This Unexploded Sidewinder Missile Got Stuck in a MiG-17 and Mailed to the Soviets

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2020
  • The American Sidewinder missile was unlike any other at the time. The Soviet Union and China envied the weapon’s capabilities, as it allowed a U.S.-armed Taiwan to successfully take down MiG fighter aircraft by the end of 1958
    However, their jealousy did not last long after one of the American-made missiles failed to detonate when it met a Chinese plane. Safely lodged intact and sticking out of the fuselage, the Sidewinder would soon be delivered to the Soviets. By reverse-engineering the weapon, the USSR would make it accessible to the Warsaw Pact, enraging the Americans.
    Not content with their initial intellectual theft, the Soviets would later launch a daring espionage mission to avoid inventing upgrades to the missile themselves...
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  • @Jay-ln1co
    @Jay-ln1co 4 года назад +1613

    "Hello, police, I'd like to report a theft. They ran away with my bullets in them."

    • @coolfungame8467
      @coolfungame8467 4 года назад +9

      ok

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 года назад +34

      Police: I hope those are tracking rounds!

    • @kospencer1
      @kospencer1 4 года назад +7

      You are not wrong to use this analogy, this happened at a time when Taiwanese ROCAF would fly sorties into Chinese Mainland.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 года назад +2

      Police: WHAT THE HELL KINDA CRANK CALL IS THIS?!

    • @jahidahiden5088
      @jahidahiden5088 4 года назад

      dont use 9m.instead cal40 or cal45 for sure they stuck infront of you

  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 4 года назад +45

    During the Vietnam war an F-105 was hit by missile fired by North Vietnam fighter. The missile didn't explode but got embedded in the F-105. When the US Air Force inspected the missile they found that the parts were interchangable with the US sidewinder missiles.

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 4 года назад +908

    In China and Russia, R&D means "Requisition & Disassembly."

    • @coolfungame8467
      @coolfungame8467 4 года назад +20

      ur mom

    • @abandonedchannel281
      @abandonedchannel281 4 года назад +9

      Spicy Booger got em

    • @christucker7434
      @christucker7434 4 года назад +9

      Very true

    • @High_7
      @High_7 4 года назад +42

      China yes. Russia no. Americans stole many pioneer techs from soviets too like of mig25a and mig 21. China just copies everything Russia makes because it is accessible to them easily.

    • @Internetbutthurt
      @Internetbutthurt 4 года назад +21

      Not in the case of Russia or Soviet Union. Its a falsehood they just copied though they would do it if it saved them R&D. There was very few true copies of western stuff the Soviets actually used. PS modern US missiles actually adopted some design elements of late Soviet designs so everyone does it.

  • @lycossurfer8851
    @lycossurfer8851 4 года назад +71

    "It followed me home mom, can we keep it?"

  • @chaoticneutral4665
    @chaoticneutral4665 4 года назад +864

    The lack of F-86 Saber footage is disturbing

    • @moonbear2130
      @moonbear2130 4 года назад +117

      Agreed, my only real criticism of this channel is his affinity to talk about one thing while showing footage of another, for example in his xb-70 Valkyrie easily half or more of all aircraft footage shown was of the Concorde

    • @21reasons47
      @21reasons47 4 года назад +141

      1:50
      Talking about the saber *Shows F-104*

    • @Revelationsvidya
      @Revelationsvidya 4 года назад +52

      Unfortunately there wasn't much footage of most aircraft pre 1970/that hasn't been bought up by companies and force you to pay them royalties for using it.

    • @AngleSideSideThm
      @AngleSideSideThm 4 года назад +52

      Even static images with a label would be better than nothing

    • @R3C0NxXx
      @R3C0NxXx 4 года назад +27

      I have to agree. Maybe showing a quick image of the object in question when it gets mentioned would be a decent compromise. Even just on top of the background footage would do it

  • @jonathanfrank1189
    @jonathanfrank1189 4 года назад +757

    No wonder they got caught, they mailed a freaking Missile

    • @Max-rg2fd
      @Max-rg2fd 4 года назад +59

      They mailed a missile for 80 bucks, a missile that could destroy a 800k bucks aircraft

    • @mylifeonthepeninsula9521
      @mylifeonthepeninsula9521 4 года назад +18

      Max 2 I think it’s more then 800k

    • @xxfuqqyocouch
      @xxfuqqyocouch 4 года назад +18

      @@Max-rg2fd keep inflation in mind, too lazy to figure out how much that would be today.

    • @Max-rg2fd
      @Max-rg2fd 4 года назад +8

      @@xxfuqqyocouch I thought of that but me is also too lazy

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 4 года назад +8

      Candygram for Mongo

  • @brycepeterson1969
    @brycepeterson1969 4 года назад +84

    Everyone gangsta until the sidewinder gets stuck

  • @jamesshaw3500
    @jamesshaw3500 4 года назад +556

    We are so kind, we give our enemies our most advanced weapons to reverse engineer.

    • @Captain_Tumbleweed
      @Captain_Tumbleweed 4 года назад +33

      It's to ensure Mutual Assured Destruction.

    • @u0aol1
      @u0aol1 4 года назад +5

      @Hue Man Shoot a nuclear armed plane and watch the fireworks.

