FYI and since many will ask: We did not have any audio for the shooting portion because we were shooting in, basically, a concrete box. Reverb would have made the can sound WAY louder than this remarkable little piece of machinery really is. In depth review is coming soon, though, so please be patient. Also shut the hell up because this is an exclusive sneak preview, you filthy ingrate.
@@ahopper42 It's a product announcement. All of the #gunfest2021 videos are product announcements, not reviews. Normally, I would be at SHOT Show walking around the convention center floor, and I wouldn't be able to shoot the gun anyways. (Or we would be shooting it at range day and someone would be shooting a belt fed right next to us.) At least I got to shoot it myself, and we have some b-roll of it functioning, which is better than nothing. Full review coming soon once I can get a copy.
If you really want two thousand, you could have just landed here from Mars and if you put your mind to it you can have that money in no time. I just sold a bunch of stuff I wasn't using on ebay for almost 3k total and that took 7 days for it to be sold and another week to get the money. Its your attitude that has to change. If you want six figures figure out a way how to get there and go after it like your life is depending on it.
Love the Welrod, handled a lot of them. I've played with a VP9 and it's a great modernisation. The non-proprietary magazine is a smart move and I assume they've named it Station 6 after SOE Station VI at Bride Hall or Experimental Station VI (also in Hertfordshire)?
That sounds like a cool connection... can you break it down for me and the other ignoramuses that frequent the TFB TV channel? lol! Seriously, I'd love to know where they came up with the name.
@@TheSonsOfSimon so the Welrod was designed for use by the SOE during WWII and they had a series of 'stations' or departments that did various things like training, weapons development, planning there were about a dozen of them. Bride Hall was known as Station VI and were a weapons depot if I recall correctly so if that's what they're alluding to its a pretty cool link back to the Welrod that inspired the VP9 / Station 6. Going to have a video on some of the originals on my channel in a few months along with Suppressed Stens, Sterlings and Delisle carbines.
@@Niko-xt5bs USUALLY 8 to 9USD per box for brass cased full metal jacket. Maybe a dollar cheaper for steel case. Right now you're lucky to find them for 16USD. I've seen stores pricing 9mm at 45USD Each box contains 50 rounds btw.
“How many rounds till the whipes need to be serviced?” “ThAtS aA LoAadDeD qUeSsTiOn” No like for real what are the decibel drop offs with the whipes (When does it become not hearing safe). Probably the most legit question you can ask about a $2000 product.
My thoughts also. I'm sure there are some variables that keep them from giving exact answers for all cases but some general ideas about performance or performance based on specific circumstances would be nice.
The wipes stay good for 10-30 rds and it gets significantly louder but still quiet enough to use without earpro. The sucky thing is the wipes are regulated and you need a separate stamp(i believe). You can't technically make your own wipes legally.
"Man, that's pretty cool." B&T rep: "So we're looking at around $2,000" "Well, nevermind then." Seems like if a company has an & in their name, get ready to break out the Vaseline lmao
@@dick-parker I don't think the price comes from the actual gun as much as it comes from the Swiss labor cost and the fact that you are also getting two supressors. But yeah, still wouldn't buy it for that price.
@@CertifiedSunset it’s not that expensive to manufacture such a simple design, the price tag sounds like some guy is just pumping these out of his garage or small tool shop fora decent flip
@@dick-parker It's avery simple design, it's jsut a locking bolt pistol with a suppressor. The price is so high only because people think it's a cool gun from WWII.
@@_rc03 It may not be for nothing, but I'll be fucked up the ass with an ice-cream cone if it's worth 2 grand for a single-shot Welrod clone. I mean, who's buying something like this?
When they said $2000 I busted out laughing especially since they just got done talking about people hacking on it. I’m done this videos over before it’s over.
Plus, most of the people interested already have 9mm suppressors. Why not a version with a standard thread pitch and no suppressor? Leave the $2K to the die hard collectors.
@@JamesS.254 The $2000 comes with two suppressors, which works out to $667 for each item in the set. Well within your stated limit. Like they said in the video, there is no point in buying anything in the set by itself.
A suppressor is on average about 800 bucks pre tax stamp and this gun comes with TWO suppressors. You need me to do the math for you? That's one cheap gun...
@@cstrutherskgs Will be hard to remember that when Biden bans 80%s, bans all online sales of parts, mags and ammo, institutes federal ownership permits and registration, etc etc...
