Kingdom Hearts Bending Over Backwards to Avoid the K Word
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- Sometimes Kingdom Hearts avoids saying "kill" like the plague and other times it just doesn't care. I just found it interesting.
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Imagine your loved one has died and you tell everyone by saying "ey yo jimmy has fallen, his scent is gone"
"I'm sorry... Your wife was struck down in a car accident."
"Ma'am? We found the responsible for deep-sixing you husband."
@@MrMrsirr”She’s been annihilated”
@@MrMrsirrI feel like it implies she was some sort of villain lol
Jimmy has fallen... billions must weep
Just say "kiss" already
Four of you have tried to kiss me in the past, and one of you actually succeeded
Your gonna watch me kiss Terra and aqua
you can't be too happy about him kissing your master
@@moonplume i think that one was a bit more than kissing
"Axel kissed him...something I find deplorable-
Agents of the Organization kissing eachother."
"choking the life out of" still sounds metal af tho
For sure!
"By eliminating your existence" is a pretty good alternative too.
Oh shit ghost trick styled pfp
It's so in character for Vanitas. Even if they COULD say "There you're gonna see me kill Terra and Aqua", it just wouldn't be in character of him.
@@JackieJKENVtuber
Si 😁
“Deep-sixing your master” sounds COMPLETELY different to a delinquent mind. 💀
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I know what you are.
Only to the ignorant portion of zoomers tbh
Deep-sixing lolol sounded like something else. Got me thinking for "6 Feet Deep" right?
@@NarfireVA Kids will be kids. c:
My favorite scene, regarding this scenario, is with Hades in Dark Road.
When Xehanort tells him they're looking for someone who "disappeared," Hades straight up said, "'Disappeared?' Ohhh, right. Mortals--always have to sugarcoat everything. Well, personally, I prefer 'dead.'"
I think the only way death really works in the kh universe is if your body and heart die at the same time, as sora is a special case he didn't die, but was booted from his reality. And the organization 13 as it was in chain of memories and kh2 never really existed in the same way as complete people so saying die wouldn't really make alot of sense.
@@10tailedbijuu I think that's pretty much confirmed. In any case, there's actually been a lot of death in the KH universe, a literal war of body counts. The Final world showcases people who perished, but are tethered by lingering regrets, kind of like a purgatory, and we've seen it happen to wielders who perish alongside their Chirithies. The case I don't particularly understand is Strelitzia, but all I can do there is speculate and theorize based on breadcrumbs left by Nomura.
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that explains it all
"I am the lord of the DEAD!"
"Hmph. No wonder no one wants to die."
Axel: literally incinerated Vexen with a snap of his fingers.
Lexaeus: "He was *struck down* "
To be fair, I think he just slashed him with his Chakram in GBA Chain of Memories.
You mean fucking microwaved like a god damn cup of delicious Cup Noodles (message paid for by Final Fantasy 15)
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@@shanegiorgio4713He did. Quite literally cut him down from behind like a seppuku finisher, minus the beheading of course. They also changed Lexaeus's death from a last moment suicide to drag Riku into the darkness released from his death to Riku being knocked unconscious and Ansem taking over and one shot flash slicing Lexaeus.
He was snapped out of life
I think it mostly works, but annihilate by Jack Sparrow was pretty weird XD
Nah I thought it was funny
Lowkey Roxas too at 1:05
Does “strike me down” work better?
They changed a line from the movie, so that makes it even more jarring.
@@SonicTimewarp Only if it makes you stronger than people can possibly imagine
I love how nonchalantly the Evil Queen just says "kill her" in contrast to basically everyone else avoiding the word like the plague.
They're quoting an 80 year old movie with the original characters. I think it was okay for that one
"Deep-sixing" is still my favorite example of this lol
Out of all of them that one felt like a stylistic choice because of the way Braig often speaks so charismatically
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What's that mean?
@@lucylu3342 6 feet under
Deep-sixing does not sound like killing though, it sounds...gay
Im sorry, but Vanitus literally saying he's going to "choke the life out of Terra and Aqua" is straight up the darkest line delivery in probably the entire series, they can not say "kill" all they want, that there took the cake for me.
Vanitus is the type of sadistic sicko to think killing is the easy way to go.
It reminds me when execs at machinama forced their workers to stop saying rape or gay in videos, so some workers started saying the most abhorrent shit using tamer words in protest until they got their "naughty word license" reinstated
Bro sounded like he was reading off a script, where's the emotion
I dunno, an emotionless killer is relatively darker
his emotions are the unversed right? he didnt have any emotion left@@mrmarben8704
“…by eliminating your existence” actually goes hard ngl
If Xehanort taught us anything, existence in KH is VERY persistent. Threatening to leave nothing left of it would imply a fuck ton of power.