    • @KappaKiller108
      @KappaKiller108 4 года назад +45

      @@u0aol1 nuclear bombs aren't gasoline, they don't just exploded If you shoot them

    • @mininudoalem7950
      @mininudoalem7950 4 года назад +33

      @@u0aol1 I'm 99% sure that's not how it works, all you would end up with is a bunch of pulverized uranium and a huge problem

    • @urdnotwrex6969
      @urdnotwrex6969 4 года назад +2

      ´´most advanced´´ malfunction on most advanced missile not BLOW UP. The easiest part on MOST ADVANCED weapon. . .If it was tracking malfunction OK, but BLOW UP?

  • @tommyhammel
    @tommyhammel 4 года назад +483

    I still can’t believe they had these missiles but they didn’t have color tv

    • @hondaservicecenter
      @hondaservicecenter 4 года назад +6

      🤣

    • @tyskbulle
      @tyskbulle 4 года назад +35

      1950s TV was just a fad, will be gone in a few years...

    • @chrismechanic2000
      @chrismechanic2000 4 года назад +90

      Colour TVs don't bring down enemy aircraft, there's the reason.

    • @muffy469
      @muffy469 4 года назад +22

      They focused their money onto important developments like military technology. They couldn't afford to make (kinda useless) stuff because they didn't have leftover money to do so.

    • @ratnoh
      @ratnoh 4 года назад +9

      to be fair, the military got a bunch of funding

  • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
    @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 4 года назад +944

    In Soviet Russia missile technology comes to you!

    • @drxsasquach
      @drxsasquach 4 года назад +10

      Nice

    • @barrybadass3481
      @barrybadass3481 4 года назад +4

      But now only armed ones.

    • @Deutsche_1
      @Deutsche_1 4 года назад +30

      @David Just like america at this moment, a shithole where nobody wants to be in (stop throwing mud at things you know so little about)

    • @Goprof150
      @Goprof150 4 года назад +12

      Billybob858 You say that until you move to Russia

    • @jonwalker4351
      @jonwalker4351 4 года назад

      Good one

  • @mr.nozzles9121
    @mr.nozzles9121 4 года назад +568

    Steals a missile, serves 3 years. Sells a bag of weed, serves 20 years. Seems legit.

    • @GHustle4
      @GHustle4 3 года назад +43

      Sounds like america!

    • @smitha775
      @smitha775 3 года назад +20

      White guy sells the missile the black guy sells the weed...

    • @GHustle4
      @GHustle4 3 года назад +27

      Razor2112 actually white guy sell weed and missiles black guys just get punished more severely...

    • @cipher88101
      @cipher88101 3 года назад +6

      Point sailed right over your head.

    • @nature337
      @nature337 3 года назад +2

      @@GHustle4 wasnt he west German?

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 4 года назад +326

    Air Force vet here: Say "Aim 9", not "A-I-M 9". I've never once heard it pronounced that way until today.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 4 года назад +5

      I'm not a get but !e neither. isn't it the x model now?

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 года назад +7

      @@joshschneider9766 Its the X in AIM-9X that makes the technology unknown to the east because it explodes with out making contact! HA!

    • @ZenZaBill
      @ZenZaBill 4 года назад +8

      Same here... never heard aye - eye - M - nine. Only AIM-9.

    • @mikecimerian6913
      @mikecimerian6913 4 года назад +2

      Fox Two. o7

    • @Fister_of_Muppets
      @Fister_of_Muppets 4 года назад +1

      Same here

  • @sonictheedgehog5360
    @sonictheedgehog5360 4 года назад +290

    Those prison sentences seem very small for how much info they leaked

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 4 года назад +20

      Probably as the result of plea deals that implicated others.

    • @sylv9570
      @sylv9570 4 года назад +11

      *AHEM* soviet pressure

    • @patrickkeyes6682
      @patrickkeyes6682 4 года назад +20

      Yeah I’d be a little mad if I found out someone leaked thousands of pages of classified info for years. Ten years was way too easy of a sentence

    • @aholegunner
      @aholegunner 4 года назад +20

      Those guys shouldve been executed and I am typically against the death penalty.

    • @macjonte
      @macjonte 4 года назад +9

      Prison time in Sweden is short compared to many other countries. And prisoners are released after 2/3 of the time. If doing bad during the rest 1/3 you’re quickly behind bars again.
      The system is mostly designed for adapting people back to life in society, not keeping people away from society.
      It has flaws.
      /Swede

  • @lexxynubbers
    @lexxynubbers 4 года назад +162

    Intellectual theft? Sounds more like a gift to me.

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 года назад

      @Raj Strong Bullshit

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 года назад +2

      DD has anti Chinese agenda. Refusing to only call the two States as the PROC and ROC (eg. "China" & "Taiwan").
      Using Japanese occupation's name of "Amoy" & "Matzu".
      Edited

    • @youfailedthevibecheck1057
      @youfailedthevibecheck1057 4 года назад +3

      peekaboo peekaboo somebody doesn’t have a sense of humor.. sheesh

    • @crashovride02
      @crashovride02 4 года назад +1

      Yes, they didn't steal anything. It was their plane and we left it there for them. I hate when people think others always steal from us. Like we won't do the same.

