I played airsoft once, it is fun. But I do not agree with the fact that mil-sim can not translate to airsoft. It absolutely can when training correct. You could apply the same strategy as used in military training. The problem is, that most of them actually think they are SF and get cocky.
I play it often I’ve seen those guys take it seriously but a lot of those guys are your wanna be super tactical dudes but a lot of the more laid back guys are usually actual instructors and vets or jus chill dudes
in my country ( holland ) its funny because i come from the shooting sports side and recently went into airsoft because some guys i play video games with invited me over and i liked it but on the shooting sports side the dynamic disciplines like parkour shooting we are not allowed to wear pouches and other clothing that is in camouflage colours because thats to militaristic yet on airsoft they walk in 1000's euros of gear and uniforms and no one says a damn thing about it and yes i must admit i have a uniform myself but it makes no sense that in the shooting sports its not allowed because they think we are training for combat and all that and i hear no one complain about airsoft where they use smoke grenades pyrogrenades and vehicles with armor and bb machineguns on it and also there are so many whiney cringy people in airsoft that is completly true but the worst is that most of em are like 30+ old people and not even like the people in their early 20's like me
I can honestly say as a veteran with years of experience and tours, I get my arse kicked playing airsoft all day and on console games. Kids think differently and are fearless.
I can see that. Like video games. They know its just a sting or loss of video game life, so they go hard without fear. My comments in the video could go from airsoft or gun range D bags. Its more just whiners that ruin it.
Bro, I played paintball while was on active duty, and it was fun especially I get opposite team guy on inside the thigh and they cry. In real tours, when bullets bouncing of dirt piles infront of me, I ain't getting up and rushing shit. They are fearless bc there is nothing to be afraid off.
Main thing between playing war and being in one is soldiers trained for mental and physical toughness bc being able to squeeze trigger is a tip of an iceberg of being a soldier. Physical and mental stress firefight puts on you is so high, if you weak, you might forget how to even squeeze a trigger when enemy pointing gun at you. During my deployments, I have seen good soldiers completely fail to protect themselves or others and lose any ability advance. Your visuals, noises and understanding what can and may be will happen to you when you get hit by shit can be extremely frightening, its not your imagination its what you see already happened to other guys. Can never compare combat to playing combat especially CQB, close quarters battle, i.e. inside buildings. War is ugly bitch. I am retired combat vet, with extensive injuries and almost lost limb and 27 confirmed kills (thats not counting what hasn't been recorded.) often after different battles, you simply can't even right up correct report on enemy forces that have been taken out. It's a fucking mess. A lot of time you don't think, you train a lot and same ah8t over and over, so when stress is beyond comorehendable, you go on autopilot and just duxking survive this shit. No thinking. Clap clap clap next room, grenade boom, back missed a guy clap clap clap, my buddy down, medic, no medic, moving forward clap clap clap, you take to in a chest plate, fall backwards on your ass use your feet to push off to any cover as boy behind takes out your ticket puncher, extend his arm, you grab it, on your feet, pop mag check rounds, lock and load and back at clapping following guys who are now ahead of you. By this time you look back and other medic made it to you boy, they dragging him out. You think "stay alive bro, I am gonna dust these bitches, skin alive, cut their head off and fuxk them in a hole where had use to be, fuck it. I am God of war, God of War, I am not dying today for my country, I am gonna let those fucks die for their country, you keep telling yourself inside your head. As gun shots, explosions, screams and dust blocking everything in your head, but you blocking it all off and concentrate on your teammate screaming commands or moves they make, its essential to stay alive. That's why they say once a combat veteran no matter what branch, your mentality is extremely different from an average guy. You can concentrate in a middle of chaos on few things and nothing will interrupt you,not fear, not pain, not anger. Having clear head in hell, thats what makes a good soldier/marine. Etc. YOU DONT FRACTURE UNDER ANY TYPE OF PRESSURE OR STRESS. But you will end up with bad ptsd, and it will kick in when its al behind you and done and over with. It will eat at you, just can't help it.
@@K1NGBabyLegs I mean, if you could legally do it I'm sure many people would. Military guys would get their ass wooped in hand to hand by anyone who is in shape and has casually trained martials arts from childhood to adolescence. The only reason no one does it is because it would land them in jail.
@Christian Rafiki Perez Kong As a Marine veteran I can tell you right now everything you are saying is complete bullshit. Do not speak about something you have no firsthand knowledge or experience in.
I did something similar, I wore exactly what I wore to prom put on some old person cologne and went in with just a pistol and a bad French accent. Was amazing
I swear I can imagine you in that sport suit, standing next to the wall, with the duallies, count to three and rush out yelling while it starts to become slow motion, you down two, shoot at a can, that explodes, and you just run through it. I dont even know you.
@@momsom321 I play a lot of paintball. Yes, the paint helps for sure but I had to light someone up more than once after they recovered miraculously after a headshot.
Personally, i think both ways of playing airsoft are gnarly. Its cool to have a serious-ish milsim game when everyone agrees on rules etc. and its also fun to run and gun screaming leroy jenkins in close quarter games lol
At the end of the day balance is key, if you only do hardcore milsim even when others are run and gunning youll never have fun and neither will others the same way if you run and gun when others are milsimming youll get hated on and wont have fun. As long as you balance both out and keep it realistic but also have sessions where you remember its just a game its alright. Balance is key everywhere.
That's it. I think the video was made by a sad guy who gets angry seem people being happy doing that they like. Even wearing special units uniform, patches and all, they are not pretending to be a specialized soldier. It's just to look cool in the game and have fun
Airsoft was good for me because it was a fun workout. I actually went from being a 300lb school teacher, dropping a hundred lbs, and joined the Army as an 11B. So it was a good sport for me, however we had a few guys that stepped into the realm of stolen valor, which doesnt fly considering how many veterans play.
Airsoft looks like a great work out a good way to kill some time. Better than sitting inside playing video games or staring at Instagram. Thanks for the comment.
Jamesons Travels I would love to try airsoft but I can’t afford all the stuff they use and my parents arnt gonna take me places all the time so I play video games a lot
I’d play airsoft often a few years back, and I’d wear a full green arrow cosplay costume and run around with a single green gas pistol with an extended mag. It was fun because when you’re wearing a costume it would kinda help the people there remember it’s just a game. These mil sim dudes running in with a fictional superhero really makes them look silly when they get a little too into it.
i genuily run like a silly cod caracter not crouched like tactical nd stuff , i just Run but wiggle my gun side to side i have been killed so many times but its always fun
Requirements to use airsoft for real combat training: - Proper equipment. - Proper instructor. - Proper attitude. - No toxic participant. Requirements to use airsoft for fun and games: - No toxic participant.
Airsoft plays more like a first person shooter than actual military stuff lol. We playing real life call of duty, not training to join the military. 100 percent agree my man
The argument the guy stayed was d bags and people who cared about the rank signs on their suits. Not people who wanted to take the actual gameplay seriously. Ranks have nothing to do with gameplay, except for the tactical purposes such as assigning squadron leader.
"Do you know who your talking to? I'm a expert airsoft operator! I've been to more feilds than 90 percent of everyone in the us! I have the highest spec NVG gear and 500 dollar genuine eotech holographic sights for all of my 600 guns I've collected!"
Spot on! Arrogant armanisofters shaped my attitudes from the getgo when I started playing airsoft some 13 years ago. Eventually we started calling ourselves the US Baby Seals and making seal sounds in the forests to filter out that kind of people. It worked immediately and ironically we also had a way of easily identifying our teammates without much more than a quick noise. Noone knew what was going on but us, as we ran around doing that x'D
I'm ex-infantry myself, and I play airsoft now a days. MOST real steel tactics are not applicable, but can be used as a guide to help in certain situations. In terms of training or practice for real life stuff, airsoft really only helps with weapon handling, some CQB stuff like room clearing, and target acquisition.
When i played airsoft years ago there were loads of Marines (real ones) and they treated it like the fun game that it is, just like loads of Marines love Call of Duty. It’s good stress relief sometimes.
My brother plays with his sons in their air soft games and he's a retired green beret. It's funny too cause my nephews are all geared up and my brother shows up with just a t-shirt, cargo pants, his old combat boots, a baseball hat, and his shooting glasses and he's only armed with 2 pistols and a 3 fake grenades and scream "Leeroy Jenkins!". My nephews would get so embarrassed sometimes cause some guys would say "Who is that crazy guy running around like that?" and they would be like "Yea, that's our dad. He's a green beret."
I played airsoft in high school, I loved it. I met a member of the hobby team through a law enforcement/firefighting academy during my senior year in HS/Votech. It was about 20 of us kids, all in fun, but we took it seriously. We had a patch of woodland we used to simulate raids, I had some hunting camouflage that I used to great effect sneaking up on individuals. a year and a half later, I was in the airborne infantry, using paint rounds during field problems. Airsoft is great fun, it's a game that can give you great exercise, and even a bit of training if you play alongside like minded people, using legitimate tactics.
“Some people use military tactics” My primitive cave man ass: (proceeds to rush the enemy line hip firing a MG42 and listing to rave music in my head set)
I remember playing with a vet. He was more immature than the youngest kid I've ever played with. Cheated, complained, and constantly calling the ref. This guy invested so much money into airsoft with a lot of expensive airsoft guns and gear. These kind of people suck playing with especially when you have to pay a fee. Getting stuck with them you kinda have to play until they leave. I liked running around and playing in the dirt and hiding in bushes it more active than sitting at home playing cod.
Depending on the vet I would think. I saw an airsoft video that a ODA guy stayed back and kept the heavier, less in shape guys going. He could of been running up front but he stayed back.
@@dschnauzer11 I should be completely specific and say that not every vet is a terrible sport. I know some cool vets that Id like to pick over others but that guy was a cringe-pile. Who completely Guccis out a gun that shoots plastic bb's? I would always be annoyed driving up to the field and seeing his truck.
@@duckboom950 He mainly bothered the ref to say people were cheating(not calling their hits) but it would turn out to be false most of the time. Just because this guy had all the best stuff in his gun doesn't mean the bb's shoot in a straight line or go through cover. I even came up on his whole team once with a flank and instead of shooting them close quarters I just said bang bang to all of them. He turned around and said I didn't get him as his whole team starts walking to spawn. Ain't that a bitch!? Lol
Went paint balling for the first time today and there was like 10 blokes fully dressed up in military gear taking it way to seriously with patches calling each other captain or whatever, felt cool to run around and shoot paintballs at people and was great exercise, 4 hours of running around climbing jumping etc gives you a different perspective on some people do that in real life as their jobs and major respect to them! Would definitely do it again! Would love to try air soft
Thankfully I would say that those kind of guys are kinda rare in paintball. I've been playing for a few years now and I've never met any like that. I even play magazine fed paintball which is more mil-sim and would attract more of those types, but nope most mag-fed guys just dress up for fun.
Nothing made me prouder when I was playing paintball at a friends birthday and it was me, vs the rest of the people there (I had 1v4 destroyed the other team prior) and won. I love paintball but kind of want to get into airsoft
@@nathanvandyke9951 Not the best idea my dude. Dehydration is serious and happens very often on the field. I've lost count of how many people I've had to lend some water to because they either forgot or neglected to bring water on the field with them and they ended up getting dehydrated.
@@ElPatronPerico original M16 was just shittily made. The M16a1 actually was fairly competent, and started seeing respect that the first model could never wish for due to its faults.
I met a guy once who tried to enlist in the marines but tore his ACL i believe (i could be misremembering) and he was heartbroken he couldn’t enlist. His idea was if i cant join i’ll live my life (to an extint) like i am. He trained (once he healed) like a soldier, he hung out with soldiers and copied their diet and training regimen, he got better with weapons. He tried to live vicariously but he NEVER had had any false identification towards what he was. He was a civilian who was INSPIRED by the USMC because he didn’t qualify. I think THAT is totally acceptable he never acted like a big shot. He never tried to steal valor or anything. He gave them the respect they deserve while trying to be the best he could be. THAT is how people should treat airsoft if they want to take it seriously. Don’t have some holier than though mentality. Its a fun game that you can act like a kid during. Dont get delusional. Have fun and feel free to take it a little serious but never forget this is a game
Airsoft isn't military training, but it can be used as military training, but that also doesn't mean that it becomes military training. Some police forces also use airsoft guns like these, and Navy SEALs also used guns similar to these in training.
@@masonallison2495 Last I checked, SEALs use sim-rounds. Something like a paintball put on the tip of a low power bullet. They hurt like a b*tch (far more than BB's or paintballs) and function like real bullets. They wear protection when using them because they can do serious damage if they hit you above the shoulders. They certainly don't use air soft guns.
@@Warrior_Culture That's also why I said they use guns similar to these, and I know they use sim rounds. I don't think that means that they don't or won't use airsoft guns. I didn't even mention anything about rounds anyways. I just talked about the guns that are used. If there's a name for a gun that shoots sim rounds, and it's not an airsoft or paintball gun, please let me know.
@@masonallison2495 Yes, it's called a gun. Sim rounds fire out of regular weapons. They use the same casing and primer as real bullets, but much lower velocity. So by "guns like these" you mean the same shape, sure lol.
You might as well do living history if you're going to that level. I've had a brew up in a world war 1 trench at night and it was one of the best experiences I've had as a re-enactor.
No Name Nothing about an MRE is convenient imo. The bags are sometimes hard to open, everything has its own packaging, your food taste like shit if you don’t use the heater, sometimes your heater is dead even before you open it, your drink bags don’t even dissolve properly in water etc... (US MRE’s what I’m talking about)
He also shoots a player on his left as he rounds a corner not checking his right side and when he does check there is 3 enemy players not 5 feet from him and we are meant to believe not one of them shot him
I agree, the people who insist on telling you every 5 minutes that 'its not the same' and 'stop getting so involved you're not in the army' are just as bad.