@@excalibur493 Holy shit that’s so badass
Meet me at the Keyblade Strikedown yard!
What time?
@@edgeofultima7483The disappeared of night, of course.
sounds like an arena
Keyblade Annihilation yard
meanwhile saix literally says he wants to watch you die lol
_As if_ that was the same as saying the word kill (i'm just joking as per the first 2 words in this sentence).
If you lose to Data Saix, he says, “Back to dust!” which is pretty cool ass way to get around the K Word rule.
Saix don't give a shit, he's crazy 💀
I feel like that line was snuck in. “I want to see you die fighting”, because you just barely hear him say it as a battle line.
They just extending the word count to meet the word requirements
What does Kingdom Hearts and a college student writing an essay have in common?🤣
@@edgeofultima7483 Complexity and Not being able to pay ren- oh wait that last one is just college students
Jack saying annihalate is the only weird one but its so funny. Also choke the life out of someone is so much hardcore in a good way
That's what I thought! The others didn't feel so out of place
Yeah, I don’t know why, but Kingdom Hearts feels like a world where you can say someone is “struck down” and that’s just how you say they were killed. Maybe it fits the dramatic mood?
It’s funny cause it’s lifted from a real scene where he doesn’t say annihilate. Every other word is the same lol
I like how avoiding “kill’ forces them to get creative. Though as no one stays dead forever in this series, having their corporeal forms “annihilated” temporarily actually makes sense.
Not entirely true. Eraqus hasn't been resurrected in any way. Coming back as a ghost for two minutes doesn't count.
By avoiding "kill" it makes the dialogue sound even more like a bad translation.
You basically can have 3 lives in this game : your normal one , a heartless one and if you were strong enough à nobody’s one. Sure you’ll probably never be what Ansem was as a heartless (I think he was the only one besides Sora and Terra who remained himself as a heartless, as we have never met the heartless of the Org 13) but as you and your nobody are struck down you will respawn 😂
Agreed, avoiding the word actually works a lot better in some of these
All the nobodies and heartless aren't actual dying, and the unversed were never really alive, so it makes sense with then
Ven's "put an end to me" line should have been in here. He could have just asked his friends to "kill me" but he didn't.
I can't believe I forgot that one! It's one of the most important ones!
the original japanese was commonly fan translated as "erase me" irrc
that line of his is so tragic :(
I personally think the death works differently in their universe.
Okay, to be fair.
Saying "struck down" is a bit more funny for Eraqus when he's voiced by Mark Hamill and a certain other franchise he knows really loves that phrase-
Eraqus became a force ghost in a way too, didn't he. Keyblade wielders and Jedi have a lot in common when you think about it.
@@skyrunnerblake1481 keyblade wielders are like if jedi got the force from their lightsabers lol
@@skyrunnerblake1481Terra and Xehanort are literally just Anakin and Sidious but remixed a little.
Strike me down, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
@@TheLateLordKardok That would be the one.
This is like the old school english dub of Dragonball Z, always talking about sending people to "another dimension" or "the next dimension".
"Look, I can see their parachutes!" or "Dude, my truck!"
What about the Shadow Realm made popular by YugiOh’s 4Kids dub?
"Too bad it's sunday, that Kingdom Hearts would have been filled tomorrow."
It’s weird hearing Jack say annihilate when pirates don’t normally say the k word instead saying:
- Davey Jones locker
- Sleeping with the fishes
- Walk the plank
- Run me through
- turn to fish chum
strike me timbers down
Considering that in the actual movie, Jack was already literally sent to Davy Jones' Locker, that line would fit so well I think.
Choke the life out of Terra and Aqua sounds like killing anyways. It is just adding more words to it. 😅
Sounds more visceral too!
They’ll avoid this word, but Axel and Maleficent saying “hell?” No no, that’s okay.
Hell is probably an actual world in kingdom hearts
@@-JaggedGrace- But Axel did say Hell as a curse word in GBA Chain of Memories.
@@SeanWheeler100Same with Sam Flynn in DDD
@@SeanWheeler100yeah it shocked me when I was 7 playing CoM haha
Why would saying hell not be ok?
And yet they have more of an impact than the word kill. Except for when Jack sparrow said it. That feels off
You're not wrong. They even got creative with some of them too!
For Jack, I'd have gone with "take me out", something more casual that better fits his pirate vocab.
