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  • @stickthelanding4785
    @stickthelanding4785 Год назад +237

    I never realized how badly he’s been treated until a couple months ago.
    It’s sad how he and Spider-Man are constantly getting shafted by the writers.

    • @Willow-cw9te
      @Willow-cw9te Год назад +31

      It’s because you can’t have it all in comic stories; you can’t be hot, smart, compassionate, have golden morals, witty, have a hot stable girlfriend, a nice ass, AND have your life go peacefully. The comic writers won’t allow it 😢

    • @AdeptKing
      @AdeptKing Год назад +9

      I think Parker’s life ending would have been better than the mess they made of his life right now.

  •  Год назад +1152

    Nightwing is not the only character that DC hates. DC hates Wally West and they hate The Watchmen Universe

    • @slowcookerhomeplanet
      @slowcookerhomeplanet Год назад +54

      Atleast wally is the current flash

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 Год назад +79

      At least Dick and Wally are in a much better place now than they were 5 years ago. Nightwing and the Titans are now the new premier team since the JL have all moved on and Wally is the current Flash.

    • @kchikwete
      @kchikwete Год назад +21

      They wrote themselves into a 30 year old corner, Grayson is too iconic to be a Batman successor yet now seems like a Daredevil clone to normies. Morrison tried to fix it but...

    • @waterpillar1977
      @waterpillar1977 Год назад +25

      I mean it could be worse at DC doesn't hate Nightwing like marvel hates peter Parker spider man

    • @AceTheBatHound99
      @AceTheBatHound99 Год назад +1

      They don't hate *The Watchmen*
      Alan Moore literally kept them from expanding upon the story for 25 years.
      *Because Alan Moore hates DC*

  • @Gabe_Cross
    @Gabe_Cross Год назад +508

    At this point, Nightwing should just retire. They clearly don't want him to succeed. Maybe he can open up a chain of restaurants or something. He could call the business Night Wings. A percentage of the earnings from the business can be donated to Crime Stoppers or something so he can still do something to help fight crime.

    • @EpicMinecraftFail
      @EpicMinecraftFail Год назад +55

      Night wings 😂

    • @marxvargas7697
      @marxvargas7697 Год назад +16

      Bro, some villains won't follow the "it's so obvious, it ain't him" trope.

    • @jaimefalco8682
      @jaimefalco8682 Год назад +25

      @@EpicMinecraftFailThat’s actually such a creative restaurant name though😂

    • @Zhello79
      @Zhello79 Год назад +9

      Lol technically that happened in Forever Evil, ended up becoming a spy after that.

    • @selfimprovement5873
      @selfimprovement5873 Год назад +3

      Naw you dirty for this comment 😂

  • @RhyperiorRanger
    @RhyperiorRanger Год назад +1259

    I’m tired of Nightwing getting the hate that Damien Wayne deserves

    • @Vergil14
      @Vergil14 Год назад +94

      YES! Someone else finally said it!

    • @RhyperiorRanger
      @RhyperiorRanger Год назад +74

      @@Vergil14 I hate Damien with a PASSION

    • @Vergil14
      @Vergil14 Год назад +22

      @@RhyperiorRanger so do I

    • @alexandredesouza3692
      @alexandredesouza3692 Год назад +1

      Damien fucking sucks! All he ever does is brood and complain. Give me Nightwing!

    • @randomreactionstv2721
      @randomreactionstv2721 Год назад +26

      Damien Wayne is a cool character he’s my 2 favorite in the bat family a kid raised by assassins that’s cool’s asf lol

  • @TrueUnderDawgGaming
    @TrueUnderDawgGaming Год назад +23

    It actually bothers me a lot. Nightwing is supposed to be equal to Batman.

  • @MasalaMan
    @MasalaMan Год назад +611

    Nightwing is literally the only Robin afaik who grew up properly thanks to Batman. He's supposed to be just as good, not a punching bag, plot device or joke. I was re-watching someone play Arkham Knight and he gets kidnapped ...BY THE PENGUIN!....HOW!!??

    • @WesSideLive
      @WesSideLive  Год назад +173

      the penguin?????

    • @-RoacH-
      @-RoacH- Год назад +63

      @@WesSideLivethe penguin bro

    • @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225
      @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 Год назад +15

      I wouldn't say witnessing tons of murders, including his own parents murder, being tortured by a deranged Two Face as a child and running into all types of weird stuff in Gotham growing up is exactly what I would consider to be growing up properly. Nightwing and pretty much all the Robins have a wilder childhood than even Batman.

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Год назад +10

      Nightwing being kidnapped by Penguin is kinda believable. I'm thinking they had Nightwing outgunned so he "fake surrendered" until Batman got there

    • @okay8458
      @okay8458 Год назад +3

      I wouldn't say so bc nightwing grew better than batman he escaped batman bc he was toxic af
      Which is why we see batman say dick is a better man than him
      And I'm pretty sure one of the reasons why in the comics he left was bc of batman sleeping with Barbara

  • @galenpemberton4382
    @galenpemberton4382 Год назад +303

    How Knightwing survived this long not being able to dodge sticks thrown at 10 mph is a mystery to everyone.