@Viper I tried paintball once and it was useless & frustrating as hell. I've shot real guns all my life and I'm very good at it, but with paintball, I'd unload 20 rounds and watch every ball fly all around my target. The inaccuracy was impossible to work with.
@@chrismccarty5522 "I mean so you would be ok some guy that works at a print shop demanding you call him colonel? It's the craziest thing I've ever heard of..." Really? Last time I checked airsoft is a sport/hobby where you do have more expirenced players... So if a guy is good at making your team WIN THE GAME then why not? You have captains in sports for example at least here in soccer. I mean do people get annoyed when a soccer captain is called captain?
It's just roleplay i dont find that silly if it's what you like. It's start to be cringe if it's not just for the day and you expect to be the commander everytime or if you try to make a realistic military ranking. But near were i live there was an airsoft association who do game over 36h the weekend and they roleplay, it seems to be good guys and of course they are totally normal in real life, but for 36h on is sergent the other major and the next week end it's change according to the "scenario" of the game. At least it'not more dumb than other type of roleplay, like pretending you are an elf and you friend a dwarf.
I was at a airsoft event, during a game I called out a target to my buddy, after that game back in the safe zone a teenage kid comes up to me and my buddy and tells us we used the wrong call out. Yeah...
Maybe my story was lacking details and some people of the internet can’t quite get the subtitles of a summarised story . I’d been playing airsoft for about 10yrs at that point, my buddy is ex-army, the kid was actually incorrect in what he was saying and the way he approached and told us was just rude.
@@kaloyandraganov9462 theres really no wrong way to call out a target in the real world. the only thing that ever matters is radio usage because someones always monitoring it
Trust me, most airsoft people in the community hates these same type of people. I think it's effective for shooting and more so, teamwork, but it's far from military training.
Yea there's also a difference between running tactical and running MilSim. Running tactical means going slow, checking all your corners, pushing when the time is right, using grenades and lights and such. Running MilSim means running a squad equipped with full plate carriers, mid-low cap mags, radios, sign language, night vision(should there even be a need for it), and strobing every doorway, window, and corner.
I didn't even know there were people who took it seriously lol I thought this was gonna be a video about cheaters and cry babies (I don't play airsoft, just watched some online compilations)
*Me signing up for a milsim game and showing wearing a banana suit and a chest rig and a speaker strapped to my back blasting the Thomas the tank engine theme holding down the trigger on a PKP*
See, as a soldier of 13 years and a well established NCO, I really enjoy airsoft milsim events. I am very cognisant of the fact that many kids play and don't call their hits. And if there's one thing that does piss me off, it's those mf's that fire full auto at 20rounds/sec. Otherwise, with standard weapons, I really do like them.
@@ExecutionerDan sometimes you find your path in the forces and stick to it. for me when I get my killicks I'll be staying as that for a dam long while. a ton more money but no where near the stress of the senior rates. typically if someone in the forces has held a rank for a long while. its because its a choice to remain that rank
Airsoft player here, really hate these guys. People who don't get that it's just a game are so annoying, of course a soldier in Afghanistan wouldn't use a pink M4 with their waifu on it but guess what? I'm not in Afghanistan, I'm on a field for playing airsoft rushing B because that's hella fun
@@Alertacobra12 1 Asuka is hot af. Forgiven. 2 I would totally do that if i was down range - reference: in the military. Nothing more demoralizing than seeing your m8 killed by a guy with a waifu pistol. Pair that with a hentai knife - and you've got a religious fanatic giving you a nickname.
HEY!!! my grandfather was a soldier in Afghanistan using a pink M4 and he had the coolest get up of his genny man... don't patronize!... :D nah but you're spot on. People should play to have fun, and not to be wannabe toysoldiers.
This is the exact reason I quit playing. I’ve been playing paintball for 15 years and ran in nation wide tournaments for a few of those years, so I played airsoft like paintball - aggressive, same posture and form, diving and sliding the same, snap shooting, etc. and I wore my paintball pants and mask just because they’re comfy and protective and I already owned them. You can’t aim properly with a pb mask so you have to use an awkward pull and grip. One time a game organizer ran up to me and started screaming about my grip, stance, this isn’t paintball, and how you’d never fire a real weapon like that - after I just absolutely smoked half the other team in a run-through and took the obj. I replied “so what it’s not a real gun and I just got 8 kills in 10 seconds because I’m playing it like paintball” He was just out for me because I was obviously a paintball player and wasn’t larping like the other guys running gear that cost 10x more than my $130 AEG with a hicap mag. That was the last time I went. The community in my area is nowhere as chill and fun as the paintball community. Paintball doesn’t try to be something it isn’t unless you’re going to a scenario game, and even then it only goes so far as setting up fun rules and objs to fit the theme of the game.
Sorry you had to go through that. I've been to almost every field within a 2 hour drive from my house and have only had 1 instance of that happen to me. It was a casual King of the Hill game outdoors with no minimum engagement distance for FPS under 350. I had flanked around the side of the field, in bounds, and wiped most of the enemy team from behind with my DMR build from about 50 feet(minimum distance for my build was 40), and one of the refs came up and yelled at me that this wasn't some MilSim op and I can't be playing the game all sneaky and strategic like I was because that's not fair for others, and I ended up getting the game coordinator out to settle this and I guess the guy gave all "non casual" players a hard time cuz he had different standards for how the game should be played. The problem was I didn't even really have to sneak around while I was flanking the enemy was just not paying attention to their flanks and it cost them. Again, sorry that happened to you, and I hope if you ever move to the Pacific North West you'll give the fields and arenas a try cuz the community is almost always chill af and we welcome everyone like brothers and sisters.
Airsofters in general hate players like you,basicaly speedsofters.... So im not really shocked that you got yelled at by organizer,happened to me a few times after i rushed a building full of kids because they were camping. Im milsimer myself and i hate speedsofters instead of trying to hit with a few shots they just shower every square inch they can with bb
@@l4st_s4mur4i I dont have too much experience with airsoft, but I do play Onward (a VR milsim game) competitively on a team. My take on this is that if a strategy works, it's fair game. From a competitive perspective, the strategy that you refer to as speedsofting is not too effective if the opposition team knows how to pick their angles, know how to actually use cover, and understand team layout. Just like airsoft, Onward has a very low ttk, so I think its fair to say skills can transfer. Generally on my team we have one person lag behind as a sort of "flanker insurance". In the league, generally pulling crazy rushes like that is considered a lower tiered strategy because it works really well when they are in a pub game or against newer teams, but as they climb the ranks, they find that running out in the open will put them at a disadvantage to the person who just barely has their head poking out of cover. In pub lobbies, being at such an angle disadvantage can still be compensated for by just having good aim and a faster reaction time, but when you play competitively you cant expect to have that advantage anymore. Especially in larger areas where the rusher has to scan basically every potential spot within 180° for a potential threat, whilst it only takes one person in good cover watching one, maybe two expected routs a rusher might take take to stop that push.
the one really valuable skill that airsoft might help instill in people (especially young kids just getting into the sport, or people who one day plan to use real firearms for hunting, sport, or military apps) is gun safety; knowing where your weapon is pointed, muzzle and trigger etiquette, making sure your safety is on, etc. Definitely not the same as real firearms, but a good intro. Really cool insights in this vid :)
theyre almost identical to firearms wym😂 gbb rifles are basically the same thing just different bullets and airsoft rifle skills can be used when you eventually move onto real ones
i went to play airsoft today, i have military experience so i know how to handle real firearms. You don't want to know how often i've told people not to flag me in the safe zone and when clearing buildings/tunnels. when i'm wearing my mask its not a big deal but when you're in the safezone where no one is wearing a mask you really have to be aware of it even though no one is. Accidents happen and eyes are irreplacable
@@joshkiej6601 that sort of stuff should be handled by the ones in charge. The club I run with have a committee and a couple have military experience. There are clear signs before entering the safe zones saying to remove mags from guns and the chamber is clear before entering, there's a martial there to make sure
Good point. The air guns that unloaded at high speeds some unneeded but heck I dont want the govt getting involved. Common sense would be nice. Or just make the turds pay the price.
@@mykneesarebees7242 if it's one of those really cheap "imma absorb everything so you can never get me clean" shirts, the ink is already absorbed by the fabric, and cannot be smeared.
Playing airsoft made me respect the people who protect my country even more. Even though it's a game it does make it painfully obvious that something as simple as walking through the wrong door could get you killed if it were for real.
In places like Afghanistan or Iraq every tree, house, foliage, car, hill or group of civilians could have a gun aiming at you. So a simple patrol means you have to be 100% switched on. When you see movies and characters are on patrol and they are talking about things that are pure distracting you know it is not close to being real. You are thinking who the hell would be saying something like that right now.
Also FF .. you realise that you shot your own in real life you would have killed your brother in arms. I think Airsoft could be a very nice stepping stone if people would learn and dont be ignorent ... same for trigger discipline.
@@shaddaboop7998 Not when they are on a patrol in a dangerous area. And they most certainly do not have conversations while on patrol and not paying attention.
@@bighands69 If you say so. As far as I'm aware they were never really afraid of the Taliban, most casualties were caused by IEDs before everybody realised that angled belly armour on vehicles might be a good idea.
A soldier once told me, When u never been in line of fire then all your training means nothing. When your life is on the line then u know if u are a bad ass or a coward.
Yup. I played back in my teens and 20s many friends enlisted after but i gotta say we wer baddass airsoft players they still even talk about it even after real tours in afgan and iraq. the recruiters office would send marines straight out of boot camp and theyed only last 2minutes (in the forrest and cqb village) they tended to charge the enemy. While airsoft is more guerrilla tactics and instinct unless you play those huge milsim ops. RUclips "torrington airsoft village "the one with the Halo soundtrack and filmed on toaster. We even had tunnels and 3floor tower
@Cerebral non veteran here, what do you mean they were fun? Not hating or anything, I am beyond thankful for your service, God bless you. I am just curious what aspects of it were fun exactly.
@Cerebral Ahhhhhhh I see what you mean, I can see that now. Well thank you again for everything you've done, I hope I can provide just as much as you have for this world someday (not being sarcastic). Stay strong ma friend and may the best come your way!
I played my first paintball game a couple years ago, I was a coward in that, I'd suck at real combat. I'm glad not everyone is like me and there are people willing to put their lives on the line for our country.
This is why I got out of Airsoft. When I was in High School it was really fun because I just played with some friends. Then after I got out of BCT and Infantry School, I got invited to a mil-sim type thing. The guy that invited me was a friend of my brothers, and after we played and had fun, he asked me to take a look at his packet. This guy, who never served a day in his life, wanted me to join his "Company" that had obligations like, weekly company runs, weekend squad tactics. He even created a fake rank system. This guy was trying to create his own version of the Army because he had too many bad raps on his record to actually join for real. He had a legit contract written up. This is why I will never return to it unless my veteran buddies invite me. I will play with down to earth people. Not people wanting an alternate reality to be real.
@BHG WOLF487 look I understand being denied what could be your greatest honor in life, but if you want to so something similar that is more practical, join a tactical shooting team like USPSA or USCCA. Don't larp in airsoft. Take care brother.
Man it sucks the "sport" was ruined for you like that. In most of the milsim events I've been to 99% of the players treated it like it's meant to be treated: a fun game. But then there's always that occasional group of either grown ass men or 16 yr old kids that think their SF in the fight of their lives. Do what you want obviously but don't be afraid to give it another try at a local field. Those can be a lot more of a "casual" environment.
I think it's fine to roleplay semi-seriously for the sake of immersion, or act competitively to get that win. As long as everyone recognizes it for what it is and nobody is forced into something they don't want, there's no problem with airsoft itself. It's just like a video game, except outside - and as such, there are more and less serious approaches to the theme.
Pretty much, except if someones booked a serious milsim and they all have their fancy ranks, formations, group structure and tactics sorted out. Let them have their fun and if you dont want to follow their rules just leave. it's that simple. Let people play, beach volleyball isnt serious either but you're gonna be kicked off the sand if you dont play volleyball.
The 2 times I played was 1 me going completely overboard yelling random call signs and codes And getting hit over reacting My friend got shot in his mask and dropped on the spot I then ran up to his body screaming "NOOOOOO YOU BASTARDS!!!!! " the other time we just ran around making the gun sounds. While wearing trex outfits
was rejected by every branch of the military due to having asthma in my childhood. scored a 68 on the ASVAB and even did JROTC all 4 years in high school. I crave the military experience and everything that goes along with it but milsim seems to be the closest I'll ever get
Military depends which branch you join for the experience you get. I’m USAF/aircraft mx and it’s basically just a normal job except for TDYs/deployments. I’ve been in 8 years and marines truly amaze me even still; they are some of the craziest, bravest men and women I’ve ever met.
@@Goalatio Some army guys are cool too, like field artillery. Losing your voice and pumping huge bullets into a tube seems like a hard fuckin job to do over n over
People: eats mres because milsim just like military haha Me: *"oh hey thats cheap and its a full meal in some small bag and i can fit like 20 of them in some sears backpack sign me the hell up"*
And even in the military, people wouldn't eat that shit. You wouldn't believe how long you can survive off smoked sausages and ramen noodles. This shit is a lot better than canned shit, that you find in the MRE's. Probably matter of taste, but 3 years of service and I wouldn't even want to ratfuck someones MRE, even if they paid me to do it. And one pack of MRE's is a lot heavier and takes a lot more room than your own store bought shit.