I didn't even notice it when playing, not that I hear it here it sounds so goofy, but hilarious too😂😂
Personally, I would have kept the word "kill" just for that world, because they're pirates and it's a more realistic world. Also Sora and the gang watched Will get killed by Davy Jones later on
@@swishfish8858”some of you even tried to take me out, but you wanted to split the bill and I am not a cheap date”
0:26 I love the ide that "kill" is somehow too much for kids but they expect them to understand "deplorable"
I think they only really allow the k word if the "k"ing in general doesn't actually happen. When it does all of a sudden it's striking down and annihilating
Feel like Snow White's Queen really meant to kill her
@@Xiassen Snow White feels like an exception since she *did* technically die, but came back. Considering the temporary nature of her death, maybe they considered that fine
Every kiss begins with K
I think the difference between both is that instances of the word "kill" are used loosely as expression rather than actual instances of murder. Some of them might also be because they're accurate to the original Disney movies, so they get a pass. I noticed this in Union X as well, any Disney world story that involved death in some way would use the word "kill" whenever, but main story plot that happens in Daybreak Town uses "disappear" or anything similar.
Yeah, I definitely noticed the being accurate to the Disney movie thing during editing. Ironically, enough most of the characters that actually say the word kill are Disney characters with the only exception being Larxene. Although, the times that she and Donald say it are the less literal interpretations.
@@edgeofultima7483 Except for the Pirates of the Caribbean scene. They changed Jack's line from "four of you have tried to kill me in the past" to "four of you have tried to annihilate me in the past". It's especially jarring because that scene takes place in Davy Jones' Locker, a hellscape for those who have died after wronging Davy Jones in some way.
@thantus9315, your point about being accurate to the disney films is most obvious with the evil queen.
Then there's Dark Road, where Hades disregards the term, "disappeared" as mortals trying to sugarcoat everything, and says he pefers the term "dead." Lol
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I read the title and my dumb ass thought "Kairi?"
cut to Roxas: "You're that girl he likes"
Namine in CoM: "the most important person to you, it's not me, it's Her"
I was thinking Kingdom 😂
I mean, "annihilate" is a very cool substitute for--
"Four of you tried to annihilate me."
He would not say that ..
Would've worked as 'tried to off me' way better.
I believe that because of this Sora actually thought Riku could be dead when Roxas told him that he defeated a Riku once.
1:37 Yozora's appearance
Bravo Tetsuya
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1:00 honestly im less weirded out by the word “annihilate” and more by the stress on the word “you.” Like.. yeah? He’s obviously the one you would annihilate for that. Cause he’s the one who did it. He says it like it’s some kinda reversal or something, it’s weird
That's one of the only games where the lip flaps weren't adjusted for the English version, so they had to match the Japanese ones. It leads to some odd deliveries.
@@CrazyRiverOtter its because originally the cutscenes were pre-rendered in the PS2 version
I guess they didn't want to rerecord takes and/or reanimate for the HD versions which do render it realtime.
@@CrazyRiverOtter that makes sense, but i'm just confused as to why they couldn't have just changed the word order around? i feel the the stress and animation would look fine if they just said something like "i will have you ANNIHILATED!"
People need to say stuff like this instead of "unalive".
I agree unalive is so cringe
I will choke the spark of life out of my existence if this trend continues...
But I like the word unalive, it's funny
I think for the most part it really makes the dialogue more colorful. Something you can never accuse KH of not being.
Bro why is the music so calm when Vanitas says he wants to choke the life out of Terra and Ventus
Its playing Ventus' theme, probably because its an important scene concerning his story, but does result in the music having a more sad tone than the ominous one you'd expect from that scene.
When you have to reach a page/word requirement for an essay be like:
I can't believe I've never noticed this before! Though it makes me think of the chat feature in Union Cross where it wouldn't let you type the k word but it also stopped you from typing "skill" which was rather annoying.
For sure! I remember they also used to have a built-in censor for kh1 when you were naming the raft or your gummy ships and Birth by Sleep when they let you rename your finishers.
@edgeofultima7483 Ah, didn't know that either as I tended to just call the raft Excalibur and didn't bother changing the names of the finishers.
I also remember chatting to my party: "Whoops. Accidentally killed the boss", because they were all meant to get into the battle before I killed it. Union X' chat had other ideas though, so what everyone actually read was
"Whoops. Accidentally ****ed the boss"
Yeah, that definitely can't get interpreted in any other way. Thanks, chat filter
@kev1nno Yes that is unfortunate...
@@kev1nno they made it so much worse 😂
It honestly makes sense for most of these characters to talk this way. But when you get to Jack Sparrow, that's when it stops making sense. With all due respect to Jack, his vocabulary was very limited due to his time. I don't think he would use the word "annihilate."
