Same results as the RAV4 hybrid and the Prius. Toyota needs to reevaluate their rear electric motor. It just doesn’t seem able to transfer power to the wheel with traction.
It can't, it is just a tiny motor that will engage when the front wheels slip just to keep the car in lane. Lexus doesn't intent any off road use for this car and certainly is not advertised as such
I got a chance to test it in the snow and ice two days ago. It did a pretty good job from stop light to stop light and I didn't feel any wheel spin (like a front wheel drive). All the other FWD vehicles had a hard time taking off the light but the lexus did really well. Even did really well at a light in an uphill. No wheel spin, just picked up and went. Was this a defective vehicle they tested?
I was wondering the same thing. I just saw this same series of test done on Car Caine and this UX 250 did perfectly fine in all but one test. So I’m really confused about what happened in this test. I’ve also seen another video where this was driven in deep snow and did totally fine. This baffles me.
That's the weird thing. Toyota has a workable E AWD system in the the 5th gen rav4 hybirds and prime. I have no clue why they didn't just slap that system in the UX.
You need to get reps from Toyota in a video call to explain this crap. First it was the AWD-e Prius, now this? I think the rear motor has plenty of power to push the car off the rollers, it just isn't being told to put power down, instead it is being told to do nothing while the front wheels spin all day long.
I just watched the same slip test on Car Caine. The UX 250 did perfectly fine on all tests but one, so I’m not sure what’s happening here in your test. You might want to look at their video.
@@mcbalzer6121 I’m not a big believer in these tests. For some reason I’m inclined to think the car is smarter than we are, or these roller tests. I recently saw one of these plowing through snow just fine and it really contradicts what we see here in this video.
Carcaine's rollers have big resistance, they do not spin freely. Yaris Cross with the same awd system as UX failed the same way on @4x4.tests.on.rollers.
ruclips.net/video/GLZCWFvOFOU/видео.html Odd that a similar roller test on the same trim of UX250h (albeit some kind of EU model) saw it jump off front only rollers in ~2 seconds, rather handily. I wonder if the programming is different for USDM models? That or the "foot to the floor" methodology is what the Toyota/Lexus TCS disagrees with. I had a similar experience in a 2016 2WD Tacoma that was stuck on a snowbank. Mash your foot to the floor and it would pull the throttle lower and lower to where it was basically idling, "feather it" and it eventually jumped off.
I'm curious what other manufacturers philosophy is on this. I see VW systems generally behave more agressively in these tests. Will they give the pilot a "get out of jail" switch and tell the insurer?
I really want to see the slip test be performed on the new Subaru AWD systems with the different Terrain options selects to see how each mode distributes power (Being I have a 17 Forester XT with x-mode, and no terrain options). Same with other company AWD systems that claim the modes change the behavior. Also amazed how poorly the Lexus performed. I would just consider that FWD if the rear wheels can't push it off the rollers.
Thank you for improving your rollers by adding more space between rollers. And yes, the AWD system on Lexus vehicles was always bad, except the large SUVs where you can manually control locking differentials.
When will Lexus finally realize that this setup sucks? I had a 400H and although it was “AWD” it was essentially a front wheel drive vehicle. I had it outfitted with dedicated winter tires and ended up selling it because it was useless in winter. That was over 10yrs ago, how have they not figured this out yet? I’d buy another one if they ever figure out to make the rear drive actually useful.
Tommy said that it feels like there’s a lot of torque backing up. I wonder if it would pass the one, rear wheel test had he backed up instead of going forward.
Lexus and Toyota hybrid SUV's have so much potential but yet they suck so hard. Either the electric motors are too weak or the software is bad. But I think it's both. Kind of sad. I even considered rx400h some years go but the awd system is just bad. Yet the electric motors could easily give you locking rear and center diff on press of a button. It just software.
Move over Ford...Lexus now has TFL on their "list" as well...but seriously great job Tommy! The 2020 Lexus UX 250h seems to have a bit of a "fake" AWD. It should have had no problem with that simple test...at all.
