I have friends that are retired military that went into contracting for a short time. They made enough money to fund businesses and setup their family and got out. They have some unbelievable stores.
@@Arcideeznuts I work for a security agency right now and the pay is great. I only worked 3 months this year and I spent the rest of the year with family. Easy business to get into and a great business to get into. I suggest looking into what skills you have and perhaps take a small private firearms course. When you build up the firearm skills and some basic tactics then find out what the best local agency is and apply. I would suggest working as much as possible the first year like I did and start a few small businesses to keep yourself floating when work starts to dry up. I should also note that you should only take contracts you are prepared to fill out in full.
@@anthonyyoung6433 you're right; investors will wait until after Bezos dies beforehand Amazon becomes the world's largest supplier of firearms. Then the PMC-lites will come.
Well considering you dont have to be saluting anyone necessarily and just get paid 3x and you arent just rushing to wait but instead actually doing something i can see why people would want to be PMC:s instead.
Hideo Kojima talked about this in the 90s. Proxy wars fought with corporate hands. PMC vs military is like professional girlfriends vs marriage. With one you’re getting what you’re paying for w/o bs. The other is a lot of romance.
Probably the best description on the table. Will we as a species transcend our primal urges of conquest by any means necessary. Or are we doomed to forever repeat History.
I did overseas security contracting for 16 years, it was interesting work to say the least. As General Mattis once said, speak only when spoken to, be honest and firm, but have a viable plan to kill everyone in the room if things go south, lol.
I was in Iraq in 2004 as a Contractor. We were well paid, equipment with plenty of brand new gear / ammo and lived in the old Baghdad Hotel which had seen better days but served as a compound for Contractors and also Military who were on a little R&R. All of my team members were vets (Marine / Army) and appreciated the mission we were on. We were treated well and allowed to shop at the PX's on forward bases. We did get some odd stares and looks at our appearance and weapons we were carrying but there were never any problems with anyone in the Military unless you count the time a young Army LT questioned our right to shop at the PX. After trying to "pull rank" on us and then realizing that we were A - much older then he was and B -" respectfully" showing that we were not really willing to listen to him nor did he have any authority over us, he went away upset and complaining. As an act of good faith we did however fill up the back of his Humvee, when he was inside the PX, with all of our fast food trash! That was a rare occasion, in fact we often provided some Military guys with new magazines (M4 & Beretta) since some of theirs were pretty beat up and we had a ton of them. . Good Pay and Good Food, all in all a good time!!!
I am from Thailand 🇹🇭 what i know about pmc is that they have broken several laws in Iraq. They act like bad gangsters. They do not honor ordinary Iraqis, they sometimes kill innocents, women and children. It is not uncommon for Iraqis to take guns and kill mercenaries.
@Sonny No, I paraphrase other peoples words. As I'm not trying to be some swanky old school hipster. Or what ever character your trying to play over the internet. Boom!
Because "Blackwater" got expelled from Iraq after killing a family they suspected to be insurgents tailing them. Most PMC's I've met are the type of guys I wouldn't want in my squad.
Drago 30,000 im not sure either, from what i read they have converted over to training from the looks but im sure they run covert ops without us knowing
Just remember too a PMC may be the dude repairing your air conditioner at your base. I knew a few that worked alongside the Australian Defence Force who were electricians and their job was repairing facilities.
It’s weird whenever i watch your video, you remind me of my grandpa. He fought in the Vietnam war but not for the American but for the VietCong since we’re Vietnamese. Whenever i was watching something about military, he always have something interesting to say. He passed away few years ago. I kept coming to your channel just for the same feeling xD
your words kill my brain cells. "not for the American but for the VietCong since we're Vietnamese" do you have any idea that there were Vietnamese fighting for Vietnam yet also fought along with the American?
Lou g Xx11 I would agree also in the aspect of politics and roe. But what if these guys behead a guy for looking at them the wrong way? No one is accountable and the media pounces on it like they did blackwater and ruins it for everybody.
I was a chef contracted to work in Camp Julian in Afghanistan. Helped dj on the base radio as well. Running joke was you could tell how good a chef was by how big his security detail was. It waa the closest i think ive come to celebrity status in my Chef career😆
Oh man, if I was offered what the Taliban was given, I definitely would give it some thought, at least. You realize how stupidly rich some of those terrorists are going to be, when they realize the price tag on some of that stuff?
You've improved a lot with your videos Jameson. I love how much insight and information you now offer in your videos when you pause it, as well as the respect you give to all of the subject matter. It's great stuff.
Loyalty to Whom ? Regular Army's are Loyal to the Governments whom care soo much, that will pay them Minimum wages. or try to find excuses and dont pay ,if you die in action. Mercenaries use Better Equipments and the Payment is way better .
@@badb0x FYI, the US military doesn't pay minimum wage. The housing options may not be far from section 8; but when you combine all the benefits it generally starts at around $35,000 for someone straight out of basic.
@@Crazt 35k per annum . long waiting list for Promotions . yet they dont Know that many brands pay x2 x4 per annum . if you show skills you will be given Missions "security" than the Payment goes Higher . I dont Believe that 100% of the Regular Army ,Join because they're Patriots. Few are Patriots, Few are there For the Rush and MANY for the money . Best Choices you can make in the Army is Skills : Driver , Electrician , Communications ETC . and yet as Mercenary you can pay yourself for skills (if) you have the time . the Army Protect the Government , Mercenaries anyone who pays .
Privateers used to be a lot more common in the 18th-19th centuries. Britain would hire pirates to raid french trading vessels and vice versa entire armies were hired to fight, lay siege, or overthrow kingdoms
“Private Military Contractor” is just the PC term for the word “Mercenary.” Whether for good or bad, soldiers for hire is as old as war itself. Some even call it the “2nd occupation”, and the 1st occupation helped with the 2nd.
@Christian Morgan yeah from my understanding a mercenary is just payed to do single jobs, whereas pmcs are on salary and are employed under certain companies. So mercenaries own themselves whereas a pmc has a direct boss, I think, I may be wrong though.
@Christian Morgan Gosh, your inability to communicate meaningfully is as embarrassing as your lack of reading comprehension. Are variations on, >No, u stoopid, me not stooped! Say smart thing I can also understand or you stoopid! really the best you can do? If I've used a fallacy, you should be able to point out and name it, shouldn't you? Never heard of the fallacy fallacy have you, eh? It takes more than pulling out and misusing that magic word to win an argument, mate. What exactly is intellectually dishonest about contradicting your error while providing a source? I'd say It looks almost as if you're projecting, but the "almost" wouldn't be intellectually honest.
The only difference is that governments commit military crimes using taxpayer's money, to fullfil what a politician thought was good, and Private Security Forces commit them pursuing a private's interest.
I work for a military contracting business (not a 'door kicker' - I do security training consulting and quality oversight for foreign contracts, basically making sure the level of training is consistent). I don't think people realise quite how much of overseas government interventions are outsourced. It is just cost effective. Some believe the government wastes money on contractors because they just see how much they are paid. However contractors are only paid when on a task. The government doesn't have to pay them when not deployed, pay for accommodation in peacetime, pay for training, pay pensions, pay for food, administrate them etc. It costs a lot if money to keep an army full time, especially when they are not being used. Short term outsourcing is simply a better use of tax payers money.
I wouldn't say its morally wrong because when you may be a pmc doing security for a ship nothing morally wrong with that it all comes down to circumstances and what your doing
@@jmasik100 indeed they do help the US army a lot but what i get from your comment is that you think they are not mercenaries which they are. Im not questioning their skill or experience some of them come from the most elite branches of the military. Doesnt change the fact that they work for a private corporation as long as America can pay the price they will do the job but what if America cant and someone else can. PMC are not a problem when used on a small scale of escort and protection but when they run the logistics to your army and even become the main fighting force in your army that is when it becomes a slippery road. Its not at that point where they are the main fighting force but it is starting to get there which is the main concern
I worked as a Contractor in Iraq (2004) and never had a problem with anyone on our side. Worked with Army & Marines all doing the same job. The Military used our headquarters as an R&R location, we had very big pool and great barbeques! We were all Veterans and some had LE Experience on Tactical Teams. No one was a "hotdog" or acted like a jerk. We carried out our assignments as Professionals and did so as quietly as possible. The money was good and the conditions much better than the average grunt was used to. Most everyone we "transported" was very grateful and thanked us. We did get some strange looks at the PX or when stopping on a base, but we never felt disrespected. Mine was not a UN Mission. I was told that doing a contract for a UN Mission was much more restrictive in use of force. By the way, you are 100% correct about the loss of life as a Contractor. Not reported as much nor as big of a deal if it was a Military member killed. I will also tell you that while we had several females wash out during training, they seemed to re-appear once in country as office personne.
I know a former policeman here in Northern Ireland went to Iraq to do private security, he was earning over £100k per year. Police from here were highly sought after due to the anti terrorist experience they had during the troubles
@@hansstrudel9614 to some extent maybe, they worked in cells of 4 or 5 and worked in ordinary jobs then did their dirty work in the shadows, they are/were scum, not freedom fighters like some would make them out to be
Glenn Purdy scum indeed child killers ! That said during doc i watched from a high up British army officer did say the south armagh brigade esp where very capable & smart people .. his words not mine lol .. thank God its mostly gone & the youth carry on with no bitterness
@@makaveli88888 they did have some skills and were well organised but scum nonetheless, unfortunately there's a generation of keyboard ira warriors coming through now
i was a marine(E-5) 0311, combat tour in Iraq 2004 to 2005, got back from iraq in april of 2005 and was back in iraq by jan 2006 with Cochise Consultancy(DOD Contract) protecting engineers dismantling ASP's. Jan 2008 i started with black water(DOS contract) in Baghdad, Kabul, and Israel. Little time with Tripple Canopy after BW lost the contract in Baghdad then SOC LLC at the end of my time in Israel before i went home on medical leave in feb 2018. Personal experience, BW was one of the best companies i ever worked for. Best gear, Training and air support in Baghdad and back then most guys were ex special forces or combat vets (army and marines). Some of the best combinations of guys i worked with. Best analogy i could compare it to is if regular army and marine corps was high school football, then working for black Water was Division 1 football. In high school you have a handful of good players on teams, but at the Division 1 college level every player is a good player and your ability to operate at a higher level is realized. Anytime your dealing with a large pool of Alpha male types your going to have some situations here and there but thats just par for the course. For the most part if guys were legit they had no problems, but if your were a hot head or a whiner you didn't last long. When some asks me about it i usually know within a couple minutes whether or not they know any real details about contracting or if they are just regurgitating some left wing rant. At the end of the day, Black Water never lost a client, we did however loose many men to uphold that level of operation Tempo.