Steven Ohakwe I’m not gonna just waste perfectly good military MREs on being a coach potato. That’s a waste of money and a big middle digit to the people who made it. These things are supposed to last a while right? Could store them away until the 24 hour and 2 day airsoft matches come back.
its not about that, these slovakian army guys got called so many times that they just cheat and dont called a hits (like evergreen in airsoft) and some times people were right. It was not about that didnt want to play fair play, it was because of their training when they just "push until they drop out" and when people like that sometimes just dont feel the hit of bbs. People who play airsoft are more aware of that than an army guy who is more likely to be aware of his surroundings that flying bbs.
Airsoft is just Call of Duty IRL so don't be surprised you'll see squeakers or people who claim they know everything because they've play games that has tactics on it.
the doctor airsoft even in a milsim event, the game is structured around toy guns, most of which have a max engagement distance of around 200 ft. In a lot of cases you end up with people who can see each other awkwardly trying to maneuver around each other to get into distance. You can still learn a lot of stuff from airsoft like manual of arms, kit selection and placement, but marksmanship isn’t one of them. You can also learn a lot of the same things from video games depending on the person and what they try to use the activity for. But at the end of the game of airsoft is a sport and in most cases can be fairly analogized to a real life version of a video game including especially the types of people you find in the community, a spectrum ranging from people that just want to have fun, to try hards, to toxic members and everything in between.
I play airsoft but a little different, Basically me and my friends dress as crusaders and rush while screaming TAKE BACK THE HOLY LAND, yeah we don't succeed alot.
@@firestarters9308 It is, it really is. Costs alot of money though since you gotta by crusader outfits shields one handed airsoft guns and it just costs a whole lot
There’s another side to airsoft called speedsoft where you basically just rush with you gun and a paintball mask on. You usually just wear sneakers, sweats, a hoodie, and a beanie. It’s much more fun with no military tactics involved.
I've got a friend who literally almost single-handedly captured the enemy flag with a pistol in one hand and a can of root beer in the other. That's speedsofting right there.
I don't have anything against speedsoft as a gameplay style. I just like wearing camo, using realistic looking guns and playing outside. In fact, a friend of mine is more of a speed softer.
I could see learning how to maneuver a weapon around cover/concealment, or communicating with a team could be a takeaway, but it couldn't ever be the same as being in a real fight.
Also, when no one is taking it seriously the guy with the fastest reflexes in the sport tends to get a lot of kills. Similar to why COD players with the fastest internet get all the kills. It's not actual military training, but it can help teach you the mindset of seek your enemy and destroy them, lol
@Lloyd Christmas People with the best connection in a lobby, don't necessarily get all the kills. I would agree with your statement a few years ago though. According to my experience when you weren't the host of the game, and the game was hosted by someone really far away (let's say someone from European servers joins an American server), you'd definitely feel the disadvantage. In addition, when you live in a place where the possibility of a decent internet connection is physically absent in the means of no actual cables being laid out in that area whatsoever, you can definitely forget to play any online multiplayer games, as your ping would go up into the thousands sometimes. Luckily, as of a few years ago, they have laid out cables in our town. The internet has gotten exceptionally better since then; but that hasn't given me any advantages at all.
@Lloyd Christmas I have always tried to stay respectful even though it's "just the internet". Plus, I might be just as clueless on that topic as anyone else here.. just wanted to share what I have experienced personally :D
@Fondil Mahbols it’s not in reference to the casual player.. It’s in reference to the people who ruin the fun by demanding that others call them “sarge” or try bringing in strategies from real war. If you want to be called by the title and give order, during a fun day out.. the man yeah, go join the army big man 😂
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg the rank thing is obviously retarded, I personally can't join any military due to physical and mental problems so "hardcore" milsim is the closest I'll ever get to experiencing real combat. Still the whole eating MREs and demanding people to salute is a bit too far. Although if it was part of a milsim I think I'd be up for it
Because I can't and have a chronic disease. Although I don't take it this seriously. I see it as playing call of duty in real life. I like the sport a lot and have a lot of fun
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg I think its fine to take it past playing casually. There is alot of enjoyment to be had by playing things competitively. I agree, people shouldn't be delusional and think airsoft is real life, but I dont think its in any way bad to try and encorporate real military strategy in a competitive environment. On my team (not airsoft, but similar) when we first started playing competitively, we were looking for a way to build up some system of strategy. We were faced with two(ish) options: 1: build all of our strategy from scratch by trial and error or by talking game theory and pouring over maps, or two- studying already established techniques that are used for combat in the military (or other competitive teams). We went with a mix of both. Then through testing them out in scrim we used what worked, and got rid of what did not. Throughout that whole time we never even considered that what we were doing was actually analogous to real life. We took it seriously, but had all the more fun for it.
I mean it is fun and can be a cool thing to roleplay a little too, especially if it's related to history. But the problem lies with when you stray from reality and think you are your "character." I would love to see those guys actually enlist and see how far they get.
@@legendary6790 Yeah. I mean, I get really into airsoft when I go. However, I would never have the bravery to enlist and get into combat. Those are two completely different things.
Thanks for this video I'm from Argentina, I started playing airsoft recently because I wanted to be a marine in my youth but I couldn't. This sport gave me the opportunity to play a role, of course, I knew it would be far from reality, but I decided to try and be serious about learning, I looked for tactics and put effort into it. But I started noticing the high level of toxicity that took the fun out of everything, people with some kind of experience blaming everyone and not accepting the defeat. At one point I was in a corridor listening to the sound of markers and explosions, and it dawned on me how hard the life of a military man must be, the high degree of experience and determination that is required, and that day I decided to have fun and take the opportunity to learn because I understood that any discipline that you practice it will always give you a small advantage when it comes to resolving situations, but that depends on our determination and willpower. With Airsoft I am setting up my mind to resolve situations, think faster and adapt. This can be useful in any state of your life. And the toxic people can not do that, and the worst, can not enjoy it.
I’m the guy running around with a ushanka on my head and a fur coat with a tt33 and a can of pink lemonade in the other hand that’s what I operate with
I’ve been playing airsoft for nearly a year now and have no experience in the military and completely agree that there are some people that take it way to seriously but those kinda people usually go to “popular” airsoft sites, the site I play at it’s a local site and everyone there is super friendly and I’d say 95% of the community is nice and helpful it is a very small percentage that ruin the fun by being either cheaters or using crappy tactics or taking it overly seriously, but a lot of the time the stuff on RUclips is faked so they can get clicks from my experience I’ve had so much fun and encourage anyone to start or try and get into the sport look around your area if there are any local sites and see how to get in touch
Yeah the MRIs and think they’re legit military operators. Now they need to paint rocks and pull guard duty and clean the barracks on the weekend and sacrifice liberty.
@@JamesonsTravels and add on having to deal with idiots on barracks who crap on the floor or Blue Falcon the entire company for simply not keeping their room clean even after the X.O. screams at their sorry butt. We even had that at Military School. We ate MRE's on Barracks because at times it was better than our Mess Hall food which would tear our stomachs apart. or we would cook ramen in the sinks with the boiling sink water, and regret it like 1 hour later.
There's also grown men and women playing video games nowadays... This was considered weird too before gaming became main stream. In the end though Airsoft is nothing but a game. Some people take it to serious yea but it still a game and meant to be for entertainment just like paintball. Its all about perspective and having an open mind nothing more.
@@JustiXNL I don't think he means it's weird for adults to play airsoft. He means if a kid wants to say I'm a seal and wear a patch that's fine and pretty expected but adults that shits just....not ok
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Exactly. It's fine to play airsoft as an adult but to take it seriously, get overly mad when you lose and pretend like your some kind of Spec Ops guy when your not is very weird.
Grown men tackling a leather ball and risking their spines seems weirder to me... As long as they aren't claiming to be a real soldier when they're not, I see no problem.
Wolfgang Villarreal I don’t know about the conflated attitude. Each sports bound to have its fair share of jackasses. I’m simply referring to the physical aspect. It’s better for your body.
Aye man good to you but when i run around i eaither get lots of kills or my cheeks clapped....in general im more of a reserved corner camping loser that fuels off of toxicity XD i main cav and shit for that reason but like i love sitting around a random copper ass corner with a shotgun yo lay the dude out instantly and see him bitch in chat...but if ima run around like chicken with its head cut off i do main blitz for that with 60 hrs...tryin to hit that fat 100 hrs lmao
Same, I was at a friends house and he let me play around and kept telling me “this isn’t like COD you gotta be careful” so I played like a meme and wiped out 4 people on the opposing team
"Everytime something went wrong they blamed everyone around them but not themselves"... I thought you said they weren't in the military? these guys sound like top brass
This is why, my loadout is made to be as ridiculous as possible I wear a bicycle helmet and a side bag, and I use a Deagle as my sidearm with an ak-74u with a Thompson on the way lol
Allied military bro who has a pretty heavy hand in airsoft here. Some of the stuff you learn in the military can apply very well to airsoft. For example, how to use cam and concealment, how to clear corners, even chatting on a radio. I can say that the biggest thing I apply is consistency in maintaining and storing my gear so I know where everything is. Other than that, it is a video game with cardio and the only things that should be taken seriously in it is safety and fairness. Of course, I'm always willing to talk about the time I ran around with no pants in the middle of a short game to provide a distraction. Airsoft does have a lot of whiners in it, sadly, and aside from not playing with them there isn't much you can do about it. Honestly, hang with the right crew in it and you'll have a blast and make friends.
I agree with you about these whiners. There are always two things that shows difference between a toy gun battle vs a real battle. First you can Die ( of course )😐 Second there is fear. In airsoft, you can keep shooting people who are under cover and still would fire back. Because there is no fear in game. But in a real battle, fear changes everything. You will not find anyone acting like a spec Ops without even knowing the situation. And everybody would try to stay alive as possible. And in real life, you dont need to kill the whole enemy group to win, they will surrender if there is no use of fighting. You can even capture the enemy without hurting any of them. And i agree these whiners are annoying with their wannabe Spec Ops adult friend in midlife crisis.
@@motoangelio7648 I love it how the hard core airsoft people act as if they are the toughest people in the world but if they would ever get shot at they would probably start pissing themselves
@@motoangelio7648 You can make them surrender believe me :D Especially if you wear full ghillie that you can actually use in your environment and you point your Colt 1911 on them :D This happened so many times
I think the problem arises when people think their, vests and body armor, optics helmets etc etc makes them something special. I don't have a problem with being serious and RPing and using tactics and so on but if the people can't get out of the role that's the problem. Just because you are wearing military uniforms doesn't mean you are not playing a game. Take it easy, have fun and don't take it too serious.
yeah most military holsters and pouches are like design to airsoft like belts you can have your mags in and drop pouches you can have your emty mags in. and boots that feel good to stand in. And most inportant the gloves and drink pouches
Im same with you but idc if they dress up as long as they don't start some weird group where thay make fake ranks and require weekly meetings and their bs training and try to act like the millitsry for a fucking airport game. That's too far. But for yea idc wear the fancy getup and realistic guns, roll around on the ground act like a seal team 6 soldier knock down doors and yell bravo 6 going dark. It's fine as long as after the game you go back to being a normal dude.
Airsoft and Paintball make you realise how easily you can get hit in a real firefight....But I agree...in the end its nothing more than a game. Respect to those who earned their patches and put their lives on the line to protect us civilians on the real battlefield.
Being a paintball player I can relate to this. Some people are taking the game way to serious. It's meant to be fun. Yes, there has to be some kind of seriousness like gun handling(Once a friend of mine and me visited a shooting range - when I held a real gun for the first time I was jittering o.O). But we ain't soldiers and I was never in the military. So why act like that? Best wishes from germany :)
I would argue at least in paintball they have teams and championships, its usually less all out war and more of a team deathmatch thing. So some of the dudes do have that right if they want to compete
Personally I love pretending I'm in the military, pretending I'm strong, smart, and able to do what needs to be done like real soldiers. But I have no illusions that I could do those things for real, first off I'm skinny and weak as heck, I have no stamina, and I wouldn't even be able to join the military because of asthma and some other heath issues. Yes there are those that take it to far and act as if they have the right to the same respect actual veterans deserve. But with a heathy perspective on things it's great fun. You can have fun know it's a game, and be friendly at the same time as acting as if it's real, taking things seriously. I have the greatest respect for veterans and I look up to them a lot, which is I guess why I like to pretend to be one, I think there awesome. I do have to say I think I do more than many probably would, I go out of my way to learn gun safety, and then apply it to playing games. Since my parents don't let me play airsoft I do it with other things, nerf guns are 1 example, because I find it fun to pretend to do something I know I can't do for real. Also I know it's not training for real situations, but if your holding something that is like a gun, it can help to practice gun safety with that so if/when you hold a real gun, you already have muscle memory of how to treat it, not pointing at people is a odd one that can be learnt but generally I'd say not the best to practice with a toy gun you are supposed to point at others😂, but trigger dissaplin (sorry for my bad spelling) is 100% something that can, and I have learnt from playing with toy guns. As a direct result of me playing with toys (in a way that, I do understand, most people don't), when I am old enough to get a gun and practice in my back yard I am far less likely to shoot myself or someone else by mistake. Which is always a good thing. (Kinda a ramble and kinda related but not to the first paragraph, got a bit carried away lol)
@@ReaperPLUR In Paintball we have something called 'magfed' which is a growing sport. We now have paintball guns that look like AR 15's and AK's that feed through a magazine instead of a hopper. it's still not nearly as toxic as Airsoft as paintball literally leaves a mark so you have to call your hits. We have something called first strike, which are improved, aerodynamic paintballs (very expensive) used to shoot further. I love it.
as Hemingway once wrote , once you've hunted man their's no other game to play , beirut , with the contra's ( central america in the mid to late 80's) and the Sarajevo conflicts of the 90"s , their is no substitute for a real blood , sweat and fear fire fight
On the Xbox 360 there was a game called Over-G Fighters, a great many of the community were just average joes working the 9 to 5; but we all larp'd around with brevity calls and tactical formations and it was fun! I don't get the spazing out a lot of people do.
