They complain diesel is not longer subsidized and paying workers at least the minimum wage is hard. Fine but this is a problem of income. Meaning they not get enough to pay all this. While at the same time consumers complain about high food prices. So what happens between consumers and farmers? Well the food industry. Monopolization, centralization, dividends. They syphoning off the money for stockholders and CEOs.
Well, you hit the nail on the head in your first sentence. Decreasing the tax on something that is heavily taxed is not to subsidize something, and farmers are heavily reliant on diesel.
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Correct. Also keep in mind that most of the cereals produced in Germany (2022 41 million tonnes) are consumed by livestock so this has a direct impact on meat price. Meat production is also subsidized and while prices go up for the consumer, the farmers do not see the benefits of what we pay with taxes. Only the 3-4 big meat producers in Germany see gains year after year that are directly influenced by taxes. I wish that we could directly consume meat only from local producers and in a more direct connection with the source, but that would mean a complete reeducation of consumer habits and the expectation of consuming less meat, day to day.
@ Why have meat prices doubled suddenly last year if meat production was subsidized? Nothing else ever increased in price by that much in a single day.
Well, no one said it is not a problem of income, the point is the same - the government is working in service of capitalists and not protecting the working class.
And yet I see no farmers blocking Nestle factories and the like because they know they'd lose that battle. Farmers rather antagonize tax payers than the rich.
“Don’t bite the hand that feeds you” If there was ever evidence that politicians are out of touch, this is it. There’s an old saying in America stemming from the service industry-”You don’t mess with the ppl that handle your food.”
Exactly!!! You do realize farmers get free money in diesel subsidies? Agriculture has the highest subsidies in Germany compared to everything else. They should be thanking the government. Now it's time to pay the government back with farming on electricity instead of diesel.
They aren't biting thou. They are simply not subsidizing which is basically giving them free money. Farmers should learn to play fair like the rest of the people who buy diesel.
Agricultural matters are decided in the EU. Since the EU themselves have decided to give huge subsidies to EU-farmers (french sector is even bigger) Because they want to keep the competition outside the EU out. Subsidies exist because EU needs its own share of food security also. @@Joey-ct8bm
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you" So, don't block the roads of the taxpayers who pay your subsidies? So, don't harass the citizens who pay for your fuel through tax money? So, don't complain about not having to pay taxes to the people who literally pay their taxes for you?
I cringe with urban people complaining about Farmers having high value equipment, believing food comes from the supermarket. Farming in the West isn't profitable without being partially subsided. Since production costs are high, Labor, equipment, harvesting is conditioned by weather conditions. Even so, it's important for a country to feed it self than being dependable on imports.
That's not really a fair representation, is it? It is not the "expensive equipment". It is the owning large amount of valuable land, large amounts of valuable equipment, AND on top of that, having millions of euro in the bank. Sure "not all farmers" are fabulously wealthy, but if you look at all the millionaires in the country, and you sort them by occupation, guess who the biggest group is? That's right, farmers. And as for "why don't city folk start their own farm?"; well, maybe they don't have GOLDEN BUCKETS OF MONEY to buy all that land?
@@Scapestoat "having millions of euro in the bank." - how many independent farmers have spare millions in the bank ? " valuable land, large amounts of valuable equipment" - that took generations of hard work to acquire. Do you even know how much the monthly payments for equipment cost ? Then the fuel, fertilizer, energy for storage, equipment maintenance, etc. ? Do you even know how much one lite of hydraulic oil costs ? Or one tire for a tractor ? Two years of drought or two years of heavy rain in a row, and there go the "millions in the bank". And who will then complain about high food prices ? That's right , "smart" guys like you.
@@scratchy996 That's a lot of opinionated nonsense. You very much sound like a farmer who wants more subsidies. When you start an argument with someone on the internet, maybe you shouldn't assume that they know nothing about anything. People know a lot more than you think. You just end up looking childish, for all to see.
You can farm with electric vehicles though. You can farm without diesel at all. Which is paid by diesel subsidies. Which is free money they got from the government. Put that money in clean farming instead. Seems perfectly normal to me.
@@halberderdier8073 Not just subidies. They also don't have to pay as much taxes as every other citizen. And they also don't have to pay as much for gas as the rest. Why do we have to pay subsidies, their taxes, and their fuel? If they are so self-sufficient, then they should be paying it themselves.
The levels of disregard of the political class towards the working class people, especially farmers is really astonomical. The government is the enemy!!!
just go green deindustrialise and import all your food what could go wrong become a service economy where you serve each other coffee and you can pretend it is a real economy
Even with subsidies without protectionist practices against imports most farms in the EU and US would be dead. The champions of so called free market will not allow cheaper countries to come in with products the government doesn't have to subsidize...
" cheaper countries to come in with products" - there is a reason why others produce cheaper, they produce low quality. The Eu can't control the quality of imported food, and no one wants to depend on foreign blackmail opportunities. Look at what happened to the UK during ww2.
No buyers, no market for farmers to sell in. And just fyi, if the existing farmers stop doing their jobs others would fill in & start working as farmers. And that would be more profitable for the new farmers as there would be less competition.
