I‘m way more optimistic and budgeting 4000 Euro for 2033. I‘ll have to save 400 per year or 1.10 per day in case I‘m hoarding cash instead of investing. In other words, it‘s one less hamburger per day at McDonalds, and I don‘t like McDonalds. So, where‘s the problem? 🎉
@@LoightaFluwid We love to do general comparisons and rankings. It will absolutely happen as soon as the companies stop making all these new cameras!!
They are beautiful and expensive, but they have many flaws just like any other camera out there, but no one dare to say anything negative about them... and in reality they are just Frankensteins...a sony sensor....panasonic software...etc... Just an icon only few can afford. All that said.....I want one!
As someone who's amazingly not spent much time with this series, I'm genuinely interested in the price justification. Obviously many of the specs are familiar from more affordable cameras, so is the money here mostly going on the lens? The build? The design? The brand? The processing? The exclusivity? I'm not putting it down, nor any luxury product, but again I genuinely wondered about the value / performance aspect. I also realise there are some products that just make their owners feel good, and that can be priceless and hard to quantify, and equally I know as you get higher-end in any category, you're paying a lot for often small improvements. I have that with hifi and coffee for example! I suspect this sensor and AF system will end up in a future high-end Lumix body, possibly the S1R successor, and I bet the EVF res won't miraculously stay high while autofocusing on final firmware as it's a common issue across multiple cameras and brands. Anyway, I'm delighted to see any new fixed lens compact - we need more of them, and I wish Panasonic would re-enter the fray with a new LX. Wonder what's next for the X100 series too...
There is no 'value' in a Leica product. It's about a handmade product from a luxury camera maker although these modern digital Leicas are probably less handmade than their film cameras. Get a Fuji or Panny if you want value - no disrespect intended.
The brand It is everything here, and what goes with it for materials and engineering quality, design aesthetic the and visceral ownership experience of a luxury item.
I wouldn’t ordinarily consider such a camera but 2 years ago I went on holidays with an XT4 a 16 1.4 and 35 F2… I pretty much used the 16 99% of the time.. This camera feels like a one and done solution. But due to the price there are many countries I wouldn’t take this lens in fear of theft. I’ve owned the X100V and sold it and I won’t buy it again because the battery is too small and the EVF feels too small for me. An X100V with a 18mm 1.7, XPro3 sized EVF, 5.76 res, dual card slot with XT4 battery would 100% make it on my shopping list.
@@robmcd I have an X100V and really like it. I agree both the battery and viewfinder could be bigger, but otherwise it's almost perfect for me. If they fitted the 40mp sensor in the next one, they could also go for a wider lens and exploit cropping. Your spec list sounds great, but price aside, I fear it would become too large and lose some of its charm.
Wait a minute, when you guys are reviewing Nikon, Canon, Sony that cost a fraction of what a Leica camera costs, you criticize so badly cameras with one card slot. With this camera, 1 USD card slot is now acceptable???
Still no internal storage or second card slot, resolution over readout speed, the flip out display not sitting flush with the body .... This seems misguided, to be honest. #NotMyQ
@@niccollsvideo And the buttons left of the screen are gone as well. In Kai and Lok's video it is also more visible how badly the display is implemented. Very interested about your thoughts when the camera is out. Can't wait for the full review. ;)
Do NOT buy Leica Q 1 2 or 3! They are such good examples of Leica picture quality, build and user experience that you will end up with buying 2 Leica Ms (one for film, one for digital), possibly Leica SL, and save up your money for Leica lens (Voigtlaender + Leica M is amazing though).
SO glad you guys are still cranking on PetaPixel! I'd like to know about how effective the IBIS is with the 60MP sensor. Also, is there any benefit with the lower resolution settings because I understand it still uses the entire sensor. Does the camera pixel bin to have any improvement in dynamic range or noise in that case (if it does)? (edit: it seems Leica might have confirmed a while back that on the M11 there's no benefit to dynamic range or noise when selecting a lower resolution…wonder if that's still the case with the Q3?) (edit 2: Kai W reports that medium and small file sizes gets a 1 stop increase in dynamic range over large)
I knew, I knew...I have to start "selling" this camera to my wife who, of course, wouldn't understand why I need yet another camera. I used to have the Q1 and loved it. Then I moved to the Sonys (which are more practical than any Leica) but the Q3 is a gem. Not only a great camera.