That is the fun part, trying to use tactics to sweep buildings in the right way without getting shot in the back...... And a big part of arma is just The Zeus messing with your head and you screaming at them.
Everyone's a sniper in Arma, lol. I can safely say that it's not at all the same, IRL. So many things will make you miss that aren't programmed into the game. Shooting at that distance takes a hell of a lot more experience than, "I used mildots in Arma, once". And then there's so many other things, from the weight of all the gear for even a light patrol, to the sounds and visuals of combat. None of it is the same in paintball or video games. There'd be lawsuits if they made games as loud as real life.
@@tyvernoverlord5363 haha was a nice game indeed.. we did some airshows and everybody dropping bombs at once stuff haha.. really wished for a part 2 instead of ace combat and such
To be honest an MRE wouldn't be a terrible idea to have at an event like this. I aquire them when I can and they are great for hunting and camping trips.
I can definitely understand why someone with military experience would get annoyed by milsim. At the same time, if the milsim guys are having fun who cares
Because in the video the main part of mil-sim they don't like are the people who ruin it for everyone else, and try to make everyone else see them as someone that has actual knowledge in military, which they don't, because it's just a game
@@owenreynolds9599 iv played in a mil sim event before. And every squad had 1 military vet in charge. It made the game very fun when you have good guys helping
Yeah I've watched the video he's reacting to before and it's extremely bias, Milsim players really aren't as bad as they are trying to make it seem like. If anything they sound extremely butt hurt, and the issues they stated are extremely rare, i've been playing milsim for a really long time now and I've seen only maybe a few of those issues in that time. But hey this may be because they are playing in an entirely different country. The dudes making the video are Slovenian airsofters apparently.
Personally I play in a CQB arena so I don't have the problem they have, in CQB most people run a minimalist loadout because ultimately the goal is to be aggressive and agile, definitely hope to play at an outdoor field soon tho
"I like driving my car, but I'm not capable of driving a Formula One car." Great quote. I agree 99%, as that quote's true for every Formula One car / Race car except for the 2019 and 2020 Williams F1 cars. They're so slow if you record them in slow motion you go backwards in time
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I don't hate airsoft. Before saying that watch the video. More milsim - ruclips.net/p/PLeU0ya-0QayQbVFxztx4K3Q-u5yn5o7Q0
Jamesons Travels I don’t hate it by any means. I just personally can’t justify the cost. No disrespect to anyone who plays, we all have our hobbies.
I played airsoft once, it is fun. But I do not agree with the fact that mil-sim can not translate to airsoft. It absolutely can when training correct. You could apply the same strategy as used in military training. The problem is, that most of them actually think they are SF and get cocky.
and using official military patches like Green berets, SEAL Team 6, etc. Thats just retarded.
I play it often I’ve seen those guys take it seriously but a lot of those guys are your wanna be super tactical dudes but a lot of the more laid back guys are usually actual instructors and vets or jus chill dudes
in my country ( holland ) its funny because i come from the shooting sports side and recently went into airsoft because some guys i play video games with invited me over and i liked it but on the shooting sports side the dynamic disciplines like parkour shooting we are not allowed to wear pouches and other clothing that is in camouflage colours because thats to militaristic yet on airsoft they walk in 1000's euros of gear and uniforms and no one says a damn thing about it and yes i must admit i have a uniform myself but it makes no sense that in the shooting sports its not allowed because they think we are training for combat and all that and i hear no one complain about airsoft
where they use smoke grenades pyrogrenades and vehicles with armor and bb machineguns on it
and also there are so many whiney cringy people in airsoft that is completly true but the worst is that most of em are like 30+ old people and not even like the people in their early 20's like me
I can honestly say as a veteran with years of experience and tours, I get my arse kicked playing airsoft all day and on console games. Kids think differently and are fearless.
I can see that. Like video games. They know its just a sting or loss of video game life, so they go hard without fear. My comments in the video could go from airsoft or gun range D bags. Its more just whiners that ruin it.
Bro, I played paintball while was on active duty, and it was fun especially I get opposite team guy on inside the thigh and they cry. In real tours, when bullets bouncing of dirt piles infront of me, I ain't getting up and rushing shit. They are fearless bc there is nothing to be afraid off.
It's all fun and games until a 7.62 cracks over your head Haha
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Exactly; paintballs can at most give you welts, not holes through your body. Mad respect to vets and servicemen/women
Main thing between playing war and being in one is soldiers trained for mental and physical toughness bc being able to squeeze trigger is a tip of an iceberg of being a soldier. Physical and mental stress firefight puts on you is so high, if you weak, you might forget how to even squeeze a trigger when enemy pointing gun at you. During my deployments, I have seen good soldiers completely fail to protect themselves or others and lose any ability advance. Your visuals, noises and understanding what can and may be will happen to you when you get hit by shit can be extremely frightening, its not your imagination its what you see already happened to other guys. Can never compare combat to playing combat especially CQB, close quarters battle, i.e. inside buildings. War is ugly bitch. I am retired combat vet, with extensive injuries and almost lost limb and 27 confirmed kills (thats not counting what hasn't been recorded.) often after different battles, you simply can't even right up correct report on enemy forces that have been taken out. It's a fucking mess. A lot of time you don't think, you train a lot and same ah8t over and over, so when stress is beyond comorehendable, you go on autopilot and just duxking survive this shit. No thinking. Clap clap clap next room, grenade boom, back missed a guy clap clap clap, my buddy down, medic, no medic, moving forward clap clap clap, you take to in a chest plate, fall backwards on your ass use your feet to push off to any cover as boy behind takes out your ticket puncher, extend his arm, you grab it, on your feet, pop mag check rounds, lock and load and back at clapping following guys who are now ahead of you. By this time you look back and other medic made it to you boy, they dragging him out. You think "stay alive bro, I am gonna dust these bitches, skin alive, cut their head off and fuxk them in a hole where had use to be, fuck it. I am God of war, God of War, I am not dying today for my country, I am gonna let those fucks die for their country, you keep telling yourself inside your head. As gun shots, explosions, screams and dust blocking everything in your head, but you blocking it all off and concentrate on your teammate screaming commands or moves they make, its essential to stay alive. That's why they say once a combat veteran no matter what branch, your mentality is extremely different from an average guy. You can concentrate in a middle of chaos on few things and nothing will interrupt you,not fear, not pain, not anger. Having clear head in hell, thats what makes a good soldier/marine. Etc. YOU DONT FRACTURE UNDER ANY TYPE OF PRESSURE OR STRESS. But you will end up with bad ptsd, and it will kick in when its al behind you and done and over with. It will eat at you, just can't help it.
I tried airsoft once, but they started bitching about my gas grenades. Apparently chlorine gas isn't allowed .
H U H
lol if you actually set it off i would lmfao off that stuff fuckin stings like fuk
xD hahahahahaha nice call
pussies
*Bruh*
I once got mocked by an airsoft "commander" in front of everyone for not wearing a military uniform. I thought I was going to have fun not enlist.
You should get some union blues or confederate grays and then you can say you have a uniform
@@stlouislord28 I'm going to get myself some early 1800s Prussian uniforms now that you mention it.
oh wow what a decorated commander
Lmao that must be a very sad person.
Wow
It’s always those guys who say “I would’ve joined the military, but I would’ve punched a drill sergeant in the face” guys who crack me up.
Everyone says that till they’ve got one in their face, trust me I’ve seen it
I would Love to them get yelled at by one tho
@@K1NGBabyLegs I mean, if you could legally do it I'm sure many people would. Military guys would get their ass wooped in hand to hand by anyone who is in shape and has casually trained martials arts from childhood to adolescence. The only reason no one does it is because it would land them in jail.
@Christian Rafiki Perez Kong 'i dont have proof look it up'😂 Cap ass stfu
@Christian Rafiki Perez Kong As a Marine veteran I can tell you right now everything you are saying is complete bullshit. Do not speak about something you have no firsthand knowledge or experience in.
You can’t buy chronic back and knee pain, alcoholism, and depression at an airsoft store
Or a dependa , Jodey and a divorce.
@Luke L. War is hell, toy war is fun.
Mixing the two and taking the second for the first is stupid.
Luke L. No one says that
@Luke L. Where in his comment did he say any of that
Shit already got that with out ever being in the military or playing airsoft
Most fun I had during air soft was dressed in a full tux while running around with duel pistols. Felt like John Wick.
I did something similar, I wore exactly what I wore to prom put on some old person cologne and went in with just a pistol and a bad French accent. Was amazing
i need friends like you guys
@@henrijs1733 Same
I swear I can imagine you in that sport suit, standing next to the wall, with the duallies, count to three and rush out yelling while it starts to become slow motion, you down two, shoot at a can, that explodes, and you just run through it. I dont even know you.
how did you aim???
The guy who doesn’t call his hits: *Reality can be whatever I want*
Rewriting that hit as: "Doesn't count"
Thats why i like paintball
@@momsom321 I play a lot of paintball. Yes, the paint helps for sure but I had to light someone up more than once after they recovered miraculously after a headshot.
@@leerzeichn93 i mean airsofters have pretty thick clothing and i cant imagine that with clothing on youll feel a light plastic little thing hit you.
Brr Young you usually don’t feel it but you can hear the bb hit you.
Personally, i think both ways of playing airsoft are gnarly. Its cool to have a serious-ish milsim game when everyone agrees on rules etc. and its also fun to run and gun screaming leroy jenkins in close quarter games lol
I couldn't agree with you any more!!! The style of game play/rules should be established before you start playing..
At the end of the day balance is key, if you only do hardcore milsim even when others are run and gunning youll never have fun and neither will others the same way if you run and gun when others are milsimming youll get hated on and wont have fun. As long as you balance both out and keep it realistic but also have sessions where you remember its just a game its alright. Balance is key everywhere.
100% agree
That's it. I think the video was made by a sad guy who gets angry seem people being happy doing that they like. Even wearing special units uniform, patches and all, they are not pretending to be a specialized soldier. It's just to look cool in the game and have fun
Lets do it sneaky beaky like.. and when we are last on ground.. then honey badger mode :D
Airsoft was good for me because it was a fun workout. I actually went from being a 300lb school teacher, dropping a hundred lbs, and joined the Army as an 11B. So it was a good sport for me, however we had a few guys that stepped into the realm of stolen valor, which doesnt fly considering how many veterans play.
Airsoft looks like a great work out a good way to kill some time. Better than sitting inside playing video games or staring at Instagram. Thanks for the comment.
Jamesons Travels I would love to try airsoft but I can’t afford all the stuff they use and my parents arnt gonna take me places all the time so I play video games a lot
Frap ive been wanting to play it since I was twelve, now I’m 19 and play it every now and then. You can rent the stuff and go maybe like once a month
Rick Dalton how much does it cost to rent gear? And a gun?
Frap I get what ur saying lmao I’ve dropped over 1k into just my gun. but I don’t play milsim I play speedqb
I started using my knife to conserve ammo. The guys at the airsoft weren't very happy about it.
Don’t think they were very mad about it either. You know drowning on there blood and all that.
I wouldnt be happy too, if u would try out your real knife on me :D
Like... a plastic one?
Yoooo this was good
😂😂😂
Me and my friends dressing up as clone troopers playing airsoft
Wouldn't want to be the jedi on that team though...
Me and my friends dress up as Wehrmacht and Soviets and would go to the woods and shoot Airsoft ww2 rifles at each other.
China dressing up clones as troopers
Bad ass
@@stassmith8200 Go to somewhere really frosty and snowy, find an abandoned building complex, RP the battle of Stalingrad, ???????, Profit.
I’d play airsoft often a few years back, and I’d wear a full green arrow cosplay costume and run around with a single green gas pistol with an extended mag. It was fun because when you’re wearing a costume it would kinda help the people there remember it’s just a game. These mil sim dudes running in with a fictional superhero really makes them look silly when they get a little too into it.
Boutta dress up as a mediocre side character now thanks
Wear dragon age cosplay for extra power
i genuily run like a silly cod caracter
not crouched like tactical nd stuff , i just Run but wiggle my gun side to side
i have been killed so many times but its always fun
Them wearing camo doesn't annoy me what gets me ticked off is when they start wearing patches and tabs they didn't earn.
@@rc59191 I think mostly it’s all in good fun if they’re not claiming that the got them. Although very intense military larping is kinda funny
Requirements to use airsoft for real combat training:
- Proper equipment.
- Proper instructor.
- Proper attitude.
- No toxic participant.
Requirements to use airsoft for fun and games:
- No toxic participant.
Thats a tough requirement, especially for fun and games lol
Ons requirement is impossible.
I need a tutorial I can’t get past step 1/1
@@detectivemarkseven no it isn't
@@ham6303 r/woooosh
Airsoft plays more like a first person shooter than actual military stuff lol. We playing real life call of duty, not training to join the military. 100 percent agree my man
No. You play airsoft like a first person shooter than actual military stuff.
