Covering Your Aft (Steering)
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- In this episode we're exploring some of the spaces around Aft Steering to see some of the unique ways the shipbuilders dealt with the armor.
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Ryan Szimanksi. The only guy i know who can make a empty room very interesting.
I would make a joke about them posting a video of paint drying "on a battleship" but tbh I'd probably watch that
We did that. Really. Look for 50 shades of Battleship Grey
@@BattleshipNewJersey ooh
Lyndebeigh could pull it off flawlessly! But I agree he also does a fantastic job!
@@BattleshipNewJersey Came back to say I watched that video and now I'm trying to decide if I should paint my bathroom "Equipment Gray"
I guess it really shouldn't surprise me that there is so much "hidden" space on a battleship. You could walk around for days and not see everything. These videos have been great!
I thought the was interesting too! I wonder how much of that is still in the newer ships, especially the newest designed with CAD and such.
1100 spaces on it.
My dad always said the had their hideouts where he and his gang could get way from the rest of the hustle. They kept their stash of grub and played cards, take naps, whatever.
The fact that you can only hear the sloshing sound in the video when you stop editing it out really demonstrates the leaps and bounds you have made with the sound quality great work
Was that editing, or was that a simple switch in the mic being used?
Not just sound quality. They've really up their game all around; early videos are almost difficult to watch in comparison. It was like sitting at the back of a lecture hall where the lecture is being delivered purely through a pipe made of plastic bendy-straw in a normal speaking voice with a guest lecturer who didn't really think about what they wanted to say.
@Howard Hammermann That is precisely what I was thinking.
@@whyjnot420 It might well be just turning off or down the "denoise" effect. Premiere Pro (and I imagine other editing software) has really terrific sound editing tools built-in.
@@whyjnot420 De-noising an intermittent noise is pretty much impossible. The best you can do is eq but this is only effective when the frequency you're cutting is very clean or outside the vocal range.
Just toured the New Jersey a month ago. Had been on it when it was in service as a guest in Portland, OR during The Rose Festival back in around 1990. What an amazing piece of human engineering, and the work you're doing to preserve it while educating us about it is absolutely top notch!
I went aboard her then too! What a sight, all those guns pointing out - like an armored Porcupine compared to the modern ships! New Jersey's presence brought out Portland's noise makers, which was hilarious itself.
This is one of the reasons these are so interesting. Ryan's remark that this ship was built in a time when "welding was new" AND it took place in my Dad's lifetime.
welding was invented for ww2 basically. battle ships were built knowing we were new at it, so just go 2x what you think you need and start from there. meanwhile, if you look at liberty ships... you realize just how new welding was
@@seldoon_nemar I remember my father talking about riding liberty ships between islands in New Guinea, the ships were built in sections and were built so fast that sometimes the sections didn't quite match up, so they would just fill the gaps with more weld, he said some of the deck welds were so big you needed to be careful not to trip over them
@@steveredacted1394 That sounds about right. They were basically made with the intention of only ever being used for a handfull of trips at most. I think there is only one remaining example of one
Some good news. A dry dock has been found for Battleship Texas
Does the museum have any of the large rivets that were not installed that you can show? They have to be monsters. Fascinating to see the sharp curves of the aft hull contrasted by the armored box for steering.
those are large enough, the shipyard probobly made just enough in the machine shop. if one fails it's unlikely to be noticed. if enough fail that repair is needed... you're at a shipyard with a machine shop with a hole in the side of the boat
So I get vice admiral Lee from Drach this morning and more awesome footage and info on the new jersey in the afternoon...today was a good day!
And Admiral Lee was on New Jersey for a short time. Hopefully Drach will come on board and we can have a video with the both of them.
@@markwatson3135 he is planing a US trip soon, it would be awesome to have them both together on the New Jersey!!
@@markwatson3135 I hate to tell you, but Admiral Lee has passed away... Unless there is a ghost, maybe practicing his marksmanship around visitors? And yea I know you meant Drach and Ryan ..
You shouldn't have mentioned it. Now you HAVE to explore the sewage tanks.
Gresvig Yes . I really thought He was going to take us thru that Door . Ryan this is the Second request for a Sewage Video .
