@@thewalrus45 Leblanc is not a villain or a main antagonist of the story. She is not good either Yes, but she is not also Evil. She is only preventing things probably cataclysms like the Rune Wars or Mordekaiser returns from happening again. If you watch it again, her main purpose here is Ambessa, with her goal with the Arcane and by recruiting Mel. Mel is not the first one to be manipulated by Leblanc, as she is already all over Runeterra. Her purpose is only to invite, and free to decline, just like how Swain ended his part with the BlackRose. Noxus is more like the Politics Region, everyone with power there will fight for themselves, and the BlackRose/Leblanc is always the support/guest character that uses manipulations just the same here in Arcane.
As a true LeBlanc main, I can tell you this: LeBlanc made Mel go through those experiences to unlock her powers. Showing Kino and killing Elora were entirely aimed at triggering the strength within her. Because LeBlanc would explore and attempt every possible way to stop Mordekaiser. Just like in Rell's story. Ahh, LeBlanc, you are truly the most beautifully written character ever.
@theemployer-pj4iv she isnt exactly a villain, even though her methods involve killing innocents, she does this for a greater good which is protecting lol world from mordekaiser
So basically: Ambessa has had a conflict with the Black Rose for years, and has had a desire for conquest that mixed with that conflict. The conflict eventually reached the point where Ambessa investigated the black rose and discovered the Exile Runes which the Black Rose had. The runes are used for weapons (Riven) and for a failsafe against Mordekaiser. While Ambessa managed to acquire the Rune Relics, The Black Rose retaliated and apprehended Kino, who was, at the time, also investigating the feud between Ambessa and the Black Rose. From there, the Black Rose discovered of a second child. the Black Rose tried to negotiate with Ambessa for the stolen rune relics back in exchange for Kino, but Ambessa cared only for the fact that the Black Rose kidnapped and later killed Kino, not that her own actions, even if for family, was what led to Kino's death. Mel will probably want to settle the dispute with the black rose, maybe avenge Kino and Elora, but given theres still plenty of room for negotiation now given that Ambessa's dead and the rune relics aren't of any use to Mel, she'll probably aim to find a place in Noxus to live up to her mother's legacy and survive.
are the runes the one she used to fight against mel and caitlyn? also if they r ik they were quite op but surely the reason of conflict could be much greater, also didnt kino mention that the reason black rose is having a conflict with ambessa is due to the fact that the "child" inherited something that was theirs, im guessing the birth of mel weakened the Arcane black rose used?
i dont fully understand how the black rose works as an organisation but given le blanc’s powers, wouldnt it be pointless to look for revenge or “settle scores” with them? In a way she cannot lose
I doubt it, mel is the one that was chosen by the wolf, the wolf chases those who try to escape death, my guess is mel will defeated mord mel and vladimir, since all of these escaped death.
Is that who voiced her shade? Or who voiced Leblanc herself. We only hear Leblancs real voice briefly when Amara says "what you've stolen, is worth more than gold." That quote sounds like the original VA, but I don't see her VA directly credited which made me wonder who did it.
She was not ever relevant to the plot. And the black rose is integral to Leagues overall lore, so it having more screentime than a show only charecter is good
@@brodyestes2376 she WAS relevant to the plot, a lot. or did you not even watch the show?? the fact that an important character from season 1 got less screentime in comparison to a new plot point that doesn't even add anything to the piltover and zaun story is ridiculous. we are not talking about league lore and what is "most important" lore wise. we are talking about arcane, a fvucking character driven plot.
@@crisssstopher Besides what Sevika already did in S2, what do you think was lacking if she had more screen time? The only thing would be negotiating Zaunites to help with the final fight, but that would just be filler. I don't see any need for more Sevika screen time, she had enough.
I know this show was insanely expensive but how is it not worth it for just these Black Rose scenes alone let alone the entire first two seasons? If I was a billionaire or whatever I would finance a third season just to have my name attached to what will go down as something historic.
She did not joined LeBlanck. She just assumed her mother was a bigger danger and decided to wait until Ambessa is defieted. It is like "You know I will return some day to avenge my brother and my friend" - - "I will be waiting".
@@Ash-lc1bu not dead. She most likely works for the Black Rose and it was a illusion to break/test Mel. You can see her exchange a quick secretive nod with Amara and her voice actor is a Black Rose spy in a game. From what I can tell TBR has spies stationed everywhere and at all levels of power and she was also one of them.