Yea Toyota need to put a little more efforts in to that E-awd system for their rear wheel drive electric motor, the RAV4-HV and RAV4-PHV will do much better as I also seer these two model of the RAV4 climb a rocky off-road hill.
strange results. Here some other videos and everything seems ok: ruclips.net/video/4veOCW5IrW4/видео.html also rollers: ruclips.net/video/GLZCWFvOFOU/видео.html
What we have learned is: This particular vehicle is FWD. Useless rear components claiming it is AWD. In short, don't let them make you pay for an AWD vehicle when clearly it is only FWD. I like Lexus, but clearly this thing is crap. Thanks Tommy. Def. want you to do this test on any and all AWD vehicles you get your hands on. We need to know the truth.
did you contact Lexus / Toyota to discuss this horrid result, I'm glad I watched your video we are looking at one and man, I'm out that is disappointing especially at the price point.
Same, i really had my mind set on this vehicle but AWD is a MUST for the snowy and icy backroads I drive on😪 gotta look somewhere else ig, really loved the size and look of this one too🙃
@@rod22lt True for 2020. UX was selling well as hybrid solution. Marketing should have kept the AWD as a hidden feature. Great way to get customer to buy another one.
It’s not just Lexus it’s all Toyota hybrid systems useless as AWD there rear electric motors need more HP, big disappointment. Also why on some vehicles does the awd system turn off above a certain mph does snow and ice not exist above 25 MPH.
In addition to all the comments about how useless the AWD is in the Lexus, the diagonal 2 wheel test shows how bad the tire compound is. The spinning front tire on pavement shows what a hard (economy?) compound tread is fitted. Even though the pavement was damp, still poor!!!
I love Toyota and Lexus, having said that, this is the most useless AWD system made. My wifes RAV 4 is WAY WAY better and never mind my Tacoma and now Tundra with 4WD. Toyota should be embarrased.
A lot of money for a very inferior system. Not a fan of the electric rear wheels like in the Toyota Rav 4 either. Weak system. That wouldn't help you in the snow either.
If the reaction time from front wheel slippage to rear wheel traction is so substantial then whats the point. Manufacturers are slapping AWD drive on anything theses days and hoping people will buy their products. shameful.
It's not a mixed results,it is useless as a supposed all wheel drive,when you can't get the back wheels to spin what so ever how is that AWD
It's front wheel drive with a bit of rear wheel assist
It's a shame that the Lexus AWD system performed so poorly
Nathan Kestin I agree. Wouldn't have thought this awd system was so anemic
Same results as the RAV4 hybrid and the Prius. Toyota needs to reevaluate their rear electric motor. It just doesn’t seem able to transfer power to the wheel with traction.
I like Honda’s AWD approach to my Ridgeline, it starts off in simulated 4x4 and turns off the rear once you hit 18MPH so you always have traction.
I’d love to see the trailboss Auto setting done for the slip test to see how well that works
Shame on Lexus...no good AWD, no space inside....what a waste of money$$
How could it possibly send 80% of power to the back when it’s just a small electric motor that’s not connected to the engine?
It can't. The motor is only 7HP, so it obviously can't be used for even such a small "climb", and I have no idea where his "80%" number comes from.
It can't, it is just a tiny motor that will engage when the front wheels slip just to keep the car in lane. Lexus doesn't intent any off road use for this car and certainly is not advertised as such
I got a chance to test it in the snow and ice two days ago. It did a pretty good job from stop light to stop light and I didn't feel any wheel spin (like a front wheel drive). All the other FWD vehicles had a hard time taking off the light but the lexus did really well. Even did really well at a light in an uphill. No wheel spin, just picked up and went. Was this a defective vehicle they tested?
No, its just that the effect is very small compared to a real 4WD.
I was wondering the same thing. I just saw this same series of test done on Car Caine and this UX 250 did perfectly fine in all but one test. So I’m really confused about what happened in this test. I’ve also seen another video where this was driven in deep snow and did totally fine. This baffles me.
Sooooo is AWD all marketing?? hmm
Isn't this car a corolla with Lexus badge?
It’s actually a chr
Toyota needs to revamp their 'awd' system, very weak.
That's the weird thing. Toyota has a workable E AWD system in the the 5th gen rav4 hybirds and prime. I have no clue why they didn't just slap that system in the UX.
Some cars have horse power and some need human power
You need to get reps from Toyota in a video call to explain this crap. First it was the AWD-e Prius, now this? I think the rear motor has plenty of power to push the car off the rollers, it just isn't being told to put power down, instead it is being told to do nothing while the front wheels spin all day long.
The 3 wheel slip test result with the 1 front wheel is actually really impressive!
The noise coming from that electric motor is very annoying tho...
Paying all that money just to get stuck in the snow/mud...not on my list that's for sure.