😂😂what if all your farmers get out of farming in your country??. Where will you get the food??. So you are going to depend entirely on foreign country for food??? Like in Middle East???
We export around the world. We have one of the biggest dairy companies. Checkout New Zealand farming. No farmer receives a subsidy. As I say if they can't make money they sell to those that can.@@irose4066
German Farmers also feed a population that is almost 17 times that of New Zealand... with roughly comparable % of Agricultural land expressed as a % of the nations total landmass.
More than 60 years ago, Canada has put in place a system of supply control for three agricultural products: milk, eggs, and chicken! This system of supply control was put in place to protect Canadian farmers against dumping from the United States! Each farmer is an assign quota of production, and in return the farmer has a guaranty price for his product. The guaranty price is set at a level that ensures profitable and sustainable farm production. Important, there are absolutely no subsidies from the government. The Canadians citizens have accepted to pay a little more for milk (and related by-products), for eggs and for chickens. This system of supply control is working perfectly. During the last free-trade negotiations with Europe, Canada had to fight hard to maintain the system of supply control for milk, eggs and chickens! Those quotas can be sold. For many farmers, selling their quotas financed their retirements!
@@samanthaw4955 Subsidy is when money flow from the government to farmers! In Canada, the Canadians have the constitutional right to spend their money without government interference !
@WojtekPordzik-zr2vt Global supply chains are breaking down because of the current geopolitical situation. If a country can not produce enough food to feed itself, it will have problems. Germany has had to import food since the 1800's. But the less food it has to import the better.
Adapt or perish. Farmers are holding the government to ransom is hardly surprising. They have a disproportionate amount of power and it is costing everyday people the policies that governments have enacted to "protect" and win favour with farmers. While the government subsidises farmers to keep food prices low this isn't free money. It's money that the tax payer coughs up or it's taken from schools, hospitals, police etc. As farmers are subsidised they have no incentive to to push for efficiency. Low yields....just throw an abundance of fertiliser at the problem then complain about the guy down the road who is doing it for cheaper so price caps get set in place. Look at Northern Ireland, farms pissed cheap fertiliser rather than using it sparingly causing run off and algae blooms in Lough Neigh. Politicians turn a blind eye as they don't want to loose the farm community vote. Food prices wouldn't be high if they didn't block the grain coming from Ukraine. These protectionist policies for local farmers are the root cause of many problems we are seeing today. For context this is something that needs to happen and I point to New Zealand and what they done back in the 70's. it's farm sectors is one of the strongest and best quality out there. Yes the transition can be handled better and Farmers are some of the most talented and skilful people in our economy due to the many many skills running a farm forces them to learn. They are more than capable of adjust and adapting, especially if the government clearly lays out a transition plan and works with the farmers to help them adjust eg. changing planning laws, helping fund projects to reduce costs, settling laws in place that allow the farmer freedom to be stewards of the land as it's in their interest to work with nature. Make it easier for them to monitor and correct issues rather than micromanaging them into oblivion.
The German Government takes subsidy off Agriculture and pledges funds for Ukraine in an era of high gas prices. The logic behind these actions are sinister.
@@Scapestoat Many places in Germany are in need of new infrastructures. Doesn't make sense still. The Ukrainians collecting €1.5k monthly is not enough, right?
@@obrien9672 What are you saying, exactly? Because it sounds a bit like you're saying "But we need a new train station, and a fresh road surface on our Autobahn, so we can't spare any money for the foreigners WHO ARE BEING INVADED AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES."
@@Scapestoat there are a lot people in Africa and Asia WHO ARE BEING INVADED AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES at this very moment. Didn't hear We stand with Palestine or We stand with Kurds or We stand with Belujah from you only We stand with Ukraine ... Why don't you support all of this suffering people ? It's 'cause you media didn't tell that to you and like a windvane you are heading only where you are forced to.
@@Scapestoat : You don’t understand Economics 101 . Please Read a Economics book you will realize Farmers are not Rocket scientists , Farmers Are subsidized Socialists.
In Canada, there is no tax on the diesel used for farm equipment and other off-road equipment. The nontaxable diesel had a red colour. By Law, all cars and trucks must have a section of the diesel line to the engine made of a see-through plastic. If a farmer is caught nontaxable red diesel in his car, he will have to pay a large fine and possible lose his right of tax-free diesel for his farming equipment!
I thought that the markets will regulate themselves? Demand and supply! The average taxpayer has to bear the full burden of paying everything off. Why no tax reduction for the folks that pay all the bills? Tax the rich!
They already own mote than half the real estate in the country and now they want cheap fuel not unlike the test of the German rabble who have to pay full price. Ugh.
At an average of £10,845 per acre of land value plus the value of their farm machinery, farmers have great wealth. To insist on public subsidy when for the last 30 years they have been asked to diversify (holiday homes etc...) only displays a stubborn refusal to adapt. Outside Germany in the UK king Charles still receives over £1 million per year in farm subsidies, the Duke of Westminster receives £300,000 in subsidies. If we democratically insist on agricultural subsidy, let us target small and medium farmers.