@Crypto MERC I did not want to doubt the fact, that you did loose many men, rather than emphasize that fact. It is barely discussed in the media and I wanted to point that out. This is information that needs to find its way into mainstream media so the public can understand the full cost of such enterprises and their service. Mainly the cost in human lives, in traumatized contractors and in weakening of the regular forces by enticing many top notch soldiers to work for private companies. It seems to me that starting a debate about this subject is really difficult. My thought was that your last sentence should become viral, so people start thinking about it. Kind of a proposal for a meme or something like that.
With the military training and boot camps getting softer in this country I can see PMC's becoming even more important to fill a lot of rolls and their training and selection processes becoming the gold standard at some point.
I’d love to join a PMC if it was fair pay and the mission was morally proper as it could be for the dangerous job that it is. I could’ve been on my way doing it now if I had join the army before compiling a criminal record (finally have turned my life around now) then I would’ve been joining a PMC seeing that they only put you in combat roles unless you have military or law enforcement training. They don’t want to pay to train from the ground up but if they wanted to I’d go right in especially seeing how soft the military is these days. There’s a war that can be fought for the people and still be profitable.
My first job when I got back (and out) in 2004 was working for a company climbing cell towers... Bechtel ran the project and loved vets because "they show up on time" lol. After a few months doing it I had a visit from a guy on a site who tried to recruit me to their company (name withheld) to be security for the contractors (Bechtel) that were going over to Iraq to start building towers. This was in 05. I couldn't believe how this guy knew my name and everything and was really trying to sell the job to me. I found out later..I think about 6 months or so that some Bechtel guys got beheaded or something over and their escorts were ambushed. Crazy stuff man... seeing this makes it even crazier because companies like Bechtel wanted to be the first to put up those towers right in the middle of a warzone...that money was a big deal for them...so they hired out PMC (the best known) to do the nasty work. The money offered wasn't anything in paper but I remember him telling me I could clear anywhere from 20-30k a month mostly tax free depending on position. I didn't didn't even think twice...I liked my job here. They sent me Christmas emails for like 2 years straight after that...kind of creepy.
Commonwealth and USA taxpayers pay for their military training..in our regular forces. It's been happening since classical times. A couple of my mates worked for PMC's and got rich quick.. then, being squaddies, they drank it 😛
This doesn't surprise me at all. I know some guys that got injury settlements from duty in Iraq (one was shot by a sniper in the arm...it was fucking gnarly). One of them blew it on literal hookers and blow. I don't know what he's up to these days but I'm pretty sure within 6 months to a year around 70k was gone in smoke.
It's basically hiring a gang of trained killers to protect your interests. They are working for you, which makes them good, but they are a gang of killers, which is bad. Hence good bad guys.
I have 2 friends who were in the Australian SAS and both ended up leaving for a PMC. The work was a lot safer, the money was WAY better, they could essentially pick and choose what they felt comfortable doing, the standard of living while away was way better (hotel rooms, private quarters, safe houses), they could request any equipment they wanted and decide how long they wanted to stay, when to go on leave and for how long... it's all negational. A lot of these guys have young families so to be able to work 6 weeks away and 2 weeks back for say a 4 month term and make more cash that they would being deployed for a year seems a no brainer. And the money is international so they help them set up their finances to minimize and taxes so the take home percentage is way better too. They were home more than they were away by choice. Now as a society, seems pretty wrong to use PMC's in the way they can be and feel that there needs to be some strict rules on what PMC can and can't do and these need to be enforced or this is going to get way out of hand.
There used to be a Department of War (Army) and Department of the Navy. When they were merged, it became Defense. I used to think the same thing you did, but it turns out it wasn't for nefarious or underhanded reasons.
@@ethicalcheeze1407 NP man, I literally always thought the same thing you did and decided to see when they did it. Then I found there were separate departments for army and navy that were combined to defense and felt kinda dumb, but learning something new is always a good thing.
@@tomwilson6330 "An Act to promote the national security by providing for a Secretary of Defense; for a National Military Establishment; for a Department of the Army, a Department of the Navy, a Department of the Air Force; and for the coordination of the activities of the National Military Establishment with other departments and agencies of the Government concerned with the national security." - National Security Act of 1947 It split the War Department into the Departments of the Army and Airforce (creating the Airforce in the process), and combined them with the Department of the Navy under the new Department of Defense.
I’d argue the proto early Roman Empire, each senator would raise their own “legions” often each dramatically different and that legion held allegiance to that senator. Basically private armies this was before the first emperor but explains a lot of their civil wars and famously mercenary’s exist in Greek tales/legends so Ancient Greece had private military groups. Smaller scale then The proto Roman legions but still just shows this is a practice since the ancient times.
@@chrisspink8873 True, when I hear "Private Military" my first thought is "a company fighting for wealth" and that's essentially what the Knights Templar morphed into. I'm not sure if there were any ancient militia type groups that became so rich that they were actively hunted down/killed/disbanded as was the case for the Knights Templar?
Movies from the 80s and 90s where police was privately funded or private armies seemed laughable or unrealistic...but actually weren’t than far from future real life. The main issue is accountability. Someone has to monitor all this or it could go to far.
I saw plenty of PMCs in Baghdad, Iraq. Always so them driving off in convoys to go to the range. The loadouts they were using made my teammates and I jealous
Love the way you engage the community by asking us for our opinion after every time you pause a video to make a point. Very inclusive to having a mature discussion on a so many variables. Keep up the good work sir. Oorah
Just gonna say this, if you want less PMCs, then maybe you should push for the better treatment of military personnel like better pay and benefits. EDIT: given the amount of replies i realize i shouldve clarified that i definitely dont expect this to be the best or most practical solution if it can even be considered one. Maybe we got other aspects to consider. I just wanted to point out that if there's somebody who's gonna say "get rid of PMCs" they might want to think why anybody ends up needing them in the first place, and that getting rid of them CANNOT be the only thing they think about.
I really appreciated your nuance take on this. Easy to jump on a side, but refreshing to see someone on the internet provide a deconstructed review step by step. Thanks man, best of luck.
At least PMCs in America isn't as armed as the ones in Africa with there own Mi-24 Hinds and T-62 MBTs. Though the Warlords there are just as dangerous or even more.
When watching this video I was reminded of a speech from Demosthenes where he warned about mischievous mercenaries. To counter bad behavior he argued for a minimum amount of Athenians within the ranks to oversee and control the hired help. "But ever since your mercenaries have gone to war alone, they have been vanquishing your friends and allies, while your enemies have become unduly great." (First Philippic, 24). So the use of mercenaries , as said in the video, is old as war itself, but also the issues surrounding it.
I've been around "pmc's" for 30 years now. One of my in-laws is a Vietnam era marine scout sniper. he's been involved with them since the late 1970s -early 80s. From private contractor protecting foriegn dignitaries, to writing/editing for SOF magizine, running his own training camp just down the road a few miles, to military advisor during the El Salvadoran civil war. My son is currently serving as a Calvary Scout to "earn his bones" (credentials) to work as a PMC after his enlistment. Simply put the money is astronomically better working as a PMC vrs serving in the traditional military. The equipment is better, rules of engagement are less restrictive, which lowers risk. The military has just become a place to build a skill set and get experience needed to be hired where the real money is.
PMC’s, like SF units, are scalpels. Big Armies are chainsaws. Both are good at what they do, but the very precise work is best handled by those top tier gents. Many times, removing the leadership of an enemy is the best way to limit the loss of life for all sides. Leaders who survive know how to isolate and protect themselves through special protection details interspersed with the public so that the high probability of innocent casualties wouldn’t make kinetic action favorable. To me, PMCs serve a vital but dark role. To win any war, you must defeat your enemy. PMCs help to accomplish that mission.
I'm PRO PMC they protect our maritime vessels when they cross or at least come close to hot zones in the sea. I would love to have them on board when pirates start to attack our ship.
The thing is the pmc's probably seem like a better target than the people they are protecting. Big guys with sunglasses, big guns and big vehicles is asking for trouble
@@katarishigusimokirochepona6611 from a technical standpoint, yes. But that still doesn't mean that I want an American to be left to be tortured and/or killed because they were captured. I would hope that we at least try to get them back from their captors. Are you suggesting that you could care less if theyre tortured?
@@kidzbop38isstraightfire92 From a human standpoint, I care a great deal. But in terms of command or geopolitics? It totally defeats the purpose of deniable covert operations to go overtly rescue an operator. Combat involves risk. If we can’t accept that risk, then we shouldn’t be involved in combat.
@@kidzbop38isstraightfire92 Considering that the main "benefit" of mercenaries is that they can get away with war crimes, then no I don't feel sorry for them.
Macchiavelli said it best in The Prince: “There are three types of armies: a prince’s own troops, mercenary troops, and auxiliary troops. Mercenary and auxiliary troops are useless and dangerous. Mercenaries are “disunited, undisciplined, ambitious, and faithless.” Because their only motivation is monetary, they are generally not effective in battle and have low morale. Mercenary commanders are either skilled or unskilled. Unskilled commanders are worthless, but skilled commanders cannot be trusted to suppress their own ambition. It is far more preferable for a prince to command his own army. Historically, dependence on mercenaries ruined Italy. During the breakup of Italy, which the Church supported in hopes of increasing its own stature, many townships hired mercenaries because they had little experience in military matters. Since the mercenaries were more concerned with increasing their own prestige and status than with taking risks or accomplishing military objectives, the conflicts between these mercenary forces devolved into a series of ineffective, staged, pseudo-battles, ultimately degrading Italy’s political and military might. Summary - Chapter XIII: Concerning Auxiliary, Mixed, and Native Forces Auxiliary troops-armies borrowed from a more powerful state-are as useless as mercenaries. Although they often fight well, a prince who calls on auxiliaries places himself in a no-win situation. If the auxiliaries fail, he is defenseless, whereas if the auxiliaries are successful, he still owes his victory to the power of another. Auxiliary troops are often skilled and organized, yet their first loyalty is to another ruler. Thus, they pose an even more dangerous threat to the prince than mercenaries.” This is a summary but having read the book, I can attest the argument remains the same.
Damn I can just imagine two mercenary bands just faking fighting to keep getting paid by their villages because if they actually fought and a side won they wouldn't have been needed to be around and thus no pay in the future, that and nobody wants to die if they don't have to.
Kinda like how in Orwell's 1984 Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia fight endless wars against each other. They are not meant to be won, they are meant to be continuous. To keep their own stability from the masses they must have an enemy to distract them from their horrible lives and to justify why they have such poor living conditions because supposedly materials must be diverted to the war effort which intentionally doesn't advance too far to win. That is if there even is combat or a war at all, or if East Asia or Eurasia are real because we only see the perspective of an Oceanian civilian, which suggests that Oceania may be the only one of the three superpowers to actually exist and that they are made up.
He picked many things from conspiracy theories from the real world and placed them on his games. The Patriots are basically A.I. illuminaties and the philosophers or ciphers. Plus crypto currencies and many more things.
