Your Office is Where?!?
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2021
- In this episode, we're visiting a few unique spaces that sailors created offices or other unconventional spaces on the battleship.
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Ryan's screen pressence is getting better and better I remember when i first started watching he Was like "AHHH! Hi I am Ryan" Now hes more like that Really chill history teacher who students go to with questions at lunch.
Yes he has certainly grown into being a RUclips personalty.
Haha! I agree! I told him to practice his scripts before hand.
Dude has a battleship, why be nervous.
I read this as AHHH HI I AM A RYAN
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LOL. JUST. L. O. L!!!
I appreciate that he regularly uses curator as a unit of measurement
It’s a good measurement!
Same
Americans will use anything except the metric system
@@Mad8vCycles in fairness, the British invented horsepower, they literally decided to use farm animals as a unit of measurement
@clever username yep. It's just a meme that we are the only ones on the "standard" system
Former Air Force ICBM maintenance technician here. I have one of those giant flat head screwdrivers at 3:30. We used to use it to loosen and tighten screws in the floor plates on the suspended floors we worked on and under (also used it to pry said floor plates up so we could lift them up). Then one day we were told it was an unauthorized tool and couldn't be used anymore so my team chief told me to get rid it of it anyway I wanted to, so it went into the trunk of my car. :)
An "unauthorized tool..."
Was that some paper-pusher who said that?
Most likely due to the 1980 Damascus Titan missile accident. A tool was dropped rupturing a fuel tank causing an explosion and ejection of the warhead from the silo. After that they got a lot stricter about loose large tools around the missiles. I’m in no way affiliated with the Air Force, so that’s a guess….
@@cle_roknn3742 Yeah, dropping a tool in missile silo is a whole lot different than in your garage....
What type of missile were you assigned to?
That wrench belongs in a museum! Oh wait it already is. That wrench needs to be on display! Ryan for your next feat of manliness you shall single handedly move the wrench to the aft most public space for display.
Thank you
Heed the words of Dr. Indiana Jones! Remember he singlehandedly defeated the Nazis once...
That would put a spanner in the works!
I think (nothing but an educated guess) that the story about shipyard workers cutting into a “forgotten” machine shop is probably a result of block construction methods for shipbuilding. Parts of the ship (minus the deck but including the deck above) are constructed upside down for ease of welding and then flipped over and welded onto whatever is below them. Before this happens, anything too big or bulky to be moved through the door (like lathes and other big machine tools, for example) is put on the deck and then the room is put on top of them. If somebody at a navy yard has forgotten to make the cutout for a door, it would have to be cut out once the section was already in place. But the machine shop equipment would have already been placed there before the section was welded down above it. Hence the story of shipyard workers cutting into a bulkhead and finding a fully intact machine shop.
The story is true in regard to the Kitty Hawk, a friend worked for a commercial HVAC company that contracted a job on the ship. The ships drawing showed a void and there were pipes running through it that needed to be checked. they cut a door to access the space and found a complete machine shop from when the ship was built.
I always used to think about clearing a space behind some stock in wearhouse's I have worked at and sleeping there. But these guys actually did it.
cardboard boxes are more comfortable than you think.
Ive followed this channel for years, but only today it actually hit me that "how cool it is actually to have a frigging real full battleship as your personal playground and to explore". XD
Forget about metric or Imperial, support Battleship measurement system, based on the Curator measure!
A cubit? Well close...anyway.
As and Aircraft Electrician, I recognize the PSM-37 sweep meter. Nice to see you even have some stuff that has been replaced by digital multi meters.
Those were good meters. There was one that an antenna maintenance troop dropped from a 100 foot antenna. The thing bounced off several support members on the way down, and came to rest on the ground. They brought it to me to see if it was okay. I checked it out and it was still working. I think the steel bars it hit on the way down kind of broke its fall
Harbor Freight should start carrying propeller wrenches, just in case.
It'd be a good thing to grab, it'd probably only be $79
Just be sure to use it as soon as you buy it so you can return it when you're done just like everyone else does at Harbor Freight.
YES, I need one of those at my house. Glad I have a Backhoe to lift it, if I need it.
I've appreciated Ryan's demeanor from the get go because he seems genuine, approachable, and easy going. Many youtube personalities turn me off because they are self aggrandizing Yes, I do agree this channel has improved with experience gained, which is natural.
