I want to thank Vander Graff (as they are known on discord, also known as u/GuessWhat_ItsAnxiety on Reddit) for drawing the thumbnail, they did a great job of showing the most terrifying character in all of fiction. Also, first thumbnail on this channel not done by me. Very nice. I had to cut a LOT from the original stream, and there is a whole second stream which I did after which is fully untapped. I strongly recommend checking them out if this video didn't convince you of how chaotic things got. Its good fun, links in the description. Thanks for your time.
"I am become hacked, destroyer of lawns." There is a writer on their team who has given up and just started shitposting, because who wouldn't after seeing the level design?
We talk about why Crazy Dave would let Mo stick around, but don't forget this game also confirms he has the plants train from infancy for war and death.
@@MagisterLive12I mean, the alternative is a dead world with undead corpses still walking so yeah, as some guy said you gotta do what you gotta do lol, it’s technically the apocalypse and in the apocalypse you can’t always be the purest of the pure
@@funnypeashootercreature I'm of two minds about the artstyle. On one hand, I really like how it looks. On the other, I don't think it fits at all for a PvZ game, but it particularly looks awful when you add *animation* to it
@@marisabitch5578 Yeah, it's just that the animation style doesn't match the artstyle. The art has a very cartoonish look to it, so I'd expect the animation to be very quick with smear-frames and full-stops and such (Or whatever that kind of technique is called, but hopefully you catch my drift.) In the actual game, all the animations just look far too smooth to match the artstyle to me
To be fair, other PvZ games already did that, and 3 is mostly tame in comparison to the other PvZ games (for instance, in GW2, one of the missions from Kernel Corn is to plant a literal nuke in front of your neighbors (the zombies) and it blew up most of North America).
i mean the dialog is really bad, the story is mid, the characters are kinda funny but forgettable, and the art looks really fuckin good but is clearly rushed in some aspects
@@hrtzz_undrskorThe characters only are forgetable if you haven't read the comics, Patrice and Tugboat are from the comics. Mo is probably the only exception since he's the only original character from what I've seen
@@SypitzBeen saying this for a while. Why would amy regular pvz player know who these characters are suppose to be? Stubbins in bfn is never shown so the average non comic reader has no idea who he is lr why zomboss cares so much about him.
So idk if you know this but there is a PVZ comic, which I read when I was younger, and Patrice and Tugboat are from that comic, and penny is in that comic so I doubt it. But who knows maybe they will completely disregard that comic.
I have a feeling that it actually is a prequel since Patrice never returns and there is also a very old pvz animation ruclips.net/video/_J0DCKCPn9M/видео.htmlsi=yAbp9Ha89D40wT0X Couldn't find the original this is the closest (don't know if it is official so maybe) But hey that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
It is downright impressive how PopCap managed to somehow take all the worst aspects of both PvZ 1 (The non-replayable levels and lack of special zombie gimmick variety) and PvZ 2 (Hyper-fast pacing, microtransactions, and absurdly-unfair difficulty spikes that encourage buying microtransactions) and decided to make a fusion of all those flaws their third game Heck, somehow even the *good* things they squeezed in there don't work in the game's favor half the time. Personally, I loved the PvZ 1 25-sun meta because it encouraged slower gameplay and building up a decent defense. PvZ 3's 1-sun meta is pretty much the 25-sun meta in a trenchcoat, but you wouldn't think it because the gameplay is somehow FASTER than 2 with even LESS time to plan out your defense. And Locked and Loaded stages I thought were fun and all in 2 when they were sparse, but even then, there were worlds where they got annoying to me fast. Making those levels the entirety of your game honestly just completely loses me. I know what they were trying to do. But I don't like what they were trying to do whatsoever
Yeah the lower sun value with the slower pace of pvz 1 defenses doesnt work with how fast 3 just tosses the level at you as seen by the massive amount of zombies just overwhelming the rather mediocre defenses that were set up by that time.
Adding that the zombie generation is specially weird in this game... I mean, how many times has happened that zombies didn't appeared on a lane for the entire level, keeping spawning in the same lane? Idk if they tried to do the zombie generation algorythm from scratch, or they screwed It something Up that much that It ended Up like this.
