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I watched your full video and I just want to clarify that I am not against veganism. I am just against your negative approach. And I have made my point very clear in my video that I am not going to continue this topic. Using negative drama to grow my channel is not my goal at least. And also please don't think I hate you because you are a foreigner. Sadhguru's ashram is full of foreigners from all over the world. We call it living in a community but you can call it a cult, we have no problem with that. But If you are in India, we can meet in person and have a proper discussion, I am open to that. But not for RUclips views and publicity.
Hi Shato, thanks for watching. I’m not in India so a face to face discussion isn’t possible. Although I understand why you don’t now want to stand up to what you said and discuss it live with me, I think it’s a very bad image for you and a bad influence for other Sadhguru followers that after putting out such a critical video to a public audience, you refuse to follow through and discuss the criticisms with a public audience. If you have points you want to clarify and you’d like to defend Sadhguru, lead by example and join me for a discussion (not a debate). Email me at: itsdavidramms@gmail.com if you want to arrange the livestream.
@@davidramms Sorry man. I have clarified all my points in the last comment. In fact the video I made was to send the message to Sadhguru followers to stop sharing these kind of content. I have clearly said that in the last part of my video which you did not include. My intention was not to defend Sadhguru or put anyone down. That's why I never mentioned anyone's name. But you mentioned my name and image. It's okay.
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria "I respect people that don't rape and people that rape, we live in a society where people can make their own choices and decisions i feel like nobody should be called out because of a certain way they have sex. Keep up the positivity" does it sound?
@@Vegan_4The_Animals you are touching topics that are too sensitive to discuss without being emotional about it...!!! Do you not realise you have to move according to times we exist in....!!! We cannot live like we used too a 1000 years before nor 100 years before... Things change according to times. The intent and level of understanding with which a certain statmenet is said cannot be undermined by you hijacking the topic of discussion which will cause mass hysteria... You must try to gain clarity as to what sadguru was trying to communicate by saying there is no absolute right or wrong... Your attitude is not of openness to gain clarity of what a person meant but of a bully who simply don't care for others opinion. Dont be like that.
@@Кенжетайұлы Being harmed is the only thing that is objectively bad in everyone's eyes. ''Everyone'' including animals. Morals are subjective but they draw from objective truths, that being that being harmed is detrimental to those enduring it. It only logically makes sense that if you wouldn't want what you want to do to someone, then you shouldn't do it because it would be wrong.
@@80slimshadys No, animals don't harm other animals because they don't want to get injured . So they follow a mutual contract . Which u call as "Morals" but that's not morality . They just don't want to hurt themselves. That is not moral . Morality means using your brains
@@Кенжетайұлы There's no right or wrong on Mars, but theres's also no sentient beings on Mars discriminating, enslaving and murdering each other. Ethics evolve to become better and are required to minimise suffering.
@@Кенжетайұлы You misunderstood what I said. If someone stabs someone, the one getting stabbed doesn't consider whether they are being hurt as subjective, they consider it as objectively bad. I didn't say that animals abide by morals, I said that to each individual being, themselves being harmed is objectively bad. The oppressor can consider it subjective because nothing is on the line for them, but to the victim with their life on the line, being harmed is objective. Animals don't have morals but to each animal they consider themselves being harmed as bad every time, it's not subjective to be harmed, it's always bad. No being willingly chooses to be harmed. Your argument suggests that if a group of people unnecessarily bash you then they are justified to do that since everything is subjective. But you wouldn't consider it questionable or subjective would you, it would be objectively bad. If nothing is bad because everything is subjective then nothing is off limits and r@pe and murder are justified. This is what that line of reasoning logically entails.
It's not only milk that he's wrong about , they also promote the usage of honey and silk which I find to be very contradictory to their teachings about ahimsa(non-violence) and karma . FYI I did my Shambhavi mahamudra and see him as a good yoga teacher
Bro.. Bees make more honey that they need bro it just only get waste so, what's wrong if we take some.. and silk is made by silkmoth cocoon which is a waste product after it get transformed to butterfly...
@@shravanm1996 🤣🤣u r talking rubbish , u r like the man who thinks that if a chicken can give a golden egg so by killing the chicken u can get lots of golden eggs .
bro that is dharma...ever heard of it? then according to your logic you are still violent if you're eating food made of plants...it goea against Ahimsa doesn't it?
Met your request and wrote on the comments section of her video: "If you are interested in compassion and love and contribution - three spiritual ideals - I would suggest you reach out to David for a discussion on this topic. I'm sure you will find common ground and just maybe, possibly, reach a better understanding over thinking veganism is extreme. If you cannot find it in your heart to do this, know that nothing at all will change. I assume you made this video to preserve something you regard as love for your guru for many. David is always willing to have an open conversation even if you don't think so and even if you dismiss him. I wish you much learning and open critical thinking."
" [...] a particular vegan activist and I don't even want to mention his name because I don't want this to turn into a personal fight" Virtue signaling about non-violence while literally forcing living breathing creature into a life of servitude for taste pleasure. Yeah...
They give the animal food and shelter, without harming them. I mean what else does a cow do other than eat and sleep and look around? Have you ever seen a cow. A cow is perfectly happy when it has food, lots of space and maybe some love.
I just never understand why humans continue to WANT to drink the milk of another species. As soon as I made the connection, I stopped drinking it. That was over 15 years ago.
David you are 💯 keep exposing the hypocrisy!! Notice after Sadhguru states ‘we need to keep them (the cows) working’ he puts his palms together - almost as if he’s asking for forgiveness 🤔
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria You are living in the past way back in the cave dweller days. Progress means we do not need to kill or harm others for convenience, taste and traditions as in supporting the meat dairy and egg industries or use any product which has involved the exploitation of non human beings. Veganism is all about living life which excludes as much as is practicable and possible, no one says it causes no harm at all to living creatures because that would be un achievable. The meat dairy and egg industries are horrendously cruel to sentient living creatures and un necessary for our diet and ways of living. So are the cruel cosmetic industries and big Pharma which use and abuse and exploit living beings for vanity and profit. When we know better, we can be better. Its not about perfection, its about having morals, principles and kindness towards others.
@@ruthsmith1694 you have said so much... Now give a scientifically and mathematically backed data on how nutrition will be met in the world at economically prices when we shut down those industries. After that how human progress to that state can happen in a progressive manner than a forced manner.
I think it’s so funny how she tried to be all calm and peaceful in the video and didn’t want to name names.. but it was clear to everyone who she is mainly talking about. Haha what a joke
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Many Hare Krishna's are becoming vegan now - because of this massive cow abuse! Shiva Ram Swami made a video about it! Already over 40 years ago I remember that the Hare Krishna Temple in Zurich talked about going vegan! Then I left Switzerland! I don't know if this ever happened!
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
The fact that SADguru isn't responding to your debate request clearly concludes that he's afraid of being exposed. I liked your idea of debating fans of Sadhguru, cause once u explain these followers half your job will be done. We will keep sharing you content more and more. Choose compassion,be vegan.
This fake SpiritualGuru is exposed. At present farmers in India are protesting against New IndianFarming Law passed by this BJP government which claims themselves a Hindu government instead of Indian Government. These laws are in favour of Capitalism and going to support companies like RelianceIndia, Adaani Group and few more. Most of Indian population's livelihood is agriculture. They do direclty or inderctly. New rules are against farmers and their livelihood. Panjab state grows 38% crops of total Indian produce. Panjabi Farmers were protesting from last six months against these rules. No one heard their voice. 70 days ago they moved their agitating site from Panjab border to Delhi Border. Now many farming organizations from different states also joined them. More than half million farmers came along with more than 12K tractors to Delhi Border. Indian media ( controlled by BJP gov.) didn't cover instead labled these farmers as anti-nationals. After 12 failed meetings with government now farmers approached international media. BBC, AlZazeera and CNN broadcasted news about this peaceful agitation. This got an attention of world famous Singer and an activist "Rihanna". She tweeted " Why aren't we talking about this?!". mobile.twitter.com/rihanna/status/1356625889602199552?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet This got fumed and BJP government turned on their propogandists including international SpiritualGurus. This fake Baba who should have stood with farmers instead standing with BJP government and United Hindu Front. This Fake Baba is also tweeting back to Rihanna to shut up and not letting her speak against injustice. INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE ( King Martin Luther).
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Sadhguru ji is not a jobless RUclipsr, he is a busy man. Like any busy man who actually works and not just makes RUclips videos in other people's names. But never mind, whatever fuels your Disneyland.
@@NSG84 Why can't Mr Sadhguru have a rational discussion with a young curious youtuber and shower his wisdom upon a person trying to end the biggest holocaust in the history of the world?
Vegan "gossip drama" channel, isn't this what we all want? xD I love seeing them trying to justify their unjustifiable actions of violence towards innocent beings. Vegan for the animals!
Loved your response to her 🙌 Accurate, well thought out, and relayed appropriately. Thank you for bringing awareness. As someone who has her own spiritual practices and is vegan (omw the two can go together and I'm still not dead from years of the vegan lifestyle😱) (and I'm a woman *gasp*) I would just like to add that when you go within in meditation - our natural impulse (using her quote of doing what is "needed") is to LOVE, not harm, and this includes especially the most vulnerable such as animals. What they're doing here is spiritual bypassing- actually not even, there's actually no word for it😄
I freaken LUV vegan activists...I used to be one myself so I totally understand the vibe...yet now I am just a vegetarian...so I guess it's time to PROPERLY get back into the game :) I was bamboozled slightly and wound up here, backwards...yet THANKS to some beautiful vids like this exposing BS, I know where I am headed towards. After all I started being vegan for the animals...so I can remember that. Now when I do it though it will be mainly for myself, and secondarily for the animals. Yet who cares WHO anyone really does it for right? As long as THEY DO EEEEEET!
I think the reason why so many activists I really trying to drive home the idea that you do it for the animals is because it's been proven that more people stick to it when they make those connections rather than doing it for themselves people go on diets all the time for their health and then a few months later they slip and some people don't even make it handsome. But when it's immoral connection made and it's a life-and-death situation and usually hold stronger.. belief system vs. Diet that's the difference when you say it's for the animals for yourself or for the environment
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria wow what a long response to say that you support animal abuse, I don't, so I live in a way that seeks to exclude as far as is possible and practicable all forms of animal exploitation and cruelty, all I wanted was for David to have the opportunity to discuss his position with shato.
