Yep people seem to think you need to succeed in f2 to become a top f1 driver. F2/GP2/F3000/F2 again has existed since the 1950’s yet in those 70 years only 3 of the top feeder series champions have become f1 world champions (Brabham, Rosberg, Hamilton), it’s not the be all and end all that some fans make it out to be. Hell just look at the current grid by their logic the likes of Albon, Tsunoda and Norris should be dropped in favour of De Vries as he raced in F2 and won the title which they failed to do and Vestappen shouldn’t even be in the f1 picture as he never even competed in the format.
Its not the f1 experience thats the main catalyst. F2 is NOT an equal series especially in the 1st season of new regulations. There are teams that are defo way bttr at setups which is making medicore drivers lead the championship while Bearman and Antonelli struggle. Honestly i thought it was bullshit that setups can influence a team's pace, but seeing how BEARMAN went frm 6th in 2023 to now 14th, i get the point ppl are tryna to make
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 a lot of current F1 drivers are champions in lower category man your completely lost wow …. Charles , George Russel all F2 Champs man … Lando and lance F3 champions and a lot more I’m not gonna keep writing just do your research before saying all that
@@elcactusdelamuerte506however people like you pretend f2 doesn’t matter at all. You need to consider age and experience in f2 to be able to decide who is good and who isn’t. However also then it isn’t a 100% chance that they’ll succeed in f1
@@illyricus.It's spelt *Antonio Giovinazzi, and he's already out of the sport sadly. The rookie he was speaking of is Fernando Alonso. Kimi (Räikkönen) may also make his F1 debut this year but we must wait and see.
F2 is dead. The main idea was to give opportunity to young drivers to show their talents and maybe reach F1. and now the last 2 champions, Pourchaire and Drugovitch, are not even considered for a seat next season. Not saying that Bearman or Antonelli are not pure talents and world champion material, but what's the point for the other drivers to trying winning F2 if midfielders are going to be promoted instead?
So true! Now it is only academy drivers who get promoted. Drugovitch where a free agent so he could have signed for any team, but didnt get any eventhough he performed one of the most convincing F2 championship wins in recent years.. :/
It is true that since 2022 getting first in F2 no longer gives any guarantees. Non-winners being promoted was always a thing, but usually they were top 3 drivers (like Albon, Tsunoda and Zhou who were promoted to F1 after coming 3rd in F2, and Latifi and Norris who were promoted after coming 2nd in F2). So if Doohan (3rd) and Lawson (3rd) make it onto the grid, it is not unusual or unfair. But if drivers who are currently 8th (Antonelli) and 13th (Bearman) are promoted, while winners lose out on a seat, it does show that nowadays F2 results are not taken serious anymore. I mean if Antonelli gets confirmed at Merc, I really would feel bad for both Hadjar/Aron/the person that wins F2 and Russell. Russell was 1st in F2 and had to wait years for a Merc seat, while Antonelli bottles his season and gets the seat before being put into a Williams? It doesn't make any sense to me.
Maybe These drivers should stop doing 3rd and 4th seasons. Because only THEN it doesn't matter if you wi F2. If you are in the Top3 as a Rookie or win it in the 2nd season you will get a chance. Also I am tired of some of these drivers like Verschoor, Hauger etc who try and try again but don't make any progress.
At this point they need to remove the rule that the champion cannot defend their title. It seems that unless you are part of the manufacturer junior program, you can forget about a seat with the Big Dawgs. It the case of Drugovich, and Pourchaire that isn't a guarantee either.
man if Ayao can keep the trend of a strong midfield car this will be the perfect place for Bearman. If Steiner was still around Ollie would have to count his lucky stars
Bearman is a top quality driver. I raced him in karts. It’s fair to say that the Prema car isn’t as dominant as it has been. Although Antonelli is less experienced, he is also one of the worlds best. It’s not like Bearman hasn’t won in f2.