    • @DarkHeartTheEmo
      @DarkHeartTheEmo Год назад +9

      He can dodge, this isn't he frist time that Damian throw something at him, all the times that Damian did this Nightwing either dodge or catch it, but here he didn't, probably because they busy figthing the inmates.

    • @camerynthomas6541
      @camerynthomas6541 Год назад +12

      ​@@DarkHeartTheEmosomeone who fights guys with guns and with super powers all the time but can't multi task fights should've been dead sorry bro they just hoed him

    • @DarkHeartTheEmo
      @DarkHeartTheEmo Год назад +2

      @@camerynthomas6541 Not everytime, if they were training he would have dodge, he is was more distratic with the inmate that Damian, he was catch of guard and like Batman, he is just human.

    • @bubblegumwarrior6731
      @bubblegumwarrior6731 Год назад

      @@DarkHeartTheEmoYes and no, while I do agree that this video has only showed the absolute worse for dick Grayson. You can’t deny that a lot of these especially the injustice bit was just doing dick Grayson dirty, however, I won’t push it to the point of saying DC hates Nightwing as we’ve recently gotten The Vampire King Grayson in comics and it’s pretty good and shows some of the best feats of Grayson. Still doesn’t change the fact that for the past ten or so years Dick has been constantly underutilized and straight up bullied by writers.

  • @DeMxmoria
    @DeMxmoria Год назад +283

    So Marvel hates Spider-Man, and DC hates Nightwing. The writers have to be jealous of their rizz skills to make them suffer this bad.

    • @lord_of_lords10
      @lord_of_lords10 Год назад +12

      Marvel hate spiderman??

    • @neapolitanmint755
      @neapolitanmint755 Год назад +44

      @@lord_of_lords10 hmmmm yeah, the writers for the comic.

    • @9751matt
      @9751matt Год назад +33

      @@lord_of_lords10 Spider-man in the main comics constantly get 2 or 3 beyond horrible things happen to him every part of a comic run, and Peter Parkers across the multiverse constantly have apocalyptic fates for like 100 Peter Parkers in the multiverse then end with him dying the most gruesome death possible, tortured endlessly or going completely insane if he's lucky.
      When a multiverse or darkhold or what if comic comes out, the Spider man writers laugh with glee as they fill the Spider-man pages with the most gruesome fates possible for dozens of versions of Peter Spider-man, while the current writer for the main Spider-man is a NTR nut who makes him suffer needlessly on a constant basis.

    • @Roddy425
      @Roddy425 Год назад +25

      @@lord_of_lords10yup, especially his current comic run, Bro got locked in titanium hand cuffs (which he should be able to break out of), got beaten to a bloody pulp by TOMBSTONE of all villains and begged him to stop🤦🏽‍♂️ And I forgot to mention that Mary Jane cheated on him too with some random ass dude named Paul and had kids (fortunately Paul got f’d in the end after his kids faded away from existence), plus he’s not even able to beat villains he’s used to without the help of a suit that Norman Osborn gave him, his previous comic run before this was actually good but then the current writer Zeb Wells just ruined it all

    • @lord_of_lords10
      @lord_of_lords10 Год назад +2

      Damn!!! Had no idea this is what was going on in the comics

  • @dominiqueodom3099
    @dominiqueodom3099 Год назад +139

    Its pretty apparent that DC doesnt want anyone to overshadow Batman/Joker/Harley Quinn.
    DC hates the Entire Second Generation of Heroes THEY CREATED THEMSELVES with the Teen Titans going from being the 4th most Iconic Superhero Team of All Time behind
    1.Justice League
    2.The Avengers
    3.Xmen and being the most Widely known Teen Superhero Team in All of American Comics with Dick Grayson being the Poster Child for the Leader of this Team for Decades.
    Young Justice Was the Best Animated Series to tackle the younger Generation of DC Heroes that are littered everywhere and Widely Popular compared to the Lackluster Marvel Comparisons.

    • @Willow-cw9te
      @Willow-cw9te Год назад +1

      Um sick Grayson never led the X-men and X-men is marvel while Dick is DC. He led Teen Titans.

    • @henrygambles3652
      @henrygambles3652 Год назад +1

      @@Willow-cw9te He did lead the League when Bruce Wayne was assumed dead though!

    • @asdadd6304
      @asdadd6304 Год назад +1

      Young Justice is probably the only show where Nightwing is competent.

    • @noctisluciscaelum211
      @noctisluciscaelum211 Год назад

      @@asdadd6304 Pretty much. Young Justice got the character to shine. As for the Titans show it was hit and miss but at least Nightwing got his happy ending with Starfire.