@@juamu1132 True farmers do not work ONLY for money! How is it possible that All mankind's activity is motivated only by money? Specially when money is created out of thin air??
Thank you, finally someone with a clear Mind! I thought I was the only one that thought these european farmers where extremely wealthy! My wife's parents are farmers as well, in europe and they are extremely wealthy although they love to pretend to be poor.
@@Fitandover40 ha you completely delusional.this happened in Japan at look at them now they were once an exporter of rice now a net importer.prepare to pay more for food! Those subsidies help keep the prices from skyrocketing now there gone they will raise the prices of food.
Oh, those poor farmers! The Netherlands has had this very movement in recent years, and they gained some political power. And big surprise; the new farmer's party is extreme right wing. And wouldn't you know it? The biggest group of millionaires in the country ... are farmers. Those poor farmers. Without subsidies, they won't have anywhere to store all their millions of euro!
@@ruppollock4392 How exactly do I benefit MOST? Does not everyone have to eat? Anyway, seeing as I am quite picky, I don't buy cheap food. I actually buy from local farmers - which you would think would be cheaper, as they don't have to transport it, but is actually more expensive. So I pay them a good price. I grow some of my own food, but I would need to rework the garden (that's the plan for this year!) to grow more. So in conclusion; Your comment sucked.
Id be curious to see what the comments said if food was valued in the store according to its real production value, whiteout subsides. Id guess many would start growing food 😅
That sounds like a great outcome though? the current situation is completely unsustainable, and cutting it is definitely for the best. There have been a lot of reports how these incentives make pretty destructive practices the most profitable. The only issue i see is how little time they've given the farmer to adapt. They've likely all planned for these subsidies to still be there in 2024, so they're most likely going to be forced to sell at significant loss until their current contracts expire. And thats going to ruin lives, which is never a good thing.
Less tax on fuel is not a subsidy , it is a tax ,now get rid of the tax and sell fuel without tax that subsidizes all kinds of social programs then we will see .
Independent farmers will have to sell everything, big corporations will buy everything up. Big corporations will then lobby ( aka bribe ) the politicians for subsidies and laxed regulations. The consumers will still pay more, and have bad quality food. Nestle wins.
People of India express deep concern regarding the plight of farmers of Germany and the hardship faced by Germans. We call upon German government to uphold the dignity and human rights of farmers immediately and restore the order in Germany.
You better read my report! New Zealand dairy product just got import tax free - "0 IMPORT TAX" into Asian Chinese market. So far, New Zealand & British Australia are the biggest agriculture products importers of the Asian Chinese market which is 1.6 billion population market. Where are the EU products in Asia market? There are lots of political marriages from New Zealand and China leaders, so New Zealand & Britsh Australia could win the market?
Instead of paying Ukraine and Israel with billions of dollars, fund these farmers; they will provide you with something in return. Do not use your taxes to fund others.
The failure of the EU to handle basic commodity allocation throughout Europe is pretty striking considering that's what the European Coal and Steel Community was founded to do. Romanian and Polish farmers blockading Ukraine and Dutch, French and now German farmers protesting their national governments all while munitions promises to Ukraine go unfulfilled. The EU looks completely illegitimate.
Respect, recognition, freedom to save the/their environment, tradition, culture, etc. My ancestor Jacklein Rohrbach was burned at the stake in 1525 because he wanted the German farmers to unite.
They are mad because now they have to pay for goods that tax payers took care of before. Like a kid throwing a tantrum because you won't buy them sweets at the grocery store for once.
What an misleading news, I have a plenty German friends and I talk with them daily, farmers is not angry at, all working people are angry, because they paid taxes all their lives,they worked hard to build that country and they don't receive services, stability, quality of life they been promised by their goverment. All the best to German people. Thank you. You are the country who makes a difference in Europe.
To be fair, starving millions to death will greatly reduce Germany's climate impact 😎 On a serious note this is a negotiation. A lot of people think this too far, thinking it a failure of farmers or a failure of the government. But it's not like the government fired all the farmers, or farmers decided to stop producing food. Farming subsidies are extremely important, and very complex. It makes sense that from time to time there are serious misunderstandings and differing views and interests. This is a negotiation.
Subsidies is like a drug. Sooner or later you develop a dependence. We have given agricultural subsidies to EU farmers for decades, and that has caused the land prices to rise. It has almost doubled over the last 20 years. But now the bubble is bursting and farmers find that they have invested too much in a risky business model. In the long run we need to replace EU subsidies with a mandatory self insurance, so farmers can save themselves.
This protest is a opportunity to explore biodiesel and -gas as optional fuel for farms. After subsidised investments the fuel will be nearly free of cost to farmers..😌🚜 it will also help food security and sustainebility. There is enough crop species and menure and waste to produce biobiesel and -gas for farms👍These are not solutions for bigger scale or substitute of electrification of transportation. Tractors are easily transformed to work with gas and biodiesel does not require modifications...
German farmers wanting to be exempt from trying to help the environment reminds me of American farmers paying lobbying groups to lobby for farmers' rights to pollute streams and rivers.
