00:00 - The falcon attacking the hawk 00:03 - Falcon says hello to pigeons 00:16 - The hawk thought it is a good idea to attack my pigeons; the falcon didn’t think so and kicked it, protecting my (his) pigeons 00:49 - The falcon accelerates more determined to kick some hawk a** 01:10 - After pushing the hawk away in the forest the falcon leaves, ignoring my pigeons 02:20 - Friendly wildlife, an old crow from my team of avian guardians
Carnivore rivalry nicely filmed. BOPs dislike eachother just like lions, leopards, hyenas, wilddogs, cheetahs etc. dislike each other since they eat the same thing and snatch eachother's meal whenever they get a chance. Here also falcon chases away tawny eagles and sometimes they attack falcon back. When kite catches a pigeon here all others run after it to grab a bite.
Thanks. It is a bit too shaky because I was too enthusiastic being able to film that fight scene and it also happened when I wasn't ready and wasn't expecting it.
I have to admit I wasn't expecting this... I guess they're just fighting for territory and later pray. Great video! As you well know, you got me into this and now I'm letting my birds out every time I can, hoping for attacks :d
Hi Blanc. Totally agree, I'd rather have 10 falcon attacks instead of a hawk attack. The ambush it does at the loft is very stressful and can hurt good pigeons that are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@@Pigeonmaniacom Could not agree more. It reminds me of what you said in another video: the combination of falcon attack and hawk ambush at loft is the worst. I lost one bird like that: he was chased by a falcon and outran the falcon. But he landed in a tree right beside the loft and a hawk took him from behind. So sad! To be honest, falcon chasing pigeons is a "fair" game, but hawks are cowards and opportunistic. Don't get me wrong, I do love my birds and hate losing any of them. Anyway, I enjoy very much your videos. Please keep up the good work! - Lawrence from NJ, USA.
@@blancloft Thank you, Lawrence. Your channel looks interesting, subscribed. My worst day ever (only happened once, hope to never see that again in my life): the falcons pair attacking in the sky and 3 hawks ambushing around the loft. A pigeon escaped a falcon and dropped in a tree behind the loft. A hawk went right after it in the tree but the pigeon was smart enough to get out of the tree on the opposite part... and then the second hawk grabbed it. Such a sad, unfair and frustrating scene.
Hi Akis, you are right: competition for food. I said it more like a joke or described what occasionally happens: probably the falcon already had dinner but it "marks" its territory.
First, wish you Happy New Year, health and all the best! Second, yeah, nice video, indeed...but it could have been better whether the hawk would have attacked the falcon, because up there, the falcon is the real danger, not the hawk...
Happy New Year, George! I'd prefer 10 falcon attacks instead of a hawk attack. The hawk is very destructive around the loft with its ambush. But I also saw what you mention... many years ago, a falcon caught a pigeon from a fancier and was eating on the top of a hill. A hawk female attacked it and took the prey.
@@Pigeonmaniacom at your position, surrounded by trees and other obstacles around the loft, I agree: hawk's ambushes are deadliest but in open field they are not, while the falcons succeed in 1 of 5 attacks anywhere in the sky. That's why I said what I said but in your specific area, yes, you're right.
@@George.T. Yup. For example in a place like the loft of Vali Tulbita, on a high building, there are zero chances for the hawk if the pigeons are healthy and fit. Regarding the falcon I don't know where the 1/5 stats are from but they are wrong. Or they could be true on regular pigeons, I don't know. But for fit pigeons prepared and selected for years for this and exposed almost daily to many falcon attacks, they are far from true. I posted many examples on the channel. There is an interesting aspect I noticed after all these years. The more attacks they get, the more relaxed they become and handle them better. You know I posted some "falcon race arrivals" by the end of autumn, when the pigeons were allover the place after the falcon attack. Now, "hundreds of attacks later", they keep the flock tight or rebuild it quickly and also continue to fly as a flock long after the falcon is gone failing at 10+ attacks. Last time I think they kept flying for about 30 minutes after the falcon left. But the things get really ugly when both the hawk and falcon attack at once.
