Evony- How Cheating happens in All Stars

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024
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  • @HEX467
    @HEX467 4 дня назад +5

    I agree and there is a simple solution. Net positive score. They have ability to track negative points and it should be considered in ranking. This eliminates players donating points to friends because it will hurt their rank. We had a setter sending a ground rally at a 40B castle mixed in with rallies at a more appropriate target. The result, players joined, tanked and lost 9B power to the defenders 200M. Dirty. Track negative scores and make it count for ranking.

  • @Israel_il
    @Israel_il 5 дней назад +7

    Make sense now why I barely seen All-stars streaming on vig-rsp channel this season 🤔

  • @moonboots1655
    @moonboots1655 5 дней назад +2

    Your intro is the coolest out of the the evony youtube channels

  • @nibhmg
    @nibhmg 5 дней назад +3

    I agree with you that something needs to change. I have been saying this for years now, and it's mind blowing for me how ranking is still NOT based on net scores! More and more the top scoring players are those who took more rallies without any consideration on if they were net positive or net negative (points wise) on those defenses. In my semifinals, the player who ranked #1 in the battle was a 44B player who was fully zeroed in 4 attacks - they were extremely net negative in each rally they took. Heal and repeat. AND THEY PLACED FIRST! I can't think of any competition of any type where net negative contribution is rewarded other than evony.
    That's just one of the many issues. Like you said in your video, those from same alliance prioritize attacking their friends since those who take defensive hits score the most points as just explained.
    Plus LAG! Which seems to just get worse instead of ever get better.
    It's all so out of control that advancing to all stars and through the rounds is now more of a popularity contest, dependent on how weak your defense is (how attractive of a target you are), how lucky you are on the lag/glitche draw, and how big your wallet is. It's less and less about skills, so how can it even be called ALL STARS?

  • @macmaher13
    @macmaher13 5 дней назад +1

    The other issue is that Evony itself does not care. So about the issue of point reductions, I had 9 out of my 32 defense reports in the C5 All Star semis get flagged for excessive points. This effectively eliminated me from the finals as I finished just 3,800 points out. But these reports are from 3 different keeps, each playing for a different all star team, and all of them are from different servers. So the point reduction system is entirely arbitrary and meant to keep smaller players and lower spenders out. Evony is not going to change anything with all stars because they’re ensuring the biggest spenders are given the highest rewards instead of allowing the fair and driven by integrity system that they will preach when you call them out on it.

  • @richardsmith4653
    @richardsmith4653 4 дня назад

    Money Money Money

  • @Xandour
    @Xandour 5 дней назад +1

    Evony could easily just add a modifier for points when reinforcing people. This way you dont need-need to get rallied but you could keep up by reinforcing.

  • @Edwin-xq8ie
    @Edwin-xq8ie 5 дней назад +1

    Agree with some parts of this video. Good points throughout. Point trading rampant in certain continents and certain teams, including this current All-stars where a certain team in c3 had some backdoor agreements. However, have to confirm that oz doesn't point trade and never has, some keeps in RSP just off the cut-off for elder scroll dragon and weren't pushed into top 50. His vids are live streamed so can cross-check there.

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад +1

      but he flat out said 4 rsp setters is non negotiable cause they need to push people..maybe the finals was just difficult to push...but they stil lgot 7 elder scrolls more than double 2nd place

    • @Edwin-xq8ie
      @Edwin-xq8ie 4 дня назад

      @@gamingaddictswithgenghis Ye in ss he said it but in finals only had 2 setters , the 7 who got elder scrolls were all super high coined keeps so they would've gotten it regardless

  • @realBarbLife
    @realBarbLife 5 дней назад +1

    so glad i am on c6 and don't have to worry about this level of rigging. placed 33 got an elder dragon soul, pretty happy

    • @MeetDeathEvony
      @MeetDeathEvony 5 дней назад

      I thought the same about C5 until you have C1-C2 well known players filling for terrible setters in all stars to just brag about how they took advantage of inexperienced players. 🙄

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад

      awesome..get 2 more!