@@dra6o0n to a certain extent in regards to contractors PMC will continue to thrive but so will the conventional military. PMC excel at these low intesity wars where the idea is day to day security or support missions. However the conventional military has the appropriate size and funding to conduct deterence the big wars the near peer adversaries and will still fight in low inteaity because they can operate expensive assets such as carriers, sophisticated air forces, keyhole military satellite networks, SOSUS, etc. These assets are way to expensive for any private business even PMCs to want operate because they are real cash drains its not profitable and that is where the convetional come in because they are government and have different spending habits. Private and government spend money very differently because they have different missions and ways to go about it.
Military/law enforcement here as well over 30 years. Also about to leave my LEO job after 18 yrs. I also thought about PMC but I more on the nah. I choose life over money!
If you study history. You'd know that nations who heavily rely on either conscripts or mercenaries tend to do very poorly against nations who are fighting for their homeland. The willingness to fight is absolutely critical when it comes to winning wars.
Roman empire collapsed when they filled the legions with immigrants. Along with the devalued currency and house wives not playing out their traditional roles holding the home down.
FarmersAreCool what are you talking about? the fall of the Roman Empire was corruption, infighting and bureaucracy. A slow death over hundreds of years.
@@tbates2819 Devalued coinage, inflation forced military expansion, military expansionism turned inward against the citizenry, as there is only so big a balloon will inflate, just like now, only now is accelerated, taking everyones guns, collapsing all institutions and the rise of the New Word Order of transnational unaccountable corporations.
@@FarmersAreCool Agree, those things all probably contributed as I mentioned above. And yes I'm sure you can draw some parallels to whats happening today. However going back to your original point. "Roman empire collapsed when they filled the legions with immigrants." Is an incorrect statement. Rome had "non-Romans" and mercenaries in their ranks since the around 200 B.C or near the second punic war. On top of that Rome used citizenship, quite successfully, on conquered states to quell rebellions and make people feel apart of the empire. After this point Rome continued to grow in power for another 300 odd years or so.
It was actually a major issue for armies working with Mercenaries in Europe during the later part of the middle ages and early stage of the 30 years war. Mercenaries would often be hired and rehired between two sides constantly upbidding each other. It was also common for mercenaries to be paid off before a battle. Not to switch sides, but to simply take the stack of money and leave.
Happens a lot of Bangladesh I heard which is why the government has designated a paramilitary to guard all vips, preventing all private security from getting any work
@JA9669 If you want the real mercenary experience you should go to northern Syria or Africa. I guarantee you won't describe actual mercenary armies as "good and selfless".
JA9669 yeah the last contractors i jave seen were fireing guns on civilians from some roof top for fun...they were called blacked water and now they are called academia
Good thing or bad thing, there's no question that this is as old as time. The world's second oldest profession, if you will. Mercenaries have long saved kings and emperors the expense of keeping massive standing armies, whether they were needed or not. Hire armies when you need them, don't when you don't. This comes with it's own set of problems historically, but that's the way it's always been and the way it will always be.
Russians used PMC’s in Syria that attacked US ground units. I remember reading a news article awhile back that we took out about 50 of them without suffering any casualties after they engaged our soldiers on the ground.
this brain drain: PMCs poaching from special forces and specialized units either police or military, is still a problem, in particular in less wealthy countries. and to honest, i can't blame those guys
@Dias06 yup you're totally correct I'm clueless . I forgot you talking about Supper Heroes , they never Die or get Captured "for Minimum wages" If I die , I prefer to be for Something more than Pride and Feelings . take you Medals and stick them on the Wall, do the same with you Knowledge .
"I capitani di ventura" the history of mercenary force is so interesting I hope some day to study it , groups of homeless and retired veterans stick together ready to fight for some Rich landowner, how many good story we can find in this company ? Italy was reunited by a captain of fortune
I'm probably biased, as I haven't had any pleasant encounters with PMC's. So yeah, I've always been heavily against them, the lack of accountability and everything that comes with that. Plus, the 'bad apples' of the armed forces seem to flock to them.
Hmm...they're a bit cocky and were all once combat experienced soldiers, paratroopers, Rangers, Marine Recon, or Spec Ops. They don't have to answer to just ANY rank of the US military. Of course you have to be professional but to kiss their ass - fuck no. PMC don't answer to or go to parade rest for the US Military.
@@robtriton From what I've experienced, many of them sign up (in a war zone) so they can have more "freedom to do what they want", and earn some nice money to boot. They don't do it because they want to make a difference, most are fed up with the politics of the military. I completely get that, but joining a PMC (in a war zone) isn't the answer, it actually makes things much worse if you ask me. Having served in the Dutch military, we responded to a firefight near Kamp Holland. What happened? A bunch of idiots form a PMC were "testing" their weapons on a bunch of camels... I've heard stories of them being in areas they had no business in and the actual military wondering if it were militia forces. From my perspective PMC's in general do much more harm than good.
I have honorable discharge, many awards, decorated soldier now pMC. Lol only bad apples flock to them. How about it’s a good paying job for the skill set I have. You’re just mad bc you couldn’t get hired
@@reynaldorivera7641 Many "awards"? Seriously, calling them awards is enough to factually state you're full of shit. =D And then you try to be all cool with your many awards and decorated soldier. No soldier does that, stolen valor right here.
@@GuyFromTheSouth I am a retired Army nurse , now a defense contractor flight nurse; I have not had to pull a trigger in my 24 years career. If you choose to be a grunt; don't complain about the low pay; but for military contractor, it's still better than most civilian jobs out there.
Sell Swords. Hired Hand. Bought Blade. Some Viking bands became contractors for Kings whose land they were pillaging. Now they got pay instead of loot, and all the perks they already enjoyed, like loot; just to head down the road and raid the Kings enemies. Good business.
The real danger is that those companies become richer and more powerfull every year and they will soon be so powerfull that they will have big influence on some goverments and some really important institusions in a civil life. Another dangerus fact is that not only private sector hires them but also some goverments who need to do the job without getting dirty hands.
There's already companies that have dangerous influence on the government, it's been happening forever. How do you think the government was initially formed & funded? Nothing's ever been straight, there's always going to be people with agendas & making things happen behind closed doors, the only difference is now we're beginning to get a clearer picture of history & discover the trail that's been left behind & it's finally shedding light on the dark but at the same time regardless of what we know, the sad truth is, more likely than not, nobodies going to do anything about it
When I was in Iraq in 2009 our security forces went from legit Tongan Marines guarding our installation, to PMCs being manned by Ugandan nonmilitary security guards. Thankfully they were cool and whatnot, but it was weird to go from a legit military to a private company providing security for us at the Baghdad International Airport.
As a contractor, I just want to say the ROE is much more stringent than it was for me as a Marine in Iraq or Afghanistan. The legal ramifications for taking any shot is drastically different. As for the question of loyalty, all contracts are in support of US government and 99.9 % of those working today (for ever shrinking amounts) are prior military and their loyalty to our nation's interest is top notch and would never work for an enemy of our nation.
Sounds like you havent read a book on the atrocities of war that the opposing forces may use, that the us military cant do much against bc they have to abide by ROE and nato/un rules.
Sid Vyas the real war crime is putting the lives of others over the lives of your own men. The ROEs were ridiculous!! Some still are. That’s why we’ve been there for 20 years and still haven’t won and won’t win. Because of the lawyers and politicians who put our guys in impossible situations. We didn’t have that problem in WW2. That’s why we won. And we won’t win again until our leaders come to the realization that civilians die in war and that is unavoidable. Especially when your enemies use them as human shields. Hope that answers your question.
@@ReneMacias1978 maybe you havent won that war because you should never have been there in the first place. why did you guys go to iraq and afghanistan?! The sauds paid for it and did 911 yet you attacked 2 other countries...
I am such a fan of your channel, there are so many "reaction" channels who just sit there and watch the damn video and laugh every once in a while and add nothing valuable to the video. Every time you pause the video to say something its always a valuable correction or peice of information and on top of it you really know what your talking about and it shows! keep up the great work 💪
Yeah and the UN of course didn't like that they succeeded and made the UN look incompetent and after when the UN forced EO out of Sierra Leone and replaced them with a UN Peacekeeping force, after 100 days or so when EO left the fighting started again. Never trust the UN
@@Crackshotsteph I know some of the mercenaries who fought in sierra leone. They are some of the best on the planet even now that they are getting older.
The Templars were the first global PMC's in Europe during the medieval period and had the worlds first official Branded Logo. They did everything from Private Security to Debt collection, most notably when they were hired by France and England to protect pilgrims heading to the holy land, over time they expanded their monopoly over other sectors of business, they gave loans, rented out property and had a massive logistical system for the disruption and sale of food&water. They were absolute genius's with recruitment, Devout Follower's joined for Religious reasons, Soldiers joined for wealth, Knights looking to make a name, all were welcome no matter your loyalties and the only qualification was to be a recognized Christian. They became more powerful than entire coalitions of Kingdoms and eventually had to go into hiding after the Church and the King of France, feeling threatened and unable to pay back loans they declared the Templars heretics and criminals, subsequently forcing them away from the Public eye. Celtic and Nordic PMCs who fought for both Hannibal and Rome were also pretty notorious, Rome were expert's at hiring and trading with People they knew they couldn't Subjugate, enslave or Conquer like Scottish Celts and Germanic Gauls, Vikings were hired by the Emperor of Byzantium as professional bodyguards too.
@MoHufanTech listen boys I don't care what gets you hard but history ain't it for me, I'm not some School shooter with deus vult tattooed on my Nuts. Romans, Spartans, Greeks or Templars, they all have their little online circle jerk cults and I can assure you that's not me. Don't compare me to those Fat neck beards who have no actual clue or context of History.
@@randomuser.6932 Bronze age Bands of mercenaries didn't have Admin and Accounting departments or Physicians and Recruiters, Construction workers, Craftsmen, Merchants and Priests. The Templars were the first to organize into what would be recognized today as a Modern Corporation. Back then you would have to travel to your local trader, Craftsmen, Clergy or Nobleman for services but when the Templars were at their height you could just send off a letter and they would deliver like Amazon or EBay.
It is interesting to see how PMC's/Mercenaries have participated throughout history. A cynical part of me is wondering if their rapidly escalating use is a long term symptom of a declining nation/empire. The western half of the Roman empire comes to mind. But on the other hand, in the shorter term they allow certain things to get done without excessive bureaucracy, politics and micromanagement by politicians that the military can suffer under. I don't think they are good or bad. They are a resource that can be either used or misused.
I feel PMCs are absolutely perfect for counter insurgency. The US military should focus on fighting other nation's armies and fund PMCs to fight controversial wars, such as the War on Terror and the conflict in Africa. It's impossible for a conventional military to destroy an insurgency. But an insurgency to destroy an insurgency? I think that would go hell of a lot smoother.