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Thanks for not framing them as far right like the majority of mainstream media tries to.
They complain diesel is not longer subsidized and paying workers at least the minimum wage is hard. Fine but this is a problem of income. Meaning they not get enough to pay all this. While at the same time consumers complain about high food prices. So what happens between consumers and farmers? Well the food industry. Monopolization, centralization, dividends. They syphoning off the money for stockholders and CEOs.
Well, you hit the nail on the head in your first sentence. Decreasing the tax on something that is heavily taxed is not to subsidize something, and farmers are heavily reliant on diesel.
Correct. Also keep in mind that most of the cereals produced in Germany (2022 41 million tonnes) are consumed by livestock so this has a direct impact on meat price. Meat production is also subsidized and while prices go up for the consumer, the farmers do not see the benefits of what we pay with taxes. Only the 3-4 big meat producers in Germany see gains year after year that are directly influenced by taxes. I wish that we could directly consume meat only from local producers and in a more direct connection with the source, but that would mean a complete reeducation of consumer habits and the expectation of consuming less meat, day to day.
@ Why have meat prices doubled suddenly last year if meat production was subsidized?
Nothing else ever increased in price by that much in a single day.
Well, no one said it is not a problem of income, the point is the same - the government is working in service of capitalists and not protecting the working class.
And yet I see no farmers blocking Nestle factories and the like because they know they'd lose that battle. Farmers rather antagonize tax payers than the rich.
“Don’t bite the hand that feeds you”
If there was ever evidence that politicians are out of touch, this is it. There’s an old saying in America stemming from the service industry-”You don’t mess with the ppl that handle your food.”
someone should tell that to Modi
Exactly!!! You do realize farmers get free money in diesel subsidies? Agriculture has the highest subsidies in Germany compared to everything else. They should be thanking the government. Now it's time to pay the government back with farming on electricity instead of diesel.
They aren't biting thou. They are simply not subsidizing which is basically giving them free money.
Farmers should learn to play fair like the rest of the people who buy diesel.
Agricultural matters are decided in the EU. Since the EU themselves have decided to give huge subsidies to EU-farmers (french sector is even bigger) Because they want to keep the competition outside the EU out. Subsidies exist because EU needs its own share of food security also. @@Joey-ct8bm
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you"
So, don't block the roads of the taxpayers who pay your subsidies?
So, don't harass the citizens who pay for your fuel through tax money?
So, don't complain about not having to pay taxes to the people who literally pay their taxes for you?
I cringe with urban people complaining about Farmers having high value equipment, believing food comes from the supermarket. Farming in the West isn't profitable without being partially subsided. Since production costs are high, Labor, equipment, harvesting is conditioned by weather conditions. Even so, it's important for a country to feed it self than being dependable on imports.
That's not really a fair representation, is it?
It is not the "expensive equipment". It is the owning large amount of valuable land, large amounts of valuable equipment, AND on top of that, having millions of euro in the bank.
Sure "not all farmers" are fabulously wealthy, but if you look at all the millionaires in the country, and you sort them by occupation, guess who the biggest group is? That's right, farmers.
And as for "why don't city folk start their own farm?"; well, maybe they don't have GOLDEN BUCKETS OF MONEY to buy all that land?
@@Scapestoat "having millions of euro in the bank." - how many independent farmers have spare millions in the bank ?
" valuable land, large amounts of valuable equipment" - that took generations of hard work to acquire.
Do you even know how much the monthly payments for equipment cost ? Then the fuel, fertilizer, energy for storage, equipment maintenance, etc. ? Do you even know how much one lite of hydraulic oil costs ? Or one tire for a tractor ?
Two years of drought or two years of heavy rain in a row, and there go the "millions in the bank".
And who will then complain about high food prices ? That's right , "smart" guys like you.
The farmer lifestyle isn’t for lazy people. The German people got a big mouth, but when you talk about hard work ….
@@scratchy996 That's a lot of opinionated nonsense. You very much sound like a farmer who wants more subsidies.
When you start an argument with someone on the internet, maybe you shouldn't assume that they know nothing about anything.
People know a lot more than you think.
You just end up looking childish, for all to see.
you mistake landowners and farmers. Most rent the land they work on @@Scapestoat
Here in Montana we do not tax agricultural fuel.
Just remember, you can live without Politicians but cannot live without farmers.
You can live from products of foreign farmers.
@@markmd9Being entirely reliant on other countries for your food is not a good idea.
They just want to sell their products to the highest bidders
You can farm with electric vehicles though. You can farm without diesel at all. Which is paid by diesel subsidies. Which is free money they got from the government. Put that money in clean farming instead. Seems perfectly normal to me.
@@Joey-ct8bm No you cannot, you simply haven't got a clue. Have you ever set foot outside the city..?
This is exactly why government should be wary of subsidization. Taking people off of it is like trying to break a drug addict from drug addiction.
Truly spoken. The farmers already are getting 30 to 40 percent of their income from subsidies.
Just like the entire welfare system.
They should be thanking the government for years of free diesel. Agriculture is the most subsidized out of everything.