Disney characters built different
@Neiheim90 We been usin that word since the first animated feature film
1:37 foreshadowing kh3 right there
Axel knew all along!🤣
I love how Dark Road somewhat lampshades this, and of course frickin HADES is the one to do so.
Oh of course. Hades is the Lord of the Dead. He is not afraid to say the word "kill".
God, realizing this struck me down hard.
The power of subtext dialogue. KH dialogue can be cringy at times but in these cases they're impactful.
At least they're not saying "send him to the Shadow Realm" or "Next dimension".
Which is funny, because that's literally what happens when people die in KH! Or at least to the ones who have their Hearts taken by Darkness.
send them to Brazil
honestly they made vanitas' lines more violent by doing this..
tbf very few people and characters actually die in this series
they used to, before nomura went full dragon ball 😭
And the ones that do usually come - with a few exceptions of course *cough* Eraqus *cough.*
(Not including everyone in the Keyblade Graveyard)
The exceptions are all hypotheticals. It’s fine to mentioning killing so long as it’s a killing that never actually happens. (Cloud doesn’t kill Hercules, Daisy doesn’t kill Donald, Larxene is speaking metaphorically, Terra doesn’t kill Snow White)
"There you will see me choke the life out of Terra and Aqua"
Eh to be fair some of these are better off with the replacement.
"There you will see me kill of Terra and Aqua"
Just doesn't sound as manacling.
"there you will see me choke the life out of terra and aqua" sounds so hardcore I love vanitas for that
And yet both BBS and DDD managed to throw “hell” in.
And Chain of Memories in its original release, though the console remake changes Axel's line
Sleeping Beauty
Maleficent: See for yourself. All the powers of HELL!
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Judge Claude Frollo: This is an unholy demon. I am sending it back to hell, where it belongs.
Later: Sings Hellfire song.
(These happened in the movie not in the game but I wanted to point it out.)
Tron Legacy
Sam: Yeah, well that is one hell of a way to live.
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories Game Boy Advance edition
Axel: It's about time you gave me one hell of a show!
When you think about it, Kingdom Hearts has been avoiding RUclips censorship longer than RUclips itself has...
Most of the characters who die in this series do find a way back, even if only briefly. All the slain Nobodies and Heartless reunite into the original human. Hearts get preserved inside of other people. Resurrections, time travel, clones, etc.
You silly billy, this is a Kingdom Hearts game. No one can die.
Of all the people to not say 'kill', why Jack Sparrow? He's not doing some exaggerated sentence or figure of speech in that scene, so why the weird wording? Many of these can be somewhat reasoned, like for nobodies the whole meaning of existence is already twisted to begin with, and others like Braig just have their own way of speaking. Hence Jack is the most confusing one.
KEYBLADE!
Okay I believe you
_DARKNESS_
While the word “disappeared” is a really goofy dance around saying dying, “choke the life out of” or “take ___ ‘s life” is really dark and chilling (in a good way)
To be fair, when referring to Nobodies, the K word isn’t exactly an accurate description of what happens when they’re struck down.
true, although for the most part I don't think they would have actually known that
I feel like in most instances of this, it sounds better with the word play.
But since they've used kill before, idk why they couldn't have let Jack say it, lol.
I thought the "k" word was supposed to be "Kingdom" or "key".
But apparently, it's "kill" according to the description.
i thought it was kike
Or by like.. watching the video..?
@thephonelad992 there isn't a commentator explicitly saying "Kingdom Hearts seems to be be bending over itself to avoid saying "kill" ". Couldn't have guessed what the title was talking about from the video alone.
God, so many of these are so clean that I never questioned it as a kid, but some of them it's like come on, just say it already
Thirteenth Discretion is the ost of "we can't say the K word but you know what happened"
Deadpool on Disney spiderman literally says I can't say the k word.
This has got to be a video game rating system thing because even the old Disney movies didn’t care about saying the word kill or not
Kingdom Hearts is just a few steps away from having its own "Shadow Realm"
Master Xehanort: “Go take what Ventus owes you, *and take Aqua’s life!”*
I mean, that’s pretty direct 🤷🏽♂️
Bioenergi used to have a no "kill" policy. In Link's Awakening there was a miniboss who said something like "I'll k-k... destroy you!"
Every time I hear "Struck down" "Smooth criminal" starts playing in my head.
This reminds me when Dragon Ball Z Kai was on Nicktoons and they would say a character "was defeated" after they were just murdered on screen.