The only subplot where I felt like the writing was failing a bit instead of just being fast paced. Mel having magic powers was foreshadowed but it still feels so disconnected from the rest of the plot, we barely see anyone including Mel react to that fact, all we get is the explanation of why she and Jayce survived the explosion. The final scene here feels like Marvel writing in a way, its only saved by Ambessa finally being proud of her daughter as she is dying.
@@Azuressunset i always felt like this subplot was not actually meant for this show, but more like a foreshadow for future ones (next series announced for Noxus)
Because then they would need another season. Mel's powers are not really the point of the story. They had to be introduced but do it earlier and then you have to write the whole drama about her and her mother, her secrets, what it means she's a weapon and is she going to be forced to use it in the oppression of Zaun and if not then what then with the plot. So instead, they brought her back at the end so there's not much time to accommodate any of the questions and implications because there's a world ending threat literally right in front of you. But then they can use Mel in the future series if they want to and they use the time skip without having to answer all the questions again (how did she grow with her powers, what other people think about it etc)
I feel like the Black Rose arc would have been a season 3 storyline if they decided to do it instead of ending the series. Season 2 should have just focused on Viktor's ascension instead with Warwick and all. Arc 3 was kinda rushed.
I feel like Minnie Driver’s line should’ve been was, “Clever girl.” But, that’s just my JP fandom talking. When I heard her say that I immediately thought of Muldoon’s death in JP.
From what I know, Ambessa slept with someone and the child (Mel) inherited powers that the Black Rose need/want as a weapon. The Black Rose knew that it was one of Ambessa's children they were looking for, so they somehow captured Kino (Mel's brother) because they thought it was him. When it turns out he wasn't the child they were after, they gave Ambessa the choice between giving up Mel in exchange for Kino, or they'd kill Kino. Ambessa chose to save Mel, and the Black Rose is going after her since then.
@@Chaseroonie1ok thanks got it. But what is black rose connection to whats happening in piltover? They mentione at 1:00 that they knew what ambessa is trying to do in piltover and they wont allow it. Is this about hextech?
@@adriannaps2798i think she meant she either visits mel, or because as she is portrayed, she wants weapons for her conquest and hextech what was she needed
I still didn’t understand the CAUSE of Ambessa's death. Was it blood loss? Did Black Rose cast some kind of spell on her? Did she drain her life energy? Was she mortally wounded by the chains? HOW???
It was probably just some spell, you can see smoke leaving her body when after she is killed. I think the red void is an illusion inside people's heads, they never really leave the physical space they really are. You can see Ambessa in the exactly spot where she was, For the Noxus guards Mel just started shinning and Ambessa died bc of some red smoke.
I didnt unterstand the point of Mel activating the necklace power to send her mother with Le Blanc only for 5 seconds later get inside that thorns dimension and get her out from there.
she wanted to defeat both and pretended to be both's ally (till a point). The black rose took care of Ambessa and she took care of The black rose, got 2 birds with 1 stone
I think the point was to keep Mel as far away from the black rose as humanely possible. - I think Mel knowing would make her more intrigued to know more about them and have her snooping like Kino did. Eventually ending with her getting snatched up like they did in the show. Since Mel was the child they were looking for, Ambessa wanted to keep her hidden.
@@ScreenSprints well yeah, the effect makes one of the most beautiful animated shows ever put to screen look sloppy, boring and unimpactful. why wouldn't you hate that? i don't think it's unjustified outrage- i would hope you don't think the same. the animators never intended for this show to run at this framerate. the animations, as a result, do not look good at this framerate. a shot (like rictus' spear thrust) designed to have maximum cinematic impact at 24 fps will inevitably look like dogshit at 45, 60, whatever this was "upscaled" to. it doesn't look like animation because the choice of FPS the animators made was disrespected- it doesn't look accurate to life either, because animated characters aren't supposed to be subjected to motion smoothing. it just looks like mush. i'm not heartbroken that you've uploaded the scene this way, as your sarcastic "XD sowy" would imply. i just find it incredibly disappointing. i hope people see this comment and remember that arcane is supposed to look better than this.