Waiting for the Q3 after loving the Q2M. HDMI out, well with no mic jack kind of funny. But it's a stills camera for me anyways. Time to sell some cameras :D
Fair play to Leica... they have survived the digital crisis and now they are well and truly a Veblen brand. They only have to do minimal upgrades and you will want it.
Anyone in this Leica class were going to upgrade even if it had less features than the Q2 lol. From someone on the outside looking in this is just about the most soulless camera I've ever seen from Leica
this Q's are falling off the list everytime I see its 28mm focal length. everything between 21mm and 34mm isn't for me. Too bad they never try a model with a 35mm or, even better, a 50mm fixed lens... 🤷
I read the other day that Leica is really a Sony sensor in a Panasonic that's made in Germany with all the build quality the Germans give to the world. Still want one though LOL, but not for £6k
I understand that this is a pretty camera with some nice made in germany vibes, but seriously - 6k$ for a camera with a fixed lens, not so great AF, no full sensor 4k and basically 4 fps with continuous AF? I would prefer a modern Canon or Sony and get me a pair of nice crocodile leather boots instead, for the exclusive style. If Leica, then I would prefer an M-D for the fun factor. But this basically is a camera as any other, just with lower tech specs. I don't get the hype.
@@SomeDudeSomewhere i have an X-H1, and have previously owned an x-t30, Fuji's are great but I own a Leica M4 and used a Leica Q before in store, and I'm sorry, they're in another league to Fuji's offerings. Overpriced? Most definitely, but that's because they have literally zero competition
@@CianMcsweeney Yea Fuji is great not until the fix their crappy App. I’m using X100V, the App is the worst in the industry. But performance is great 👍🏼
@@SomeDudeSomewhere it's not about technical quality, nowadays any decent camera from the last 5 years is more than enough quality wise, it's about the experience of using the camera, something Fuji does better than most other manufacturers, but Leica is abother step up again
@@SomeDudeSomewhere and I disagree 🤷 there definitely are rich people who treat leicas as a fashion accessory and never actually use it, but it's also unquestionably true that they simply do certain things better than other brands: 1) Large optical viewfinder with a optical focus patch 2) 70 year lineup of high quality manual focus lenses, the lenses are also way smaller than even APSC lenses. 3) simple and intuitive physical and software controls. Now those things may not be important to you, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean that they are only "good because they cost a lot". The reason they were able to get away with charging so much in the first place is because they made a good product, the pricing *is* out of control, but it doesn't take away the actual tangible benefits the cameras have
I’m sorry I think this camera is toy for wealthy people for whom the cost is chump change and for desperate attention seekers who will starve to buy this camera on finance. Just so they can walk around going look at me look at me, after getting out of their expensive financed car that they also have to live in. All to give the impression they’ve made it lol. I’d rather a Sony A1 tbh or a Fuji or hasselblad medium format!.
Good review. But was waiting for your review (or preview) of the Fujifilm X-S20, and...nothing. Fujifilm launch strategy for the X-S20 is weird, to say the least.
Having taken early retirement, I got back into photography one year ago (after a long, long...long break). Chris's review of the Lumix FZ2500 was one of the first, and best, things I watched. Chris and Jordan as a pair are even better! Keep up the great work. 👍👍👍
@@klarkolofsson Thanks! You're referring to the FZ2500? If so, nice to have the corroboration - I've read lots of reviews of this camera, nearly all of which praise the video capabilities of the FZ2500, and which, while they're complimentary, are less effusive about it's performance as a stills camera. Having owned it for a year, I have to say that I am very happy with it. Certainly I could spend three times the money and get something superior...but I'd have to spend three times the money!