And functionally, how are pole vaulter, ladder and dolphin rider different? Also balloon does nothing but take up 1 plant slot and the same with catapult.
The best thing I can say about this game is that it's a bit better than Homescape, the game it copied. The worse thing I can say about this game is that it's a bit better than Homescape, the game it copied.
8:56 so, I think I know what happened... they had one person writing the story, and a different person designing the level. And they did not care enough to have those 2 guys talk to each other
Nope. The mechanics of how the game works is that story isn't tied to levels. They know where you aren't past, but they don't know what you have already passed. If you clear 60 levels, but haven't gotten to that story beat, you wouldn't know why Mo is gone.
@bepis_lord7883 i do game design. I didn't say they weren't. But that's the explanation- because of the nature of the game, the levels inherently have narrative dissonance
Crazy Dave never said stuff like 4:00 in any other game, it feels like their dumming him down to a level that he was never at. He was a dumbo, but not to the point where he can't form words properly.
Flanderization really hit dave hard and he's easily at his worst in bfn (Zomboss got it worse in that game though imo) and here. Writers often struggle to differentiate that being crazy/insane is not the same thing as just being stupid or shouting random words imo.
Even Garden Warfare 2 which took some serious liberties, he still felt like a chaotic good mad scientist whose insanity causes him to come off as eccentric, not stupid. This was meant to contrast how cynical and chaotic evil Zomboss was
@@cubix_walrus7560Gw2 pushed how far Dave should go before restraint but he still got the job done in that game and showed his genuis after that he just feels stupid now. Gw2 Zomboss was pretty good though. Felt like a nice blend of Evil baddie trying to conquer the world while also being decent to his employees compared to how reserved he was in gw1 and than utterly flanderized in bfn as a pos boss. Helps that the 3d model for zomboss gave him a lot of charm like his eyes spinning around when he got really excited. Shame bfn canned that little charming piece of gw2 like so many others.
In all the previous games it's been implied we've been the neighbor defending our lawn with the help of crazy dave, but this time we're playing as crazy dave?
It's odd, when I played it I thought I was supposed to be playing as Patrice because she gets attacked when looking for Dave and she's like "I better defend this place!" but after the first level she continues looking for Dave as if the attack never happened. She wasn't even looking at the lawn. So I figured I wasn't playing as Patrice after all? Then you're just kinda randomly fending off zombies between each sentence with no acknowledgement of the attacks. It all feels so disconnected.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 I don't think they said that it's a flaw. Seems more like a question to me. Then again, I don't know, text is difficult. Only one who does is the original commenter.
How can the character portraits look so good, while having the actual in-game models look worse than the flash version of a 2008 game with a budget too small even to buy a single paid plant on its own future sequel is just beyond me
@@Looona_fan I bet a well made set of portraits for one character should cost _at least_ 4× more than a small plant sprite that has only two dead simple animations
Holy fuck I haven't laughed this hard in so long! Watching creeps absolutely lose his mind over realizing Mo is a serial killer was the funniest thing 💀
RCCH stream: Omg this game is so bad, hold on is this a "sus" ad? *Proceeds to get canned his stream Creeps Stream: Guys do you know that plants know how to talk, meaning that Mo is actually destroying intelligent being as babies? But that just a theory, a PvZ theory!
@@alexanderrussell2927 Well knowing how plants such as trees actually survived Z-Fog... But Yeah thats sound like a good justification Mo would say for his war crimes, you have a point.
