The DARKEST Villain of Doom | Dr. Malcolm Betruger | FULL Doom Lore EXPLAINED

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  • @Skyrionn
    @Skyrionn  Год назад +106

    Who is the best Doom villain?
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    • @fun-epersonnproductions4002
      @fun-epersonnproductions4002 Год назад +10

      Can't wait for Olivia Pierce and Khan Makyr.

    • @xdman4890
      @xdman4890 Год назад +13

      The rabbit

    • @TpoJioJio47
      @TpoJioJio47 Год назад +1

      it's nameless civilisation's man or woman, who stealed the Heart of Hell and had let all of this happen. Demons must had been forced to retrieve their world's heart, but they failed because of Soulcube creation. But then they finally got the Heart of Hell. The Soulcube was lost in process.

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 Год назад +3

      Samuel Hayden the Seraphim is the best imo just above Davoth. I love these two, their personnality, their motoves and their complicated relashionship to the Slayer. 😎

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 Год назад +7

      The biggest Doom (3) villain?
      To me its not even Betruger. Its Doom 3's historically bad optimisation compared to Half-Life 2.

  • @artemonstrick
    @artemonstrick Год назад +650

    A guy experiments with literal hell and his name translation from german is literally TRAITOR.
    Everyone else in the corporation: proceed with everything you do, good sir.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee Год назад +53

      My boy gets results. Give him what he needs

    • @mr.commonsense
      @mr.commonsense Год назад

      The Germans have experience in their name, let them give us another word war

    • @littleman2226
      @littleman2226 Год назад +57

      It doesn't mean traitor. A more fitting transaltion would be fraud or trickster.

    • @sebicmiel4221
      @sebicmiel4221 Год назад +13

      @@littleman2226 what about "Con-Man"?

    • @GlupShito
      @GlupShito Год назад +43

      Betrüger means somthing like con-man, cheater or deceiver rather then traitor. Verräter mean Traitor

  • @evgeniy6678
    @evgeniy6678 Год назад +395

    Doom 3's lore have one of the most dark, mysterious and atmospheric vibe in the entire series. I'm glad you haven't forgotten about this now underrated part of the franchise, keep it up!

    • @1oneguythat
      @1oneguythat Год назад +1

      If you say soo..

    • @thetest8777
      @thetest8777 Год назад +13

      It was never underrated it was under appreciate 💯
      Not me I loved the game because it did and had some realistic aspects

    • @ComradeStrogg
      @ComradeStrogg Год назад +19

      @@thetest8777 new Doom "fans" that only played rebooted Dooms tend to make fun of Doom 3 without even realizing how much noise it made back in the day. Even today it has 90+% positive reviews on various game rating platforms.

    • @evgeniy6678
      @evgeniy6678 Год назад +2

      @@ComradeStrogg Yeah, that's what I'm talking about

    • @link670
      @link670 Год назад +4

      Honestly wish modern Id was willing to take a chance with another more horror focused Doom (or even just a new IP) again.

  • @Kyosukedono
    @Kyosukedono Год назад +152

    Saying that Doom 3 is not a Doom game is like saying Mario Galaxy is not a Mario game.
    It is a nice change of pace for the series and is a well made spooky game. A missed opportunity though to add Crash into the DLC, instead of another random nameless Marine.

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers Год назад +4

      Wow, that's actually a spot on comparison

    • @aliciagrayson4203
      @aliciagrayson4203 Год назад +21

      Now I'm just picturing Crash Bandicoot running around spinning at Imps and screaming, "Whow!"

    • @Kyosukedono
      @Kyosukedono Год назад +7

      @@aliciagrayson4203 Lay off the fentanyl and you might stop picturing that.

    • @Bigsmoke-rw8kj
      @Bigsmoke-rw8kj Год назад

      @@Kyosukedonowtf is wrong with you lay off the pills and maybe you wouldn’t be so angry

    • @Guiscardr
      @Guiscardr Год назад +15

      Doom 3 is Doom filtered through Half-Life, not Resident Evil. It’s a weird thing to say it’s not a Doom game - it is, in world and story. It just slows the gameplay down to something more methodical like Half-Life.
      That said, an actual survival horror in Mars City a’la Resident Evil would be fantastic.

  • @TrepidDestiny
    @TrepidDestiny Год назад +105

    I honestly remember DOOM 3 more fondly than DOOM 2016.
    2016 had a sound track that absolutely slapped, but the atmosphere that DOOM 3 brought made it feel like a game about fighting hell more than the others did.

    • @rav3style
      @rav3style Год назад +12

      To be fair it tried something new and it was legit interesting

    • @doomkrieg3817
      @doomkrieg3817 11 месяцев назад +6

      I can’t agree enough with this. DOOM 2016 was a way to introduce a new fan base to the franchise while DOOM 3 was a wonderful gift to the franchise which touched upon the horror aspect that inspired DOOM in the first place. I go back to this game the most next to 1 & 2.

    • @hunlepto2239
      @hunlepto2239 9 месяцев назад +3

      The important part of Doom 3 in my opinion is that it touched upon alot more on man-made horror and it was one of the few things I noticed about Doom 2016. Doom 2016 literally leans too much on demon gore and violence and doesn't touch enough upon the suffering and massacre that was done on humans. You literally hear tons of screams in Doom 3, human bodies strapped on the hell sections, etc., yet in Doom 2016, it's almost only just demons.

    • @signout932
      @signout932 Месяц назад

      like 2016 feels outclassed at what it tries by Doom Eternal honestly
      But Doom 3 is different enough for me to feel worth playing

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 Год назад +221

    I still remember my shock by seeing Betruger's head cone out from the Madelic's mouth. Was so cool and creepy. I'm glad we get to take both out in Resurrection of Evil.

    • @lucascoval828
      @lucascoval828 Год назад +1

      It was nasty.
      🤢🤢🤢

    • @donaldduckdumb
      @donaldduckdumb Год назад +5

      I laughed uncontrollably when I saw that. Why would he want that to happen?

