanab-E
    @Hanab-E 9 месяцев назад +74

    Personally, my take on why the Sibling is recorded by the Irminsul is because of a fake identity that fooled everyone, including Celestia, Nahida (Irminsul) and the Fatui, into thinking that she's not a Descender. But also to protect herself from the Abyss.
    I think it has to do with identity. I think the Abyss takes advantage of people's preexisting wishes, to infect them with its own will, in a way. And those wishes define who you are, as a person. It's your ambition, something that's also closely related to Visions, by the way. Anyway, by calling herself the Abyss Princess, or whatever other nickname she used, back then, she was able to get recorded in the Irminsul with a fake identity, and not as Lumine. As such, the only vulnerable part of Lumine is a fake version of her identity. And I think the Traveler is going the exact same thing, by going by the name you give him. Well, unless you call him Aether, but I think it might go further than just a name being an identity.
    About the Fatui, we might think that they're wearing a mask for the sake of the Commedia aesthetic, but I think it has to do with abandoning their past identity. It's the same with the Foul Legacy, Childe masks himself so that the Abyssal powers won't see him as Ajax, but as Childe. Dottore knows about things only Descenders should know because he masked himself from Irminsul. Zandik knows nothing, but The Doctor is a completely different identity.
    All in all, I think there's a correlation of sorts between identity and vulnerability to Irminsul and the Abyss

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +15

      Oooohh damnnn this is something very interesting!!!

    • @ben-taobeneton3945
      @ben-taobeneton3945 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yo, wtf!? Let him cook.
      This is an interesting hypothesis. Sounds very logical.

    • @Jazzatic2011
      @Jazzatic2011 9 месяцев назад +5

      See I think this makes sense becasue theres a theory that what ever twin you play, the protag twin, seems to know something when you first encounter the other, the abyss twin, and is maybe keeping secrets. One secret being their identity theory as the traveller goes by the name we gave them, aka the account, but people dont know them as Aether / Lumine.
      Which you said - I replied a little early lol but agreed

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 9 месяцев назад +26

    Dainsleif passive should be whenever you mess with a leyline you get double the product no matter what.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +4

      That woupd be mad convenient

    • @NanaNanaque
      @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад

      Even getting dubble fmg from the memory ?

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 9 месяцев назад

      @@NanaNanaque Seems like a fair exchange.

    • @bloody4558
      @bloody4558 9 месяцев назад

      I'd rather have a passive that removes def% and def stats from any artifact sets not related to geo

    • @King_Jockey
      @King_Jockey 7 месяцев назад

      what's more likely to happen is he does more dmg to abyssal creatures

  • @mohmedalherz20
    @mohmedalherz20 9 месяцев назад +26

    Hear me out
    What if this is the seventh cycle
    It's possible that the reason each character has c6 is because that is how many cycles hve passed
    And we are in the seventh

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +8

      Oooh yea thats a pretty cool thought

    • @thevindusenarath999
      @thevindusenarath999 7 месяцев назад +2

      Just read this and had a thought
      Could this be why Khaenrhia was destroyed?
      I mean, we know the abyss twin possibly completed one samasra cycle and that Dainsleif, a khanerian, remembers his time with the abyss twin who possibly went through a samsara cycle. Maybe the reason that they destroyed khaneria was because they couldn't restart the cycle with them around

  • @ScarletteXoxo-wg2ui
    @ScarletteXoxo-wg2ui 9 месяцев назад +24

    Now that they featured "deceiving" in Genshin. The Abyss Twin might've tampered also the Irminsul just so everyone thinks shes not a descender. Maybe our Twin is already dead BUT she has to revive herself (since they introduced a puppetry also) 🤣

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +5

      Hmmm it is quite possible

  • @jdblue9460
    @jdblue9460 9 месяцев назад +88

    If this theory is true then it would make since why were not recorded. The abyss sibling traveled with Dainsleif but the Traveler is traveling with paimon. I think later in the story Paimon might find out about who she really is and save the Traveler from Dainsleif and Irminsul. Paimon as we know her may be recorded by Irminsul but that doesn't mean it knows the real her. Focolor was able to decieve Irminsul but having Furina play as her so who's to say Paimon is not the same

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +8

      Ooooh yesss very interesting!!

