Helix 3.5 GAMECHANGING Update - Your Helix Never Sounded Better - NEW CABS!!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Here's a REALLY significant update - Line 6 have finally overhauled the Cab Block, with what I think is probably one of the most important variables for affecting tone. We've also now got the Sunn Model T and Peavey Invective from the Metallurgy Collection - and a couple other nice bits like the Earthquaker Devices LIFE Pedal!
The presets I'm using here will be added to the folder "Moon Octave", "Invective Delay", "Invective Shimmer" and "Invective Lead"
Please leave a comment if you find this type of preset build useful, so that I know to keep making them!
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00:00 Intro
1:30 Overview
6:00 New Cab Dialing
9:19 Dynamic Ambience
9:55 New Octaver
10:33 New Vibe - Flexovibe
10:50 4 Voice Chorus - need to come back to this
11:14 Earthquaker Devices Plumes
12:50 Earthquaker Devices LIFE
14:00 New Amps 
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It’s incredible that we are getting updates like this in 2022. My Helix is like a whole new modeller based on the last few updates. All for free! It’s the single best guitar purchase I’ve ever made. So happy I took the plunge on my Helix rack 5 years ago. Line 6 is a great company.
Proves how truly underrated they are.They should be championed for this. I was expecting them to dump us by now !
Total agree. It seems if line 6 want to compete with the likes of Axe fx and others they need to pushing out updates like this.
This raises their awareness and credibility in the guitar community and makes more of us wanting to try and buy.
I'm in the same category of happy helix owners as you are sir. I don't miss my tube amps at all....0%
Honestly, coming from someone who just bought an LT a few months back, I genuinely forget Helix is as old as it is. Which is awesome and exactly how well designed hardware platforms should be maintained imo.
I appreciate this update just like everyone else, but gatta be real.
This mic placement isn't anything new and Helix is the last to get it out of all the highend modelers so.
Either way, really appreciate the update and love how they sound. But could've come quicker
This is the gift that keeps on giving. So happy with the HX Stomp. Never had a piece of kit that just got better and better. This is the very opposite of planned obsolescence. Way to go Yamaha.
"Encoder ballistics have been drastically improved. For example, tonestack values can go from 0.0 to 10.0 with one turn."
This is tiny, but huge quallity of life improvement!
Dual IRs and delay offset on the cabs/IRs is a huge feature for me. Was running a dual delay to get the doubling effect, now i don't need to waste the DSP/block for that. Awesome update
Dual IR is gigantic.
You also get 0.02 ms steps now, which is as low as we can get with 48khz c:
not the same but there's also a stereo doubler (till 4 ). I have to try to get each output to each cab/IR.
I just updated and I can't even believe the difference. I've also got an HX Stomp and an AxeFx III. This update is mind boggling. It is so good. Just goes to show you it's mostly in the programming and not as much in the hardware.
This is mindblowing, still having regular updates of this importance and magnitude. Buying the Helix was one of the best purchases in a lifetime, for sure. Thank you for providing a break down on the update this early.
they actually did it OMG!!!!! i was losing hope already. the fact that the stomp keeps getting better when it's already insane value is just awesome
Yeh - this feels like something that people have been really keen for!
@@johnnathancordy i was really impressed with the metallurgy cabs, they just needed to be in there! love it.
Losing hope on what?
@@boimesa8190 the metallurgy stuff making the jump to helix. but almost everything made it except for the room mics
Actually the Room Mic is sort of there - the Dynamic Ambience is what that is addressing
Something worth bearing in mind: I remember from reading about psycho-acoustics many years ago that the threshold for our ears detecting sounds as being simultaneous is ~20ms. That doesn't mean that
Delaying one side should be used when you want the sound to "come from one side" in stereo, it's not a great stereo widener effect because of how it sounds like it is coming from one side even when the levels are matched. If you want good double-tracked stereo, the Shultz magic technique is detuning +5 cents and -5 cents and panning them hard left and right. Tom detuned them even more sometimes, but I've found that with detune effects that the +5/-5 spread is sufficient to make a very wide stereo image without favoring either side. I'm sure the Helix can do it, but it can also be achieved with the Boss PS-6 if you want a stompbox version.