@@thartmann9284 you know it's funny when you speak with such confidence as you somehow hold the absolute truth in taste for movies or what people like or dislike - for example, i uploaded other clips on the original fps and people complained about the lack of previous quality (60fps). and the ones i uploaded in 60fps are currently doing best on the channel lol and i wasn't sarcastic, i meant it as in "i understand you hate it, sowy, nothing i can do now" and btw, most of the studios choose 24fps not as an 'artistic touch', but because that's the industry standard for broadcast television oh, and btw 2.0: if you're mad now, go check my last short for Blue Eye Samurai 😂
@@ScreenSprints to be clear, i'm fully aware i'm not the arbiter of absolute truth here. people are entitled to their personal taste- i speak with confidence because i am an animator, a good few years of studying animation makes you really keen on noticing when something doesn't feel right, but you're right that it doesn't make me objectively correct. if your viewers want it for some reason more power to you and them. i just can't get behind watching arcane in a way other than it was originally animated. if people want to watch an "upscaled" version that severely muddies most of the nuance and emphasis this show's animation has to offer, then by all means. i just think it looks fundamentally wrong. and for what it's worth i truly don't think i'm frustrated with you personally, i'm just exhausted with trying to find clips for stuff like spiderverse and arcane and not being able to find the versions as they were originally animated because every channel and it's mother uploads the "upscales." it's not so much that i'm mad that the modified videos exist, just that they keep making the algorithm choke out any other version of the scene. it's not impossible to find the original scenes but it's infinitely harder than it should be 90% of the time.
@ i can understand that - if you need any particular scene unaltered, let me know and i’ll upload it for you (as long as it’s not like ‘every jinx scene in arcane’ 😆)
that's leblanc she's in the starring of all the champions and other side characters in arcane try to search in league of legends official page she's there😂
Black Rose is most certainly Leblanc + followers, that faceless witch uses Leblanc’s signature powers of illusion, deception and chains (one of her in game abilities).
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Do you think we’ll see more of The Black Rose in future series?
definetly will be important in the noxus spinoff
LeBlanc is pretty obviously gonna be one of the main antagonist of the Noxus series.
@@thewalrus45 Leblanc is not a villain or a main antagonist of the story. She is not good either Yes, but she is not also Evil. She is only preventing things probably cataclysms like the Rune Wars or Mordekaiser returns from happening again.
If you watch it again, her main purpose here is Ambessa, with her goal with the Arcane and by recruiting Mel. Mel is not the first one to be manipulated by Leblanc, as she is already all over Runeterra. Her purpose is only to invite, and free to decline, just like how Swain ended his part with the BlackRose.
Noxus is more like the Politics Region, everyone with power there will fight for themselves, and the BlackRose/Leblanc is always the support/guest character that uses manipulations just the same here in Arcane.
@@thewalrus45she is not an antagonist in the lore. She cares about her nation a lot.
@@birdywurdy is the spinoff show actually true?
Jayce and Mel really got put into the 8 levels of hell for no reason
It was significant though
Its more like they wanted to force the story into a specific direction.
What does it mean when she says I see your face deceiver is she stronger than Leblanc
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 do you have another direction?
@@toastee5421 No what I mean is that the story forced characters story into specific direction. In a way that doesn't feel natural.
“I haven’t insulted your intelligence, Ambessa. Do not insult mine” chills
As a true LeBlanc main, I can tell you this: LeBlanc made Mel go through those experiences to unlock her powers. Showing Kino and killing Elora were entirely aimed at triggering the strength within her. Because LeBlanc would explore and attempt every possible way to stop Mordekaiser. Just like in Rell's story. Ahh, LeBlanc, you are truly the most beautifully written character ever.
Who is LeBlanc
@@corsariocapitaoBillie Eillish
@@corsariocapitao The weird shadow lady apparently. Plus a main villain of League or Legends itself
@theemployer-pj4iv she isnt exactly a villain, even though her methods involve killing innocents, she does this for a greater good which is protecting lol world from mordekaiser
@@mariaalemara4465 ... Okay fair cuz that guy is too badass for lol
So basically:
Ambessa has had a conflict with the Black Rose for years, and has had a desire for conquest that mixed with that conflict.
The conflict eventually reached the point where Ambessa investigated the black rose and discovered the Exile Runes which the Black Rose had. The runes are used for weapons (Riven) and for a failsafe against Mordekaiser.