@@johndeaux33" as far as possible" words of wise politicans who change their stances to meet their wants. When you say as far as possible you simply mean to your convenience. Get off that high horse and stop your BS. You talk about not hurting animals... Are you aware of how many species of lives and microorganisms are affected by the comfort and conveniences humans beings are enjoying...?? Would forsake all that so that they may benefit...??? Your a/c,car,bike,smartphones all have adverse impact on the lives on the planet... Would you.forsake it...????
@@superskaria appeal to futility fallacy, I also don't have a/c, a car or a smartphone. I don't consume or wear any animal products or use any cleaners or toiletries that are tested on animals. Also I accept that we live in an imperfect world but that is not an excuse to abuse animals. I was quoting the definition of veganism when I said as far as possible and practicable.
keep doing what you do David, I'm telling you... you're going to be HUGE. You have a great personality and your techniques and responses are so refreshing!
He is a good debater but his view points are rigged . . For example we spend all our time Building beautiful & warm houses for our animal friends , we spend all our time & money to feed them a proper diet that is better than even nature provides for them if they lived in the wild.we also protect them from predators & attend to their healthcare & needs so they live more comfortable & happily than nature it’s self would provided in their lives without us. We do not forcibly breed them either & allow them breed but do restrict over breeding so the population doesn’t over grow the room & food supply available . . We do not kill any of our animals & only use the excess supplies for the local market . . Is the animals abusing us & using us a bad thing ? I feel our relationship is beautiful & we both provide for each other. I believe a human is just another animal & that in all Nature you see animals & plants who work together & depend on each other to make survival easier. . How is this form of using animal products bad when done in a way that is focused on the animals life & through the animals eyes , same as the vegan ? But unlike the vegans we don’t mind giving our time & money to feed , house & protect our friends . . & we are thankful for the eggs or milk that our friends provide that are the left over products not needed by them to feed their own children or produce children. Just like bees make far more honey than is needed to comfortably survive & in this environment they are constantly attacked & struggle to survive on own . . Having humans help them survive & protect the hive has paid off for the bees in great ways , when bee keepers work in a balanced way that puts bees happiness & survival first as just gets a payback in honey if/when ever xtra honey is available. I think vegans just focus on the old ways of farming & on the factories . . & are missing what is going on with those who do respect animals & love animals & don’t harm animals but have relationships & partnerships with animals. If we looked at humans the way you look at animal labor . . You would be claiming all forms of community working together & for one another is abuse. Don’t you see where you are so extreme in your views & how it makes no sense if to hold same views up for human workers ?
Odd.. it showed a few people had liked my comment but as I checked to see what comment it was . . There are no likes shown now . . Is RUclips being paid to push vegans? We know they don’t wish for us to eat & farm animals anymore so to save money & to have full power over food resources. . So wouldn’t shock me at all based on their history of suppressing others comments & videos in other areas of subjects which the government isn’t happy about, that they would do same here x_x who knows these days, things are getting crazy when comes to internet freedoms being stomped on
"I'm Conscious, I do what I need". Let me pay industries, enjoy cultural tradition and stop thinking for myself. Regardless of what industries do and how tradition has it's flaws. I need it. Right. Sound logic.
People are so attached to their way of living that thinking outside of their box is so hard. Then, one day, people wake up and come to realize how stupid they were defending the defenseless.
you could take that defending the defenseless in two ways...You meant it in the way that their position is so full of holes it is DEFENCELESS, yet it could also be taken in the way that animals in this FACTORY production are defenseless and it is stupid to defend them (which is sad guburs constant LIES that come out of his mouth about this). You see how there are two sides to this now? Basically the ONLY thing sad guburs crew has to work with IS violence against vegans...and you can see with their attempts to argue, attack, and defame that is exactly what they are into...Anyone standing up for animal rights though has morale superiority on MANY levels...so therefore debates and discussions end up VERY one sided. Only the chemicals that come from SUFFERING (cortisol, adrenaline, and many others) which these people consume LARGE on the daily can cause that kind of discrepancy....all they have to do to start returning to NORMAL is get those STRONG POWERFUL FOOD CHEMICALS out of their foods consumed...similar to how cheese or milk contains SUPER POWERFUL chemicals from the mother to FURTHER the process of the calf drinking MOUNDS of it in order to gain hormones that promote growth into adulthood for the baby calf.
This is the problem we regard people with sainthood, he is still a human he is not beyond reproach. To the vegans aren't absolute right point... Stop insisting that Sadhguru is so absolutely right he is above all of humanity!
The fact he is on you tube period negates anything he has to say about anyone WTF , advertising dose as much harm as any . Please people stop creating pedestal for anyone and pits for others .... Can't see the splinter in your neighborhors eye through the log in your own
Hehe the innocent fluffy bunny music accompanied by cringey passive aggression....this is what happens when we ignore the negative side of life we even ignore it in ourselves and own behaviours. These new age gurus teach people to ignore their shadow, turns people into narcissistic hypocrites. For me it’s just another example of the fathomless human imagination and how many mental gymnastics people are willing to perform just to squirm out of giving up animal products. I would also like to highlight something she said about her female friends being unable to sustain veganism. I am aware many Indians are vegetarian, so I would assume their belief is that they have a nutritional dependency on the milk of another species of mammal? Do they really believe this tho?
No one "fails" or "can't do" a vegan diet, they just didn't put any planning in or didn't seek advice (for which there is plenty of free advice on the internet) on how to go about it. The anti vegan brigade sure is reliant on the anecdotes cannon...
Ahimsa is a fundamental of Hinduism and you should call out that also during these reactions! Ahinsa/Ahimsa should be towards animals too and people need to be just given the information so that they can connect the dots. Usually it is very hard (as I have tried many times with my community) so results are not always favorable.
Why did Pandavas eat meat? The fiend who smears himself with flesh of cattle, with flesh of horses and of human bodies, Who steals the milch-cow's milk away, O Agni,-tear off the heads of such with fiery fury. The cow gives milk each year, O Man-regarder let not the Yātudhāna ever taste it. If one would glut him with the biesting, Agni, pierce with thy flame his vitals as he meets thee. Let the fiends drink the poison of the cattle; may Aditi cast off the evildoers. May the God Savitar give them up to ruin, and be their share of plants and herbs denied them. Agni, from days of old thou slayest demons never shall Rākṣasas in fight o’ercome thee. Burn up the foolish ones, the flesh-devourers let none of them escape thine heavenly arrow. - Rig Veda (10.87.16-19)
Funny she is accusing you of getting exposure by using catchy phrases. Has she ever checked what popular phrases Sadhguru is using to get his exposure? Why me - a person having nothing to do with Indian guru - have known him? Because I was checking once about "suicide"... and he used this provocative keyword.
Hye david , i agree with you completely i have the same thoughts for sadhguru infact i am pretty much aware with my culture and history. and i can say this without any hesitation that sadhguru is a swindler because i can recognise a real guru but he is not Narendra from Delhi,India
@@skandasonu7463 typical reply from a person who blindly follows him :) I'm happy by myself. You don't need a Godman who wears expensive watches and owns BMWs to teach you self realization and detachment from the materialistic world.
@@gauri5465 do u think I believe in him now way I'm a atheist and always opposed to follow any guru or anyone..when I saw his some random vedio i thought he was so practical and it's true and I just followed some yoga practices and visted his ashram once and I was amazed what all they do and how it works...and I m still an atheist but I do yoga on regularl basis and it has bought tremendous change in me like quit smoking , alcohol , fear and so many things
@@skandasonu7463 if he has helped u then it's good... His teachings are not wrong. They are on par with Buddhism...but he does not practice what he preaches so I don't like his personality. Have nothing against his ashram or the ppl who reside there 😊
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Hey is a good debater but his logic is not solid based as it’s built on narrow rigid view point & detached from what’s actually reality ( thinks all farmers are abusers& profit centered) & what is more effective ways to limit animal abuse after acknowledging the reality of humanities diet habits , needs & preferences . . & what life styles human also benefit from & prefer. . Which is all based on having beneficial relationships with our fellow animals & plant life, which all animals involved (including humans) equally benefit from when done properly. But you know why put in All that work to look after animals & build up mutual respect & beneficial relationships. . When you can just go vegan in your personal diet than tell everyone else they are bad people unless they do the same , even as you know a huge majority will never go vegan . . If you really care for animals & humanity imo you would do what we do & support all your animal friends who both live on the farm land & who are apart of your local wild life . . We build up the forests with permaculture forest development which we don’t even utilize for our self but mainly do so for wild life .. At same time we look after & provide for chickens & cows & bees on our land , who again we do not abuse , do not over use , & do not kill. By doing so we really stop the abuse & miss use of animals because those who will never go vegan will buy from us instead of the factories & old fashion farmers who see animals as products & not as partners & friends as we do. That’s great there is vegans in the world . . But some see their health decline when go vegan , & most just don’t wish to be vegan all together , so if you really love animals so much you need to do more than just promote & be vegan . . Seems like common sense to me. . But to each their own. Some people get stuck in ego & want to view all animals & plants as humanities victims. . Imo not realizing how they are putting animals as below humanity & at will of humanity in every way. They are also demonizing humanity as if all relationships humans build must be money focused & profit based & so built on abuse & misuse. Not all humans live or function this way & not all humans miss treat animals & or see animals as below them . . It’s just not reality. Many live with animals & plants , respect & love & serve them as family & friends. Just like all beneficial relationships , yes all sides give & take from all sides. Animals live a safe , warm & carefree life with us as their providers & protectors. . & in return the animals proved a few eggs , or some milk or some honey. These animals in this relationship are not victims. They are equal partners.