The argument the guy stayed was d bags and people who cared about the rank signs on their suits. Not people who wanted to take the actual gameplay seriously. Ranks have nothing to do with gameplay, except for the tactical purposes such as assigning squadron leader.
Fr they play it like r6
Well, what do you say to the military and police that are adopting airsoft as a training method and its actually working?
@@elian958 that's training what we do is for fun
Ive seen a 12 year Airsoft Vet and Thanked him for his service
"Do you know who your talking to? I'm a expert airsoft operator! I've been to more feilds than 90 percent of everyone in the us! I have the highest spec NVG gear and 500 dollar genuine eotech holographic sights for all of my 600 guns I've collected!"
Probably stolen valor. That kid prob never went through air soft boot camp n doesn't have his air soft vet card...pffft makes me sick
AhAh too funny
hαyᗪEη do you know you spelt field wrong big man
@@negotiator6260 you tell him bro, bet hes crying now👍
Spot on! Arrogant armanisofters shaped my attitudes from the getgo when I started playing airsoft some 13 years ago. Eventually we started calling ourselves the US Baby Seals and making seal sounds in the forests to filter out that kind of people. It worked immediately and ironically we also had a way of easily identifying our teammates without much more than a quick noise. Noone knew what was going on but us, as we ran around doing that x'D
😂😂
Combat Intructors: "Write that down! Write that down!"
Lmfaooo, imagine walking around in the field, not knowing where the enemy is, and then seeing a group of people running towards you making seal sounds
@@yochs8284 Usually they never see us. That's what you should aim for, real encounter or not.
@@Corle0ne ah ok
I'm ex-infantry myself, and I play airsoft now a days. MOST real steel tactics are not applicable, but can be used as a guide to help in certain situations. In terms of training or practice for real life stuff, airsoft really only helps with weapon handling, some CQB stuff like room clearing, and target acquisition.
How do I get in? I live in Ohio and never seen any places for Airsoft
@@Mega-P71 u can search it up online or look manually irl but always use a map or something like that
@@Mega-P71 Get on a forum like airsoftsociety it's really easy to link up with teams in your area.
@@Mega-P71 RUclips isn't Google, friend
When i played airsoft years ago there were loads of Marines (real ones) and they treated it like the fun game that it is, just like loads of Marines love Call of Duty. It’s good stress relief sometimes.
My brother plays with his sons in their air soft games and he's a retired green beret. It's funny too cause my nephews are all geared up and my brother shows up with just a t-shirt, cargo pants, his old combat boots, a baseball hat, and his shooting glasses and he's only armed with 2 pistols and a 3 fake grenades and scream "Leeroy Jenkins!". My nephews would get so embarrassed sometimes cause some guys would say "Who is that crazy guy running around like that?" and they would be like "Yea, that's our dad. He's a green beret."
What an absolute chad
Based and Chadpilled
Your brother sounds like fun to play with (I don’t play so if that was my first time playing I would definitely take that strat)
@@STM7685 Well my brother did a lot of tours in Afghanistan and Iraq from what I can remember so he missed a lot of time with his sons.
@@Yesnog05 oh I’m so sorry! I’m glad he’s ok.
As a guy who plays too many video games, I play airsoft to get that same feeling while getting exercise.
I'm right there with you bro. It's really the only time I'm happy about running.
thats actually smart bro
Exactly! Also it's a thousand times better than VR gaming which is getting better, but once again - I'd rather be outside having fun with friends!
@@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial VR makes me dizzy unfortunately.. Ill probably never use it in the future.
@@dansmith5505 ok ill try ty
I played airsoft in high school, I loved it. I met a member of the hobby team through a law enforcement/firefighting academy during my senior year in HS/Votech. It was about 20 of us kids, all in fun, but we took it seriously. We had a patch of woodland we used to simulate raids, I had some hunting camouflage that I used to great effect sneaking up on individuals. a year and a half later, I was in the airborne infantry, using paint rounds during field problems.
Airsoft is great fun, it's a game that can give you great exercise, and even a bit of training if you play alongside like minded people, using legitimate tactics.
“Some people use military tactics”
My primitive cave man ass: (proceeds to rush the enemy line hip firing a MG42 and listing to rave music in my head set)
Cheeki breeki hardbass and speedsofting
Tri poloski
@@Zhuk-zc8es Party bunker and blitzkrieg
It sounds like a tactic. Not a sound tactic, but it's a tactic.
You got use a speaker instead of headphones. Blitzkrieg: Eurobeat edition.
I remember playing with a vet. He was more immature than the youngest kid I've ever played with. Cheated, complained, and constantly calling the ref. This guy invested so much money into airsoft with a lot of expensive airsoft guns and gear. These kind of people suck playing with especially when you have to pay a fee. Getting stuck with them you kinda have to play until they leave. I liked running around and playing in the dirt and hiding in bushes it more active than sitting at home playing cod.
Depending on the vet I would think. I saw an airsoft video that a ODA guy stayed back and kept the heavier, less in shape guys going. He could of been running up front but he stayed back.
@@dschnauzer11 I should be completely specific and say that not every vet is a terrible sport. I know some cool vets that Id like to pick over others but that guy was a cringe-pile. Who completely Guccis out a gun that shoots plastic bb's? I would always be annoyed driving up to the field and seeing his truck.
Calling the ref is better than fighting him on the field i think. Tbh most vets that are not nice are like that
@@duckboom950 He mainly bothered the ref to say people were cheating(not calling their hits) but it would turn out to be false most of the time. Just because this guy had all the best stuff in his gun doesn't mean the bb's shoot in a straight line or go through cover. I even came up on his whole team once with a flank and instead of shooting them close quarters I just said bang bang to all of them. He turned around and said I didn't get him as his whole team starts walking to spawn. Ain't that a bitch!? Lol
He probably wasn't a combat vet.
The part when he put the Beretta to the guy in the ghillie suits head was fucken Savage😂😂
Was just saying that when I saw your comment lmao hell ya
Reminded me instantly of something that could be in COD 4
5:17
A made a tik tok snippet on it and it blew tf uppp brooo
Anony Mouse whats your @
Went paint balling for the first time today and there was like 10 blokes fully dressed up in military gear taking it way to seriously with patches calling each other captain or whatever, felt cool to run around and shoot paintballs at people and was great exercise, 4 hours of running around climbing jumping etc gives you a different perspective on some people do that in real life as their jobs and major respect to them!
Would definitely do it again! Would love to try air soft
Thankfully I would say that those kind of guys are kinda rare in paintball. I've been playing for a few years now and I've never met any like that. I even play magazine fed paintball which is more mil-sim and would attract more of those types, but nope most mag-fed guys just dress up for fun.
Nothing made me prouder when I was playing paintball at a friends birthday and it was me, vs the rest of the people there (I had 1v4 destroyed the other team prior) and won. I love paintball but kind of want to get into airsoft
Mentions MRE. Me who doesn't even have something to eat during games.
*roleplay as homeless person*
Facts bro. Half the time, I don't even have a water bottle.
"Hobo with a shotgun"
Despite what some may say, MREs are great for keeping your load light while also having some sort of food with you.
@@nathanvandyke9951 Not the best idea my dude. Dehydration is serious and happens very often on the field. I've lost count of how many people I've had to lend some water to because they either forgot or neglected to bring water on the field with them and they ended up getting dehydrated.
@@lenuttt6082 No, they aren't really. Bring a protein bar.
When I play airsoft I run around with a towel on my head shouting things in Arabic, I’m banned from most places I’ve been to
@Garrett yeah of course it was only a joke 😂
AALOHASNACKBARR
@@nicks4802 Im a muslim and I laughed so hard at this
Looool
around my neighborhood you'd be liable to be shot running around like that
Back in the day when i played airsoft Some guy was trashtalking me because i had AK while wearing US uniform. :D
Tfw afghan local forces wear US bdu but also use ak
In Vietnam US soldiers were replacing their m14 (I believe it was that one, don't quote me) for the ak-47 because they were so much better
They have amircan made ak 47s to so they can shut it
@El Cuervito i think it was actually the m16 since it was new it kept on jamming and it was mostly plastic I think
@@ElPatronPerico original M16 was just shittily made. The M16a1 actually was fairly competent, and started seeing respect that the first model could never wish for due to its faults.
I met a guy once who tried to enlist in the marines but tore his ACL i believe (i could be misremembering) and he was heartbroken he couldn’t enlist. His idea was if i cant join i’ll live my life (to an extint) like i am. He trained (once he healed) like a soldier, he hung out with soldiers and copied their diet and training regimen, he got better with weapons. He tried to live vicariously but he NEVER had had any false identification towards what he was. He was a civilian who was INSPIRED by the USMC because he didn’t qualify. I think THAT is totally acceptable he never acted like a big shot. He never tried to steal valor or anything. He gave them the respect they deserve while trying to be the best he could be. THAT is how people should treat airsoft if they want to take it seriously. Don’t have some holier than though mentality. Its a fun game that you can act like a kid during. Dont get delusional. Have fun and feel free to take it a little serious but never forget this is a game
Fax
Bro who cares its just a job
Yep, airsofter here...Airsoft is not Military training...
Military training, is military training.
Airsoft is LARP'ING.
Airsoft isn't military training, but it can be used as military training, but that also doesn't mean that it becomes military training. Some police forces also use airsoft guns like these, and Navy SEALs also used guns similar to these in training.
@@masonallison2495 Last I checked, SEALs use sim-rounds. Something like a paintball put on the tip of a low power bullet. They hurt like a b*tch (far more than BB's or paintballs) and function like real bullets. They wear protection when using them because they can do serious damage if they hit you above the shoulders. They certainly don't use air soft guns.
@@Warrior_Culture That's also why I said they use guns similar to these, and I know they use sim rounds. I don't think that means that they don't or won't use airsoft guns. I didn't even mention anything about rounds anyways. I just talked about the guns that are used. If there's a name for a gun that shoots sim rounds, and it's not an airsoft or paintball gun, please let me know.
@@masonallison2495 Yes, it's called a gun. Sim rounds fire out of regular weapons. They use the same casing and primer as real bullets, but much lower velocity. So by "guns like these" you mean the same shape, sure lol.
@@Warrior_Culture Thank you.
If some dude broke out an MRE in the middle of an air soft match that would be amazing
I break out an MRE when I'm sitting on the couch. Can't get enough of that sloppy joe. lol
@@skater102223111 bruh they just he fun to open and are convinient
You might as well do living history if you're going to that level. I've had a brew up in a world war 1 trench at night and it was one of the best experiences I've had as a re-enactor.
No Name Nothing about an MRE is convenient imo. The bags are sometimes hard to open, everything has its own packaging, your food taste like shit if you don’t use the heater, sometimes your heater is dead even before you open it, your drink bags don’t even dissolve properly in water etc... (US MRE’s what I’m talking about)
Welp... Ill just put my story away...
All discussions aside, this dude absolutely FARMED the other team in his gameplay.
i mean he was in tthe military he has experience then everyone else is new
Bro, I know he got like 90 kills. I love airsoft when its played as a game.
He’s probably played firewall zero hour, that game is stressful as fuck
The main reason they were mad. "Nooo you can't just run and gun, it is serious business".
He also shoots a player on his left as he rounds a corner not checking his right side and when he does check there is 3 enemy players not 5 feet from him and we are meant to believe not one of them shot him
7:46 dude holding his mag even tho he has a custom foregrip just a perfect example of most airsoft players
lol
Hey sometimes it can get tiring holding it that long for like a 40 hour event
I see two annoying extremes here:
The players who take it too seriously and the guys who think they have to tell us it's not like a real firefight.
Because it’s not a real fire fight you dumbass
I agree, the people who insist on telling you every 5 minutes that 'its not the same' and 'stop getting so involved you're not in the army' are just as bad.
@Viper I tried paintball once and it was useless & frustrating as hell. I've shot real guns all my life and I'm very good at it, but with paintball, I'd unload 20 rounds and watch every ball fly all around my target. The inaccuracy was impossible to work with.
from someone who was wounded in combat vs someone who has tried to play airsoft. One thing is for sure real bullets hurt more lmao.
@@CtheDead209-zt8tj not trying to be disrespectful but DUH
Imagine assigning yourself a rank and expecting to be saluted
I mean so you would be ok some guy that works at a print shop demanding you call him colonel? It's the craziest thing I've ever heard of...
@@chrismccarty5522
"I mean so you would be ok some guy that works at a print shop demanding you call him colonel? It's the craziest thing I've ever heard of..."
Really? Last time I checked airsoft is a sport/hobby where you do have more expirenced players... So if a guy is good at making your team WIN THE GAME then why not?
You have captains in sports for example at least here in soccer. I mean do people get annoyed when a soccer captain is called captain?
Idk man it seems pretty insane to me...these dudes are eating MREs
Germans be like: Feldsgrefeiterunterfeldwebelmarschalloffizier
It's just roleplay i dont find that silly if it's what you like. It's start to be cringe if it's not just for the day and you expect to be the commander everytime or if you try to make a realistic military ranking. But near were i live there was an airsoft association who do game over 36h the weekend and they roleplay, it seems to be good guys and of course they are totally normal in real life, but for 36h on is sergent the other major and the next week end it's change according to the "scenario" of the game. At least it'not more dumb than other type of roleplay, like pretending you are an elf and you friend a dwarf.
I was at a airsoft event, during a game I called out a target to my buddy, after that game back in the safe zone a teenage kid comes up to me and my buddy and tells us we used the wrong call out. Yeah...
Moral of story?