@@doejohn8674 somewhat agreed, but its high quality, we got better salaries than US americans and i live only a car hour from B&T, so if there is a problem, the solution is fairly close.
@@Genesis23OPB I am 20min. further out :) B&T has good after sales support. Ijust ordered one of their new RBS suppressors in .30 cal, but 2.5k is still quite steep for a range toy.
Wife is a vet.. We have a practice.. I wonder how flexible our bookkeeper is in the definition of "expense" Jokes aside she could use it though a couple times a year. We're currently are looking at dart guns.
Is that a potential tax deduction in the US? We'll never get them here in Australia, but if we did they would be a definite business expense for vets, hence a tax write off.
Gotta say, I'm actually really bummed they changed the magazine. I get the appeal of using a non-proprietary mag, and generally I'm all for it, but the entire grip coming off for transport was a big part of the appeal and history for me.
Thanks for letting us hear how quiet it is. It's so quiet, I couldn't even hear it over you guys talking the whole video. It should be called a mute gun 🔫
Anybody else have a flashback to Ian from Forgotten Weapons' piece on the Welrod? Thank you Gun Jesus for the knowledge, and thank you gentlemen for resurrecting the idea!
Huge missed opportunity here. Could’ve sold just the gun, threaded 1/2x28 for those of us who already own suppressors, for under $400. Ideally the barrel/upper receiver should be 1.37” in thickness so the average can won’t obscure the sights. But I’m not paying $2000 for this... The 1911 mag idea is neat though.
I thought the ATF had a bee in it's bonnet on replacing wipes seen as modifying/ manufacturing a suppressor. Did that happen or was I having a fever dream.
Suppressors would be good for the economy in some major cities. If people could sleep at night in certain areas of town, maybe they could get up for work and wouldn't have such high unemployment. Who's got time for gangbanging when you got a 9 to 5? I think suppressors could solve inner-city violence or at least do no harm.
Wipes are considered a suppressor component, as such having "spares" is considered illegal. That being said, as of now you can destroy your used wipes, then use a punch tool to make replacement wipes yourself. Check back in tomorrow to see if the ATF changes it's mind again...
B&T operate like H&K. Their main focus is military and government agency contracts, and the civilian market is barely an afterthought for them, which is why over half their catalog is NFA items. They didn't make this pistol for the american market most likely, and didn't give much thought to the legal limitations of the NFA or GCA.
I would really like one of those in 22 LR. 2K is a bit much but not totally outrageous wither considering how devalued our money is. One of those would be a must for a bug out bag.
Considering your average suppressor price is about 800 (pre tax stamp), 2 suppressors AND a gun for 2000 is literally a steal. Basically 2 suppressors and a free gun.
How can two people be named "Dave"? Although, notice the name change to Station 6. There may have been a backroom conversation between HK and B&T and, because B&T work somewhat closely with HK, B&T changed the name. That's my speculation though.
Glad you guys have put this whole thing together. Just need to put out a video like CMMG did with pass the mag now; be a cool sign of gun industry unity in these dark times
I jokingly said to myself at the beginning of the video, “watch b&t try to charge $2,000 for this” and hey whadduh ya know I was right. What a slap across the face to Hop and all the poors.
Needs some kind of thumb actuation for that bolt release. Keep two hands in the shooting position and maintain sight picture, but preserve the manual movement for maximum quiet.
Looks a great product just like the GHM and APC8 . It's yet another product that will never be seen at your local gun store and only on RUclips. They must only be selling their products to content providers before they run out of stock. The real question that should be asked is how many are you shipping out to the stores.
It's a speciality tool, yes they can make it semi auto for the price, that's not what it's designed for tho, it's bolt action so you dont drop the cartridge, it's an assassin tool not a toy
Interesting handgun, I got a feeling that one day B&T will make a semi auto version of it and have an actual barrel length for suppressed and unsuppressed, nice to see manufactures bring back old guns into the modern world unlike one, looking at you HK
What do you mean "have an actual barrel length for suppressed and un suppressed shooting"? I know he didn't state it in the video, but it's clearly about a 3 inch barrel. That's spretty standard length for a handgun, and the gun can already be shot suppressed or un suppressed.. how would it being semi auto make any difference on its ability as a suppressor host?