    • @thatonexfallenangel7810
      @thatonexfallenangel7810 9 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve always thought about this cause no one in Teyvat knows who Paimon is nor what she is, yet she’s affected by Irminsul. And she so conveniently found the traveler when they first arrived in Teyvat.

    • @THExJMC
      @THExJMC 9 месяцев назад +1

      Doesn't exactly make sense, because nobody knows who Paimon is. So Dainsleif's experience with Paimon is just as much as his experience with the Traveler. If he has since recorded Paimon into the Irminsul, then why hasn't he recorded the Traveler based off of the same experiences?

    • @jdblue9460
      @jdblue9460 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@THExJMC I am not one hundred percent on this theory but maybe its because Dainsleif needs more information. Remember that the traveler does not use his real name when talking with people, he uses the name we give him as a cover. We know that despite the name we picked Aether/Lumine will always address each other as Aether/Lumine. The traveler is constantly hiding information from both the player and Everyone in tevat besides Paimon. Maybe the reason the abyss sibling feels betrayed is because they told dainsleif the truth about them and because of that He recorded them in irminsul which now is possibly trapping them in the system of tevat

    • @THExJMC
      @THExJMC 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@jdblue9460 Trapped them in what way though? I'm quite sure Lumine can leave Teyvat with Aether if she wanted to, but she has some other goal that she must accomplish first. There are also plenty of people recorded in Irminsul that seem to be able to come and go from Teyvat as they please.

  • @Damla63241
    @Damla63241 9 месяцев назад +20

    Then the separation of the twins might have to do something with the end of their own journey. Twins having arrived to Teyvat during cataclysm have decided to leave Teyvat, but failed due to the sustainer seemingly wanting to use them to save Teyvat. This could be their own celestial identities that they are not aware of except the sustainer. Samsara cycles are likely to be created by the Heavenly Principles to prevent the end of Teyvat, which would be the cataclysm taking over Teyvat. The game constantly tries to imply that the twins are 'fated' to change this world. Maybe Dainsleif himself has the power to maintain these samsara cycles in order to maintain Teyvat's ongoing presence, or trying to take advantage of the cycles created by the other celestial beings. The Heavenly Principles isn't likely since it has lost most of its power in the game. Dainsleif not contributing in the war during cataclysm might also mean that he's trying to see the end of the current twin's journey in that cycle.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +3

      Ooooh very interesting! Its true that Dain porbably has got something to do with the Samsara cycles rather than HP. I wonder how its all gonna play out tho

  • @DjimonMoz
    @DjimonMoz 9 месяцев назад +8

    8:24
    This, in my opinion, was the 'a-ha!' moment of your theory. These little details that bleed out of the game through easter eggs in the game's marketing are my favorites. Awesome stuff my friend.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha yess!! Thank you!

  • @zzul00
    @zzul00 9 месяцев назад +24

    Dain having to search his memory means that he doesn't seem to be able to visit Irminsul directly like nahida despite being the bough keeper... He goes on site to remember... Does this just make him a leyline outcrop in human form? 😂 A blossom of revelation? And thats why his arm is blue? And why the caribet quest felt so real for the traveller because just like the leyline outcrops the enemy is very real. You even get enemy droppings 😂 Anyhow, great vid! Keep it up bane!

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +3

      Yesss! His arm probably acts like a leyline , that would be a great twist XD and thank you!

  • @nihaan7211
    @nihaan7211 9 месяцев назад +15

    If Dianeslief was a part of the irminsul itself, would the traveler you pick’s memories be in there as well? Cause dainsleif has already been on journeys with us, there for irrminsul should have information on us cause he has information on us

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +5

      Yess! I wanted to say that in the video but discarded it. It is possible that Dainsleif is gathering info on us as well for the Irminsul

  • @DrakeWurrum
    @DrakeWurrum 6 месяцев назад +2

    We know from the Narzissenkreuz Ordo quests that being classified as a Descender requires one to possess a will that rivals the world. Not all who arrive from outside Teyvat are classified as Descenders.