& I am no fan of This guru on side note . . It makes me uncomfortable when other humans place humans above them . . I have also heard him support the idea that not everyone needs to know full truths of things , which I am all about wanting to know truth & think all deserve full truth too . . & I have heard him support people should stick to their own class & nothing wrong with this that the rich should get best schooling & food & so on & the poor only needs to see small improvement & they are happy as don’t know better so why teach them to be unhappy with what they get & know of world & so on . . He is the same type of leadership we have always seen promoted . . One who won’t rock the boat of the 1% globalist owning & running everything & who supports the class structures from what I have heard . . Beyond this he says just odd things at times that makes no sense lol like how to have a good day or bad day / to have emotions means your operating as a animal state . . Emotions are not a sign your in a lower state of being lol 😆 they are powerful sources of consciousness & in the face of the one true one / i am , you feel nothing but joy & love which is a emotional frequency is it not ? Lol 😆 Not only this . . But he has trashed talked my mother at times ! My mother who as taught me so much & allow my spiritual gifts to grow & who came to me on her own as I knew nothing of her ! Ma kali ! One of the greatest masks 🎭 god has worn to approach us with . . & he said he dismisses her for most & fears her for most & thinks she unneeded for most because she is “ complicated & overly powerful” . . He clearly doesn’t think you deserve or desire much out of life as a “ average seeker” . . My mother disagrees ! She loves all & is here to teach all no matter what level they start on! Fuck this guru trying to keep her hidden & chained up ! Fuck this guru for trying to keep humanity dumb & blinded to full reality ! Sorry but I love my mother so those comments he makes when he speaks on her has to be addressed. . Just because he enjoys sucking shivas dick doesn’t make kali lesser. If shiva wasn’t such a uptight prick maybe he would receive same love & if he gave more results like she does maybe more would be excited to follow shiva as her. Until than x flips off guru on the ma kali vs shiva subject x don’t get me wrong they both useful . . But I will be damned if I am going to let this dude shit talk my mom because he a daddy boy.
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Making animals sterile is that cruelty..!?? If not would you like to make some random child sterile without their consent...?? Reply really needed cuz I'm f**king my mind asking this question to myself and want to know others opinion...
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Hi David, I liked your video on the topic. Gurus like Sadhguru are really misleading the entire Indian society on the name of spiritualism and mysticism. Now a days there is flood of religious and spiritual gurus in India knowing the fact that Indians blindly believe in gurus but there should be someone who could show people the reality the way it is. Keep it up..
Indian are know to have babs and riahis and sanyasis, i do agree there are many people who misused the name of babas..why you should have sense and know qhat is true and not...we are indians..some out sider is talking some shot about our people how can you afgree with him...this is other words called as antinational...he didnt show the things the way it is....personally go through all the sadhguru videos and then talk...mind it that we are indians and i dont like you handshaking with an outsider that too on wrong assumption.
Hey David! Great job exposing this huge apologist of every single wrongdoing Sad-guru and his followers are doing! The one where she's defended the threats you've recieved says so much about her. Once again, more power to you! ✨
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Damn bro, I am from India and your videos on sadhguru made my day. I totally support you. Besides, whoever that girl is, she completely looks brain-washed, hypnotized and robotic. Love from India bro..
Yes do make it i will definitely watch it but you should be aware of the fact that all the andhbhakts like this girl will dislike the video but i will definitely give a thumbs up 👍😊
You are inspiring me to go vegan for the animals. Thank you for sharing your truth, David! I hope you find some space in your big heart to forgive these fanatics (like this person supporting Sadhguru’s “Bullshit”). Peace, love and happiness to you! ☮️💜🌼
From an indian (I think it goes for most of their spiritual philosophies) standpoint all beings have their particular purpose and agreed before incarnation to the conditions they will live in. That is not to say it is o.k. to let anybody suffer - including animals and plants - but that the suffering is a very strong aid in pursuing awakening and is therefore an agreed with condition of any incarnation (- in their believe - in the evolution of life the animal incarnation comes previous to the human one and is therefore part of the evolutionary process towards awakening ). I think Sadhgurus laughter is not about neglecting animals ... it is coming from an attitude of acceptance. The acceptance of the "Wheel of incarnations" and the implications that this has for all beeings - Karma and suffering. I am not a particular fan of his, but I think I can take his remarks as something that has to be seen in a specific context. And if he is an enlightened person, he has left that wheel of incarnations and the suffering ... if you watch those spiritual teachers who claim to be enlightened, they all tend to have a "lighthearted" kind of smiling or in his case even laughing approach to our "misery " and it is not because they are lacking in compassion. I am pretty sure of that. But they are still human beings and have different character-traits....I have a total appreciation for your effort in protecting the animals and standing up for them so passionately. I think both concepts of life (yours and his) have their purpose and value. You are no opponents. Keep up the good work and all the best to you!
1. Milk is not part of sadhgurus diet 2.Sadhguru nor Shato100 will waste time with you more then they already have 3. You are wrong when saying that sadhguru is not special or important because he is and people will know his work after a 1000years, we cant say same about you. 4.Sadhguru has made more people to stop eating meat than you ever will 5.My intention is not to mock or nothing like that but lets be honest you are an fanatic and thats why you dont get to talk to them in public or livestream
In 1,000 years there’ll be another Sadhguru brainwashing the public and acting like a god and no one will remember this guy The irony of you saying I’m a fanatic whilst fanatically defending your master is not lost on me 😂 And yes, milk is a part of Sadhguru’s diet, and only a few years ago so was fish, maybe you should research a little bit more about what your god is doing 🙏🏼
@@davidramms What god are you talking about? Yogi is not a god.. So do you claim you are not fanatic? I think that you produce far more stresshormone by yourself that you even could get from meat. You dont even have one video without swearwords spit coming out of your mouth.. just calm down..
@@davidramms So are you saying your words will last till eternity? And yes David, you are fanatical. ps, I am also a defender of animals!! But!! I would never! choose the tactic you deploy! You drive more away than you think. Sorry man! You gotta chill a bit! If you want to kill then kill with kindness!!!
it also matters in what way u use cows. The right way is u milk them but also give them food and water convenient life and a family, and 5000 years ago they were not mistreating cows like now industries.
Jallikattu is not bullfight bro. Do some good research about Tamil Culture. Jallikattu is one of the major reasons that more than 16 varieties of Indigenous Bulls are still alive in Tamil Nadu. Hope it helps!
Always in India people won't choose a guru - it's just that - they deepen the longing of knowing ultimate truth - a guru will address as a consequence. Sadhguru is not for solace &comfort in life - he is way beyond -beyond your logical sense
David, you are 100% right; we need to make society aware of how much animals suffer as a result of human intentions; yet, in India, most people live in rural areas, where disseminating the word can cause havoc. We can control them up to a point, but it is quite difficult to reach out to them and convince them of animal misery. Even if they did, the most of them are incapable of change. Because the majority of people are unable to afford to adopt a completely healthy vegan diet.
I support you David! Skepticism is necessary to not fall into other mentors/gurus false information. Even when it comes to religion skeptism is essential like you cannot blindly follow teachings of certain religions without them making sense.
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
I used to think that 🌱 Vegans were under nourished and weak, little did I know that quite a few people who I knew were Taoist and were consumers of plant 🪴 based diets. Really changed my views of plant based diets and the possibilities and varieties of their meat 🥩 substitutes. I was so surprised of the results of how well it went when I tried the foods for myself. Really couldn’t tell the difference
Keep up your good work. This sister has fewer speaking skills, it's apparent. She was more respectful towards you than you were to her. Her nonsensical rebuttals / arguments stem from ignorance/ misunderstandings not arrogance. She means and is humble in most of her speech. Hope that your good work opens her eyes to truth and responsibilities of a human? Dear David Ramms, if you have a Livestream/ debate with her, be softer than you usually seem to be in your videos. Help her understand.
that's a matured comment in this comment section. but the thing is everyone wants to be famous and rich and these things make them do what david is doing. I don't blame him for that.
always respect you sir, all your videos are eye opener. me myself once was a follower of sadhguru but that one video in which he said "whats better to murder them or torture them " was a game changer. i dont know how people can be this blindfolded
From ITALY thank you for this videos I‘ve started following Sadghuru after been suggested by a friend who she’s an obsessed vegan! But since the beginning I couldn’t stand him… I didn’t focused so much cause I do prefer OSHO, but now you helped me to get some elements and get rid of my inconsistent vegan friend, and I’m not vegan but I have strong believes on RESPECTING ANIMIC lifes of animals! THANK YOU GASSHÒ 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Almost 90 percent of people supporting Sadhguru are either believers of Hinduism or indirect believers of Hinduism they only support him cuz what he speaks is of the Hindu culture and teachings base, if he spoke with Christian culture and teachings base none of these guys would support him and again his followers would become majority Christians. This shows that in the end it all boils down to one's beliefs in religion and me being an Indian myself very well know the stubborn nature of Indians. so when these guys say "what he means is the things of the real life and how life works and not whether its based on hinduism or not" trying to support him, what they really mean is "our belief is the only true one and Sadhguru proves it so fuck your beliefs and join ours." P.s I'm not saying every Indian or Hindus are like that you just need to think on your own to decide whether someone is right or wrong
David Ramms: I'm looking forward to the day when you take on the carnivore climate scientists who won't tell their followers that the world must switch to a plant-based diet if we are to avoid the dire consequences of global warming. I would love to hear what you have to say about these men of science who disregard the science of meat/dairy-production agriculture's contribution to global warming and destruction of the biosphere.
I am hindu from a different tradition than this one still i want to say something. Even if i respect the fact that you have discovered something that you consider something ethically right and real, because this is fundamental in one s life....i ve been vegan since some years, vegetarian before, still nonspiritual people who eats meat sometimes gives lessons of behaviour towards humans to the rest. What is the difference between what you are doing and what religions did by going against each other? I didn t use the word kill because you are not killing, but yes you are going against them not in a very diplomatic way, What happens now if a person who rises in spirituality laughs at someones ignorance of killing a human or an animal? It s a non believer of compassion for animal s life? Be aware specially speaking of things that you dont know, and specially if you ridiculice people and other people s beliefs. Why you do it? Oh yes, because you want to expose every hipocrite , crussade, look I understand that certain things you don't understand, you have not experienced yet so for your cause you do what you can in the way that you know : This means everyone is evolving and our essence remains the same and we have to learn to understand each other and respect and love each other, that s the true meaning of there is not absolute good or bad, it has nothing to do to go and punch in the face to somebody. You can t take an expression of hinduism wich reflects a deeper meaning taking the surface. Your whole full potential of strenght and wisdom is not limited, yet you get assumptions of what is about things that you dont understand, please don t ridiculize cult or a Guru if you don t know about it fully. Spiritual masters it depends on the tradition also how much , but there are many levels of realization, the fact you think different in one aspect doesn t make you necessarily more evolved, but you neither know if there is something wrong even you being Vegan with the way cows are treated in the sanctuarys/ashrams, i m against animal fighting but i nor know what s going on exactly in the sense of what have been said and this Guru has done a lot of Good for people because they come for that. A better attitude will be "i disagree completely with that, i think you are completely wrong on that, still i respect you, lets speak. " Understand that as veganism is a higher value , respect for others also. If you have love for life please dont call her name in that way, it s very sad, if you stand for love then please understand it kindly. In the other hand, Spirituality has suffered a lot from Guruphobia and i will not enter now in the source of the problem, but since ( since, in authority aspect) Yogananda where politics started to attack him, to even the most sweetest one have been attacked and discredited by slander, all men who has done something positive have been in fact, please don t nourish that. It s not about comparing Gurus, its about how much can we learn as human beings from each other, of much can we learn to Love and discover who we truly are and be truly happy.