@@titoheart6824 RCCH is a channel based on PvZ1 content. Mainly challenges and hards mods. Its a great PvZ1 fan, but when he played PvZ3, he despised, so desesperate, he tried to contact EA Community Manager by a little movement. Thing is, this movement when out of hand, and RCCH as well. He started to harass the CM , and rumors of trying to doxx PvZ3 developers has appeared as well. He went crazy for that entire day, and apparrently was worse on his Discord. Man, even some bigoted comments appeared because one of EA responses have a LGBTQ flag on pfp, which i understand it can be questionable, the issue is when you go against real LGBTQ members for this... The community manager turned to be out a very kind and professional person (and new as well, imagine your first day and see this!) , who even responded very well messages such as "PvZ3 is sh*t, fix it"
PvZ1: I Will have long levels even if my sun is low, so It may feels like making your own defense bit by bit and players don't feel overwhelmed! PvZ2: I may have a faster pacing, but no worries! Now Sun are double worth the price, so players wont get overwhelmed! PvZ3: F*ck you
@JoseViktor4099 PVZ1: You slowly build up your defense over time. PVZ2: It's faster paced, but here's more sun in general! PVZ3: Society has been completely destroyed, all hope of salvation is lost. We were doomed from the start and always have been. Never has reality known such horrors as those that befall is now. Woe be upon every one of us. For we attempted to stray from the formulated and forgiving light of god, and suceeded, but now at the edge of this desecrated, mutated land that was corrupt by man's own ego and need we self-manufactured to benefit only ourselves. I would pray that god would help us from ourselves, but he weeps for what we have done for ourselves, and ultimately refuses to help out of his own failure to guide us from this choice we made ourselves. Jesus weeps. The light fades.
100%'d PvZ1. I know PvZ2 gets a lot of flak but I was able to enjoy it all the way to the end of Modern World. Its premise is simple and allowed for a lot of unique zombie types. This? The inability to change plants and excessive focus on a "story" killed my interest too soon. Its like the Banjo-Kazooie Nuts N Bolts of the PvZ franchise.
Pvz somehow managed to get hit by two nuts and bolts in the form of bfn and pvz 3 and thats impressive. Maybe i'd be less critical of both if ot didnt feel like the series was one step in the grave already.
PvZ 1: favorite game in the franchise, it gives you time to build up your defenses and you get a new plant to play with after each level (except the x-4 levels, because it doesn't give new plants before minigates). The difficutly is a bit low, but it allows you to replay the game with self-imposed restrictions, which is enjoyable to me. PvZ 2: The levels have a faster pace and you only unlock plants once ever ~7 levels, which can make them feel repetitive, and I absolutely hate all the micro transactions, but the base adventure does have a bigger challenge that still feels fair to face, the levels themselves just end up feeling more like an actual game because of it. PvZ 3: Levels are even faster paced and don't feel like a satisfying challenge to beat, the micro transactions are being doubled down upon and it now takes about 20-30 levels per plant unlock. While I don't think PvZ 2 is a bad game, I just can't help but feel like the mainline games have been heading into a downward trajectory from the very beginning.
@@LucyTheBox all jokes aside, my personal favorite is pvz1 mostly because I like being able to build a proper defense. pvz2 (and especially 3 from the looks of it) have a habit of making levels end quickly. the microtransactions really don't help and price out people who just want to work with what they've got without excessive grinding or spending money.
@@Megukagi2 also doesn't really have a proper survival mode where you can build to hold the line. There are the world challenge things like pyramid of doom but they reset your defense every level and give you a rather limited selection you have to build up rather than actually send certain match ups of zombies to catch the player of guard like a combo of miners and pogos. Really every pvz game after 1 failed to utilize how fun modes like i zombie (imagine 2 variety of i zombie) or survival were. Shame as i really like 2's plants and artstyle.
It's impressive how popcap managed to make pvz 3 have an even faster pace than pvz2 but still feels there is less going on than pvz1's adventure mode (unless its the later levels then the game is so insanely hard it almost forces you to use power ups at some points).
I must say, I'm really happy that Undertale Yellow's soundtrack is getting the recognition it deserves and is used in videos unrelated to it, much like how it was with the original Undertale
In the panicking sessions through this video I genuinely thought that failboat was brought on to this video as some sort of guest. Nope it’s just creeps, somehow.
@@autismandgaming4532Bfn was disliked because its an inferior gw game. When you take most of your modes and mechanics from a previous game and than do them worse its no suprise fans rejected it. The upgrade system was never going to live up to variants in gameplay (ignoring the fact that some of them were just variant/alt abilities but less thought out to begin with) and the maps werent as deep as they were in previous games (compare tourist trap island to driftwood shores and its no competition what map is more interesting). We have less variety in ops and spawnables than we did in gw1. Maybe players would be more lenient to it if it wasnt the game the series fell on with no true gw3 in sight.