@@halberderdier8073 Not just subidies. They also don't have to pay as much taxes as every other citizen. And they also don't have to pay as much for gas as the rest.
Why do we have to pay subsidies, their taxes, and their fuel? If they are so self-sufficient, then they should be paying it themselves.
You do realize that without subsidies, you wouldn't have food, right? It's not like farmers are pharmaceutical companies raking in cash.
Thank you for your unbiased report about whats going in in this country!
'Angry farmers' vs happy / corrupt journalists !
The levels of disregard of the political class towards the working class people, especially farmers is really astonomical. The government is the enemy!!!
There is in fact some sort of war on food going on.
The system is the enemy. Government are just useful puppets.
Family farms are being squeezed out. Property taxes are getting insane here in America
It's a kind of a Deja Vu moment - a few years ago Canada and prior to that, India jad similar protests.
just go green deindustrialise and import all your food what could go wrong become a service economy where you serve each other coffee and you can pretend it is a real economy
Even with subsidies without protectionist practices against imports most farms in the EU and US would be dead. The champions of so called free market will not allow cheaper countries to come in with products the government doesn't have to subsidize...
" cheaper countries to come in with products" - there is a reason why others produce cheaper, they produce low quality.
The Eu can't control the quality of imported food, and no one wants to depend on foreign blackmail opportunities.
Look at what happened to the UK during ww2.
@@scratchy996Ha ha, free market they said and teached other countries))
There’s a reason. It’s called “self-sufficiency”
We can survive without cheap electronics from China. We CAN’T survive without FOOD
Disagree...The US is one of the world's top exporters of agra products...The US dumped grains in Mexico and collapsed domestic prices a year ago
@@moogman5 With a few exceptions, like this one you just gave, subsidies give such an advantage that they can compete on the world market
No farmers no food, i support from India
No buyers, no market for farmers to sell in. And just fyi, if the existing farmers stop doing their jobs others would fill in & start working as farmers. And that would be more profitable for the new farmers as there would be less competition.
@@cerveauy8782 you just cant replace the farmers of germany or just a country. do you people ever use ur brain?
@@cerveauy8782 No buyer!! It's not a Chinese mobile phone without which you can live.
Threatening to provide no food; jailtime. And someone else farming instead.
@@Scapestoat i think you haven't seen a field in your entire life.
I support German farmers over anything. My German families farm in Colorado.
In New Zealand our farmers do not get subsidies. If a farmer here can not make money he gets out of farming.
😂😂what if all your farmers get out of farming in your country??. Where will you get the food??. So you are going to depend entirely on foreign country for food??? Like in Middle East???
We export around the world. We have one of the biggest dairy companies. Checkout New Zealand farming. No farmer receives a subsidy. As I say if they can't make money they sell to those that can.@@irose4066
German Farmers also feed a population that is almost 17 times that of New Zealand... with roughly comparable % of Agricultural land expressed as a % of the nations total landmass.
Trying to explain the free market to communists is a waste of time.
Eat imported food? God know what issues we will have in terms of FOOD SAFETY!! Are we willing to take that chance????
If the farmers go broke and the people have no bread, let them eat cake.
No farmers no food!
Threatening to starve people = jailtime.
More than 60 years ago, Canada has put in place a system of supply control for three agricultural products: milk, eggs, and chicken!
This system of supply control was put in place to protect Canadian farmers against dumping from the United States!
Each farmer is an assign quota of production, and in return the farmer has a guaranty price for his product. The guaranty price is set at a level that ensures profitable and sustainable farm production. Important, there are absolutely no subsidies from the government.
The Canadians citizens have accepted to pay a little more for milk (and related by-products), for eggs and for chickens.
This system of supply control is working perfectly. During the last free-trade negotiations with Europe, Canada had to fight hard to maintain the system of supply control for milk, eggs and chickens!
Those quotas can be sold. For many farmers, selling their quotas financed their retirements!
In other words a subsidy.
@@samanthaw4955Every western country subsidies it's farmers one way or another, so what's your point?
@@samanthaw4955
Subsidy is when money flow from the government to farmers!
In Canada, the Canadians have the constitutional right to spend their money without government interference !
Traffic light government will tell farmers to avoid using diesel...
It would not be good for Germany to decease it's agricultural production, given the current situation in the world.
@WojtekPordzik-zr2vt
Global supply chains are breaking down
because of the current geopolitical
situation. If a country can not produce
enough food to feed itself, it will have
problems.
Germany has had to import food since
the 1800's. But the less food it has to
import the better.
@WojtekPordzik-zr2vt
Poland is in a tough spot being located
between Germany and Russia.
@WojtekPordzik-zr2vt
Kind of hard to defend the European
plain (steppe).
Is it really a subsidy if they are just giving back some of what they took?
Yes, taxes aren't theft - even if you disagree with the incumbent government.
Yes, that's what a subsidy is.
Farmers already make 30-40% of their income from subsidies. The whole system needs to be overhauled.
Maybe they could just stop taxing the diesel then they won't need a subsidy to get some of that tax back.
Adapt or perish. Farmers are holding the government to ransom is hardly surprising. They have a disproportionate amount of power and it is costing everyday people the policies that governments have enacted to "protect" and win favour with farmers.