Maybe you did? You are dismissing someone just because they are younger than you
Maybe my story was lacking details and some people of the internet can’t quite get the subtitles of a summarised story . I’d been playing airsoft for about 10yrs at that point, my buddy is ex-army, the kid was actually incorrect in what he was saying and the way he approached and told us was just rude.
@@kaloyandraganov9462 theres really no wrong way to call out a target in the real world. the only thing that ever matters is radio usage because someones always monitoring it
Look left!
-some kid-
umm its contacts left.
I found that the best way to avoid having a bad time at airsoft is to just be respectful even when others arent
good rule for life right there.
Attitude is everything.
Military: Seal Team 6
Airsoft: Meal Team 6
hahahaaaaaaa...Gold
Gravy seals
F_alcon epic!!
Operation Dessert Storm
F_alcon LMAO GRAVY SEALS that’s the best one I’ve heard so far
Trust me, most airsoft people in the community hates these same type of people. I think it's effective for shooting and more so, teamwork, but it's far from military training.
Yea there's also a difference between running tactical and running MilSim. Running tactical means going slow, checking all your corners, pushing when the time is right, using grenades and lights and such. Running MilSim means running a squad equipped with full plate carriers, mid-low cap mags, radios, sign language, night vision(should there even be a need for it), and strobing every doorway, window, and corner.
Too bad my country bans airsoft
@@lenuttt6082 If you’re not screaming at the top of your lungs and knocking down doors with your head, you’re doing it wrong
I didn't even know there were people who took it seriously lol I thought this was gonna be a video about cheaters and cry babies (I don't play airsoft, just watched some online compilations)
But its not good for firearm training it doesn’t train you for recoil control at all
*Me signing up for a milsim game and showing wearing a banana suit and a chest rig and a speaker strapped to my back blasting the Thomas the tank engine theme holding down the trigger on a PKP*
i want to do this
Did they actually let you in? If they did I'm doing it next MilSim I go to
@@lenuttt6082 definitely didnt,if you think about it,there is some kind of dresscode needed for you to participate
tactikal thomas ep 9 shooting these fools
Bro....can I do this with you
See, as a soldier of 13 years and a well established NCO, I really enjoy airsoft milsim events. I am very cognisant of the fact that many kids play and don't call their hits. And if there's one thing that does piss me off, it's those mf's that fire full auto at 20rounds/sec. Otherwise, with standard weapons, I really do like them.
13 years and you only made to NCO?
Well a guy in IDF that's what they always do SUPRESSED fire so yah makes a lot of sense
@@ExecutionerDan only made NCO? Lol not everyone in the army becomes an officer man. Not sure if you know how ranks work.
@Heffe by no means man. I just enjoy them myself and they can be done really well if regulated properly.
@@ExecutionerDan sometimes you find your path in the forces and stick to it. for me when I get my killicks I'll be staying as that for a dam long while. a ton more money but no where near the stress of the senior rates.
typically if someone in the forces has held a rank for a long while. its because its a choice to remain that rank
Airsoft player here, really hate these guys. People who don't get that it's just a game are so annoying, of course a soldier in Afghanistan wouldn't use a pink M4 with their waifu on it but guess what? I'm not in Afghanistan, I'm on a field for playing airsoft rushing B because that's hella fun
But real shit, who’s the waifu?
@@Alexander59059 Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion
@@Alertacobra12 1 Asuka is hot af. Forgiven. 2 I would totally do that if i was down range - reference: in the military. Nothing more demoralizing than seeing your m8 killed by a guy with a waifu pistol. Pair that with a hentai knife - and you've got a religious fanatic giving you a nickname.
HEY!!! my grandfather was a soldier in Afghanistan using a pink M4 and he had the coolest get up of his genny man... don't patronize!... :D nah but you're spot on. People should play to have fun, and not to be wannabe toysoldiers.
@@gendo1 oh my god, never thought of that, I'm going to make a ahegao knife now ... do you think I can get a ahegao camo BDUs as well?
I run around screaming with a glock and a dream, fun fact I'm 400lbs and I've made alot of friends
You've just captured the true spirit of airsoft, my friend.
Hell yeah dude
That’s what 90% of airsoft is, I hate people that make retarded blanket statements and act like a whole group is bad for a couple high ego Andy’s
how tall r u
@@arturkey9084 5.11
This is the exact reason I quit playing. I’ve been playing paintball for 15 years and ran in nation wide tournaments for a few of those years, so I played airsoft like paintball - aggressive, same posture and form, diving and sliding the same, snap shooting, etc. and I wore my paintball pants and mask just because they’re comfy and protective and I already owned them. You can’t aim properly with a pb mask so you have to use an awkward pull and grip. One time a game organizer ran up to me and started screaming about my grip, stance, this isn’t paintball, and how you’d never fire a real weapon like that - after I just absolutely smoked half the other team in a run-through and took the obj. I replied “so what it’s not a real gun and I just got 8 kills in 10 seconds because I’m playing it like paintball” He was just out for me because I was obviously a paintball player and wasn’t larping like the other guys running gear that cost 10x more than my $130 AEG with a hicap mag. That was the last time I went. The community in my area is nowhere as chill and fun as the paintball community. Paintball doesn’t try to be something it isn’t unless you’re going to a scenario game, and even then it only goes so far as setting up fun rules and objs to fit the theme of the game.
Sorry you had to go through that. I've been to almost every field within a 2 hour drive from my house and have only had 1 instance of that happen to me. It was a casual King of the Hill game outdoors with no minimum engagement distance for FPS under 350. I had flanked around the side of the field, in bounds, and wiped most of the enemy team from behind with my DMR build from about 50 feet(minimum distance for my build was 40), and one of the refs came up and yelled at me that this wasn't some MilSim op and I can't be playing the game all sneaky and strategic like I was because that's not fair for others, and I ended up getting the game coordinator out to settle this and I guess the guy gave all "non casual" players a hard time cuz he had different standards for how the game should be played. The problem was I didn't even really have to sneak around while I was flanking the enemy was just not paying attention to their flanks and it cost them. Again, sorry that happened to you, and I hope if you ever move to the Pacific North West you'll give the fields and arenas a try cuz the community is almost always chill af and we welcome everyone like brothers and sisters.
That's so weird lmaooo
Airsofters in general hate players like you,basicaly speedsofters....
So im not really shocked that you got yelled at by organizer,happened to me a few times after i rushed a building full of kids because they were camping. Im milsimer myself and i hate speedsofters instead of trying to hit with a few shots they just shower every square inch they can with bb
@@l4st_s4mur4i thats why it makes it more fun when you decimate them with a 30rd gas blowback running .32s
@@l4st_s4mur4i I dont have too much experience with airsoft, but I do play Onward (a VR milsim game) competitively on a team. My take on this is that if a strategy works, it's fair game. From a competitive perspective, the strategy that you refer to as speedsofting is not too effective if the opposition team knows how to pick their angles, know how to actually use cover, and understand team layout. Just like airsoft, Onward has a very low ttk, so I think its fair to say skills can transfer. Generally on my team we have one person lag behind as a sort of "flanker insurance". In the league, generally pulling crazy rushes like that is considered a lower tiered strategy because it works really well when they are in a pub game or against newer teams, but as they climb the ranks, they find that running out in the open will put them at a disadvantage to the person who just barely has their head poking out of cover. In pub lobbies, being at such an angle disadvantage can still be compensated for by just having good aim and a faster reaction time, but when you play competitively you cant expect to have that advantage anymore. Especially in larger areas where the rusher has to scan basically every potential spot within 180° for a potential threat, whilst it only takes one person in good cover watching one, maybe two expected routs a rusher might take take to stop that push.
the one really valuable skill that airsoft might help instill in people (especially young kids just getting into the sport, or people who one day plan to use real firearms for hunting, sport, or military apps) is gun safety; knowing where your weapon is pointed, muzzle and trigger etiquette, making sure your safety is on, etc. Definitely not the same as real firearms, but a good intro. Really cool insights in this vid :)
theyre almost identical to firearms wym😂 gbb rifles are basically the same thing just different bullets and airsoft rifle skills can be used when you eventually move onto real ones
i went to play airsoft today, i have military experience so i know how to handle real firearms. You don't want to know how often i've told people not to flag me in the safe zone and when clearing buildings/tunnels. when i'm wearing my mask its not a big deal but when you're in the safezone where no one is wearing a mask you really have to be aware of it even though no one is. Accidents happen and eyes are irreplacable
Oh hell no. People in airsoft have no clue about gun safety. I’ve never been flagged so many times just walking through an airsoft place
@@EhvanTea Fr
@@joshkiej6601 that sort of stuff should be handled by the ones in charge. The club I run with have a committee and a couple have military experience. There are clear signs before entering the safe zones saying to remove mags from guns and the chamber is clear before entering, there's a martial there to make sure
I think I would prefer paintball better cause they can’t act like they didn’t get hit.
Good point. The air guns that unloaded at high speeds some unneeded but heck I dont want the govt getting involved. Common sense would be nice. Or just make the turds pay the price.
"it's just the way my shirt is colored"
Thor Odinson you could always ask them to rub the spot then it would smear
@@mykneesarebees7242 if it's one of those really cheap "imma absorb everything so you can never get me clean" shirts, the ink is already absorbed by the fabric, and cannot be smeared.
Thor Odinson maybe then just shoot them again while your arguing with them or you could wear a helmet cam
The chad ex-military rusher
vs
The virgin military larper
so true lmao
True
You are talking to a ffuture us army soldier
He's not ex military
@Osama bin laden how's serving in afganistan wholesome
Playing airsoft made me respect the people who protect my country even more. Even though it's a game it does make it painfully obvious that something as simple as walking through the wrong door could get you killed if it were for real.
In places like Afghanistan or Iraq every tree, house, foliage, car, hill or group of civilians could have a gun aiming at you. So a simple patrol means you have to be 100% switched on.
When you see movies and characters are on patrol and they are talking about things that are pure distracting you know it is not close to being real. You are thinking who the hell would be saying something like that right now.
Also FF .. you realise that you shot your own in real life you would have killed your brother in arms. I think Airsoft could be a very nice stepping stone if people would learn and dont be ignorent ... same for trigger discipline.
@@bighands69 Um? Not sure about the Americans but the British seemed to be in constant banter mode in Afghanistan.
@@shaddaboop7998
Not when they are on a patrol in a dangerous area. And they most certainly do not have conversations while on patrol and not paying attention.
@@bighands69 If you say so. As far as I'm aware they were never really afraid of the Taliban, most casualties were caused by IEDs before everybody realised that angled belly armour on vehicles might be a good idea.
"Why didnt you enlist?"
Why arent you a racer if you drive fast with your car?
A soldier once told me, When u never been in line of fire then all your training means nothing. When your life is on the line then u know if u are a bad ass or a coward.
Yup. I played back in my teens and 20s many friends enlisted after but i gotta say we wer baddass airsoft players they still even talk about it even after real tours in afgan and iraq. the recruiters office would send marines straight out of boot camp and theyed only last 2minutes (in the forrest and cqb village) they tended to charge the enemy. While airsoft is more guerrilla tactics and instinct unless you play those huge milsim ops. RUclips "torrington airsoft village "the one with the Halo soundtrack and filmed on toaster. We even had tunnels and 3floor tower
@Cerebral non veteran here, what do you mean they were fun? Not hating or anything, I am beyond thankful for your service, God bless you. I am just curious what aspects of it were fun exactly.
@Cerebral Ahhhhhhh I see what you mean, I can see that now. Well thank you again for everything you've done, I hope I can provide just as much as you have for this world someday (not being sarcastic). Stay strong ma friend and may the best come your way!
This is true at Starlingrad most Russian soldiers didnt have training either they were good when the bullets started flying ir not.
I played my first paintball game a couple years ago, I was a coward in that, I'd suck at real combat. I'm glad not everyone is like me and there are people willing to put their lives on the line for our country.
This is why I got out of Airsoft. When I was in High School it was really fun because I just played with some friends. Then after I got out of BCT and Infantry School, I got invited to a mil-sim type thing. The guy that invited me was a friend of my brothers, and after we played and had fun, he asked me to take a look at his packet. This guy, who never served a day in his life, wanted me to join his "Company" that had obligations like, weekly company runs, weekend squad tactics. He even created a fake rank system. This guy was trying to create his own version of the Army because he had too many bad raps on his record to actually join for real. He had a legit contract written up. This is why I will never return to it unless my veteran buddies invite me. I will play with down to earth people. Not people wanting an alternate reality to be real.
@BHG WOLF487 look I understand being denied what could be your greatest honor in life, but if you want to so something similar that is more practical, join a tactical shooting team like USPSA or USCCA. Don't larp in airsoft. Take care brother.
Why do people take this too seriously, can't we just have fun
I mean to be fair, you can find people to treat their clans in games pretty much the same way
Man it sucks the "sport" was ruined for you like that. In most of the milsim events I've been to 99% of the players treated it like it's meant to be treated: a fun game. But then there's always that occasional group of either grown ass men or 16 yr old kids that think their SF in the fight of their lives.
Do what you want obviously but don't be afraid to give it another try at a local field. Those can be a lot more of a "casual" environment.
I wouldn't play with those guys either....lul....its like the guys who take MMO's so seriously. Just have fun, be you, and pew pew. 😋👍👊
I think it's fine to roleplay semi-seriously for the sake of immersion, or act competitively to get that win.
As long as everyone recognizes it for what it is and nobody is forced into something they don't want, there's no problem with airsoft itself.
It's just like a video game, except outside - and as such, there are more and less serious approaches to the theme.
@John MacTavish Do you even play yourself?
Go book a field and have some fun dude. Why even bother having a strong opinion on something so negligible?