  • @JDWalker495
    @JDWalker495 Год назад +16

    They hate Nightwing like Marvel hates Spiderman.
    No mercy for these poor guys

    • @marjeryferreira2822
      @marjeryferreira2822 Год назад

      Lol nightwing gets treated like a king compared to Spider-Man

  • @hirvale
    @hirvale Год назад +163

    Young Justice is the one show that did this man JUSTICE

    • @gbuckss
      @gbuckss Год назад +24

      The best Dick Grayson iteration we’ve gotten so far

    • @francorodriguez-vr8ri
      @francorodriguez-vr8ri Год назад +25

      True, but he was still berated by many members of the Team for keeping secrets and acting like Batman, even though he previously stated that he didn’t want to be Batman, leaves the Team and gives the leadership role back to Kaldur, even though Kaldur said that Duck was born to lead the Team, and shafted his built up relationship with Zatanna for Barbara.

    • @bryanlabady9825
      @bryanlabady9825 Год назад +10

      @@francorodriguez-vr8riyeah and I feel like he’s barely in the show compared to other characters 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @onepresence9460
      @onepresence9460 Год назад +1

      That show is the goat. I really hope Season 5 happens.

    • @tototats16
      @tototats16 Год назад +2

      @@onepresence9460 If it does happen, then I hope they hire better writers. S3 and S4 were incredibly messy and overstuffed with too many characters.

  • @ronitanis4353
    @ronitanis4353 Год назад +42

    At least he’s loved by everyone in the superhero community

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 Год назад +64

    Yeah DC really hates Nightwing.

  • @spinjitzumasterfalcon
    @spinjitzumasterfalcon Год назад +38

    I think the Harley Quinn show is probably the most disrespectful treatment Nightwing’s ever gotten recently. Well and the comics. But, man, put some respect on my boy’s name!

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 Год назад +6

      Everyone says that the show is great, but I never got the appeal. The Nightwing slander doesn't help either.

    • @spinjitzumasterfalcon
      @spinjitzumasterfalcon Год назад +2

      @@hope-cat4894 I mean, I like seeing Harley and Ivy together as a cute couple, but that’s all I can really say.

    • @tototats16
      @tototats16 Год назад

      @@spinjitzumasterfalconI didn’t like how she dumped Kiteman on their wedding day and ran off with Harley

    • @koalafromtomorrow5656
      @koalafromtomorrow5656 24 дня назад

      But at least that is a comedy like a lot of characters are treated improperly in that One

  • @fuzzynuttz5092
    @fuzzynuttz5092 Год назад +526

    Those DC writers who write night wing must be the same writers that write current Spider-Man comics

    • @editornoob4606
      @editornoob4606 Год назад +25

      That's just all writers in general

    • @anthonysalinas-candelero9978
      @anthonysalinas-candelero9978 Год назад +17

      ​@@editornoob4606they don't write other characters to get the Spider-Man treatment like Knightwing

    • @editornoob4606
      @editornoob4606 Год назад +5

      @@anthonysalinas-candelero9978 what about invincible?

    • @SA1NT53
      @SA1NT53 Год назад +8

      Ngl, there aren’t any good comics out there anymore

    • @SippingVino
      @SippingVino Год назад +21

      @@editornoob4606invincible had bad things happen to him that molded his character and created the deposition of a King, these guys just get disrespected at every opportunity

  • @namecomingsoon9517
    @namecomingsoon9517 Год назад +68

    Nightwing being like the dc spiderman

  • @yoder6162
    @yoder6162 Год назад +14

    Short answer: Dan Didio. The guy hates legacy characters and has screwed over some of them, but he LOVES all the edgier characters, there's even record that his favorite Robins were Jason Todd and Damien Wayne. This is the same guy who said "Heroes shouldn't be happy". You think Dick Grayson has been done dirty, wait until you see how they have been hoeing both *Wally* *West* (Kid Flash in Young Justice and The Flash in Justice League/Unlimited) and *Static* *Shock* 🤦

  • @davidmoh175
    @davidmoh175 Год назад +114

    They've done Dick Grayson as bad as bad as Spiderman 💀💀

  • @RogueFox2185
    @RogueFox2185 Год назад +74

    Every time Dick Greyson becomes Nightwing life starts to have it out for him, he basically gets the Invincible-Lite treatment.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Год назад +242

    “You can’t kill Batman off. He’s too popular. What do you think he is, Nightwing?”
    -GodzillaMendoza, 2021

  • @alan7723
    @alan7723 Год назад +65

    This is the greatest surprise video I could get from you. I absolutely agree, I’ve always had Dick Grayson in my top 3 favorite DC characters area ever since I was introduced to him in Teen Titans, and it hurts to see everything he’s featured in from then on just shit on him and make a joke out of him. Just give him one W! One big W, please DC!