    • @mattmedrala1947
      @mattmedrala1947 Год назад +11

      ​@@donaldduckdumbI always saw it as a punishment for his failure in the main game, considering he's screaming in pain as though he's being consumed. It's likely that the human part is dead by Resurrection of Evil and it is the demon itself that speaks using his head as its voice.

    • @donaldduckdumb
      @donaldduckdumb Год назад

      @@mattmedrala1947 He seemed fine with it.

    • @AndalusianPrince
      @AndalusianPrince Год назад +4

      ​@@mattmedrala1947 when you're descending down the caverns in the very last level of Doom 3, you hear this very gruesome voice say "so you've made it this far...." in a voice other than that of Betruger...

  • @mcmelonmaster
    @mcmelonmaster Год назад +65

    Doom 3 has the best story out of all the Doom games. Truly underrated gem. I wish they would make a proper sequel set in the Doom 3 universe.

  • @Cjgkslsmvtkoesnxbs
    @Cjgkslsmvtkoesnxbs Год назад +85

    Doom 3’s flashlight mechanic is severely underrated. It really tied the game up as a horror game. I loved every second playing through this game. So much fun.

    • @Will-dn9dq
      @Will-dn9dq Год назад +1

      Dude your the guy who liked it huh! 😂 freaking hated it😂

    • @Eluderatnight
      @Eluderatnight Год назад +5

      ​@@Will-dn9dqThe pacing is slow for sure, but I liked it.

    • @Will-dn9dq
      @Will-dn9dq Год назад

      @@Eluderatnight it was a good game but that one issue made it hit or miss on how long pll played. Remember I fun fact from the time. The coding used for just one the door displays that were interactive w passes. Used the roughly same amount or storage bits an bytes as the entire original doom game combined. Appreciate that alone.

    • @Coresixth
      @Coresixth 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Will-dn9dq well i liked it, every single bits of it

    • @NovaCaine2489
      @NovaCaine2489 11 месяцев назад +1

      Its cause it was essentially just a showcase for (at the time) bleeding edge lighting technology so they designed the entire game around the lighting which nade it more horror action rather than doom-y quick shooter

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla Год назад +59

    Dr. Betruger is definitely not only my favorite Doom villain but my favorite video game villain. He’s basically demonic Emperor Palpatine. He doesn’t have some sympathetic backstory or any complex motivation, he’s just evil and revels in being evil. And he’s enough of a threat and has enough of a presence to still be intimidating as much as he’s entertaining.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Год назад +2

      I guess, but the thing is he is not _interesting._ He has no charisma, he doesn’t make sense. He sticks out like a sore thumb in the super gritty, grounded Doom 3.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Год назад +11

      @@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Doom 3 isn't super gritty, though, it's an old school B horror movie. It's that magical middle ground where the creators aren't taking it too seriously but the in-universe characters are. So Dr. Betruger being an over the top Paplaptine-esque ham is awesome. And his lack of any sympathetic backstory or motivation is also part of that same charm. He's just evil because he wants to be.

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 11 месяцев назад +1

      its all a matter of taste, but seriously? your favorite video game villain? dude is a cartoon character, with the depth of a puddle. he isnt even unique! being just another generic evil scientist who does evil and gets turned into a monster in the end.
      dude doesnt even have a satisfying death.
      like i said, its a preference thing, but i cant help but wholeheartly disagree.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@marcosdheleno That’s what makes him a fun character, the fact that he’s just evil with nothing else.

  • @mattmedrala1947
    @mattmedrala1947 Год назад +246

    The weird thing about the main villains of Doom 3 and 4 is that they should have been swapped. Betruger's cartoonish propensity for maniacal laughter and grandiose taunts fit the campy nature of the Doomslayer games, while Olivia Pierce's reserved demeanor and tragic nature as a manipulated pawn would gave fit 3's serious horror focus.

    • @anibalgonzalez7990
      @anibalgonzalez7990 Год назад +14

      Nice take.

    • @Odinfang
      @Odinfang Год назад +47

      I actually agree. Betruger becoming the maledict as the final boss against the doomslayer would have been awesome and a better enemy to dish out with doomslayer’s arsenal. Olivia becoming the spider mastermind in doom 3 would have been right up in scale in the Maledict’s place.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +30

      Doom 2016 is, in many ways, a retelling of Doom 3. Evil scientist, preventing some facility from blowing up, being sucked int oa Hell portal, looking for an artifact weapon in Hell, fighting a reimagined Classic Doom boss, etc. etc. Many of the plot points are the same.

    • @elijahnajera5425
      @elijahnajera5425 Год назад +10

      ​​​​@@AlexeiVoroninThey main difference is the overall tone of the story which really shows how much of an impact it can have.

    • @Damin-Danger-Ledford
      @Damin-Danger-Ledford 11 месяцев назад +3

      That's very true. It's because of this idea I thought Sam Hayden was gonna be the main antagonist

  • @MS-jp3op
    @MS-jp3op Год назад +60

    The Rip and Tear was still there, you just had to be a beast about it and it came suddenly. Even thought it was slower paced you still had to tear the room apart pretty regularly. A thing I always say when people talk about how dark the game was is "the plasma gun lit up the room just fine".

    • @Tommybotham
      @Tommybotham Год назад +13

      I don't think so. Doom 3 and even RoE were survival horrors. Game was dark as shit so I know you weren't running everywhere.
      Doom 3: The Lost Mission though? That was rip n tear.

    • @ChadwickThompson-i8s
      @ChadwickThompson-i8s Год назад +2

      Laughs in shoulder flashlight

    • @AshleyGrahamcracker-oq3pf
      @AshleyGrahamcracker-oq3pf 9 месяцев назад +2

      Such self claimed baddies who are too cool for doom 3 shouldn’t even be afraid of the dark lol

    • @radicalmarxist9909
      @radicalmarxist9909 3 месяца назад

      Rip and tear is lame I don’t like how the newer games made Doom guy a superhero.