I just watched the same slip test on Car Caine. The UX 250 did perfectly fine on all tests but one, so I’m not sure what’s happening here in your test. You might want to look at their video.
It seems that TFL put 2WD version of UX250h to the test... 😉
@@mcbalzer6121 I’m not a big believer in these tests. For some reason I’m inclined to think the car is smarter than we are, or these roller tests. I recently saw one of these plowing through snow just fine and it really contradicts what we see here in this video.
Carcaine's rollers have big resistance, they do not spin freely. Yaris Cross with the same awd system as UX failed the same way on @4x4.tests.on.rollers.
That's surprising....It did struggle a lil bit...don't think iv seen a car have that much trouble on slip test...Thanks Tommy☺️
ruclips.net/video/GLZCWFvOFOU/видео.html Odd that a similar roller test on the same trim of UX250h (albeit some kind of EU model) saw it jump off front only rollers in ~2 seconds, rather handily. I wonder if the programming is different for USDM models? That or the "foot to the floor" methodology is what the Toyota/Lexus TCS disagrees with. I had a similar experience in a 2016 2WD Tacoma that was stuck on a snowbank. Mash your foot to the floor and it would pull the throttle lower and lower to where it was basically idling, "feather it" and it eventually jumped off.
6:45 the front roller is almost burned !!!! XD
Rip bearing
I'm curious what other manufacturers philosophy is on this. I see VW systems generally behave more agressively in these tests. Will they give the pilot a "get out of jail" switch and tell the insurer?
That thing is absolutely hideous
I really want to see the slip test be performed on the new Subaru AWD systems with the different Terrain options selects to see how each mode distributes power (Being I have a 17 Forester XT with x-mode, and no terrain options). Same with other company AWD systems that claim the modes change the behavior. Also amazed how poorly the Lexus performed. I would just consider that FWD if the rear wheels can't push it off the rollers.
False advertising, Lexus!
Thank you for improving your rollers by adding more space between rollers. And yes, the AWD system on Lexus vehicles was always bad, except the large SUVs where you can manually control locking differentials.
Thumbs up for TFL , but Thumbs down !!!
I would be curious to see how some awd cars do on this test. One that comes to mind is the most recent generation Taurus sho.
When will Lexus finally realize that this setup sucks? I had a 400H and although it was “AWD” it was essentially a front wheel drive vehicle. I had it outfitted with dedicated winter tires and ended up selling it because it was useless in winter. That was over 10yrs ago, how have they not figured this out yet? I’d buy another one if they ever figure out to make the rear drive actually useful.
I drive a corolla fwd in winter and i have no problem? Idk why youre whining
Tommy said that it feels like there’s a lot of torque backing up. I wonder if it would pass the one, rear wheel test had he backed up instead of going forward.
Love this test!! Wish you would/could do this in a crostrek.
Lexus and Toyota hybrid SUV's have so much potential but yet they suck so hard. Either the electric motors are too weak or the software is bad. But I think it's both. Kind of sad. I even considered rx400h some years go but the awd system is just bad. Yet the electric motors could easily give you locking rear and center diff on press of a button. It just software.
Move over Ford...Lexus now has TFL on their "list" as well...but seriously great job Tommy! The 2020 Lexus UX 250h seems to have a bit of a "fake" AWD. It should have had no problem with that simple test...at all.
Awesome and fun video today Tommy 🙂. In your honest opinion, which vehicle or brand has the best all wheel drive system in the business?
Maybe sport mode would put more electric power to the rear?
no, the winter snow mode
"that's all it took, a little help of a friend" ????? the rear motors did NOTHING>
Yea Toyota need to put a little more efforts in to that E-awd system for their rear wheel drive electric motor, the RAV4-HV and RAV4-PHV will do much better as I also seer these two model of the RAV4 climb a rocky off-road hill.
Could you guys do the slip test with the tough T? Showing what it does with the normal gearing then low rage then with the lockers on one by one.
strange results. Here some other videos and everything seems ok:
ruclips.net/video/4veOCW5IrW4/видео.html
also rollers:
ruclips.net/video/GLZCWFvOFOU/видео.html
Need more slip test
Do the F250, Trail Boss!
Well this proves that owning a Lexus is just a status symbol
This car is not for off-road. Please, UX stand for urban cross, i love my ux.