@@JTheraos I’m not talking about that, and also the barrel length yeah it’s 3” but would like the see a 4.2” or 4.6”. 3” you are on the bleeding edge of 9mm based on terminal ballistics, also instead of cocking it as a blot action rifle in that sense, they could do a semi auto version where if you need the reload or whatever you lock it back and put a new mag in. This is a collectors piece and not a fun day on the range type thing where you are going to put 10,000 rounds through it
@@Chris09978I think a semi auto version kinda defeats the point of a welrod pistol clone. There are already plenty of semi auto handguns. That work suppressed. The whole selling point of this handgun is it not being semi auto.
I can see the 45 being popular since it is naturally subsonic, problem is wipes are not a user serviceable part according to the ATF and will still require owners to sent it into B&T or licensed repair facility to change out the wipes.
YES i need this gun; people I asked about it were the typical i'm too cool for real opinions and just said "why would you want a veterinary pistol that's dumb." And to that I say because sniper elite and badassery. Wellrods are cool.
Didnt Dead Air get in trouble with the ATF with their suppressor that had wipes? I thought the ATF declared the wipes to be parts that cant be replaced by the user.
During WW II there was a .45 ACP with an integral suppressor which was made in very limited numbers. It was based upon the Lee Enfield bolt action and was supposedly one of the quietest firearms ever made.
The DeLisle Carbine, _allegedly_ as low as 85 dB, _but_ that was before modern sound measuring equipment. It is, however, hollywood quiet and would have served it's role well of eliminating sentries or dogs in a combat zone. There's a guy who does a few repros and they're apparently very good, and there was a suppressed Ruger 77/44 (aftermarket mod) that was integrally silenced that i'm sure pulled inspiration from the DeLisle.
When Major Hugh Reeves developed the Welrod, he knew it would cost little to produce. The idea was to drop these pistols to resistance fighters behind German lines. They were crude weapons. Fast-forward to 2021....recreate it and charge $2000 for a pipe and a firing pin? I don't get it. I guess there will be some who will pay for that nostalgia, but I don't think the line will go around the block. When I think of the new guns on the market that I can purchase for $2000, the bolt action pistol holds no attraction. Just MHO.
@@alberto5770 could you actually get a .22lr pistol? Or would it need a footlong "counterweight" to make it non-concelable? Or is that only for centrefire handguns? Jokes aside: come to switzerland, ammo here is probably cheaper than in the US by now and you can get a K31 for under 100 pounds ;)
@@Soff1859 of course NOT!!! Coathanger mandatory in all and any pistol (long barrel pistol/long barrel revolver). Only option is obsolete caliber and black powder revolvers, these can be "accurate" anything else 26" and 13" barrel at least if I recall. Cant afford moving to your paradise without a job man, and would go with joy and my 5 handguns I keep in Spain
@@Soff1859 started as sport shooter, only 1, you upgrade in competitions, sports second class allows 6 and national 10; always kept in a safe at home. In UK I have to apply for anything available and they don't even consider your history, new shooter, start from ground level as probation member in a club and after time apply. Thanks covid still nothing
@@jerrymorales6501 Yup! Want a quiet shot out of a semi auto? Just hold your offhand against the back of the slide to stop it from cycling. Rack again and repeat.
They really need to offer just the pistol. I really want one but I'm not dropping $2400 on a novelty bolt action .45 or 9mm pistol with two dedicated cans. Hell B&T could charge a stupid $1k for the pistol and I'd still buy it, they'd make a hefty profit, and there will be far more sales. Oh and it really needs to be set up for an optic out of the box. Hell even just drill and tap the receiver or barrel, I'm sure there's a bolt action scope base or something you'd see for a Ruger MKwhatever that'd fit
Id imagine for cheaper you can get those slide locked s&w hush puppie remakes. But the vp9 is smaller and more accurate and weridly enough longer lasting.
@@alberto5770 Sure, I guess; if you don't already have ammo... But for those that do... . Government give me money. I give money to B&T. B&T sell me "shush quiet pew". Then I give government money. Then government say "you can haz". Story end.
FYI and since many will ask: We did not have any audio for the shooting portion because we were shooting in, basically, a concrete box. Reverb would have made the can sound WAY louder than this remarkable little piece of machinery really is. In depth review is coming soon, though, so please be patient.
Also shut the hell up because this is an exclusive sneak preview, you filthy ingrate.
What's the point of this video if we can't even hear the thing fire?