  • @bliblibloo8293
    @bliblibloo8293 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is a really great theory! i think you're onto something and I definitely learned something new. Dainsleif is called the bough keeper as in the keeper of the bough of irminsul, so I can totally see this being true and you had be convinced when you mentioned Nahida's voiceline about the sibling's journey becoming fuzzy (likely when dain and the sibling separated).
    I think a question I would ask in this case is why record the sibling in the irminsul in the first place? maybe dain recorded the sibling intentionally, which could also be part of his "betrayal"? perhaps he tried to save the sibling by recording them in the irminsul? so many questions...
    There's a really nice theory video about how dain is the third descender's human remains by MyNameForNow-- kinda like how furina is the human remains of focalors. at first i was very skeptical, but it makes sense especially if we take your ideas and apply them to that idea. Maybe the third descender was put into the irminsul, or they are the irminsul-- after all trees are dead gods in Teyvat. and what if the human remains of the third descender is dain, who has an inherent connection to the irminsul like you explained (so well).

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you!! Oooh that Dain theory does seem quite fantastic haha

  • @asemsheikhomar8789
    @asemsheikhomar8789 9 месяцев назад +9

    if that theory is right then dain is nahida's big brother💀💀💀💀

  • @WhyHey_There
    @WhyHey_There 9 месяцев назад +3

    Why is it that the first thing you said in the video made me say “Where did you come from, where did you go, where did you come from Irminsul Joe.”😂

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂ahahahaha

  • @ayanbarnwal2905
    @ayanbarnwal2905 9 месяцев назад +2

    Also note that in the Caribert quest, we get our twin's memory from a ley line, which is a part of irminsul.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Yup. But like i said in the video , we experience it due to a tampering which Dain says is probably by the Abyss but it must have been done by Dainsleif himself because he wanted to know how our twin's journey ended

  • @Quon
    @Quon 8 месяцев назад +2

    His arm do be looking like roots

  • @kim_genshin
    @kim_genshin 9 месяцев назад +2

    Another amazing theory from Bane!! I wanna point out that dainsleif's arm got some blue veins, just like the irminsul branches

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Ahhh yess!! And thank you kim!

  • @siliconhawk
    @siliconhawk 9 месяцев назад +2

    holy your stuff is very well made and with quite a lot of effort . deserves more subs and views. keep making more.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you! So glad you liked it😁

  • @Alicewillbepresident
    @Alicewillbepresident 9 месяцев назад +6

    This is such a cool theory and honestly makes Dainsleif kind of creepy, but what would be stopping Dainsleif from recording the mc?

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Maybe paimon? Idk haha and thanks!

    • @NanaNanaque
      @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад

      That's creepy ? I think dain stalking and knowing everyonething is creepyer

  • @ben-taobeneton3945
    @ben-taobeneton3945 9 месяцев назад +3

    Deinsleid: _"Come forward and understand the TRUE meaning of this world."_
    This line always makes me think: "what did he meant by TRUE meaning of this world.?" That the sky of Teyvat is fake or that we live in a globe that someone outside the sky lies a far greater power then we know of? Hmm....very curious.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yea i think he's talking about the samsara cycle thingy

  • @TKP83349
    @TKP83349 9 месяцев назад +2

    7:42 MY MIND GO BRAAAAAA!🤯🤯🤯

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      I take that you liked it😁

  • @hrs795
    @hrs795 9 месяцев назад +4

    If Dain was part of the Irminsul, then maybe Nahida is the chip of his fingernail. 😂

  • @kevingame3198
    @kevingame3198 6 месяцев назад +1

    So my guess our sibling is descender and it could most likely be a herrscher

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  5 месяцев назад

      that would be interesting

  • @Dayahya13
    @Dayahya13 9 месяцев назад +4

    Im waiting for that

  • @ZiprealFPE
    @ZiprealFPE 6 месяцев назад +2

    One more interesting fact - Dain dont have star of Ishtar on his chest like other khaenrians or serpent knights. Why, if he was like captain or so? Instead he has some strange symbol.
    If Dain really is like some avatar of Irminul, then how he become it? Maybe he actually died and then Irminsul like recreated him? But why?

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  6 месяцев назад

      I really hope 4.6 gives some insight into Dainsleif like damn stop leaving us in the open so much

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ 5 месяцев назад

      @@GenshinBane4.7 I think
      4.6 is gonna be the interlude quest with arlecchino

  • @TimeLords910
    @TimeLords910 8 месяцев назад +1

    Irminsul is based off of yggdrasil the world tree from norse mytholgy

  • @tld00
    @tld00 9 месяцев назад +1

    Subbed. Inject me with more of this lore dump senpai

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Ahahahahaha😂😂😂thank you!