As a drone/doom/stoner player, I always joked about getting a Sunn Model T in the Helix. I ate my words when Metallurgy came out and I knew it would be coming to my Stomp. It sounds perfect. I'm planning to shoot out the onboard Life Pedal and Plumes with my real life pedals. Not to mention the Invective. This update really felt like it was meant personally for me.
Fantastic! Looks like a bunch of new features I'll be using. The Cab Update looks to be a powerful way to help us dial in awesome tones with ease. The new Pedals look really fun and useful as well.
Thanks Line 6 Helix for consistently supporting your customer's musical aspirations and listening to their requests. You are the best! 👍👏😎
Thanks JNC! Owning and playing the Helix since 2016, Eric and his team working at Line 6 remind me with every--free--release why I love this platform. Please John, in the coming weeks, carry on here sharing your impressions of this mind-blowing Helix upgrade.
How can I like this video more than once? I'm so happy now, just came home from work and was gonna fire it up, and now there is this fantastic update. Yes, I knew they were gonna do it!!!!
Line 6 has made me a life long customer. I've never seen a product supported like my 600 dollar Stomp. Amazing.
Yeah, I try not to be a company fanboy but it is hard not to be a one-eyed Line6 supporter at thispoint
Great video Dude! Smashed it - thanks for getting into the Dual Cab shiz and the new reverb! can’t wait to update!
I cannot get over how AWESOME line 6 is as a business. I have had my HXstomp for 3 years now, and it just keeps getting better, with more features and better sounds, because of these updates - I gave those guys some money 3 years ago, and they continue to deliver new value, year after year. It's crazy.
Wow! Helix is the Gift that keeps on giving. Can't wait to dive in to the new stuff, I can't believe their still doing updates. Th Helix Floor & especially HX Stomp are Ridiculous bang for buck. The new features with mic-ing, delay ofsets, the Dooom Amp Sun0)))and the newer better sounding cabs that use less DSP. Great tones, I can't wait to dive in an curious to hear what awesomeness you've got planned for us ahead John-Nathan \m/
Thanks, JNC...great breakdown. The Helix (family) really is the gift that keeps on giving.
After all these years, still so glad that i went for the Helix and not the Headrush. Line6’s updates have made and kept this such a fantastic product through the years. Excellent update, breathing so much new life back into this product line!
to my ears (I like rock, metal, pop, ...) the headrush usually sounded too bright, maybe harsh, "digital". I also love the comfortable the screens in Helix Floor are, the tags, not having to remember where's what, etc.
AWESOME. Best initial overview on the new 3.5 features so far JNC!! Love the sound of that Vitirol amp for sure and of course the angle/location of the mic!! Game Changer. Never thought we'd ever get that let alone the Lower DSP!!! WOW. Line6 kills it again. XMas come early! cant wait to get some new presets from you based on these updates. You rock.
Another amazing video John! Love these tones and can't wait for them to appear in the folder.
nice preset name lol. i'm stoked about this vital dist. i've been wanting a life pedal forever, even thought about building my own. i just started rebuilding some presets from scratch last night, so it's a perfect time to see what all this new stuff is about!
This is awesome. Side note, you are becoming more and more of a monster player
Yep, awesome playing! That sounded massive 🤟🏻
Great info and demo. Thank you!
Thanks John. I'm looking forward to what you do with this new stuff. That chorus sounds good.
Heard about the new update, searched to see if you had a video out. I wasn’t disappointed. Thanks John!
Cool Line 6, Tx John for sharing with us. Now again more options I will never get in my mind. Built in free into my "old" gear, that was very good before, now more very good.
Super helpful intro to the new update, John. Great stuff as always
I've always hated stock cabs. These sound like really good 3rd party IRs. That is insane! The invective sounds so good as well. The invective and the new 6505 share the same power transformers, so it's basically a 2 for 1 on that.