It's coming out tomorrow+
@@BattleshipNewJersey Ewww!
@@BattleshipNewJersey Roto-Rooter, HELP! We have lost Ryan in a sewage tank in the New Jersey!
No, this job pays nowhere near enough!
BNJ is very lucky to have someone as dedicated and passionate as Ryan. He’s a great host and I really enjoy all the work he puts into these videos.
The requisition order and installation crew for that fan and switch could be showing up anytime now. Which would be ahead of schedule given the Navy logistics. ;)
It's sitting on a desk at NavSea waiting for ShipAlt review and approval. And then it'll be "waiting parts" and COSAL support.
A good knife is always sailor's friend. I was impressed how fast was Ryan able to pull it "out of nowhere" and point it directly to the welding place.
The light reminded me of an old pre 1900's fortress I've been to. They had a special hallway around the powder magazines of a turret where they could light the kerosene lamps to provide light in the powder room that was protected by a think permanent pane of glass.
I have a fort just 7 miles from me with a very similar arrangement, a bit earlier though circa 1544
8:00 you're close, but not quite there. to weld two plates of that size, and to keep them structurally sound, you need full penetration. meaning that you're carving a huge V between the plates and filling it with layer upon layer of weld. they control the heat well, but the problem is that you're still depositing cast material, and as it cools it shrinks, adding internal tension, meaning that if struck, the weld line would crack instead of deform. welding was also new, and they didn't entirely trust it or have the working knowledge of it like we do today. to have the confidence to draw up a welding shcedual that would work.
also, I love how some aperentice at the shipyard torch cut something to the right of that reinforcement plate in the shiopyard
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I got what you mean by creating a wedge between two thick armor plates that is being joined together. It makes it easier to fill it with weld after. As you point out, the welded part would be the weakpoint of the armor. Its possible they have a way back then of relaxing the stress of the welds molecular structure to make it less brittle more ductile and mechnically stronger
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 That's called annealing and there's a process, however getting the armor rating isn't going to happen, you need more control to be able to temper it like that
@@seldoon_nemar so tempering and annealing was a practice that was known to man since time immemorial. Even in the 14th century, Japan was known for its vaunted katanas which was made using special metal forging process that allows it to be sharp at the edge while being ductile with the rest of the body making it specially both extremely sharp as well as a tough kind of sword. In the 19th century, Japan adapted the british vickers ship armor technology which allowed them to catch up with the world in terms of ship building techniques. Accordingly, the British did test a 15 inch Japanese armor and they find out its even better than theirs which further implys that Japan did improve their own armor technology that they havr learned from the British. Based on the above, its possible the Japanese develop a special temperating and annealing process for ship armor building.
Haaaa I love how the CHT tank door is painted brown. Thats great, its something my shipmates and I would totally do if we were allowed to.
Welding high carbon steel is tricky. It can be done, but the right alloy welding rod must be used, and heating the material to be welded is essential. Hard to do when it is a foot thick on a ship.. Plus you would then need to retemper the steel, or at least strictly control it's cooling to avoid brittleness.
Brittleness probably isn't that big of an issue if you can preheat the metal enough, since the huge mass of metal will prevent rapid cooling which is how you end up with brittle metal after heat treatment
How do you know so much :| ?
@@vtr0104 it's called being a welder
@@richardmillhousenixon
Correct, but imagine trying to heat up foot thick slab of steel in the building slip as they build the ship!
@@mahbriggs You could use an inductive blanket to heat up the area around the weld
On the Sacramento (AOE-1) we had a fair number of small storage spaces, especially up at the bow. In the 90s my workcenter turned one into a sort of "office" where us boat mechanics could hang out away from the official division office. It had been designed as the sonar control room, had the foundations for the equipment still on the deck but I'm not sure if Sacramento ever actually HAD the sonar system it was designed to carry. Surrounding aft steering were the aft capstan machinery spaces, though the stbd one also held the "sail loft" with it's big commercial sewing machine for making tarps. That also was where the Bosun's Mate who ran the sail loft kept (and used) his tattoo gun...
with its
By brother R.I.P. was on the B.B.62 for 8 years and talked about like it was the best time of his life....miss you brother.
"That's where we store our little wizard boy, and a lot of our food." LOL!