@@superbrainz2357did they ever actually say it was meant to be a direct sequel to gw2? I've always liked it bc I look at it as just a pvz shooter not tied to gw Imo it just feels nicer to play and feels more fluid, but I do wish there was more support for it
@@Josho0oIt's called gw3 in the files and even uses gw2 assests like the giga Torchwood is just the gw2 model with no light shading on it. The game even mentions yeti king in one of the pve medals. Most of the game is built off of gw mechanically and the concepts of the scrapped project hot tub game. I found the game a lot worse to play imo. Gw was never perfect but the hit reg feels far worse in bfn and alot of the animations and lighting were downgraded like the z mech explosion in 2 having it actually blows apart where in bfn it just adds random screws to fly around while the mech itself stays or how the back of imps blasters dont even open/his lights on his helmet and vest not working. The matches also feel needlessly dragged out or altered like the unnecessary suburbination changes.
I knew that Retribution had to be delivered the moment these bozos changed crazy Dave to just “Dave”. The only way they could Remedy their wrongdoings is by undergoing a Trial By Fury which involves constant patch updates, even if it leads them to having No MOney
And man, the part of the game after the apprehension of Mo where you have to find a remedy that can regrow all of those plants Mo killed was so much fun!
Creeps in the video: Soft and low voice, speaking calmly about the topic of the video. Creeps in live: I INGESTED EVERY DRUG KNOWN TO MAN KIND AND NOW I CAN FLY!
There are only 2 things I learned about this video 1: wow game looks bad 2: Creeps is the best voice actor, especially when unhinged Edit: also that line about "god may have given up on us, but I have not, for I am no god, I am a man of action" goes kinda hard and I love it
Glad to have been part of these livestreams, the absolute insanity caused due to the lore made watching it hysterical, and i think everyone should give the vods a chance. With that said, just like i've already stated during the live event, this game is everything bad with mobile gaming these days. I really do sincerely hope that when the devs were making the game, they weren't hoping to make something like this, and what we got is simply a product of what the higher ups thought would make more money. Although i had fun watching you play the game, i can confidently say that it was for all the wrong reasons, like the bad optimization, the insane lore, the comically unbalanced difficulty among other things.
The Fact that there hasnt been an insect zombie called a zom-bee that spawns zombie plants when it kills something to fight for the zombies is a tragedy
One of my biggest small annoyances with this game is Crazy Dave's dialogue. It was at its best and most iconic at PvZ 1, PvZ 2 toned it down a lot and Dave almost became just "stupid", but I wouldn't call it character assassination like I would PvZ 3, making him do the cringy "weird words" gimmick like that's what Crazy Dave is about. The first PvZ was for all ages. PvZ 2 was a bit more directed to a younger audience, but still intended to satisfy all players. PvZ 3 is only for literal small children.
Honestly, I wouldn't even hate the game if the Classic PvZ half of the Gameplay was made natural again. Choosing your plants, Replaying levels, *Actual thought and effort put into the levels themselves.* I would bear the Gardenscape half if I could just play classic PvZ again, really
I genuinely cannot believe that the other beta (not the first one that actually did have some fun ideas but just needed some tweaking, the one just before this one) was universally hated and criticized extensively, and yet, I see practically 0 differences or addressals of those criticisms. This is it. The final nail in the coffin. Before we could at least pretend that they cared, but thats just all gone now. RIP PvZ, you were one of the greats.
I find it sort of disappointing to see that no one is acknowledging that the only reason Mo became a child murderer was because of the Z-Tech Hak Pak, not by his own volition.