I was a bit confused as to how 5.76M Dot EVF == 1600 x 1200 but it is perhaps a ECX339A OLED Microdisplay (or something similar). The Resolution is described as UXGA（1600×RGB×1200). To me this feels like it is really just a 1.92M dot EVF albeit an especially nice OLED display...
When the resolution is specified in dots, it is the number of sub-pixels which are each either red, green or blue (or sometimes other sets of colors are used). One pixel is usually composed of three sub-pixels. 1600*1200*3=5760000
@@MichaelSchagen I get it and I agree but if someone described my 4K OLED TV as a 24,883,200 dot display it would feel to me like a a bit of a marketing swizz although technically accurate.
2:18 That fantastic 28mm lens is the best 26mm lens Leica ever built: I did a comparison between my Q and a friend's Batis 25, and it turns out the outputs were almost identical.
Leica, If you want to really tempt those of us who haven’t bought into a Leica please please please offer a version with a 35-40mm lens. Zooming in with the step crops, as this model allows, is not the same.
Great video buy. But best street camera is still the X100V for function and price. People also forget with Leica gear is the place you take great street photos are often not places you want to be at night with 6-15k of camera gear in your hand.
Nice, I have my RX1R for this use and still have no plan to s pm urge anything even remotely close to a Leica price but man... We need more of this type of camera
For that price, there seems like a lot of caveats and compromises. Leica could have probably charged $1000 more if the EVF resolution didn’t drop during focusing and the video modes weren’t full of asterisks. And for $6000 it should have zero asterisks on the spec sheet.
Best intro ever. When You consider a upper end Mirrorless from Canon, Sony or Nikon with a fast prime and You are at about the same money. Maybe it's time for a Leica for Me.
So great seeing Leica forge ahead with cutting edge technology; phase detect autofocus..wow. some people and animal detection "seems to be pretty effective" ..."tracking seems to be quite sticky....would never have used it on the Q2" 12 frames/sec max electronic shutter, but no C.AF.😵💫 At this rate they'll soon be able to charge as much as other cameras.....wait, what? $10,000 Australian???
Hi Chris and Jordan 🙂. ooh, you buried the lead on this video. Y'all got to keep puppet Jordan!!!!! I hope puppet Chris will be able to join the channel at some point too.
47MP is overkill and 60MP make files go huge, most will choose 36MP for daily use so 47MP is fine still. Wireless charging and USB charging, charging using a dock is actually good for the battery health since heat gets dissipate outside the camera. Never needing a flip screen since 28 is wide enough and post crop and leveling is possible in digital age. The flip screen is a let down, not sitting flush like the X100V, Leica can do better I believe by letting the screen protruded, which imo looks bulky and less aesthetically appealing. I hope the connector door is metal instead of plastic dangling. Those buttons all moved to the right and I’m not sure how many people will accidentally trigger them with their palm when holding with their right hand.
Sony A7C II should be broadly similar with interchangeable lenses and mic input of course. Crossing fingers Great videos by the way. Keep them coming. You are on fire…..
@@0action847 agreed. I would venture to guess Sony product managers are discussing options with folks like us trying to find what would entice us into upgrade. I love my A7C it is truly do it all camera. It works as webcam. It works as photo camera. It works for travel. It works for arranged photo shoots. I am thinking of few things that would make it better. 40+ MP would be nice. Fast full electronic shutter like ZV-E1 or A9. Slightly bigger EVF with higher resolution, higher res rear screen.
Well the Q(1) had a better performance in low lighting, I have the Q2 and I've seen it doesnt do as well as the Q1 in low light, and now with the Q3 now having 60MP I'm sure it won't be better in low lighting, I thought they were going back to less MP to be honest. The only Thing I would have loved is Type C charging for when traveling, the hdmi out is definitely overkill specially considering the screen tilts now.
Still using the original Q. Dont feel the need to get the Q2 or Q3, despite the possibility to have better rsolution on crop mode is cool. But other than that, I think Ill still keep the Q for now. Waiting for the Q2 used market does its things as it did with the Q :)
I would have thought that wireless charging might have warranted a mention. Yes you need the optional grip (which is an even better hand hold IMHO) but that's still very cool.