  • @kayleighdriessen
    @kayleighdriessen 9 месяцев назад +2

    Oooh I'm excited to watch this

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm pretty sure you're gonna enjoy this one :D

  • @kevingame3198
    @kevingame3198 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have to disappoint you about I think eventually, this theory could be debunked that lumine/abyss twin could be a new type of descender like something like ultima from ff16

  • @THEO00900
    @THEO00900 8 месяцев назад +1

    One minor correction. Not anything outside of Teyvat is a Descender. If it was, the ln the whale wpild be the fifth. To be a Descender you need to have the power to challenge the world...whatever that means.

  • @MihajloNastic
    @MihajloNastic 9 месяцев назад +3

    Imma watch it

  • @lukaskucerik3751
    @lukaskucerik3751 5 месяцев назад +1

    Irminsul is a really good server but someone messed it up time to time like nVidia 😂

  • @Azzywrld224
    @Azzywrld224 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wei is making some interesting lore theorist

  • @haberkonium
    @haberkonium 9 месяцев назад +1

    That was a dope sponsored poem

  • @aishiteru2736
    @aishiteru2736 9 месяцев назад +2

    But why would it record Abyss Sibling to be a native rather than an Alien? Recording something also means recording their origins right?

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      If u think about it, the Irminsul's records about the Sibling starts with the Twin landing in Khaenriah and nothing before that . So it's like Irminsul has info on them so yea not an alien

    • @NanaNanaque
      @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад

      Thay are still an alian nahida mentioned there memory apered in irminsoul suddenly and then gone agin
      Decnders and outlanders arn't the same thing
      Rene definse a decander as somone with a strong will able to create to sustain and destroy the world
      He tryed to become a decander witch implys tyvat natives can also become decanders

  • @nessy.editing
    @nessy.editing 9 месяцев назад +2

    help why did you steal BranOnline’s thumbnail art??😭😭 also great theory!!

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Hahaha it was such an apt thumbnail for the video 🙈🙈 ive credited him but cudnt reach him to get permission

  • @barti560
    @barti560 9 месяцев назад +1

    It also means that abyss twin was likely the third descender. And is dead

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Uhmmm not necessarily i guess?

  • @OK-otic
    @OK-otic 9 месяцев назад

    However, as this is the fourth samsara cycle as noted by the researchers, then the traveler can only be a descender unless Rukkhadevata had erased his information. However, if that were the case, the traveler's twin's memories would also have to be implanted. Saying that the traveler is not a descender is a very far stretch.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Who's saying traveler isnt a descender for that

    • @OK-otic
      @OK-otic 9 месяцев назад

      @@GenshinBane it was like the last thing he said in the video. Please correct me if I am wrong, that's just what I heard

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Oh no no hahaha it's saying the Abyss twin is not a Descender and not the Traveler

    • @OK-otic
      @OK-otic 9 месяцев назад

      @@GenshinBane hmm...as in the twin lost their status as a descender after completing their first cycle in the Irminsul? 🤔

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      Uhmmmm well not necessarily. In the video im saying that The twin has their info in Irminsul because it was recorded by Dain who is connected to or is a part of the Irminsul. So since the Twin has info in the irminsul , the Fatui doesnt consider them a Descender

  • @mansourzare6144
    @mansourzare6144 9 месяцев назад +2

    Gear up booster was great even then I couldn't play genshin with it only used to play mlbb then they blow it up the only worth it had now is gone

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yea? It works with genshin quite well for me apparentlt

    • @mansourzare6144
      @mansourzare6144 9 месяцев назад

      @GenshinBane maybe I don't know I'm mobile gamer it didn't worked for genshin only for mlbb worked then they made it pay to work now I use regular vpn for mlbb! I know uu booster before gear up booster
      ( if u need my comment delete just tell)

  • @Grains_of_truth
    @Grains_of_truth 9 месяцев назад +1

    If you look at Scaramouche wrists and the traveler, they have the same glowing balls, like a ball jointed doll or… puppet. I think Aether is a puppet created to be like the twin (like how Raidon made Scaramouche) but Lumine wanted Aether to experience the world she knew and loved, so he will understand her reasons for being so angry. All the loved ones and experiences needed to be had otherwise she can’t justify it to him. Take a look side by side of Saramouche and Aether to see the balls at the wrists like a doll or puppet.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад +1

      While that is an interesting deduction, i think its kinda just part of his gloves. Also, we have to remember that Aether is actually canon traveler so if anybody could be a puppet it could prolly only be Lumine

    • @brack7955
      @brack7955 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GenshinBane Actually, Aether is not the canon traveler as he is just Mihoyo's mc for advertisements. He's just a poster boy, the real mc is up to the players.

