Which "Red" Threadlocker is Best? Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2018
- Which "RED" high strength Threadlocker is Best? Let's find out!
Products tested: Loctite 271, Permatex 271000, JB Weld 27106, Pro Seal 27106, Vibra Tite Red
Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
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Everyone knows the best thread locker is RUST! 😂
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Yeah I often use rush for all my cylinder head bolts
Awesome upgrade so far
I find that accidentally munging the threads works almost as well, and you don't have to wait for it!
@@hardlyb rub it in salt water, it'll be ruatalicious in a day.
you mean cross threaded right?
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When using the oven for testing the first thing you wanna do is make sure your wife isn't home.
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That was my first thought, too.
You are on a slippery slope with the oven… if she catches you testing anything with the washer or dryer as well, you will be spending more time in the kitchen than the workshop!
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Do a test on different types of gasket maker RTV! Heat and pressure test maybe?
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This would be an awesome test, but it seems like it would be difficult to replicate
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You can make exhaust and other purpose built heatshields by using some fiberglass cloth and taking some red or copper rtv and applying it to the cloth with a putty knife.
You can even just leave it glued to a piece of tin for some great homemade heatshields, that’s what I usually do.
I'd be curious to see it. Had some trouble with Permatex in our shop and switched to Valco Cincinnati which seems far superior. Seems to set and grip better.
Scott Craig I've always used the red high temp permatex rtv and it hasn't failed me yet, I've never used any other brands so I'd be curious to see how other brands compare👍
If you don't already, you should have a website somewhere so you can post all of the data. It would be interesting to take a look at it.
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OMG. I was looking into adding threadlocker on my wheel adapter. Thanks for making videos like this!!! Deeply, deeply appreciate this!!! So glad I am already a patreon for your channel!
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Wow, first time someone listened to a comment I made. In your blue thread locker video I suggested you measure each dose because I saw more product applied to one bolt from another. It's a bit hard to measure such a small amount of product so the one drop per bolt was good enough for me! Great video!
This was a terrific suggestion you provided and I tried my best to apply an equal amount. Thanks for this advice!
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hello Project Farm...today i did something awesome...i poured gunpowder in a carb of a weedwhacker engine and it went off...after dissasembly i saw that connceting rod ends were kissing and crank case was fracture....id like to see what would it do on ayour engines :D its a very good video idea
Have you tried 5 second super glue as a thread lock before???
@Dustin McDonald
Super glue doesn't respond well to heat, so it have to be in a non-heated environment - aka not an engine or something similar.
J Rand worth a try just to muck around though
MAN your videos are great don't worry about it so much
Great work, as always! Your attention to detail and humble approach are rare and refreshing. Thanks, and keep it up!
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I always enjoy seeing the improvements to your testing methods. Seems like a very reliable and thorough test.
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Not sure if you’ve done this yet, but it would be cool to see the difference between blue vs red thread lockers! Great video by the way!
Loctite red and blue is of no use on a fastener not tightened because it relies on pressure as the fastener is tightened to "activate" it.
If you don't tension the fastener it wont activate the loctite and will only rely on it solidifying which isnt the way it works.
If you want to use Loctite for non tension fastening you need green "shaft lock" Loctite.
Thanks for commenting on this.
Everything you say sounds plasuable, but why didn't the load strength change significantly then?
It was weird to me that he was able to remove red thread locker at all, let alone so easily.
Learnt this the hard way at work
There may be threadlockers like this, but off the shelf stuff is just an anaerobic adhesive. Loctite talks about it in this link, Q14:
www.loctite.com.au/3286_AUS_HTML.htm#item7528
AuMechanic thank you
Thanks for the continued effort to provide clean, non biased tests. You & AvE are the only people who haven’t turned Into sell outs. The only difference between you too is I can watch your videos with my toddler in the truck.
Glad to help! Thank you!
This is exactly what I was looking for! I literally had to go to the store at some point in the future to get thread locker for a bolt to fix the power assist on my push mower. This totally helped me to choose the right thread locker for my application. Thank you!
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Permatex and JB weld seem to be the most consistent performers and easier to find at part stores.
Thank you for commenting!