Well it's a bit different here. De Vries was an FE world champion and F2 champion at that point but he also was quite old for a rookie, and in reality i don't think he was ever aiming for getting a full time seat in F1 at this point but got lucky. Bearman is still a junior who aims exactly for F1, is proving to be quick with Haas and is just super unlucky with Prema being such a disappointment this year. He was one of the stars last year in F2, and even if he will have a tough start he's only 19 anyways
Bearman had a great rookie season last year. Prema have genuinely been woeful this season and are in the midfield. As well as having bad luck and missing the weekend where he qualified on pole, that is why he isn’t doing great
@@nathanb286still getting outperformed by a teamate who has no experience in f3/f2 meanwhile this is ollies third season in f3/f2. And his rookie season was good but not THAT good. Not even as good as Nick.
@@askeladden450all that matters is performance in F1, Kobayashi was probably the best example of this when he was barely able to score points in GP2 but did wonders when he went to F1.
He’s definitely proved himself with that Ferrari drive at Jeddah this year. Having experience in an F1 race heavily outweighs being an F2 champion or runner up
@@LucifenaQuinn Nyck was 29 when he joined F1 and the Williams would have scored points with any decent driver as it is a rocket ship in a straight line in 2022. Also, Red Bull had no data on Nyck, while Haas and Ferrari have copious amounts of data
Imagine being one of the championship contending F2 drivers right now, and you see all these guys in the midfield being signed or strongly tied to seats. Case in point, I didn't even know the name of the championship leader.
So you don't watch f2? Bearman has been so unlucky this season that you can't even imagine that's a reason why he so low and prema have not been so good so watch the sport before commenting please
Aren’t all f2 drivers kinda midfield at this stage? I’m struggling to point to one driver that stands out as a front runner Also, let’s be real, you can be mediocre even, but if you have the looks and the personality, you’re in, speed is one thing, marketability is also crucial in modern f1
@Redlingstein they are you're right but that Inforces this guys statement because although they are so much better to the eye than the rest and the points. They still don't get a look in so it makes sense
I'd love to see a rule change to to make in mandatory for teams to not only grant a practice session to junior drivers but a whole quali and race as well
Im here for FP1 being mandated to HAVE to run a junior/reserve each weekend. It can alternate which full time driver sits out or not on a F2 weekend. Di Resta ran every FP1 in 2010 with Force India and im sure that was more than enough prep
People like to say that he was in one of the fastest cars on the grid and that's the only reason he did well, but they don't get it. He found out mere hours before FP3 that he'd be getting into the car, and then managed to nearly outqualify seven time world champion Lewis Hamilton with little practice in the car and little experience in F1 as a whole. Not to mention he finished in the points and pulled off some pretty impressive overtakes, all the while his neck went to shit from the G forces. Ollie definitely earned an opportunity for next year, and I feel like Haas is making the right choice.
This is downplaying a lot of what Haas had to say was the reason, they like him because hes not just a pure driver like so many of the others are, he knows the car and can speak to the engineers in the right language about the car and how it's performing, that means a lot, especially to a team like Haas that are looking to becoming podium contenders. Having a driver that young that they can invest in and that can actually help them make their car faster will make Haas contenders
Yea, it’s a general rule of thumb, in regard to the lower formulas, that you want to compare the drivers against their team mates. You know, like what is done in f1 …. ‘Cause sometimes teams don’t get it right with the cars. Even though it’s a spec series there is a lot of things that can be done setup wise. Heck, look at the different levels of performance f1 teams show over the course of a single GP weekend. Aside from being able to change out the rear wing (I believe) all those things are adjustable on a spec car too. & f2/f3 cars are much less dependent on downforce as well for their performance.
F2 does not mean anything. The two drivers considered as the top talents within F1 circles are 9th and 14th, meanwhile arguably last year’s quickest driver is 17th.
Magnussen doesn't want to train a rookie. However HAAS has no choice. Ocon isn't a team player. Bottas will prefer Williams or even alpine. So it's basically Magnussen or I guess Zhou for the money.