You are a fucKing genius and I absolutely fucking love you and your attitude. That’s it. I could just go on like this for ever but …u get the point. U help a lot, trust me, just that not many are capable of understanding this information. ❤
It is sad that this is what your day consists of... people like you are the real reason that there is very little growth amongst humans. Please just live your life... 😢
amazing video david; thank you for calling this guru & his cultish followers out! 💯 if i may, i recommend seeing Acharya Prashant. an absolutely amazing guru who is vegan & is against animal cruelty. he has a few videos discussing it on his channel. he follows advaita vedanta and has some great content. thank you for all the amazing content coming out, you’ll be at 10k super soon! ✌🏼
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned. In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat. Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life.... You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on.... Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life.... If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about. Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Hey is a good debater but his logic is not solid based as it’s built on narrow rigid view point & detached from what’s actually reality ( thinks all farmers are abusers& profit centered) & what is more effective ways to limit animal abuse after acknowledging the reality of humanities diet habits , needs & preferences . . & what life styles human also benefit from & prefer. . Which is all based on having beneficial relationships with our fellow animals & plant life, which all animals involved (including humans) equally benefit from when done properly. But you know why put in All that work to look after animals & build up mutual respect & beneficial relationships. . When you can just go vegan in your personal diet than tell everyone else they are bad people unless they do the same , even as you know a huge majority will never go vegan . . If you really care for animals & humanity imo you would do what we do & support all your animal friends who both live on the farm land & who are apart of your local wild life . . We build up the forests with permaculture forest development which we don’t even utilize for our self but mainly do so for wild life .. At same time we look after & provide for chickens & cows & bees on our land , who again we do not abuse , do not over use , & do not kill. By doing so we really stop the abuse & miss use of animals because those who will never go vegan will buy from us instead of the factories & old fashion farmers who see animals as products & not as partners & friends as we do. That’s great there is vegans in the world . . But some see their health decline when go vegan , & most just don’t wish to be vegan all together , so if you really love animals so much you need to do more than just promote & be vegan . . Seems like common sense to me. . But to each their own. Some people get stuck in ego & want to view all animals & plants as humanities victims. . Imo not realizing how they are putting animals as below humanity & at will of humanity in every way. They are also demonizing humanity as if all relationships humans build must be money focused & profit based & so built on abuse & misuse. Not all humans live or function this way & not all humans miss treat animals & or see animals as below them . . It’s just not reality. Many live with animals & plants , respect & love & serve them as family & friends. Just like all beneficial relationships , yes all sides give & take from all sides. Animals live a safe , warm & carefree life with us as their providers & protectors. . & in return the animals proved a few eggs , or some milk or some honey. These animals in this relationship are not victims. They are equal partners.
& I am no fan of This guru on side note . . It makes me uncomfortable when other humans place humans above them . . I have also heard him support the idea that not everyone needs to know full truths of things , which I am all about wanting to know truth & think all deserve full truth too . . & I have heard him support people should stick to their own class & nothing wrong with this that the rich should get best schooling & food & so on & the poor only needs to see small improvement & they are happy as don’t know better so why teach them to be unhappy with what they get & know of world & so on . . He is the same type of leadership we have always seen promoted . . One who won’t rock the boat of the 1% globalist owning & running everything & who supports the class structures from what I have heard . . Beyond this he says just odd things at times that makes no sense lol like how to have a good day or bad day / to have emotions means your operating as a animal state . . Emotions are not a sign your in a lower state of being lol 😆 they are powerful sources of consciousness & in the face of the one true one / i am , you feel nothing but joy & love which is a emotional frequency is it not ? Lol 😆 Not only this . . But he has trashed talked my mother at times ! My mother who as taught me so much & allow my spiritual gifts to grow & who came to me on her own as I knew nothing of her ! Ma kali ! One of the greatest masks 🎭 god has worn to approach us with . . & he said he dismisses her for most & fears her for most & thinks she unneeded for most because she is “ complicated & overly powerful” . . He clearly doesn’t think you deserve or desire much out of life as a “ average seeker” . . My mother disagrees ! She loves all & is here to teach all no matter what level they start on! Fuck this guru trying to keep her hidden & chained up ! Fuck this guru for trying to keep humanity dumb & blinded to full reality ! Sorry but I love my mother so those comments he makes when he speaks on her has to be addressed. . Just because he enjoys sucking shivas dick doesn’t make kali lesser. If shiva wasn’t such a uptight prick maybe he would receive same love & if he gave more results like she does maybe more would be excited to follow shiva as her. Until than x flips off guru on the ma kali vs shiva subject x don’t get me wrong they both useful . . But I will be damned if I am going to let this dude shit talk my mom because he a daddy boy.
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DavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavidDavid,well said
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I watched your full video and I just want to clarify that I am not against veganism. I am just against your negative approach. And I have made my point very clear in my video that I am not going to continue this topic. Using negative drama to grow my channel is not my goal at least. And also please don't think I hate you because you are a foreigner.
Sadhguru's ashram is full of foreigners from all over the world. We call it living in a community but you can call it a cult, we have no problem with that. But If you are in India, we can meet in person and have a proper discussion, I am open to that. But not for RUclips views and publicity.
Hi Shato, thanks for watching. I’m not in India so a face to face discussion isn’t possible.
Although I understand why you don’t now want to stand up to what you said and discuss it live with me, I think it’s a very bad image for you and a bad influence for other Sadhguru followers that after putting out such a critical video to a public audience, you refuse to follow through and discuss the criticisms with a public audience.
If you have points you want to clarify and you’d like to defend Sadhguru, lead by example and join me for a discussion (not a debate).
Email me at: itsdavidramms@gmail.com if you want to arrange the livestream.
@@davidramms Sorry man. I have clarified all my points in the last comment. In fact the video I made was to send the message to Sadhguru followers to stop sharing these kind of content. I have clearly said that in the last part of my video which you did not include. My intention was not to defend Sadhguru or put anyone down. That's why I never mentioned anyone's name.
But you mentioned my name and image. It's okay.
“There is no absolute right and absolute wrong” convenient defence when you’re on the side of absolute wrong.
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@@davidramms Right or wrong doesnt exist. They are just opinions. Being a non-vegan isnt wrong its selfish.
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria "I respect people that don't rape and people that rape, we live in a society where people can make their own choices and decisions i feel like nobody should be called out because of a certain way they have sex. Keep up the positivity" does it sound?
@@Vegan_4The_Animals you are touching topics that are too sensitive to discuss without being emotional about it...!!!
Do you not realise you have to move according to times we exist in....!!!
We cannot live like we used too a 1000 years before nor 100 years before...
Things change according to times.
The intent and level of understanding with which a certain statmenet is said cannot be undermined by you hijacking the topic of discussion which will cause mass hysteria...
You must try to gain clarity as to what sadguru was trying to communicate by saying there is no absolute right or wrong...
Your attitude is not of openness to gain clarity of what a person meant but of a bully who simply don't care for others opinion.
Dont be like that.
If Sadhguru actually believes there is no right or wrong, wtf is he doing preaching? Anything goes. 🙄
He's right about that there's no right n wrong concept it is man made
@@Кенжетайұлы Being harmed is the only thing that is objectively bad in everyone's eyes. ''Everyone'' including animals. Morals are subjective but they draw from objective truths, that being that being harmed is detrimental to those enduring it. It only logically makes sense that if you wouldn't want what you want to do to someone, then you shouldn't do it because it would be wrong.
@@80slimshadys No, animals don't harm other animals because they don't want to get injured . So they follow a mutual contract . Which u call as "Morals" but that's not morality . They just don't want to hurt themselves. That is not moral . Morality means using your brains
@@Кенжетайұлы There's no right or wrong on Mars, but theres's also no sentient beings on Mars discriminating, enslaving and murdering each other. Ethics evolve to become better and are required to minimise suffering.
@@Кенжетайұлы You misunderstood what I said. If someone stabs someone, the one getting stabbed doesn't consider whether they are being hurt as subjective, they consider it as objectively bad. I didn't say that animals abide by morals, I said that to each individual being, themselves being harmed is objectively bad. The oppressor can consider it subjective because nothing is on the line for them, but to the victim with their life on the line, being harmed is objective. Animals don't have morals but to each animal they consider themselves being harmed as bad every time, it's not subjective to be harmed, it's always bad. No being willingly chooses to be harmed. Your argument suggests that if a group of people unnecessarily bash you then they are justified to do that since everything is subjective. But you wouldn't consider it questionable or subjective would you, it would be objectively bad. If nothing is bad because everything is subjective then nothing is off limits and r@pe and murder are justified. This is what that line of reasoning logically entails.
It's not only milk that he's wrong about , they also promote the usage of honey and silk which I find to be very contradictory to their teachings about ahimsa(non-violence) and karma . FYI I did my Shambhavi mahamudra and see him as a good yoga teacher
Bro.. Bees make more honey that they need bro it just only get waste so, what's wrong if we take some.. and silk is made by silkmoth cocoon which is a waste product after it get transformed to butterfly...
@@helper5846 actually silk worms are boiled alive. Ahimsa silk is almost non existent.
@@shravanm1996 lol by your Logic We should Stop killing Coackrach and Mosquitoes.
@@shravanm1996 🤣🤣u r talking rubbish , u r like the man who thinks that if a chicken can give a golden egg so by killing the chicken u can get lots of golden eggs .
bro that is dharma...ever heard of it?
then according to your logic you are still violent if you're eating food made of plants...it goea against Ahimsa doesn't it?