Your dry delivery of that almost made it slip by me.
Speaking of odd spaces, there appears to be an entire floor missing from a building at my college. There's a large space between a gym space at one end and office/classroom spaces at the other that doesn't appear on any floorplans, but some rough measurements show there to be about 20' of hallway between the back wall of the offices/classrooms and the gym space. I suspect that it was blocked up during one of the many renovations the building has had in the last 110 years.
My requests to knock down a wall to see have been steadfastly denied by the university.
Making a reasonably small hole and then inserting a bore-scope would do it.
I like how you encourage comments and engagement at the end of the videos.
I was the Quartermaster on watch in After Steering aboard the USS Boxer LPH4 when she was able to get up to 33knots during her last ORI .
She rattled and shook like a carnival ride .
That cloths handling space really has a abandoned warehouse feel
EXCELLENT episode folks. More of this exploration/knowledge dump please! This is great content- his passion and knowledge shine!
Back when i was the engineer on a 250' motor yacht, i had my own little man cave in the rudder room. I had it doped up with christmas lights and a couple lawn chairs, a little table and a refrigerator, it was nice, you could open the doors on each side to access the swim platform. The chef and the laundry guy and i used to play cards and smoke weed back there.
Seems like the New Jersey is like This Old House: all these modifications and patches made over the years. Different kinds of wiring, plumbing, heating, windows… the list goes on and on.
Right? It makes it feel so lived-in.
My favorite part is the wood shop. Where somebody torched a hole in a water-tight bulkhead so they could pop in a window A/C :D
Interesting seeing the way the lights are done, it reminds me of the costal forts in England where in many cases the magazine was lit through windows via candle/oil lamp or other naked flame, the lamps being accessed via a narrow passageway that typically encircled the magazine, some of these forts date back to Henry VIII of circa 1540 to 1550
Our old family house on the east coast had a basement that was divided into a main room, the oil tank room, and a workshop. And then there was this little annex opposite the workshop that turned a corner into a dead end. I remember we stored old screen doors and that kind of thing back there, but it was such a random small space. Oh, and it scared the bejeezus out of me.
Poor lighting and distance from "escape"?
Thank you for the great content. I do have a question. What would have been the quietest part of the ship while underway? I’m sure the sailors has some place to get some peace and quiet.
Simply fantastic, Ryan. Pls keep up the amazing work and making great content to keep this ship not just museum maintained, but alive.
Love these types of videos. Hidden spaces, spaces not seen by most. Keep it up Ryan
Ryan one taking it very hard. Excellent job one of the best informational videos on an unusual part of the ship congrats
These videos are exactly what I was looking for.
Well, little wizard boys belong under the stairs so rightey-o! And thanks for talking about the armor plating.. very clever about the weld strips they riveted to the plate. Neat vid
Great job Ryan. I find the ship building very interesting. Especially about the armor and revits and welding.
Thank you again for your work.
Wizard boy... dang. I was thinking what that could be? a vacuum? some crazy snow thing from the Philly/ Jersey area... then it hit me.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is a wizard boy??????
@@georgeswindoll9138 Harry Potter character stayed under the steps of a stair case while a young kid.
Loving all the nerdy references he tosses out in the videos. Did Ryan use to stomp up and down the stairs back home? 🤣🧙♂️
Terrific documentation. Thanks.
I so much enjoy hearing this! Keep up an excellant job!
We recently renovated the roof of our home, made some slight changes to the room layout, and took into account that we have some long stuff for our sailboats we need to store somewhere... So we made a loft accessible from the hallway to the bedrooms so we can put masts pieces and sails up to 4 meters long up there. We also built a closet into the wall in that same hallway with the exact measurements of some of our bags
We used it for a year by now and it's one of the most useful storage spaces in our house :D
The bags with boat parts fit well, we have enough space for the bags & sailing clothes, we can store the mast pieces up there, we can store the sails up there, and there's enough room for everything we take home in winter. I'd recommend using a hallway upstairs like this
I have a small space underneath an up stairs steps in my townhouse. It’s where our living room closet is located. And there is a small door where our water meter to the house is and small storage space where I keep a miter saw. Also in this closet is a secret door in the floor which leads to a 3 ft crawl space . Our gas furnace, water softener and lots of storage.