Totally disagree also a insurgency is a small unprofessional force that attacks a much larger and much more organized and more well trained professional soldiers with hit and run tactics so PMCs are not insurgents, also the military has special operations forces that have special training to deal with insurgents like SEALs and Delta Force and CIA Special Activities Center (they changed the name in 2016)
Zombie Knight spec ops should be reserved for covert missions such as rescuing American prisoners and in formal wars against organized militaries; can’t have government in charge of everything, especially when it drains the economy back home. Private sector has its advantages.
@@emanuelhoyos1030 if we used private companies we would have to pay them more which would drain our economy more plus they don't have nearly as many soldiers so that means less troops in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and they don't have the resources that our military has also if we used PMCs that would make us look like cowards to other nations including our enemies so PMCs should only be used as a support role and for security but everything else should be handled by our military and I trust our military more than mercenaries that only work for the highest bidder, also rescuing pows isn't a covert op, a convert op is when the identity of who contacted the operation is unknown in other words they would never know it was the U.S.
@@mistermustacheguy2763 PMC's are far, far more cost effective than the US military, despite being paid far more. Government is just naturally inefficient, this includes the military.
Being able to practically deal with the problems as they present themselves. Very well said, sir. Excuse my french but fuck them politicians and their careers.
Civilian here and even I understand how other people can fuck you over for their own political agenda. Also, can't really rely on police nowadays. I'd be a lot happier counting on a professional entity like a PMC to provide security.
I remember watching this when it was aired in the U.K. It’s interesting how PMC’s have exploded into the limelight over the past 15 years. I think there is an oversight into the report as to the characters that are attracted to the industry. I’ve 3 mates who moved to PMC, 1 was ex navy and police the other 2 are ex army, their reasonings where completely different and have made great material wealth from these roles but simultaneously the personal costs are as equally as high with very little support (and the U.K. MOD has a reputation for being pretty poor on that matter already) 1 mate had left the army his daughter was very ill with a rare disease so went into PMC so he and his wife could afford the medical care and treatment for their baby girl, when she passed away he now donates a large portion of his wage towards a charity that helps children and families in the same position. My other mate got so hacked off with the BS but found it hard to adjust to civvy life a PMC contract focused his mind and stabilised him really I dread to think where he’d have ended up in civvy street. My ex navy mate moved as a natural progression from his time in the police force, whilst working he took courses in his downtime in field medics, H&S etc he now works as a consultant/advisor and personal protection security. When it comes to other sides of PMC I remember the lads and lasses in logistics getting peeved because they where in £15k a year whilst the contract HGV drivers where on £60k for 6months work just for driving a HGV. Only recently came across your channel interesting uploads, keep safe and stay awesome 🔥🤘😎👍🔥
my dad after 24 years in the air force, got offered a job that paid x10 in India just to fix planes lol "if i would of known about this earlier i would of took it, but i had to hang up the boots"
" when you throw money at somebody morality gets skewed real fast".... totally agree... but this is no different when governments are involved, US and UK have both been guilty of swapping and changing sides to suit there own agendas.
Well I've been a few pmc guys in Afghanistan while I was there deployment. Pretty wild hearing them talk about just how much money they make simply pulling post at camp leatherneck. Making about 4 time the amount of money I did during that exact same time.
I remember reading a book once that had the title something like "Travel Guide to the World's Most Dangerous Places". Mostly they were places where the official governments, had either lost or had never had control of certain areas of their countries, or where there was some kind of insurgency going on. I could very well see PMCs being employed by individuals, companies or governments to supply security for people or groups having to operate or do business in those areas. The main one that comes to mind is the Simba crisis in The Congo in the 1960s. Mercenaries were hired to rescue Europeans residents trapped by the Simbas and to regain control of parts of the Congo that the official government was unable to do. In spite of the money the PMCs receive, they do not have the USMC, the US Army, etc backing them up. Kind of like the old "Mission Impossible" TV show, "Should any of your IM force be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions."
PMC‘s are necessary because of the rules of engagement. The military and politicians will hang out to dry for political reasons a soldier however they cannot do that to a contractor and if somebody wishes to hire a contractor for protection it is their God-given right.
I have friends that are retired military that went into contracting for a short time. They made enough money to fund businesses and setup their family and got out. They have some unbelievable stores.
Tell us a story
My uncle’s retirement
@@arsethr.g3787 nah...bro wants a bedtime story 😂🤣💀
@@spectergreen7740Same in the military people end up in body bags too.
@@shadowslayer9988And get paid a thrid of what a contractor is.
I made 25 grand a year my first deployment to Iraq in 04. My first year as a contractor in 09, I made 150 grand and was only deployed for 6 months.
Nice. How was experience compared to mil
So like can you put in a good word for me lol 😂. That 150k sounds real nice
@@Arcideeznuts
I work for a security agency right now and the pay is great. I only worked 3 months this year and I spent the rest of the year with family.
Easy business to get into and a great business to get into. I suggest looking into what skills you have and perhaps take a small private firearms course.
When you build up the firearm skills and some basic tactics then find out what the best local agency is and apply.
I would suggest working as much as possible the first year like I did and start a few small businesses to keep yourself floating when work starts to dry up.
I should also note that you should only take contracts you are prepared to fill out in full.
Good for you. You put your skills to good use.
Today you can stay home do the same job
Im just waiting for Bezos to start Amazon PMC "delivering death to your doorstep" 😂🤣
Probably not he’s anti gun or Amazon would be the worlds number one gun dealer by now
These "philanthropic" billionaires do it by vaccinations, no need of PMCs LoL
@@anthonyyoung6433 you're right; investors will wait until after Bezos dies beforehand Amazon becomes the world's largest supplier of firearms. Then the PMC-lites will come.
that's cyberpunk af
@@indobalkanizer6557 ?
"Anyone who was good in the military, is no longer in the military." It's a generalization but it holds true across services and career fields.
Well considering you dont have to be saluting anyone necessarily and just get paid 3x and you arent just rushing to wait but instead actually doing something i can see why people would want to be PMC:s instead.
@@Jebu911 getting paid 3x as much tax free
Same thing for IT folks in the military. You get out with Secret Clearance you can make easy 6 figures.
@@grawr3534 tax free depending on location
@@zvezdan956 I think they changed that. I was a contractor during Obama. I had to back pay all the taxes I "owed".
"Men with swords never go hungry." - Roman proverb
"Men with lead will take what they want from men with steel"
But they still die! Captains first. -First spear to the thirteenth legion Lucius Verinus
Republicans today "You will not replace us"... thier leader, "Man, woman, fridge, tv..."
True but don't forget those who live buy the sword die by the sword.
i remember that line from Rome
Hideo Kojima talked about this in the 90s. Proxy wars fought with corporate hands.
PMC vs military is like professional girlfriends vs marriage. With one you’re getting what you’re paying for w/o bs. The other is a lot of romance.
I came here to say something very similar.
Someone’s been playing lots of MGS
Probably the best description on the table. Will we as a species transcend our primal urges of conquest by any means necessary. Or are we doomed to forever repeat History.
Xezatt War, war never changes...
@@infernonigh0 The only other option is the domestication of the entire human race. Dr. Doom wanted the same thing.
I did overseas security contracting for 16 years, it was interesting work to say the least. As General Mattis once said, speak only when spoken to, be honest and firm, but have a viable plan to kill everyone in the room if things go south, lol.
I will take your advice
i thought i was crazy for thinking "can i kill them and get out?" when at rager parties lol
That's actually a great plan in general, well not killing everyone but being prepared.
Cringe. Wonder how a boot like you made it to private contracting
@@user-dd8vo7or2d lots of miles, in lots of boots in lots of countries spread over 20 years in a combat arms MOS.
I was in Iraq in 2004 as a Contractor. We were well paid, equipment with plenty of brand new gear / ammo and lived in the old Baghdad Hotel which had seen better days but served as a compound for Contractors and also Military who were on a little R&R. All of my team members were vets (Marine / Army) and appreciated the mission we were on. We were treated well and allowed to shop at the PX's on forward bases. We did get some odd stares and looks at our appearance and weapons we were carrying but there were never any problems with anyone in the Military unless you count the time a young Army LT questioned our right to shop at the PX. After trying to "pull rank" on us and then realizing that we were A - much older then he was and B -" respectfully" showing that we were not really willing to listen to him nor did he have any authority over us, he went away upset and complaining. As an act of good faith we did however fill up the back of his Humvee, when he was inside the PX, with all of our fast food trash! That was a rare occasion, in fact we often provided some Military guys with new magazines (M4 & Beretta) since some of theirs were pretty beat up and we had a ton of them. . Good Pay and Good Food, all in all a good time!!!
Damn, sounds like a big step up from the military.
@@randomcenturion7264 It is.
@@randomcenturion7264 Yes indeed. As a Marine (1974-1979) our equipment was hand me down from Vietnam!
I am from Thailand 🇹🇭 what i know about pmc is that they have broken several laws in Iraq. They act like bad gangsters. They do not honor ordinary Iraqis, they sometimes kill innocents, women and children. It is not uncommon for Iraqis to take guns and kill mercenaries.
so. you have new kit and by your own admission use military bases but ignore the military rules and brag about it..
blackwater anyone
"If your good at something never do it for free" - The Joker.
Money talks
@@oscartotesautolivier9856 It does indeed my friend. Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
@Sonny No, I paraphrase other peoples words. As I'm not trying to be some swanky old school hipster. Or what ever character your trying to play over the internet. Boom!
It's simple. We. Uh. Kill the Batman.
Fun fact Black water changed there name to Academi now.
Didn’t they stop acting as a private military service and move towards taking contracts to train up 3rd parties and government contracts
@@zackarywoehler7859 well I'm not too sure on that one. There still a well known pmc so they could be doing anything in the shadows.
Because "Blackwater" got expelled from Iraq after killing a family they suspected to be insurgents tailing them. Most PMC's I've met are the type of guys I wouldn't want in my squad.
Drago 30,000 im not sure either, from what i read they have converted over to training from the looks but im sure they run covert ops without us knowing
Clyde Green I agree with you, from what It seemed like in the video, most of the guys in PMC’s now days were couch potatoes last week haha
Just remember too a PMC may be the dude repairing your air conditioner at your base. I knew a few that worked alongside the Australian Defence Force who were electricians and their job was repairing facilities.
It’s weird whenever i watch your video, you remind me of my grandpa. He fought in the Vietnam war but not for the American but for the VietCong since we’re Vietnamese. Whenever i was watching something about military, he always have something interesting to say. He passed away few years ago. I kept coming to your channel just for the same feeling xD
your words kill my brain cells.
"not for the American but for the VietCong since we're Vietnamese"
do you have any idea that there were Vietnamese fighting for Vietnam yet also fought along with the American?