Same. Always preferred IRs, but the new cabs are fantastic.
Well done , John. Thank you.
So excited to try these!
The vital demo was crazy good. Thank you!
I recently downloaded the Rabea Neural demo and was enjoying the heck out of it, then Line 6 released this update. The magnitude of tones you can get out of the Helix is astounding Corey! The amps sound incredible and the dual IR feature is sick. I like the sound of the Neural plug-ins as well, but they seem extremely limited for the money compared to what Line 6 is offering their customers. All these years later with no upcharge? Simply a great company that keeps producing. Well done Line 6 and well done Mr. Cordy!
I am absolutely stunned by this update. I'm in the market for a Fuzz Pedal because I've been diving into some Doom Metal recently and here comes Line 6 all "...psssst...we has Sunn Amps and Earthquaker Pedals now..." I put together a super basic Doom rig and can't believe how intense it sounds. The Vital Dist is unreal!
Yaaaaay! It's time to go full Helix. So many cool options.
This is fantastic. I always preferred the off axis 57 for cabs in the HD500x but this brings it to all mics so down the rabbit I go.
I wonder if the new blocks do something to introduce the heft factor you previously compensated with the high/low shelf eq between the amp cab - the constant comparison on feel or amp in the room flappy trousers of FAS to L6, or if they still have the more mix friendly version they've had in the past. My way to get around was the XXL V30 cab which had some woofing through my powered PA 15" cone (didn't work as well with 12" cone PAs).
Anyway very excited about this update as an update to a fundamental/foundational feature such as cabs.
That Vitriol Lead is amazing - so much better
Holy shit my computer decided the worst time to die. The new cabs sound freaking awesome. Really excited to try these out!
SO MUCH Versatility! Thanks for not doing what what Fractal does, releasing new hardware all them time!
Uhm, I purchased an Axe Fx a year and a half ago. It was on Update #15......Today....FW Update #21. The AF can use/mix 4 cabs in just one of its two available Cab Blocks. "Game Changing" update......Fractal users are smiling :)
Gamechanging update for Helix users. It's true that Fractal updates are more frequent, but often times they're sort of lots of fixes etc. In any case I think the consumer ends up being the winner when both companies are committed to real improvements over time
HX Edit alerted me to the update so I came straight over here to find out more.
Installed on both HX Stomps that evening. All my presets have transferred over without a hitch.
I'm starting to see what the new cabs sound like and if there is that promised extra DSP which there seems to be!
Thanks John and well done Line6
Great JOB Man!!!
10/10
been loving this update. it makes cabs worth using for me.
Thanks John 👍🏽
Damn.. Am just waiting for my HX Stomp to arrive and new update is here?! Can't wait to dive into your patreon stuff!! They even added some heavy stuff also just for me? Oh they didn't need to do that 🤭
Dear John,
Your patches sound absolutely beautiful and so is your playing. I am a gigging guitarist I play from small events to very big open air festival’s. At the moment I am using a Mesa boogie tc-50 in combination with a helix floor in a 4 cable method plus midi to switch my channels and reverb. I really want to make the switch To using only the helix for reasons as consistentie in sound no matter the stage and for light weight traveling from venue to venue. I only used to run in to some issues. firstly I am pretty dependent on snapshots but haven’t found a amp model that can give me enough flexibility to go from clean to overdrive in a matter where I both like them. So I ran out of dsp to fast. Secondly your patches sound absolutely beautiful because they are stereo patches. But as good as this work in the studio. It would be a nightmare for a life performance. Imagine a very big out door event and you standing on the right side of the stage where the guitar sound is coming of a ribbon and delayed. You will think the guitar tone sucks and is not tight. Because you would hardly hear the left speaker. The way to do this is keep them both in center and blend both characteristics in to one signal. I will definitely try to give it another go. Because I really would like to travel with just my helix. I would appreciate your opinion and maybe some ideas and tips. The reason I need snapshots is for the trials from delay and reverb. I play as a single guitarist in my band and the average amount of patches I use on a show are around 68. Some are the same but have a smal change in compression volume or a reverb setting. The main thing is I need to switch very fast and a lot between clean tones overdriven and plain out heavy lead stuff. Sometimes just for a small accent between chords. So lot of switching 😅
This makes my stomp so much more powerful. I used to have to do these stereo things with two amps, and a delay. So stoked they added this functionality in one block. Will save me 3.