"Here, you can see the 6-inch deck" [knocks on it as if tapping on a sheetrock wall to find a stud] I'm pretty sure I heard arthritis in the making there.
That wrench would make a good display piece.
Amazing shout out to the birthday boy. Love the fact that you've recognized supporters and lovers of the channel.
1:30 lol that is so sweet. Happy Birthday Scott! It sounds like you have a great family
i would imagine that its simpler to just have every ship with their own wrenches rather than try and have all of the wrenches needed at the shipyards and try and keep track of them for decades.
kinda odd the wrench is in there but thinking on it its a lot more protected there. Truman's Wrench is in a bracket on the fantail.
that rack was probably added or kept there as a place to sit or lounge between work. if its like some of the deep areas i have been in, it likely takes a long time to get down there, so the sailors probably did it to avoid having to come up and out quite so often.
It is fairly difficult and prohibitively expensive to Fedex a ship's propeller wrench from Charleston to Paraguay.
Ship needs to be as self-sufficient as possible. Part of that is carrying the necessary tools to repair itself (even if that requires a foreign port or drydock).
@@mysterymete That was my thought as well, they didn't know where or when they would need to service it.
Well, seems like the propellers don't just use one of a couple standard sizes of wrenches.
*Darts at beginning of video*
ME: "YEah, more or less an accurate representation of shot dispersion in a BB."
Ryan, when you held up the screwdriver, I had an idea for a future video. How about one on the specialized tools used to maintain the ship when she was in service?
We had a screw driver like that one in our maintenance dept. It was used for everything but a screwdriver!
@@terryboyer1342 Ditto. It's not a battleship sized screwdriver, just a USN sized screwdriver(we had one up in MT51)
Want to see a great look on someone's face? When they show you a screwdriver like that, ask them if it's metric or english! :D
@@terryboyer1342 Yes, slot head screws are kind of rare today, especially in that kind of size, so something like that is mostly used as a pry bar.
My father and I came out for our birthdays this summer and toured the New Jersey. It was a great tour and thank you soo much for your hospitality! I know my dad enjoyed being able to visit where he used to work in DC central. He was stationed on the Missouri and worked on the Wisconsin in dry dock.
Congratulations on your coming out. I hope you both had a super duper swell time.
I can totally believe that that was an electrical space. That sure looks like an AN/PSM4 multi-meter hanging from the overhead!
Still use one today right next to my Fluke.
I thought it was an old Simpson! Lol.
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It was/is a Simpson. The military designation for that model Simpson Multi-meter is AN/PSM4 or AN/PSM4A.
You can still buy them new, today.
Thank you! I had a really nice one and then lost it moving across the country. Now I'm going to buy a brand new one!
A real testament to their durability.
In the first space, that looked like a Simpson 260 multimeter hanging. Probably one of the best analog meters ever made, and was still a "Go To" tool for certain tasks even after the Navy went to the Fluke 77AN digital multimeter.
The sweep of an analog needle is still a very good visual tool.
I immediately noticed that too; my father had a 260 back in the 80s. Simpson still exists, and they still make those!
@@shawnbottom4769 A digital meter is great when you need an exact value. They really suck when you are are looking for a pulse or a transition.
Still use one today
Used a Simpson 260 back in the 1970's in our electric shop. Great meter. Now use nothing but Fluke. Do own. Simpson 5,000 volt battery operated Megger.
The engineering chiefs had our office in 4MMR's uptakes during SLEP on Kitty Hawk. Wouldn't want to do that when steaming...
Old timer taught me the best thing for a long heavy screwdriver was for finding rough ball bearings. Even in a loud room if you held one ear to the handle end of large screwdriver and other end on ball bearings you could hear a ruff near end of usefull life bearing.
Or finding a misfiring cylinder.
For so many seamen apprentices, seamen, it's a fantail watch, whatever watch. Hours looking out at water. But very important.
Sounds like trucking would be a natural transition into the civilian world!
I've made a few propeller wrenches when I worked at the shipyard. They were usually cut out of 6" steel on a servograph oxy-fuel CNC machine. It usually took the better part of a day to cut one out.
"Hi, didn't see you there... " -- The editing is quite good on this video! Congrats on the continued growth.