And is this truth, actually its a zoom lens. Because you have this crop functions (windows) and with the 60MP pixels you can crop to like 50mm or 70mm and thats the same like using a 50mm or 70mm lens. Am I right?
I will wait 10 years and get it 500 dollars cheaper
哈哈哈哈，我也一样
So true hahah
Not gonna happen.... prices will go up and depreciation will not be that drastic
I‘m way more optimistic and budgeting 4000 Euro for 2033. I‘ll have to save 400 per year or 1.10 per day in case I‘m hoarding cash instead of investing. In other words, it‘s one less hamburger per day at McDonalds, and I don‘t like McDonalds. So, where‘s the problem? 🎉
😂😂😂
Man Chris and Jordan are on fire releasing videos after joining Petapixel. Us Petapeeps could not have wished for more.
Can you guys also do a video comparing the Mmidrange full frame cameras such as the A7IV, R6ii, S5IIX, Z6II
@@LoightaFluwid We love to do general comparisons and rankings. It will absolutely happen as soon as the companies stop making all these new cameras!!
I thought we were PetaPixies
@@fellowcitizen No, I hear PetaPickles. Rhymes with Chris Niccolls.
As long as it's not Petaphiles I'm happy
Soooo no addressing the elephant in the room - that huge hump of a tilt screen? I thought after X100V nothing is impossible...
Keep em coming Chris & Jordan - will never have the money for a Leica, but more than happy to watch you guys discuss one.
buy a used Leica Q mk1. The prices are going to tank on them now. That is more camera than most people need for a point and shoot anyway!
there's d-lux or other model that are essentially rebrand lol
@@eidrag dlux and other lumix rebrands are not the same as a leica q.
@@joonjae I know, just to poke at rebrand leica vs camera made by leica.
There is still hope, as long as you're happy to live without an arm and a leg!
They are beautiful and expensive, but they have many flaws just like any other camera out there, but no one dare to say anything negative about them... and in reality they are just Frankensteins...a sony sensor....panasonic software...etc... Just an icon only few can afford. All that said.....I want one!
As someone who's amazingly not spent much time with this series, I'm genuinely interested in the price justification. Obviously many of the specs are familiar from more affordable cameras, so is the money here mostly going on the lens? The build? The design? The brand? The processing? The exclusivity? I'm not putting it down, nor any luxury product, but again I genuinely wondered about the value / performance aspect. I also realise there are some products that just make their owners feel good, and that can be priceless and hard to quantify, and equally I know as you get higher-end in any category, you're paying a lot for often small improvements. I have that with hifi and coffee for example! I suspect this sensor and AF system will end up in a future high-end Lumix body, possibly the S1R successor, and I bet the EVF res won't miraculously stay high while autofocusing on final firmware as it's a common issue across multiple cameras and brands. Anyway, I'm delighted to see any new fixed lens compact - we need more of them, and I wish Panasonic would re-enter the fray with a new LX. Wonder what's next for the X100 series too...
There is no 'value' in a Leica product. It's about a handmade product from a luxury camera maker although these modern digital Leicas are probably less handmade than their film cameras. Get a Fuji or Panny if you want value - no disrespect intended.
That little red badge adds $2-5k to the price.
The brand
It is everything here, and what goes with it for materials and engineering quality, design aesthetic the and visceral ownership experience of a luxury item.
I wouldn’t ordinarily consider such a camera but 2 years ago I went on holidays with an XT4 a 16 1.4 and 35 F2… I pretty much used the 16 99% of the time..
This camera feels like a one and done solution. But due to the price there are many countries I wouldn’t take this lens in fear of theft.
I’ve owned the X100V and sold it and I won’t buy it again because the battery is too small and the EVF feels too small for me.
An X100V with a 18mm 1.7, XPro3 sized EVF, 5.76 res, dual card slot with XT4 battery would 100% make it on my shopping list.