Jack Sparrow in the original Pirates 3: Four of you have tried to kill me in the past one of you succeeded (Spoken quickly)
Jack Sparrow in Kingdom Hearts 3: Four of you have tried to annihilate me (Spoken slowly)
It feels so weird to hear it spoken slower in KH3 XD
Both the PotC worlds have the most embarrassing line deliveries. It's so painful to hear lines from the films robbed of all energy like that. From a storytelling perspective, they are my least favorite parts of 2 and 3.
@@ShadowMuppetX EUGH That is such the truth. The discount jack sparrow did a good job of sounding like Depp, but he did not put the same energy into the line delivery and it SHOWS
KH would have a field day with the Shadow Realm.
Aqua didn't though 😅
well, at least they’re being creative with it instead of just saying “unalive” every damn time.
Jacks version is the funniest because we know what the real world quote was. It's so jarring.
I was waiting for someone to say, “I’ll make you un-alive.”
No joke going into this video I thought the K-word was “Keyblade” because of the amount of times they say it.
My favorite example of getting around saying it sounding worse is in gravity falls - "I've got some children I need to turn into corpses*
It’s the context of the using kill and just the essence of the world
Dwarf Woodlands probably had it to fit the darker tone of Snow White
Olympus Colosseum probably had it cause well it’s Hades
And the res of the provided examples are kill used as a figure of speec
The only one that causes me pain is Jack Sparrow's line. But then again, most of the lines in the PotC worlds make me want to die when I hear them. The writing and direction for those is just so misguided every time. It's not even about not having the original voice actors, it's about there being almost no energy in the voice work.
I convinced that the whole Kindom Hearts franchise is a Seperoth's feaver dream from regenerating in Jenova pod.
Kingdom Hearts 🤝 Avatar the last Airbender
Avoid saying the word "Kill"
Bruh "Eliminating your existence" is an insane claim to make
Even with all these examples, it never feels like the characters are saying anything out of character in order to avoid saying "kill." Almost every single line (aside from Jack Sparrow saying "annihilate" cuz he'd 100% say "kill") feels like a natural thing the character would say.
This has the same energy as Pokédex entries trying to avoid the word “kill” so they just make it more terrifying by saying “drains the life force of”
2:28 Honestly I think it's just in character for Braig to call it "deep-sixing"
3:00 I thought Donald said “No no no, Disney would kill me!”
Just a reminder, the first game kept the Queen of Hearts' obsession with beheading her subjects, though the Aladdin scene where Iago straight up said "beheaded" wasn't included as Agrabah takes place after Aladdin met the genie.
Vexen: *gets atomised*
"He was struck down"
Tell me “eliminating your existence” doesn’t sound cooler and more gruesome than “killed”
Funny how I find this video 13 days after the upload. Truly, Nomura foresaw this. Also, you can get pretty hardcore without using "kill" outright. Vanitas is proof of that.
The title made me think that "key" was the word. And I was like "no way."
1:09 Missed opportunity to say something like "sent into oblivion"
Really retconned the original line from Pirates of the Caribbean At Worlds End
Yet when battling saix he says i want to see you die fighting
I know, Goofy, mostly tame in a Disney-Square game
emphasis on MOSTLY
They actually did use killed in 358/2 days
I like how half of these sound perfectly fine the way they are. And then there's the other half... 😅
most of these end up being more intense than the word kill anyway
I can't believe all of those poor people were so cruelly sent to the other dimension like that.
Fools! No one ever truly dies in kingdom hearts xD
What gets me the most is the inconsistency with it. The Evil Queen is allowed to say Kill since it's in line with the original movie script, but Jack Sparrow says "annihilate" instead of Kill in a scene that's otherwise word-for-word accurate to the original script.
It's not a context thing either. Donald says Daisy would "kill" him in a figurative sense. but then, Hades tells Cloud to "kill" Hercules. Much more literal.
Kingdom Hearts has always been a silly franchise when it comes to this stuff, I guess you could say it's part of the charm of it.
It's like Teen Titans when they would say "destroy", "get rid of", "annihilate" anything that even sounded like kill or die. Even after Slade died it was still "he's gone", "Terra took you down, WAY down"
I mean...
Some of this could be in-character avoiding harsher language to show sympathy, like saying "we lost our father" indead of "our father died". Or "Braig" being the oppositly disrespectful with "deep-sixing". Or Ventus being drammatic in the moment with "put an end to me". Vanitas saying that he's going to "choke the life out of them" makes a harsher threat than saying he'll kill them. And Xehanort uses flowerly language all the time.
Also, I don't think you can say that the Organization members are getting "killed" because we know they don't exactly die
So besides a few rough cases like with Jack, a lot of it is fits pretty well.
To be fair, "strike down" sounds so much more dramatic, and ambiguous enough to bring someone back at any time.
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