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 and? there’s still a chance he fought for VC
You’ve earned my sub. Don’t really like reaction channels but you add a lot of great insight and it’s actually educational. Keep it up!
thanks Daniel. I try to learn something and also add some insight if I can. No drama but learn together.
Jamesons Travels you can learn something new everyday.
Yeah same with me, its great content
CW lemon keeps popping up in my feed. Like NO!
Jameson’s Travels is the only “reaction channel” I actually like watching, too.👍
There’s the good and the bad to everything
Pros: less politics, no bs roe, mo’ money
Cons: no accountability
beat me to it...
Lou g Xx11 I would agree also in the aspect of politics and roe. But what if these guys behead a guy for looking at them the wrong way? No one is accountable and the media pounces on it like they did blackwater and ruins it for everybody.
@@lowercase3635 "Pounces on it like they did blackwater"
Because Blackwater fucked up royally and repeatedly.
Adding to the whole "lack of accountability" aspect, when reporting casualties on war. . we don't list how many PMCs die in a warzone.
Mahbu exactly lol
I was a chef contracted to work in Camp Julian in Afghanistan.
Helped dj on the base radio as well. Running joke was you could tell how good a chef was by how big his security detail was. It waa the closest i think ive come to celebrity status in my Chef career😆
How much did u typically make if you dont mind me asking?
In the latter days of tbe Roman empire, they venerated their chefs, top Chef?
Anyone ???
i believe that people who go "i would never do that" just don't know what their price is yet
Correct, everyone can be bought. Its just that some people have such a high price noone will pay it.
my price is class 3 nd 4 paid for, an mg42 and ak47, and 25k to give dad to finish remodel and im yours for the year
Oh man, if I was offered what the Taliban was given, I definitely would give it some thought, at least. You realize how stupidly rich some of those terrorists are going to be, when they realize the price tag on some of that stuff?
You've improved a lot with your videos Jameson. I love how much insight and information you now offer in your videos when you pause it, as well as the respect you give to all of the subject matter. It's great stuff.
it is a learning process for me. try to think what i would want in the vidoes.
Only difference between a conventional military and mercenaries is the loyalty and accountability.
I'd like to think it's not that simple.
Loyalty to Whom ?
Regular Army's are Loyal to the Governments whom care soo much, that will pay them Minimum wages. or try to find excuses and dont pay ,if you die in action.
Mercenaries use Better Equipments and the Payment is way better .
@@badb0x FYI, the US military doesn't pay minimum wage. The housing options may not be far from section 8; but when you combine all the benefits it generally starts at around $35,000 for someone straight out of basic.
@@Crazt 35k per annum . long waiting list for Promotions .
yet they dont Know that many brands pay x2 x4 per annum . if you show skills you will be given Missions "security" than the Payment goes Higher .
I dont Believe that 100% of the Regular Army ,Join because they're Patriots.
Few are Patriots, Few are there For the Rush and MANY for the money .
Best Choices you can make in the Army is Skills : Driver , Electrician , Communications ETC .
and yet as Mercenary you can pay yourself for skills (if) you have the time .
the Army Protect the Government , Mercenaries anyone who pays .
@ accountability and moral
Accountability to whom ?
Career Politicians ?
Moral , I believe each of us have different Morals anyways .
The biggest problems with PMC's is when you get payed to fight wars, no war is bad for business.
That applies to all weapons manufacturers and military contractors. It's the military industrial complex.
@@wallytuber exactly, its all the same bro!
Those people are fucking goons and will never have my respect.
I mean there are a lot of places around the world that are ready to blow all u need to do is light up the spark so I don’t see how this is a problem
@@salehhani3456
Ironic af, since it looks like now it might be our turn in the next 10 years.
_"Oh how the turn tables."_
Privateers used to be a lot more common in the 18th-19th centuries. Britain would hire pirates to raid french trading vessels and vice versa
entire armies were hired to fight, lay siege, or overthrow kingdoms
“Private Military Contractor” is just the PC term for the word “Mercenary.” Whether for good or bad, soldiers for hire is as old as war itself. Some even call it the “2nd occupation”, and the 1st occupation helped with the 2nd.
@Christian Morgan yeah from my understanding a mercenary is just payed to do single jobs, whereas pmcs are on salary and are employed under certain companies.
So mercenaries own themselves whereas a pmc has a direct boss, I think, I may be wrong though.
@Christian Morgan
Hardly. Mercenaries have been hired to defend things for millenia. Go learn some history before you opine in ignorance.
@@xtiancolquhoun7410
You are wrong. Go read the Anabasis by Xenophon.
@Christian Morgan
Gosh, your inability to communicate meaningfully is as embarrassing as your lack of reading comprehension. Are variations on,
>No, u stoopid, me not stooped! Say smart thing I can also understand or you stoopid!
really the best you can do?
If I've used a fallacy, you should be able to point out and name it, shouldn't you?
Never heard of the fallacy fallacy have you, eh? It takes more than pulling out and misusing that magic word to win an argument, mate.
What exactly is intellectually dishonest about contradicting your error while providing a source?
I'd say It looks almost as if you're projecting, but the "almost" wouldn't be intellectually honest.
@@horsemumbler1 hahaha .......... *phallusy*
Private military means less accountability for governments making war crimes/dodgy stuff more likely.
Sounds very Grim,knowing the US is in mess right now
Who knows whats going to happen for the Government
Big oil companies have ex special forces as consultants!😼
Not true
That's the whole point. Not having to suffer the PC crap.
The only difference is that governments commit military crimes using taxpayer's money, to fullfil what a politician thought was good, and Private Security Forces commit them pursuing a private's interest.
The largest military budget in the world, by a wide margin. But our service members are paid peanuts compared to what the training is worth.
Of course! They can't afford to give the soldiers a decent wage, when they have to spend all the money hiring PMC's at 10 times the price.
Anyone old enough to remember "Soldier of Fortune" magazine?
Yes, and loved everyone. great magazines and fun to dream about as a keep raised by combat vets.
I work for a military contracting business (not a 'door kicker' - I do security training consulting and quality oversight for foreign contracts, basically making sure the level of training is consistent). I don't think people realise quite how much of overseas government interventions are outsourced. It is just cost effective. Some believe the government wastes money on contractors because they just see how much they are paid. However contractors are only paid when on a task. The government doesn't have to pay them when not deployed, pay for accommodation in peacetime, pay for training, pay pensions, pay for food, administrate them etc. It costs a lot if money to keep an army full time, especially when they are not being used. Short term outsourcing is simply a better use of tax payers money.
The public has no idea about how much contractors are used in policy implantation.
In regards to PMC
morally its wrong
legally its questionable
personally that paycheck looks tempting
I wouldn't say its morally wrong because when you may be a pmc doing security for a ship nothing morally wrong with that it all comes down to circumstances and what your doing
yep, spot on!
@@jmasik100 indeed they do help the US army a lot but what i get from your comment is that you think they are not mercenaries which they are. Im not questioning their skill or experience some of them come from the most elite branches of the military. Doesnt change the fact that they work for a private corporation as long as America can pay the price they will do the job but what if America cant and someone else can. PMC are not a problem when used on a small scale of escort and protection but when they run the logistics to your army and even become the main fighting force in your army that is when it becomes a slippery road. Its not at that point where they are the main fighting force but it is starting to get there which is the main concern
Cluster JDAM Thanks for setting it straight, yepp..:)
@@jmasik100 we have the right to comment
This is exactly the storyline of call of duty advanced warfare. The private sector gets so big they essentially become a government
I worked as a Contractor in Iraq (2004) and never had a problem with anyone on our side. Worked with Army & Marines all doing the same job. The Military used our headquarters as an R&R location, we had very big pool and great barbeques! We were all Veterans and some had LE Experience on Tactical Teams. No one was a "hotdog" or acted like a jerk. We carried out our assignments as Professionals and did so as quietly as possible. The money was good and the conditions much better than the average grunt was used to. Most everyone we "transported" was very grateful and thanked us. We did get some strange looks at the PX or when stopping on a base, but we never felt disrespected. Mine was not a UN Mission. I was told that doing a contract for a UN Mission was much more restrictive in use of force. By the way, you are 100% correct about the loss of life as a Contractor. Not reported as much nor as big of a deal if it was a Military member killed. I will also tell you that while we had several females wash out during training, they seemed to re-appear once in country as office personne.
I know a former policeman here in Northern Ireland went to Iraq to do private security, he was earning over £100k per year. Police from here were highly sought after due to the anti terrorist experience they had during the troubles
I just realized that the IRA is literally exactly like every single group we’ve fought in the Middle East. That kinda blew my mind not gonna lie.
@@hansstrudel9614 to some extent maybe, they worked in cells of 4 or 5 and worked in ordinary jobs then did their dirty work in the shadows, they are/were scum, not freedom fighters like some would make them out to be
Glenn Purdy scum indeed child killers ! That said during doc i watched from a high up British army officer did say the south armagh brigade esp where very capable & smart people .. his words not mine lol .. thank God its mostly gone & the youth carry on with no bitterness
@@makaveli88888 they did have some skills and were well organised but scum nonetheless, unfortunately there's a generation of keyboard ira warriors coming through now
Glenn Purdy Seamus, get the fertilizer
i was a marine(E-5) 0311, combat tour in Iraq 2004 to 2005, got back from iraq in april of 2005 and was back in iraq by jan 2006 with Cochise Consultancy(DOD Contract) protecting engineers dismantling ASP's. Jan 2008 i started with black water(DOS contract) in Baghdad, Kabul, and Israel. Little time with Tripple Canopy after BW lost the contract in Baghdad then SOC LLC at the end of my time in Israel before i went home on medical leave in feb 2018. Personal experience, BW was one of the best companies i ever worked for. Best gear, Training and air support in Baghdad and back then most guys were ex special forces or combat vets (army and marines). Some of the best combinations of guys i worked with. Best analogy i could compare it to is if regular army and marine corps was high school football, then working for black Water was Division 1 football. In high school you have a handful of good players on teams, but at the Division 1 college level every player is a good player and your ability to operate at a higher level is realized. Anytime your dealing with a large pool of Alpha male types your going to have some situations here and there but thats just par for the course. For the most part if guys were legit they had no problems, but if your were a hot head or a whiner you didn't last long. When some asks me about it i usually know within a couple minutes whether or not they know any real details about contracting or if they are just regurgitating some left wing rant. At the end of the day, Black Water never lost a client, we did however loose many men to uphold that level of operation Tempo.
what about the videos of blackwaters mercs crashing whit the humvee the iraqi women? the video is not fake my friend
"we did however loose many men to uphold that level of operation Tempo" - Crypto MERC 2020 -
@@blackmetalcumbia we rolled around in black suburb with a few tan ones. That was probably dyncorp or Custer battles.