Pretty much, except if someones booked a serious milsim and they all have their fancy ranks, formations, group structure and tactics sorted out. Let them have their fun and if you dont want to follow their rules just leave. it's that simple. Let people play, beach volleyball isnt serious either but you're gonna be kicked off the sand if you dont play volleyball.
The 2 times I played was 1 me going completely overboard yelling random call signs and codes
And getting hit over reacting
My friend got shot in his mask and dropped on the spot
I then ran up to his body screaming "NOOOOOO YOU BASTARDS!!!!! "
the other time we just ran around making the gun sounds.
While wearing trex outfits
@@SPACEHARICE based gameplay
Airsoft is like videogames but healthy 😁
was rejected by every branch of the military due to having asthma in my childhood.
scored a 68 on the ASVAB and even did JROTC all 4 years in high school. I crave the military experience and everything that goes along with it but milsim seems to be the closest I'll ever get
Military depends which branch you join for the experience you get. I’m USAF/aircraft mx and it’s basically just a normal job except for TDYs/deployments. I’ve been in 8 years and marines truly amaze me even still; they are some of the craziest, bravest men and women I’ve ever met.
@@Goalatio Some army guys are cool too, like field artillery. Losing your voice and pumping huge bullets into a tube seems like a hard fuckin job to do over n over
People: eats mres because milsim just like military haha
Me: *"oh hey thats cheap and its a full meal in some small bag and i can fit like 20 of them in some sears backpack sign me the hell up"*
And even in the military, people wouldn't eat that shit. You wouldn't believe how long you can survive off smoked sausages and ramen noodles. This shit is a lot better than canned shit, that you find in the MRE's.
Probably matter of taste, but 3 years of service and I wouldn't even want to ratfuck someones MRE, even if they paid me to do it. And one pack of MRE's is a lot heavier and takes a lot more room than your own store bought shit.
@@athunik4573 well good sir you just convinced me to get some military grade mres, i burned the taste right off my tongue two years ago
@@athunik4573 E4 in the USAR. I run on them when I get the chance.
Steven Ohakwe I’m not gonna just waste perfectly good military MREs on being a coach potato. That’s a waste of money and a big middle digit to the people who made it. These things are supposed to last a while right? Could store them away until the 24 hour and 2 day airsoft matches come back.
Athunik MREs are have a cool novelty factor though, and some aren’t that bad. Btw I’m not in the military, but have eaten quite a few MREs
I can see why people don’t like it, some people just whine and cry when they lose. That and, what he explained.
its not about that, these slovakian army guys got called so many times that they just cheat and dont called a hits (like evergreen in airsoft) and some times people were right. It was not about that didnt want to play fair play, it was because of their training when they just "push until they drop out" and when people like that sometimes just dont feel the hit of bbs. People who play airsoft are more aware of that than an army guy who is more likely to be aware of his surroundings that flying bbs.
Yeah ruins it when people bitch about loosing, I play for fun and pissing about with my mates 😁
GARY
Gary
Killer Queen Gary?
Airsoft is one of the most enjoyable sports in the world, but naturally, every sport, or game has cheaters, or general douchebags/idiots.
Exactly
Or just the occasional try hards who take the game too seriously.
That is so true
The thing about Mil-Sim people is that they’re the same person to treat Chess as a reenactment of medieval warfare.
@@hexaltheninjawow9531 true enough
I remember dressing as a clone trooper and I was using an mg42 which was fun honestly. Most fun I had in a while
Airsoft is just Call of Duty IRL so don't be surprised you'll see squeakers or people who claim they know everything because they've play games that has tactics on it.
I never thought of it like that. But now I can’t unthink it.
I had so far so many bad experience people around airsoft.
That’s exactly right, the staging area at a field is literally an MW2 lobby or a discord server
Call of duty in real life? Say that to the guys at Milsim
the doctor airsoft even in a milsim event, the game is structured around toy guns, most of which have a max engagement distance of around 200 ft. In a lot of cases you end up with people who can see each other awkwardly trying to maneuver around each other to get into distance. You can still learn a lot of stuff from airsoft like manual of arms, kit selection and placement, but marksmanship isn’t one of them. You can also learn a lot of the same things from video games depending on the person and what they try to use the activity for. But at the end of the game of airsoft is a sport and in most cases can be fairly analogized to a real life version of a video game including especially the types of people you find in the community, a spectrum ranging from people that just want to have fun, to try hards, to toxic members and everything in between.
I play airsoft but a little different, Basically me and my friends dress as crusaders and rush while screaming TAKE BACK THE HOLY LAND, yeah we don't succeed alot.
Succeed or not sounds fun
@@firestarters9308 It is, it really is. Costs alot of money though since you gotta by crusader outfits shields one handed airsoft guns and it just costs a whole lot
@@broken_bakschannelofgarbad531 I like the way you play
“WE MUST TAKE BACK JERUSALEM BROTHER!”
FOR THE MOTHERLAND
There’s another side to airsoft called speedsoft where you basically just rush with you gun and a paintball mask on. You usually just wear sneakers, sweats, a hoodie, and a beanie. It’s much more fun with no military tactics involved.
same in paintball but its just called speedball
Yeah, I agree, give me speedsoft over milsim any day of the week.
I've got a friend who literally almost single-handedly captured the enemy flag with a pistol in one hand and a can of root beer in the other. That's speedsofting right there.
Don't tell them that... The BS militaristic crowd will come and ruin it
I don't have anything against speedsoft as a gameplay style. I just like wearing camo, using realistic looking guns and playing outside. In fact, a friend of mine is more of a speed softer.
I could see learning how to maneuver a weapon around cover/concealment, or communicating with a team could be a takeaway, but it couldn't ever be the same as being in a real fight.
Don’t take it to seriously, mean whilst airsoft guy: 92 “kills” 0 “deaths”
Ever heard of editing
Also, when no one is taking it seriously the guy with the fastest reflexes in the sport tends to get a lot of kills. Similar to why COD players with the fastest internet get all the kills.
It's not actual military training, but it can help teach you the mindset of seek your enemy and destroy them, lol
When you go into the world leader boards and all you see is 10000.0 K/D ratios
@Lloyd Christmas People with the best connection in a lobby, don't necessarily get all the kills. I would agree with your statement a few years ago though. According to my experience when you weren't the host of the game, and the game was hosted by someone really far away (let's say someone from European servers joins an American server), you'd definitely feel the disadvantage. In addition, when you live in a place where the possibility of a decent internet connection is physically absent in the means of no actual cables being laid out in that area whatsoever, you can definitely forget to play any online multiplayer games, as your ping would go up into the thousands sometimes. Luckily, as of a few years ago, they have laid out cables in our town. The internet has gotten exceptionally better since then; but that hasn't given me any advantages at all.
@Lloyd Christmas I have always tried to stay respectful even though it's "just the internet". Plus, I might be just as clueless on that topic as anyone else here.. just wanted to share what I have experienced personally :D
His point “if you love this so much and take it this seriously, why didn’t you sign up for real”..
I liked that.
@Fondil Mahbols it’s not in reference to the casual player..
It’s in reference to the people who ruin the fun by demanding that others call them “sarge” or try bringing in strategies from real war.
If you want to be called by the title and give order, during a fun day out.. the man yeah, go join the army big man 😂
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg the rank thing is obviously retarded, I personally can't join any military due to physical and mental problems so "hardcore" milsim is the closest I'll ever get to experiencing real combat. Still the whole eating MREs and demanding people to salute is a bit too far. Although if it was part of a milsim I think I'd be up for it
Probably dont wanna fuckin die
Because I can't and have a chronic disease. Although I don't take it this seriously. I see it as playing call of duty in real life. I like the sport a lot and have a lot of fun
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg I think its fine to take it past playing casually. There is alot of enjoyment to be had by playing things competitively. I agree, people shouldn't be delusional and think airsoft is real life, but I dont think its in any way bad to try and encorporate real military strategy in a competitive environment. On my team (not airsoft, but similar) when we first started playing competitively, we were looking for a way to build up some system of strategy. We were faced with two(ish) options: 1: build all of our strategy from scratch by trial and error or by talking game theory and pouring over maps, or two- studying already established techniques that are used for combat in the military (or other competitive teams). We went with a mix of both. Then through testing them out in scrim we used what worked, and got rid of what did not. Throughout that whole time we never even considered that what we were doing was actually analogous to real life. We took it seriously, but had all the more fun for it.
it's basically just a real life video game. they're just having fun, i don't see the problem
The problem is when people seem to think it's not a video game. I totally agree. It's not to be taken too seriously.
If taken for what it is, no problem. The problem starts with the people who thinks they are military, because they play airsoft
that's the point of this whole video you stupid Roleplaying moron. No wonder you are sticking up for the RP man babies since you do it yourself.
I mean it is fun and can be a cool thing to roleplay a little too, especially if it's related to history. But the problem lies with when you stray from reality and think you are your "character." I would love to see those guys actually enlist and see how far they get.
@@legendary6790 Yeah. I mean, I get really into airsoft when I go. However, I would never have the bravery to enlist and get into combat. Those are two completely different things.
Thanks for this video I'm from Argentina, I started playing airsoft recently because I wanted to be a marine in my youth but I couldn't. This sport gave me the opportunity to play a role, of course, I knew it would be far from reality, but I decided to try and be serious about learning, I looked for tactics and put effort into it. But I started noticing the high level of toxicity that took the fun out of everything, people with some kind of experience blaming everyone and not accepting the defeat. At one point I was in a corridor listening to the sound of markers and explosions, and it dawned on me how hard the life of a military man must be, the high degree of experience and determination that is required, and that day I decided to have fun and take the opportunity to learn because I understood that any discipline that you practice it will always give you a small advantage when it comes to resolving situations, but that depends on our determination and willpower. With Airsoft I am setting up my mind to resolve situations, think faster and adapt. This can be useful in any state of your life. And the toxic people can not do that, and the worst, can not enjoy it.
My high school football coach is an ex-DI, this covid season is gonna be interesting
My coach could be a DI
Ex no such thing child
Y'all probably gonna have flashbacks by the time that season is finished
@@spasplash156 once a Drill always a Drill
RIP
I'm that man running around in my hawaiian swim shorts, no shirt, plate carrier, and goggles. Couldn't take it serious even if i tried.
I’m the guy running around with a ushanka on my head and a fur coat with a tt33 and a can of pink lemonade in the other hand that’s what I operate with
@@australium7374 TT-33 ALL THE WAY
I have a usshanka a gasmask and a hevy coat with some shorts and a m60
still wear goggles my dude. Eye damage isn't worth it man.
fucking chad
Me playing air soft in storm trooper armor and a gun that looks like a blaster
I don't know if you're joking but is that legal or is there a dress code?
@@DarkDraconX1 why would it be illegal
I knock everyone down with the swipe of my hand and then strangle you from across the room.
Yes, but you are in different game mode, you get a penalty if you accidentally hit someone.
That explains why you never hit anything
Tryhard: *trying to plan tactics, using military jargon*
Marine: *Doom straferunning*
Airsoft is no more than call of duty for people who like going outside
Milsim is Arma but for nerds
@@youtubeaccount2212 and Arma is milsim for neckbeards
At least they're going outside though 🤷♀️.
Well they’re going outside though.
It’s when your mom tells you to go outside
"Don't put that in the comments, because I don't care." Truer words were never spoken.
Is it yanny or laurel?
I haven't been watching this channel for very long, but that's the first time I've heard him say to NOT put something in the comments 😄
Wife:can you take out the trash.
Me 10th prestige general: can you take out the trash SIR.
Underrated comment xD
You that night: Sleeping on the couch after you took out the trash
I’ve been playing airsoft for nearly a year now and have no experience in the military and completely agree that there are some people that take it way to seriously but those kinda people usually go to “popular” airsoft sites, the site I play at it’s a local site and everyone there is super friendly and I’d say 95% of the community is nice and helpful it is a very small percentage that ruin the fun by being either cheaters or using crappy tactics or taking it overly seriously, but a lot of the time the stuff on RUclips is faked so they can get clicks from my experience I’ve had so much fun and encourage anyone to start or try and get into the sport look around your area if there are any local sites and see how to get in touch
You know these guys are taking this game seriously when they've got a freaking helicopter which costs hundreds of thousands to operate per mile.
A heavy helicopter like a blackhawk is just a few thousand per run, that specific helicopter you saw, does not.
You mean at a mil-sim event that's has hundreds of people, mainly run by vets.....lmao
I think you have a serious case of 63 year old dad
eurosonly you must be pretty stupid
@@LordFra-l he is
"and then you see these people... start to eat MREs... even though they dont need to"
Lmao this part did it for me 😂💀
Yeah the MRIs and think they’re legit military operators. Now they need to paint rocks and pull guard duty and clean the barracks on the weekend and sacrifice liberty.
@@JamesonsTravels 😂😂 don't forget proper greeting of the day
@@JamesonsTravels fuck yeah. If you want to be about it, be all the way about it!
@@JamesonsTravels and add on having to deal with idiots on barracks who crap on the floor or Blue Falcon the entire company for simply not keeping their room clean even after the X.O. screams at their sorry butt.
We even had that at Military School.
We ate MRE's on Barracks because at times it was better than our Mess Hall food which would tear our stomachs apart.
or we would cook ramen in the sinks with the boiling sink water, and regret it like 1 hour later.