Now, if they added being able to send Left and return stereo into one block, I’ll be the happiest of boys.
Great video!
All I was hoping for was the ability to sum dual cab to mono without using up another block, all of this is great!
That Earthquaker pedal is Brutal!
This is my FAVORITE Update!!! ❤
Saving space and moving some mics in different distances and parts of speaker.🎤
I wish they could simulate that on an IR with different mic simulations and placements.etc….
Thanks for a great video. For us plebes, are there any quick, one-stop shop resources to learn about the various mics, and how changing the mic location and axis affect tone?
I like your playing bud.. Sounded cool with the tones produced..
This is huge. Can't WAIT for all the new presets you're going to come up :)
Definitely try using the 0.02-0.06 ms range for the cab delay, and listen to how the interference does it's work! Absolutely nuts!
This update sounds crazy - takes the "Stomp" to a new level !!!
HX Stomp - or as I like to call it “Sound Engineer Simulator 2022”
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Line 6 had made this 3.5 update & HX Edit 3.5 backward compatible to Mac OS El Capitan unlike the the 3.15 update that had to be installed with workaround using the Line 6 Updater App. Awesome, Line 6, as I didn't have to purchase a new computer.
I really like the new 4 voice chorus and the sunn model T amp. Also the new cab IRs sound great and they're using like 66% less TheyCallMeDSP.
Please do drop into the folder. Great channel, really inspiring and the reason I got the HX Stomp.
I was on the fence about getting an HX stomp but as a doom metal player the sunn amp and life pedal have sold me. Not to mention all the other features.
Hey John! Thanks for the great summary.
Have you ever played the hx stomp through one of the Bose l1 towers? I get the stomp to sound great through my studio monitors at home but then when I go through the Bose tower it sounds awful. Any advice on how to remedy this? EQ and all that hasn't really helped
Very nice update! Just a question, would the update affect the powercab?
This is huge News. I actually bought a Kemper because of some limitations.but not anymore.. this is awesome
Holy FUCK I can't believe it happened! So glad I just bought a Helix myself.
A lot of happy Helixers today!
John! what are you playing your helix thru ? Cause it sounds brilliant mate!
With the increases in processing efficiency I wonder if they'll take advantage of that new found horsepower in a future update. Exciting stuff, and real world results.
I was really hoping for a Nobels and a Feedbacker/Freqout sort of thing, but after messing with the new cabs I am not disappointed.
I am a new Helix LT user and loaded 3.5. What is the best course of action utilizing your material to get help on presets for ambient cleans (including funky effects), crunch rhy, lead, and looper in one preset for snapshot mode in a live situation utilizing the new cabs/IRs? I play in a church that seats 350. PS - also love the EJ sounds you get. Thanks SK
Sick licks as always JNC! What pickups are in that strat?!
How do the new IRs compare with the IR you include in your presets?
I do not know if anybody feel the same but my stomp when turned on is loading faster than before. Anyone had experienced that too?
Incredible job, as always John. I do not have the equipment to measure it, but wearing headphones direct out of my Stomp XL, the new cabs sound links they have a bit more latency. Does anyone have access to technical data on this?
The weed just makes you hear slower. 😂
So my understanding of the dynamic ambient, is it’s not an ambient worship reverb, it’s what Metalurgy used for room mic, like Iridium pedal reverb feature
Yep - it's like a Room Reverb correct
this is why i love line 6
This is brutal... the only thing missing on the Helix platform is profiling/eq match capability. oh And an Andy Timmons Halo fx module 😀
John i love your videos and patches. Can you help? I just updated my firmware to 3.6 and no sound comes out. The only fix I've seen is that you have to manually fix each preset by going to the first block that's input and change each one. Is there a better fix?