While Ambessa managed to acquire the Rune Relics, The Black Rose retaliated and apprehended Kino, who was, at the time, also investigating the feud between Ambessa and the Black Rose. From there, the Black Rose discovered of a second child.
the Black Rose tried to negotiate with Ambessa for the stolen rune relics back in exchange for Kino, but Ambessa cared only for the fact that the Black Rose kidnapped and later killed Kino, not that her own actions, even if for family, was what led to Kino's death.
Mel will probably want to settle the dispute with the black rose, maybe avenge Kino and Elora, but given theres still plenty of room for negotiation now given that Ambessa's dead and the rune relics aren't of any use to Mel, she'll probably aim to find a place in Noxus to live up to her mother's legacy and survive.
@@kingquality1484 Awesome summary, thank you! 🙏
are the runes the one she used to fight against mel and caitlyn? also if they r ik they were quite op but surely the reason of conflict could be much greater, also didnt kino mention that the reason black rose is having a conflict with ambessa is due to the fact that the "child" inherited something that was theirs, im guessing the birth of mel weakened the Arcane black rose used?
i dont fully understand how the black rose works as an organisation but given le blanc’s powers, wouldnt it be pointless to look for revenge or “settle scores” with them? In a way she cannot lose
I doubt it, mel is the one that was chosen by the wolf, the wolf chases those who try to escape death, my guess is mel will defeated mord mel and vladimir, since all of these escaped death.
@@vokdmso9898
LeBlank is weak af. Any time I mid against her its gg.
leblanc is so mysterious and i loved it
Between the Penguin and LeBlanc, Minnie Driver is KILLING it with voice acting this year
Is that who voiced her shade? Or who voiced Leblanc herself. We only hear Leblancs real voice briefly when Amara says "what you've stolen, is worth more than gold." That quote sounds like the original VA, but I don't see her VA directly credited which made me wonder who did it.
Shit is it the same actress?
@@Aletheia_soul She is credited to be in 3 episodes
4:15 hearing mel yelling was so scary 😭 toks did such a great job voicing her
can't believe the black rose got more screentime than sevika
She was not ever relevant to the plot. And the black rose is integral to Leagues overall lore, so it having more screentime than a show only charecter is good
people's obsession over Sevika needs to be studied I think.
@@brodyestes2376 she WAS relevant to the plot, a lot. or did you not even watch the show?? the fact that an important character from season 1 got less screentime in comparison to a new plot point that doesn't even add anything to the piltover and zaun story is ridiculous. we are not talking about league lore and what is "most important" lore wise. we are talking about arcane, a fvucking character driven plot.
@@crisssstopher Besides what Sevika already did in S2, what do you think was lacking if she had more screen time? The only thing would be negotiating Zaunites to help with the final fight, but that would just be filler. I don't see any need for more Sevika screen time, she had enough.
@@toastee5421maybe she's just hot
So excited for Mel to be in League
Le Blanc: WELL that was fun wasn't it?!
thanks alot, might be my favorite scenes from the show
I know this show was insanely expensive but how is it not worth it for just these Black Rose scenes alone let alone the entire first two seasons?
If I was a billionaire or whatever I would finance a third season just to have my name attached to what will go down as something historic.
"I see your face deceiver"
"Mel joins the black rose"
"Mel fights the black rose" 💀
She did not joined LeBlanck. She just assumed her mother was a bigger danger and decided to wait until Ambessa is defieted.
It is like "You know I will return some day to avenge my brother and my friend" - - "I will be waiting".
rip elora no one talks about her death i was so sad she died :(
@@Ash-lc1bu not dead. She most likely works for the Black Rose and it was a illusion to break/test Mel.
You can see her exchange a quick secretive nod with Amara and her voice actor is a Black Rose spy in a game.
From what I can tell TBR has spies stationed everywhere and at all levels of power and she was also one of them.
After the 2025 S1 trailer was released today, it seems the male voice laid over LeBlanc's is Vladimir's!!
The only subplot where I felt like the writing was failing a bit instead of just being fast paced. Mel having magic powers was foreshadowed but it still feels so disconnected from the rest of the plot, we barely see anyone including Mel react to that fact, all we get is the explanation of why she and Jayce survived the explosion.