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 Год назад +484

    Doom3 is one of games that need remaster and it doesn't need much work, just some optimization for modern systems and remake of character models as map design, lighting and story is one of best you can get. Just like Return to Castle Wolfenstain and STALKER, Doom3 is game that you can play every year and still get lots of fun as those games have amazing atmosphere and characters like Dr Betruger

    • @JoJoZaka
      @JoJoZaka Год назад +34

      everything you listed is a lot of work lmao

    • @ОсликИа-я2ы
      @ОсликИа-я2ы Год назад +16

      Lolwut? D3 is considered the worst Doom out there.
      Only those who don't like true dynamic of Doom gameplay can "play every year and still get lots of fun".

    • @JoJoZaka
      @JoJoZaka Год назад +1

      ​@@ОсликИа-я2ыyou might just be autistic if you can't enjoy something over a name

    • @paranoiia8
      @paranoiia8 Год назад +16

      @@JoJoZaka not really, lots of modders already fix lots of models over past years, improve textures add features(eg famous flashlight mod) etc, it's easy as it's id tech 4 engine.
      Only real problem is optimization for new windows system/graphic drivers as it's kinda annoying to run it properly on higher resolution. For that you need source code so it's out of modders reach and need to be made by devs

    • @paranoiia8
      @paranoiia8 Год назад +72

      @@ОсликИа-я2ы consider worst by you and few people that are just loud and do lost of noise over stupid things like making fun of square heads of nps(really big deal... Wow) . Doom 3 is one of better fps from that era. Juts because it's not constant shooting on big maps doesn't mean it's bad doom. It's good action horror and it's showed that even simple if original source material was simple brainless shooter it can be made to good story.

  • @pRopaaNS
    @pRopaaNS Год назад +44

    You forgot to mention Betruger's geat sense of humor. His oneliners and laughs carries the Doom 3 playthrough!

    • @jonalbertlafuente9805
      @jonalbertlafuente9805 Год назад +13

      "Making Progress Marine" Love this line XD

    • @pRopaaNS
      @pRopaaNS Год назад +5

      @@jonalbertlafuente9805 Hahahahahahaha!!! Love his enthusiasm!

    • @DonCurrywurst
      @DonCurrywurst Год назад

      And dont forget the forget his name is german and basicly translates to deceiver

  • @zachary7573
    @zachary7573 Год назад +69

    They should have used this storyline for the Doom movie. It would’ve been way cooler than the ridiculous bio engineered demons we got instead.

    • @JeriDro
      @JeriDro 6 месяцев назад +2

      They were catching flak from the Christian community so they bended to their will and changed it. I remember them saying that when the movie came out. Regardless that movie is awesome, F the haters

    • @CZpersi
      @CZpersi 4 месяца назад +3

      @@JeriDro I never understood this Christian hate against Doom. I mean, you are playing as a good guy, who shoots demons from hell with big ass guns! What is there not to like, if you are evangelical "Jesus'n Guns" Christian?

    • @AliceRedFox96
      @AliceRedFox96 4 месяца назад

      There's already a pretty similar movie, about teleportation and the connection to hell, right down to some of the visual effects - Event Horizon 1997

    • @shadewolf0075
      @shadewolf0075 4 месяца назад +1

      @@CZpersi to be honest I think it’s just that they didn’t want kids to be exposed to stuff like pentagrams and some also blame doom for the Columbine high school shooting because the two monsters who did that loved playing the game

    • @dogman3362
      @dogman3362 4 месяца назад

      @@JeriDro *sighs
      I swear, religious nuts are the fun police of this world.

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default Год назад +27

    I wish we saw more remnants of what Betruger was like prior to the whole demon pact. It would have been cool to pick up a PDA with emails from him that clearly show him acting differently before and after he went nuts.

  • @Diazepamo
    @Diazepamo Год назад +60

    DOOM³ is one of my favourite games, I didn't like it that much when it was released because it was much different than I expected, but I grew really fond of it and now I play through it once a year. Mostly in the christmas holidays.

    • @Zvasra
      @Zvasra Год назад +11

      Wait a second… doom 3 (stylized as doom cubed lol)… Doom cubed…. SOUL CUBE!?

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries Год назад +3

      The main reason I didnt like it when it released was because I couldnt see anything lol A few years later when I discovered a mod that put a flashlight onto every weapon, I started actually playing Doom3. And began liking it more and more after that.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +1

      My story is very similar. Having grown up with the Classic Dooms, I was skeptical of Doom 3 at first... but the game really grew on me later on. It earned my respect and today I consider it a misunderstood masterpiece.

  • @TK199999
    @TK199999 Год назад +18

    There is a fan theory that the ancient Martians in Doom 3 were possibly an offworld branch of the Sentinels from Doom 2016, aka the Bethian tribe of Hebeth or another tribe like them. That among the worlds the Sentinels colonized in the early days included the universe of Doom 3 Mars, since their slipstream tech seems similar to teleportation. So based on teleportation allowing travel between dimensions in the Doom games, the ancient Martians of Doom 3 were from Argent D'Nur. It would even make sense that Doomguy used the Soul Cube when he was still a Sentinel. But he didn't die, but was trapped in Hell. But the Agrent D'Nur Martian survivors didn't know this so they created a tomb to honor him, even if it was empty before they escape to Doom 3 Earth and possibly other planets, dimensions or back to Argent D'Nur.

  • @ldawg7117
    @ldawg7117 Год назад +10

    Minor error, but you said they became our decadents, when I'm pretty sure you meant to say ancestors or that WE became their decedents. Loved the video! Cant get enough of this channel

  • @spookzie4208
    @spookzie4208 Год назад +32

    Picked this up when it came out and loved it. The story was pretty interestering, i liked the emails and datapads the told mini stories about the personell living at the station.
    Actually got quite a bit of replayability out of it, the co-op being one of the main reasons. Wasnt too big on the multiplayer though.
    When the scientist comes flailing out of the portal with the hellknight following close was such a cool scene.