I wonder if with the update to Cabs using less DSP, this could translate to Pod. Not sure how it would work with PG Edit… but hey, would be cool to save DSP wherever possible!
Will there be a new folder for 3.5 patches? Haven't seen the presets in the current folder...
The ir delay is huge!!!! It'll make mixing amps and cabs in mono SO MUCH EASIER!!
I compared A Helix LT running to DAW to Helix Native in DAW. It sounds much the same once I got the levels running into Native right. In the end I chose neither. I mix and match plugins from a bunch of developers. I am really liking Softube's Marshall amp plugins, but there are a few that do a Plexi or JCM 800 really well. Line 6's stomp box models are quite good though, but I wish I could buy them individually rather than having to get Native.
P.S. I also do the real amp into a load box and IRs thing (Freyette Power Station). To be honest, once the amp goes thru the load box and IRs in DAW the end result does not sound that different to amp plugins. It is different but not by much. Modelling is getting so good that my amps do not get used as much as they used to. That said the difference is far more noticeable when running the amp thru a speaker cab instead of IRs (modelling does not simulate that though, because it models the entire signal chain through to the mic and mixing desk, so what we hear is more like hearing the guitar in the studio control room or on record than playing live in front of an amp -- which is what I try to explain to folks who say modelling is not like their real amp).
Edit. BTW. Lol. I forget the point of my comment, because I distracted myself with that load box thing. The point is that if your interface is good and you do not need the portability, switching, and I/O of a hardware version of Helix, then the plugin version will do. If the quality of the signal Native is receiving in DAW is as good as what the algorithms in a Helix gets, then the results will be much the same. That goes for all good plugins. Computers tend to have more processing power than a AxeFX or Helix too. Reaper rarely gets above 10% CPU usage no matter how many plugins I throw at it. Can not say that for hardware modellers that often hit their processor limits (whether using a Helix's SHARC or a PC/Apple processor, it does not affect sound quality -- sound quality is determined by stuff like the DACs and the design of the analog parts of the signal processing, while the processor determines how much signal can be processed and how fast etc).
Jon! What and how are you capturing the audio of the HX stomp with. When recording do you usually like to have a certain chain of plug ins or specific signal path for treating the HX Stomp?
Sounds fab. Please drop in the folder. I’ll try and find it…😉
I currently have a Headrush. Currently trying to decide between getting either Helix or FM3. I guess a question for anyone who played both (and, considering this recent update for Helix), out of the two - Helix and FM3, which one "feels" and responds more like the real thing? Most of the modelers are capable of replicating the sound. I'm trying to figure out which one behaves and feels similar to a real thing?
Cool, great improvements and a great demo, but the speaker delay starts to sound out of phase? The new tube screamer pedal sounded great. Thanks as always!
Oioi John! That's cos it's shifting the phase of the IR init!
@@johnnathancordy I’m not quite sure about the phase thing? I’ve recently been recording Mike Stern a lot and he plays through two twins and I’m trying to imagine the distance between two cabinets that would be required to get the kind of delay that you were using. That kind of phase correlation is not that common when recording stereo cabinets? I thought it sounded bigger and fatter before the delay was introduced, but that’s just my ears
I’m totally new to helix (stomp xl) I started with 3.5
I have not yet experimented with IRs
Does the new cabs make experiments with IR unneeded?
I usually use the amp and cab in a single block to conserve a block ( and dsp?) as I often run out when making my patches. Does this update still benifit My use or is it only for those who are putting the cab in a separate block?
What does the "Link Dual Cabs" in the global preferences actually do? Because it doesn't seem to need to be turned on to use the new dual cab feature. And if you are using HX Edit you don't have access to that setting anyway. Also your HX Stomp seems to show a block for each cab when you use dual cabs, but in mine(LT) it's visually part of the same block even with dual cabs loaded up. Is that just a difference in the LT vs the Stomp?