@@robmcd I have an X100V and really like it. I agree both the battery and viewfinder could be bigger, but otherwise it's almost perfect for me. If they fitted the 40mp sensor in the next one, they could also go for a wider lens and exploit cropping. Your spec list sounds great, but price aside, I fear it would become too large and lose some of its charm.
Wait a minute, when you guys are reviewing Nikon, Canon, Sony that cost a fraction of what a Leica camera costs, you criticize so badly cameras with one card slot. With this camera, 1 USD card slot is now acceptable???
Fanboying, bigtime. lol
Oh, well... Leica, I guess you have to review this and other overpriced pieces of shit. Still a pleasure to watch your videos.
Overpriced sure, but definitely not POS. I'll never be able to get one though.
Still no internal storage or second card slot, resolution over readout speed, the flip out display not sitting flush with the body .... This seems misguided, to be honest. #NotMyQ
I was disappointed in the lack of built in memory.
@@niccollsvideo And the buttons left of the screen are gone as well. In Kai and Lok's video it is also more visible how badly the display is implemented. Very interested about your thoughts when the camera is out. Can't wait for the full review. ;)
I just keep an eye on these Leica cameras as they may offer clues to what future Panasonic cameras may offer.
Does it cost $1000M?
I read that as 1 thousand million dollars and honestly that's probably what it costs lmao
I'm really looking forward to the camera, even though I'll probably never be able to afford it.
Love the 28 mm focal length and with the 60 MP it just got better for more flexibility cropping in.
Do NOT buy Leica Q 1 2 or 3! They are such good examples of Leica picture quality, build and user experience that you will end up with buying 2 Leica Ms (one for film, one for digital), possibly Leica SL, and save up your money for Leica lens (Voigtlaender + Leica M is amazing though).
Would love to see pictures taken in near darkness, like at a concert or streetphoto at night, with super high ISO.
lots of downloads on the Leica site
Peter Mckinnon took it to a concert and took some nice low light shots in some difficult conditions. Check out his review.
SO glad you guys are still cranking on PetaPixel! I'd like to know about how effective the IBIS is with the 60MP sensor. Also, is there any benefit with the lower resolution settings because I understand it still uses the entire sensor. Does the camera pixel bin to have any improvement in dynamic range or noise in that case (if it does)?
(edit: it seems Leica might have confirmed a while back that on the M11 there's no benefit to dynamic range or noise when selecting a lower resolution…wonder if that's still the case with the Q3?)
(edit 2: Kai W reports that medium and small file sizes gets a 1 stop increase in dynamic range over large)
I see a lot of buyers remorse for people buying this camera. That price with a fixed 28mm…
At a 6k USD tag price, I would rather buy Nikon Z8 and Fujifilm X-S20 for my street photography...
I knew, I knew...I have to start "selling" this camera to my wife who, of course, wouldn't understand why I need yet another camera. I used to have the Q1 and loved it. Then I moved to the Sonys (which are more practical than any Leica) but the Q3 is a gem. Not only a great camera.
No interest in the camera, I'm just letting the video run, so I can support you since the switch to PetaPixel.
Waiting for the Q3 after loving the Q2M. HDMI out, well with no mic jack kind of funny. But it's a stills camera for me anyways. Time to sell some cameras :D
Fair play to Leica... they have survived the digital crisis and now they are well and truly a Veblen brand. They only have to do minimal upgrades and you will want it.
It's the way the entire consumer camera industry is going eventually (probably not to the same extreme prices)
Anyone in this Leica class were going to upgrade even if it had less features than the Q2 lol. From someone on the outside looking in this is just about the most soulless camera I've ever seen from Leica
this Q's are falling off the list everytime I see its 28mm focal length. everything between 21mm and 34mm isn't for me. Too bad they never try a model with a 35mm or, even better, a 50mm fixed lens... 🤷
6000$ price isn't stacked CMOS sensor..., its so pity
no sir, would never buy this thing over a gfx system, not worth it to me. Great video!
At that price, pretty sure there are some streets I wouldn't think of taking it down!!