Mo is tied for V1 ULTRAKILL for my most ultraviolent machines list Edit: This game's lore overall is just a nightmare. Not even in like a "they expand too much" way, it's in a "there are indescribable horrors committed to become the hero" way
I dont like how Dave was turned into someone that can coherently talk now and act like mostly a normal guy that says weird words, when he clearly seemed insane and crazy in the first game and even in the second... he has been compeltley yassified
I want to thank Vander Graff (as they are known on discord, also known as u/GuessWhat_ItsAnxiety on Reddit) for drawing the thumbnail, they did a great job of showing the most terrifying character in all of fiction. Also, first thumbnail on this channel not done by me. Very nice.
I had to cut a LOT from the original stream, and there is a whole second stream which I did after which is fully untapped. I strongly recommend checking them out if this video didn't convince you of how chaotic things got. Its good fun, links in the description. Thanks for your time.
no spring bean...
You should get us to cancel RCCH he's not a good person.
I couldn’t understand half the stuff you said in that video
Its pronounced "PUH-treece"
"One day ago"
Video 17 hours ago:
Dave in this game is really just like “Stand back Patrice, I'm going to need to hit the Yoinky Sploinky...”
Best uncle ever tbh
It takes three Taco Tickets to hit the Yoinky Sploinky and advance towards the next day
He better say this in the next update
"There's a Glibby Dibby in our lawn"
Chinese crazy dave: 🗿
THERE'S NO WAY THEY REMOVED DAVE'S "BR BRU BEBEBEIDLSDIWJDDISIWJJDKX" SPEECHES!😵
Webi Wabo
It's a prequel. Mo killed Patrice, driving Dave insane
WABBAGREEEBRAAH
@@mr.creeper6836 Dave probably also killed Mo.
@@mr.creeper6836yeah but without that, is he even really Dave ?
"I am become hacked, destroyer of lawns." There is a writer on their team who has given up and just started shitposting, because who wouldn't after seeing the level design?
LMAO
Moppenheimer
Maybe because it was hacked it couldn't talk properly?
@@whiteman3656It’s a reference to Oppenheimer more than a misspelling
It's nice to see at least one person is having fun
We talk about why Crazy Dave would let Mo stick around, but don't forget this game also confirms he has the plants train from infancy for war and death.
But we are good guys, i guess 😇
@@MagisterLive12 well, history's written by the victors, right?
You gotta do what you gotta do.
I don't even know what that is
@@MagisterLive12I mean, the alternative is a dead world with undead corpses still walking so yeah, as some guy said you gotta do what you gotta do lol, it’s technically the apocalypse and in the apocalypse you can’t always be the purest of the pure
The nicest thing I can say about pvz3 is that it gave us tugboat and Mo the serial killer
Edit: NVM Tugboat sucks
Tugboat already is in the comics but pvz3 made him more popular
for me its also the artstyle, its pretty cute and charming
@@funnypeashootercreature I'm of two minds about the artstyle. On one hand, I really like how it looks. On the other, I don't think it fits at all for a PvZ game, but it particularly looks awful when you add *animation* to it
@@verstamechyeah tbh for me animations just.. sort of ruin art style?
@@marisabitch5578 Yeah, it's just that the animation style doesn't match the artstyle. The art has a very cartoonish look to it, so I'd expect the animation to be very quick with smear-frames and full-stops and such (Or whatever that kind of technique is called, but hopefully you catch my drift.) In the actual game, all the animations just look far too smooth to match the artstyle to me
Chemical warfare, destruction and hiding of carcasses, genocide, killing children in war, gore, labor low violations. Man this game is great
Game for children, i guess
Nah: It's really a game for streamers Creeps20's age
Metal Gear Solid V is looking fire!
Maybe those are just lame attempts to look edgy and cool
To be fair, other PvZ games already did that, and 3 is mostly tame in comparison to the other PvZ games (for instance, in GW2, one of the missions from Kernel Corn is to plant a literal nuke in front of your neighbors (the zombies) and it blew up most of North America).
This game is so frustrating. Because i legitimately want to like it, but the gameplay makes that near impossible
i mean the dialog is really bad, the story is mid, the characters are kinda funny but forgettable, and the art looks really fuckin good but is clearly rushed in some aspects
@@hrtzz_undrskor *half the decorations having random stuff floating*
@@hrtzz_undrskorThe characters only are forgetable if you haven't read the comics, Patrice and Tugboat are from the comics. Mo is probably the only exception since he's the only original character from what I've seen
@@MaseG27shouldn’t need to read comics to understand story for mainline game
@@SypitzBeen saying this for a while.