I’m Indian and I agree with you 🇮🇳
Why you have to flash your INDIAN credentials in the first place?
@@finye1130 everyone here does but believe me they are once with us they always will
@@kalharpatel4784 I'm not going to believe some random "Patel", guy on internet, who don't even know how use a comma splice in his sentences.
@@finye1130 fine
Certain agenda must be achieved from leftist but that's a disgrace that you flash your nationality over a remarkless view. Shame on you
Met your request and wrote on the comments section of her video: "If you are interested in compassion and love and contribution - three spiritual ideals - I would suggest you reach out to David for a discussion on this topic. I'm sure you will find common ground and just maybe, possibly, reach a better understanding over thinking veganism is extreme. If you cannot find it in your heart to do this, know that nothing at all will change. I assume you made this video to preserve something you regard as love for your guru for many. David is always willing to have an open conversation even if you don't think so and even if you dismiss him. I wish you much learning and open critical thinking."
Nice one Gene! 🙌
Yes, absolutely!
Good stuff.
She should switch from a sad guru to a proper guru, maybe Vegan Jesus 😉
Yes sir! Agree.
David is fucked
Ayyyy this is the video you're referencing. Brilliant one lad
Top notch Lad 💥🦏
" [...] a particular vegan activist and I don't even want to mention his name because I don't want this to turn into a personal fight"
Virtue signaling about non-violence while literally forcing living breathing creature into a life of servitude for taste pleasure.
Yeah...
They don't make sense.
They don't eat the animals
They give the animal food and shelter, without harming them. I mean what else does a cow do other than eat and sleep and look around? Have you ever seen a cow. A cow is perfectly happy when it has food, lots of space and maybe some love.
If your spiritual leader is defending their morally inconsistent speciesist stance you may want to find another.
Again. There is so much stupid in this world that someone could wear a t-shirt with the word hypocrite on it, and they would still have loyal fans
Lol anyone can become a spiritual guru
And people blindly follow
Lol
How enlightenment vegans are
By supporting peta which kills millions of animals
Truly
The hypocrisy of butt hurt vegans is really astonishing
@KAI THE INVINCIBLE fun fact most vegans don't like PETA woah shocker
I agree with your strategy. Your channel speaks up for truth and decency and is likely to grow.
Thanks! I hope so
@@hardikvamshi6222 Famous last words!
@@davidramms you are never gonna grow by just proving yourself to be the truth...
@Ketin Bleidin what is the truth he's sharing ?? there's nothing true here
@@shreevathsa5407 that's applicable to your fake sadhguru
David, you're growing pretty damn fast. Just yesterday your numbers were in the 7 thousands but ayyyy today, 8k.
It's moving thanks to people like you liking, commenting and sharing the videos, thank you!
@@davidramms David you deserve 50k asap
@@davidramms You deserve billions
@@davidramms it's the result of your relentless hard work and kind heart! You deserve it :)
I just never understand why humans continue to WANT to drink the milk of another species. As soon as I made the connection, I stopped drinking it. That was over 15 years ago.
You don't understand... Read history and evolution of human society....!!!
I say this with respect.
Wishing you wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria no species needs to drink the milk of any other species. Read a biology book. I say this with respect.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet your not able to correlate between evolution of human species and their history.
David you are 💯 keep exposing the hypocrisy!!
Notice after Sadhguru states ‘we need to keep them (the cows) working’ he puts his palms together - almost as if he’s asking for forgiveness 🤔
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Palms are folded in India for reuqest, welcome, mercy, gratitude, respect etc.
@@superskaria You are living in the past way back in the cave dweller days. Progress means we do not need to kill or harm others for convenience, taste and traditions as in supporting the meat dairy and egg industries or use any product which has involved the exploitation of non human beings. Veganism is all about living life which excludes as much as is practicable and possible, no one says it causes no harm at all to living creatures because that would be un achievable. The meat dairy and egg industries are horrendously cruel to sentient living creatures and un necessary for our diet and ways of living. So are the cruel cosmetic industries and big Pharma which use and abuse and exploit living beings for vanity and profit. When we know better, we can be better. Its not about perfection, its about having morals, principles and kindness towards others.
@@ruthsmith1694 you have said so much... Now give a scientifically and mathematically backed data on how nutrition will be met in the world at economically prices when we shut down those industries. After that how human progress to that state can happen in a progressive manner than a forced manner.
I think it’s so funny how she tried to be all calm and peaceful in the video and didn’t want to name names.. but it was clear to everyone who she is mainly talking about. Haha what a joke
Battle of the beards! One stands up for the animals! One stands up for the animals (heads to get cut off)
SADhguru sad h guru : (
He has the better beard there's no denying that
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Vegan for the animals, sadguru for the dairy industry.
Right on
Many Hare Krishna's are becoming vegan now - because of this massive cow abuse! Shiva Ram Swami made a video about it! Already over 40 years ago I remember that the Hare Krishna Temple in Zurich talked about going vegan! Then I left Switzerland! I don't know if this ever happened!
There are some here where iy live and they seem divided. Some advocate ahimsa milk while others listen to us activists and go vegan.
👏👏 David way to go
LoL
To hell
@@ig_x4SH nope. To isha foundation to bust this sod's criminal ass.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't know what's wrong with this girl, maybe one of the biggest andhbhakts of Sadhguru 😅
What's her RUclips channel ?
@@Кенжетайұлы i don't know
@@Кенжетайұлы it is mentioned in the description box Shatofor100
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria Yeah but eating meat is unnecessary and by that you support animal abuse . So whoever eats meat is a bad person
You're doing really good work brother... Support from India... Kro spreading awareness... Hope the whole world become vegan
The fact that SADguru isn't responding to your debate request clearly concludes that he's afraid of being exposed.
I liked your idea of debating fans of Sadhguru, cause once u explain these followers half your job will be done.
We will keep sharing you content more and more.
Choose compassion,be vegan.
Thank you!
This fake SpiritualGuru is exposed.
At present farmers in India are protesting against New IndianFarming Law passed by this BJP government which claims themselves a Hindu government instead of Indian Government. These laws are in favour of Capitalism and going to support companies like RelianceIndia, Adaani Group and few more. Most of Indian population's livelihood is agriculture. They do direclty or inderctly. New rules are against farmers and their livelihood. Panjab state grows 38% crops of total Indian produce. Panjabi Farmers were protesting from last six months against these rules. No one heard their voice. 70 days ago they moved their agitating site from Panjab border to Delhi Border. Now many farming organizations from different states also joined them. More than half million farmers came along with more than 12K tractors to Delhi Border. Indian media ( controlled by BJP gov.) didn't cover instead labled these farmers as anti-nationals. After 12 failed meetings with government now farmers approached international media. BBC, AlZazeera and CNN broadcasted news about this peaceful agitation. This got an attention of world famous Singer and an activist "Rihanna". She tweeted " Why aren't we talking about this?!". mobile.twitter.com/rihanna/status/1356625889602199552?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
This got fumed and BJP government turned on their propogandists including international SpiritualGurus. This fake Baba who should have stood with farmers instead standing with BJP government and United Hindu Front. This Fake Baba is also tweeting back to Rihanna to shut up and not letting her speak against injustice.
INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE ( King Martin Luther).
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Sadhguru ji is not a jobless RUclipsr, he is a busy man. Like any busy man who actually works and not just makes RUclips videos in other people's names. But never mind, whatever fuels your Disneyland.
@@NSG84 Why can't Mr Sadhguru have a rational discussion with a young curious youtuber and shower his wisdom upon a person trying to end the biggest holocaust in the history of the world?
I like that you call out spiritual leaders for their hypocrisy and lack of true moral conviction. Keep it up David!
Vegan "gossip drama" channel, isn't this what we all want? xD
I love seeing them trying to justify their unjustifiable actions of violence towards innocent beings.
Vegan for the animals!
😀😀
Loved your response to her 🙌
Accurate, well thought out, and relayed appropriately. Thank you for bringing awareness.
As someone who has her own spiritual practices and is vegan (omw the two can go together and I'm still not dead from years of the vegan lifestyle😱) (and I'm a woman *gasp*) I would just like to add that when you go within in meditation - our natural impulse (using her quote of doing what is "needed") is to LOVE, not harm, and this includes especially the most vulnerable such as animals.
What they're doing here is spiritual bypassing- actually not even, there's actually no word for it😄
I freaken LUV vegan activists...I used to be one myself so I totally understand the vibe...yet now I am just a vegetarian...so I guess it's time to PROPERLY get back into the game :) I was bamboozled slightly and wound up here, backwards...yet THANKS to some beautiful vids like this exposing BS, I know where I am headed towards. After all I started being vegan for the animals...so I can remember that. Now when I do it though it will be mainly for myself, and secondarily for the animals. Yet who cares WHO anyone really does it for right? As long as THEY DO EEEEEET!
I think the reason why so many activists I really trying to drive home the idea that you do it for the animals is because it's been proven that more people stick to it when they make those connections rather than doing it for themselves people go on diets all the time for their health and then a few months later they slip and some people don't even make it handsome. But when it's immoral connection made and it's a life-and-death situation and usually hold stronger.. belief system vs. Diet that's the difference when you say it's for the animals for yourself or for the environment
Put a message on her video "Debate David Ramms" but I doubt she will
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria wow what a long response to say that you support animal abuse, I don't, so I live in a way that seeks to exclude as far as is possible and practicable all forms of animal exploitation and cruelty, all I wanted was for David to have the opportunity to discuss his position with shato.
@@johndeaux33" as far as possible" words of wise politicans who change their stances to meet their wants.
When you say as far as possible you simply mean to your convenience. Get off that high horse and stop your BS.
You talk about not hurting animals... Are you aware of how many species of lives and microorganisms are affected by the comfort and conveniences humans beings are enjoying...??
Would forsake all that so that they may benefit...???
Your a/c,car,bike,smartphones all have adverse impact on the lives on the planet...
Would you.forsake it...????
@@superskaria appeal to futility fallacy, I also don't have a/c, a car or a smartphone. I don't consume or wear any animal products or use any cleaners or toiletries that are tested on animals. Also I accept that we live in an imperfect world but that is not an excuse to abuse animals. I was quoting the definition of veganism when I said as far as possible and practicable.
@@johndeaux33 tell me sir, how did you send this message...???which was the mode of communication...???