@@Pigeonmaniacom Vali is a friend of mine and I know well enough his loft on the block. You talk about fit pigeons like yours but believe me, your pigeons are an exxeption, a happy one, because 99% of fanciers prefer to close up all their pigeons over the winter, in fact more than 5-6 months a year and these pigeons lose the fight with falcons more often than yours. I know you said that you splited pigeons in two flocks, some being closed over the winter and the others free, and I'm pretty sure that closed pigeons become victims more often even they are genetical related each other. So, your free pigeons are fit like you said but this is exception that makes rule stronger and the rule is: falcon vs pigeon = 9/10 falcon wins. And one more I've been observed in time: the flock is best defense for pigeon, otherwise in fight 1 to 1, pigeon's chances are almost none, unfortunatelly. But you and your free pigeons continue to break the rule and this is exceptionel... 👍😇
@@George.T. Definitely, this is why I mentioned "regular" pigeons. Those pigeons locked for 6 months have no chance in the first days after liberation, no matter how good they are. And it is normal. Moreover, I would include here in the "regular" category even the pigeons during races because a very important factor is body weight (my winter birds are as light as the feral ones). You have to send pigeons pretty full to some races especially the marathon ones so they have fat reserves to travel those big distances. Also what I noticed: short/middle distance pigeons are a lot more affected by birds of prey than marathon pigeons (I had both types over the years). And it makes sense. Even in the marathon ones, there are some lines better than others at attacks. Unfortunately the best ones for hawk/falcon survival aren't the best ones for the top races results... at least for me, the best performers weren't very small and light. They won't score in the top of the race but they could work for the categories of repeated prizes over 2-3 years (I loved the 5 years expo category but unfortunately they canceled it).
Hi Gon. It depends on year, in the worst years I think there were 30+ losses in autumn and winter. Last year I lost 26 pigeons until the 1st of January. This year I only lost 8 until now, it has been the easiest winter ever but also the pigeons were the most healthy ever.
00:00 - The falcon attacking the hawk
00:03 - Falcon says hello to pigeons
00:16 - The hawk thought it is a good idea to attack my pigeons; the falcon didn’t think so and kicked it, protecting my (his) pigeons
00:49 - The falcon accelerates more determined to kick some hawk a**
01:10 - After pushing the hawk away in the forest the falcon leaves, ignoring my pigeons
02:20 - Friendly wildlife, an old crow from my team of avian guardians
Carnivore rivalry nicely filmed. BOPs dislike eachother just like lions, leopards, hyenas, wilddogs, cheetahs etc. dislike each other since they eat the same thing and snatch eachother's meal whenever they get a chance. Here also falcon chases away tawny eagles and sometimes they attack falcon back. When kite catches a pigeon here all others run after it to grab a bite.
andrei you re the best....this is a stunning video as always 🔝🔝🔝🙌🙌🙌🙌
Thanks. It is a bit too shaky because I was too enthusiastic being able to film that fight scene and it also happened when I wasn't ready and wasn't expecting it.
What a lucky man you are to have such a beautiful view of nature & mountains
I have to admit I wasn't expecting this... I guess they're just fighting for territory and later pray. Great video! As you well know, you got me into this and now I'm letting my birds out every time I can, hoping for attacks :d
🤣Glad to know that. And there are a few more guys that got into this "winter sport". 🤗 We should make a club.
This is your destiny, you deserve to deal with these predators. Good luck and all the love to you from the land of revolutionaries (Algeria)💖
You got everything😁: a hawk, a falcon and a crow in the tree👍. If I were to choose, I'd prefer falcons since hawks are kind of ambushers...
Hi Blanc. Totally agree, I'd rather have 10 falcon attacks instead of a hawk attack. The ambush it does at the loft is very stressful and can hurt good pigeons that are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@@Pigeonmaniacom Could not agree more. It reminds me of what you said in another video: the combination of falcon attack and hawk ambush at loft is the worst. I lost one bird like that: he was chased by a falcon and outran the falcon. But he landed in a tree right beside the loft and a hawk took him from behind. So sad! To be honest, falcon chasing pigeons is a "fair" game, but hawks are cowards and opportunistic. Don't get me wrong, I do love my birds and hate losing any of them. Anyway, I enjoy very much your videos. Please keep up the good work! - Lawrence from NJ, USA.
@@blancloft Thank you, Lawrence. Your channel looks interesting, subscribed. My worst day ever (only happened once, hope to never see that again in my life): the falcons pair attacking in the sky and 3 hawks ambushing around the loft. A pigeon escaped a falcon and dropped in a tree behind the loft. A hawk went right after it in the tree but the pigeon was smart enough to get out of the tree on the opposite part... and then the second hawk grabbed it. Such a sad, unfair and frustrating scene.
Hello , nice video, living with peregrines and gawshawks as a pigeon fancier me too, i think it is not protection but competition for food .
Hi Akis, you are right: competition for food. I said it more like a joke or described what occasionally happens: probably the falcon already had dinner but it "marks" its territory.
First, wish you Happy New Year, health and all the best!