I think for Danny Ric, it is a real excuse though because clearly he didn't have any trouble in the Red Bull or Renault. That being said, one would think they'd be able to adapt, but clearly it's not that easy
Sebastian Vettell was a 4 time world champion, but in 2014 when the F1 rules changed he was nowhere. Didn't win a race & was regularly beaten by his teammate (Riccardo). Why? Because the car didn't suit him. It's not an excuse but a fact. Not all drivers get on with different cars.
Just like in Nascar,IndyNXT and other series, the lower feeder series’ don’t dictate how good or bad a top drive will be, they know what he can do in good F1 equipment and that’s what matters,Max skipped F2 and is one of the best ever now, Logan was really good in F2 and can’t do shit in F1. Dale Jr, Ricky Stenhouse, Sam Ard and Tyler Reddick are all back to back Nascar Xfinity Championships and yet none could get that Cup Series Championship. It happens in all forms Motorsports, All that matters is being good in the top series in the top cars and Ollie has shown with a good car he can finish well into the points
A lot of people are forgetting that prema is at their lowest point in years. They easily lost the championship with Vesti because in multiple races either the pit crew fucked something up, the strategy calls were abhorrent, or they just couldn't find the right set up. This year they were the last team to score a podium. Aix and trident got a podium before Prema did and it wasn't until Bearman got a sprint win. Both Kimi and Bearman have genuinely good pace but the Prema is holding them back massively.
A drivers f2 record don’t matter that much it matters your normally can’t be terrible but with all the reliability issues in f2 it don’t give teams a full window into what your capabable of until you get to drive an f1 car
I think that since they're in the same team and they face problems and Kimi is doing better than Bearman, it's reasonable for Merc to want him to race for them even for next year.
I only think he did well because he was in a Ferrari, and I will stand by that. I don’t think he’s the insane driver people make him out to be, he’s not bad but he’s not good
What's the point of even having the F2 championship at this point? The F1 teams just keep on giving the middle finger to the actual champions. Let'l hope he won't end up like Sargeant's rushed debut, but I have little hope.
So another Mick Schumacher situation? Will Haas ruin another Carrer? We will have to see , I wish him the best but Haas is eh with how they handle rookies
I mean they have only ever had 3, and they were using Mazepin anyway and kicked him to the curb as soon as they could so not exactly handling him badly. Basically just Mick who wasn't handled right.
The prema team is garbage this year and it's highlighted by the fact both drivers there are rated as the best of the lot and can't do anything with it.
Now that Steiner is gone, hopefully they won’t ruin Bearman’s whole career like they did Schumacher’s. Schumacher would be still at Sauber to be at Audi now if he’d started at Sauber instead
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158Mick started of his F1 career driving a terrible haas car and in his second year beat Magnussen in the race head to head and was the better driver in the second half of that season. Yes he crashed too many times and cost the team a lot of money but he definitely deserved a third season.
@@j.b.o6829 MSC cost Haas P6 in Constructors Championship in 2022. The Haas was very good in the first races. The points possible there would be enough for P6.
F2 is fugazi as all hell. A driver who finished 14th and 19th in two seasons of FRECA is competing for podiums, as is a driver who was nowhere until Bruno Michel became his manager. Meanwhile two of the best drivers in F3 a couple of years ago (who were rookie champion and vice-champion last year) are nowhere. As is the reigning Super Formula champion who may or may not have criticised the engines they use. Why should teams pay attention to F2 when there is no parity and every weekend is a total lottery due to the god awful reliability and massive engine disparity?
Makes me wonder why consider antonelli when sainz is just there! Like why not take Sainz for long term Unless they dont want to destroy Georgie boys leadership in the team
Mayby because Sainz is 12 years older then Antonelli, and despite him not having a greate F2 rookie season, there might be more future in him. Maybe also the 4 championships in 2 years, and winning 34 races in 95 attemps
“F1 has no fresh blood because mUh old drivers keep driving and hopping the seats away from young talent-F2 is useless!” and as soon as the opposite happens “Did you see his F2 results?” Never change,F1 establishment media,never change.