Dude you need to turn the ev only to get it out when front wheel are stuck
I’m guessing it’s the same awd system as the new Prius. Only 15hp going to the rear is garbage.
15hp in a farm tractor can rip out tree stumps (it's torque that counts)
Can't wait to see the Bronco sport on this slip test!
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Lexus one off the beste Small SUV
Encore GX is going to run rings around Lexus sUX in sales....for a reason!
So... this guy gets the vehicle stuck on purpose and then is surprised it’s stuck #unsubscribe
What we have learned is: This particular vehicle is FWD. Useless rear components claiming it is AWD. In short, don't let them make you pay for an AWD vehicle when clearly it is only FWD. I like Lexus, but clearly this thing is crap. Thanks Tommy. Def. want you to do this test on any and all AWD vehicles you get your hands on. We need to know the truth.
The AWD system is crap* the UX in general is a fantastic vehicle.
Lexus, oh Lexus. What. Is. This?
did you contact Lexus / Toyota to discuss this horrid result, I'm glad I watched your video we are looking at one and man, I'm out that is disappointing especially at the price point.
Same, i really had my mind set on this vehicle but AWD is a MUST for the snowy and icy backroads I drive on😪 gotta look somewhere else ig, really loved the size and look of this one too🙃
Let's do trucks and suvs see which manufacturer has brake lock traction aids
Chevy beating Lexus? Tomorrow someone in Japan will honorably commit sepuku.
So based on 7.57 min video and conclusion? Nexttttttt
Well at least we know it’s still reliable lol
Most Lexus 250h owners are dumb-founded that their UX is AWD. They think it's jsut an Hybrid. Lexus doesn't market it as an AWD solution.
They absolutely highlight and market it as offering awd here in Canada.
@@rod22lt True for 2020. UX was selling well as hybrid solution. Marketing should have kept the AWD as a hidden feature. Great way to get customer to buy another one.
It’s not just Lexus it’s all Toyota hybrid systems useless as AWD there rear electric motors need more HP, big disappointment. Also why on some vehicles does the awd system turn off above a certain mph does snow and ice not exist above 25 MPH.
In addition to all the comments about how useless the AWD is in the Lexus, the diagonal 2 wheel test shows how bad the tire compound is. The spinning front tire on pavement shows what a hard (economy?) compound tread is fitted. Even though the pavement was damp, still poor!!!
Junk
I love Toyota and Lexus, having said that, this is the most useless AWD system made. My wifes RAV 4 is WAY WAY better and never mind my Tacoma and now Tundra with 4WD. Toyota should be embarrased.
All AWD systems have a rear mounted differential and drive shaft which sends power to it. This a FWD car, pure and simple. False advertisement.👎
SHAME ON LEXUS
It should be either a car or a proper 4x4.You aint catching me buying this "crossover crap"!
How about reverse?
Rev up your Lexus AWD hybrid.
A lot of money for a very inferior system. Not a fan of the electric rear wheels like in the Toyota Rav 4 either. Weak system. That wouldn't help you in the snow either.
I seriously considered buying this until now. That was pathetic. Shame on Lexus.
for the price a PoS
I was wondering what was wrong with my car I had problems in ice last year I thought it was the tires. I’m probably gonna trade it in! Piece of C&@$
If the reaction time from front wheel slippage to rear wheel traction is so substantial then whats the point. Manufacturers are slapping AWD drive on anything theses days and hoping people will buy their products. shameful.
Your test is flawed. Testing from stationary position?
Can I test my Subaru sti on them😂 it’s a 2017 model
Palisade or Telluride
Palisade
Telluride all day. Way better looking.
It’s a shame Lexus sells this as an AWD. NOPE.
What a expensive Toyota/Lexus fails? Not sure the Lexus would perform well on a dew covered road😂🤣😂
Will be totally useless in the winter
how can manufacturer's call these vehicles AWDs!! such shitty results
I HAVE HONDA VEZEL 2016 MODEL 2WD CAR.
What a joke of an awd system. Common Toyota, you can do much better
Tommy , do you ever drive average vehicles
LOL! terrible .. well I will take my mazda cx-30 AWD any day over that lexus in snow storm conditions.
I am disappointed of Lexus.
Crapy Toyota products.
Toyota is a FAIL at AWD
what a joke!!!!
Big blow😂
I was waiting for Tesla crash 2.0!?!
Shame on Lexus for this epic fail!
It's a hybrid, ofc awd will be poor
1st!