Why would amy regular pvz player know who these characters are suppose to be? Stubbins in bfn is never shown so the average non comic reader has no idea who he is lr why zomboss cares so much about him.
This being a prequel and Patrice becoming Penny has unironically been a headcannon of mine from the first moment Patrice got introduced.
Mo and Patrice merge jnto Penny
So idk if you know this but there is a PVZ comic, which I read when I was younger, and Patrice and Tugboat are from that comic, and penny is in that comic so I doubt it. But who knows maybe they will completely disregard that comic.
@@patheticbread6861But penny isn’t alive in Timepocalypse. She’s just “The Time Machine”
@@SuperDestroyerFox True so I suppose it could still happen.
I have a feeling that it actually is a prequel since Patrice never returns and there is also a very old pvz animation
ruclips.net/video/_J0DCKCPn9M/видео.htmlsi=yAbp9Ha89D40wT0X
Couldn't find the original this is the closest (don't know if it is official so maybe)
But hey that's just a theory
A GAME THEORY
It is downright impressive how PopCap managed to somehow take all the worst aspects of both PvZ 1 (The non-replayable levels and lack of special zombie gimmick variety) and PvZ 2 (Hyper-fast pacing, microtransactions, and absurdly-unfair difficulty spikes that encourage buying microtransactions) and decided to make a fusion of all those flaws their third game
Heck, somehow even the *good* things they squeezed in there don't work in the game's favor half the time. Personally, I loved the PvZ 1 25-sun meta because it encouraged slower gameplay and building up a decent defense. PvZ 3's 1-sun meta is pretty much the 25-sun meta in a trenchcoat, but you wouldn't think it because the gameplay is somehow FASTER than 2 with even LESS time to plan out your defense. And Locked and Loaded stages I thought were fun and all in 2 when they were sparse, but even then, there were worlds where they got annoying to me fast. Making those levels the entirety of your game honestly just completely loses me. I know what they were trying to do. But I don't like what they were trying to do whatsoever
Yeah the lower sun value with the slower pace of pvz 1 defenses doesnt work with how fast 3 just tosses the level at you as seen by the massive amount of zombies just overwhelming the rather mediocre defenses that were set up by that time.
Adding that the zombie generation is specially weird in this game... I mean, how many times has happened that zombies didn't appeared on a lane for the entire level, keeping spawning in the same lane?
Idk if they tried to do the zombie generation algorythm from scratch, or they screwed It something Up that much that It ended Up like this.
IKR
What do you mean there were so many unique zombies in pvz1
And functionally, how are pole vaulter, ladder and dolphin rider different? Also balloon does nothing but take up 1 plant slot and the same with catapult.
The best thing I can say about this game is that it's a bit better than Homescape, the game it copied.
The worse thing I can say about this game is that it's a bit better than Homescape, the game it copied.
I think the worst thing you can say is just the last part "Homescape, the game it copied"
LOL
Being comparable to Homescape is a sign that something is terribly wrong with your game
Homescape is a disgrace to the app store
Dude i grew up with PVZ and I am saddened at what my childhood game has lead up to
8:56 so, I think I know what happened... they had one person writing the story, and a different person designing the level. And they did not care enough to have those 2 guys talk to each other
Nope. The mechanics of how the game works is that story isn't tied to levels. They know where you aren't past, but they don't know what you have already passed. If you clear 60 levels, but haven't gotten to that story beat, you wouldn't know why Mo is gone.
@@furiouscorgi6614
Bruv, chill, EA is shit, stop being in denial about it.
@bepis_lord7883 i do game design. I didn't say they weren't. But that's the explanation- because of the nature of the game, the levels inherently have narrative dissonance
"Mr Mo, there are too many zombies! What are we going to do?"