Anyone know if the pod go will get a similar update?
Finally the HX stomp got better!!! 😭🙌🏼
Have these been added to the folder ? last update I had was April 28th. I don't mind paying again JC
Wow at 17.00 great delay sound
I had to sell mine, I am happy with STL Tonehub. I would definitely buy one again though. Looks like I would have more than before!
I have tonehub as well it’s awesome but I prefer my helix
I think I need more power than this. I like my modulation. I have a compressor, chorus, delay, and reverb that are always on to thicken the sound. You almost can't tell they are on. Then other modulations for different moods. I can't get out to try these for myself at the moment, so I need RUclips to start my search.😃 I'm not sure if I should get a cheap multi effects board without getting rid of some pedals, or be completely free of extra gear and go direct with an expensive board. Less gear sounds more appealing I must admit. Thoughts/opinions?
WTF man, what kind of Greg Howe are you? such beautiful runs 👍👍👍👍
...I see a whole new folder coming up 🙂
are your helix presets for purchase using the 3.5 update?
Sounds great, folder please!
Man, the new cab engine/feature is awesome!!! I love the possibility to go dual while panning them AND delay one of them to get something going in the direction of a double track / stereo-ish effect all WITHIN ONE cab block. (Though it's obviously still not the same as being played twice for real). And they did the same for IR's (pan/delay)! Like that, you don't need that delay block trick anymore and you get to use a dual (secondary) path (with pulled down effects) for other stuff, which is actually ideal. One thing though: do you know whether you can change the new "stock" cabs with snapshots? That was something IR's always had as an advantage... All in all, I think this cab/IR improvement alone already justifies this update. They made it better by giving more options AND it takes less DSP. Superb!
You can change the mic and the position with snapshots I think.
I was doing that prior to this update so I'm sure we can still do that now.
@@chl3224 Cheers, yes, I understand and I did that too, but my question wasn't very clear: I meant changing the cab itself with snapshots, like going from a greenback to a V30... You could (and still can hopefully?) literally change the IR's themselves with snapshots, but not cabs.
@@jodecaesteker
I don't think you can change the cab model itself with snapshots. Snaps are there to change different parameters instantly but not the models.
But I'm sure you could add 2 cab blocks and change their bypass state with snapshots though.
@@chl3224 Thanks, I thought so, but still asked, you never know. Still: even though the cab models themselves can't be changed with snapshots, there's more we can change now with mic position and angle! And I have the impression from Jason Sadite's video on the new cabs I might like the new ones better. Anyway, it's a really great update. Helix is, what, around 7 years old? You wouldn't tell IMHO. It's a great product, well thought through from the beginning. And it still looks amazing too, not dated in any way.
Soooo...one day later and I updated. Had a quick look at dual IR's, hoping to find the delay feature there too. I found it, but it seems to be set on BOTH IR's TOGETHER and not on each IR individually, like it is on the new dual cabs... There are 3 tabs for dual IR's, named IR A, IR B and "both". The "both" tab contains two parameters: mix and delay. I was hoping I could use delay on just one IR, like with the dual cabs, but no? What am I missing?
That preset name is EXACTLY how I would’ve named it as well! LoL.
Line 6 consistently improves and supports its existing product line like no other company.
I was a long time Line6 customer that 8 months ago switched to the Fractal FM3. In 8 months, I've had two updates, and in a few weeks will have another. All these updates add lots of features. This is normal for Fractal. What you're just now getting in Line6 is standard stuff that Fractal has had for a while. That's why I finally switched. Also the reverbs and delays in Fractal is way better. Line6 tone was good but you had to work at it. Fractal's tone is more realistic and thicker and didn't take me much effort to dial it in. The defaults are very close.
First bug found and easy to repeat. While edditing a patch the undo buffer crashes after 6 or so undo's
But otherwise really nice update again although I dont use cabs, mics and IRs...
It figures, two weeks ago I purchased impulse responses