  • @marcusrimson6330
    @marcusrimson6330 Год назад +24

    Nightwing is so mistreated I swear, dude is literally the king of rizz, and a skilled martial artist, yet he gets screwed constantly

  • @cooleopard50
    @cooleopard50 Год назад +16

    Outside of the comics, Nightwing is treated as a punching bag. He does shit like Beat Batman, fight Etrigan level demons, and so much more

  • @ThexAngryxPharoah
    @ThexAngryxPharoah Год назад +7

    So it's public knowledge that the previous editor in chief Dan Didio HATED Dick Grayson and was behind every effort to change or kill him.
    After his exit, the ladt crisis happened in which Dick finally got his flowers.

  • @danielsanchez5224
    @danielsanchez5224 Год назад +632

    You wanna know why DC never lets Nightwing live up to his potential? He’s not allowed to be better than Batman.

    • @WesSideLive
      @WesSideLive  Год назад +291

      tbh no one is allowed to be better than batman. he's my fav in Dc, but that's one of the most annoying things about his character.

    • @Christopher-qq4dl
      @Christopher-qq4dl Год назад +10

    • @stickthelanding4785
      @stickthelanding4785 Год назад +30

      @@WesSideLiveI honestly don’t really like Batman due to his ideology and how he is constantly hyped.

    • @Heavenly_Senshi
      @Heavenly_Senshi Год назад +13

      Yet Damien is getting milked

    • @jojomojofofo
      @jojomojofofo Год назад +31

      Ain't that whole point of Batman raising these kids in the first place?

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 Год назад +110

    Both Nightwing and Spider-Man did something to piss their writers off to get done dirty constantly

    • @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
      @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 Год назад +1

      Don’t worry Harley Quinn Deadpool punisher 50 Cent Eminem she hulk jojo Characters would just put an end to those writers.

  • @feebz0378
    @feebz0378 Год назад +38

    Hey Wes, I know it's not my place to say it but man congratulations on your weight loss. I've been watching your videos for like a year and your transformation has been crazy, your face alone looks waay slimmer. Keep going my guy with your journey and your content, I'm loving both.

  • @thehighground7926
    @thehighground7926 Год назад +188

    What’s worse is that typically, Dick Grayson is listed as a top 10 martial artist across the DC universe. So to see them to all that stuff to him is humiliating

    • @adreanna62796
      @adreanna62796 Год назад +1

      Ain’t no way he even top 50!how ass he gets treated he seems like a F tier hero

    • @thehighground7926
      @thehighground7926 Год назад

      @@adreanna62796 go do some research on Nightwing and read his good comic runs and you’ll find out that he’s not ass. DC’s current writers and show runners just do care about him

    • @Temp-nj8rm
      @Temp-nj8rm Год назад

      ​@@adreanna62796he getting that spiderman treatment

    • @ryanbenedict2754
      @ryanbenedict2754 Год назад +34

      @@adreanna62796 Fr he is easily top 10 in the comics, he even beat a serious non holding back Batman, they cant keep disrespecting my boi like this 😭😭

    • @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225
      @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 Год назад +29

      ​@@adreanna62796he beat Batman with straight fists while Batman wasn't holding back. If he F tier then Batman must not know how to fight at all

  • @averynunez6569
    @averynunez6569 Год назад +6

    honestly many of the Legacy Characters started getting disrespected and replaced once Damian, Jon and Yara Flor showed up, and now they're replacing Yara. Tim Drake and his generation get hit with the disrespect stick the hardest.
    DC just hates the rest of the family, they want the roster that The Animated Series had, Batman and Robin with Batgirl and a little Nightwing, but they also don't want him because he's too popular and might overshadowed Robin and Batgirl.

  • @ashthonduncan1461
    @ashthonduncan1461 Год назад +2

    don’t forget buddy always gets his arm hurt, broken or dislocated

  • @demod2080
    @demod2080 Год назад +5

    I sorely can't wait for the Bob Kane version of Batman to go Public Domain. This means Robin from that Universe is free game and can finally get the respect he deserves.

  • @N_DAnimationEnthusiast
    @N_DAnimationEnthusiast Год назад +10

    That was raw when they first revealed Damian killed Dick Grayson. Then, the Comics and movie ruined it when they revealed the way he died. It could’ve been any other way. Then again, Titans did him even dirtier by turning around against a crazy red hood fan with a gun and getting shot in the throat.
    Edit: 5:08 Huh. I never knew. Also, the time with catwoman was probably revenge for Bruce and Barbara being a thing.

  • @hetwitblad6544
    @hetwitblad6544 Год назад +54

    At first, I got the feeling Bruce Timm disliked Dick Grayson. I can only think of two reasons why:
    1) In the original episodes of BTAS he used him sparingly and only when he was needed, and it was well written, but in the final season Robin had to be included in every episode, so he started breaking his arm or whatever other damsel in distress thing to get him out of the story,
    2) as good as he is for the batverse he ships batman and batgirl kind of obsessively (I was really grossed out by the batwoman phone call), despite there being really good chemistry between Robin and Batgirl in her first appearance. Dick couldn't be with or even kiss Barbara, notice how twice (Old wounds, subzero) thier kiss was interrupted.
    In TNBA they again used him more sparingly which did give us better stories, though his relationship with batman was all over the place.
    However it seems Bruce timm likes the damsel in distress role for Dick Grayson as in a lot of his movies, he is again kind of sidelined by unfortunate injuries or stupidity (I understand he loses against batman, although perhaps it should be a tougher fight, but so many other times it is just disrespectful)
    It's even worse now that I realise that it just happens everywhere, please find someone to write a truly great story about him

  • @elijahdubois7902
    @elijahdubois7902 Год назад +6

    I feel bad for Dick Grayson bro. They did him DIRTY in Injustice.