Great video mate
keep doing what you do David, I'm telling you... you're going to be HUGE. You have a great personality and your techniques and responses are so refreshing!
Thank you so much for the support!
@@davidramms 🙄😒
He is a good debater but his view points are rigged . .
For example we spend all our time Building beautiful & warm houses for our animal friends , we spend all our time & money to feed them a proper diet that is better than even nature provides for them if they lived in the wild.we also protect them from predators & attend to their healthcare & needs so they live more comfortable & happily than nature it’s self would provided in their lives without us.
We do not forcibly breed them either & allow them breed but do restrict over breeding so the population doesn’t over grow the room & food supply available . .
We do not kill any of our animals & only use the excess supplies for the local market . .
Is the animals abusing us & using us a bad thing ? I feel our relationship is beautiful & we both provide for each other. I believe a human is just another animal & that in all Nature you see animals & plants who work together & depend on each other to make survival easier. .
How is this form of using animal products bad when done in a way that is focused on the animals life & through the animals eyes , same as the vegan ?
But unlike the vegans we don’t mind giving our time & money to feed , house & protect our friends . . & we are thankful for the eggs or milk that our friends provide that are the left over products not needed by them to feed their own children or produce children. Just like bees make far more honey than is needed to comfortably survive & in this environment they are constantly attacked & struggle to survive on own . . Having humans help them survive & protect the hive has paid off for the bees in great ways , when bee keepers work in a balanced way that puts bees happiness & survival first as just gets a payback in honey if/when ever xtra honey is available.
I think vegans just focus on the old ways of farming & on the factories . . & are missing what is going on with those who do respect animals & love animals & don’t harm animals but have relationships & partnerships with animals.
If we looked at humans the way you look at animal labor . . You would be claiming all forms of community working together & for one another is abuse. Don’t you see where you are so extreme in your views & how it makes no sense if to hold same views up for human workers ?
Odd.. it showed a few people had liked my comment but as I checked to see what comment it was . . There are no likes shown now . .
Is RUclips being paid to push vegans? We know they don’t wish for us to eat & farm animals anymore so to save money & to have full power over food resources. . So wouldn’t shock me at all based on their history of suppressing others comments & videos in other areas of subjects which the government isn’t happy about, that they would do same here x_x who knows these days, things are getting crazy when comes to internet freedoms being stomped on
All this young woman has to do is put herself in the victim's place.
"I'm Conscious, I do what I need". Let me pay industries, enjoy cultural tradition and stop thinking for myself. Regardless of what industries do and how tradition has it's flaws. I need it.
Right. Sound logic.
People are so attached to their way of living that thinking outside of their box is so hard. Then, one day, people wake up and come to realize how stupid they were defending the defenseless.
you could take that defending the defenseless in two ways...You meant it in the way that their position is so full of holes it is DEFENCELESS, yet it could also be taken in the way that animals in this FACTORY production are defenseless and it is stupid to defend them (which is sad guburs constant LIES that come out of his mouth about this). You see how there are two sides to this now? Basically the ONLY thing sad guburs crew has to work with IS violence against vegans...and you can see with their attempts to argue, attack, and defame that is exactly what they are into...Anyone standing up for animal rights though has morale superiority on MANY levels...so therefore debates and discussions end up VERY one sided. Only the chemicals that come from SUFFERING (cortisol, adrenaline, and many others) which these people consume LARGE on the daily can cause that kind of discrepancy....all they have to do to start returning to NORMAL is get those STRONG POWERFUL FOOD CHEMICALS out of their foods consumed...similar to how cheese or milk contains SUPER POWERFUL chemicals from the mother to FURTHER the process of the calf drinking MOUNDS of it in order to gain hormones that promote growth into adulthood for the baby calf.
This is the problem we regard people with sainthood, he is still a human he is not beyond reproach.
To the vegans aren't absolute right point... Stop insisting that Sadhguru is so absolutely right he is above all of humanity!
The fact he is on you tube period negates anything he has to say about anyone WTF , advertising dose as much harm as any . Please people stop creating pedestal for anyone and pits for others .... Can't see the splinter in your neighborhors eye through the log in your own
He is referring to all three players ,watch your own 🦶👣 print s b4 you condemn another
Hehe the innocent fluffy bunny music accompanied by cringey passive aggression....this is what happens when we ignore the negative side of life we even ignore it in ourselves and own behaviours. These new age gurus teach people to ignore their shadow, turns people into narcissistic hypocrites. For me it’s just another example of the fathomless human imagination and how many mental gymnastics people are willing to perform just to squirm out of giving up animal products.
I would also like to highlight something she said about her female friends being unable to sustain veganism. I am aware many Indians are vegetarian, so I would assume their belief is that they have a nutritional dependency on the milk of another species of mammal? Do they really believe this tho?
No one "fails" or "can't do" a vegan diet, they just didn't put any planning in or didn't seek advice (for which there is plenty of free advice on the internet) on how to go about it.
The anti vegan brigade sure is reliant on the anecdotes cannon...
Crush 'em.
Ahimsa is a fundamental of Hinduism and you should call out that also during these reactions! Ahinsa/Ahimsa should be towards animals too and people need to be just given the information so that they can connect the dots. Usually it is very hard (as I have tried many times with my community) so results are not always favorable.
Why did Krishna drink cows milk
Why did Shiva cut an elephants head
Why did Pandavas eat meat?
The fiend who smears himself with flesh of cattle, with flesh of horses and of human bodies, Who steals the milch-cow's milk away, O Agni,-tear off the heads of such with fiery fury.
The cow gives milk each year, O Man-regarder let not the Yātudhāna ever taste it.
If one would glut him with the biesting, Agni, pierce with thy flame his vitals as he meets thee.
Let the fiends drink the poison of the cattle; may Aditi cast off the evildoers.
May the God Savitar give them up to ruin, and be their share of plants and herbs denied them.
Agni, from days of old thou slayest demons never shall Rākṣasas in fight o’ercome thee.
Burn up the foolish ones, the flesh-devourers let none of them escape thine heavenly arrow.
- Rig Veda (10.87.16-19)
ruclips.net/video/0TIkB7WDArE/видео.html
But vedas have a lot of violence in it
Funny she is accusing you of getting exposure by using catchy phrases. Has she ever checked what popular phrases Sadhguru is using to get his exposure? Why me - a person having nothing to do with Indian guru - have known him? Because I was checking once about "suicide"... and he used this provocative keyword.
These people trying to justify what is easier for them, not what is the right thing
Hye david , i agree with you completely i have the same thoughts for sadhguru infact i am pretty much aware with my culture and history.
and i can say this without any hesitation that sadhguru is a swindler because i can recognise a real guru but he is not
Narendra from Delhi,India
I'm Indian and I agree!
I don't think you're happy by yourself and you don't know what Sadhguru is
@@skandasonu7463 typical reply from a person who blindly follows him :) I'm happy by myself.
You don't need a Godman who wears expensive watches and owns BMWs to teach you self realization and detachment from the materialistic world.
@@gauri5465 do u think I believe in him now way I'm a atheist and always opposed to follow any guru or anyone..when I saw his some random vedio i thought he was so practical and it's true and I just followed some yoga practices and visted his ashram once and I was amazed what all they do and how it works...and I m still an atheist but I do yoga on regularl basis and it has bought tremendous change in me like quit smoking , alcohol , fear and so many things
@@skandasonu7463 if he has helped u then it's good... His teachings are not wrong. They are on par with Buddhism...but he does not practice what he preaches so I don't like his personality. Have nothing against his ashram or the ppl who reside there 😊
You can NOT be spiritual and eat animal products. It’s a complete contradiction to what spirituality is. Compassion, love and respect for life.
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
I appreciate people with minds like yours. Thank you.
Love your work, David. Keep making content. Ethical and logically sound people support you.
Hey is a good debater but his logic is not solid based as it’s built on narrow rigid view point & detached from what’s actually reality ( thinks all farmers are abusers& profit centered) & what is more effective ways to limit animal abuse after acknowledging the reality of humanities diet habits , needs & preferences . . & what life styles human also benefit from & prefer. . Which is all based on having beneficial relationships with our fellow animals & plant life, which all animals involved (including humans) equally benefit from when done properly.
But you know why put in
All that work to look after animals & build up mutual respect & beneficial relationships. . When you can just go vegan in your personal diet than tell everyone else they are bad people unless they do the same , even as you know a huge majority will never go vegan . .
If you really care for animals & humanity imo you would do what we do & support all your animal friends who both live on the farm land & who are apart of your local wild life . .
We build up the forests with permaculture forest development which we don’t even utilize for our self but mainly do so for wild life ..
At same time we look after & provide for chickens & cows & bees on our land , who again we do not abuse , do not over use , & do not kill. By doing so we really stop the abuse & miss use of animals because those who will never go vegan will buy from us instead of the factories & old fashion farmers who see animals as products & not as partners & friends as we do.
That’s great there is vegans in the world . . But some see their health decline when go vegan , & most just don’t wish to be vegan all together , so if you really love animals so much you need to do more than just promote & be vegan . . Seems like common sense to me. . But to each their own.
Some people get stuck in ego & want to view all animals & plants as humanities victims. . Imo not realizing how they are putting animals as below humanity & at will of humanity in every way. They are also demonizing humanity as if all relationships humans build must be money focused & profit based & so built on abuse & misuse.
Not all humans live or function this way & not all humans miss treat animals & or see animals as below them . . It’s just not reality. Many live with animals & plants , respect & love & serve them as family & friends. Just like all beneficial relationships , yes all sides give & take from all sides.
Animals live a safe , warm & carefree life with us as their providers & protectors. . & in return the animals proved a few eggs , or some milk or some honey. These animals in this relationship are not victims. They are equal partners.
& I am no fan of This guru on side note . . It makes me uncomfortable when other humans place humans above them . . I have also heard him support the idea that not everyone needs to know full truths of things , which I am all about wanting to know truth & think all deserve full truth too . .
& I have heard him support people should stick to their own class & nothing wrong with this that the rich should get best schooling & food & so on & the poor only needs to see small improvement & they are happy as don’t know better so why teach them to be unhappy with what they get & know of world & so on . . He is the same type of leadership we have always seen promoted . . One who won’t rock the boat of the 1% globalist owning & running everything & who supports the class structures from what I have heard . .