Unsurprisingly, red Loctite came in first in the "normal" application of a tightened bolt/nut, so I'll continue to use this brand for that, but interestingly it's the weakest on untightened applications, while the largely similar (in chemical composition) JB Weld brand was the strongest. For once, I actually have a project that involves threadlocking an *untightened* bolt, and had no idea whether any of these products would work well enough, because I don't think this is how they're supposed to be used (as without tightening, their curing process might not be sufficiently anaerobic). But JB Weld worked pretty darn well, so for this project, at least, I'll be using the red JB Weld threadlocker instead of the usual Loctite. Thanks for this most useful info! 👍
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I’m addicted to your videos, even the ones that don't really concern me. I feel like I can always make an informed decision from your tests because you are so trustworthy. Keep up the fantastic work.
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Thanks for another great vid. Have a 30 year old bottle of red loctite in my garage. The door my grandkids go in & out of what seems like 50 times a day doorknob kept coming loose so I applied the old loctite it's on it about 2 years ago. Never came loose after that.
I'd be interested in seeing tests about how well the threadlockers resist vibration, but maybe that's too hard. Great video.
Great suggestion! Thank you
@@ProjectFarm Vibration (and vibration plus heat) is the only thing you should be testing. We don't use thread locker in order to make a nut harder to remove.
hardlyb nahhh...he’s got probably 14 lawn mowers behind is house that’s been through the ringer..vibrates and shakes like bronco, he could easily rig something up to one of those and do a time test or something to figure this out.. would be a great test, would like to know which product actually works “the best”..
He did test vibration on the blue products. Red are supposed to be for "permanent" application so strength and heat was focused on over vibration.
I used the Loctite 271 on my car’s brake caliper bracket since it has the vibration plus heat conditions when I changed my front brake rotors. Hopefully the bolt is easily removed when I need to replace my rotors in the future. If not heat gun to loosen it will be applied
Another great video, thank you for your efforts! :)
Here's an idea... you've done a few videos on gasoline engines running on different fuel sources, how about a diesel engine running on a variety of fuels like vegetable oil, used engine oil, etc..?
This is a great suggestion. I just acquired a small diesel generator, which I plan to use for video testing.
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What about subjecting the nuts to a vibration test and seeing if the loaded and unloaded torque has been effected. For the most part I go for locktight to prevent a bolt or nut from loosing torque due to the environment it is subjected to? Just an idea.
Yes, I wish I would have done this. Thank you for this recommendation!
Blknslvr06 You would want to use Vibra-Tite VC3 or VC4, for a vibration stressed fitting. I don’t even bother with Loctite anymore, Vibra-Tite has outperformed it time and time again in every situation for me.
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Gotta admit that ProSeal was pretty impressive. Been using loctite blue on my motorized bike, since the bike vibrates a bit. I put a drop in a piece of plastic, and brush it on the threads with a tiny children's art-paintbrush. Since it is kind of expensive for how much you get. I don't want to waste any.
So far, every bolt i've used LT-blue on has held true, but i'm quickly finding out.. every single bolt/screw on this bike needs loctite. Since this bike wasn't meant to go 35MPH on these roads with a 2 stroke engine. The vibrations are rough.
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I was just thinking about this!! A couple of years ago I learned that lesson the hard way when I was riding my motorized bike 10-12 miles out in the country and my bike rattled apart! Needless to say when I got back home I put loctite on every bolt and screw on my bike!
I have a seat spring for a smoother ride (100% worth it), and it has a hex bolt, and it CAME LOOSE while riding a couple miles from home.
I could not ride without it.. So i stopped near some houses, and luckily, one of the guys was home, who happened to have the allen key that i needed.. and i kid you not.. he's a small engine mechanic.. that has his own motorized bike!
My bike and the seat spring in question. It's in the middle of some upgrades ATM.
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Great suggestion! You're in luck. I tested them in this video but plan to put together another video on them this Spring. ruclips.net/video/HYOlZb2bmmU/видео.html
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would be nice to see comparation of brake pads. May be a big project, but for sure will resolve a lot questions.
Something like ATE, Brembo, TRW, some OEM pads etc
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Just another suggestion, try running an engine on load with flushing oil added to the normal oil. With a before and after lubricity test that would be interesting to see how much the oil breaks down. Nice one Keep them coming!!!