  • @rodneybrown2059
    @rodneybrown2059 Год назад +2

    Teen Titans Go was just a complete mockery to the origin. Nightwing smashing Harley was crazy, like I was shocked when I first watched the movie. And the way they did him so dirty in the Harley Quinn tv show pissed me off, like they really did him like that after his death, like that's just crazy.

  • @onepresence9460
    @onepresence9460 Год назад +8

    It’s so baffling to see amazing characters like Nightwing, Wally West and Spider-Man getting hated by the writers. It’s one of those moments that i prefer read fan fiction about these characters because i know they will be treated better.
    Justice for Nightwing, Wally West and Spider-Man ✊

  • @amekgomo5250
    @amekgomo5250 Год назад +2

    Reading nightwings death in injustice comic pissed me off, pissed everyone off to the point they had to bring him back lmfao

  • @harryblocks
    @harryblocks Год назад +15

    Surprised Plastic man never got a spot light in a fighting game.

    • @daveTHEdirty
      @daveTHEdirty Год назад +2

      Plastic Man is such an underrated character redeemed criminal with a great sense of humor and he's actually insanely powerful.

    • @harryblocks
      @harryblocks Год назад +1

      @@daveTHEdirty Exactly why can't he have a more important role?
      Didn't Batman personally defended O'Brian's case?

    • @HELLO_KORO
      @HELLO_KORO Год назад

      ​@@harryblocks DC lacks faith in characters that aren't Batman and Superman related due to many adaptations of it's wider universe bombing or going under the radar like Stargirl, Swamp Thing, The spirit and even Green Lantern

    • @harryblocks
      @harryblocks Год назад

      @@HELLO_KORO wow that is incredibly depressing and dumb of them

  • @SippingVino
    @SippingVino Год назад +39

    I had a Robin shirt as a lil kid, Teen Titans show blew my mind and finding out he became Nightwing and got away from Batman’s shadow made me pleased, he’s 1/3 of the OG Batman crew (bats and joker) and gets portrayed as less badass than Alfred….

  • @blueizumi
    @blueizumi Год назад +111

    In the comics for no reason the writers have Nightwing get raped twice and the first time he gets victim-blamed by multiple characters including Starfire who was his lover at the time, and the second time by some a new superhero which never gets brought up again.

    • @MiyakoPisces4.0
      @MiyakoPisces4.0 Год назад +25

      What the hell.......?. 😧😨😰.

    • @Vergil14
      @Vergil14 Год назад +14

      Oh yeah. I remember hearing about those. Sad part is the art imitates life and shows how many people don’t care. That many men and women point it out as readers shows how messed up things still are.

    • @malayshamorgan3918
      @malayshamorgan3918 Год назад +26

      ...So DC and marvel just be letting anyone write their heroes being treated like crap huh?

    • @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
      @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 Год назад +2

      It’s not just in Marvel and DC anime too when you flip a coin do you will get some good Content or you will have some controversial bad and kickstarting the school shooting world War three type situation.

    • @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225
      @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 Год назад +15

      The wildest part is the writer didn't consider it assault because it was a woman who did it or something

  • @ricardomilos3872
    @ricardomilos3872 Год назад +23

    At least he became a pillar character and the leader of the DC superheroes in the comics , they even gave him his own 5th dimensional imp called Dxyl
    The biggest w he got is the fact that he got to marry a beautiful redhead unlike some marvel superheroes

    • @marjeryferreira2822
      @marjeryferreira2822 Год назад

      Spider-Man did before she cheat on him🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @ricardomilos3872
      @ricardomilos3872 Год назад

      @@marjeryferreira2822 dude she didn't just cheat on him , the bitch completely dumped him and made children with a dude she met like a week ago, her children look like they're 4yo which means she didn't even wait a year before giving up , meanwhile Barbara stayed on Richard side and supported him from the day they met , even when she was heartbroken after seeing him with Kori , even when she got crippled ( matter of fact, she immediately fucked Dick the moment he visited her cuz she was too excited to see him after years ) , even when Dick almost died and completely lost his memory and became a taxi driver, she kept visiting him trying to make him remember who he was , like they've been through a lot and yet they kept looking for the eachother during hard times cuz unlike MJ , Babs does understand Richard as a superhero and as a partner , her relationship with him doesn't feel forced or unnatural which is why they're relationship is one of the best superhero relationships in comics

  • @Chamber37
    @Chamber37 Год назад +6

    Anyone remember that 'Ric' arc a few years back? Got too annoyed to ever read past one or two issues

    • @dzk004223
      @dzk004223 Год назад +2

      That was something that I wish I forgotten. And I was one of the clowns that kept up with it hoping it would get better. Spoiler: it only got worse

  • @aleksanderzaremba9695
    @aleksanderzaremba9695 Год назад +6

    This is hilarious when you recall in Arkham Asylum Harley lost to batman in one hit.