I read the other day that Leica is really a Sony sensor in a Panasonic that's made in Germany with all the build quality the Germans give to the world. Still want one though LOL, but not for £6k
Sony makes the majority of camera sensors, Panasonic makes probably the best ergonomic cameras...those are not negatives
It's time for Ricoh to send a K3 Monocrome to Calgary. I want to see Chris giddy with monochrome excitement.
Surprisingly a lot of upgrades without exaggerated jump in price. But then, the price is already in a different category altogether 😅.
Sounds like a great camera! I'll send my butler to pick one up when it's released. I'll be the envy of all my incredibly wealthy chums at the club!
I understand that this is a pretty camera with some nice made in germany vibes, but seriously - 6k$ for a camera with a fixed lens, not so great AF, no full sensor 4k and basically 4 fps with continuous AF? I would prefer a modern Canon or Sony and get me a pair of nice crocodile leather boots instead, for the exclusive style. If Leica, then I would prefer an M-D for the fun factor. But this basically is a camera as any other, just with lower tech specs. I don't get the hype.
Will never be able to justify the cost of the Q's(a Leica M will always be the goal), but will always admire from afar
@@SomeDudeSomewhere 100% agree.
@@SomeDudeSomewhere i have an X-H1, and have previously owned an x-t30, Fuji's are great but I own a Leica M4 and used a Leica Q before in store, and I'm sorry, they're in another league to Fuji's offerings. Overpriced? Most definitely, but that's because they have literally zero competition
@@CianMcsweeney Yea Fuji is great not until the fix their crappy App. I’m using X100V, the App is the worst in the industry. But performance is great 👍🏼
@@SomeDudeSomewhere it's not about technical quality, nowadays any decent camera from the last 5 years is more than enough quality wise, it's about the experience of using the camera, something Fuji does better than most other manufacturers, but Leica is abother step up again
@@SomeDudeSomewhere and I disagree 🤷 there definitely are rich people who treat leicas as a fashion accessory and never actually use it, but it's also unquestionably true that they simply do certain things better than other brands: 1) Large optical viewfinder with a optical focus patch 2) 70 year lineup of high quality manual focus lenses, the lenses are also way smaller than even APSC lenses. 3) simple and intuitive physical and software controls. Now those things may not be important to you, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean that they are only "good because they cost a lot". The reason they were able to get away with charging so much in the first place is because they made a good product, the pricing *is* out of control, but it doesn't take away the actual tangible benefits the cameras have
I’m sorry I think this camera is toy for wealthy people for whom the cost is chump change and for desperate attention seekers who will starve to buy this camera on finance. Just so they can walk around going look at me look at me, after getting out of their expensive financed car that they also have to live in. All to give the impression they’ve made it lol. I’d rather a Sony A1 tbh or a Fuji or hasselblad medium format!.
It just baffles my mind how everyone is ok to give 6K on a camera with fixed lens. It's just stupid.
He calls it a Q2 in the opening 15 seconds… it is a Q3
I like Chris and Jordan more now they become Petapixies 😂
Too bad it has a 28 mm lens. If only it was a 35 mm 😉
Stop it... 😅
Where is the Review of all the new Fujifilm stuff which was released yesterday? At dpreview you postet often so many videos
Good review.
But was waiting for your review (or preview) of the Fujifilm X-S20, and...nothing. Fujifilm launch strategy for the X-S20 is weird, to say the least.
The best street photography camera I will never own.
Man, you Canadians are rough on your basketball nets! ;-). And, appreciate the way you've jazzed up the video production.
The greatest upgrade is it's price
Same overpriced thing.
Grapes are sour 😂😂😂 have you even touched this thing
Having taken early retirement, I got back into photography one year ago (after a long, long...long break). Chris's review of the Lumix FZ2500 was one of the first, and best, things I watched. Chris and Jordan as a pair are even better! Keep up the great work. 👍👍👍
Good choice, time is precious
@@klarkolofsson Thanks! You're referring to the FZ2500? If so, nice to have the corroboration - I've read lots of reviews of this camera, nearly all of which praise the video capabilities of the FZ2500, and which, while they're complimentary, are less effusive about it's performance as a stills camera. Having owned it for a year, I have to say that I am very happy with it. Certainly I could spend three times the money and get something superior...but I'd have to spend three times the money!