While the government subsidises farmers to keep food prices low this isn't free money. It's money that the tax payer coughs up or it's taken from schools, hospitals, police etc. As farmers are subsidised they have no incentive to to push for efficiency. Low yields....just throw an abundance of fertiliser at the problem then complain about the guy down the road who is doing it for cheaper so price caps get set in place. Look at Northern Ireland, farms pissed cheap fertiliser rather than using it sparingly causing run off and algae blooms in Lough Neigh. Politicians turn a blind eye as they don't want to loose the farm community vote.
Food prices wouldn't be high if they didn't block the grain coming from Ukraine. These protectionist policies for local farmers are the root cause of many problems we are seeing today.
For context this is something that needs to happen and I point to New Zealand and what they done back in the 70's. it's farm sectors is one of the strongest and best quality out there.
Yes the transition can be handled better and Farmers are some of the most talented and skilful people in our economy due to the many many skills running a farm forces them to learn. They are more than capable of adjust and adapting, especially if the government clearly lays out a transition plan and works with the farmers to help them adjust eg. changing planning laws, helping fund projects to reduce costs, settling laws in place that allow the farmer freedom to be stewards of the land as it's in their interest to work with nature. Make it easier for them to monitor and correct issues rather than micromanaging them into oblivion.
Let them eat cake
The German Government takes subsidy off Agriculture and pledges funds for Ukraine in an era of high gas prices.
The logic behind these actions are sinister.
Sinister, as in, you're a farmer, and you don't want to have some of your free money taken away, to be given to people who have more need than you?
They also take 100 thousands of illegal immigrants and give them free money.
@@Scapestoat Many places in Germany are in need of new infrastructures. Doesn't make sense still. The Ukrainians collecting €1.5k monthly is not enough, right?
@@obrien9672 What are you saying, exactly?
Because it sounds a bit like you're saying "But we need a new train station, and a fresh road surface on our Autobahn, so we can't spare any money for the foreigners WHO ARE BEING INVADED AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES."
@@Scapestoat there are a lot people in Africa and Asia WHO ARE BEING INVADED AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES at this very moment. Didn't hear We stand with Palestine or We stand with Kurds or We stand with Belujah from you only We stand with Ukraine ... Why don't you support all of this suffering people ? It's 'cause you media didn't tell that to you and like a windvane you are heading only where you are forced to.
0:48 for a second there I thought my video had turnd into 480 resolution...
No farm no food
They don't want extra taxes to pay for net zero and green policies
no fossil fuel subsidies for the euro-weenies.
POWER OF PEOPLE !!!! 🙏👍💪💚
Cut the subsidies and just rise the prices. If you need subsidies to survive your farm is a failure.
Mmm
No farms. No food
Is that really the slogan they choose to go with?
It is threatening harm upon the population. Which is kinda really illegal. And can lead to jailtime.
@@Scapestoat: import from Latin America 1/3 the price 😂 . Those subsidized farmers should not bite the Taxpayers hand that Feeds them !
@@ProfessorFickle Heh. That sounds like the response to the Russian Oil blackmail. Maybe we _should_ make that the default response. XD
@@Scapestoat : You don’t understand Economics 101 .
Please Read a Economics book you will realize Farmers are not Rocket scientists , Farmers Are subsidized Socialists.
In Canada, there is no tax on the diesel used for farm equipment and other off-road equipment.
The nontaxable diesel had a red colour. By Law, all cars and trucks must have a section of the diesel line to the engine made of a see-through plastic.
If a farmer is caught nontaxable red diesel in his car, he will have to pay a large fine and possible lose his right of tax-free diesel for his farming equipment!
Farm diesel absolutely has tax on it. In Alberta only 9 cents worth of road tax is not added and the federal carbon tax.
I thought that the markets will regulate themselves? Demand and supply! The average taxpayer has to bear the full burden of paying everything off. Why no tax reduction for the folks that pay all the bills? Tax the rich!
Exactly, the farmers are part of the rich!
@@quentinmunich9819keep talking and ur getting no food lil bro
@@ismaeliafa: Fact: farmers are socialists .
Farmers bite the taxpayers hands.
They already own mote than half the real estate in the country and now they want cheap fuel not unlike the test of the German rabble who have to pay full price. Ugh.
They do seem greedy here.
At an average of £10,845 per acre of land value plus the value of their farm machinery, farmers have great wealth. To insist on public subsidy when for the last 30 years they have been asked to diversify (holiday homes etc...) only displays a stubborn refusal to adapt. Outside Germany in the UK king Charles still receives over £1 million per year in farm subsidies, the Duke of Westminster receives £300,000 in subsidies.
If we democratically insist on agricultural subsidy, let us target small and medium farmers.
ok then prepare to start importing food. no farmer will want to work the fields anymore.
@@juamu1132 True farmers do not work ONLY for money! How is it possible that All mankind's activity is motivated only by money? Specially when money is created out of thin air??
Thank you, finally someone with a clear Mind! I thought I was the only one that thought these european farmers where extremely wealthy! My wife's parents are farmers as well, in europe and they are extremely wealthy although they love to pretend to be poor.