They need to figure out a way to cancel out the echo though. Maybe with a second microphone somewhere to record the echo so it can be distally removed.
Most of the storage is for bras and wigs for crossing the equator, and lard and olives, of course.
Okay, so I have never served or know much about the Navy in general (I'm more into the engineering and technology) so is that some sort of tradition or prank?
@@Tuberuser187 Crossing the equator ceremonies is a big mariner tradition, especially for those doing f for the first time.
One of my profs in college, despite having a perfectly good office in one of the engineering buildings, chose to have his office hours in a bar near campus.
His office hours were very popular. I'm sure you can guess why.
My quantum mechanics professor did that also.
@J honestly it's always professors that have been at the school for years
@J He had tenure. Not that anyone would have given him flak for it, half the engineering program would be rioting if he was asked to leave.
I have a few TAs who, despite being able to book space for office hours, hold them at the student pub next door so they can eat and perhaps drink during them (something not allowed by university rules for classrooms).
Have a story of my grandfather (a marine) and how the battleship New Jersey saved his life in Vietnam. We are planning to come out next summer so he can finally see the ship that saved his life so many years ago.
Stories time please
Yes. Now that you've got our attention, please don't just leave us hanging!
This was great! I'm trying to imagine the look on people's faces when it was suggested that they go to Sears to buy an air conditioner and mount it into the wall of of the ship! Or, the story of the ship coming to dock, and the captain announcing "ok, nobody gets shore leave until we find the propeller wrench!". If you told people that the ship had a propeller wrench, and didn't have it on video, nobody would believe you... Finally, what other ship could you mount shelves to the wall with a giant stick welder, and not have to worry, any, about hurting the ship. Amazing stuff. Need to get down there for a tour.
14:30 yep, that's grandpa. I think that interview is from 02-03 timeframe iirc.
Birthday! I visited for my birthday and got to meet Ryan!
Easily top 5 best birthdays.
I have visited Missouri and Massachusetts. I found the deep dark passages and compartments to be fascinating. At the time I went to Massachusetts, it was all self-guided and you could go just about as deep into the ship as you wanted. You could certainly go deeper than I went. At the time I was working as an engineer for a well-known fuse company. I found a storage room still filled with boxes and boxes of old fuses. It was really cool. I would've gone deeper if my then wife wasn't scared of how isolated it was down there. If there was a loss of power, you'd never find your way out. LOL.
Awesome seeing the propeller wrench, and the men working on the propeller. Reminds me of a gigantic version of an AR15's Armorers wrench, and barrel nut.
I love learning about the neat hidden stuff like this.
Our metal shop office was the turbine exhaust going up to the stacks from 4MMR. The LPO's desk fit perfect under it on the Ranger and we also made s large locker about the same height with a layer of foam on it-perfect for takin a nap under it.
My last ship had an overhead storage area in the IC/Gyro Shop with a mattress buried back behind the shelves. It was generally used in the 14-48 hours before getting underway, where we had equipment online so that the gyros could settle out. The space was required to be manned during this period, but an actual standing watch was not required. Our compromise was to just have a person qualified for underway IC/Gyro watch (generally the Duty IC for that duty section) sleep down in the shop so that he could respond to any system alarms.
As a notoriously heavy sleeper, I'd frequently just crash there if I had the 04-08 watch, just so the midwatch didn't need to rely on the engineering S&S watch/runner being able to actually wake me up...The standing watch could just yell up the ladder without waking up half of berthing.
I like the personal message you included.
Recently I've seen a youtuber relay a fans proposal to his gf, that was also very lovely.
Very enjoyable video, as always.
There was similar scuttlebutt about a dockyard matey being accidentally sealed inside a void in the Great Eastern ( I guess riveted in!) and his relics being found years later.
My wife's grandfather was an aircraft mechanic with the navy during WWII in the Pacific.
He and a fellow mechanic were assigned to one of the battleships. When they reported for duty, the officer they reported to responded with something to the effect of "I don't really have any use for 2 aircraft mechanics, also we don't have assigned bunking space for you." (I suspect by this point radar was being used for determining where shots fell instead of the floatplanes on the ship)
My wiife's grandpa and the other mechanic were assigned 2 bunks deep in the bowls of the ship under the turrets, just like the ones Ryan pointed out here. My wife says that he was "very deaf" later in life.