Very cool and thanks for sharing God bless you and your family
Battleship New Jersey; *"hey, wanna see are aft"..*
Me; _"Yesnt"_
Great video from the battleship.
Love the exposed framing. Its the little things.
Also, film 10/10 smooth for this one. Well done.
Some officer found that space unused, bolted on some scrap metal for security, and used that as his private den 😂
I could see someone working in that space drawing a dream of an outlet and a fan on the wall think how hot some of those spaces got in the summer
I am imagining a young Les Nessman go to the drawing and turning on an imaginary fan.
All those rivet holes drilled into 13" of hardened steel boggles my mind. And all in exactly the right location. Especially when I have trouble drilling a little hole in a 2X4.
I'm not sure precisely how it would have been done at the time, but they have magdrills that lock onto steel plating with an electromagnet, essentially giving you a drill press anywhere you want one. The holes in the plating and in the gusset plate would have been drilled simultaneously with the whole thing in place.
I think the primary thing you'd worry about with trying to weld on face hardened armor would be that the weld would fail (as you saw), or that you might spoil the annealing and soften the armor in that space by the welding process. This is very similar to the tempering and case hardening process that you go through for things like knife making.
Really cool. Thanks
all these small details are very interesting
Since you asked about weird spaces... at the back of one closet we have a almost-square cubby about waist high and a few feet deep. Took us forever to figure out that its a void space from the corner where two kitchen cabinets meet. Waste not, want not, I suppose. Made a handy place to build an insanely deep shoe rack. :)
it's a
I've got an odd 2 level attic, one is a machinery room (furnace/AC unit) and some LONG term storage items that might need to be used to repair something around the house (paint cans from the original builders ect) and the other is a glorified closet.
With all the angles built in, it's no wonder there's odd shaped areas like this all over the ship.
"At my house we store a lot of stuff under the stairs. That's where we keep our little wizard boy..." 😂 😂 😂
Looking forward to seeing you at the Salem.
I really like your wireless lav mic. Makes the sound much, much better.
so much to learn before you really "know" this amazing creation.
I had an apartment that part of an old house. Under the stairs was a secret area, accessible through a 1’ wide door.
One closet was so big, it had its own hidden closet. Another closet was as big as the bedroom.
Our little wizard boy hahaha oh man, i didn't know what the hell you were on about for about .5 of a second and then it clicked, i burst out laughing and scared my poor fat old cat haha =) great dry delivery... I'll be emailing to get on the book list shortly =D
Good stuff
great video, thank you
Then again, the plans for the USS New Jersey could be reworked into a great adventure for Dungeons and Dragons! What monster or booby trap or treasure will Ryan find behind the next hatch?
Ryan opens a door and Drach is there in full plate armour. 😉
That could be fun, dragons and drakes in boilers, climbing through and up and over to navigate, finding lost treasures in trunks and so, bypassing locked hatches and such.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a seaman.
2:08 very nice locksmith skills
Oh yeah, live in a 2 story town home, and have a room under the stairs.
Its a utility room, food and weapon storage room. Figured was pretty easy to armor, and way cheaper then a safe so why not right?
And man you are way to generous with your wizard boy! Mine sleeps curled up on top of the water heater in that room and that's it!
Now i really want to know why frame 199 has that extra support tube. Is it just for rigidity or is there something heavy above it? maybe its for handling forces associated with the rudders? Every time Ryan crawls in a new obscure space i have new obscure questions.
it's for
Good view of the deck armor at 1:17, above the narrator.
My friend was fixing RAF ground support stuff and sometimes they would go past the decommissioning date while at the workshop. So they fixed them up and off to auction they went. So I can easily believe a ship was still being fixed and upgraded just before it sailed to storage.
I was on an Australian FFG7 we received a package with a paper tape reader on a cable the Leading Seaman told me ooh we ordered that about 4 years ago and 2 years ago they removed the machine its for.
@@jackdbur That sounds spot on :o)
“Our little wizard boy” 🤣🤣🤣
Find Waldo would be a cool thing to put Ryan in a striped shirt and knit cap and we go a hunting for Waldo uh Ryan.