  • @lamarledennis3220
    @lamarledennis3220 Год назад +2

    Animated version made sense a hit to the temple could kill someone. With the comics slips trips and falls are quite common in the workplace and lack of bad house keeping i.e loose rubble on the floor.

  • @kidnarl
    @kidnarl Год назад +32

    I find it funny how DC considers Dick Grayson to be the greatest of humanity and manages to still shaft him in some fucked up way

  • @drjones1020
    @drjones1020 Год назад +40

    Nightwing definitely doesn't always get the best treatment, but they do do him right sometimes. Like I believe their is one comic where he actually beats batman in a fight, and even batman and alfred consider Dick to be like the true successor where Batman believe's he can be better them him as a hero and person, while Alfred believed in him so much that he left the Pennsworth fortune to Dick after he died (which I believe made Dick richer than Batman) because Alfred believed he could do so much good with it, and one of the first things he did with that fortune was feed the homeless and stuff.

    • @b.a.m.4135
      @b.a.m.4135 Год назад +2

      I don't know if Court of Owls/ War of Robins is even still cannon, but there was a part in that story where Drake and Todd are dick measuring and when one of them gets upstaged he blast back with "You know Dick could have done it in less time"
      Bro's not even in the story. He was working for the government at point.

  • @toniosoflyy
    @toniosoflyy Год назад +4

    They low key disrespect his journey as Robin/Nightwing. Yet WB gives D’Vorah: a character everybody hates some shine and kills off many beloved characters like Mileena and Scorpion.

  • @justanaveragesloth4141
    @justanaveragesloth4141 Год назад +1

    Still not as dumb as when Spider-Man losing to a fucking old man in a bird suit and CALLS HIS ARCH NEMESIS FOR HELP

  • @AdeptKing
    @AdeptKing Год назад +2

    Careful, Marvel already took Spider-Man’s rizz ability. Don’t dare DC to take that away from Grayson.

  • @kjdee140
    @kjdee140 Год назад +2

    DC hates Nightwing as much as comic writers hate Peter Parker.

  • @daith_izumi
    @daith_izumi Год назад +3

    If you think this is bad, wait till you see Spider-Man. The comic writers don’t want him to have a happy life. Dude just goes from struggle after struggle…AFTER STRUGGLE

  • @CrazyWeridoRH
    @CrazyWeridoRH Год назад +2

    Damian breaks his neck, Starfire breaks his pelvis

  • @SippingVino
    @SippingVino Год назад +39

    You see, the Teen Titans were DC’s highest selling comic at one time, rivaling the peak of the X-Men and in large part due to characterizing Dick Grayson, someone who comic readers never thought before could stand alone from Batman. Not adapting arguably the second greatest character (yes over Joker, he’s a great villain but Robins depth and potential is insane) in the Batman universe is criminal and DC shouldn’t have control over its characters

  • @nodriptom
    @nodriptom Год назад +2

    They did his ass dirty in arkham knight too, mf got kidnaped by the penguin, and got his ass beat by harley again! 🤣😥

  • @bruv.2214
    @bruv.2214 Год назад +1

    “Hey uhhh maybe don’t beat that guy up.”
    “FUCK YOU” *Throws baton with lethal force*

  • @kingcyclops4079
    @kingcyclops4079 Год назад +3

    2:23 lowkey how older brothers be fighting 😂

  • @Dsmooth753youtube
    @Dsmooth753youtube Год назад +12

    The problem with nightwing is that he's powers and popularity rival batmans, and dc can't let anyone be better than batman. So they have to keep jobbing him.

  • @MLGHazrad
    @MLGHazrad Год назад +12

    Wes, Injustice was brutal as fuck. Superman *COMMISSIONED* Victor Szazz, a serial killer who scars himself for each of his victims, to kill Alfred Pennyworth to keep Damien Wayne in his side and bait Batman into killing somebody.

  • @badassproductions4734
    @badassproductions4734 Год назад +145

    The worse is that he's supposed to be stronger than batman in the comics 😰

    • @ryanbenedict2754
      @ryanbenedict2754 Год назад +23

      Exactly mate 😭😭

    • @bigred212
      @bigred212 Год назад +21

      Nah fr if that's the case why he be gettin his ahh beat by literally everyone wtf 💀

    • @brockjr8040
      @brockjr8040 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@bigred212
      Only in movies and shows, he kicks serious ass in comics.