  • @3M0710N
    @3M0710N Год назад +17

    Doom 3 was amazing. I rember finding a Coop mod back in the day that let you play it with up to 3 other people. Was so ground breaking at the time.

  • @jasperfox6821
    @jasperfox6821 Год назад +15

    I loved Doom 3, and Resurrection of Evil, it's great to see it getting some love, and i always wondered if you would cover it's lore.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  Год назад +7

      I loved Resurrection of Evil so much. I may cover some more Doom 3 stuff! Thanks for watching

    • @ChadwickThompson-i8s
      @ChadwickThompson-i8s Год назад +1

      ​@@SkyrionnHonestly more Demon/Hell and UAC stuff would be amazing. Love ya work

    • @Leviathan_013
      @Leviathan_013 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@SkyrionnROE And Lost Mission I Hope

    • @JH24821
      @JH24821 Месяц назад

      Resurrection of Evil was lots of fun. Slightly less focused on horror and more on action. The abilities of the artifact were a fun mechanic and the new demons were nice additions, especially those fast imps that throw green fireballs and arrived in green flames instead of the orange ones; it always made me wonder if they came from a different part of hell.

  • @Odinfang
    @Odinfang Год назад +12

    I enjoy doom 3 alongside the other doom games. Turning ripping and tearing to survival horror and a different, human protagonist instead of doom guy, really made you feel the weight and atmosphere dealing with hell. It’s a lot more serious and terrifying. However, when you mentioned the game is more like resident evil, I do somewhat agree with you on the more survival horror aspect of Doom 3 being similar, but this game feels like if the movie “Event Horizon” was made into a game and the story had actual demons instead of tormented souls hallucinating.

  • @idemditto
    @idemditto Год назад +4

    Wow it's cool to see a summary of Doom like this. The incredibly fun shooting of Doom 1 + 2 translated into Doom 3 as a story. You made this very beautiful.

  • @volterite9605
    @volterite9605 Год назад +32

    Also he probably has the best demon design out of the doom franchise
    Don't know why they seemingly didn't reuse the Maledict demon design in any other game

    • @harbinger7115
      @harbinger7115 11 месяцев назад +6

      Most demon designs in doom 3 look waaay too good, i still prefer the d3 hell-knight over the 2016/eternal one

    • @dogman3362
      @dogman3362 4 месяца назад

      I really want to import his mesh into Skyrim, to replace the dragons

  • @fuster7605
    @fuster7605 Год назад +35

    I had not realised how similar the doom 2 universe and the half-life universes were

  • @dareonicraft
    @dareonicraft Год назад +7

    4:04 It would be "became our ancestors". Great content as always!

  • @Disconnect350
    @Disconnect350 Год назад +8

    Betruger was like Hannibal Lecter in space. Doom 3 is an atmospheric horror masterclass.

  • @K1ngSlayer95
    @K1ngSlayer95 10 месяцев назад +2

    His laugh that you hear throughout the game, you know what I mean. Still haunts my dreams.

  • @benmosley3190
    @benmosley3190 Год назад +5

    I love Doom 3. I know it wasn't like the other games but I loved the creepy atmosphere and the slow pace of it, it felt like a horror movie. It's easily one of my favorite all time games.

  • @paragonrobbie9270
    @paragonrobbie9270 Год назад +3

    McCormick: "...what have we done? This isn't just another dimension, Malcolm, it's a gateway to Hell itself!"
    Betruger: *"Neat."*

  • @adisava
    @adisava Год назад +3

    Holy shit I never thought Doom 3 would have such interesting lore. This adds so much to the atmosphere and how I think of the game. I might end up playing these again, just because of this video. Thank you.

  • @auronx
    @auronx Год назад +2

    Thank you for the video Skyrionn - superb quality as always

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  Год назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @sharpisharp
    @sharpisharp Год назад +26

    Interesting for you english speaking people: Betruger is from the german word "Betrüger" with means "impostor"

    • @yourfatboy5359
      @yourfatboy5359 Год назад +9

      I thought it meant betrayer

    • @sharpisharp
      @sharpisharp Год назад +5

      @@yourfatboy5359 yes, this ist also correct and hits IT even better

    • @yourfatboy5359
      @yourfatboy5359 Год назад +1

      @@sharpisharp true

    • @SpaceMarine500
      @SpaceMarine500 Год назад +9

      Makes sense since he lived among us......

    • @sharpisharp
      @sharpisharp Год назад +1

      @@SpaceMarine500 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jonalbertlafuente9805
    @jonalbertlafuente9805 Год назад +2

    thanks for tackling Doom 3's lore. Been waiting for this :D

  • @bergeracvandamme
    @bergeracvandamme Год назад +3

    So Betruger was so concerned with a lack of ethics of his employer that he made a pact with demons, killed his entire colony, then went to live in hell. He seems a bit confused lol.

  • @diegoaespitia
    @diegoaespitia Год назад +7

    honestly, i think DOOM 3 is better than the new DOOM. it was spooky af. new DOOM got boring quick. just non stop enemies in a room, clear the room, move on to other room with a butt ton of enemies. do that until end of game

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  Год назад +3

      Doom 3 absolutely had its strong points. I do prefer the more recent ones though.

  • @10lbsbiscuit83
    @10lbsbiscuit83 Год назад +9

    DOOM 3 holds more significance in my mind as a horror staple than any other DOOM game

  • @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA
    @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA Год назад +11

    This really puts Doom 3 in a new light, while everyone just ignores Doom 3, Doom 3 actually becomes pretty scary once you think of the story through the scientist's POV

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад

      It actually isn't as ignored as you may think - it still has its fans and modders nowadays ;)

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 11 месяцев назад

      doom 3 is not hated. its just divisive. which is diferent.

    • @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA
      @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA 11 месяцев назад

      @@marcosdheleno I never said it was hated

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 11 месяцев назад

      @@IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA no joke, i was certain that i read "hated" in your comment, i probably ended up responding to the wrong comment or something.
      sorry about that.