    • @oomahuntressprotectress848
      @oomahuntressprotectress848 4 года назад

      xcatly! and we're now in the process of rebringingback all Coca Cola Corporation products and product lines, all Pepsi Co products and product lines, and soon to be your not-present Dr Pepper Company products and product lines from all foreign countries worldwide globally!!
      anti-American propaganda will cease and desist or else!

  • @cavemanballistics6338
    @cavemanballistics6338 4 года назад +30

    MY father worked for SPERRY Corp in the 1950s he was a guidance control engineer, He helped build the AIM9. Then in 1962 he went to work for NASA all the way through till 1972.

  • @Saginaw72
    @Saginaw72 3 года назад +4

    The sentences handed out in this video for espionage are jaw droppingly lenient.
    This new series is terrific and informative. Looking forward to future posts.

  • @ryancrazy1
    @ryancrazy1 4 года назад +197

    1:47 isn't that an F104?
    TO be FAIR , the US did send F-104s to Taiwan, dismantled in C-124s, and that video IS probably those F-104s being reassembled in Taiwan. They didn't see combat, they just flew up and down the coast at Mach 2, just to make the Chinese wonder WTF was going so fast...

    • @a50204b123
      @a50204b123 4 года назад +23

      In fact, Taiwan's F-104 did see combat and score one, probably two kills.
      1967, one RF-104G belong to 12th Reconnaissance
      Squadron was doing its job along china's coastline.
      Suddenly, two Migs show up on the radar, and RF-104G starts heading back to Taiwan.
      As the RF-104G trying to escape from the Mig-19, four F-104G belong to 8th Combat
      Squadron comes to rescue.
      Two kills were scored by the F-104G numbered 4347 and 4344, using AIM-9 sidewinder.

    • @gothicaholic
      @gothicaholic 4 года назад +9

      Check out his last 6 videos regarding jets... he shows completely different jets than the ones he is talking about.
      Also he is talking about modifying sabres and shows footage of a mig 19.

    • @gothicaholic
      @gothicaholic 4 года назад +2

      Felix Chang they did had starfighters but they have nothing to do with the video and the incident he is talking about.

    • @joeyjamison5772
      @joeyjamison5772 4 года назад +2

      So you noticed that too.

    • @user-hb8be5wb4q
      @user-hb8be5wb4q 4 года назад +2

      The F104 stories may be true, no argument here. But, Taiwan did have an alert pad with at least 2 aircraft loaded for war. I spent some time as a weapons specialist on the pad in the spring of 1964. I slept on a top bunk when on the pad, and that claxon horn must have been near my head. That thing is very loud! And all I remember the Taiwanese having was F105 Thunderchief aircraft.

  • @bastiaan0741
    @bastiaan0741 4 года назад +120

    That pilot had a guardian angel.

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 года назад +3

      Id say luck because Atheism is communist doctrine!

    • @Himikz
      @Himikz 4 года назад +2

      Kindred ultimate on top (:

    • @pawelkaluza123
      @pawelkaluza123 4 года назад +1

      Lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllplllllllllllllllllllllllllllpllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp

    • @hansgruber3397
      @hansgruber3397 4 года назад +1

      Luck, you mean Luck

    • @BabySkinCondom
      @BabySkinCondom 4 года назад +15

      "AtHeIsM iS cOmMuNiSt DoCtRiNe!" and other retarded things religious boomers say

  • @maiaemmett2399
    @maiaemmett2399 3 года назад +8

    Absolute legend just straight up picking up a missile and wheelbarrowing it to a waiting car and causally driving off with it like you have to admit like that's incredibly ballsy.

  • @MichaelColeman
    @MichaelColeman 4 года назад +95

    I'm astounded at the extremely lenient sentences these spies received.

    • @hthornburg6029
      @hthornburg6029 4 года назад +8

      Yeah no kidding

    • @voixdelaraison593
      @voixdelaraison593 4 года назад +3

      Michael Coleman
      They must have been Treasonous Trump associates.

    • @luvr381
      @luvr381 4 года назад +10

      There are many people in the US who have served longer sentences for stealing $100 or less.

    • @thesauciestboss4039
      @thesauciestboss4039 4 года назад +14

      Voix de la raison orange man bad

    • @duudsuufd
      @duudsuufd 4 года назад +1

      Spying is actually a good thing. It prevents that one country can become the only superpower.

  • @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
    @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 4 года назад +119

    A.k.a. next up on "I Shouldn't Be Alive"

    • @solomonarbc
      @solomonarbc 4 года назад +15

      "How an AIM-9 defected to Communist China."

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 4 года назад +2

      @@solomonarbc probably not _quite_ that bad...
      More likely a fall guy so that "unreliable Western warhead" could remain an oxymoron...

  • @gravy1219
    @gravy1219 3 года назад +9

    I feel "unxploded" missiles would actually be a good invention for war, Most pilots would assume the warhead malfunctioned and head back to land for repairs, with GPS technology being what it is you could time it perfect to maximise damage.

    • @theorangeofallahpbuh1840
      @theorangeofallahpbuh1840 2 года назад

      Perhaps, but for this to be effective, the enemy must be able to know they have been impaled, while also being damaged enough that they can’t fight back and shoot down their attacker. The signal for the impaler missile also needs to be fairly strong so that it can’t be lost or jammed easily.