  • @MarcinWiercioch-h5u
    @MarcinWiercioch-h5u 4 дня назад

    I agree with your point. Also easy fix from evony would be getting 100 players, all finalists, to be able to to get a chance for elder dragon soul

  • @andrewchris4480
    @andrewchris4480 5 дней назад

    Since teams are random( at least this is what i’m hoping for), shouldn’t be easier for evony to decrease by x%/xx% amount the points you get when you get attacked/attack someone from your own alliance ? For example someone from your alliance is setting on you, you get 10k points from that defence normally, but due to the clause that setter was from your own alliance, your points are reduced to 3k 4k whatever

  • @jayc8495
    @jayc8495 4 дня назад +1

    oz only still playin cause viper told him telling people how big your keep used to be doesnt work w the ladies so oz knows you gotta have that proof on your phone in case the lady asks to see the buffs

  • @robertgosney5657
    @robertgosney5657 4 дня назад

    How about this to fix it you go in with the troops you have and during the battle healing is disabled if you get zerod you can train more troops if you want but you cant heal mabye have hospital tents on the battlefield to heal percantage of troops but limited number of those but your own healing nope.

  • @Kalpitt
    @Kalpitt 4 дня назад

    It takes so much time and effort to get an opportunity to play all stars ( as an ftp or even a low coiner ) , if people are doing the point trading and stuff , others lose interest in the game and every aspect of the enjoyment that this game has to offer . I don't know if things will change or not but sir you have my respect for pointing this out. I play 1547 and yeah i'm never gonna get there as ftp but still hate point trading in such a big event.

  • @Based_Goddd
    @Based_Goddd 5 дней назад +4

    Pretty obviously joking. Notice the emoji use.
    Go look at when he streamed his AS rounds from the previous season and the current one. Find 30 secs before and 30 secs after he may have hit someone that he knows. If it was a bad hit, he stops. If it’s a good hit for his AS team they circle back.
    If he was trading and collaborating, why would he stream and keep the videos public? Do your research

  • @jamesjosrobertson
    @jamesjosrobertson 5 дней назад

    what if evony didn't allow alliances to rally their own players? it would allow other rally setters to share the points more even considering the rally cap size, location of other keeps near the setter allowing other teammates to get their full march in. you can't kill your own teammates in svs, not sure why it's allowed at all

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад

      ya i think then it would revert back to the old all star ways which was..you hit my friend ill hit yours

    • @gh05t5n1per
      @gh05t5n1per 3 дня назад

      You can definitely kill your own server during svs... I've hit keeps from my own server during svs.... and been hit by people on my own server during svs.

  • @IWT19
    @IWT19 5 дней назад +1

    Oye... Again, this is from a limited perspective.. I'll keep it simple. If Phil payed someone (yes, that's a thing and not saying I agree with it) to play his account, they would definitely place much higher. Some of these players are good coiners but not good players. With that, AS could be tweaked to make things better. Especially the healing aspect of it. To say just because an account has alot of power and should place high is really a "liberal" statement. You've spoken out about the whole participation trophy aspect before, well you're advocating for it now. Regardless, good vid. Keep it up. Also, it's VIG with a G sound not a J. It's not short for vagina : ).

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад

      So two very important things here..1. In no way do I think phil should get a participation trophy or 1st place gifted to him..I just used him as an example cause he was a big account in a matchup with 4 setters from 1 alliance...and 2...Although you seem to not know I do it on purpose...finally someone figured out a subtle jab being delivered ;)

  • @Duane123
    @Duane123 4 дня назад

    I watched this match as I follow Hex and Sassy, it was so blatant this cheating, next time when they rock into the discord chat and insist on setting - tell them where to go. They can’t be trusted, so don’t fill their rallies, let them play by themselves if they won’t fill yours

  • @Sid_2007
    @Sid_2007 5 дней назад

    Maybe this needs to be discussed further on the next DC?

  • @imranwillie6337
    @imranwillie6337 5 дней назад

    %100 agree

  • @cS-mv6du
    @cS-mv6du 4 дня назад

    Defense is the problem. Players just sitting back taking hits and not joining rallies. Many big names in multiple continents did not make top 50. Net positive is a great idea.

  • @Geisthound
    @Geisthound 5 дней назад

    I think c1 isn't as bad as you guys, but anyways I have Clark play Geist, but the diff is, I'm watching on livestream not playing another account. I do agree its an evony issue. At the top levels, ppl do whatever possible to get top 3 or top 5. If there is a advantage outside of maxing the account out money wise , its this gameplay. I like the idea of same team for same alliance members, I'm going to attempt to let CS know about it.

  • @flushing_queens4827
    @flushing_queens4827 5 дней назад +2

    Oz's finals team has came in last the past few all stars...not sure why they're still letting him set. And i dont even think khalid has setting experience? I know geek/zero do from their other accounts

    • @Alex-bw8wr
      @Alex-bw8wr 5 дней назад

      @@flushing_queens4827 bc of rally cap

    • @flushing_queens4827
      @flushing_queens4827 4 дня назад

      @@Alex-bw8wr then kingster team wins again with 30m smaller cap

  • @ДушанХаџић
    @ДушанХаџић 5 дней назад

    If you were against VIG player being setter,no one should join his rallies and Philip setting at the same time.Basicaly you guys could isolate him if majority was against it.