So some of these spots might have been used for "overflow" for people who were assigned at the last minute, etc.
This channel is one of the coolest things. Thank you!
I absolutely love these videos.
So fascinating! Keep up the good work fellas!
I did go on a scout trip as a kid that happened to coincide with my birthday and we slept on HMS Belfast over here in the UK.
I recognized the propeller nut wrench before you said what it was... Our ship went into dry dock and the shipyard asked the engineer where our propeller nut wrench was. We didn't know where our wrench was, so the shipyard fabricated a wrench for us. and after the yard was done with it and gave it to us, the engineer had it welded to a bulkhead so that we would have it next time we needed it.
I guess keeping the rachet onboard lets them tear down whilst waiting on parts if they are forced into an allied shipyard,
Getting down to the nitty gritty....great video Ryan.....Bravo
Hahaha...I can relate to Mr Dixon. Sometimes it's just easier to sleep where you work. I remember one field op I was on, I was the only Data Marine there and was always in the COC (Combat Operations Center...a really cool name for a tent. lol This is where we flew ops from, though.) anyway so I said screw it and slept in the back with all the servers and stuff.
It ended up being awesome, though. I took one of the unit's computers, moved the hard drive partition, installed my own fresh install of Windoze, and that was our "morale machine". I had speakers, my phone got GREAT service where we were at (which is extra surprising given that it was T-Mobile) so I tethered it to the computer for Internet...I had everything dialed in! So much so that, by the end of the op, a bunch of other people were sleeping in there, too. 😆 I had Internet, Netflix, speakers...everything. lol I MAY have even brought along my very own bottle of SoCo. Hahaha
--rmp5s
0651, VMU-3, USMC, 09-14
to Ryan. I've noticed in a lot of videos. that when you point out a unauthorized add on of a AC unit. you say they "Vent to the other side," but in reality. most units like that are actually air tight between the two-half's of the unit. the air you feel "blowing out the back." is just air from that side being recirculated. unless you open the vent on the AC unit itself. then its air tight. but they are deff not water tight by any means.
Just thought id point that out. And Please keep up the good work. You and your camera operator. make some really neat videos
Thank You
That intro had me rolling, Ryan is wonderfully self aware and his growth as a presenter is cool to see. Great vid!
Thank you again for the videos. I truly hope if I ever return to Philadelphia that I make it across the river to see the USS New Jersey.
“If you’re following on your booklet of general plans at home?…” 😂 Let me pop that out real quick
Happy birthday, Scott!
Saw a Simpson what used to be a model 260 vom meter hanging up. Have not seen the analog model since the late 70's. Great meter. Propeller wrench looks like it would take several strong men to just move it.Amazing that a ship as big as the New Jersey uses every inch of available space.
Used a Simpson 260 during electronics training in the early 80’s.
Purdue University still used Simpson 260 meters in 2000 for the freshman EE lab courses. Definitely a staple for many decades. The Fluke 179 is probably the closest modern equivalent.
We used a meter like that in wireline so it didn't set off our explosives
I believe that machine shop story. When I was stationed at MCAS Miramar in the late '90s I was on a working party renovating the chow hall into a library. All the kitchen equipment was untouched and completely walled off. When everything was done you would never know anything was covered up. Someday somebody will bust those walls down and find a complete industrial kitchen.
I have a true Lexington story. The space we discovered during our 1984-85 shipyard overhaul in Philly was on the O-2 starboard just aft of the deck-edge elevator, starboard passageway across the passage from the LPO (inport) office. It was labeled as a void, but turned out to be a 40mm ammo hoist from magazines to flight deck immediately overhead.
(On Essex class ships, there are only two decks between flight deck and hangar deck, O-1 and O-2.) The space still had the chains, conduits and pulleys in it, which were removed during the overhaul, and OA Div was assigned DC responsibility for that part of the space at the O-2 level, as it was just a few feet away from our fire station, anyway.
You guys should probably check / or take out the batteries from hat meter, before they leak.
That was great. So glad the turret rack survived.