* motor blades starting up *
he killed them all
and not just the men, but the women, and the children too
not just the peashooters, but the sunflowers and walnuts too
just give him something to break
"Execute groundskeeping strategy number 66."
I am become hacked, destroyer of lawns
This is the ultimate breakdown of PvZ3 lore, both emotionally and analytically. Truly a masterpiece of a game.
W
Fr pvz 3 Is master piece
Don't forget spiritually as well, wondering if there's a plant heaven that the mulched-up corpses of Mo's victims at least get to visit upon death
Tugboat!
Tugboat
They really did a:grow an orphanage with kids inside->burn it->say it was an accident->build another orphanage in the same place
Crazy Dave never said stuff like 4:00 in any other game, it feels like their dumming him down to a level that he was never at. He was a dumbo, but not to the point where he can't form words properly.
Flanderization really hit dave hard and he's easily at his worst in bfn (Zomboss got it worse in that game though imo) and here.
Writers often struggle to differentiate that being crazy/insane is not the same thing as just being stupid or shouting random words imo.
@@superbrainz2357 true that. Makes me sad to see another star fall from grace 😥
Even Garden Warfare 2 which took some serious liberties, he still felt like a chaotic good mad scientist whose insanity causes him to come off as eccentric, not stupid. This was meant to contrast how cynical and chaotic evil Zomboss was
@@cubix_walrus7560Gw2 pushed how far Dave should go before restraint but he still got the job done in that game and showed his genuis after that he just feels stupid now.
Gw2 Zomboss was pretty good though. Felt like a nice blend of Evil baddie trying to conquer the world while also being decent to his employees compared to how reserved he was in gw1 and than utterly flanderized in bfn as a pos boss.
Helps that the 3d model for zomboss gave him a lot of charm like his eyes spinning around when he got really excited. Shame bfn canned that little charming piece of gw2 like so many others.
He now just speaks completely normally, but replaces words with complete gibberish to a degree that wasn't done in previous games
Creeps' non-existent sound engineer is having the worst time right about now
just couldn't handle it anymore, that's why i don't exist
The voice acting made this entire experience 100 times better
He turned into the tf2 medic at one point
very immersive
@@theoofliabilty3070timestamp?
"THE ATROCITIES I HAVE COMMITTED IN THAT GARDEN
_SIMPLY_
*DO NOT*
*_COMPUTE_*
Seeing Creeps lose his mind after Zomboss’ exchange about a “gore-den” is probably one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while.
Him screaming about mo will never not be funny.
In all the previous games it's been implied we've been the neighbor defending our lawn with the help of crazy dave, but this time we're playing as crazy dave?
We lost
This time we don't exist. We just watch the characters do stuff. Which if fine.
It's odd, when I played it I thought I was supposed to be playing as Patrice because she gets attacked when looking for Dave and she's like "I better defend this place!" but after the first level she continues looking for Dave as if the attack never happened. She wasn't even looking at the lawn. So I figured I wasn't playing as Patrice after all?
Then you're just kinda randomly fending off zombies between each sentence with no acknowledgement of the attacks. It all feels so disconnected.
Really? That's the "flaw" you focus on?
@@addison_v_ertisement1678
I don't think they said that it's a flaw. Seems more like a question to me.
Then again, I don't know, text is difficult. Only one who does is the original commenter.
How can the character portraits look so good, while having the actual in-game models look worse than the flash version of a 2008 game with a budget too small even to buy a single paid plant on its own future sequel is just beyond me
Money
@@Looona_fan I bet a well made set of portraits for one character should cost _at least_ 4× more than a small plant sprite that has only two dead simple animations
Funfact
On the topic of Penny’s potential murder
There IS a destroyed truck at 17:52 not exactly Penny, but can be excused as a redesign for pvz3
My head-canon is now that Mo fucking mutilated Penny.
@@dummyguymanthingyh9 I was thinking the exact same thing!!
Jeez, Mo, CALM DOWN!!
Plants vs. Zombies 4: The World vs. Mo
@@LitPinataPvZ 5: Please no Mo
@@tant_necromant2757PvZ6: mo Mo, mo problems
One thing I have found out about PvZ is that they are completely fine with hinting towards child murder and I think that's funny
there's the Twin Imps from PvZ 2's circus event so...