  • @Diesel44030
    @Diesel44030 4 дня назад

    If they’re openly rigging it why doesn’t the rest of the community refuse to make them rallybsetters and also refuse to join their rallies. We could easily fix their rigging as a community without evonys help. 😅

  • @anthonyvilla9273
    @anthonyvilla9273 5 дней назад +2

    Thanks so much for pointing this out. I saw the point trading in finals for C1 but didn't actually think it was OZR. Thought they had integrity, turns out they're not real all stars, they're cheat stars.

  • @DejuVu
    @DejuVu 5 дней назад

    No video about Neo getting a server merge yet. GK Is slacking 😂

  • @tufnica
    @tufnica 5 дней назад

    As always people will cheat (point trading, pack load, iscout, bot). As always, someone is going to complain. As always, evony will do nothing. And then in circle...

  • @cosmingheorghe2737
    @cosmingheorghe2737 5 дней назад

    Hi ! You are one of the most followed vlogger for this game.i think you should start to ask for another coinstrike in this game ,just for this kind of things. Better reward for f2p and low coiner,better all-star supervisor,we sustain like idiots last coinstrike for account that was blocked because they are cheating. But I losted my chance to an egg for exact same thing! Points trading! I'm not a big spender. Only vip 17 and maybe 10k here in 1.8 years. But I'm not coin any penny since last 3 month just because ,evony don't give a shit about us. As I said this kind of thing should be sustained in a coinstrike,not unlocking cheating account. And I also thing you should be in that voice call with developers. They put same leaders for next voice call? Why because they know what they need to ask for themselves not for all people. In a message on c5 i said" sustain coinstrike just for better rewards and lags for f2p and low coiner,I don't care about blocked account" people jump into my had cuz I made viper a cheater! But let me ask you this ,does he is not a cheater?

    • @cosmingheorghe2737
      @cosmingheorghe2737 5 дней назад

      PS: I also think that all-star selection should be according to your vip lvl. When you are 22-25 vip I'm pretty sure that you'll try to help only you and you'll not care about vip 17. But when I'm vip 17 that means my buffs are maybe maximazed for my lvl so don't put me to play against 5000% buffs. Let me show my skills at my level. Do better prizes for vip 20-25 in all-star and let same prize for lower vip. This will make people to not trading points because all big players will want to win theirs prizes and will not try to carry in semy or finals his friend.

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад

      He is one of the biggest cheaters of all time in a game notorious for cheating...there is no doubt about that...now to your other point, now as for coinstrike...i think it needs a long break before its attempted again

    • @cosmingheorghe2737
      @cosmingheorghe2737 2 дня назад

      Long attempt will make evony to believe that we are pleased with what they are doing. I'm not please. The only reason that I don't still quit is because here I have some nice friends...and because I care about my investments. Many people will quit from old server already a lot op great players from 845 my oldest server quit and they are k 40-42... Why because they got tired... Who will play this game ? Neu server from c6 till they realize the game become a shit! Thank for your response!​@@gamingaddictswithgenghis

  • @EvonywithQ
    @EvonywithQ 5 дней назад

    Unless humans stop playing it’s always going to be that part of the game I feel. Unfortunately this game is banded on clubs and clicks in certain situations. Have to find a crew or stop playing pretty much. Otherwise go ballistic but then that hurts your team. Just my views and opinion.

  • @youngjohn5076
    @youngjohn5076 5 дней назад

    Yes this did happen for us also

  • @djschwartz1380
    @djschwartz1380 5 дней назад

    Imo begging to be pushed during all star qualifications is just as much cheating.

  • @whoisderf
    @whoisderf 4 дня назад

    Not playing on your own account should be considered cheating… If you can’t play, oh well, your problem. Stop cheating.

  • @jonathanseegers1135
    @jonathanseegers1135 5 дней назад

    useless ranting, its his own fault for not making it. He needed more ttacking rallies and more reining people to get score. I can assure you, that he was bad at reining people. In my group, we had players that where never rallied but got tons of points from reining and rallies. He is just used to beat others but is a bad esport player.

  • @MeetDeathEvony
    @MeetDeathEvony 5 дней назад

    First part of the video reminds me of C1-C2 EXPERIENCED players filling for terrible setters/players in C5 to win it all AND to brag about it. Like what exactly is there to brag about, that said keep went and took advantage of less experienced players? 🤔

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад +1

      you may be on to something...they prefer to play lower continents than their own keeps

  • @msuren1
    @msuren1 5 дней назад

    just leave c2 and evony too

  • @mattwojcik3142
    @mattwojcik3142 5 дней назад

    love your videos.....however, you are so wrong on your intelligent design BS. You are smart enough and I hope you figure it out.