@@ahopper42 It's a product announcement. All of the #gunfest2021 videos are product announcements, not reviews. Normally, I would be at SHOT Show walking around the convention center floor, and I wouldn't be able to shoot the gun anyways. (Or we would be shooting it at range day and someone would be shooting a belt fed right next to us.) At least I got to shoot it myself, and we have some b-roll of it functioning, which is better than nothing. Full review coming soon once I can get a copy.
I'm just grateful to see it. Love the content TFBTV!
‘Filthy ingrates’ 😂😂😂
Dude I just thought that's how quiet it was lol
Fun fact:
Wellrod is James' adult movie star name.
LOL
LUL
Alfred J. Wellrod
how do you do madam, it seems that you got stuck behind your couch
@@tfbtv Oh BOIIII 😂😂😂
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You can’t help but love b&t. Just wish they made something for people who don’t make 6 figure salaries
over here in switzerland they are priced very well, i guess you can blame the US taxes for importing them.
If you really want two thousand, you could have just landed here from Mars and if you put your mind to it you can have that money in no time. I just sold a bunch of stuff I wasn't using on ebay for almost 3k total and that took 7 days for it to be sold and another week to get the money. Its your attitude that has to change. If you want six figures figure out a way how to get there and go after it like your life is depending on it.
@@Genesis23OPB I think y’all just live a lot more comfortably
Agreed maybe a company will make better priced clones eventually kinda like Zenith did with H&K
You can afford anything you want, just not everything you want.
Love the Welrod, handled a lot of them. I've played with a VP9 and it's a great modernisation. The non-proprietary magazine is a smart move and I assume they've named it Station 6 after SOE Station VI at Bride Hall or Experimental Station VI (also in Hertfordshire)?
That sounds like a cool connection... can you break it down for me and the other ignoramuses that frequent the TFB TV channel? lol! Seriously, I'd love to know where they came up with the name.
@@TheSonsOfSimon so the Welrod was designed for use by the SOE during WWII and they had a series of 'stations' or departments that did various things like training, weapons development, planning there were about a dozen of them. Bride Hall was known as Station VI and were a weapons depot if I recall correctly so if that's what they're alluding to its a pretty cool link back to the Welrod that inspired the VP9 / Station 6. Going to have a video on some of the originals on my channel in a few months along with Suppressed Stens, Sterlings and Delisle carbines.
@@TheArmourersBench thanks! I love the historic shoutout. I’ll be looking forward to your vids.
maybe, with the engraving on the GHM9 B&T showed they got some strange humor going on
It is a reference to Station SIX. Of course you would know that, TAB.
with the ammo price, bolt action 9mm doesnt sound too bad lol
Seriously lol
I'm curious how much does 9mm ammo costs in America?
@@Niko-xt5bs USUALLY 8 to 9USD per box for brass cased full metal jacket. Maybe a dollar cheaper for steel case. Right now you're lucky to find them for 16USD. I've seen stores pricing 9mm at 45USD
Each box contains 50 rounds btw.
@@samuelalzate8573 where tf are you finding 9m at 32c a round?
@@milkmessiah5192 I live in Oregon, places like BiMart sell 9mm for around 16.00 per box
Yall need to make a video playlist with all the newer intro songs. I really like the one from the P50 video.
Right? TFBtv intro and outro music is always on point
I swear I've heard the P50 song somewhere before too. Like Mass Effect 1 x synthwave.
lo-fi beats to hit the range
Do it you fuckers!
Really appreciate someone that can talk his way through a sales pitch without making enemies but remains to let the consumer see the full picture.
“How many rounds till the whipes need to be serviced?”
“ThAtS aA LoAadDeD qUeSsTiOn”
No like for real what are the decibel drop offs with the whipes (When does it become not hearing safe). Probably the most legit question you can ask about a $2000 product.
My thoughts also. I'm sure there are some variables that keep them from giving exact answers for all cases but some general ideas about performance or performance based on specific circumstances would be nice.
They mentioned after 50 rounds it wasn't much different than the beginning. That said, I would also liked to know some specifics.
The wipes stay good for 10-30 rds and it gets significantly louder but still quiet enough to use without earpro. The sucky thing is the wipes are regulated and you need a separate stamp(i believe). You can't technically make your own wipes legally.
@@cafenightster4548 illegal pieces of rubber
@@iamAwesomo1994 Yup.
"Man, that's pretty cool."
B&T rep: "So we're looking at around $2,000"
"Well, nevermind then."