F1 experience does significantly more for a young driver than the F2 championship
Yep people seem to think you need to succeed in f2 to become a top f1 driver. F2/GP2/F3000/F2 again has existed since the 1950’s yet in those 70 years only 3 of the top feeder series champions have become f1 world champions (Brabham, Rosberg, Hamilton), it’s not the be all and end all that some fans make it out to be.
Hell just look at the current grid by their logic the likes of Albon, Tsunoda and Norris should be dropped in favour of De Vries as he raced in F2 and won the title which they failed to do and Vestappen shouldn’t even be in the f1 picture as he never even competed in the format.
Its not the f1 experience thats the main catalyst. F2 is NOT an equal series especially in the 1st season of new regulations. There are teams that are defo way bttr at setups which is making medicore drivers lead the championship while Bearman and Antonelli struggle. Honestly i thought it was bullshit that setups can influence a team's pace, but seeing how BEARMAN went frm 6th in 2023 to now 14th, i get the point ppl are tryna to make
Yea ask Nyck Devries how that went. 100s of hours in f1 machinery testing and a solid race at Monza but he still wasn’t very quucj
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 a lot of current F1 drivers are champions in lower category man your completely lost wow …. Charles , George Russel all F2 Champs man … Lando and lance F3 champions and a lot more I’m not gonna keep writing just do your research before saying all that
@@elcactusdelamuerte506however people like you pretend f2 doesn’t matter at all. You need to consider age and experience in f2 to be able to decide who is good and who isn’t. However also then it isn’t a 100% chance that they’ll succeed in f1
They need to have a race of just the f2 drivers in f1 cars as that's the only way to get into f1 now
Imagine if they used sprints for that
@@swidr5626That would be CRAZY
@@F1dude. and even more expensive. Young drivers with something to prove will cost unseen damage.
@@swidr5626 IVE BEEN SAYING THAT!!
At least with the previous car/ rules like the 2019 Max drove last week. That would be awesome
Well at least we get some rookies in F1 next year
rookies? or rookie? who is the other guy😊
@@ReefOozehe must be talking about that new guy… forget the name but the last name was Alonso
@@overdosedaniel6025 I hear he's very promising, might have the best rookie season ever, name was something like, Ferdinand, Nando?
Probably talking about Antonelli@@ReefOoze
@@illyricus.It's spelt *Antonio Giovinazzi, and he's already out of the sport sadly. The rookie he was speaking of is Fernando Alonso. Kimi (Räikkönen) may also make his F1 debut this year but we must wait and see.
I really hope haas give him a real chance and he proves that he’s f1 material. Super talented driver and very likeable
F2 is dead. The main idea was to give opportunity to young drivers to show their talents and maybe reach F1. and now the last 2 champions, Pourchaire and Drugovitch, are not even considered for a seat next season. Not saying that Bearman or Antonelli are not pure talents and world champion material, but what's the point for the other drivers to trying winning F2 if midfielders are going to be promoted instead?
So true! Now it is only academy drivers who get promoted. Drugovitch where a free agent so he could have signed for any team, but didnt get any eventhough he performed one of the most convincing F2 championship wins in recent years.. :/
It is true that since 2022 getting first in F2 no longer gives any guarantees.
Non-winners being promoted was always a thing, but usually they were top 3 drivers (like Albon, Tsunoda and Zhou who were promoted to F1 after coming 3rd in F2, and Latifi and Norris who were promoted after coming 2nd in F2).
So if Doohan (3rd) and Lawson (3rd) make it onto the grid, it is not unusual or unfair. But if drivers who are currently 8th (Antonelli) and 13th (Bearman) are promoted, while winners lose out on a seat, it does show that nowadays F2 results are not taken serious anymore.
I mean if Antonelli gets confirmed at Merc, I really would feel bad for both Hadjar/Aron/the person that wins F2 and Russell. Russell was 1st in F2 and had to wait years for a Merc seat, while Antonelli bottles his season and gets the seat before being put into a Williams?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Maybe These drivers should stop doing 3rd and 4th seasons. Because only THEN it doesn't matter if you wi F2.
If you are in the Top3 as a Rookie or win it in the 2nd season you will get a chance.
