Winter Cup 2024
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2024
- Winter Cup 2024
It happened! Check out podium training podcast here and the photos here. We discuss:
While everyone else was competing at Winter Cup, Kayla DiCello was competing at Olympic Trials
What Suni had to say about her performance after the meet, and what this means for her Baku World Cup chances
What missing this meet means for Gabby Douglas and her road to an Olympic team
Trinity Thomas hit four for four and got her championships qualifying score
Plus, all the most Winter Cuppiest moments-and also some highlights
An update from Cottbus, the second of four apparatus qualifiers for the Olympics, including the current Chuso alert level, the latest Kaylia Nemour upgrade, Zhang Yihan new skill (clear hip layout tkatchev) and who's leading in points.
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What a splatfest this meet was. I'm still so happy for Dicello. Have always liked her gymnastics and always thought she was pretty overlooked in the media. She showed she is a big contender for Paris. Still too early and too many falls to really guess who is gonna be on that team.
Too early, too many falls, and too many people who we haven't seen this season yet and know very little about where they're at (Gabby, Jordan, Jade, Leanne), and still lots of missing info about Suni and about Skye's upgrades too!
Are we sure this was the Winter Cup?! Gimme a pumpkin spice latte, because it felt like the FALL Cup to me... xD But you gotta love how Kayla was like... "Welcome to the Kayla DiCello Cup!"
*KAYLA DICELLO WAS FABULOUS!!!*
I haven't been thinking of Kayla DiCello as a realistic Olympic team member. But after this competition - and reflecting on her performance at last fall's Winter Cup, which she also won - it seems she's steadily been building her case. As an all-arounder, she has sufficient difficulty and is reliably competition-ready, much like Jordan Chiles, Leanne Wong, Kyla Ross, etc.
Her win at PanAms last fall was an especially big deal, showed she can score well internationally (though the Winter Cup scoring was definitely inflated, I think Kayla could break 56 internationally on her best day, but would typically be high 55s).
She deserves to be on the team. If anything at the least an alternate.
@erinm9445 last panams where more harsh than worlds
@@GloriaKabahuma On which event? They certainly weren't on floor, the event I remember the PanAms scoring best.
Kayla is now a two time All-Around winner. Don’t underestimate her talent….hoping she has a legitimate shot at Paris!
Seriously I was like…someone check the podium under that mat where they dismounted beam! So many crashes!
I can see this scenario playing out. Even tho Suni had a rough competition at Winter Cup if she hits at Classics, National Championships and Olympic Trials and it comes down to Suni Vs Kayla to make the Team I would choose Suni. No matter what I believe if Kayla continues to be consistent she will be a traveling Alternate for the Team
I hate to say this but I agree with Sam Peszek when she expressed “all the falls”. There was SO MANY FALLS. Should have this competition in October instead of February and call it The Fall Cup.
I know I’m playing with fire saying this but, Sam Peszek competed around a time where the gymnastics quality was much better. Anytime after 2016, the quality sunk a lot.
Stock way way up for Kayla. It's not just that her execution was good, it's the increased difficulty and start values. I could finally see value in using her in team finals 3 up 3 count in multiple events. If Skye gets a solid Cheung, that helps Kayla too (and hurts the Jades and Josces that's main selling point is a difficult vault). My way too early Olympic team is Simone, Shilese, Skye, Kayla, and a battle for 5th (Josc, suni, lincoln, etc). Honestly, with just those first four, you could comfortably compete any of them in any team final event and be 14+ with a hit.
Can’t forget Gabby
Skye just needs to work up that consistency but rooting for her
Kayla probably can't score 14+ internationally on beam, and I think she could only break 14 internationally on floor on her best day. But hey, that's true of Shilese too, and Shilese for floor too, and she was in the worlds floor lineup last year, and no one thought she shouldn't be there!
@erinm9445 if she cleans her leg form she will coz this a beam with 6.0 dscore she can got 14.6 if she is clean
Gabby left woga?😮 where will she be training now?? 😢
The gymnasts don’t owe you interviews. They are there to be gymnasts. If they don’t feel up to it mentally, that’s their choice. They shouldn’t have to tell you how they’re feeling it’s their business.
And they don't get to complain when no one cares what they do.
Leanne, Skye, or Kayla? Yea that’s a great question. I am still going with Leanne, mostly because she’s my favorite and I think she has been pacing herself very intentionally and will comeback strong in the spring. Kayla would be the favorite today, was super impressive in this competition. Skye has so much potential and could definitely slay by championships. Too bad there couldn’t be an NCAA team going to the Olympics as well as USA 😂because we could field a very competitive team with Leanne, Jade, Jordan, Kayla, Grace, etc., I know it would never happen but we have way too many great gymnasts to field only one team. 😞
OMG, I love the idea of an NCAA olympic team 😂 Would sort of solve the overly stacked US roster problem!