    • @jaseem4483
      @jaseem4483 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@brack7955actually no. Aether is the canon mc. You can see that in manga.

    • @brack7955
      @brack7955 9 месяцев назад

      @@jaseem4483 Aether was literally in one page. The genshin story is far from over so we do not know what time period that scene might have taken place. It could have been when the Abyss sibling was still on their journey. Also, if there was a canon MC, why would mihoyo give us a chance to pick who we play as??

    • @jaseem4483
      @jaseem4483 9 месяцев назад

      @@brack7955 what about the version trailers then? Unlike HSR in genshin trailers aether is the mc.

  • @jeje2425
    @jeje2425 9 месяцев назад +1

    i don't think dain is the irminsul, if you said dain is a "part" of irminsul then probably. Each branch of irminsul is one cycle or one samsara or one timeline whatever you name it, and dain in every branch is different and those dains have to protect or rescue something on the branch. “Defeat me. Command me to step aside. Show me that you're worthier than I to rescue her.” Who is "her" ? what ever it is, if she failed to get rescued, something sinister will happens like potentially destroy the entire irminsul, because it's his duty as a bough keeper. with that said, maybe paimon also a bough keeper like dain

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Yea i said 'part' of irminsul.
      'Her' is none other than Lumine right? He's talking to Aether so it should be lumine

    • @jeje2425
      @jeje2425 9 месяцев назад

      @@GenshinBane then lumine might be a branch of irminsul, or something to do with irminsul branch that dain need yo rescue as a bough keeper. Or maybe Lumine is the one that dain needs to defeat in order to rescue whatever is "her" he said which is something else entirely. The reason why they got apart by the end of Lumine's journey is because dain needs to protect something while lumine needs to destroy something.

  • @Drozu_FDS
    @Drozu_FDS 8 месяцев назад +1

    Whats the theme or music called in 1:04 where dainsleif appears?

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  8 месяцев назад +1

      Samudrartha - Imbibitor Lunae theme

    • @Drozu_FDS
      @Drozu_FDS 8 месяцев назад

      @GenshinBane Im a star rail player and i didnt even notice, mb

  • @Kasraken
    @Kasraken 9 месяцев назад +1

    So basically you just said we and our twin are not of this world but the only reason the twin is not a descender is because Dain recorded him into Irminsul? I think that means the twin has all the qualifications to be a descender just like we are dose it not? (Only thing is some nerd followed him around and put his information out there for anyone viewing Irminsul to find).
    Anyway interesting video!

  • @piri_desu
    @piri_desu 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wether your theory will be right or wrong, that is an another topic. I will say, your theory was seriously interesting.

  • @NanaNanaque
    @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think paimon is the reson we are a decander baised on 4.2
    Dain put it there i think

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Uhmm why is Paimon the reason why were are a descender?

    • @NanaNanaque
      @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@GenshinBane cuz no matter who u chose lumine or aether the one w paimon is a decander while the one w dain is not counted as a decander
      Lumine and aether have diffret personalatys
      We got sn answer to what defines a decender but still no why

  • @SmashAsheck
    @SmashAsheck 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dainslief piche se pelte hue

  • @NanaNanaque
    @NanaNanaque 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dose that make nahida his sister ?

  • @hrs795
    @hrs795 9 месяцев назад +2

    So, when our twin sibling said that Dain is a traitor, maybe it's because he messed up when storing some data in the Irminsul. Or, maybe he put our sibling data into the Irminsul without their consent. 🤔
    But, how about your last theory about Dain is (maybe) Surtologi, is there any connection with this theory?

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  9 месяцев назад

      Yup! Our twin probably knows some ill details about Dain.
      And as for the connection with my previous theory , i might not have any now😅

  • @user-vk6xb4no7z
    @user-vk6xb4no7z 9 месяцев назад

    Bro why are you celebrating Diwali