Also I am tired of some of these drivers like Verschoor, Hauger etc who try and try again but don't make any progress.
At this point they need to remove the rule that the champion cannot defend their title.
It seems that unless you are part of the manufacturer junior program, you can forget about a seat with the Big Dawgs. It the case of Drugovich, and Pourchaire that isn't a guarantee either.
man if Ayao can keep the trend of a strong midfield car this will be the perfect place for Bearman. If Steiner was still around Ollie would have to count his lucky stars
Bearman is a top quality driver. I raced him in karts. It’s fair to say that the Prema car isn’t as dominant as it has been. Although Antonelli is less experienced, he is also one of the worlds best. It’s not like Bearman hasn’t won in f2.
The comments are fighting so hard but I am just excited we getting some new people on the grid
we could have more new people, but F1 is basically a corpo product now
@@DdraigRazgriz
Always has been...
After a single good race, he joins an F1 team - good thing it worked well for De Vries!
Well it's a bit different here. De Vries was an FE world champion and F2 champion at that point but he also was quite old for a rookie, and in reality i don't think he was ever aiming for getting a full time seat in F1 at this point but got lucky. Bearman is still a junior who aims exactly for F1, is proving to be quick with Haas and is just super unlucky with Prema being such a disappointment this year. He was one of the stars last year in F2, and even if he will have a tough start he's only 19 anyways
@swidr5626 Yeah, de varies was 27 I belive? So big difference. Also the pressure of redbull obviously
Bearman had a great rookie season last year. Prema have genuinely been woeful this season and are in the midfield. As well as having bad luck and missing the weekend where he qualified on pole, that is why he isn’t doing great
@@nathanb286still getting outperformed by a teamate who has no experience in f3/f2 meanwhile this is ollies third season in f3/f2. And his rookie season was good but not THAT good. Not even as good as Nick.
@@askeladden450all that matters is performance in F1, Kobayashi was probably the best example of this when he was barely able to score points in GP2 but did wonders when he went to F1.
I saw his announcement video before the "BREAKING"
He’s definitely proved himself with that Ferrari drive at Jeddah this year.
Having experience in an F1 race heavily outweighs being an F2 champion or runner up
What if he becomes a 2nd Nyck de Vries?
@@LucifenaQuinn Nyck was 29 when he joined F1 and the Williams would have scored points with any decent driver as it is a rocket ship in a straight line in 2022. Also, Red Bull had no data on Nyck, while Haas and Ferrari have copious amounts of data
Lol what??? He was way worse than Lawson for example
Did he? Barely in the top 10 with the second fastest car at that time in the season.
@@WayStedYou "Barely in the top 10" He got P7 around one of the hardest tracks on the calendar, beat Hamilton and Norris
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I wonder how many more of these drivers would do well in f1 given the chance
Very-well deserved! Can't wait to see him on the grid
De Vries did the same, outstanding one off race but not consistency
I think there are f2 drivers who deserve it more
This feels like a 2nd Nyck De Vries for me
He is way better
Tell me you don't follow young driver careers without telling me.
Every rookie is a Nyck DeVries now, even if they were to be the Flash or Sonic the Hedgehog themselves.
just say you didn't watch him last year or in F3, save us time
@@YouthEnergy Bearman is very good, you will see
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@@rileyfair5 it was 4 when I posted it and probably way more now. Its just odd that the race would want that
Imagine being one of the championship contending F2 drivers right now, and you see all these guys in the midfield being signed or strongly tied to seats.
Case in point, I didn't even know the name of the championship leader.
So you don't watch f2?
Bearman has been so unlucky this season that you can't even imagine that's a reason why he so low and prema have not been so good so watch the sport before commenting please
@@NambiadiaaYou mean championship leader is leading only by luck?
@@f1david995 no I never said that I just said that if bearman had better luck he wouldn't be this midfield
Aren’t all f2 drivers kinda midfield at this stage? I’m struggling to point to one driver that stands out as a front runner
Also, let’s be real, you can be mediocre even, but if you have the looks and the personality, you’re in, speed is one thing, marketability is also crucial in modern f1
ARON AND HADJAR are the stand outs in F2. Haven’t you been watching?????