I know this is an older video but the welding to the armor situstion is super common issue in welding. In a perfect world, when welding, you want both pieces to be the same alloy and the same thickness. Welding small/thin pieces to a MASSIVE chunk of steel is hard, the armor would be a heat sink and the weld would ve cold and not stick to the armor.
Ryan has one of the coolest jobs I think.
Nice Aft buddy
You guys should get a weld inspector aboard the ship and see how those welds have stood the test of time
Edit: not saying the ship is falling apart, I’d just like to see how the structural of the weld compares to modern weld beads
they are pretty similar. not a whole lot has changed other than some alloy and flux makeups. i'd be more curious to get a weld engineer onboard who knows what kind of load welds can take and get his opinion.
I've heard that the welding is like 2x-5x more than actually needed. real belt and suspenders kind of build
He is simply riveting!
What was above the heavy posts on the frames? A 40MM mount, or the catitpults?
The wizard boy under the steps?!? Great!!
What actually was behind the armored box? Was the armor there something that would have protected this from damage such as Bismarck? Lastly, did the North Carolinas and SoDaks have similar armored space there? Fascinating video.
Was talking about gyro stabilization and conservation of angular momentum with my general physics students, mostly juniors and seniors. I started off by asking them what the biggest battleship the US ever made was. There answer was the USS Texas. They also said the Soviets were part of the Axis. God help us.
yeah.. that room under the stairs... there is a similar storage space under the stairs in my cottage. but, perhaps weirder... the house ain't got a proper cellar cause the wife of the guy who built it, way back then, didn't like one. but he wanted one, so there is a cellar under the garage! never seen something like this before but pretty handy to store spares, tools and stuff.
My house is a story-and-a-half, so the two upstairs rooms are both like that, except with the slanted walls at sort of the opposite angle.
I wish Whiskey had as good of a curator as you Ryan here in Norfolk. Do you ever do visiting tours at the other Iowas?
at 13:05 to me it looks more like that longitudinal got welded to the armor before someone else noticed that the drawings called for it to taper at the end.
Does that space count as the torpedo protection? Only as it seems that the sea can be heard just on the other side of the walls...
Great videos! How about talk about fuel storage and sewage tanks.
I would bet money that was a great place to sneak off to for a nap.
17:07
the segway!
lmao!
~5:00, how many bolts do you need to remove to change that lightbulb O.o
Do you have an idea to what the cylinder looking thing, on the overhead beam, at 14:12?
I got a kick out of those cute little stanchions, what are they, inch and a half, 2 inches wide? And you'd have to watch the overhead every inch of the way and maneuver them around all of those pipes... hilarious. When I worked for fleet support I spent a lot of time wrestling 4" wide aluminum stanchions around, how long are the stanchions on an AKE, 9 feet? 10? But most of the overhead is clear and specially designed.
Ryan, is there somewhere a set of floorplans for the ship as built? One that has the levels separate so you can see what's what & what's where?
maritime.org/doc has them
@@BattleshipNewJersey cool 5hanks.
lol it was locked for much more mischievous reasons I am sure. 😂 those sailors are known for finding small hiding spots on the shift away from prying eyes! Haha!
What was the characterization Churchill used for Royal Navy? ;-)
It locked from the OUTSIDE! Dumba$$!
@@adstaton8461 WHEN it was locked.
The Navy missed an opportunity when naming them CHT's. I'd have called it a Special Holding Internment Tank.
Do you have the Richard King book in your giftshop?
The space under stairs or steps is called the "spandrel."
Cool
Was the structural use or armor concept used on the USS North Carolina?
Wait so you're telling me that entire wall was cast? Damn that is incredible.
I haven't done a lot of welding but two things the heat from the welding would deteriorate the strength of the face hardened something about the crystal structure and the direction of the molecule
And you can't really weld a plate that sick on top of another plate that thick without having a plug weld which would be insanely deep I'm sure somebody knows the technical words for all this if you just lay down a weld even if it's an inch or too wide with the ships movements the vibration the torquing on the whole it's just going to come apart I can't even imagine the millions pounds of force in between all those plates and what the rivets absorb to keep it all together
2:18 That made me jump. 😂