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Which epoxy paint is best in the following categories;abrasion resistance, shock load resistance, impact resistance, and any other categories that anyone has to add to them. Thank you.
Thank you for the video idea!
Can you test just super glue on the thread as a “cheap” alternate to threadlock
Thanks for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm super glue, the original Tennessee threadlocker. In all seriousness, for whatever reason applying oil to threads reduces the necessary torque for a given application and that has always confused me, a video testing and/or discussing that would be incredibly interesting to me.
James Mulvey Ok, so the ultimate goal of any threaded joint is to apply a clamping load. The way the nut “climbs” the threads and then bottoms out provides this force.
When the nut bottoms out but is still forced to turn, the bolt is stretched. The interference between the nut and the stretched bolt creates friction.
Lubricating the threads and the area under the nut therefore reduces this friction, which gives you a higher “conversion factor” between torque and clamp load. Therefore, for the same clamp load, you need less torque. Make sure you know whether the torque rating is for a dry or lubed fastener.
Man u are the best !! Just a streat forward answer keep testing and I will keep telling and showing your videos to at least 100 different people that have been in the field for 20 plus years !! They love the videos as well !!
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Your welcome 🙂
Love the graphs. Thanks for that improvement!!
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would super glue work as a thread lock that is a good question
This is a great question. I'll have to put together a video test on this.
i try to hold a nut from a guitar jack connector with regular Krazyglue and it work well !
@@jerremmDon't be a jerk
How well does super glue work as a threadlocker?
Great video idea--thank you!
the great gradz if it doesn't get hot or wet super glue isnt too bad of a locker lol
Jay H Water actually hardens cyanoacrylate.
Water makes it cure instantly, but the bonding and strength are poor.
the great gradz super glue is a perfect thread locker on plastic, I used it all the time on my rc cars, if I had a screw strip out and didn't have time to replace the part before the next race, or if it was in a place where I had one keep backing out.
Thanks, I really appreciate the information and how you go about getting your results. Keep up the good work!
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man ive been watching your videos since the beginning. you are gonna be one of the top guys on youtube with great videos like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chrisfix should leave a comment here.
He's got a great channel!
Lol I learned about thread locker from Chris Fix
Could you do a comparison video on different brands of spray on lubricants/penetrating fluids , such as PB Blaster, Fluid Film, WD-40 etc
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I'd love to see him come up with a method for determining which actually works best.
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Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Thank you for these comparison videos. I’ve learned a lot from your work. Well done, sir!
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You should try using vacuum pump oil as oil in a motor’s crankcase
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How about which two-part epoxy works the best?
Thank you for this recommendation!. I tested some 2-part epoxies in the past, but I have more that I plan to test. Thanks again!
Hmm, not sure how I missed that one, gotta go back and check now
There are different types of two-part epoxies for different applications. He'd need to find comparable products from various brands for each application type. That would get insanely expensive very quickly. Some of those 2-part epoxies run into the hundreds of dollars per tube and require special applicator "guns" and mixing tubes.
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Clean an engine with diesel in the crankcase or a compare seafoame mixed :)
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I have and still do this all the time in my engine. Empty the oil fill with diesel and run for 15 minutes once a year to clean out the carbon.
I agree test it with ATF and diesel.
Also kerosene as well. I've been cleaning engines with kerosene all my life but I wonder if other products would work better.
See what cleans an engine more or damages
Add one of below to empty oil pan
diesel
Heating oil
2 stroke
Gearbox oil
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man! your videos saved me alot of testing money and time you genius! keep it up
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Thanks for all the time you put into these videos. They are extremely helpful.im gonna have to change some of the things i use
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When you see your thread locker fail and remember it's holding over 1000hp machine together :(
That's a bad day for sure!
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Never sell out. I don't know maybe someday. Please consider using an introduction. What is your name? Thanks
I don't ever plan to sell out. Quality of life is more important than money and quality of life normally declines with sponsorship deals. Thanks again, Todd
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I came from when you used to put stuff into that old lawn mower. I love your videos!
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Another Great video, a lot of work goes into these tests Thanks. Also using these comparison's surely helps consumers and the DIY guys.