I was a bit confused as to how 5.76M Dot EVF == 1600 x 1200 but it is perhaps a ECX339A OLED Microdisplay (or something similar). The Resolution is described as UXGA（1600×RGB×1200). To me this feels like it is really just a 1.92M dot EVF albeit an especially nice OLED display...
When the resolution is specified in dots, it is the number of sub-pixels which are each either red, green or blue (or sometimes other sets of colors are used). One pixel is usually composed of three sub-pixels. 1600*1200*3=5760000
@@MichaelSchagen I get it and I agree but if someone described my 4K OLED TV as a 24,883,200 dot display it would feel to me like a a bit of a marketing swizz although technically accurate.
You two guys are the only one I'll watch about this and any other camera. And Chris's Fishing channel. Wonderful Job!
Petapixel got 100k subs in like 3.5 hours. Kudos to Chris & Jordan
I'm still shooting with the original Q and it's fine. Thank you very much...
You are basically paying 6k for a lens and a red logo, nice
Dangkal
Leica Q series are the worst in ergonomics : too heavy and definitely need a thumb rest
2:18 That fantastic 28mm lens is the best 26mm lens Leica ever built: I did a comparison between my Q and a friend's Batis 25, and it turns out the outputs were almost identical.
Leica, If you want to really tempt those of us who haven’t bought into a Leica please please please offer a version with a 35-40mm lens. Zooming in with the step crops, as this model allows, is not the same.
28 - it's too wide...35 would be ideal...
Really hope they backtrack on no onboard memory by release. At this price and with the precedent set by the M11, it should be there.
A single slot SD card? No CF express? And no internal memory? Shame on you Leica!!!!
Hey I managed to get a Q3 but going to go back to my M11, anyone want to buy mine?
Damn, I was hoping to find reason why I wouldn’t want to upgrade my Q2 to Q3, but that tilt screen and new focusing are hard to resist.
I found the perfect reason to update my original Q!
I thought I would need to upgrade until I realized it's all the same cr@p.
Probably will upgrade my Q-P to a Q3 but definitely ain’t selling my original.
I want the SL3 with this sensor out ASAP!
There is an L-mount with a probable version of this sensor - i.e. the Sigma fp L.
Great video buy. But best street camera is still the X100V for function and price. People also forget with Leica gear is the place you take great street photos are often not places you want to be at night with 6-15k of camera gear in your hand.
Nice, I have my RX1R for this use and still have no plan to s pm urge anything even remotely close to a Leica price but man... We need more of this type of camera
This thing is not worth 6000$ unless you earn that money using it.
For that price, there seems like a lot of caveats and compromises. Leica could have probably charged $1000 more if the EVF resolution didn’t drop during focusing and the video modes weren’t full of asterisks. And for $6000 it should have zero asterisks on the spec sheet.
Leica should let me try it to see if it's worth upgrading my a6000 😆
Please make initial review for: EOS R100 and X-S20. Thank you.
We’re you able to test long exposure? Does it still have ISO/time limitations?
We'll test that with the production model.
-Jordan
Another terrible review. Don’t waste your time.
Where is your review of the Fuji X-S20??
Would love to hear more about the video functionality - we've recorded separately for years! It has a scratch track - so bingo!
why no fujifilm x-s20 review?
Fuji X-S20 next please!
Running so fast the fence was bending… Jordon is an impressive athlete for sure
Best intro ever. When You consider a upper end Mirrorless from Canon, Sony or Nikon with a fast prime and You are at about the same money. Maybe it's time for a Leica for Me.
So great seeing Leica forge ahead with cutting edge technology; phase detect autofocus..wow. some people and animal detection "seems to be pretty effective" ..."tracking seems to be quite sticky....would never have used it on the Q2"
12 frames/sec max electronic shutter, but no C.AF.😵💫
At this rate they'll soon be able to charge as much as other cameras.....wait, what?