  • @ultimatedijon3247
    @ultimatedijon3247 4 года назад +203

    Loving the uploads recently! You're pumping them out and the quality is better than ever! Keep it up!!

  • @teuth
    @teuth 4 года назад +44

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
    The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 4 года назад +9

      It's guided by a meme

    • @Xander_Zimmermann
      @Xander_Zimmermann 4 года назад +19

      They always say "where is missile?" But never "how is missile?"😥

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 4 года назад +4

      Adrian....Well done...!! It reminds me of something that Spock would come up with..!!

    • @harpreetuppal1179
      @harpreetuppal1179 4 года назад +3

      Ok got it !

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 4 года назад +2

      Where is the source of this copy pasta? I have seen it posted several times.

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 4 года назад +139

    Says: Sabre
    Shows: propeller driven plane

    • @SteelHorseRider74
      @SteelHorseRider74 4 года назад +10

      Zack Schilling - aren't propeller blades like sabres, cutting through the air... ^_^

    • @Len1977gt
      @Len1977gt 4 года назад +2

      Did you read the description?

    • @ItsMeMattCarter
      @ItsMeMattCarter 4 года назад +1

      @@Len1977gt Yeah its a cop out for being lazy and inaccurate like on his other channels.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 3 года назад

      Stryker! Your too low! It's your call Styker! Your call! Your call... your call...

  • @JL-cn1qi
    @JL-cn1qi 4 года назад +41

    Those were some random ass background images.

  • @Maverick626
    @Maverick626 4 года назад +31

    i almost suffered a stroke at watching an f-14 cockpit as a 50s era fighter footage xD

  • @banba317
    @banba317 4 года назад +89

    When you know, but can't prove you have a spy, you just kill him.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 4 года назад +19

      At the very least they should have restricted his access and barred him from any positions invovling access to sensitive information on grounds of suspicion alone.

    • @sundoga4961
      @sundoga4961 4 года назад +5

      @@SoloRenegade That's too likely to initiate a "witch hunt" mentality inside your own organizations, and that can be crippling. Plus, if you do that you will never catch him - either he will bug out from fear you already have enough information, or he will shut down his operation and all you'll have is suspicions...which having never been proven, will falter, and sooner or later he'll be promoted or transferred to something sensitive again.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 4 года назад +7

      @@sundoga4961You're wrong. My plan would not to be to fire anyone a random person is paranoid about. Rather, only those people who've come under serious investigation more than once under suspicion of legit espionage acts. the amount of information he leaked over 60yrs merely because he was unchecked is outrageous. And I wouldn't be "looking" for people to investigate without cause either. But I can recognize a security risk when i see one. There was no good achieved by letting him leak so much information for so long. And you can easily place a lifelong hiring/promotion ban on an individual in positions in which gov secrets are involved. Whenever he's up for a promotion or hiring into such a position, he would be flagged. All other nonsensitive positions he'd still be eligible for. You can classify a person as a risk to security with regards to classified materials without finding them guilty. People have been denied military/gov clearances for less all the time.

    • @sundoga4961
      @sundoga4961 4 года назад +2

      @@SoloRenegade Yes, but you'll find that those people were generally denied a high security clearance on application, not after a long period of possessing one. The exceptions are situations where the person themselves or their intimates have done something that causes a reassessment, like joining a radical organization or being involved in poorly chosen activities.
      A relatively high-ranking military person? De-rating their security clearance is executing their career. Sure, a Colonel involved in advertising and public relations has little need for a high clearance...until he does, in order to massage the loss of a new, high-tech and classified weapon system and ease the press interest in why you're sending an entire division to recover one plane. In a very real way there are no "nonsensitive " positions.
      If you don't have enough information to act against a suspect, he remains just a suspect and you could be dead wrong.

    • @IudiciumInfernalum
      @IudiciumInfernalum 4 года назад +2

      Suicide them. You wouldn't want to get bad PR from your own side.

  • @gutterdrums7509
    @gutterdrums7509 4 года назад +29

    The Dark MC has a dooope voice. In fact, his voice was just as important as his content in be becoming a HUGE fan! Keep up the great work brother!

  • @porridgeenjoyer
    @porridgeenjoyer 4 года назад +167

    Who else loves this guy's voice

    • @amig-2143
      @amig-2143 4 года назад +3

      That’d be me

    • @andie_pants
      @andie_pants 4 года назад +3

      Absolutely. It's so distinctive.

    • @porridgeenjoyer
      @porridgeenjoyer 4 года назад +1

      @@amig-2143 ✌️

    • @klimke22
      @klimke22 4 года назад +8

      yeah his voice gives me that intense strong ww2 allied docuseries kinda vibe

    • @nunobarros3629
      @nunobarros3629 4 года назад +2

      Reminds me of Daffy Duck.

  • @thomaslohr2864
    @thomaslohr2864 4 года назад +6

    Ah, the 1960s, when you could still ship missiles per mail - good old days

  • @angeldelarosa7975
    @angeldelarosa7975 4 года назад +13

    *Missile warning*
    " I'm done for!"
    *thunk*

    • @teemu3981
      @teemu3981 3 года назад

      Sidewinder don't give missile warnings.