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I'd like to have seen a fairly standard nail polish in this test as my other half never uses the last drops.
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Brilliant!!
If you use glitter nail-polish on screws and photograph them with a macro it makes a very good system to know if they have been tampered with as the glitter pattern is near impossible to reproduce.
I want to see you free up one of the engines you self destructed
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He did that a couple of weeks ago.
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Oh I didn’t see that one
Thanks for this video. Always a pleasure to watch these videos as I like to buy the best product available, as most of us do. Interestingly, I used this video to decide on a thread-locker for an RC project. A 150MPH capable 1/6 scale Formula 1 inspired radio controlled car. I kept having problems with the brushless motor coming loose from the motor mount due to the extreme vibrations with normal temps around 180f after a run, blue medium strength loctite was not enough even after careful application and cleaning of threads, so I will be picking up either red JB Weld or Permatex threadlocker, copper crush washers, and will be ultrasonic cleaning the bolts/mounts with dish soap and carb cleaner before mounting with red loctite. Good luck to future me trying to undo that setup, but at least it won't come loose again. Thanks again.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Love these videos!! Always honest and very fair testing!! Thank you sir!!
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What will happen if you put charcoal, food coloring in gas tank for results of getting colored smoke !?
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Sounds like a fun idea.
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جرح FM Smoke, even colored smoke is made by a chemical reaction, not a colored stain.
When I fed my pressure washer some dry grass clippings it spit sparks out too.
So does speedy dry ;)
How is glycol based coolants vs water, vs water with glycol additive for difference in performance in cooling?
This is a great video suggestion--thank you!
water wetter or engine ice
The results would be application specific. In some applications, purified water shows the best performance. In other applications, the water boils too quickly. It's a good test idea, just keep those 2 things in mind if he does the testing.
You can tell your take pride in this type of stuff. The way you take all variables out like changing the gloves each time clwamingt he bolts and stuff ect. One reason I like your videos. Keep up the good work.👍
I appreciate that! Thanks, will do!
As a self employed mechanic and I thank you very much due to my resources it limits me to comparative online forms and trial by error so thanks for all you do while being a professional trusted source
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It's amazing how involved he is with his viewers. It seems like he replies to every single comment on his videos. Keep it up man 👍
Thank you very much! I really enjoy the interaction and it helps me improve the content for everyone.
Hi can you see if a engine will work with hydrolic fluid as a lubricant and if it would run as a fuel too
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Your methodology is great. Keep up the great content. Thanks.
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Will be needing to get some thread locker soon. Thanks so much for the information!
You are welcome.
Hey can you test the 3M boat sealants like 3M 5200 and 4200 ? They're supposed to be crazy strong you can also compare them to others !
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Oh yeah, the various fiberglass resins would be excellent.
They do need a really long cure time, but they are extremely strong
TheSuraj03 3M has a 24 hour cure in their group as well !
Project Farm Anytime ! I love this channel 😁 very informative !
Use transmission fluid in the crankcase of a small engine
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It would probably work okay, especially the old Type F as it’s pretty much a red 20 weight oil if I recall.
Trans oil would work fine. It's just 20w base oil with a lot of additives. Just wouldn't be able to stand up for a long time.
I use tranny fuild in my 350 banshee going on 12 years now.
Love your videos. THANKS for the data chart at the end @9:09! And including the cost per unit is valuable data.
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Very interesting results. Not what I expected. Thanks.
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If you turned the oven off before putting the metal into it then the testing material never reached 300°F.
He just turned it on again man..
One point for observation.
Red thread locker is meant to be taken off by heat.
any threadlocker is
What are you talking about? This test was about testing how well each product performed. If you can undo a nut or bolt without having to heat it up, then it's fine to do so. Some application, such as going into aluminium, will destroy the threads if not heated up when removing. However, for the test this guy was doing, he wouldn't have heated it up as it would've defeated the while purpose of the test.
@@dan8t669 that's wrong too
thank you for that I'm just starting to do some spring maintenance on my motorcycle and this actually influenced my thread lock purchase!
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Great video as always and a great new end card with the final data. Merry Christmas PF!
Thank you and Merry Christmas!