@@rogerrabbit110 yes we did
@Crypto MERC I did not want to doubt the fact, that you did loose many men, rather than emphasize that fact. It is barely discussed in the media and I wanted to point that out. This is information that needs to find its way into mainstream media so the public can understand the full cost of such enterprises and their service. Mainly the cost in human lives, in traumatized contractors and in weakening of the regular forces by enticing many top notch soldiers to work for private companies. It seems to me that starting a debate about this subject is really difficult. My thought was that your last sentence should become viral, so people start thinking about it. Kind of a proposal for a meme or something like that.
With the military training and boot camps getting softer in this country I can see PMC's becoming even more important to fill a lot of rolls and their training and selection processes becoming the gold standard at some point.
I’d love to join a PMC if it was fair pay and the mission was morally proper as it could be for the dangerous job that it is. I could’ve been on my way doing it now if I had join the army before compiling a criminal record (finally have turned my life around now) then I would’ve been joining a PMC seeing that they only put you in combat roles unless you have military or law enforcement training. They don’t want to pay to train from the ground up but if they wanted to I’d go right in especially seeing how soft the military is these days. There’s a war that can be fought for the people and still be profitable.
@@plissken94th57
Are you looking for a moral war? You wont find one.
My first job when I got back (and out) in 2004 was working for a company climbing cell towers... Bechtel ran the project and loved vets because "they show up on time" lol. After a few months doing it I had a visit from a guy on a site who tried to recruit me to their company (name withheld) to be security for the contractors (Bechtel) that were going over to Iraq to start building towers. This was in 05. I couldn't believe how this guy knew my name and everything and was really trying to sell the job to me. I found out later..I think about 6 months or so that some Bechtel guys got beheaded or something over and their escorts were ambushed. Crazy stuff man... seeing this makes it even crazier because companies like Bechtel wanted to be the first to put up those towers right in the middle of a warzone...that money was a big deal for them...so they hired out PMC (the best known) to do the nasty work. The money offered wasn't anything in paper but I remember him telling me I could clear anywhere from 20-30k a month mostly tax free depending on position. I didn't didn't even think twice...I liked my job here. They sent me Christmas emails for like 2 years straight after that...kind of creepy.
Commonwealth and USA taxpayers pay for their military training..in our regular forces. It's been happening
since classical times. A couple of my mates worked for PMC's and got rich quick.. then, being squaddies, they drank it 😛
This doesn't surprise me at all. I know some guys that got injury settlements from duty in Iraq (one was shot by a sniper in the arm...it was fucking gnarly). One of them blew it on literal hookers and blow. I don't know what he's up to these days but I'm pretty sure within 6 months to a year around 70k was gone in smoke.
Noticed he said “being protected by good bad guys”
Yeah but what about it?
It's basically hiring a gang of trained killers to protect your interests. They are working for you, which makes them good, but they are a gang of killers, which is bad. Hence good bad guys.
I have 2 friends who were in the Australian SAS and both ended up leaving for a PMC. The work was a lot safer, the money was WAY better, they could essentially pick and choose what they felt comfortable doing, the standard of living while away was way better (hotel rooms, private quarters, safe houses), they could request any equipment they wanted and decide how long they wanted to stay, when to go on leave and for how long... it's all negational. A lot of these guys have young families so to be able to work 6 weeks away and 2 weeks back for say a 4 month term and make more cash that they would being deployed for a year seems a no brainer. And the money is international so they help them set up their finances to minimize and taxes so the take home percentage is way better too. They were home more than they were away by choice. Now as a society, seems pretty wrong to use PMC's in the way they can be and feel that there needs to be some strict rules on what PMC can and can't do and these need to be enforced or this is going to get way out of hand.
i like it when he says “let’s go” for some reason lol
For historical context: East India company. Basically an entire private entity ran Indian with its own army.
The dutch east Indian company *
@@linusdn2777 Wrong one. The VOC held no sovereignty over India; they instead controlled the East Indies (modern day Indonesia, Malaysia, etc.).
And 'Murica took their flag.
Yes. But remember The Crown eventually nationalised them, because they were corrupt and too powerful...
the United East India Company started out as a government-directed amalgamation of several rival Dutch trading companies
The Department of War being renamed the Department of Defense is the same reason Mercenaries now refer to themselves as PMC's:
Optics
There used to be a Department of War (Army) and Department of the Navy. When they were merged, it became Defense. I used to think the same thing you did, but it turns out it wasn't for nefarious or underhanded reasons.
@@taemien9219 *shits a rainbow outta my ass*: "The More You Know"
Lol, but for real, did not know that, thanks.
@@ethicalcheeze1407 NP man, I literally always thought the same thing you did and decided to see when they did it. Then I found there were separate departments for army and navy that were combined to defense and felt kinda dumb, but learning something new is always a good thing.
Taemien No they is still a Department of the Navy and Department of Army. Both are under the DOD. The name was changed for PR.
@@tomwilson6330 "An Act to promote the national security by providing for a Secretary of Defense; for a National Military Establishment; for a Department of the Army, a Department of the Navy, a Department of the Air Force; and for the coordination of the activities of the National Military Establishment with other departments and agencies of the Government concerned with the national security." - National Security Act of 1947
It split the War Department into the Departments of the Army and Airforce (creating the Airforce in the process), and combined them with the Department of the Navy under the new Department of Defense.
The Knights Templar historically speaking were possibly the first "private military"
I’m late but yeah the templars did protect people so I’m guessing they where the first ones too
I’d argue the proto early Roman Empire, each senator would raise their own “legions” often each dramatically different and that legion held allegiance to that senator. Basically private armies this was before the first emperor but explains a lot of their civil wars and famously mercenary’s exist in Greek tales/legends so Ancient Greece had private military groups. Smaller scale then The proto Roman legions but still just shows this is a practice since the ancient times.
@@chrisspink8873 True, when I hear "Private Military" my first thought is "a company fighting for wealth" and that's essentially what the Knights Templar morphed into. I'm not sure if there were any ancient militia type groups that became so rich that they were actively hunted down/killed/disbanded as was the case for the Knights Templar?
Pmc are good. But like every sword there's two edges.
100% agree.
Soo, u can say the us army is a katana? (Single edge sword)
@@nicktanaka Well there's some cruel shit that they have done too so I guess it's a no.
@@JamesonsTravels lots of fellas don't want this.. Trust me...
Except for Katanas, tantos, cutlass, scimitar, etc....
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Movies from the 80s and 90s where police was privately funded or private armies seemed laughable or unrealistic...but actually weren’t than far from future real life.
The main issue is accountability. Someone has to monitor all this or it could go to far.
I saw plenty of PMCs in Baghdad, Iraq. Always so them driving off in convoys to go to the range. The loadouts they were using made my teammates and I jealous
Love the way you engage the community by asking us for our opinion after every time you pause a video to make a point. Very inclusive to having a mature discussion on a so many variables. Keep up the good work sir. Oorah
Just gonna say this, if you want less PMCs, then maybe you should push for the better treatment of military personnel like better pay and benefits.
EDIT: given the amount of replies i realize i shouldve clarified that i definitely dont expect this to be the best or most practical solution if it can even be considered one. Maybe we got other aspects to consider. I just wanted to point out that if there's somebody who's gonna say "get rid of PMCs" they might want to think why anybody ends up needing them in the first place, and that getting rid of them CANNOT be the only thing they think about.
And less bullshit rules...
Rules of engagement has allot to do with it also.
@@udontneedtoknow6816 yeah the list goes on for things we can push for
But it's like Jamesons said, rules of engament are different and because of that it makes legal issues a lot less stressful.
If money is the incentive, then they price will spiral to a point you can’t afford. Wrong suggestion my guy.
Guess I'll be pulling another all nighter.
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We are brothers! Lol
After I do my years in infantry I’m going to try this as a job
I really appreciated your nuance take on this. Easy to jump on a side, but refreshing to see someone on the internet provide a deconstructed review step by step. Thanks man, best of luck.
At least PMCs in America isn't as armed as the ones in Africa with there own Mi-24 Hinds and T-62 MBTs.
Though the Warlords there are just as dangerous or even more.
that’s crazy
When watching this video I was reminded of a speech from Demosthenes where he warned about mischievous mercenaries. To counter bad behavior he argued for a minimum amount of Athenians within the ranks to oversee and control the hired help. "But ever since your mercenaries have gone to war alone, they have been vanquishing your friends and allies, while your enemies have become unduly great." (First Philippic, 24). So the use of mercenaries , as said in the video, is old as war itself, but also the issues surrounding it.
I've been around "pmc's" for 30 years now. One of my in-laws is a Vietnam era marine scout sniper. he's been involved with them since the late 1970s -early 80s. From private contractor protecting foriegn dignitaries, to writing/editing for SOF magizine, running his own training camp just down the road a few miles, to military advisor during the El Salvadoran civil war. My son is currently serving as a Calvary Scout to "earn his bones" (credentials) to work as a PMC after his enlistment. Simply put the money is astronomically better working as a PMC vrs serving in the traditional military. The equipment is better, rules of engagement are less restrictive, which lowers risk. The military has just become a place to build a skill set and get experience needed to be hired where the real money is.
PMC’s, like SF units, are scalpels. Big Armies are chainsaws. Both are good at what they do, but the very precise work is best handled by those top tier gents.
Many times, removing the leadership of an enemy is the best way to limit the loss of life for all sides. Leaders who survive know how to isolate and protect themselves through special protection details interspersed with the public so that the high probability of innocent casualties wouldn’t make kinetic action favorable.
To me, PMCs serve a vital but dark role. To win any war, you must defeat your enemy. PMCs help to accomplish that mission.
I'm PRO PMC they protect our maritime vessels when they cross or at least come close to hot zones in the sea. I would love to have them on board when pirates start to attack our ship.
The thing is the pmc's probably seem like a better target than the people they are protecting. Big guys with sunglasses, big guns and big vehicles is asking for trouble
😎 that's for sure. Walking targets
My only experience with PMC's is getting shot in the eyes in Escape From Tarkov
I have zero problem with PMCs. I just hope that we treat it seriously when they're captured or killed (as in, I hope we don't leave them out to dry)
Literally one of the main benefits is that they can be left out to dry.
@@katarishigusimokirochepona6611 from a technical standpoint, yes. But that still doesn't mean that I want an American to be left to be tortured and/or killed because they were captured. I would hope that we at least try to get them back from their captors. Are you suggesting that you could care less if theyre tortured?
@@kidzbop38isstraightfire92 From a human standpoint, I care a great deal. But in terms of command or geopolitics? It totally defeats the purpose of deniable covert operations to go overtly rescue an operator.
Combat involves risk. If we can’t accept that risk, then we shouldn’t be involved in combat.
@@kidzbop38isstraightfire92 Considering that the main "benefit" of mercenaries is that they can get away with war crimes, then no I don't feel sorry for them.