    • @snikrepak
      @snikrepak 3 года назад +1

      It's always made me wonder, how does a unit so small, look, see, target, and follow, all with one cell of fuel, how would the other pilot know his craft is locked on?

    • @teemu3981
      @teemu3981 3 года назад +1

      @@snikrepak Must be illuminati

    • @series1054
      @series1054 3 года назад +1

      @@snikrepak sensor arrays and radar.

  • @chasewaldschmidt494
    @chasewaldschmidt494 4 года назад +76

    It blows my mind how little jail time these spies get

    • @solomonarbc
      @solomonarbc 4 года назад +6

      Get a few millions in offshore accounts - invest 3 years in prison time. Economics 101.

    • @Vikingdescendent
      @Vikingdescendent 4 года назад +2

      Double agents?

    • @ONEIL311
      @ONEIL311 4 года назад +6

      Vikingdescendent that or they had information about the soviets as a backup plan so they could trade it for freedom. Probably details of the Soviet missile program and ways to get in and out of West Berlin/Germany.

    • @lebensraummetal
      @lebensraummetal 3 года назад +4

      @@ONEIL311 More like communists were already embedding themselves in the mechanisms of the west, using subterfuge to get what they want over time. Remember the unsealed 1990s KGB files vindicated McCarthy's "witch hunt." Still didnt prevent the damage from decades of communist sympathizers publicly spreading propaganda to make him look like a crazy person for catching on to their tricks.

    • @grahambird1570
      @grahambird1570 3 года назад +1

      Iv'e seen 'Shop lifters' get Heavier penalties !!!!

  • @hoofitmoore1726
    @hoofitmoore1726 4 года назад +42

    Too Bad it didn’t explode while they were taking it apart for reverse engineering!

    • @grahambird1570
      @grahambird1570 3 года назад +1

      Pity it didn't !!!!

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 3 года назад +2

      Demolition and munition experts won't find it too hard to get into something like that. It's dangerous, but not trying to get into boobytrapped bombs n stuff. 🙄

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 года назад +43

    “I need a missile!” “Missile wery hard to get” “Well you better try wery hard to get me one, got me comrade!”

  • @u0aol1
    @u0aol1 4 года назад +2

    You fire a missile into my plane, you can be damn sure I'm keeping it.

  • @Nommenblue
    @Nommenblue 4 года назад +69

    The aircraft in the video playing while you stated that, "the U.S. armed the the Republic of China with North American F-86 Sabres" is a Lockeed F-104 Star Fighter.

    • @Len1977gt
      @Len1977gt 4 года назад +5

      Did you read the description?

    • @miltonb2811
      @miltonb2811 4 года назад

      I found funnier when they showed a MiG-19/J-6 while were talking about the American assistance in 2:55. 😄

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 года назад

      closest stock footage he could find

  • @Vikingdescendent
    @Vikingdescendent 4 года назад +165

    But they still drove the Lada! They should have reversed engineered western cars.

    • @zaccabral8251
      @zaccabral8251 4 года назад +20

      The lada was reverse engineered lol

    • @keithjennings6187
      @keithjennings6187 4 года назад +25

      The Lada is a copy of an early 50's Fiat. Fiat sold the Russians a copy of the plans and a whole factory, and helped them move it from Italy.

    • @kattapp
      @kattapp 4 года назад +1

      That’s what the Chinese learnt

    • @codmeterman
      @codmeterman 4 года назад +4

      Underrated comment.

    • @4450krank
      @4450krank 4 года назад +2

      What do you mean "drove" they legit still make that same old one today XD

  • @JimSmithInChiapas
    @JimSmithInChiapas 4 года назад +12

    0:40 _"[The Soviets, ] not content with their initial intellectual theft"_ What nerve they had, reverse-engineering a missile that one of our allies fired at one of their allies! /sarc

  • @JoCronje129
    @JoCronje129 4 года назад +4

    I love the amount of material you come out with Dark Docs

  • @ciscourquidez9254
    @ciscourquidez9254 3 года назад +3

    Dark Docs is my new favorite "go to" channel! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! 💪😉👍

  • @12LoLproductions
    @12LoLproductions 4 года назад +5

    Imagine being the pilot thinking it would explode at any moment on your flight back to base

  • @polvoradelrey2423
    @polvoradelrey2423 2 года назад +1

    -Dimitri, we have a job for you.
    -What's that?
    -We want you to start tinkering with this armed, undetonated, unknown, faulty enemy missile.
    -Great.

  • @sanfordgruber6130
    @sanfordgruber6130 4 года назад +1

    When I need something to watch I can always count on Dark docs

  • @manicmechanic448
    @manicmechanic448 4 года назад +11

    My papaw was on the navy ground team that tested the first gen sidewinders back in the mid/early 50s. He fitted old corsairs and hellcats with radio control systems and flares on the wing tips for a heat signature. Apparently those things will fly with only half a wing.

  • @GN77340
    @GN77340 4 года назад +29

    I love dark docs been a fan for years always something new to listen too

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 2 года назад +1

    2:02
    Hello Maverick's work office. Nice Tomcat cockpit and launch button in the RIO seat

  • @cwf081166
    @cwf081166 4 года назад

    Dark Docs is great about using footage that do not have anything to do with their actual subject matter, but then again half the documentaries on RUclips is great about that.