@@Fitandover40 ha you completely delusional.this happened in Japan at look at them now they were once an exporter of rice now a net importer.prepare to pay more for food! Those subsidies help keep the prices from skyrocketing now there gone they will raise the prices of food.
@@juamu1132 do you even know how money is created?? I bet you have no clue lol, a mindless AI that just follows what its told.
So more money for Ukraine, Israel, and all welfare
It’s crazy to think u have to convice the government that FOOD is more important then it getting a bit warmer 🤦♂️
German, There is no German anymore, There is Israeli lovers. Not sure happened to German and German society
There are some Neo and germanic tribes still left
As a french i see that as cultural appropriation.
To show my anger i will protest next week
Food security. Germany first.
"5 cent increase on beer doesn't sound like much but it's all in all 1€ (1,1$) more per day" german farmer
:p
Such a dumb move in turning off your reactors. Either way you'll bring them back when you have a new ruling party soon enough.
Oh, those poor farmers!
The Netherlands has had this very movement in recent years, and they gained some political power. And big surprise; the new farmer's party is extreme right wing.
And wouldn't you know it? The biggest group of millionaires in the country ... are farmers.
Those poor farmers. Without subsidies, they won't have anywhere to store all their millions of euro!
Says the one benefiting the most from cheap food.
@@ruppollock4392 How exactly do I benefit MOST?
Does not everyone have to eat?
Anyway, seeing as I am quite picky, I don't buy cheap food.
I actually buy from local farmers - which you would think would be cheaper, as they don't have to transport it, but is actually more expensive. So I pay them a good price.
I grow some of my own food, but I would need to rework the garden (that's the plan for this year!) to grow more.
So in conclusion;
Your comment sucked.
Id be curious to see what the comments said if food was valued in the store according to its real production value, whiteout subsides. Id guess many would start growing food 😅
That sounds like a great outcome though?
the current situation is completely unsustainable, and cutting it is definitely for the best. There have been a lot of reports how these incentives make pretty destructive practices the most profitable.
The only issue i see is how little time they've given the farmer to adapt. They've likely all planned for these subsidies to still be there in 2024, so they're most likely going to be forced to sell at significant loss until their current contracts expire. And thats going to ruin lives, which is never a good thing.
Less tax on fuel is not a subsidy , it is a tax ,now get rid of the tax and sell fuel without tax that subsidizes all kinds of social programs then we will see .
In portugal diesel is 85 cents at the pump with taxes 1.68 euros - for farmers it is at 1.35 euros . that is not a subsidy .
Independent farmers will have to sell everything, big corporations will buy everything up.
Big corporations will then lobby ( aka bribe ) the politicians for subsidies and laxed regulations.
The consumers will still pay more, and have bad quality food.
Nestle wins.
Import Food from Mexico 🇲🇽 or Brazil 🇧🇷 half price including transportation costs 😂😂😂😂
All the urbanites complaining about these protests are the epitome of "biting the hand that feeds you".
They want free lunch, free diesel and free healthcare... That is all
no migration and money to Ukraine
God bless, be strong, we are with you, all the way from Texas, USA. Been to Berlin in 2008! Best wishes, we will be watching!!!!!
People of India express deep concern regarding the plight of farmers of Germany and the hardship faced by Germans.
We call upon German government to uphold the dignity and human rights of farmers immediately and restore the order in Germany.
तू कौन है भइ? प्रेसिडेन्ट इन्डिया का? 😂
@@holysong2099 तेरा बाप
बस दिखा ली अपनी औकात? चल अब आगे बढ़ जा। @@politics4304
Support to farmers from india,punjab
You better read my report! New Zealand dairy product just got import tax free - "0 IMPORT TAX" into Asian Chinese market. So far, New Zealand & British Australia are the biggest agriculture products importers of the Asian Chinese market which is 1.6 billion population market. Where are the EU products in Asia market? There are lots of political marriages from New Zealand and China leaders, so New Zealand & Britsh Australia could win the market?
Pls don’t educate EU people. EU countries not care about Chinese market , they only care Chinese human rights and political issue.
Instead of paying Ukraine and Israel with billions of dollars, fund these farmers; they will provide you with something in return. Do not use your taxes to fund others.
That is different. Funding Ukraine and Israel might have rebate to those government members, Funding farmers getting nothing .
Subtitle: "When do German farmers want it?"
The failure of the EU to handle basic commodity allocation throughout Europe is pretty striking considering that's what the European Coal and Steel Community was founded to do. Romanian and Polish farmers blockading Ukraine and Dutch, French and now German farmers protesting their national governments all while munitions promises to Ukraine go unfulfilled. The EU looks completely illegitimate.
I love farmers and hate subsidies
Why TF are you standing there??? Can't you move to a quieter place? What is wrong with you reporters!
you mean like a place where there is no protest? I mean thats what the report is all about…..😂
Horses don’t need diesel
What do German's farmers want?
Ghost?
Respect, recognition, freedom to save the/their environment, tradition, culture, etc. My ancestor Jacklein Rohrbach was burned at the stake in 1525 because he wanted the German farmers to unite.