  • @mattschauer3378
    @mattschauer3378 4 дня назад

    Don't forget geek on C4 too....

  • @queenlip6152
    @queenlip6152 5 дней назад

    There's so much cheating going on in Evony. I complained of coiners in new servers taking all the purple and gold subs and passing them to their teammates. 100k power accounts holding gold subs!
    Basically, coin fast to k30 in a day or two and use iscout to grab every gold/purple subs.
    Evony does nothing!

  • @JohnnyMoreno-i4z
    @JohnnyMoreno-i4z 5 дней назад

    Everyone needs to listen to THIS. Rules are put into place to decapitate the most OBVIOUS ways of "cutting corners". Aside from THAT, cut the corners as well as you can. SHOW YOUR SKILLS/ABILITY AS WELL AS YOU CAN. Now, that means REGARDLESS of the side of the coin you end up on in other's attempts at "cutting corners'. We can't bitch and moan and act entitled when we feel slighted in ANY FORM all because someone else bests you in their ability to cut corners. It gives off extreme "Mama's boy" vibes. NOT A GOOD LOOK. But hear this : IT'S NOT CHEATING IF THERE ISN'T A RULE AGAINST THE ACTION. POINT BLANK.
    This whole situation reminds me too much of a child that receives a donut from their mother, then watches their sibling receive one that has a bulging side giving the APPEARANCE that it's larger than their own and automatically starts whining to mother as to why the siblings donut is bigger than their own (without understanding that it's nothing but an air pocket at one edge of the donut).
    It is NOT the job of the players to institute rules that HAVE NOT been placed by the creators of the app. In reality the only cheating i consider CHEATING is the use of programs or botts (which we all know are used.
    Your grievance should be addressed towards Evony, not throwing jabs at those that look at the preexisting rules and figure out how to navigate through them. I watch you and actually have taken dozens of pointers from you. You possess more than just the average understanding of the game, can you imagine someone bitching and moaning and the fact that you have a better grasp of the game than their ability to? Sounds foolish, right? BINGO‼️
    Now, I get what you're saying, but.... Your video and tittle should have been addressed SPECIFICALLY at Evony. We all know how horrible they are at listening to us through Emails and such. BUT, they won't ignore a video placed on Social Media. It's bad publicity and makes the developers look uncaring, which in turn creates coiners that stop coining. Period. THIS IS AN EVONY PROBLEM, NOT ANY PLAYER'S. A players Integrity has zero to do with this. Once again, rules are put into place to denote WHAT OBVIOUS CORNERS YOU MUST AVOID CUTTING. Stop attempting to shame players that were smarter and figured out the CORNER CUTTING tactics, this is not a friendly game. IT IS A WAR TACTICS GAME. It is a constant competition. Nothing friendly about it. If no specific rules were violated, WHY are you moaning? I'm pretty sure your assigned sex at birth was male, so stand up and let them dangle, I'll be with you 1000% if you were to PROPERLY address Evony on the matter, BUT NOT while you're fully participating in a game and bitching to everyone that the players are cheating because they figured out loopholes that you feel are ill-gotten and lacks integrity. You can't be THAT condescending 🤦🏽‍♀️
    WHY don't you create a video on players that get zeroed during SVS, all while having a 3 day bubble on? There's PLENTY OF PLAYERS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE SERVERS that have experienced this. Now, THAT ACTION denotes programs. THIS is cheating.... there's dozens of more ideas I can give, but you get the gist.
    LET THEM HANG, BUDDY‼️ AND keep up the good work, just not this type of crap🤦🏽‍♀️🫡 14:04

    • @gamingaddictswithgenghis
      @gamingaddictswithgenghis  4 дня назад +1

      I can respect this opinion...I think what youre saying is if theres no rule..people just letting the free market decide how to get points, as for the 3 day bubble..ive yet to see a credible report..ive seen a lot of..i swear on my life i put one on...but i know ive put a bubble on..log out to check and the bubble didnt take..so i put it on again..log out, login and its there...i think people need to double and triple check the bubble took.

    • @JohnnyMoreno-i4z
      @JohnnyMoreno-i4z 4 дня назад

      @gamingaddictswithgenghis You see, just the fact that you took this with a grain of salt without getting offended is the reason I watch you. Keep up the good work, you definitely still have me as a supporter 🫡🙌🏽