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 4 года назад +12

    -they are spying on us because the update are the same as ours!
    -how do you know that?
    .....

  • @n3onkatman
    @n3onkatman 4 года назад +28

    Last time I was this early Helgen was still around

    • @jasonarcher7268
      @jasonarcher7268 4 года назад +7

      Way back before that arrow in the knee ended my adventuring

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 4 года назад +3

      Quite early indeed

  • @williamrichardson3672
    @williamrichardson3672 Год назад

    Aside from the random footage of random aircraft and missiles, this is pretty good.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 4 года назад +2

    Fascinating story, and one I'd never heard! Thanks.

  • @klutzkerman1664
    @klutzkerman1664 4 года назад +45

    I love how well-researched and narrated these are! I can't get past the wrong planes being displayed though, I may have to simply listen instead of watch :D

    • @Nommenblue
      @Nommenblue 4 года назад +4

      Same. Great channel and content, but lots of technical inaccuracies.

    • @ImWearingPantsNow
      @ImWearingPantsNow 4 года назад +4

      I often just listen while I drive. I rarely notice issues like that. I'm not driving right now, and it's all I can see. Oh well, still entertaining.

    • @brianchan8
      @brianchan8 3 года назад +1

      @@ImWearingPantsNow i can’t even tell lol

  • @papamike4215
    @papamike4215 4 года назад +105

    Talking about MiG 15 and 17’s showing pictures of MiG 21’s. I don’t think they had a single aircraft they were talking about in any picture. Subject interesting but the video terrible.

    • @charlesradford3811
      @charlesradford3811 4 года назад +8

      I agree completely. Talking about an F-86 while showing an F-104 is just dumb.

    • @HomelessCows
      @HomelessCows 4 года назад +4

      And then shows an F-14 RIO firing a Sparrow while talking about F-86's firing Sidewinders.

    • @spanieaj
      @spanieaj 4 года назад +2

      Yes. It was very distracting.

    • @lr21643
      @lr21643 4 года назад +2

      I have to wonder what else they got wrong.

    • @miltonb2811
      @miltonb2811 4 года назад +1

      I thought that I was the only one annoyed by the 'Chinese Tu-22 Blinders'. ;)

  • @petepatton7496
    @petepatton7496 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting documentary, very surprised there are such high quality videos free on RUclips

  • @zulucain
    @zulucain 3 года назад

    That mailing the missile parts and them being sent back should be a theme of a Kusturica movie :-D

  • @TheUnatuber
    @TheUnatuber 4 года назад +10

    I just *knew* there was going to be at least one "Tribesman" involved!

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder 4 года назад +2

      Stig Wennerstrom not a very tribal name.

  • @K1W1fly
    @K1W1fly 4 года назад +5

    A whole story about missiles on an F86 Sabre, without once using footage of any Sabre!

  • @rickysmith2126
    @rickysmith2126 4 года назад

    far out this stuff is always such great content what ive been looking for my whole life. thoughly enjoy the content keep it comin.

  • @wazza-au
    @wazza-au 4 года назад

    Thank you, this was an excellent video!

  • @nicobings2674
    @nicobings2674 4 года назад +60

    Chines got f86 saber's from the USA.
    Shows a F-104 Starfighter. XD

    • @SekritKomrade
      @SekritKomrade 4 года назад +12

      Its literally the only thing wrong w these Docs. Amazing narration, content, quality, nails it.
      but for the aircraft buffs out there, its distracting to see the wrong equipment when being spoken about.

    • @jarrod1766
      @jarrod1766 4 года назад +3

      @@SekritKomrade Correct this seems lazy on their part also I think it misleads the viewer if they aren't knowledgable. They discuss a Mig-17 and show a Mig 21, if you don't know what these aircraft are that's going to give you the wrong idea.

    • @DasJager13
      @DasJager13 4 года назад +5

      Half the footage of fighter jets were from the cockpit of a F14.

    • @ryancrazy1
      @ryancrazy1 4 года назад +2

      in fact.... pretty sure i didn't see an F-86 the entire video....

    • @paulsmith5742
      @paulsmith5742 4 года назад

      or how about what looks like the T-28's

  • @RainCity3rd
    @RainCity3rd 4 года назад +6

    Very surprising how little time one gets for pretty important theft /spying.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 4 года назад +2

    I knew of both of these incidents though I lacked details on the second one. So thanks for the additional information.
    From what I read the part of the fuselage they first missile struck was for the aircraft's tailpipe and was partially damaged by the hot exhaust from the engine.
    Imagine being the pilot flying back with that jammed in his aircraft. Obviously his knowledge of what had happened was limited. But the aircraft's flight characteristics must have been effected so he would have been aware something was going on. Plus he would have felt the hit. I bet he had the smoothest landing ever.

  • @MasterYota1
    @MasterYota1 3 года назад

    This is the perfect speed for your voice!! Thanks for the great content.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 4 года назад +8

    USA (sarcastically): GREAT SHOT KID THAT WAS ONE IN A MILLION!
    Maniacal Chinese and Russian Laughter.