Wouldn't Jordan also be in the convo for 3rd AA, assuming she can come back in something like 2022 form? (Which, given that she's taking a gap year from school and training elite full time, I'm hoping she will)
I think out of those 3 they’ll take Kayla. Potentially Leanne. I don’t think they’ll take Skye anymore.
I’m commenting before I watch the video, but I hope they make an update on the latest news about Gabby Douglas LEAVING WOGA.
At this point, I would be surprised if Gabby makes the Olympic Team.
She’s not the one seen busting her ass on skills she had been training on so idk what makes you say that.
Gabby caught covid that isn’t her fault .. she can still get assignments through camp in April/May this year USAG will keep her in the mix.
Kayla is good enough on vault with her DTY that she could try to pull a second vault from a different family to help increase her chances. She did fantastic and her bars have drastically improved.
I disagree with Jessica's comment that the US MAG team has to 'talk to the media' if they want to be Olympic champions. If you preach about mental health, you should keep that in mind when athletes put themselves first over interviews that can be done later. It may seem like a weird choice to some, and USAG should for sure work with them on media training, but please, have a little empathy for the MAG team members who declined to talk to the press back in 2022.
if suni or simone would have blown off the media she would have said that was the greatest thing ever lol
@@SonOfAGun1814 I agree with you. Very much a bias on Jessica’s end. She can’t be critical with the females. Very very inappropriate bias.
@@TommyWiseauu She won't get any interviews if she calls out the women and no one cares about the men
@TommyWiseauu Ah yes, "the females." But isn't there a much more important point than whether or not she's biased in whom she expects to face the media? That point, which is also the one OP clearly articulated, is whether that's a reasonable expectation of anyone in the first place. I agree with OP that it is not, which renders analysis of its application moot.
@@taryntothet5602 that proves a bias.
Poor Suni I really hope she gets out of her head cause she is really good and can be so much better !
Alot of falls. It's early though. Dichello did great if she keeps it up she can be a valuable member of the Olympic team.
I knew when she was hitting the skill on her warmups and hadn't missed one that she was gonna fall in competition. Sometimes you just need one splat to get it out of your head otherwise you get too comfortable. I love Suni so much and was so sad for her, but it's early. And she has only had 5-6 weeks of real training. She'll be alright.
Eh, she's only been back in the gym full time for 5 weeks. I don't think Winter Cup should be taken as evidence that she's in her head. She's pretty tenacious, one of those people where her mistkes just make her come out stronger and more determined later. I've also heard others say that in past years it's been common for her to have a shakey first meet or two of the season, she tends to get stronger as she goes.
My 'No-Maj' dad when we watch gymnastics: "they shouldn't be allowed a spotter on bars. They are professionals, they shouldn't need that" 😑
double twisting front layout is a tarasevich
Suni has only been training for 6 weeks? I don't believe that. When she was getting all those videos out and making the skills, there was nothing about her training for 6 weeks. So what is the real truth here? Anyways, tomorrow is a new day for Suni.
Just excuses.. now if Gabby was seen busting her ass on shit she was shown to be hitting in training would they have an excuse how she had been gone from the sport for 8 YEARS?
We ALL saw how badly gabby was treated when she had a poor showing at trials when she fell to 7th place!
I don’t buy it either.
She's been working on that skill for years, many of those videos were older. I also don't think she was saying she hasn't been in the gym at all until 5 weeks ago, but rather that she wasn't able to train at full capacity until 5 weeks ago. You know, because her chronic health issue was flaring really badly last fall? Enough that she withdrew from worlds selection camp?
@@HazelAmarie Gabby was treated poorly back then, yes. That's not going to happen now, not in the gymnastics world anyway (I can't speak for the general public). Everyone in gym world is over the moon about her comeback and super supportive.
But just excuses? Holy hell. Woman has a chonic health condition that was flaring so bad last fall that she withdrew from worlds contention, but I guess that's not enough for you?
6weeks like every day like she was in and out of the gym
32 falls…I counted 😭
I'd marry Spencer - so adorable!
Double tuck front is an E not D
1:03:22 Becky Downey
Suni was amazing, really. For 6 weeks of training?
Omfg no she wasnt. Suni shit show
Men’s Winter Cup has been a splatfest for years. Now we’re seeing the women do the same. Normal for this early. Kayla looks great but I hope she doesn’t peak too early.