Luke L. Also very true 😂 and those actually taste good
Kids and teenagers taking it a little seriously pretending like they're Navy seals I think is a okay. But grown adults? That's more than just weird
There's also grown men and women playing video games nowadays... This was considered weird too before gaming became main stream. In the end though Airsoft is nothing but a game. Some people take it to serious yea but it still a game and meant to be for entertainment just like paintball. Its all about perspective and having an open mind nothing more.
@@JustiXNL I don't think he means it's weird for adults to play airsoft.
He means if a kid wants to say I'm a seal and wear a patch that's fine and pretty expected but adults that shits just....not ok
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Exactly. It's fine to play airsoft as an adult but to take it seriously, get overly mad when you lose and pretend like your some kind of Spec Ops guy when your not is very weird.
@@drewcliff82 yup
Grown men tackling a leather ball and risking their spines seems weirder to me... As long as they aren't claiming to be a real soldier when they're not, I see no problem.
My local field requires us to wear these things for safety... You know... Wearing Camo, goggles, vest, and helmet come in handy with BBs flying at you
I’d rather go out and air soft as opposed to sitting inside and playing Call Of Duty
same
What’s your point? People who play call of duty don’t generally act like they are somehow better off in a firefight than other civilians lol
@@Sibwo playing airsoft is more fun because your entire body gets to move?
Wolfgang Villarreal sitting inside is boring as fuck. Nothing beats a runners high.
Wolfgang Villarreal I don’t know about the conflated attitude. Each sports bound to have its fair share of jackasses. I’m simply referring to the physical aspect. It’s better for your body.
“It was a lot more fun when we were running and rushing everything”
That’s the story of how I got 4 kills in my first round of R6
Oh cmon i got 3 :(
Aye man good to you but when i run around i eaither get lots of kills or my cheeks clapped....in general im more of a reserved corner camping loser that fuels off of toxicity XD i main cav and shit for that reason but like i love sitting around a random copper ass corner with a shotgun yo lay the dude out instantly and see him bitch in chat...but if ima run around like chicken with its head cut off i do main blitz for that with 60 hrs...tryin to hit that fat 100 hrs lmao
Same, I was at a friends house and he let me play around and kept telling me “this isn’t like COD you gotta be careful” so I played like a meme and wiped out 4 people on the opposing team
No Name and then your team is yelling at you cause you didn’t rotate on the attacker push near bomb site 🤣
Got a doc revolver ace when I played my first game. Mained him on and off ever since then
"Everytime something went wrong they blamed everyone around them but not themselves"... I thought you said they weren't in the military? these guys sound like top brass
I'm dead😂
😂 fucking facts
true that🤣🤣
lmao
OOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
This is why, my loadout is made to be as ridiculous as possible I wear a bicycle helmet and a side bag, and I use a Deagle as my sidearm with an ak-74u with a Thompson on the way lol
I love showing up to these games in running shoes, a t-shirt and something to hold my mags in. Sometimes I even wear pants.
It's more realistic than coming in an army uniform without being in an army
@@aleksandar9873 there's nothing wrong with that either. It's all good fun.
You're the type of player I'd be more scared of anyways, classic rushing kit right there
Wait… you’re supposed to wear pants?
Wait yall don't just go naked and beat people with sticks
Allied military bro who has a pretty heavy hand in airsoft here.
Some of the stuff you learn in the military can apply very well to airsoft. For example, how to use cam and concealment, how to clear corners, even chatting on a radio. I can say that the biggest thing I apply is consistency in maintaining and storing my gear so I know where everything is.
Other than that, it is a video game with cardio and the only things that should be taken seriously in it is safety and fairness. Of course, I'm always willing to talk about the time I ran around with no pants in the middle of a short game to provide a distraction.
Airsoft does have a lot of whiners in it, sadly, and aside from not playing with them there isn't much you can do about it.
Honestly, hang with the right crew in it and you'll have a blast and make friends.
I agree with you about these whiners.
There are always two things that shows difference between a toy gun battle vs a real battle.
First you can Die ( of course )😐
Second there is fear.
In airsoft, you can keep shooting people who are under cover and still would fire back.
Because there is no fear in game.
But in a real battle, fear changes everything.
You will not find anyone acting like a spec Ops without even knowing the situation.
And everybody would try to stay alive as possible.
And in real life, you dont need to kill the whole enemy group to win, they will surrender if there is no use of fighting.
You can even capture the enemy without hurting any of them.
And i agree these whiners are annoying with their wannabe Spec Ops adult friend in midlife crisis.
@@motoangelio7648 I love it how the hard core airsoft people act as if they are the toughest people in the world but if they would ever get shot at they would probably start pissing themselves
@@jackwhitehead406
Yep. Especially those angry adult spec ops wannabe in midlife crisis.
Okay I need to know the story behind you running around with no pants
@@motoangelio7648 You can make them surrender believe me :D Especially if you wear full ghillie that you can actually use in your environment and you point your Colt 1911 on them :D This happened so many times
Damn he just roasted every overgrown man-child that plays hardcore air-soft
Good thing I'm 13👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@BOOMERS._ "Thing", not think. Curb your grammar.
@@kyleputti206 sorry daddy 😔 can you teach me im a hands on learner😏
@@BOOMERS._ o o f
he really didn't
Thanks!
"I see people eating MREs" Sometimes I'm hungry and during a fake military game, MREs sound good, then they turn out to be the worse thing I've ate!
Depends what kinda meal you got some are horrible some are good and the tuna one is shit dont get that one hah
German Soldier here, the german Equivalent are EPAs and i can say they are pretty good :)
Canadian here, you have to try the Marinara and Meatballs in our MREs at least once.
@@allenrosales9738 will do
@@allenrosales9738 Meatballs in a MRE?! Sounds good.
I think the problem arises when people think their, vests and body armor, optics helmets etc etc makes them something special. I don't have a problem with being serious and RPing and using tactics and so on but if the people can't get out of the role that's the problem. Just because you are wearing military uniforms doesn't mean you are not playing a game. Take it easy, have fun and don't take it too serious.
yeah most military holsters and pouches are like design to airsoft like belts you can have your mags in and drop pouches you can have your emty mags in.
and boots that feel good to stand in.
And most inportant the gloves and drink pouches
@@rambo8863 don't forget the radios to talk to mummy so she can get us a McFlurry
Im same with you but idc if they dress up as long as they don't start some weird group where thay make fake ranks and require weekly meetings and their bs training and try to act like the millitsry for a fucking airport game. That's too far. But for yea idc wear the fancy getup and realistic guns, roll around on the ground act like a seal team 6 soldier knock down doors and yell bravo 6 going dark. It's fine as long as after the game you go back to being a normal dude.
@@nickspencer3132 stolen valor is stolen valor but some dudes just like role-playing for a bit
I decided to go as a rebel or partisan because it's easier to just throw on a camo jacket than to buy vests and helmets
I had some friends who would talk about how they spent 600 bucks on their airsoft AK'S. Im like dude... i spent that much on my real AK
So? Maybe they dont want a real gun.
@@christophedobbels8877 then they are wrong
@@billhill7330 I spent less than double on my real AK than on my airsoft AK which is crazy.
Your not the smart one i see :D its a game. Good quality airsoft guns costs money. Why i need real Ak if i play airsoft?!
@@billhill7330 How are they wrong for not wanting a real AK. You cannot go out and shoot people with your real AK can you?
Airsoft and Paintball make you realise how easily you can get hit in a real firefight....But I agree...in the end its nothing more than a game.
Respect to those who earned their patches and put their lives on the line to protect us civilians on the real battlefield.
Being a paintball player I can relate to this. Some people are taking the game way to serious. It's meant to be fun. Yes, there has to be some kind of seriousness like gun handling(Once a friend of mine and me visited a shooting range - when I held a real gun for the first time I was jittering o.O). But we ain't soldiers and I was never in the military. So why act like that?
Best wishes from germany :)
I would argue at least in paintball they have teams and championships, its usually less all out war and more of a team deathmatch thing. So some of the dudes do have that right if they want to compete
Personally I love pretending I'm in the military, pretending I'm strong, smart, and able to do what needs to be done like real soldiers. But I have no illusions that I could do those things for real, first off I'm skinny and weak as heck, I have no stamina, and I wouldn't even be able to join the military because of asthma and some other heath issues. Yes there are those that take it to far and act as if they have the right to the same respect actual veterans deserve. But with a heathy perspective on things it's great fun. You can have fun know it's a game, and be friendly at the same time as acting as if it's real, taking things seriously. I have the greatest respect for veterans and I look up to them a lot, which is I guess why I like to pretend to be one, I think there awesome.
I do have to say I think I do more than many probably would, I go out of my way to learn gun safety, and then apply it to playing games. Since my parents don't let me play airsoft I do it with other things, nerf guns are 1 example, because I find it fun to pretend to do something I know I can't do for real. Also I know it's not training for real situations, but if your holding something that is like a gun, it can help to practice gun safety with that so if/when you hold a real gun, you already have muscle memory of how to treat it, not pointing at people is a odd one that can be learnt but generally I'd say not the best to practice with a toy gun you are supposed to point at others😂, but trigger dissaplin (sorry for my bad spelling) is 100% something that can, and I have learnt from playing with toy guns. As a direct result of me playing with toys (in a way that, I do understand, most people don't), when I am old enough to get a gun and practice in my back yard I am far less likely to shoot myself or someone else by mistake. Which is always a good thing.
(Kinda a ramble and kinda related but not to the first paragraph, got a bit carried away lol)
it's a bit more painful and expensive, but the paintball markers are definitely more durable and less maintenance heavy than airsoft.
its also hilarous how they can barly run yet act like special forces yet they cant out run me a kid or beat my stamina when i dont have much
@@ReaperPLUR In Paintball we have something called 'magfed' which is a growing sport. We now have paintball guns that look like AR 15's and AK's that feed through a magazine instead of a hopper. it's still not nearly as toxic as Airsoft as paintball literally leaves a mark so you have to call your hits. We have something called first strike, which are improved, aerodynamic paintballs (very expensive) used to shoot further. I love it.
Meanwhile I'm just here trying reenact a WW2 soldier during my games.
Hermann Fegelein 😂 😂
I think Hitler wants to speak with you..... Watch out
Hey I thought Hitler and the bois killed u like 300 times alrdy
...FEGELEIN!
That’s badass
7 year old with nerf gun: *hugs wall and runs into room *
Actual military: Write that down. Write that down.
Lmfaooo civilians
Bruh hahahaha
*Hello there.*
@@ruger1405 How, how do you, my own RUclips moderator, manage to find my comment...
@@CmdrAlpha uh. Fate
as Hemingway once wrote , once you've hunted man
their's no other game to play , beirut , with the contra's ( central america in the mid to late 80's) and the Sarajevo conflicts of the 90"s , their is no substitute for a real blood , sweat and fear fire fight
We call them 'Gravy SEALS' at my field
😂😂😂🤣
I've seen better tactics in arma 3. Will someone please tell the arma 3 players that they are not in the military
On the Xbox 360 there was a game called Over-G Fighters, a great many of the community were just average joes working the 9 to 5; but we all larp'd around with brevity calls and tactical formations and it was fun! I don't get the spazing out a lot of people do.
Applying actual tactics definetively works tho, WPS vids definetively saved my ass on a few games in COD and BF
That is the fun part, trying to use tactics to sweep buildings in the right way without getting shot in the back...... And a big part of arma is just The Zeus messing with your head and you screaming at them.
Everyone's a sniper in Arma, lol. I can safely say that it's not at all the same, IRL. So many things will make you miss that aren't programmed into the game. Shooting at that distance takes a hell of a lot more experience than, "I used mildots in Arma, once".
And then there's so many other things, from the weight of all the gear for even a light patrol, to the sounds and visuals of combat. None of it is the same in paintball or video games. There'd be lawsuits if they made games as loud as real life.
@@tyvernoverlord5363 haha was a nice game indeed.. we did some airshows and everybody dropping bombs at once stuff haha.. really wished for a part 2 instead of ace combat and such
Everybody is a gansta until you realize someone using a real gun
Uh oh 😨
@Jesse Gutierrez what..
To be honest an MRE wouldn't be a terrible idea to have at an event like this. I aquire them when I can and they are great for hunting and camping trips.
True. Sometimes it's the only option to get a hot meal in the field without getting any any trouble.
I lost it when he came up behind the guy in the ghille and put the gun to his head 😂
it's cus he can't shoot him from the close
I can definitely understand why someone with military experience would get annoyed by milsim. At the same time, if the milsim guys are having fun who cares
Because in the video the main part of mil-sim they don't like are the people who ruin it for everyone else, and try to make everyone else see them as someone that has actual knowledge in military, which they don't, because it's just a game
@@owenreynolds9599 iv played in a mil sim event before. And every squad had 1 military vet in charge. It made the game very fun when you have good guys helping
just ignore/laugh at them, the fun of the game can actually be there, laughing at supposed real pro active duty secret squadron soldier agent :P
Yeah I've watched the video he's reacting to before and it's extremely bias, Milsim players really aren't as bad as they are trying to make it seem like. If anything they sound extremely butt hurt, and the issues they stated are extremely rare, i've been playing milsim for a really long time now and I've seen only maybe a few of those issues in that time. But hey this may be because they are playing in an entirely different country. The dudes making the video are Slovenian airsofters apparently.
Personally I play in a CQB arena so I don't have the problem they have, in CQB most people run a minimalist loadout because ultimately the goal is to be aggressive and agile, definitely hope to play at an outdoor field soon tho
"I like driving my car, but I'm not capable of driving a Formula One car." Great quote. I agree 99%, as that quote's true for every Formula One car / Race car except for the 2019 and 2020 Williams F1 cars. They're so slow if you record them in slow motion you go backwards in time