    • @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA
      @IrishSturmtruppenGodBlessUSA 11 месяцев назад

      @@marcosdheleno Nah its fine mate if it makes you feel any better my memory is genuinely so bad I forget things that happened like 2 minutes ago

  • @JohnDoe-rj8nd
    @JohnDoe-rj8nd 11 месяцев назад +3

    Criminally underrated game. I remember when I played it as a kid the first pinky demon that ran towards the player scared the crap out of me so bad I jumped backwards so hard the chair I was sitting in snapped off the wheel base.

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 11 месяцев назад

      how the hell is doom 3 underrated? it sold amazing, and it has millions of fans. its just not universaly loved. people have to understand the diference between something being underrated, and something being divisive.
      many people loved the game, but, as many people hated alot of its designs.

  • @sempthegreat
    @sempthegreat Год назад +4

    Doom 3 > Doom 2016 and eternal tbh.
    The design of Doom 3 is simply timeless.

    • @Wiktorino1984
      @Wiktorino1984 4 месяца назад

      No bro its not, design of marine in RoE is just ugly. Moveset of fight is low in that times you got painkiller the real classic doomstyle game. Doom 2016 is a lot better game gameplay allways is something more important then story.

  • @Maleniabom
    @Maleniabom Год назад +4

    Started playing it again. So so underrated.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  Год назад +1

      It's a great game!

  • @franknord4826
    @franknord4826 Год назад +2

    Two things you didn't bring up:
    1) Betruger (or rather Betrüger) is literally German for 'Deceiver'.
    2) Malcolm Betruger and Ian McCormick - you didn't notice the reference to Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park?
    Also, I have *no idea* how you got the idea Doom 3 has the gameplay of Resident Evil - yes, it's more horror-focused than prior installments of the franchise, but the gameplay really doesn't bear any semblance to RE. No puzzle items, no backtracking and constant revisiting of places you've been, no resource management and definitely no ammo shortages - literally every single defining element of RE is missing in Doom 3.

  • @jameszack7158
    @jameszack7158 Год назад +1

    💯💯💯 Great work. You have explained all Doom 3 story in detail.There were some parts in the story that I couldn't understıood, now it's clear. Thank you.

  • @MumboJumboZXC
    @MumboJumboZXC Год назад +8

    The devil is real. That random scientist should know, he built his cage.

    • @NaturalStupidity778
      @NaturalStupidity778 Год назад +1

      Never really understood what he meant by that

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Год назад +1

      @@NaturalStupidity778 That he is one of creators of containment field, that keeps portals sealed. Soon after containment field fails, and demonic invasion begins.

  • @carlthevisitor8422
    @carlthevisitor8422 5 месяцев назад +2

    I dabble with creating movie concepts/scripts, back when Doom 3 was the latest in the franchise I decided Anthony Hopkins was the best choice for playing Dr. Betruger.

  • @melasauce9943
    @melasauce9943 Год назад +3

    Cool stuff, keep up the good work!
    Although... the hell did you say about RE6? :D

  • @Kyl0_ben
    @Kyl0_ben Год назад +5

    The Maledict is still one of my favorite enemy designs in the series.

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 11 месяцев назад

      it does have a shit death though.

  • @Hyperion-5744
    @Hyperion-5744 Год назад +7

    Doom 3 is pretty underrated.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +1

      I don't know about this... when it came out, it was id Software's best-selling game and it was pretty well-received as a whole. It brought a much-needed revival to the Doom community, which was showing signs of stagnation.
      The whole negativity towards this game only started later, around 2012/2013 or so. I suspect Brutal Doom and its fans had something to do with it. However, the game's fans endured and Doom 3 still has its place in 2023.

    • @Wiktorino1984
      @Wiktorino1984 4 месяца назад

      Sells good but it was mediocare game.

  • @huntrex1179
    @huntrex1179 Год назад +4

    I remember seeing the BFG Edition in a game store and got it as my first ever Doom game as it also came with Doom 1 and Doom 2, without it I likely wouldn't have ever played Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal. So Doom 3 holds a special place in my life, regardless of it being different from the other Doom games.

  • @kurtkiernan7139
    @kurtkiernan7139 Год назад +3

    I really liked this Doom despite the criticism. It’s the Doom where your Doomed where in the most recent Doom is like their Doomed. And lighting was great nightmare fuel.

    • @kurtkiernan7139
      @kurtkiernan7139 Год назад +2

      Like imagine Doom Hell on Earth and you stop by a hospital and possessed babies crawling out the woodwork.

  • @legionnaire5947
    @legionnaire5947 Год назад +1

    The plasma gun in this game has the best sound design of any sci-fi gun. You can't change my mind.

  • @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579
    @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579 Год назад +4

    Betruger was a victim until going through that portal the first time, he came back the villian

  • @7thFEROX
    @7thFEROX Год назад +4

    I would love to see you cover the wolfenstein series in your unique video format! Love the content!

  • @echospecter2450
    @echospecter2450 Год назад +2

    He's the definition of "ohh that guy's evil" on sight, just one glance is all it takes

  • @Mestephra
    @Mestephra 6 месяцев назад +1

    Whoever trained these two particular marines deserves credit and utmost respect. Passing on the skills to fight back hell isn't something just anyone can do 😅

  • @degreelessnesson
    @degreelessnesson 6 месяцев назад

    Your lore narrations are breathtaking.

  • @DIABETOR
    @DIABETOR Год назад +10

    22:48 honestly as a person who once worked in retail, I could definitely see myself making a deal with the devil if it meant escaping my job, so I really can’t blame him for that

  • @RatKing4049
    @RatKing4049 Год назад +5

    this game was absolutely great, i loved how scary it can be
    even today, I remember the sounds, enemies and this villain
    he had a brilliant build up
    I am glad I played this game and having it being brought to light
    the intro was the greatest out of them all, nothing will ever be like doom 3

    • @noplace4akitty047
      @noplace4akitty047 Год назад

      I’m still scared from that hallway where the lights flicker and there’s the chainsaw bro coming in for the kill.