Seems like if a company has an & in their name, get ready to break out the Vaseline lmao
Smith & Wesson are cheap
So they basically stole a design, improved it just a little bit and they want $2000 for a bolt action 9? They’re smoking meth
@@dick-parker I don't think the price comes from the actual gun as much as it comes from the Swiss labor cost and the fact that you are also getting two supressors. But yeah, still wouldn't buy it for that price.
@@CertifiedSunset it’s not that expensive to manufacture such a simple design, the price tag sounds like some guy is just pumping these out of his garage or small tool shop fora decent flip
@@dick-parker It's avery simple design, it's jsut a locking bolt pistol with a suppressor. The price is so high only because people think it's a cool gun from WWII.
For $2000, I'd expect a fucking VSS Vintorez.
Fair, but they did say it's the pistol in either caliber +2 proprietary cans for it, so, that's not for nothing.
Welcome to B&T
@@_rc03 no I don’t think both are included. You get the wipe based suppressor then have to buy the baffle based suppressor as an extra
And a BJ at least. LOL
@@_rc03 It may not be for nothing, but I'll be fucked up the ass with an ice-cream cone if it's worth 2 grand for a single-shot Welrod clone. I mean, who's buying something like this?
When they said $2000 I busted out laughing especially since they just got done talking about people hacking on it. I’m done this videos over before it’s over.
Same, I might have paid $500-$700, but $2,000 NOPE.
Plus, most of the people interested already have 9mm suppressors. Why not a version with a standard thread pitch and no suppressor? Leave the $2K to the die hard collectors.
@@JamesS.254 The $2000 comes with two suppressors, which works out to $667 for each item in the set. Well within your stated limit. Like they said in the video, there is no point in buying anything in the set by itself.
@@wewd why not buy the firearm by itself?
@@wewd watching the whole video this time. 👍🏻
Rep: Its B&T
James: Which means it'll be expensive
“I’m going to let you talk, before I finish” - a direct quote from James, the most generous lover known to gun channels.
Love the way smoke pours out the chamber, reminds me of the dry ice videos. Love the gun but it's way to expensive for what it is.
A suppressor is on average about 800 bucks pre tax stamp and this gun comes with TWO suppressors. You need me to do the math for you? That's one cheap gun...
Why is the Silencer Shot's logo a pokéball?
Gotta suppress them all, SILENCER SHOP
I think its supposed to represent the baffles, but yeah thats exactly what I first thought too
@@TuckerDale89 haha gotta hush em all!
I was drooling over this fine gun, until I heard the price.
YIKES!
Perfect biden era gun. A bolt action pistol
except that you have registered it via its nfa suppressor
Except too much clip anmo magazine capacity rounds, what was I smelling?? Is it a child shampoo bottle you hidding?
Just remember which administration banned bump stocks and supported red flag laws... Trump’s.
@@cstrutherskgs Will be hard to remember that when Biden bans 80%s, bans all online sales of parts, mags and ammo, institutes federal ownership permits and registration, etc etc...
A bolt action pistol that only the rich can afford
ah yes a new gun to flex as my edc
Wow amazing invention for 1986. James is happy because his shorts where is style
B&T: Releases a new "veterinarian pistol".
Spies: Is it for me?
I can never justify spending that much on B&T guns
im glad im swiss, over here theyre priced well
@@bombomos err umm so you agree with me then !?
@@Genesis23OPB Well? 2500 Swiss francs for the VP9, ouch
@@doejohn8674 somewhat agreed, but its high quality, we got better salaries than US americans and i live only a car hour from B&T, so if there is a problem, the solution is fairly close.
@@Genesis23OPB I am 20min. further out :) B&T has good after sales support. Ijust ordered one of their new RBS suppressors in .30 cal, but 2.5k is still quite steep for a range toy.
Wife is a vet.. We have a practice.. I wonder how flexible our bookkeeper is in the definition of "expense"
Jokes aside she could use it though a couple times a year. We're currently are looking at dart guns.
Is that a potential tax deduction in the US? We'll never get them here in Australia, but if we did they would be a definite business expense for vets, hence a tax write off.
Gotta say, I'm actually really bummed they changed the magazine. I get the appeal of using a non-proprietary mag, and generally I'm all for it, but the entire grip coming off for transport was a big part of the appeal and history for me.