Beyond this he says just odd things at times that makes no sense lol like how to have a good day or bad day / to have emotions means your operating as a animal state . . Emotions are not a sign your in a lower state of being lol 😆 they are powerful sources of consciousness & in the face of the one true one / i am , you feel nothing but joy & love which is a emotional frequency is it not ? Lol 😆
Not only this . . But he has trashed talked my mother at times ! My mother who as taught me so much & allow my spiritual gifts to grow & who came to me on her own as I knew nothing of her ! Ma kali ! One of the greatest masks 🎭 god has worn to approach us with . . & he said he dismisses her for most & fears her for most & thinks she unneeded for most because she is “ complicated & overly powerful” . . He clearly doesn’t think you deserve or desire much out of life as a “ average seeker” . . My mother disagrees ! She loves all & is here to teach all no matter what level they start on! Fuck this guru trying to keep her hidden & chained up ! Fuck this guru for trying to keep humanity dumb & blinded to full reality !
Sorry but I love my mother so those comments he makes when he speaks on her has to be addressed. . Just because he enjoys sucking shivas dick doesn’t make kali lesser. If shiva wasn’t such a uptight prick maybe he would receive same love & if he gave more results like she does maybe more would be excited to follow shiva as her. Until than x flips off guru on the ma kali vs shiva subject x don’t get me wrong they both useful . . But I will be damned if I am going to let this dude shit talk my mom because he a daddy boy.
If there is no right or wrong, why is she countering your arguments.
She wasn't even smart enough to figure that one out
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Wow, what a fake compassion she has... Yes her idol made fun of emotional beings who are victims, yes he deserves scrutiny for that. simple.
David, keep on rocking.
Thank you brother. I know the arguments and debates get extremely obnoxious and frustrating. Thanks for going in.
David my family of 3 have turned to veganism from vegetarianism...after watching your videos..kudos to your efforts
I'm from india and ur every words makes sense
Well done bro 👍
Making animals sterile is that cruelty..!??
If not would you like to make some random child sterile without their consent...?? Reply really needed cuz I'm f**king my mind asking this question to myself and want to know others opinion...
I love your channel and appreciate your work!
Thank you ❤️
Works to put out hate🤡
@@chuchu1872 hate against hypocrites...complete your sentence kiddo
@@Shadow.Phoenix chu chu 🤡🥸
ABSOLUTELY SLAYED, good job!
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria wth? You're drunk, go to sleep
@@Androide323 you said your opinion, i said my opinion. Deal with it.
@@superskaria your opinion is bs that's why I assumed you're drunk, now go on, it's way past bed time
@@Androide323 yeah... just an example Convicts assume many things and end up where they belong.
I appreciate your time in outlining your passion to save animals
Hi David, I liked your video on the topic. Gurus like Sadhguru are really misleading the entire Indian society on the name of spiritualism and mysticism. Now a days there is flood of religious and spiritual gurus in India knowing the fact that Indians blindly believe in gurus but there should be someone who could show people the reality the way it is. Keep it up..
Indian are know to have babs and riahis and sanyasis, i do agree there are many people who misused the name of babas..why you should have sense and know qhat is true and not...we are indians..some out sider is talking some shot about our people how can you afgree with him...this is other words called as antinational...he didnt show the things the way it is....personally go through all the sadhguru videos and then talk...mind it that we are indians and i dont like you handshaking with an outsider that too on wrong assumption.
Hey David! Great job exposing this huge apologist of every single wrongdoing Sad-guru and his followers are doing! The one where she's defended the threats you've recieved says so much about her. Once again, more power to you! ✨
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Damn bro, I am from India and your videos on sadhguru made my day. I totally support you. Besides, whoever that girl is, she completely looks brain-washed, hypnotized and robotic. Love from India bro..
Sadhguru is terrible! I’m going to make a vegan music video on my channel about this
Yes do make it i will definitely watch it but you should be aware of the fact that all the andhbhakts like this girl will dislike the video but i will definitely give a thumbs up 👍😊
@@renubadal641 thank you!
@@_Razo 😊
Please post the link here. Would love to add it to my sadguru playlist
You don’t know Sadhguru, if you know him, you will love him ☺️❤️
“There is no absolute right and absolute wrong” Yea sure, dairy is relative wrong, (relative to cows).
Very nicely explained, David, love you so much 💝
Killing when we clearly don't have to is wrong.
I wish it was mandatory to teach basic critical thinking skills before an individual can graduate.
fr 😂!
I've been thinking about that.
Like how to teach that.
And how to reach lots of ppl.
You are inspiring me to go vegan for the animals. Thank you for sharing your truth, David!
I hope you find some space in your big heart to forgive these fanatics (like this person supporting Sadhguru’s “Bullshit”).
Peace, love and happiness to you!
☮️💜🌼
Bulllshit emphasis on the lL
Just Subscribed. Superb, you are the best man. Don't let them keep you down if you stayed genuine you will have more followers than even Sadhguru.
I hope so.
From an indian (I think it goes for most of their spiritual philosophies) standpoint all beings have their particular purpose and agreed before incarnation to the conditions they will live in. That is not to say it is o.k. to let anybody suffer - including animals and plants - but that the suffering is a very strong aid in pursuing awakening and is therefore an agreed with condition of any incarnation (- in their believe - in the evolution of life the animal incarnation comes previous to the human one and is therefore part of the evolutionary process towards awakening ). I think Sadhgurus laughter is not about neglecting animals ... it is coming from an attitude of acceptance. The acceptance of the "Wheel of incarnations" and the implications that this has for all beeings - Karma and suffering. I am not a particular fan of his, but I think I can take his remarks as something that has to be seen in a specific context. And if he is an enlightened person, he has left that wheel of incarnations and the suffering ... if you watch those spiritual teachers who claim to be enlightened, they all tend to have a "lighthearted" kind of smiling or in his case even laughing approach to our "misery " and it is not because they are lacking in compassion. I am pretty sure of that. But they are still human beings and have different character-traits....I have a total appreciation for your effort in protecting the animals and standing up for them so passionately. I think both concepts of life (yours and his) have their purpose and value. You are no opponents. Keep up the good work and all the best to you!
1. Milk is not part of sadhgurus diet
2.Sadhguru nor Shato100 will waste time with you more then they already have
3. You are wrong when saying that sadhguru is not special or important because he is and people will know his work after a 1000years, we cant say same about you.
4.Sadhguru has made more people to stop eating meat than you ever will
5.My intention is not to mock or nothing like that but lets be honest you are an fanatic and thats why you dont get to talk to them in public or livestream
In 1,000 years there’ll be another Sadhguru brainwashing the public and acting like a god and no one will remember this guy
The irony of you saying I’m a fanatic whilst fanatically defending your master is not lost on me 😂
And yes, milk is a part of Sadhguru’s diet, and only a few years ago so was fish, maybe you should research a little bit more about what your god is doing 🙏🏼
@@davidramms What god are you talking about? Yogi is not a god.. So do you claim you are not fanatic? I think that you produce far more stresshormone by yourself that you even could get from meat. You dont even have one video without swearwords spit coming out of your mouth.. just calm down..
Ive been plantbased for over 10 years and for me that is the best way to eat, your kind of fanatics are the reason i never call my self vegan.
@@davidramms So are you saying your words will last till eternity? And yes David, you are fanatical. ps, I am also a defender of animals!! But!! I would never! choose the tactic you deploy! You drive more away than you think. Sorry man! You gotta chill a bit! If you want to kill then kill with kindness!!!
To use religion as a claim for any behaviour is for me not a valid explanation.
You're in the right and he's in the wrong. It's pretty simple when logical coherency is applied.
it also matters in what way u use cows. The right way is u milk them but also give them food and water convenient life and a family, and 5000 years ago they were not mistreating cows like now industries.
That palms together gesture 🙏😂
Jallikattu is not bullfight bro. Do some good research about Tamil Culture.
Jallikattu is one of the major reasons that more than 16 varieties of Indigenous Bulls are still alive in Tamil Nadu.
Hope it helps!
If there's no absolute right or wrong, what the the hell is my uncle doing in prison. He owes me plenty of birthday gifts lol
That’s some of the dumbest logic I’ve ever seen
If morality is Subjective,
Treat it as Objective for good.
Always in India people won't choose a guru - it's just that - they deepen the longing of knowing ultimate truth - a guru will address as a consequence.
Sadhguru is not for solace &comfort in life - he is way beyond -beyond your logical sense
Sad Guru u mean
@@rlalrinsanga9886 lol 😆 😝😝😝😝
Have split my sides laughing 😃 bro
David, you are 100% right; we need to make society aware of how much animals suffer as a result of human intentions; yet, in India, most people live in rural areas, where disseminating the word can cause havoc. We can control them up to a point, but it is quite difficult to reach out to them and convince them of animal misery. Even if they did, the most of them are incapable of change. Because the majority of people are unable to afford to adopt a completely healthy vegan diet.
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*BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!*
Thanks a lot for this video brother. Keep up the good work.
well done David. Good work.
I support you David! Skepticism is necessary to not fall into other mentors/gurus false information. Even when it comes to religion skeptism is essential like you cannot blindly follow teachings of certain religions without them making sense.
You're a formidable force in the community! ❤️ Love from India
I agreed with you David.. so many fools following fools.. their gonna die without knowing the truth.. sad
Thank you so much for exposing such people.. Keep up the good work
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
@@superskaria You again.
Same fanciful words from you.
@@BoogieBoogsForever thank you... At the least you find it fanciful...!!!
Can not agree more . Keep it up💯✌️
Great job David! When are you going to be invited for a TedTalk? :)
Hahahaha! He will never be invited by them. Bet you!! Lets bet!!
I used to think that 🌱 Vegans were under nourished and weak, little did I know that quite a few people who I knew were Taoist and were consumers of plant 🪴 based diets. Really changed my views of plant based diets and the possibilities and varieties of their meat 🥩 substitutes. I was so surprised of the results of how well it went when I tried the foods for myself. Really couldn’t tell the difference
Love your work 💚💚💚
Hinduism at its core is about the truth, and self realization. She doesnt wanna admit that even Sadhguru can be wrong.
Keep up your good work. This sister has fewer speaking skills, it's apparent. She was more respectful towards you than you were to her.
Her nonsensical rebuttals / arguments stem from ignorance/ misunderstandings not arrogance. She means and is humble in most of her speech.