$10,000 Australian???
No coverage of the X-S20 guys? Would be interesting to see it from you
Dang. No Fujifilm XS20 review??
Hi Chris and Jordan 🙂. ooh, you buried the lead on this video. Y'all got to keep puppet Jordan!!!!! I hope puppet Chris will be able to join the channel at some point too.
47MP is overkill and 60MP make files go huge, most will choose 36MP for daily use so 47MP is fine still. Wireless charging and USB charging, charging using a dock is actually good for the battery health since heat gets dissipate outside the camera. Never needing a flip screen since 28 is wide enough and post crop and leveling is possible in digital age. The flip screen is a let down, not sitting flush like the X100V, Leica can do better I believe by letting the screen protruded, which imo looks bulky and less aesthetically appealing. I hope the connector door is metal instead of plastic dangling. Those buttons all moved to the right and I’m not sure how many people will accidentally trigger them with their palm when holding with their right hand.
Please, please, please test the heck out of that AF. I'd love to know how it compares to the Q2 as well as Sony, Canon, etc.
Where is the Q3 monochrome?!
I had not heard of Petapixel until these two moved over.
Sony A7C II should be broadly similar with interchangeable lenses and mic input of course. Crossing fingers
Great videos by the way. Keep them coming. You are on fire…..
I recently got a Summicron C 40mm f2 for my budget Leica (a7c) set up. I can't see a reason to upgrade my a7c yet,such a great camera as is.
@@0action847 agreed. I would venture to guess Sony product managers are discussing options with folks like us trying to find what would entice us into upgrade.
I love my A7C it is truly do it all camera. It works as webcam. It works as photo camera. It works for travel. It works for arranged photo shoots.
I am thinking of few things that would make it better. 40+ MP would be nice. Fast full electronic shutter like ZV-E1 or A9. Slightly bigger EVF with higher resolution, higher res rear screen.
My oh my …. Six grands for a red dot 🤔
Jordan are you using every prime lens in the Lumix kit? This video looks great
Thanks Tyler! This was actually shot with just the lovely Panasonic 24-70mm F2.8. Still my favourite standard zoom out there.
-Jordan
Pre-ordered this camera at my local camera shop. Hopefully my wife let’s me buy it when they give me a call. Lol
Doesn't the Q3 60MP sensor actually allow you to crop in-camera to 90mm?
instead of XS20 i got Q3.
Jesus you two are fast with this, very nice! 😊
Well the Q(1) had a better performance in low lighting, I have the Q2 and I've seen it doesnt do as well as the Q1 in low light, and now with the Q3 now having 60MP I'm sure it won't be better in low lighting, I thought they were going back to less MP to be honest. The only Thing I would have loved is Type C charging for when traveling, the hdmi out is definitely overkill specially considering the screen tilts now.
Excited the Q3 is out. I hope to pick one up in Octoberish.
(cough)fujifilms20(cough)
what about Fuji xs20 ??
Omg golden axe!!!🎉🎉🎉
I'd very much like integrated storage + a lens that isn't effectively a digitally-corrected fisheye (impacts edges). Overall though, wow.
Still using the original Q. Dont feel the need to get the Q2 or Q3, despite the possibility to have better rsolution on crop mode is cool. But other than that, I think Ill still keep the Q for now. Waiting for the Q2 used market does its things as it did with the Q :)
Thank you for the review. I stick with the "normal" Q since this is enough for my purpose.
Awesome, as usual. Shows like this are what makes RUclips worth watching.
Amazing camera but my Q2M ain't going anywhere! 😉
all I can say is thank you. and then the next camera comes out
I would have thought that wireless charging might have warranted a mention. Yes you need the optional grip (which is an even better hand hold IMHO) but that's still very cool.
I don’t think it’s the BEST street camera, however it’s the MOST expensive street camera!
And is this truth, actually its a zoom lens. Because you have this crop functions (windows) and with the 60MP pixels you can crop to like 50mm or 70mm and thats the same like using a 50mm or 70mm lens. Am I right?