Second, yeah, nice video, indeed...but it could have been better whether the hawk would have attacked the falcon, because up there, the falcon is the real danger, not the hawk...
Happy New Year, George! I'd prefer 10 falcon attacks instead of a hawk attack. The hawk is very destructive around the loft with its ambush. But I also saw what you mention... many years ago, a falcon caught a pigeon from a fancier and was eating on the top of a hill. A hawk female attacked it and took the prey.
@@Pigeonmaniacom at your position, surrounded by trees and other obstacles around the loft, I agree: hawk's ambushes are deadliest but in open field they are not, while the falcons succeed in 1 of 5 attacks anywhere in the sky. That's why I said what I said but in your specific area, yes, you're right.
@@George.T. Yup. For example in a place like the loft of Vali Tulbita, on a high building, there are zero chances for the hawk if the pigeons are healthy and fit. Regarding the falcon I don't know where the 1/5 stats are from but they are wrong. Or they could be true on regular pigeons, I don't know. But for fit pigeons prepared and selected for years for this and exposed almost daily to many falcon attacks, they are far from true. I posted many examples on the channel. There is an interesting aspect I noticed after all these years. The more attacks they get, the more relaxed they become and handle them better. You know I posted some "falcon race arrivals" by the end of autumn, when the pigeons were allover the place after the falcon attack. Now, "hundreds of attacks later", they keep the flock tight or rebuild it quickly and also continue to fly as a flock long after the falcon is gone failing at 10+ attacks. Last time I think they kept flying for about 30 minutes after the falcon left. But the things get really ugly when both the hawk and falcon attack at once.
@@Pigeonmaniacom
Vali is a friend of mine and I know well enough his loft on the block. You talk about fit pigeons like yours but believe me, your pigeons are an exxeption, a happy one, because 99% of fanciers prefer to close up all their pigeons over the winter, in fact more than 5-6 months a year and these pigeons lose the fight with falcons more often than yours.
I know you said that you splited pigeons in two flocks, some being closed over the winter and the others free, and I'm pretty sure that closed pigeons become victims more often even they are genetical related each other.
So, your free pigeons are fit like you said but this is exception that makes rule stronger and the rule is: falcon vs pigeon = 9/10 falcon wins.
And one more I've been observed in time: the flock is best defense for pigeon, otherwise in fight 1 to 1, pigeon's chances are almost none, unfortunatelly.
But you and your free pigeons continue to break the rule and this is exceptionel... 👍😇
@@George.T. Definitely, this is why I mentioned "regular" pigeons. Those pigeons locked for 6 months have no chance in the first days after liberation, no matter how good they are. And it is normal. Moreover, I would include here in the "regular" category even the pigeons during races because a very important factor is body weight (my winter birds are as light as the feral ones). You have to send pigeons pretty full to some races especially the marathon ones so they have fat reserves to travel those big distances. Also what I noticed: short/middle distance pigeons are a lot more affected by birds of prey than marathon pigeons (I had both types over the years). And it makes sense. Even in the marathon ones, there are some lines better than others at attacks. Unfortunately the best ones for hawk/falcon survival aren't the best ones for the top races results... at least for me, the best performers weren't very small and light. They won't score in the top of the race but they could work for the categories of repeated prizes over 2-3 years (I loved the 5 years expo category but unfortunately they canceled it).
Wow he was saying they are all mine back off :)
A great footage. .. in a great moment ❤️
If they don't get your pigeons, then they start chasing and eating each other 😂😂😂
🤣 I wish! A hawk less would be great! I could live with the falcon pair and trade a few birds if they keep the hawks away.
GOOD!
Să vadă și uliul cum se simte când ești urmărit. Măcar agasat.
استمر في التنزيل ❤️ thanks
He or she the falcon that is is just being territorial,,,,,. ,,, The falcon will be back
how many Pigeones do you lost in one Saison? greetings from Switzerland.
Hi Gon. It depends on year, in the worst years I think there were 30+ losses in autumn and winter. Last year I lost 26 pigeons until the 1st of January. This year I only lost 8 until now, it has been the easiest winter ever but also the pigeons were the most healthy ever.
😊 interesant !
Dinner time turned into a fight for territory unexpectedly.
Not sure if your pigeons were relieved by happiness or disappointment. 😆
🤣
It's a thug-life when you're a pigeon.
i like this your video but you not regula video upload please bro regular video upload 😒😒😭😭
goshawk?
Yes, goshawk.
🕊️💥💥
He wants to keep the territory for himself an is going to get his pidgeon later.
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