Money from his dad is the only thing. Haas needs money, his dad bought the seat. Just like Mazepin. And it will turn out the same.
@Redlingstein they are you're right but that Inforces this guys statement because although they are so much better to the eye than the rest and the points. They still don't get a look in so it makes sense
dont forget being British, helps in F1
So pretty privilege? Lol
I'd love to see a rule change to to make in mandatory for teams to not only grant a practice session to junior drivers but a whole quali and race as well
Im here for FP1 being mandated to HAVE to run a junior/reserve each weekend. It can alternate which full time driver sits out or not on a F2 weekend. Di Resta ran every FP1 in 2010 with Force India and im sure that was more than enough prep
Bearman is 4 times race win last year in f2 and this year prema has been shit.
People like to say that he was in one of the fastest cars on the grid and that's the only reason he did well, but they don't get it. He found out mere hours before FP3 that he'd be getting into the car, and then managed to nearly outqualify seven time world champion Lewis Hamilton with little practice in the car and little experience in F1 as a whole. Not to mention he finished in the points and pulled off some pretty impressive overtakes, all the while his neck went to shit from the G forces. Ollie definitely earned an opportunity for next year, and I feel like Haas is making the right choice.
When I was in honda cadets his kart was the one I drove, dad still has it in the garage
Every F1 Km is more important than any F2 season. That shows you the value of a good F2 season for a F1 seat
This is downplaying a lot of what Haas had to say was the reason, they like him because hes not just a pure driver like so many of the others are, he knows the car and can speak to the engineers in the right language about the car and how it's performing, that means a lot, especially to a team like Haas that are looking to becoming podium contenders. Having a driver that young that they can invest in and that can actually help them make their car faster will make Haas contenders
Yea, it’s a general rule of thumb, in regard to the lower formulas, that you want to compare the drivers against their team mates. You know, like what is done in f1 …. ‘Cause sometimes teams don’t get it right with the cars.
Even though it’s a spec series there is a lot of things that can be done setup wise. Heck, look at the different levels of performance f1 teams show over the course of a single GP weekend. Aside from being able to change out the rear wing (I believe) all those things are adjustable on a spec car too. & f2/f3 cars are much less dependent on downforce as well for their performance.
Bearman was always going to be at Haas. The only question is. Who will be his teammate? As KMag has done alot this year for him to lose his seat.
Good luck to him I hope all goes well for him.
nyck de vris also was really good at his debut...
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F2 does not mean anything. The two drivers considered as the top talents within F1 circles are 9th and 14th, meanwhile arguably last year’s quickest driver is 17th.
And the video explained why that is... it is nothing about F2 not meaning anything.
I think they should keep Magnussen. Experience and young talent is a good combination 👌
I‘ve heard there looking for Ocon
@@LucifenaQuinn💀
@@LucifenaQuinnI hope so, he’s a pretty good driver and it would be a shame if he leaves F1. People just like to hate on him 🤦🏻♂️
@@overdosedaniel6025I don't like to hate him, but I have to admit that he's kind of a shitter
Magnussen doesn't want to train a rookie. However HAAS has no choice. Ocon isn't a team player. Bottas will prefer Williams or even alpine. So it's basically Magnussen or I guess Zhou for the money.
Haas really saying, eh he's good enough
Let's talk about Antonelli now.
Finally someone's talking about this!!! This guy and Antonelli, I have no idea the hype behind them.
Well he is going to be in traffic in F1 so it is good that he is hanging out in the mid field to get experience at race pace.
“ the car didn’t suit his driving style “ sounds like a Daniel Riccardo-esq excuse
I think for Danny Ric, it is a real excuse though because clearly he didn't have any trouble in the Red Bull or Renault. That being said, one would think they'd be able to adapt, but clearly it's not that easy
Sebastian Vettell was a 4 time world champion, but in 2014 when the F1 rules changed he was nowhere. Didn't win a race & was regularly beaten by his teammate (Riccardo). Why? Because the car didn't suit him. It's not an excuse but a fact. Not all drivers get on with different cars.