    • @RatKing4049
      @RatKing4049 Год назад

      @@noplace4akitty047 yeah, the mirror part had scared me as well as the lost souls scene
      freaky shit

    • @spookzie4208
      @spookzie4208 Год назад

      The atmosphere and sound design was so good. Don't forget about SUPER TURBO TURKEY PUNCHER

    • @RatKing4049
      @RatKing4049 Год назад

      @@spookzie4208 YES, BEST FUCKING GAME IN THE WORLD

  • @rautamiekka
    @rautamiekka Год назад +2

    I'm too much a scaredy-cat to play 'D3' solo, but in coop with a 3-4-man team there's no way to say it ain't fun.

  • @leinadreign3510
    @leinadreign3510 Год назад +3

    I want a remake of doom 3.
    To me, it is the best doom out there. It not only had good graphics back in the day, but also the atmosphere was amazing, the story was a good one and it even gave the player a lot of interactivity with the computer screens (which the later dooms took away from the player).
    A shame, that we now have more of a "mario in Bowsers castle" -doom.

  • @LazarheaD
    @LazarheaD Год назад +3

    One of my favorite villains ever along with Handsome Jack. Very much reminded me of Anthony Hopkins in Silence.

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 10 месяцев назад +2

    I really want a remaster/remake of Doom 3...

  • @andrewbrown3304
    @andrewbrown3304 Год назад +2

    I love that the two guys that opened a portal to hell and doomed humanity were called Malcolm and Ian.

    • @SithEmperorSadeus2386
      @SithEmperorSadeus2386 Год назад +3

      Wasn’t Dr. Ian Malcolm Jeff Goldblum’s character from Jurassic Park franchise? It’s been so long since I seen Jurassic Park & Jurassic World: Dominion that I forgot if that was the case or not. Great eye tho by the way! 🎯😉👍🏻💯

  • @rpersen
    @rpersen Год назад +3

    Doom 3 is still great, and this lore video was very well told. Tnx!

  • @xenophobiac4570
    @xenophobiac4570 Год назад +8

    To answer the question if Bertruger was the villain or victim, there has to be option C: neither as he committed acts of evil believing he was doing the most good. He’s a cautionary tale of the ends justifying the means and not stopping to think about what you’re doing and question it. The worst evil is that which believes genuinely that it’s doing the most good.

    • @combinecommando001
      @combinecommando001 Год назад +3

      The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

    • @elishafollet5347
      @elishafollet5347 Год назад

      Nah he's 100% the villain here even though the uac is just as much to blame, many of the actions of making a deal with the devil to getting his coworkers killed of or converted into hell units are 100% his fault and so he shares even more accountability for all those deaths since he was the one who unleashed the demons and actually got everyone killed in the first place.

    • @LordExor
      @LordExor Год назад +2

      He made a deal with Hell for supreme power. I dunno about any good intentions.

    • @elishafollet5347
      @elishafollet5347 Год назад

      @hardstyle905 he was probably a narcissist that was only using "for the greater good" as an excuse to seize power for him self, and probably didn't care about his other workers at all.

  • @vampolascott36
    @vampolascott36 Год назад +1

    I started my umpteenth Doom 3 playthrough with the D3HDP mod. The vanilla version of the mod is the best Doom 3 campaign I've ever played. It took me back to the fun I had with the original game.

  • @rockhound3.14
    @rockhound3.14 Год назад

    Ahh kool. Honestly i didn't never see you covering Betruger. Great content ss always ❤❤

  • @aunrah02
    @aunrah02 Год назад +1

    Doom 3 & it's DLC was actually the 1st Doom game, that I ever beat.
    I still have fond memories of it.
    It wow'd me, when your character The Marine is sucked into hell for the 1st time.
    I thought the Soul Cube was a great addition.
    And I liked how you didn't play the same Marine in the DLC.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад

      Please, don't call it "DLC". It was released on CD back in the day :P

  • @ItsDeebs
    @ItsDeebs Год назад +3

    Doom 3 is a DOOM game. The 1st 1/3 of the game focuses on survival horror like game play. With lots of zombie enemies, limited to no music, just the sounds of the facility in the background. Letting you know you are all alone. The silence also emphasize the loud screeching of an Imp from the shadows. Of which there are a lot. It is also the part of the game with the most supernatural phenomenons, horror themes and jump scare moments.
    The 2/3 is more like a military shooter. This is where you'll mostly be fighting the various possessed marine types, along with mid level demons guarding important area. There will always be the odd Imp type that crawls along the ground hiding under something or in a dark corner and occasional jump scare. Just to keep you on your toes. But Imp encounters will usually be groups of 3 - 7+ teleporting in from multiple points behind, near and ahead of you. They'll also start spawning in to support the possessed Marines and mid level demons.
    The last 3/3 you're Chasing Betruger to the the portal. You'll notice the horror is all but gone and the marines and their hitscan weapons are being replace by demons _(because you've pretty much killed them all)._ There are less jump scare Imps. But you should be accustom to them by now, making them more of a nuisance than anything.
    Then you enter Hell. And from this point on it's a DOOM game. You are given unlimited stamina. No weapons, but soon recover all of them with more than enough ammo and get the berzerk power up. The levels are more arena like. So keep moving, keep shooting, keep dodging projectiles from all the demon types and prioritize targets.
    I got Doom 3 three months after it came out for my new PC. Playing it at max graphics. The survival horror initially turned my off. So I played Half-life 2, Call of Duty and Dawn of War instead. As well as Halo 2 on Xbox. Then I got FEAR and Call of Duty 2. So I didn't properly play through and finish Doom 3 until 2006 and all I can say is. I wish I'd done it sooner. Great game.

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Год назад +2

      At first you are not alone, you can even hear radio transmissions with gunfire, battle commands, etc. and then that's it, silence. You are last one alive at that moment.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +1

      Actually, there is no "survival horror" gameplay in Doom 3 at all.
      Survival horror means avoiding combat, relying on stealth and hiding from enemies. There is no part of this game where you have to avoid combat. Quite the contrary - you can exterminate every demon that attacks you.