  • @smartmonke1604
    @smartmonke1604 Год назад +4

    In the comic (or somewhere else I can't quite pin it lol, long time) his death is similar but is done far better, it's established Damian throws a baton at Dick when he's annoyed or frustrated with him when they're training but he does so knowing Dick will always catch it. In this instance however Dick wasn't fully alert because of the chaos and was basically caught lacking, the baton connected and Dick breaks his neck in the fall on a sharp rock. Damian was distraught as he didn't intend for that of course and expected Dick to catch it as usual, Batman didn't know about that detail or care and that's why Damian doubles down and says screw him basically and joins up with Clark. Rare Batman L.

  • @anakinchromosomewalker7031
    @anakinchromosomewalker7031 Год назад +3

    Spider-man fans: "first time?"

  • @OneOfTheBoys23
    @OneOfTheBoys23 Год назад +1

    They’re’s a series of nightwing fan films that was created by a RUclipsr called ISMAHAWK. It gives a better version of Nightwing who is an cinematic badass on screen.

  • @ShadowTheBloodedge1415
    @ShadowTheBloodedge1415 Год назад +2

    Well.......
    At least he's not suffering like Spidey

    • @Wolfspane
      @Wolfspane Год назад

      Actually, Starfire kept cheating on him while they were dating because her culture doesn’t see sex with people other than their partner as taboo. That and her libido was put into overdrive during one story to the point that she had to be isolated bc she was nearly raping anything male in her vicinity. They broke up bc of these factors.

    • @Toxic-cd4yh
      @Toxic-cd4yh Год назад

      Idk man, this seems like a pretty close second smh

  • @anthonysalinas-candelero9978
    @anthonysalinas-candelero9978 Год назад +3

    Wow...just wow I didn't even know he died by falling on a rock that snaped his neck in the Injustice comics...like bruhhh wtf...and even if his death in the Animated movie made a little more sense, just him getting fked over and over again by DC in general really is sad lowkey..they wanna give him the Spider-Man treatment where he can't win apparently

  • @fettel1988
    @fettel1988 Год назад +2

    Nightwing is definitely DC's Spiderman in terms of grief-porn.

  • @polartang250
    @polartang250 Год назад +10

    DC really hates Nightwing, Wally, Tim Drake but loves to shove Batman, Joker, Harley, Damian and Jason in our throats

    • @averynunez6569
      @averynunez6569 Год назад +5

      Jason? Jason only has three animated appearances, those being The Under the Red Hood movie, that one LEGO movie and he was teased in Young Justice.
      He also only shows up in two games Arkham Knight and Gotham Knights and one made him all whiny and the other had him looking like Jason Voorhees.

    • @polartang250
      @polartang250 Год назад

      @@averynunez6569 He was in way more of those things you just named. He was in the death of the family movie where he was the main character. The Titans TV show, Injustice 2, that Batman Ninja movie etc

    • @fm_0523
      @fm_0523 Год назад +4

      Jason is just as mistreated as all the other characters DC hates.
      His character development has been running in circles for years: he constantly goes back and forth between killing and not killing, fighting against Batman and fighting with him.
      Most of his media appearances get him wrong. In Titans and that Lego movie he's a whiny baby, in Batman ninja he's an edgelord, in Young Justice he doesn't even speak...the only movie that truly got him right is Under the Red Hood.

  • @sethgaston8347
    @sethgaston8347 Год назад +1

    Her giving him the Mark treatment is crazy! There ain’t no therapy for that my boy, that’s only for when a man’s the aggressor 🤣

  • @lamsaidthetrue2238
    @lamsaidthetrue2238 Год назад +1

    This hit defferent after watching harley queen show....

  • @cosmickeyboard9811
    @cosmickeyboard9811 Год назад +1

    Comics Spiderman: FINALLY, A WORTHY OPPONENT

  • @JinxTheLooneyToon915
    @JinxTheLooneyToon915 Год назад +1

    0:07 | Kevin "The Mad Lad" Conroy🫡🫡

  • @HaBeFaStro
    @HaBeFaStro Год назад +1

    As usual WesSideLive is on point… in the topic at hand AND IN HIS HAIR

  • @Damian_Howl
    @Damian_Howl Год назад

    2:27 to be fair , batman got pieced up by damian in the reacent comics 😂 as well .