Macchiavelli said it best in The Prince:
“There are three types of armies: a prince’s own troops, mercenary troops, and auxiliary troops. Mercenary and auxiliary troops are useless and dangerous. Mercenaries are “disunited, undisciplined, ambitious, and faithless.” Because their only motivation is monetary, they are generally not effective in battle and have low morale. Mercenary commanders are either skilled or unskilled. Unskilled commanders are worthless, but skilled commanders cannot be trusted to suppress their own ambition. It is far more preferable for a prince to command his own army.
Historically, dependence on mercenaries ruined Italy. During the breakup of Italy, which the Church supported in hopes of increasing its own stature, many townships hired mercenaries because they had little experience in military matters. Since the mercenaries were more concerned with increasing their own prestige and status than with taking risks or accomplishing military objectives, the conflicts between these mercenary forces devolved into a series of ineffective, staged, pseudo-battles, ultimately degrading Italy’s political and military might.
Summary - Chapter XIII: Concerning Auxiliary, Mixed, and Native Forces
Auxiliary troops-armies borrowed from a more powerful state-are as useless as mercenaries. Although they often fight well, a prince who calls on auxiliaries places himself in a no-win situation. If the auxiliaries fail, he is defenseless, whereas if the auxiliaries are successful, he still owes his victory to the power of another. Auxiliary troops are often skilled and organized, yet their first loyalty is to another ruler. Thus, they pose an even more dangerous threat to the prince than mercenaries.”
This is a summary but having read the book, I can attest the argument remains the same.
Damn I can just imagine two mercenary bands just faking fighting to keep getting paid by their villages because if they actually fought and a side won they wouldn't have been needed to be around and thus no pay in the future, that and nobody wants to die if they don't have to.
Kinda like how in Orwell's 1984 Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia fight endless wars against each other. They are not meant to be won, they are meant to be continuous. To keep their own stability from the masses they must have an enemy to distract them from their horrible lives and to justify why they have such poor living conditions because supposedly materials must be diverted to the war effort which intentionally doesn't advance too far to win. That is if there even is combat or a war at all, or if East Asia or Eurasia are real because we only see the perspective of an Oceanian civilian, which suggests that Oceania may be the only one of the three superpowers to actually exist and that they are made up.
Same thing happend in china a while back a warlord almost took over the entire country
@@JBGARINGAN governments do it to
being faithless is a good thing assuming you mean like theology / religions and not faith in your group etc.
Hideo Kojima pretty much predicted or basically made more aware of PMC in MGS4, or at least the concept of 'future warfare'.
He picked many things from conspiracy theories from the real world and placed them on his games. The Patriots are basically A.I. illuminaties and the philosophers or ciphers. Plus crypto currencies and many more things.
@@joynelbonetdelgado4952 Theories that eventually came true
@@dra6o0n to a certain extent in regards to contractors PMC will continue to thrive but so will the conventional military. PMC excel at these low intesity wars where the idea is day to day security or support missions. However the conventional military has the appropriate size and funding to conduct deterence the big wars the near peer adversaries and will still fight in low inteaity because they can operate expensive assets such as carriers, sophisticated air forces, keyhole military satellite networks, SOSUS, etc. These assets are way to expensive for any private business even PMCs to want operate because they are real cash drains its not profitable and that is where the convetional come in because they are government and have different spending habits. Private and government spend money very differently because they have different missions and ways to go about it.
No he didn't ..PMCs have been
Operating for decades and the idea of proxy wars again nothing new ..
It wasn't really predicted. Mercenaries have been around for centuries and I believe proxy wars have been around just as long
God you're so good at explaining this stuff keep it up!
I worked security and law enforcement for many years and am now looking into PMC as my next career choice
Military/law enforcement here as well over 30 years. Also about to leave my LEO job after 18 yrs. I also thought about PMC but I more on the nah. I choose life over money!
If you study history. You'd know that nations who heavily rely on either conscripts or mercenaries tend to do very poorly against nations who are fighting for their homeland.
The willingness to fight is absolutely critical when it comes to winning wars.
Roman empire collapsed when they filled the legions with immigrants. Along with the devalued currency and house wives not playing out their traditional roles holding the home down.
FarmersAreCool what are you talking about? the fall of the Roman Empire was corruption, infighting and bureaucracy. A slow death over hundreds of years.
FarmersAreCool lol wtf how to bastardize history 101 lmao 😂 lemme guess, you reckon the NSDAP were socialists/leftists 😭
@@tbates2819 Devalued coinage, inflation forced military expansion, military expansionism turned inward against the citizenry, as there is only so big a balloon will inflate, just like now, only now is accelerated, taking everyones guns, collapsing all institutions and the rise of the New Word Order of transnational unaccountable corporations.
@@FarmersAreCool Agree, those things all probably contributed as I mentioned above. And yes I'm sure you can draw some parallels to whats happening today.
However going back to your original point. "Roman empire collapsed when they filled the legions with immigrants." Is an incorrect statement.
Rome had "non-Romans" and mercenaries in their ranks since the around 200 B.C or near the second punic war. On top of that Rome used citizenship, quite successfully, on conquered states to quell rebellions and make people feel apart of the empire.
After this point Rome continued to grow in power for another 300 odd years or so.
Problem I have will a pmc turn over to a higher bidder another word become as corrupt as a policeman in Venezuela for example
whoever is best at fucking shit up talks louldest
If they are with an actual company probably not. If they are an independent a 50 50 in my eyes.
It was actually a major issue for armies working with Mercenaries in Europe during the later part of the middle ages and early stage of the 30 years war. Mercenaries would often be hired and rehired between two sides constantly upbidding each other. It was also common for mercenaries to be paid off before a battle. Not to switch sides, but to simply take the stack of money and leave.
Happens a lot of Bangladesh I heard which is why the government has designated a paramilitary to guard all vips, preventing all private security from getting any work
That will happen.
I'm for PMCs if I was younger I would join up with one if I had the money I would start up one.
State armies do not like too good military specialists. For different reasons. So for these guys, PMCs are just the place where they will be useful.
I don't trust the state, but I trust the lad next to me who is fighting for my country. I will never trust the mercenary on my left.
You should check for these friendly fire instances, seem to be more common than what we think
@JA9669 If you want the real mercenary experience you should go to northern Syria or Africa. I guarantee you won't describe actual mercenary armies as "good and selfless".
JA9669 yeah the last contractors i jave seen were fireing guns on civilians from some roof top for fun...they were called blacked water and now they are called academia
And this is why the state must be trusted....
mamneo2 pat tillman ex football player killed by friendly fire
“Put that in the comments” will never get old😂😭🙏🏽
Good thing or bad thing, there's no question that this is as old as time. The world's second oldest profession, if you will. Mercenaries have long saved kings and emperors the expense of keeping massive standing armies, whether they were needed or not. Hire armies when you need them, don't when you don't. This comes with it's own set of problems historically, but that's the way it's always been and the way it will always be.
Russians used PMC’s in Syria that attacked US ground units. I remember reading a news article awhile back that we took out about 50 of them without suffering any casualties after they engaged our soldiers on the ground.
Private maritime security is much better. Rarely engage with the enemy, get paid $800 a day, and its a lot safer
Only a few companies pay that much, Private maritime security is oversaturated by easterns working for very very cheap.
Kinda depends on the company, and where you go. I wouldn’t say it’s rare, just uncommon.
How do you get into that?
Kyle Benoit there are companies that offer Maritime Security Services, like PMCs.
I own a private security company, how to get contracts, is my question...
this brain drain: PMCs poaching from special forces and specialized units either police or military, is still a problem, in particular in less wealthy countries. and to honest, i can't blame those guys
its money. why would a sf guys stay for 1/4 of the money.
I wouldn't say it's a problem for less wealthy countries. It's a consequence of the main problem: the government in those countries.
@@1990alone Well yeah. Those countries are "less wealthy" precisely because of there governments. The two concepts are effectively inseparable.
@Dias06 if you're in the Army is ok to cry for help ?
I can bet you that most times nobody will come, on time Regardless .
@Dias06 yup you're totally correct I'm clueless .
I forgot you talking about Supper Heroes , they never Die or get Captured "for Minimum wages"
If I die , I prefer to be for Something more than Pride and Feelings .
take you Medals and stick them on the Wall, do the same with you Knowledge .
"I capitani di ventura" the history of mercenary force is so interesting I hope some day to study it , groups of homeless and retired veterans stick together ready to fight for some Rich landowner, how many good story we can find in this company ? Italy was reunited by a captain of fortune
As the world gets more complex, pmc's become more efficient.
I'm probably biased, as I haven't had any pleasant encounters with PMC's. So yeah, I've always been heavily against them, the lack of accountability and everything that comes with that. Plus, the 'bad apples' of the armed forces seem to flock to them.
Hmm...they're a bit cocky and were all once combat experienced soldiers, paratroopers, Rangers, Marine Recon, or Spec Ops. They don't have to answer to just ANY rank of the US military. Of course you have to be professional but to kiss their ass - fuck no. PMC don't answer to or go to parade rest for the US Military.
I've only encountered a few and all of them were lackluster to say the least .
@@robtriton From what I've experienced, many of them sign up (in a war zone) so they can have more "freedom to do what they want", and earn some nice money to boot. They don't do it because they want to make a difference, most are fed up with the politics of the military. I completely get that, but joining a PMC (in a war zone) isn't the answer, it actually makes things much worse if you ask me.
Having served in the Dutch military, we responded to a firefight near Kamp Holland. What happened? A bunch of idiots form a PMC were "testing" their weapons on a bunch of camels... I've heard stories of them being in areas they had no business in and the actual military wondering if it were militia forces. From my perspective PMC's in general do much more harm than good.
I have honorable discharge, many awards, decorated soldier now pMC. Lol only bad apples flock to them. How about it’s a good paying job for the skill set I have. You’re just mad bc you couldn’t get hired
@@reynaldorivera7641 Many "awards"? Seriously, calling them awards is enough to factually state you're full of shit. =D And then you try to be all cool with your many awards and decorated soldier. No soldier does that, stolen valor right here.
'Private military contractor' is just a PC term for 'mercenary' in today's world.
Snowflakes are everywhere
Not all are trigger pullers; many offer technical expertise.
@@tdgdbs1 but if they arent good with the trigger theyre useless in their field
@@GuyFromTheSouth I am a retired Army nurse , now a defense contractor flight nurse; I have not had to pull a trigger in my 24 years career. If you choose to be a grunt; don't complain about the low pay; but for military contractor, it's still better than most civilian jobs out there.
Tom, this is such a “duh” comment...
Sell Swords. Hired Hand. Bought Blade. Some Viking bands became contractors for Kings whose land they were pillaging. Now they got pay instead of loot, and all the perks they already enjoyed, like loot; just to head down the road and raid the Kings enemies. Good business.
I'd go work for a PMC. I'd rather work for the money than the military.
The real danger is that those companies become richer and more powerfull every year and they will soon be so powerfull that they will have big influence on some goverments and some really important institusions in a civil life. Another dangerus fact is that not only private sector hires them but also some goverments who need to do the job without getting dirty hands.