  • @nateflint1334
    @nateflint1334 3 года назад +4

    would be interesting if the missile was meant to be unexploded, right until it arrived in some important russiab building, where it was detonated remotely

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 года назад +1

      Time fuse would’ve been more appropriate

  • @Shipwright1918
    @Shipwright1918 4 года назад +2

    I'm having trouble getting a parcel to a penpal, but these suckers mail a literal friggin' missile with no problem, unbelievable!

  • @centuriontwofivezeroone2794
    @centuriontwofivezeroone2794 4 года назад

    Thank you, I learned something new today. Great style and content, subscribing,,,

  • @j0ckel617
    @j0ckel617 4 года назад +38

    Why isn’t almost any picture coherent with what is narrated? There are starfighters shown when talking about sabres, sometimes even prop-planes, there are two stage long range surface to air missiles on screen when talking about the short range air to air sidewinders, there are two engined suchois shown when talking abot single engined mig 15s, I mean come on

    • @catfunt5583
      @catfunt5583 4 года назад +5

      It's because it's hard to find footage from way back then, and even harder to find footage that isn't copyrighted

    • @tomperkins5657
      @tomperkins5657 4 года назад +2

      I was thinking of some footage of the Three Stooges representing Western Security and Homer Simpson as the missile exporter.

    • @drumboarder1
      @drumboarder1 4 года назад +1

      @@tomperkins5657 perfectly accurate

    • @garyllthegreat5491
      @garyllthegreat5491 3 года назад

      E

  • @rtmsound1877
    @rtmsound1877 4 года назад +7

    Some plans for the Sidewinder were stolen from China Lakes Naval Weapons Testing Center in California. I don't remember what year this was.

  • @Robbini0
    @Robbini0 4 года назад

    The 'And signaled the protusion with a red piece of fabric as required by law' was a very interesting touch

  • @billferner6741
    @billferner6741 4 года назад +2

    I remember when I was a boy, my father was working as a civilian in Neuburg German airforce base, it was a big discussion about how it was possible to smuggle out a 3 meter (6'6") long and 70 kilo (155pounds) heavy thingens out of a high security area.

  • @Chuck_Hooks
    @Chuck_Hooks 4 года назад +39

    Russia and China are nowhere without US and Western tech to copy and reverse engineer.

    • @euanwhite8716
      @euanwhite8716 4 года назад +6

      Just gonna ignore the fact the west reverse engineered the hound?

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 года назад +3

      @@euanwhite8716 How did Concordski work out?

    • @mattsmith5421
      @mattsmith5421 4 года назад +2

      @@Chuck_Hooks same way as Concorde lol

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 года назад +4

      @@mattsmith5421 Concorde had a 31 year history of no crashes. The one crash it did have was caused by a piece of metal left on the runway by another aircraft.
      What was Concordski's record again?

    • @bcubed72
      @bcubed72 4 года назад

      Comrade Regus Patoff is greatest inventor of glorious socialist motherland!

  • @strawberrybleach7715
    @strawberrybleach7715 4 года назад +6

    They were waay too easy on those spies.
    Anything short of the firing squad is an unfair sentence

  • @Tottleminerftw
    @Tottleminerftw 3 года назад +2

    It never cease to amaze me the ability of the ussr to copy other technology's

    • @dextermorgan1
      @dextermorgan1 3 года назад

      China should absolutely blow your mind then. They steal EVERYTHING.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 года назад +2

    Best way to steal enemy technology? Walk in the base and take it.

  • @MustyMouse
    @MustyMouse 4 года назад +4

    Imagine being mad that your enemies took the thing you shot at them and made their own

  • @tahustvedt
    @tahustvedt 4 года назад +23

    1:52 - F-104 Starfighter

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 года назад +1

      @Barrett Haynes Taking a wild guess ..........
      Probably because they're incompetent? - I have no trust or confidence in this channel now.
      Some of the aircraft shown with the People's Republic of (Communist) China are MiG 19s or possibly even MiG 21s.
      Its questionable whether China had these at the time Mig15s & Mig 17s -sure ......... but that's not what's in the video.

    • @bastiaan0741
      @bastiaan0741 4 года назад

      I remember those. They had sharp wings, if you ever get the chance to inspect one.

    • @tac2oo7
      @tac2oo7 4 года назад +2

      He states in the video description he may not always have footage of exact events, so he uses stock footage. Do a little research before speaking.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 года назад

      @Barrett Haynes Of *course* I know Jesus Christ personally ............He sends me a card every year.
      (It says you lousy godless pagan atheist you are *barred*)
      I write back just before Easter to say if that were true I'd look like a Tiger or something and then ask about his hang ups.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 года назад

      @@tac2oo7 Hey genius. What he's doing is akin to talking about dogs and showing images of cats.
      If he's going to make the damn pontificating video *he* is the one upon whom falls the responsibility to do the effing research!

  • @derrickgriswold7504
    @derrickgriswold7504 4 года назад

    I love your work and narration , keep it up

  • @scorpygixxer
    @scorpygixxer 4 года назад

    Fascinating. Always love your stuff.