  • @caedrewan
    @caedrewan Год назад

    Glad you're calling this out

  • @bidsteak9696
    @bidsteak9696 Год назад +1

    It all started when the new 52 came out, it's all been downhill for my boy Grayson

  • @myxboxname8767
    @myxboxname8767 Год назад +3

    I always thought Nightwing was as strong as Batman why is he a jobber, bro😭

  • @TheHaloAdventureShow
    @TheHaloAdventureShow Год назад +13

    And it's crazy because Nightwing is super cool and popular, Dick Grayson has so much love by everyone...everyone...but DC itself

  • @SaanWukong
    @SaanWukong Год назад +4

    Its crazy how in both comics and just in pure lore, NIGHTWING IS SUPPOSE TO BE BATMANS GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT!!!
    He was (suppose to) better than Batman in almost ever way (Except Detective work, that was Tim Drake) and at WORSE, his equal.
    He was stronger, younger, and better yet, didnt have the Pain, Loneliness and Resentment Batman bears from Trauma. He shows how its possible to be Batman without the suffering it comes with it and he was the role model EVERYONE looked up to.
    It truly sucks being a Nightwing and Flash fan nowadays man

  • @omegaXjammur
    @omegaXjammur Год назад +1

    You know the hate is real when they killed him off in the Harley Quinn show

  • @nastynam7630
    @nastynam7630 Год назад +6

    I want more Red Hood

  • @manwithamask3967
    @manwithamask3967 Год назад +1

    I'm convinced that the Harley Quinn show hates the bat family

  • @TensaZangetsu97
    @TensaZangetsu97 Год назад +1

    Teen titans (Cartoon Network) dick grayson was an absolute beast and was so awesome to watch fight. God please bring that show back 😭

  • @Cndr86
    @Cndr86 Год назад +1

    Even Nightwing gets his ass beat by Harley in Arkham Knight in her story pack.

  • @gra9
    @gra9 Год назад +14

    Blame Dan Didido for this the ex cheif editoral the guy hated the sidekicks

  • @sonicstarfighter
    @sonicstarfighter Год назад +1

    To be fair, Harley has been trained by the Amazonians

  • @BleedingFazos
    @BleedingFazos Год назад

    Comic Nightwing had some moments recently but I ain’t know about that tarantula thing…jinkies

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme Год назад

    To be fair that comic was like in what the early 2000s, I believe he's doing aight in the new ones, at least it's better than Spider-Man

  • @silver_fang5552
    @silver_fang5552 Год назад +4

    So Nightwing getting sliced up and two-pieced by Damian happened in the same movie but i agree with the sentiment that those runs of movies really did nerf the piss out of Dick (and this is coming from someone who likes all the Robins; Damian included)
    Apparently in the new comic run Dick has been doing pretty well so I'm content but if you wanted quality Dick Grayson content that was animated you mainly should watch Young Justice because they give Dick his just due

  • @cartoonponyta
    @cartoonponyta Год назад +68

    I’ve always noticed in the animated movies that Nightwing was always getting injured, and I was like, “can they stop doing that it’s getting annoying.” DC really does seem like they hate him. Like, why do you hate him that much? What did he do to you?!

    • @mysteryace2129
      @mysteryace2129 Год назад +8

      It's how Dragon Ball treats Gohan aka HIMhan

    • @kabukiuchiha6020
      @kabukiuchiha6020 Год назад +4

      Notice how it's always sorta his arm too, man's got that Vegeta treatment

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Год назад +5

      Bro was even dead in the Snyderverse - can’t catch a break

  • @Gin0neE
    @Gin0neE Год назад

    5:31 oh yeah btw that girl that did.....that to Nightwing was the Author's Self Insert

  • @VinceTheCreatorr
    @VinceTheCreatorr Год назад

    Batman and his sons bodies are literally trained to take beatings even from superpower and mutant folk. So a filmsy baton killing is beyond unbelievable

  • @AlmightyBshine
    @AlmightyBshine Год назад

    3:00 to be fair her bag had bricks in it. Harleys strength comes from her unpredictability

  • @daveTHEdirty
    @daveTHEdirty Год назад +2

    They never did know what to do with Nightwing and red hood. Nightwing's adventures in bludhaven were cool but after that he just kept getting hoed. And after red hoods Redemption they just kept looping him back to the Joker. The last time I checked he's a zombie or something

  • @DescryMirare
    @DescryMirare Год назад +1

    I felt the same way every amc show thats not the walking dead

  • @kchikwete
    @kchikwete Год назад

    Dont forget in that Injustice movie The Flash dies offscreen like a b...

  • @isaiahlong8786
    @isaiahlong8786 Год назад +1

    Same way marvel hates Spider man. Nightwing is the only character other than Terry McGinnis that deserves to wear the cowl

  • @parkerbair7965
    @parkerbair7965 Год назад +4

    In the comic he died because he snapped his neck on a rock. It was actually a really sad moment because Damien didn't want to kill him and thought he would just dodge it, then he didn't and batman abandoned him

  • @KingMarkus222
    @KingMarkus222 Год назад +1

    They really do be shittin on Greyson A.K.A “THE GREAT SON” yea that’s a shot at Damian

  • @stickyytofu
    @stickyytofu Год назад +1

    Nightwing's just DC's spider-man at this point

  • @Goldhawk7
    @Goldhawk7 Год назад +3

    Dick Grayson is starting to become the Spiderman of the DC universe.

  • @autumnwinter346
    @autumnwinter346 Год назад +2

    Damien is a spoiled brat and nightwing was so cool but now I want to punch my tv every time they disrespect my boy Grayson