Thanks for letting us hear how quiet it is. It's so quiet, I couldn't even hear it over you guys talking the whole video. It should be called a mute gun 🔫
I know right, probably the reason most of us clicked. Douche bags 🤣🤣🤣
Anybody else have a flashback to Ian from Forgotten Weapons' piece on the Welrod? Thank you Gun Jesus for the knowledge, and thank you gentlemen for resurrecting the idea!
Huge missed opportunity here. Could’ve sold just the gun, threaded 1/2x28 for those of us who already own suppressors, for under $400. Ideally the barrel/upper receiver should be 1.37” in thickness so the average can won’t obscure the sights. But I’m not paying $2000 for this... The 1911 mag idea is neat though.
I thought the ATF had a bee in it's bonnet on replacing wipes seen as modifying/ manufacturing a suppressor. Did that happen or was I having a fever dream.
Suppressors would be good for the economy in some major cities. If people could sleep at night in certain areas of town, maybe they could get up for work and wouldn't have such high unemployment. Who's got time for gangbanging when you got a 9 to 5? I think suppressors could solve inner-city violence or at least do no harm.
You aren't having a fever dream. The ATF does indeed consider wipes a suppressor component.
Wipes are considered a suppressor component, as such having "spares" is considered illegal. That being said, as of now you can destroy your used wipes, then use a punch tool to make replacement wipes yourself. Check back in tomorrow to see if the ATF changes it's mind again...
B&T operate like H&K. Their main focus is military and government agency contracts, and the civilian market is barely an afterthought for them, which is why over half their catalog is NFA items. They didn't make this pistol for the american market most likely, and didn't give much thought to the legal limitations of the NFA or GCA.
@@keegans5695 I know that. I was asking on the ATF requirements for the civilian market. A guy below already answered me.
I would really like one of those in 22 LR. 2K is a bit much but not totally outrageous wither considering how devalued our money is. One of those would be a must for a bug out bag.
Considering your average suppressor price is about 800 (pre tax stamp), 2 suppressors AND a gun for 2000 is literally a steal. Basically 2 suppressors and a free gun.
I like the beginning of Runnin' with the Devil at the start of the outro
In Europe: *called vet pistol, used by vets to put down dogs*
In US: *called ATF pistol, used by ATF to put down dogs*
"Is B&T"
"That means it would be very expensive" 😄
Ya it cool but for the price they could've made it spring closed assisted and a straight pull.
I just ordered one in 9mm and another in the 45 because I couldn't decide and thanks for turning me on to these amazing firearms!
"Just unscrew it and replace the baffles". Did the ATF change its mind on considering wipes suppressor parts?
I have the same question. It might actually be worth it if it has user replaceable wipes
Isn’t the VP9 a pistol from Heckler & Koch? how can these guns have the same Name?
How can two people be named "Dave"? Although, notice the name change to Station 6. There may have been a backroom conversation between HK and B&T and, because B&T work somewhat closely with HK, B&T changed the name. That's my speculation though.
Would be fun in my country. No laws on suppressors. I'd like one in 45!
Glad you guys have put this whole thing together. Just need to put out a video like CMMG did with pass the mag now; be a cool sign of gun industry unity in these dark times
.45ACP is a subsonic round by specification for those that aren’t aware.
2K for a bolt action pistol that is also an NFA item, man!
I jokingly said to myself at the beginning of the video, “watch b&t try to charge $2,000 for this” and hey whadduh ya know I was right. What a slap across the face to Hop and all the poors.
I just got a VP9 and am super pumped! The Station Six looks pretty good too.
willing to sell?
@@chylltoneche8849 I am not
For that money, I can get the b&t apc 10mm
Needs some kind of thumb actuation for that bolt release. Keep two hands in the shooting position and maintain sight picture, but preserve the manual movement for maximum quiet.
We needs it
Cool. John Locke of lost now works for B&t. This is so cool!!!
Me exptecting that they would price it reasonably at around $500-$600
B&T: That's gonna be $2,000 and your soul please.
If they're going to re-make the welrod in one way or another then I hope they consider re-doing the sleeve gun if it is allowed
Looks a great product just like the GHM and APC8 . It's yet another product that will never be seen at your local gun store and only on RUclips. They must only be selling their products to content providers before they run out of stock. The real question that should be asked is how many are you shipping out to the stores.
I am falling I love with b&t
January 19th is National Gun Appreciation Day (since 2013) .
I have come to this conclusion after watching this video...
I want one!