Investing in a lav mic would make these videos better by 10 fold
They ARE using a lav mic. It's the black device on his lapel. In my experience, it sounds like the audio is out of phase. This is typically caused by recording his audio and the camera audio in stereo and the two signals are partially cancelling each other out. It can be eliminated by separating the signals into 2 mono channels and only using the lav mic.
Endlessly fascinating.
That wrench is called a ships key every ship has a particular nut that only that key fits to remove the screw.
I love how we can see the video production quality constantly improving with every new video. Great job as always!
Wild, I heard that exact story about IBM main plant in Poughkeepsie. That they opened a wall up and found a shop space with leftover WW2 tooling and parts. I was shown a M1 receiver allegedlyfrom that room.
Just downloaded a set of general plans to follow along and I'm embarrassed to say I always thought the uptakes were a straight shot to the boilers. That said, I'm not surprised that some of these "offices" were where they were at. Space is at a premium on a ship, no mater how big she is.
I need that screwdriver for removing the stocks on Lee Enfield rifles.
I can’t wait to visit that Ship !
I never seen a pipe rack. Was on CVN-71 in the 80s. Don't think it ever had them. I will ask my dad about em. He served on carriers back in the 60s. Where did I sleep you ask. Well I slept on O-3 level at the very back of the fan tail. Wasn't bad at all. You could hear air plains landing. Never kept me from sleeping. Our shop was on O-3 level just forward of the front most start board elevator. Really long walk from where we slept. For you who don't know, the O-3 level is first desk below flight deck. Goes across the whole ship including the hanger deck.
My father served on the Missouri during and after WWII, he told me pipe racks was all he slept on. Many of them, depending on location were chained up when not in use, so he rarely had a chance to lay down to snooze outside of his shared rack time. He told me sailors got use to taking a quick snooze here and there standing up, if you had a free minute or two. Best wishes 👍
I love that that dude basically put a bunk there to get a better commute.
I love this man
I have one of the exact same Multimeters. They were used in mining a lot as well.
11:08 When your ear finally pops
Happy Birthday Scott!
When I was in the late eighties one of those rumors had it such was found on the USS Cape Cod. I suspect this is one of the tales too good to not be told over and over again and too fun not to find new legs with each generation of sailors. Half the fun is getting people to believe you.
HBD Scott!!
Ships carrying their own wrenches has the same energy as "always carry your first aid kit, always use the casualty's first aid kit when rendering aid." Feels like a drydock should have a set of wrenches, that can't possibly be that tall of an ask, but then again, that wrench is probably only a dozen tons, might as well carry it just in case.
Film using the propeller wrench when you put her up in dry dock. That should be cataloged when men who know how to use it can still demonstrate how to use it: should the need become unnecessary later
🤣🤣 a bunch of sailors cut a hole in part of a battleship to install an air conditioner..absolutely hilarious.
When they were closing the Darby base in Nuremburg and the MP's there were doing the final walk through, they found a few rooms that were locked, no keys and had Apple IIc's in them still on along with some records. Then there were some plans for defense in another room.
He should be confident cause he's got the bestest and badass Battleship around!
When office = head, you save travel time.
On Iowa we leaked more oil than any other battleship as well.
I was on uss enterprise and I had a void in the ic shop. We opened it for storage from strip ship and found a ladder going down two deck and found a jp5 pump room. The limit torques were still covered in plastic. So as any good ic shop we put furniture down there and a big tv. It was the tv / beer room on deployment. The smoking lamp was always lit in the space.
Happy Birthday Scott
I would love to have that old VTVM hanging from the overhead, it was one of our primary tools and is still relative today in my book, as modern meters do not average voltages well.
Happy birthday Scott
The intact machine shop story, I heard it when I was in the Navy in 89. The ship in question was the USS Nimitz.
I heard it as the Kitty Hawk. Story I heard was it was found by some engineer tracing piping. Supposedly traced a line going into a bulkhead, and couldn't find where it went out on the "other side".
One can only imagine how much paperwork is required to run a battleship in the 80's.
Strange that they used the space around the uptake as storage for things that may burn. I was on motorman's watch when a funnel fire occurred. The funnel shone like the sun and was about a curator shorter afterwards. Luckily there where nothing else then funnels in the shaft where the funnels went up to the top. The radiation of heat would probably ignited most burning stuff. Have there been funnel fires on steamships in your navy?