The final scene here feels like Marvel writing in a way, its only saved by Ambessa finally being proud of her daughter as she is dying.
@@Azuressunset i always felt like this subplot was not actually meant for this show, but more like a foreshadow for future ones (next series announced for Noxus)
the worst type of criticism is comparing something to something else
Because then they would need another season. Mel's powers are not really the point of the story. They had to be introduced but do it earlier and then you have to write the whole drama about her and her mother, her secrets, what it means she's a weapon and is she going to be forced to use it in the oppression of Zaun and if not then what then with the plot. So instead, they brought her back at the end so there's not much time to accommodate any of the questions and implications because there's a world ending threat literally right in front of you. But then they can use Mel in the future series if they want to and they use the time skip without having to answer all the questions again (how did she grow with her powers, what other people think about it etc)
@@snusslybussly5749why? because its true?
Lore of league is more bigger than the arcane.
Mel gifts are unlike anything we have ever seen in Arcane which is powerful to the end of the darkness like the black rose
Black rose tried to recruit mel yet brought her through hell and killed elora and kino 🤦♀️
Slay Gurl 💅🏻✨️
You forgot Elora’s death 🥺
@@Teemo6544 poor Elora 😭
Indeed, what a poor thing 😭😞😢
I'm confused? Isn't 'black rose' her death scene?
@@krzysztofczajka6752
There’s another scene where Mel sees Elora being ripped to shreds but it got cut
@Teemo6544 where is that?
I feel like the Black Rose arc would have been a season 3 storyline if they decided to do it instead of ending the series. Season 2 should have just focused on Viktor's ascension instead with Warwick and all. Arc 3 was kinda rushed.
@@fawli86 we will most likely see it in the next series they announced which will take place in Noxus
I feel like Minnie Driver’s line should’ve been was, “Clever girl.” But, that’s just my JP fandom talking. When I heard her say that I immediately thought of Muldoon’s death in JP.
5:50 She better be there when they tell the story of Ionia, since her first appearance she caught everyone's attention
The black rose shall rise once more 🌹
Im sorry in my book you can't truly call yourselves the BLACK ROSE unless you have a cool elevator people angst in while you go "DEEPER. GO DEEPER"
I still need full context of this beef between her and Ambessa.
From what I know, Ambessa slept with someone and the child (Mel) inherited powers that the Black Rose need/want as a weapon. The Black Rose knew that it was one of Ambessa's children they were looking for, so they somehow captured Kino (Mel's brother) because they thought it was him. When it turns out he wasn't the child they were after, they gave Ambessa the choice between giving up Mel in exchange for Kino, or they'd kill Kino. Ambessa chose to save Mel, and the Black Rose is going after her since then.
@@Chaseroonie1ok thanks got it. But what is black rose connection to whats happening in piltover? They mentione at 1:00 that they knew what ambessa is trying to do in piltover and they wont allow it. Is this about hextech?
@@adriannaps2798i think she meant she either visits mel, or because as she is portrayed, she wants weapons for her conquest and hextech what was she needed
domain expansion: black rose
*Thorned Black Rose Garden
I still didn’t understand the CAUSE of Ambessa's death. Was it blood loss? Did Black Rose cast some kind of spell on her? Did she drain her life energy? Was she mortally wounded by the chains?
HOW???
It was probably just some spell, you can see smoke leaving her body when after she is killed.
I think the red void is an illusion inside people's heads, they never really leave the physical space they really are. You can see Ambessa in the exactly spot where she was,
For the Noxus guards Mel just started shinning and Ambessa died bc of some red smoke.
So lets just say ancient cult cthonic magic being directly driven into your head is not exactly helping your vitality
I didnt unterstand the point of Mel activating the necklace power to send her mother with Le Blanc only for 5 seconds later get inside that thorns dimension and get her out from there.
she wanted to defeat both and pretended to be both's ally (till a point). The black rose took care of Ambessa and she took care of The black rose, got 2 birds with 1 stone
I think it was to hijack Leblanc’s spell to pierce her illusions and find her true face, but she was too late to save her mother.
So LeBlanc is Arcane Version of Agatha while Mel is Arcane Version of Billy Maximoff
Leblanc should have been the real final boss with viktor killing him stopin him from destroyin the world but just to be her the one who rule it.
Nah, LeBlanc it's too big just to be the villain of Pitover/Zaun arc.