Diesel subsidies?? They are mad at something they got for free!?
They are mad because now they have to pay for goods that tax payers took care of before. Like a kid throwing a tantrum because you won't buy them sweets at the grocery store for once.
The subsidy for Diesel is scheduled to be cancelled.
@@halberderdier8073
Over the timespan of three years...
Then take the subsidy off other road users
What an misleading news, I have a plenty German friends and I talk with them daily, farmers is not angry at, all working people are angry, because they paid taxes all their lives,they worked hard to build that country and they don't receive services, stability, quality of life they been promised by their goverment. All the best to German people. Thank you. You are the country who makes a difference in Europe.
I remember British cow farmers saga.
Are the protest organizers in Germany very shy and enigmatic, like in other parts of Europe?
To be fair, starving millions to death will greatly reduce Germany's climate impact 😎
On a serious note this is a negotiation. A lot of people think this too far, thinking it a failure of farmers or a failure of the government.
But it's not like the government fired all the farmers, or farmers decided to stop producing food.
Farming subsidies are extremely important, and very complex. It makes sense that from time to time there are serious misunderstandings and differing views and interests. This is a negotiation.
Dutch farmers , now german farmers, french farmers still enjoy rebates though .
Romanian farmers
The problem is over consumtion.
Have the fuel company change into lubricants needed for equipment at a daily basis to increase fleet service workers! That a different form of union.
BILLIONS FOR UKRAINE AND THE MILITARY AND CUTS FOR FARMERS SUBSIDIES 😂
German farmers want Bayern Munich to stop dominating the league hahahaha
What do farmers want, to grow their already high money wins.
They literally feed the society
Subsidies is like a drug. Sooner or later you develop a dependence.
We have given agricultural subsidies to EU farmers for decades, and that has caused the land prices to rise. It has almost doubled over the last 20 years.
But now the bubble is bursting and farmers find that they have invested too much in a risky business model.
In the long run we need to replace EU subsidies with a mandatory self insurance, so farmers can save themselves.
some time ago there were talks about hunger.... Someone is creating the situation for that... Guess, who it might be?
All they want is free money
Germany is funding Ukraine but not its farmers.
Germany is funding both . farmers can organize themselves so they dont need it.
Says the Putin-minion who wants to take over Ukraine.
It's not all or nothing. Do you not acknowledge that the government already dropped some of their measures?
Europe need new politicians who aren’t controlled by Washington.
Europe needs people that are not controlled by the kremlin.@@jasip1000
TIP to the Germans: Buy your food from Brazil instead!
cows fart too much
This is the effect of sanctions against Russia.
No it’s not but part of it is caused by letting in low grade Ukrainian imports as well as funding the war
This protest is a opportunity to explore biodiesel and -gas as optional fuel for farms. After subsidised investments the fuel will be nearly free of cost to farmers..😌🚜 it will also help food security and sustainebility.
There is enough crop species and menure and waste to produce biobiesel and -gas for farms👍These are not solutions for bigger scale or substitute of electrification of transportation. Tractors are easily transformed to work with gas and biodiesel does not require modifications...
Free healthcare and education has its cost.
Those are really expensive toys to be protesting with. I hope their insurance companies know what they are doing?
Just a wait a little bit until Spring comes around, they wont be wasting money putting tractors in the streets.
The chanting at the back is disturbing
I think it would be great if the government could start paying me to work too?
If they can't grain farm, try beef on the fields. Meat is our only natural nourishing food required for health and longevity.
Democracy end in Germany?
We are tired of being dictated to by the elites. Who don’t mind sacrificing us on their pet altars.
What's that got to do with German farmers?
@@halberderdier8073 Control the food you enslave the people. Something Elites around the world are well aware of.
Average socialist government...
"Even more trillions in taxpayer money and be allowed to pollute without limits"
Wrong . Farmers pay tax on that fuel that pays for all kinds of social programs . Jesus people are so misinformed .
10 thousand more like 100 thousand citizens
They just seem greedy.
German farmers wanting to be exempt from trying to help the environment reminds me of American farmers paying lobbying groups to lobby for farmers' rights to pollute streams and rivers.
People want cheap available food
You may survive on water and air alone but others need food in order to survive
german agriculture is the only sector that actually manages to meet climate goals, WHILE burning diesel. But keep on babbling
Yeah farmers are not the dainty little sweethearts they'd like you to believe.
Learn to become more competitive instead of crying for lavish government handouts.
Remove subsidies for farmers and send billions to Ukraine. Scholz is such a failure. das Scheitern
Hi DW team, please support farmer protest as you supported indian farmers protest 3 years back. Farmers are Farmers irrespective of their skin colour.
мммм.... главное же на Украину деньги отправить и побольше мигрантов в Германию впустить, немцы такие добрые )))
The German Farmer Wants The African Agriculture Union To Come Back An Free Up The Demand Of New Agricultural Sectors *
Welfare and freebies
Stand with farmers ❤ from India
Hold on aren't Europe government say government help not allowed for fair competition? they want to investigate other country industry.