Hope that your good work opens her eyes to truth and responsibilities of a human?
Dear David Ramms, if you have a Livestream/ debate with her, be softer than you usually seem to be in your videos. Help her understand.
that's a matured comment in this comment section. but the thing is everyone wants to be famous and rich and these things make them do what david is doing. I don't blame him for that.
🙏🙏🙏🙌👏👏👏👏 well said.the truth is the truth. Namaste
always respect you sir, all your videos are eye opener. me myself once was a follower of sadhguru but that one video in which he said "whats better to murder them or torture them " was a game changer. i dont know how people can be this blindfolded
From ITALY thank you for this videos I‘ve started following Sadghuru after been suggested by a friend who she’s an obsessed vegan! But since the beginning I couldn’t stand him… I didn’t focused so much cause I do prefer OSHO, but now you helped me to get some elements and get rid of my inconsistent vegan friend, and I’m not vegan but I have strong believes on RESPECTING ANIMIC lifes of animals! THANK YOU GASSHÒ 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I don't have an issue with Sadhguru activists, but this extremists shouldn't judge you for bullying Sadhguru
Almost 90 percent of people supporting Sadhguru are either believers of Hinduism or indirect believers of Hinduism they only support him cuz what he speaks is of the Hindu culture and teachings base, if he spoke with Christian culture and teachings base none of these guys would support him and again his followers would become majority Christians. This shows that in the end it all boils down to one's beliefs in religion and me being an Indian myself very well know the stubborn nature of Indians. so when these guys say "what he means is the things of the real life and how life works and not whether its based on hinduism or not" trying to support him, what they really mean is "our belief is the only true one and Sadhguru proves it so fuck your beliefs and join ours."
P.s I'm not saying every Indian or Hindus are like that you just need to think on your own to decide whether someone is right or wrong
David Ramms: I'm looking forward to the day when you take on the carnivore climate scientists who won't tell their followers that the world must switch to a plant-based diet if we are to avoid the dire consequences of global warming. I would love to hear what you have to say about these men of science who disregard the science of meat/dairy-production agriculture's contribution to global warming and destruction of the biosphere.
Power to you broda, love from India. Keep exposing bullshit💕
I am hindu from a different tradition than this one still i want to say something. Even if i respect the fact that you have discovered something that you consider something ethically right and real, because this is fundamental in one s life....i ve been vegan since some years, vegetarian before, still nonspiritual people who eats meat sometimes gives lessons of behaviour towards humans to the rest. What is the difference between what you are doing and what religions did by going against each other? I didn t use the word kill because you are not killing, but yes you are going against them not in a very diplomatic way, What happens now if a person who rises in spirituality laughs at someones ignorance of killing a human or an animal? It s a non believer of compassion for animal s life? Be aware specially speaking of things that you dont know, and specially if you ridiculice people and other people s beliefs.
Why you do it? Oh yes, because you want to expose every hipocrite , crussade, look I understand that certain things you don't understand, you have not experienced yet so for your cause you do what you can in the way that you know : This means everyone is evolving and our essence remains the same and we have to learn to understand each other and respect and love each other, that s the true meaning of there is not absolute good or bad, it has nothing to do to go and punch in the face to somebody. You can t take an expression of hinduism wich reflects a deeper meaning taking the surface. Your whole full potential of strenght and wisdom is not limited, yet you get assumptions of what is about things that you dont understand, please don t ridiculize cult or a Guru if you don t know about it fully.
Spiritual masters it depends on the tradition also how much , but there are many levels of realization, the fact you think different in one aspect doesn t make you necessarily more evolved, but you neither know if there is something wrong even you being Vegan with the way cows are treated in the sanctuarys/ashrams, i m against animal fighting but i nor know what s going on exactly in the sense of what have been said and this Guru has done a lot of Good for people because they come for that. A better attitude will be "i disagree completely with that, i think you are completely wrong on that, still i respect you, lets speak. "
Understand that as veganism is a higher value , respect for others also. If you have love for life please dont call her name in that way, it s very sad, if you stand for love then please understand it kindly. In the other hand, Spirituality has suffered a lot from Guruphobia and i will not enter now in the source of the problem, but since ( since, in authority aspect) Yogananda where politics started to attack him, to even the most sweetest one have been attacked and discredited by slander, all men who has done something positive have been in fact, please don t nourish that. It s not about comparing Gurus, its about how much can we learn as human beings from each other, of much can we learn to Love and discover who we truly are and be truly happy.
You are a fucKing genius and I absolutely fucking love you and your attitude. That’s it. I could just go on like this for ever but …u get the point. U help a lot, trust me, just that not many are capable of understanding this information. ❤
I hope SadGuru can become HappiGuru one day... Go vegan.
You miss quoted him in the first f****** minute he never said he supported animal cruelty
Well said mate, ✌🏽 💚
If she is against science why is she wearing glasses - ophthalmology, medical SCIENCE.
Why is she using computers - computer SCIENCE .
🤣🤣 good point
Oof. This poor confused fool is in for a rude awakening.
It is sad that this is what your day consists of... people like you are the real reason that there is very little growth amongst humans. Please just live your life... 😢
amazing video david; thank you for calling this guru & his cultish followers out! 💯 if i may, i recommend seeing Acharya Prashant. an absolutely amazing guru who is vegan & is against animal cruelty. he has a few videos discussing it on his channel. he follows advaita vedanta and has some great content. thank you for all the amazing content coming out, you’ll be at 10k super soon! ✌🏼
I don't eat meat and I do my best to respect all life from mosquito,ant to elephant and (I kill when I feel it's most necessary I am talking about mosquito 😅) but when it's avoidable I go to great lengths even if it's waste of my time,having said that I never go around and tell people I am vegetarian or non vegetarian...that's total BS as far as I am concerned.
In my house everyone eats meat and i am the only one does not. But I respect everyone's choice of food, but there is one rule I tell everyone in my family you may eat what you want but kindly never tell me what I should eat.
Because food is not fanciful idea game, and respect for other life does not end just with animals.... Remember that first. Life is all around you... Every action In your life which when done in excess it's against life....
You use your car unnecessarily it's against life, you use you phone unnecessarily it's sgainst life and so on and on....
Are you able to see the relationship of car and phone to the that of animals and phenomenon called as life....
If you had you would not have started a conversation on a subject matter which you are less informed about.
Anyway wishing you a wonderful day ahead...!!!
Hey is a good debater but his logic is not solid based as it’s built on narrow rigid view point & detached from what’s actually reality ( thinks all farmers are abusers& profit centered) & what is more effective ways to limit animal abuse after acknowledging the reality of humanities diet habits , needs & preferences . . & what life styles human also benefit from & prefer. . Which is all based on having beneficial relationships with our fellow animals & plant life, which all animals involved (including humans) equally benefit from when done properly.
But you know why put in
All that work to look after animals & build up mutual respect & beneficial relationships. . When you can just go vegan in your personal diet than tell everyone else they are bad people unless they do the same , even as you know a huge majority will never go vegan . .
If you really care for animals & humanity imo you would do what we do & support all your animal friends who both live on the farm land & who are apart of your local wild life . .
We build up the forests with permaculture forest development which we don’t even utilize for our self but mainly do so for wild life ..
At same time we look after & provide for chickens & cows & bees on our land , who again we do not abuse , do not over use , & do not kill. By doing so we really stop the abuse & miss use of animals because those who will never go vegan will buy from us instead of the factories & old fashion farmers who see animals as products & not as partners & friends as we do.
That’s great there is vegans in the world . . But some see their health decline when go vegan , & most just don’t wish to be vegan all together , so if you really love animals so much you need to do more than just promote & be vegan . . Seems like common sense to me. . But to each their own.
Some people get stuck in ego & want to view all animals & plants as humanities victims. . Imo not realizing how they are putting animals as below humanity & at will of humanity in every way. They are also demonizing humanity as if all relationships humans build must be money focused & profit based & so built on abuse & misuse.
Not all humans live or function this way & not all humans miss treat animals & or see animals as below them . . It’s just not reality. Many live with animals & plants , respect & love & serve them as family & friends. Just like all beneficial relationships , yes all sides give & take from all sides.
Animals live a safe , warm & carefree life with us as their providers & protectors. . & in return the animals proved a few eggs , or some milk or some honey. These animals in this relationship are not victims. They are equal partners.
& I am no fan of This guru on side note . . It makes me uncomfortable when other humans place humans above them . . I have also heard him support the idea that not everyone needs to know full truths of things , which I am all about wanting to know truth & think all deserve full truth too . .
& I have heard him support people should stick to their own class & nothing wrong with this that the rich should get best schooling & food & so on & the poor only needs to see small improvement & they are happy as don’t know better so why teach them to be unhappy with what they get & know of world & so on . . He is the same type of leadership we have always seen promoted . . One who won’t rock the boat of the 1% globalist owning & running everything & who supports the class structures from what I have heard . .
Beyond this he says just odd things at times that makes no sense lol like how to have a good day or bad day / to have emotions means your operating as a animal state . . Emotions are not a sign your in a lower state of being lol 😆 they are powerful sources of consciousness & in the face of the one true one / i am , you feel nothing but joy & love which is a emotional frequency is it not ? Lol 😆
Not only this . . But he has trashed talked my mother at times ! My mother who as taught me so much & allow my spiritual gifts to grow & who came to me on her own as I knew nothing of her ! Ma kali ! One of the greatest masks 🎭 god has worn to approach us with . . & he said he dismisses her for most & fears her for most & thinks she unneeded for most because she is “ complicated & overly powerful” . . He clearly doesn’t think you deserve or desire much out of life as a “ average seeker” . . My mother disagrees ! She loves all & is here to teach all no matter what level they start on! Fuck this guru trying to keep her hidden & chained up ! Fuck this guru for trying to keep humanity dumb & blinded to full reality !
Sorry but I love my mother so those comments he makes when he speaks on her has to be addressed. . Just because he enjoys sucking shivas dick doesn’t make kali lesser. If shiva wasn’t such a uptight prick maybe he would receive same love & if he gave more results like she does maybe more would be excited to follow shiva as her. Until than x flips off guru on the ma kali vs shiva subject x don’t get me wrong they both useful . . But I will be damned if I am going to let this dude shit talk my mom because he a daddy boy.