We didn't "steal" anything. We reappopriated or repurposed stuff. Comshaw as it were. Us Snipes were super experts at this.
Yup.
All of those little odds and ends like the can openers and wrenches/screwdrivers and things like that would be cool to collect and keep in a box. I would show it off to people and be like "Dude look at this. Know what that is? A screwdriver, yeah but from the USS New Jersey! Oh and the behemoth wrench thats the size of a Harley Davidson motorcycle is the wrench they used to change the propellers on USS New Jersey! Cool right?! I have no use for any of these but I mean it's from a freaking battleship!" :D
I would really like to see a video about how they did different welds on the different steel types. How does one actually go about welding 12" Class A Armor?
And, how did they join the armour plating before welding, ie on USS Texas etc.
Steel plate is usually cut with a bevel and butted against another plate with a bevel. It is then welded with a filler rod which leaves a bead. These beads are stacked until it fills up the grove created by the two butted together beveled plates. Whether this was done with a bevel on both sides and welded from both sides, or simply done on the face side would likely have more to do with access to the plate. You can find videos of thick pressure vessels like boilers, nuclear reactors, etc., being welded this way.
The filler material likely varied in composition depending on the process being used to weld the plates as well as what was available. Though I would guess the majority of these plates were welded with oxy-fuel (most likely oxyacetylene in the US), followed by "stick" welding, aka shielded metal arc welding (SMAW). In WWII oxyacetylene would have been preferred because the acetylene could be made on site or nearby, and didn't require specially coated rods like SMAW does. It also enjoyed the most infrastructure for logistics at that time.
@@alexwood5425 Older armour was riveted.
My Uncle was a welder in the Phila Navy Yard and welded on BNJ during her construction. He told me that to weld to armor, the armor has to be preheated in a similar fashion that one would preheat cast iron. Class B armor can be welded on both the back and face if preheated, but Class A can only be welded on the back; if you preheat and weld on the face, it "spoils" or negates the heat treatment that creates the face-hardening.
13:10 "Reveille reveille. All hands heave out and trice up."
Kid on playground: My dad has a boat and it's 58 feet long.
Curator's kid: My dad has a boat too. It's 887 feet long.
Kid on playground: You win.
Kid with father on active duty ship: my dad has a boat which actually sails.
Let's go already.
it's fascinating to me how different spaces in the ship echo and distort his voice differently
All of the tools we used were non-sparking. Our spaces were all AC and cold as hell…had to wear our green ‘watch jackets’ in sonar control and lower sonar…the snipes hated us…they were sweaty and we were chillin’ 🤘OMG…I would have loved having a ‘skating’ rack! I would skate in a space during DCPO times…that was rarely even noticed. 😉😁
I have a semi-complete set of beryllium tools. They are non-sparking, soft in comparison to hardened steel. They are awesome … and never used anymore. Guess I have run out of expensive gov’t projects to fix. I do not have a $500 Air Force hammer - those are hard to come by. 😬
In 2 fire on the DDG8 the few visitors we got were ESWS candidates when we went up to the arctic circle who had wear fire retardant dungerees with long sleeves or of type and those were rare among the "chilli' " rates. Even we were hanging out and staying busy there so we wouldn't be picked to be sent to work any where else that wasn't as warm.
Quite a difference from when we had been in the gulf and the four forced draft steam turbine blowers corners of the upper level were hitting 160f - then it had been go there, wipe up any oil, get your readings, quick study of how well it is working, look at the sw cooler, look for fire and flooding, get the heck out and get back to the btow or other watch station and get under a vent. If you had to spend over five minutes there you were doing it wrong. And, tease the guys doing the heat monitoring because they could monitor the heck out of the heat but couldn't do much about it.
We had a rake in the armory for duty days until an officer saw it and had us remove it. Best pace on the ship to sleep with a half head one deck up. USS Simon Lake As-33 1996-1999
Ah sailor scuttlebutt. I sure do miss Navy mud and scuttlebutt.
On the USS Hermitage (LSD-34) in the early '80s we put a rack in the Electrical office for the duty Electrician to sleep.
15:05 I visited USS Iowa on my birthday in July 2013, and I visited the ship again last year.
We need a tee shirt that says "So!!" on it
That prop wrench should be restored and displayed on deck or in a toured ship space!