It's a speciality tool, yes they can make it semi auto for the price, that's not what it's designed for tho, it's bolt action so you dont drop the cartridge, it's an assassin tool not a toy
When you reach 1M subs, perhaps get a couple more lav mics to celebrate. 🙂. Pretty tough to hear 2 of the 3 guests.
"You d lied to my face for 17 years..." bwahahahs! Welcome to the gun industry.
Interesting handgun, I got a feeling that one day B&T will make a semi auto version of it and have an actual barrel length for suppressed and unsuppressed, nice to see manufactures bring back old guns into the modern world unlike one, looking at you HK
What do you mean "have an actual barrel length for suppressed and un suppressed shooting"? I know he didn't state it in the video, but it's clearly about a 3 inch barrel. That's spretty standard length for a handgun, and the gun can already be shot suppressed or un suppressed.. how would it being semi auto make any difference on its ability as a suppressor host?
@@JTheraos I’m not talking about that, and also the barrel length yeah it’s 3” but would like the see a 4.2” or 4.6”. 3” you are on the bleeding edge of 9mm based on terminal ballistics, also instead of cocking it as a blot action rifle in that sense, they could do a semi auto version where if you need the reload or whatever you lock it back and put a new mag in. This is a collectors piece and not a fun day on the range type thing where you are going to put 10,000 rounds through it
@@Chris09978I think a semi auto version kinda defeats the point of a welrod pistol clone. There are already plenty of semi auto handguns. That work suppressed. The whole selling point of this handgun is it not being semi auto.
I thought the wipes were considered part of the suppressor and NOT user replaceable.
I can see the 45 being popular since it is naturally subsonic, problem is wipes are not a user serviceable part according to the ATF and will still require owners to sent it into B&T or licensed repair facility to change out the wipes.
YES i need this gun; people I asked about it were the typical i'm too cool for real opinions and just said "why would you want a veterinary pistol that's dumb." And to that I say because sniper elite and badassery. Wellrods are cool.
Didnt Dead Air get in trouble with the ATF with their suppressor that had wipes? I thought the ATF declared the wipes to be parts that cant be replaced by the user.
During WW II there was a .45 ACP with an integral suppressor which was made in very limited numbers. It was based upon the Lee Enfield bolt action and was supposedly one of the quietest firearms ever made.
The DeLisle Carbine, _allegedly_ as low as 85 dB, _but_ that was before modern sound measuring equipment. It is, however, hollywood quiet and would have served it's role well of eliminating sentries or dogs in a combat zone. There's a guy who does a few repros and they're apparently very good, and there was a suppressed Ruger 77/44 (aftermarket mod) that was integrally silenced that i'm sure pulled inspiration from the DeLisle.
A quiet gun is great but body disposal is always the most important part!
MOH Rising Sun bois
When Major Hugh Reeves developed the Welrod, he knew it would cost little to produce. The idea was to drop these pistols to resistance fighters behind German lines. They were crude weapons. Fast-forward to 2021....recreate it and charge $2000 for a pipe and a firing pin? I don't get it. I guess there will be some who will pay for that nostalgia, but I don't think the line will go around the block. When I think of the new guns on the market that I can purchase for $2000, the bolt action pistol holds no attraction. Just MHO.
Can't wait to pair this will a drum mag....lot of sick pets
Just what my collection is missing: A single shot gun with no practical purpose that I can't afford to buy, feed or maintain
Want to move to UK and pay 1200 £ for a 22lr??? And don't even think about borrowing as they are restricted ONLY to the licensed owner.
@@alberto5770 could you actually get a .22lr pistol? Or would it need a footlong "counterweight" to make it non-concelable? Or is that only for centrefire handguns?
Jokes aside: come to switzerland, ammo here is probably cheaper than in the US by now and you can get a K31 for under 100 pounds ;)
@@Soff1859 of course NOT!!! Coathanger mandatory in all and any pistol (long barrel pistol/long barrel revolver).
Only option is obsolete caliber and black powder revolvers, these can be "accurate" anything else 26" and 13" barrel at least if I recall.
Cant afford moving to your paradise without a job man, and would go with joy and my 5 handguns I keep in Spain
@@alberto5770 seems at least spanish gun laws are more reasonable then. If you can have 5 handguns while living abroad even.
@@Soff1859 started as sport shooter, only 1, you upgrade in competitions, sports second class allows 6 and national 10; always kept in a safe at home. In UK I have to apply for anything available and they don't even consider your history, new shooter, start from ground level as probation member in a club and after time apply. Thanks covid still nothing
Why 2k$ tho?