    • @ItsDeebs
      @ItsDeebs Год назад +1

      @@AlexeiVoronin "survival horror like"
      _"survival horror_ *like"*
      In the very early game you only have the pistol with limited ammo and torch as a weapon.
      Which depending on your skill, the difficulty, how immersed you get into games and if it's your first time playing.
      After wasting bullets on jump scares. And barely *surviving,* yet another hit from a Zombie or Imp standing in silent in a dark. It'll have you on edge trying to survive the horror.
      Also I have only played the original PC release. Where you couldn't use the flashlight and gun at the same time. So a lot of the time when you switched back to your pistol, you'd be be firing into total darkness or a partial silhouette if you're lucky

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад

      @@ItsDeebs - Hmmm, this still doesn't count as "survival horror", I think. As a sub-genre, it is strongly focused on combat avoidance, being helpless and puzzle-oriented gameplay. This simply isn't the case with Doom 3.
      Besides, truly dark rooms aren't nearly as common as people believe - you really, really have to use the flashlight in only a few specific rooms in the game. And even they can be beaten without it, if you feel like challenging yourself...

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Год назад

      @@AlexeiVoronin It does, if you play on Nightmare - your health constantly drains down to 25 hp, which is basically oneshot for most enemies.

  • @isaiahblackmon2418
    @isaiahblackmon2418 Год назад +2

    This Doom game always put me in the mind of Event Horizon

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +3

      EH is probably the closest thing to a decent "Doom movie" that we'll ever get :P

  • @Blasko86
    @Blasko86 Год назад +5

    Anthony Hopkins would have played an amazing Betruger 👍

    • @petewalker8047
      @petewalker8047 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm glad I'm not the only one.

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 Год назад +2

    I still think the crippled Doctor woman from Doom 2016 was the worst villain in the Doom series. Her entire reason for damning the Mars base was a mixture of pure selfishness and "the demons told me to do it"

  • @JH24821
    @JH24821 Месяц назад

    One thing I always liked was that how in this game hell actually keeps their word for once. Betruger received all the power he desired and actually became the leader of the demonic forces; even commanding demons as powerful as the Archviles, Hellknights and Cyberdemon.

  • @nathanowen8456
    @nathanowen8456 Год назад +2

    Dead space lore would be a good service to cover

  • @ByoumaKoneko
    @ByoumaKoneko Год назад +7

    Your content is great and I would definitely watch more Doom 3 videos should you make them.
    I really enjoy Doom 3, I remember a degree of hate for the shift in tone when it first came out but I liked it then too. I am also a Resident Evil fan, monster horror in general really, but I'm don't think the two compare well. Although I could see a comparison between with RE5 and Village, Resident Evil 4 was the main RE game when Doom 3 was released and RE4 was shifting in the other direction with increasing action and comedy. While both Doom 3 and the RE games contain a horror element, the idea that Doom 3 made Doom more Resident Evil doesn't ring accurate to me, I don't really associate the word stealth with Doom 3 or the RE games of the period either.
    These are just my thoughts, not meant in hate or as a demand to change. Just sharing my thoughts and commenting in general to help the fight against the algorithm.

    • @Skyrionn
      @Skyrionn  Год назад

      Thanks for watching. I understand your comment too. Looking back, I think maybe the stealth part was my playstyle.

  • @Medved725
    @Medved725 Год назад +3

    Personally, I think Half-life would be a more apt comparison to Doom3, and not just because it's also about teleportation gone wrong. It's the larger focus on exploration, puzzle solving, and environmental story-telling. Doom3 is still very much action-oriented unlike Resdient Evil's focus on survival, stealth, and completely different sense of progression.
    I think the reason Doom3 was such a departure is because the first Doom games had such a simple formula that adding even a little would drastically change it, so by the time Doom3 had to come out, the FPS genre had evolved to the point that the developers were stuck with the choice of either making something too similar or too different. It wasn't until Doom 2016 that they had finally figured out how to take the original formula work again.

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers Год назад +1

      I'd still like another horror Doom game

    • @mattmedrala1947
      @mattmedrala1947 Год назад

      Doom 3's narrative structure is also strikingly similar to Half Life. Both start off with you as a new employee who spends some time exploring the facility while things are still safe, both involve you exploring increasingly classified areas, and lead to you exploring the source of the extra dimensional invasion. One difference is that HL1 ended with you defeating the final boss in the alien dimension while Doom 3 has you return back to the facility so you can track down the second portal; not unlike Opposing Force, as a matter of fact

  • @throwaway5502
    @throwaway5502 Год назад +2

    I would love to see more doom 3 on your channel

  • @FantasyPiano317
    @FantasyPiano317 Год назад +1

    Fun fact: Betruger (normally with ü) means Betrayer in German ✌🏼

  • @trevorkhamo8054
    @trevorkhamo8054 5 месяцев назад +1

    Doom 3 had gaming brilliance mixing paranormal with story, the scenes of psychopaths laughter and a skeleton spontaneously moves in the air duct as you traverse it. Awesome game and by far best of the franchise.... "Use us"

  • @txcrix9236
    @txcrix9236 Год назад +3

    That was some really good storytelling about Bertruge Skyrionn. Great job! 👍
    While i wasn't a big fan of the dark stealthy horror gameplay style (and the handheld flashlight🤬 ) I enjoyed having a more detailed story to coincide with the game.

  • @chrisg3193
    @chrisg3193 11 месяцев назад +1

    7:47 this is a face of a man that has seen, heard and experienced somethings

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 Год назад +2

    I recently replayed doom3 in VR. Everyone should try this once.

