Setup Part 2 of the "Fully-Assembled" Prusa XL 5 Toolhead
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I’m so glad to find you. I assembled my Prusa XL and I have to say that without you and your video will be much harder that was. Thank you so much for your help.
You have the best assembly videos. Most others spend more time filming themselves instead of the machine and the steps. Very well done!
Haha. I am probably too detailed in my videos. But I try to make what I would want to see. Thanks!
I love the title! “Fully Assembled” 😂😂😂
Haha. Yeah took me over 3 hours. 🤦♀️
I don’t think they should have called it fully assembled
I agree it was time to step back and take a break. I'm impressed with the amount of logic and testing built into the printer firmware. I think aligning the toolheads would be a nightmare without it.
Yeah I can't imagine the amount of work they go through! Thanks!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, and more thanks to you. I have not finished yet, but I was stuck trying to get the first calibration, and you helped me move on to the next steps. It is already late and I'm going to bed, but at least I made some progress, thanks to you. And thank you for putting quotes to the word "fully assembled". I too paid for a "fully assembled" printer. :) Hopefully everything will be all right soon.
Glad it helped you! Thanks so much!
I would have stopped and had a break. Start again fresh the next day. Great videos. This is giving me some ideas on the Jubilee Tool Changer that I'm building.
What printer are you designing it for? Thanks!
That is a lot of work to get your mostly assembled printer going. If you think you should take a break, then take a break. I always find things go much smoother if I am not tired or frustrated.
I felt like I was so close but I couldn't sit and watch it for another 15 mins. Thank you!
its the most minimal amount of work possible.
having the LCD and tool heads installed from the factory would almost double the packaging size which would more than double the shipping cost and it would add 6 possible things to break during transit.
Also you would still need to re calibrate everything because you can be sure things will be shifting a bit during transit.
so overall this is the optimal solution.
You did the right thing and walk away, tomorrow is a different day, You will get it.
Thank you!
Yeah, walking away from something that's causing unnecessary frustration is the right thing to do. This is getting me excited about my XL5, supposed to arrive next week.
Oh hooray! Thanks!
Ich hätte es genauso gemacht wie du es gemacht hast. Wenn man merkt, es geht nicht mehr. Dann sollte man auch wenn man noch so sehr will einfach schluss machen. Ich bin schon lange im 3D Druck ertappe mich aber immer noch teils die dümmsten Fehler zu wiederholen. Einer davon ist: Gehe niemals! niemals Müde an deinen 3D Drucker. Es kommt nur mist bei raus! Deswegen du hast alles richtig gemacht. Erhoe dich gut von dem Stress!
Vielen Dank! Ich stimme zu, wenn man einmal müde und frustriert ist, wird nichts mehr funktionieren.
Vielen Dank für Ihre Mitgliedschaft!
Nice to see this, you've been talking about your order for the 5 tool XL forever!
I know! It's exciting to finally have it! Thanks!
You definitely did the right thing.
Thank you!
I couldn't tell if you did on all 5 docks, but be sure to use the tool, or a flathead screwdriver, to make sure the two pics are nice and tight. If they loosen from un/docking, it will crash. Not sure what's up with the offset calibration failures, but make sure all the nozzles are secure in their nextruders, and all plugs are secure in their receptacles. Also, the USB comes with updated firmware on it, so if you haven't seen it flash new firmware again since the first boot, reset with the USB still inserted to make sure it checks and updates. Also, some people who have had similar issues, went ahead and updated to the alpha firmware and got it working.
Yeah I was wanting to know what things were like before updating. Now I do want to flash the firmware. I may try that out a bit and then try out the Alpha. Thanks!
It's a classic situation: The thing you wanted to get done real quick turns out to be far more time consuming than anticipated. But you waited so long already and are eager to see it working, now that you are so close to the finish line.
If at this point something doesn't work as expected, that's the best moment to just let it sit and take a break. If there was any mistake on your side, that break will make your brain automatically retrace all the steps, while the process is still in your short term memory and you are likely to find out, what, if anything you did wrong. From watching I'd say you did everything right. Maybe, like someone else mentioned, you forgot to tighten the docking pins with that small handle/tool, maybe the cable bundle on tool 5 being more straight than the others means there is some twist or tension in that bundle and it might help to take cable and tube out of those orange clips, straighten everything and put it back in (just a wild guess).
Look at it like that: you have some more time to be exited for the great moment to come and you wouldn't have printed anything impressive at that time anyway.
So far you did a great job at assembling your "fully assembled" five-head (gotta say I'm quite a bit jealous). Also you did great on the MK4 and the MMU3.
Thanks so much! I slept good and was excited to get back to it. Thanks!
a break is always good, a clear mind is best FYI: check the nozzles to make sure there tight.
Thank you!
Prusa says they have 24/7 support, I would have got on the online chat and asked them why my $4000 printer won't complete a calibration test.
Haha no kidding. I have a list of things I need to get on support about. Maybe I can knock them all out in one chat. Thanks!
Pretty weird flukes at the beginning, I've also had a random hotend fan failure on my MK4 when running the selftest, but after running it plenty of times again I couldn't reproduce it. Possiblly just a firmware bug
Edit: just finished watching the video, XY failure was apparently not just a fluke. Good luck fixing it in the next video, I believe in you!
Yeah I feel like the calibration seems very strange. It is printing now. Now I'm focused on stringing. Thanks!
@@tada3dprintinglower temps by 10-15 degrees! the XL prints super hot
great job keep it up i like your videos
Thank you!