There's already companies that have dangerous influence on the government, it's been happening forever. How do you think the government was initially formed & funded? Nothing's ever been straight, there's always going to be people with agendas & making things happen behind closed doors, the only difference is now we're beginning to get a clearer picture of history & discover the trail that's been left behind & it's finally shedding light on the dark but at the same time regardless of what we know, the sad truth is, more likely than not, nobodies going to do anything about it
Reminds me of Metal Gear Solid 4 : Guns of the Patriots. Yup gamer here.
military industrial complex
The biggest one, Academi, isn't even that big and It's gonna take at least half a decade before you start seeing PMC making the news more often.
When I was in Iraq in 2009 our security forces went from legit Tongan Marines guarding our installation, to PMCs being manned by Ugandan nonmilitary security guards. Thankfully they were cool and whatnot, but it was weird to go from a legit military to a private company providing security for us at the Baghdad International Airport.
I use to be a gym buddy for a guy who was a member of black water. Coolest guy I ever met.
As a contractor, I just want to say the ROE is much more stringent than it was for me as a Marine in Iraq or Afghanistan. The legal ramifications for taking any shot is drastically different. As for the question of loyalty, all contracts are in support of US government and 99.9 % of those working today (for ever shrinking amounts) are prior military and their loyalty to our nation's interest is top notch and would never work for an enemy of our nation.
"do jobs where rules of engagement are different or it's off the books" that's such a nice way to say war crimes for hire.
😂😂 your ignorance is showing
Sounds like you havent read a book on the atrocities of war that the opposing forces may use, that the us military cant do much against bc they have to abide by ROE and nato/un rules.
Rene Macias how so?
Sid Vyas the real war crime is putting the lives of others over the lives of your own men. The ROEs were ridiculous!! Some still are. That’s why we’ve been there for 20 years and still haven’t won and won’t win. Because of the lawyers and politicians who put our guys in impossible situations. We didn’t have that problem in WW2. That’s why we won. And we won’t win again until our leaders come to the realization that civilians die in war and that is unavoidable. Especially when your enemies use them as human shields. Hope that answers your question.
@@ReneMacias1978 maybe you havent won that war because you should never have been there in the first place. why did you guys go to iraq and afghanistan?! The sauds paid for it and did 911 yet you attacked 2 other countries...
I've seen compilations of blackwater pmc shooting at random people after ramming into them with their humvees
It took a while, but, you have won me over. I enjoy you and your reactions. 8 years as a army medic here.
I am such a fan of your channel, there are so many "reaction" channels who just sit there and watch the damn video and laugh every once in a while and add nothing valuable to the video. Every time you pause the video to say something its always a valuable correction or peice of information and on top of it you really know what your talking about and it shows! keep up the great work 💪
In sierra leone in the nineties about 200 executive outcomes mercenaries defeated about 14000 rebels and chased them out of the diamond fields.
Yeah and the UN of course didn't like that they succeeded and made the UN look incompetent and after when the UN forced EO out of Sierra Leone and replaced them with a UN Peacekeeping force, after 100 days or so when EO left the fighting started again.
Never trust the UN
@@Crackshotsteph the un is a useless joke
@@Crackshotsteph I know some of the mercenaries who fought in sierra leone. They are some of the best on the planet even now that they are getting older.
The Templars were the first global PMC's in Europe during the medieval period and had the worlds first official Branded Logo.
They did everything from Private Security to Debt collection, most notably when they were hired by France and England to protect pilgrims heading to the holy land, over time they expanded their monopoly over other sectors of business, they gave loans, rented out property and had a massive logistical system for the disruption and sale of food&water.
They were absolute genius's with recruitment, Devout Follower's joined for Religious reasons, Soldiers joined for wealth, Knights looking to make a name, all were welcome no matter your loyalties and the only qualification was to be a recognized Christian.
They became more powerful than entire coalitions of Kingdoms and eventually had to go into hiding after the Church and the King of France, feeling threatened and unable to pay back loans they declared the Templars heretics and criminals, subsequently forcing them away from the Public eye.
Celtic and Nordic PMCs who fought for both Hannibal and Rome were also pretty notorious, Rome were expert's at hiring and trading with People they knew they couldn't Subjugate, enslave or Conquer like Scottish Celts and Germanic Gauls, Vikings were hired by the Emperor of Byzantium as professional bodyguards too.
Dude private armies have existed since the Bronze Age. You're either a Templar fanboy or willfully ignorant. Most likely both.
@MoHufanTech listen boys I don't care what gets you hard but history ain't it for me, I'm not some School shooter with deus vult tattooed on my Nuts.
Romans, Spartans, Greeks or Templars, they all have their little online circle jerk cults and I can assure you that's not me.
Don't compare me to those Fat neck beards who have no actual clue or context of History.
@@randomuser.6932 Bronze age Bands of mercenaries didn't have Admin and Accounting departments or Physicians and Recruiters, Construction workers, Craftsmen, Merchants and Priests.
The Templars were the first to organize into what would be recognized today as a Modern Corporation.
Back then you would have to travel to your local trader, Craftsmen, Clergy or Nobleman for services but when the Templars were at their height you could just send off a letter and they would deliver like Amazon or EBay.
These must’ve been the type of high level classified missions that Jeremy Dewitte, AKA THE Legendary Spec Ops agent, went on... 👀
It is interesting to see how PMC's/Mercenaries have participated throughout history. A cynical part of me is wondering if their rapidly escalating use is a long term symptom of a declining nation/empire. The western half of the Roman empire comes to mind.
But on the other hand, in the shorter term they allow certain things to get done without excessive bureaucracy, politics and micromanagement by politicians that the military can suffer under. I don't think they are good or bad. They are a resource that can be either used or misused.
I feel PMCs are absolutely perfect for counter insurgency. The US military should focus on fighting other nation's armies and fund PMCs to fight controversial wars, such as the War on Terror and the conflict in Africa. It's impossible for a conventional military to destroy an insurgency. But an insurgency to destroy an insurgency? I think that would go hell of a lot smoother.
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Totally disagree also a insurgency is a small unprofessional force that attacks a much larger and much more organized and more well trained professional soldiers with hit and run tactics so PMCs are not insurgents, also the military has special operations forces that have special training to deal with insurgents like SEALs and Delta Force and CIA Special Activities Center (they changed the name in 2016)
Zombie Knight spec ops should be reserved for covert missions such as rescuing American prisoners and in formal wars against organized militaries; can’t have government in charge of everything, especially when it drains the economy back home. Private sector has its advantages.
@@emanuelhoyos1030 if we used private companies we would have to pay them more which would drain our economy more plus they don't have nearly as many soldiers so that means less troops in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and they don't have the resources that our military has also if we used PMCs that would make us look like cowards to other nations including our enemies so PMCs should only be used as a support role and for security but everything else should be handled by our military and I trust our military more than mercenaries that only work for the highest bidder, also rescuing pows isn't a covert op, a convert op is when the identity of who contacted the operation is unknown in other words they would never know it was the U.S.
@@mistermustacheguy2763 PMC's are far, far more cost effective than the US military, despite being paid far more. Government is just naturally inefficient, this includes the military.
"Very Old" retired ARMY LRRP - PMC will and should be the future. Terms of engagement are to bring your team back at any cost. Not a political game.
Being able to practically deal with the problems as they present themselves. Very well said, sir. Excuse my french but fuck them politicians and their careers.
until someone offers to pay them more. mercenaries have no loyalty except to their paychecks.
Civilian here and even I understand how other people can fuck you over for their own political agenda. Also, can't really rely on police nowadays. I'd be a lot happier counting on a professional entity like a PMC to provide security.
@@oompalumpus699 Some of us only reply on ourselves for protection.
the tyrant67 until someone pays me 20 million to bomb where you live its a two way street dealing with mercenaries
I remember watching this when it was aired in the U.K.
It’s interesting how PMC’s have exploded into the limelight over the past 15 years. I think there is an oversight into the report as to the characters that are attracted to the industry. I’ve 3 mates who moved to PMC, 1 was ex navy and police the other 2 are ex army, their reasonings where completely different and have made great material wealth from these roles but simultaneously the personal costs are as equally as high with very little support (and the U.K. MOD has a reputation for being pretty poor on that matter already) 1 mate had left the army his daughter was very ill with a rare disease so went into PMC so he and his wife could afford the medical care and treatment for their baby girl, when she passed away he now donates a large portion of his wage towards a charity that helps children and families in the same position. My other mate got so hacked off with the BS but found it hard to adjust to civvy life a PMC contract focused his mind and stabilised him really I dread to think where he’d have ended up in civvy street. My ex navy mate moved as a natural progression from his time in the police force, whilst working he took courses in his downtime in field medics, H&S etc he now works as a consultant/advisor and personal protection security.
When it comes to other sides of PMC I remember the lads and lasses in logistics getting peeved because they where in £15k a year whilst the contract HGV drivers where on £60k for 6months work just for driving a HGV.
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my dad after 24 years in the air force, got offered a job that paid x10 in India just to fix planes lol
"if i would of known about this earlier i would of took it, but i had to hang up the boots"
" when you throw money at somebody morality gets skewed real fast".... totally agree... but this is no different when governments are involved, US and UK have both been guilty of swapping and changing sides to suit there own agendas.
To be honest most Gov's plays sides.
@Sanuk Jang Lery great
Well I've been a few pmc guys in Afghanistan while I was there deployment. Pretty wild hearing them talk about just how much money they make simply pulling post at camp leatherneck. Making about 4 time the amount of money I did during that exact same time.
I love watching your videos i have actually learnt quite abit mainly from your comments and the way you explain things, keep the videos coming
Everybody hates the PMC until they need them.
If you look at Europe in the Middle Ages, there were many private armies for hire.
I believe that the modern rise of PMC’s will look a lot like that.
I remember reading a book once that had the title something like "Travel Guide to the World's Most Dangerous Places".
Mostly they were places where the official governments, had either lost or had never had control of certain areas of their countries, or where there was some kind of insurgency going on.
I could very well see PMCs being employed by individuals, companies or governments to supply security for people or groups having to operate or do business in those areas.
The main one that comes to mind is the Simba crisis in The Congo in the 1960s.
Mercenaries were hired to rescue Europeans residents trapped by the Simbas and to regain control of parts of the Congo that the official government was unable to do.
In spite of the money the PMCs receive, they do not have the USMC, the US Army, etc backing them up.
Kind of like the old "Mission Impossible" TV show, "Should any of your IM force be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions."
PMC‘s are necessary because of the rules of engagement. The military and politicians will hang out to dry for political reasons a soldier however they cannot do that to a contractor and if somebody wishes to hire a contractor for protection it is their God-given right.
Gotta love that thumbnail. He looks worried, but he knows its necessary. LOL