Just like in Nascar,IndyNXT and other series, the lower feeder series’ don’t dictate how good or bad a top drive will be, they know what he can do in good F1 equipment and that’s what matters,Max skipped F2 and is one of the best ever now, Logan was really good in F2 and can’t do shit in F1. Dale Jr, Ricky Stenhouse, Sam Ard and Tyler Reddick are all back to back Nascar Xfinity Championships and yet none could get that Cup Series Championship. It happens in all forms Motorsports, All that matters is being good in the top series in the top cars and Ollie has shown with a good car he can finish well into the points
A lot of people are forgetting that prema is at their lowest point in years. They easily lost the championship with Vesti because in multiple races either the pit crew fucked something up, the strategy calls were abhorrent, or they just couldn't find the right set up. This year they were the last team to score a podium. Aix and trident got a podium before Prema did and it wasn't until Bearman got a sprint win. Both Kimi and Bearman have genuinely good pace but the Prema is holding them back massively.
He still has more points in F1 than Logan Sargent so I don’t think anyone can complain 😂
Hass is probably got a worse car than Prema in F2 💀
Dont think he would be able to "throw the car around" with Haas either
Let's not forget about how good his F2 season was last year as a rookie when he actually had a good car
His family is filthy rich, case closed.
A drivers f2 record don’t matter that much it matters your normally can’t be terrible but with all the reliability issues in f2 it don’t give teams a full window into what your capabable of until you get to drive an f1 car
I was certain this was about Kimi Antonelli. I think he’s in 10th with no F1 experience this year meanwhile Oliver missed races and is 14th
We need more than verstappen on the grid
F3 third place got an f1 seat and now hes the best
I think that since they're in the same team and they face problems and Kimi is doing better than Bearman, it's reasonable for Merc to want him to race for them even for next year.
It’s always just a ‘multi year’ deal now, say how many! 🗣️
The number of years wasn't made clear as the team has yet to find out what he'll do to see if he's worth keeping around for another year.
@@hmmxp5551exactly. It’s probably a 1+1 sort of deal
1 +1. It always is. Testing 1st year, possibly another year. Bad performance, then out after 1 year.
I pray this doesn't go down the De Vries route
Get Theo in F1 😩😩😩
Get Aron,Hadjar and Bortoleto in F1
OLIVER BEARMAN EL MAGO DEL MOTOR
Why doesnt f1 on their app post this, they havent done it for gasly, stroll and noe bearman
Cuteness & Britishness are the most important factors to get into F1
Just create a new f2 with older f1 cars so that they can get experience at this point
Kimi and Oliver are low in the f2 championship because f2 is not a spec series
Next years F1 intro is gonna be nice. First Lewis in Ferrari, then Oliver Bearman in Haas, and then likely Antonelli in Mercedes/Williams.
I love all the comments saying f2 doesn’t count but every pundit downplaying Doohans f2 for only winning the last few races- make your mind up
I only think he did well because he was in a Ferrari, and I will stand by that. I don’t think he’s the insane driver people make him out to be, he’s not bad but he’s not good
I wouldn’t consider Ollie as a midfielder. He’s a front runner who’s been limited with Prema’s struggles.
He's not undeserving, just overhyped
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I thought Haas had given up on Rookies after Mick and Mazepin
Other team principal
All the teams are afraid of missing The Next Max.
What's the point of even having the F2 championship at this point? The F1 teams just keep on giving the middle finger to the actual champions.
Let'l hope he won't end up like Sargeant's rushed debut, but I have little hope.
Bah we all know that the way into F1 has to do with money and backing
He’s so low in F2 standing because he missed out on one weekend worth of F2 races? Not too sure about that …
Liam Lawson needs a seat . He one of the best drivers not in a F1
Sounds like someone's daddy is loaded.