The screen shows you have firmware 4.7.1 installed. They have a version 4.7.2 avail. Updating to that may help this calibration issue.
You're right. I didn't want to change anything at first but I think I will upgrade after all. Thank you!
Oh yes I walked away from building a model (some are called shelf queens) in model geek, My full sized vinyl model of a gremlin I took a break because of seam lines on the arms just would not align right. going back to it I put on aves expoxy putty over the seams and painted them gold put a Mardi Gra $ necklace on him and called him Louie. In the end turned out to be one of my favorite models...
That's nice to hear. Sometimes a fresh prospective is all you need. Thanks!
You did the right thing of taking a break.
And you are fare more resistant against frustration than I am as I probably would have packed everything back up and sent it back after the first crash and reboot of the machine. Yes, it is a complex product. Yes, there are continuous improvements. But no, the product should not be "bananaware" and mature / become good at the customer. The introduction of the XL has already been delayed for far too long for that, and if there are still full crashes after years of development work, my trust would be gone.
I still haven't converted my pre-order into a real order - and the more videos I watch, the more I'm leaning towards waiting a few more weeks. While I don't really want to cancel, if this doesn't start getting better...
For a not exactly cheap printer I would have expected more... Come on, Prusa, you can do better!
I'm not as impressed as I would like to be. It's cool. But it all comes down to getting good prints. If you're hesitant, I think just holding on a but makes the most sense. Thanks!
Setting up the XL is quite a tedious job. For a 5 tool XL it takes about 25 minutes if you do it right the first time. I had to try four times. It is all about the right tension on screws and the right timing for touching the nozzels. Don't apply any pressure on the build plate during the whole proses. Just read the text on the screen carefully and exactly do what it says within a reasonable amount of time.
After the initial install the XL is running flawless and very reliable. The only downside is some stringing with the tool changes.
Have you been able to minimize the stringing? Thanks so much!
@@tada3dprinting The newest firmware does reduces stringing by a faster retraction speed and a little movement of the toolhead. The little blobs that came with the tool changes are completely gone.
I set the retraction before a tool change to 2.5 mm (PETG 3 mm). This does reduce stringing at the side of the print even more. At the purge tower there is stil a lot of stringing.
Stringing is a disadvantage of tool changing and can not be prevented. Strings are now easy to remove with a heat gun.
Hi, we went through all of the steps and have the extruder preheat error code. Do you have any experience with this? I'd love to have your input on how to resolve this
I have not had that error. Does it give you a QR code?
You installed dock pins back only in handtight. I'm not sure is it enough.
Oh that's a good point. I'll tighten them. Thanks!
I got the same error you got but it keeps happening on tool one. It goes to do the probe and then it just shuts down. Tried 20 times and it just wont get past the first one with out restarting.
I saw someone put the pin in and removed the plastic part from it. Made me wonder if I did my calibration wrong? But if it failed that many times, I would get on prusa chat. Hope you get it!
@@tada3dprinting ya, I thought the plastic part was supposed to be removed on the calibration pin as it just comes off so easy. I opened a chat with prusa and they were lost. My first agent just dc'ed and the second one just said someone from the engineering team would email me. So now I am stuck waiting. I'm just a tad bit salty cause I spent 4k and waited 3 years for this printer for it to not work.
Unfortunately... I would have kept going. I think it's some sort of OCD. A nagging itch in my brain that says, "the problem is small just 1 more minute, change 1 little thing it will work". 5 hours later. Many small changes and I find out the machine is good, just some good old user error. Forgot to plug 1 thing in...
Or my favorite, i once replaced a screw on my extruder mount. It went a little too far and lined up just right to prevent my hemera extruder gear from turning. A new motherboard and new extruder later not to mention countless hours of disassembling and rebuilding... only to find that 120 dollar screw... i swear it was laughing at me. Got a shorter one and I was back in business. On the plus side I got to replace the loud fans. It's all whisper quiet now.
Yeah it's so frustrating not knowing what the one issue is. Thank you!
And right away I can't even come close to passing the fan test. 2-3 errors every time. Screen goes by faster than I can read what to do.
It's erratic. random failures. All 5 on first row. Sometimes 2-3 on first row and 1 on the bottom. 22m wait for LiveChat. Wish me luck. But my first impression and from what i'm seeing online is not boding well for the XL
Update. I did about 30 tries. It came with 4.7.5 which I thought was fine but Chat help told me to flash to the 5.1.0. Pass on first try.
Wow that's wild that just changing the firmware made that much of a change! They definitely need to starr shipping with a more updated firmware! But I'm glad to hear you passed!
got to be honest for the price of this printer I'm not impressed
Same. It's cool when the tools are changing. It looks great in person. But I just feel like it's going to take more work that I expected. I'll see how I feel once it's tuned. Thanks!
This is enough to get me to cancel my order. I want a reliable printing appliance, not a full-time hobby project. I'll just stick with my Mk3.
It's great to have a giant size. I would wait until you get the email and decide then. But I understand if you think it's too much trouble. Thanks!
I'm not sure what you expect, hut some of the other mutli tool head printers have manual calibration with no assistance from the printer. If I remember correctly this was one of the reasons the E3D tool changer was so difficult to get running. Check out my friends video on it Chris's basement ruclips.net/video/7W5pPm0lZDE/видео.html&ab_channel=ChrisRiley
what exactly is a hobby project about this?
this is a one time calibration procedure.