  • @EthanTheDinoNerd
    @EthanTheDinoNerd Год назад +1

    Doom 3 lore? This is going to be interesting

  • @MaxID.B
    @MaxID.B Год назад +1

    Doom 3 and DLC was and still is the best Doom game

  • @blueshit199
    @blueshit199 4 месяца назад

    something I really like and prefer over Olivia Pearce is how Betruger always remains in control, he's not reactive, but instead always in charge, he knows arcane arts and actually commands the hordes of demons throughout invasion on Mars, and even speaks for Hell itself as though he has full control over it. In the end, he does not come to regret making a bargain with Hell, which is a very important part of his characterization as a villain to me. He's not tricked by the demons, he gains power he always wanted and fully embraces his transformation, something that I also respected in dr Challus Mercer from Dead Space, and something that was lost in the remake of that game, sadly

  • @leopardgecko4226
    @leopardgecko4226 Год назад

    I was around 11 or 12 when I played Doom 3 (my first Doom) and I loved it. Was also my first shooter. Scared me so much it took me about a year to beat the game, haha. Betruger's demonic laugh was horrifying.

  • @texben123
    @texben123 Год назад +1

    Doom 3 happens in a different part of Mars in Mars city in 2145 and Doom 4 takes place in a different region of Mars and 2149, which is years later.

  • @toainsully
    @toainsully Год назад +1

    I replayed Doom 3 (including its expansions) and I forgot how dark and unnerving the whole atmosphere and premise was

  • @EvolvedCasualGamer_HM
    @EvolvedCasualGamer_HM Год назад +1

    Great video, it got me hooked and I watched till the very end🙂. Betrugar was a villain imo as per the script since human lives should matter more to you if you are sane than your research about something unworldly.

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi 4 месяца назад +1

    "Amazin things will happen here soon" sounds more like "Prepare for unforseen consequences".

  • @VaciliNikoMavich
    @VaciliNikoMavich Год назад

    I never got to play this game when i was younger, since achool got really really busy. It *DID* sound really well done though.
    Great video!

  • @hermitcard4494
    @hermitcard4494 Год назад +2

    Doom Eternal is awesome and metal as F 🤟 but they made DoomSlayer so OP that I don't see any threat or danger to him(lore wise).
    Also OP in a weird way because he uses mortal human guns to kill demons, which means even humans and robots could kill demons the same way. But apparently his power is godly stamina and endurance, super speed and agility, strength to carry heavy armor and equipment.
    I mean, how efficient could DoomSlayer be using melee only weapons or enchantment weapons? Like Dante? Like Kratos? But instead he uses human weapons 🫤 weird isn't it?
    PS: Unless he passes his energy into guns and ammo and that's why guns are so deadly with demons ONLY when he uses them, not human soldiers.

    • @doomkrieg3817
      @doomkrieg3817 11 месяцев назад

      So I’m not sure if any of the games ever explain it. In DOOM 2016 and Eternal they make mention of the Seraphim augmenting DOOMSLAYER. In the original set of games he was an ordinary soldier who could sprint at about 60 mph and could fist fight demons into a red paste if necessary. He was extremely proficient in firearms and melee with fists or a chainsaw. Now this is going to be a joke on my behalf here, but perhaps it was a burning retribution for the murder of our pet rabbit that gives us the strength to splatter demons since you learn from several manuals in DOOM 1 that the squad you were forced to join gets obliterated almost immediately upon entering the UAC facility on Phobos.

  • @jasonwright2665
    @jasonwright2665 Год назад +1

    In my opinion, there isn't a bad Doom game out there (with the exception of Doom RPG which I have not played and have no opinion on). Doom 3 was done a bit differently, sure, but the basic premise is there. Hell invades, protagonist proceeds to kick hell's ass. The game even had a creepy atmosphere. The random whispers and chanting was just icing on the cake. I remember the first time playing it, when the invasion first starts and you can hear all the gunfire and screaming over the comms periodically and then eventually it all just quiets down, incredible. I DO enjoy the new Doom series better and kind of wish they could have incorporated Doom 3's lore into it better but Doom 3 isn't a bad game by all means and I still highly recommend playing it, especially if you can get the BFG edition on sale.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад

      Every Doom game was a product of its time. In 2004, this sort of slower-paced, story-driven FPS games were in fashion, so Doom 3 fit in pretty well. Another circumstance to consider is that Classic Doom was often criticised for being a "mindless shooter with no story" (which isn't true, of course), so Doom 3 was a response to this, in some ways.
      The newer Dooms come at a time when the 90's shooter style is experiencing a revival, though Eternal seems to overcompensate, and thus "jumped the shark" with its over-the-top combat mechanics.
      I agree - there are no "bad" Doom games, only different ones.

  • @terryflaps4492
    @terryflaps4492 Год назад +4

    I'm not sure betruger was fully in control of his actions. Like at some point he actually became possessed by the demon he became

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Год назад

      According to some emails in game, Betruger was visited in his dreams by demons and offered a deal. Even before everything went to shit, medical personnel of Mars base reported significant increase in mental issues, as well as growing number of disappearance cases, where people would literally stop showing up to work and not respond in their quarters.

  • @jefffpv2759
    @jefffpv2759 Месяц назад +1

    its my favorite Doom. Ive played it once a year since 2003. first game with real time shadows. pushed the industry to another level. its also well put together and at the time was id softwares most involved and well thought out game with a developed story line. Really enjoyed the story being told through PDA audio diaries, emails and all the TV's around the UAC facilities.

  • @gray-nox
    @gray-nox 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love DooM 3 and this was an amazing story! Thank you!

  • @cyric28
    @cyric28 Год назад +1

    I remember when Doom 3 came out, most of the NEWEST computers had issues running it cause ID software was a bit ahead of their time with this game.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +2

      Its system requirements were monstrous by 2004 standards. And today even cheaper PC's can run it on the Ultra setting... it feels weird.

  • @seanmtak7573
    @seanmtak7573 4 месяца назад

    I’m playing this now on the switch and it’s super freaky and very immersive.

  • @aabarbone9296
    @aabarbone9296 3 дня назад

    I hope this game somehow ties in with the rest of the lore and that we get a continuation of this. The enemies were something else.

  • @DONG-502
    @DONG-502 Год назад +1

    I can't wait for the videos about maykr spiecies and spider mastermind