Definitely bots in first few comments
Probably has money backing him up
So another Mick Schumacher situation? Will Haas ruin another Carrer? We will have to see , I wish him the best but Haas is eh with how they handle rookies
Bearman is a weak driver. Period. That has nothing to do with Haas. He will be like Nyck, overrated and gone soon.
I mean they have only ever had 3, and they were using Mazepin anyway and kicked him to the curb as soon as they could so not exactly handling him badly. Basically just Mick who wasn't handled right.
Antonelli to merc or williams
How? By being British definitely add some points.
The prema team is garbage this year and it's highlighted by the fact both drivers there are rated as the best of the lot and can't do anything with it.
Now that Steiner is gone, hopefully they won’t ruin Bearman’s whole career like they did Schumacher’s. Schumacher would be still at Sauber to be at Audi now if he’d started at Sauber instead
Or he would've still underperformed and got canned for someone else.
Let's not pretend that Mick wasn't mediocre at best.
Lmao. Sauber would have still ditched him to get the sweet sweet Chinese money from Zhou.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158Mick started of his F1 career driving a terrible haas car and in his second year beat Magnussen in the race head to head and was the better driver in the second half of that season. Yes he crashed too many times and cost the team a lot of money but he definitely deserved a third season.
Schumacher destroyed his career himself.
@@j.b.o6829 MSC cost Haas P6 in Constructors Championship in 2022. The Haas was very good in the first races. The points possible there would be enough for P6.
Midfielder? Blud was fighting for the title. Won a few races what bruv?
Saying an F2 midfielder is so disrespectful. Ollie is probably the best driver on the grid. Its just the prema does not understand their car
“Throw the car around” It seems he want s to follow in the footsteps of mazespin and mick the maniac
F2 is fugazi as all hell. A driver who finished 14th and 19th in two seasons of FRECA is competing for podiums, as is a driver who was nowhere until Bruno Michel became his manager. Meanwhile two of the best drivers in F3 a couple of years ago (who were rookie champion and vice-champion last year) are nowhere. As is the reigning Super Formula champion who may or may not have criticised the engines they use.
Why should teams pay attention to F2 when there is no parity and every weekend is a total lottery due to the god awful reliability and massive engine disparity?
Hes not a midfielder. Prema just didnt get these cars right
Not to forget that Ferrari probably pays to get him in that car.
His seat is bought yes. Haas needs money.
Is marketing all that matters?
I hope for this guy that its not a DeVries moment again.
It will be a Mazepin and Nyck situation. Bought seat, Haas needs despirate money.
What's this 'Harse' team you talk of?
No more buttered scones for me mater, I'm orf to play my grand piano, pardon me whilst I fly my aeroplane.
Wow a midfielder gets a seat instead of the pack leaders of F2...??????
If F1 teams doesn't care about results and experience, then they shouldn't hire new drivers in the first place
Prema was absolutely nowhere
He’s only a midfielder because he missed a race
"impressed Haas"? More like Ferrari would cut all of the resources at Haas if he wasn't signed
We need rules to not accept a pilot not being 3rd in the championship
But Verstappen, Kimi and Vettel didn’t do F2 and they are all world champions.
Bruh, does his results last year not count or what?
Makes me wonder why consider antonelli when sainz is just there! Like why not take Sainz for long term
Unless they dont want to destroy Georgie boys leadership in the team
Mayby because Sainz is 12 years older then Antonelli, and despite him not having a greate F2 rookie season, there might be more future in him. Maybe also the 4 championships in 2 years, and winning 34 races in 95 attemps
Haas doesn't appear to care about his F2 results. They care about his dad's money.
Sainz looked like a gang boss pointing at his new prospect
Why do you keep calling him beer-man? His name is bear-man, pronounced bare-man.
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“F1 has no fresh blood because mUh old drivers keep driving and hopping the seats away from young talent-F2 is useless!” and as soon as the opposite happens “Did you see his F2 results?”
Never change,F1 establishment media,never change.
F2 midfielder is click bait, gave up pole to race for Ferrari and has been quite unlucky and the Prema doesn’t look amazing this year.
Let's be honest, Ferrari wanted him there and Haas obliged. I'm ok with it.