God damn the quality is 💀
Why wouldn't Ambessa introduce Mel to the Black Rose herself? It's definately gain her some favour with the most powerful order in Noxus.
I think the point was to keep Mel as far away from the black rose as humanely possible.
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I think Mel knowing would make her more intrigued to know more about them and have her snooping like Kino did. Eventually ending with her getting snatched up like they did in the show. Since Mel was the child they were looking for, Ambessa wanted to keep her hidden.
8:36 soundtrack?
Arcane - Quite a thorn -> ruclips.net/video/I-NTU5rZ3Dk/видео.htmlsi=nmbjnbLNTn15znER
@ScreenSprints thx
Le Blanc ❤❤❤❤
Was this temporally upscaled?
I need a LeBlanc ASU ❤❤
There are leaks that she's receiving a VGU soon (as in next season)
She will probably get it
wow the fps interpolation truly makes the amara scene looks like shit, rictus stabs his spear into the grown with all the force of a used tissue
@@thartmann9284 you really hate the effect don’t you? 😆 sowy
@@ScreenSprints well yeah, the effect makes one of the most beautiful animated shows ever put to screen look sloppy, boring and unimpactful. why wouldn't you hate that? i don't think it's unjustified outrage- i would hope you don't think the same.
the animators never intended for this show to run at this framerate. the animations, as a result, do not look good at this framerate. a shot (like rictus' spear thrust) designed to have maximum cinematic impact at 24 fps will inevitably look like dogshit at 45, 60, whatever this was "upscaled" to. it doesn't look like animation because the choice of FPS the animators made was disrespected- it doesn't look accurate to life either, because animated characters aren't supposed to be subjected to motion smoothing. it just looks like mush.
i'm not heartbroken that you've uploaded the scene this way, as your sarcastic "XD sowy" would imply. i just find it incredibly disappointing. i hope people see this comment and remember that arcane is supposed to look better than this.
@@thartmann9284 you know it's funny when you speak with such confidence as you somehow hold the absolute truth in taste for movies or what people like or dislike - for example, i uploaded other clips on the original fps and people complained about the lack of previous quality (60fps). and the ones i uploaded in 60fps are currently doing best on the channel lol
and i wasn't sarcastic, i meant it as in "i understand you hate it, sowy, nothing i can do now"
and btw, most of the studios choose 24fps not as an 'artistic touch', but because that's the industry standard for broadcast television
oh, and btw 2.0: if you're mad now, go check my last short for Blue Eye Samurai 😂
@@ScreenSprints to be clear, i'm fully aware i'm not the arbiter of absolute truth here. people are entitled to their personal taste- i speak with confidence because i am an animator, a good few years of studying animation makes you really keen on noticing when something doesn't feel right, but you're right that it doesn't make me objectively correct. if your viewers want it for some reason more power to you and them. i just can't get behind watching arcane in a way other than it was originally animated. if people want to watch an "upscaled" version that severely muddies most of the nuance and emphasis this show's animation has to offer, then by all means. i just think it looks fundamentally wrong.
and for what it's worth i truly don't think i'm frustrated with you personally, i'm just exhausted with trying to find clips for stuff like spiderverse and arcane and not being able to find the versions as they were originally animated because every channel and it's mother uploads the "upscales." it's not so much that i'm mad that the modified videos exist, just that they keep making the algorithm choke out any other version of the scene. it's not impossible to find the original scenes but it's infinitely harder than it should be 90% of the time.
@ i can understand that - if you need any particular scene unaltered, let me know and i’ll upload it for you (as long as it’s not like ‘every jinx scene in arcane’ 😆)
Amara is kinda bad ngl
What if that wasn't Leblanc but it was whoever the guille is
that's leblanc she's in the starring of all the champions and other side characters in arcane try to search in league of legends official page she's there😂
Black Rose is not Leblanc.
I think LB rose to power after Black Rose's downfall.
Black Rose is most certainly Leblanc + followers, that faceless witch uses Leblanc’s signature powers of illusion, deception and chains (one of her in game abilities).
@@bloovelvet maybe it's another clone gone rogue!
@@bloovelvet This is correct. I was convinced that the faceless witch is her when Mel called her "Deceiver," which is literally her champion title.
Leblanc is everyone.
The Black Rose is a secret organization founded by her.