A line of stuffed animals in leos. It's right there USAG. #ChellsieMammals
Kaliya Lincoln had a hit routine at Pan Ams and scored in the 12s. She isn't making this Olympic team based on her balance beam.
Front double full is a D
8:16 I don’t blame the men ignoring media y’all sit up and throw shade and digs at them individually about there performances all year F YALL
I wish Spencer would turn it down a little. Take the knob, turn it from 10 to 7
Drunk gym moms? Was that supposed to be shade? High level kids are doing skills that could maim or kill them. It’s really not a good time for us to be drunk. Maybe it’s time for us to commission an episode on what gym families actually experience.
I wish people would stop pretending the scores at US Nationals have anything to do with the way a gymnast will be scored internationally. Josc received 14 plus at the World Cups but got a 13.6 at the World Championships. Even competitions like the Pan-Ams Games does not mean those scores will happen at a Worlds or Olympics. The international judges seem to follow the suit of US Nationals when it comes to the top two (Simone and whoever always getting the benefit) but the rest of the team never scores as high. A good example is Leanne and Kayla in 2021. They were the top 2 gymnasts and were scored accordingly but the world's judges in 2023 treated Leanne like she was a third-stringer. And she is a WORLD ALL AROUND MEDALIST. Kayla would have probably been treated the same way. So choosing a team based on US judging would be the wrong thing to do.
Gymcastic only promotes the gymnasts that can get them some attention. It's as disturbing as Inside Gymnastics promoting only Suni, Gabby, and Trinity, the gymnasts they have interviews on. There are no morals in the media anymore.
Josc got 14+ in world cups, and that was legitimate. She scored 13.6 because of the big balance error in wolf turn and large step forward & short landing for her last pass. Her worlds floor podium training is 14+ level. The US judges are still licensed judges.
Also, your statement is contradictory. "people should stop pretending the scores at US Nationals have anything to do with the way a gymnast will be scored internationally." and "The international judges seem to follow the suit of US Nationals when it comes to the top two" LMAO....
The whole setup was disappointing, looked like a High School meet.
No one new stood out. As usual...skye fell in competition....I’m starting to think we’re going to see skye fall AT LEAST once in every competition. Yeah she came in 2nd but she’s not consistent and can’t be counted on. It’s sad cause Skye has potential to be a medalist in worlds and Olympics but because she’s inconsistent, she probably won’t make Paris. She proved that at worlds both years.
Suni....did not do well AT ALL....she was talked up so much to give us subpar routines..her routine barely had any tumbling. ALOT of fancy split jumps and few layout step outs…THATS IT FROM A GOLD MEDALIST. The public has proven she’s a favorite, my question is…why? *yawn*
trinity did well, not spectacular but she did well. Kayla did great, she should see an Olympic team member at the very least as an alternate. She’s proven she should have been a contender for Worlds 2023 and Skye should have been the alternate. I view Skye as more talented than Kayla but because Kayla is consistent and Skye isn’t, Kayla will probably be named to Paris over Skye.
Suni is all hype honestly … these people be quick to hype her up over black gymnasts.
@@HazelAmarieI don’t disagree…her beam routine is boring and full of split leaps and jumps and basic tumbling that we see all the other elites doing. I scratch my head when people express how impressive her beam routine is and I’m like “this is what you find impressive for a gold medalist?!”
Unfortunately Skye is impressive BUT she’s so damn inconsistent. She has talent but at the end of the day consistency BEATS talent and that will be the reason why she doesn’t make the Olympic team. She’ll be beaten out by either Kayla or Leanne, 2 athletes who I don’t think are as talented as Skye but are way more reliable when it comes to hitting routines.
Weird flex to get your kicks out of dragging a bunch of amazing professional gymnasts online, all of whom can do skills on their worst day that you could never dream of doing.
@@erinm9445 professional athletes of all kinds get criticism. Please go kick rocks.
@@HazelAmarieshe is better than most black people🙄 wth
Y’all quick to throw expectations at Gabby yet got hella sympathy & excuses for Suni the racism loud and apparent. I want better for Suni yet if gabby would’ve preformed like that it would’ve been no sympathy for her as we’ve seen yet y’all spare the non-blacks.
shut up you’re embarrassing us
Um, Suni has been training for 6 weeks and Gabby has been training for 2 years so yeah... You need to quit projecting your dark skinned insecurities on everyone else. Get a grip. Pun not intended 😂
They are ridiculous. Oh it's just Winter Cup they said when their faves don't perform to expectation.
@@chimao215Is there anyone whose performance they criticized as though it were NOT just Winter Cup?
Myopic. Let's overlook how they tapped Trinity Thomas as the athlete of the competition, and fawned over Skye Blakely and Kaliya Lincoln.