Government sales.
You had me until $2000. I’d pay $1000. Id also happily pay $800 for the gun without the can if I could use my own cans. As it stands, no thanks b&t
Here we are in July 2022 and nary a Station Six in sight
Names Bond, James Bond...*007 James Bond sound track starts playing*
Need...
Modern day British Welrod, Love it !!
2 grand for a 100 dollar pipe gun? The psychosis is strong with those guys.
I was thinking right around the same...
@@jerrymorales6501 Yup! Want a quiet shot out of a semi auto? Just hold your offhand against the back of the slide to stop it from cycling. Rack again and repeat.
Swiss stuff ain’t for the poor!
@@Iamtherealjerkfreak It has nothing to do with Switzerland, it's made by B&T USA = Tampa Florida.
sgthl still designed in Switzerland and I guess the tooling is Swiss to, the Labour is probably Swiss too...!
who we assasinating boys ?
Hello there my FBI agent
Boredom, mostly
So $2500+? because you need a $250 tax stamp for each suppressor that comes with it? B&T is off their fucking rocker.
I can't imagine this gun for home defense
Ever wanted to take out a burglar without waking your neighbours? This guns for you!
(Only $2000)
No masks, love it. Keep up the good work guys
5:35, wup, I guess I'll be sticking with my TC Contender 45 ACP.
B&T might be the only euro gun company whose name i love to say, it just rolls right off of the tongue..
God damn bacon and tomato and their expensive guns
Please... please do a comparison between b&t suppressors and surefire suppressors!!!!
Definitely my go to conceal carry.
I got an HK VP9. So I guess I win right?
Make your own wipes.
Tennis balls work the best.
Self-sealing rubber.
Good for hundreds of shots.
Cut to inner can diameter,
insert with a ramrod.
Didn't the ATF state you can no longer buy wipes and install them yourself? Maybe I'm wrong but thought I read that somewhere 😧
They really need to offer just the pistol. I really want one but I'm not dropping $2400 on a novelty bolt action .45 or 9mm pistol with two dedicated cans. Hell B&T could charge a stupid $1k for the pistol and I'd still buy it, they'd make a hefty profit, and there will be far more sales.
Oh and it really needs to be set up for an optic out of the box. Hell even just drill and tap the receiver or barrel, I'm sure there's a bolt action scope base or something you'd see for a Ruger MKwhatever that'd fit
I REALLY think it didn't have to use that particular type of locking mech. They couldn't make it straight pull? IDK man...
A bolt action, suppressed pistol might actually be marketable in the UK... *Forgotten Weapons* has a good video on the Wellrod.
B&T: "how much are stimulus checks again? $2000?"
Is their any plan for double stack magazine and place for red dot and light & laser module?
Id imagine for cheaper you can get those slide locked s&w hush puppie remakes. But the vp9 is smaller and more accurate and weridly enough longer lasting.
In my experience you cant. I've been looking for the hush puppy project M&P since they came out and I cant find them anywhere.
@@aubrey_d ive been thing of just improvising a slide system on a m9. Granted youd need a milling machine and alot of shit.
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SHUT UP AND TAKE MY STIMULUS CHECK MONEY !!!!!
You sir are hilarious! And 100% right
Nah you will spend it on a brick or 22lr IF able to find one
@@alberto5770
Sure, I guess; if you don't already have ammo... But for those that do...
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Government give me money.
I give money to B&T.
B&T sell me "shush quiet pew".
Then I give government money.
Then government say "you can haz".
Story end.
@@steven-k.
Yeah... but Beijing Biden "said" he's going to approve an additional $2,000, so we'll see.
Holy shoot lol ...
That's a badass pistol. I would love to hear how quiet it is
I want one, I do not need one, but life is not about needs, it is about wants!!!!
Sounds like a lawsuit from Heckler&Koch for using the VP9 name should be forthcoming.
What makes the firearm Proprietary, and unavailable as being sold as just the Pistol?
What would really be cool would be a Welrod style top end for a 1911 frame.
I could see a plain 6 inch or so barreled version, no silencer, scope capable. Close range small game hunting and such.
I was actually going to buy this thing. I thought 12-1400. 2k ouch!
More interested in the Station 6 than I thought I would be.
$2,700 now. I'd still prefer a .32 ACP since it's such a tiny round and with a over-sized can it's just comically quiet.