  • @pylon500
    @pylon500 4 года назад +3

    Although obviously hard to find, it's still a pity that 90% of the video footage in this is irrelevant to the story :(

  • @azazzelx
    @azazzelx 3 года назад +5

    How is it an intellectual theft when it was literally flown and sent to you?!...minus the explosion thing...

    • @cat_in_a_sock1948
      @cat_in_a_sock1948 3 года назад +1

      Because communists are evil and steal things duh

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed 3 года назад +1

      Locally, we have a law that says if someone mails you something or gives you something you didn't ask for, it becomes your property.
      This prevents the old scam of mailing people books they have to return at their own cost, or pay for.

  • @TrevorNet
    @TrevorNet 3 года назад

    Feels good seeing other people’s planes go boom without a parachute in the sky.

  • @maxwellclark6992
    @maxwellclark6992 4 года назад

    Great video, this is movie type sthuff, I can’t wait to see what your next masterpiece will be

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 4 года назад +14

    Is it really intellectual theft when you attained the item in question when it was fired at you, trying to kill you?

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 4 года назад +9

      No I would say that one is finders keepers.

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 4 года назад

      Stealing plans is

    • @redram5150
      @redram5150 4 года назад +2

      sc1338 keeping the missile fired at you isn’t stealing plans

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 4 года назад +4

    This seemed like it lasted an hour. For some reason, it just felt like a full-length documentary. Very well done!

  • @johndo3930
    @johndo3930 4 года назад

    That gives an new meaning to the handle with care sticker on the mail lol....

  • @YeIIow13
    @YeIIow13 4 года назад

    Hey dark, big fan. Love your videos. Gotta ask, did you use any Ace Combat music in this video?

  • @alexduke5402
    @alexduke5402 4 года назад +5

    Last time I was this early Maxwell hadn't suicided yet

    • @joelmartin2549
      @joelmartin2549 4 года назад

      Did she already?

    • @alexduke5402
      @alexduke5402 4 года назад

      @@joelmartin2549 lol not yet but I think we all know what's coming

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 года назад +8

    So this is how our Missiles defect? 🤔

    • @BBCharger5spd
      @BBCharger5spd 4 года назад

      It's ok... Our Aim-9 defected to Russia... a few years later we got a Mig-25 Foxbat

  • @chico20m
    @chico20m 4 года назад

    When you can't have confidence on security services but mail services are the best.

  • @YeIIow13
    @YeIIow13 4 года назад

    What music did you use for this doc? Sounds a lot like something right out of Ace Combat. Love the channel, btw. Keep it up!

  • @Gloopular
    @Gloopular 4 года назад +14

    U.S. security was pathetic that these clowns were just able to walk into an ammo dump and waltz away with a missile poking thru the car! Also penalties were ludicrously soft - pathetic !

    • @MrMontanaNights
      @MrMontanaNights 4 года назад +5

      Walter It was a West German airbase ( not American) with West German Army guards. The reason they got off lightly was they didn’t manage to steal the navigation unit, which was one of the most secret technologies on the missile. The theft was committed by people whom were not American so the US had little to do with the prosecution. An American caught doing that would probably get 20 to life.

  •  4 года назад +8

    China steals a half a trillion in technology every year from the U.S.A, there are 500,000 students alone in American colleges

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 4 года назад

      how are those 2 connected?

    • @akacurmurdar1
      @akacurmurdar1 4 года назад

      @@maxmagnus777 How do spies and their networks work?

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 4 года назад

      @@akacurmurdar1 mostly by paying off those that have power to give you secrets. I kind of doubt that universities have any secrets to give. They have couple of extremely interesting courses. Those same courses are usually taken by 5 smart people and later teach at domestic universities. Thus you have transfer of knowledge. That is how Africa obtained knowledge fro Europe from 1950's to 1990 in my country. There is no need for 500 000 students.

  • @FrostedSeagull
    @FrostedSeagull 4 года назад

    Outstanding . . . this amazing turn of events s hould make a great movie ! 👈👍

  • @phillipjones3342
    @phillipjones3342 4 года назад

    Too many children expecting something fanatical I enjoy your content thanks for the video

  • @jonnywatts2970
    @jonnywatts2970 4 года назад +5

    Come on Sweden! I sentence you to 20 years...wink wink....only 10 actually. WEAK!

    • @BigJon410
      @BigJon410 4 года назад +1

      In the US it is always a life sentence. That way we always have inventory for prisoner exchanges years latter.

    • @jonnywatts2970
      @jonnywatts2970 4 года назад

      @@BigJon410 except life means 25 years...

  • @klimke22
    @klimke22 4 года назад +3

    there is 1 21st century question I have for the cpp and that is do you really think that 1 island is worth the outbreak of ww3 and as much as I think they arnt that stupid to answer yes, I am questioning their intelligence more and more these days so I'm less and less sure in every day that passes I'm leaning more and more towards a nuclear war being imminent

  • @fltchr4449
    @fltchr4449 3 года назад

    I had to pause this while two VTANG F-35s took off for night training.

  • @6bev
    @6bev 4 года назад +1

    There's a Soviet made copy of the AIM-9 seeker in a corner of the China Lake museum. How it was acquired isn't documented, but the China Lake engineers learned things from the Soviet copy, and incorporated those things into the next generation of the AIM-9.