@@unfunniestmanbut aren't imps dwarfs tho?
A moment for Creeps' sanity. He had to witness the abomination that is PvZ3 😔
And Mo
@@Angel_Alph-TVMo is canonically a mass murderer. Popcap cannot change our minds
Considering that the bar for the game was already 6 feet under ( or however that idiom went ), I'd say the writing somehow managed to pass it.
Theory: This game is infinitely more fun if you imagine all of the weird noises dave makes as davish for swear words.
That’s genuinely what I thought those were because it’s a common trope
Creeps: We must not let Mo kill anymore children!
Also Creeps: *Kills said children*
Unconventional ways to stop a maniac :)
Well to stop one he became one so... unfair trade?
He'd rather let them die at his mercy than at the unfeeling hands of a wrathful monster
Stopping people from committing suicide by... You know what ? That joke's a little too dark.
I think PvZ3 really succeeds at making me want to play PvZ2
for real
just get an APK of v3.3 or smth
In the span of 19 minutes, I watched a humble Lawnmower turn into Moppenheimer. 10/10
I feel like they started making this when Scape-likes were popular, but by the time they were ready to show it off, the entire world had moved on
YIIK reference i see
But isn't it a bit *off* to encounter?
Finally, some good storytelling. Mo the serial killer. Child soldiers. Warcrimes. Truly the pinnacle of storytelling
2:36 I like how you say "User Dave" out of instinct. Penny really has rotted our minds
Penny was a blessing in the pvz world, she deserved better.
Jesus Christ this story is delightfully gruesome. Mo has the potential to be one of the most powerful ‘antagonists’ of our time.
Holy fuck I haven't laughed this hard in so long!
Watching creeps absolutely lose his mind over realizing Mo is a serial killer was the funniest thing 💀
RCCH stream: Omg this game is so bad, hold on is this a "sus" ad? *Proceeds to get canned his stream
Creeps Stream: Guys do you know that plants know how to talk, meaning that Mo is actually destroying intelligent being as babies? But that just a theory, a PvZ theory!
Then end stream to calm down a little
I just realized something...
The baby plants could've died because of the Z-Fog right?
@@alexanderrussell2927 Well knowing how plants such as trees actually survived Z-Fog... But Yeah thats sound like a good justification Mo would say for his war crimes, you have a point.
Who is roch and why are people sayin he is bad? Genuine question
@@titoheart6824 RCCH is a channel based on PvZ1 content. Mainly challenges and hards mods.
Its a great PvZ1 fan, but when he played PvZ3, he despised, so desesperate, he tried to contact EA Community Manager by a little movement. Thing is, this movement when out of hand, and RCCH as well. He started to harass the CM , and rumors of trying to doxx PvZ3 developers has appeared as well. He went crazy for that entire day, and apparrently was worse on his Discord.
Man, even some bigoted comments appeared because one of EA responses have a LGBTQ flag on pfp, which i understand it can be questionable, the issue is when you go against real LGBTQ members for this...
The community manager turned to be out a very kind and professional person (and new as well, imagine your first day and see this!) , who even responded very well messages such as "PvZ3 is sh*t, fix it"
Having been part of the stream, i like how they kinda made it PVZ1 sun meta, just shrinked the sun values everywhere.
Yet the pacing is faster than pvz 2
PvZ1: I Will have long levels even if my sun is low, so It may feels like making your own defense bit by bit and players don't feel overwhelmed!
PvZ2: I may have a faster pacing, but no worries! Now Sun are double worth the price, so players wont get overwhelmed!
PvZ3: F*ck you
@@JoseViktor4099PvZ3: Spamspamspamspamspam I'm spam. You have to use powerups though.
@@JoseViktor4099well you see you can use powerups to clear the level-
@JoseViktor4099 PVZ1: You slowly build up your defense over time.
PVZ2: It's faster paced, but here's more sun in general!
PVZ3: Society has been completely
destroyed, all hope of salvation is
lost. We were doomed from the start and always have been. Never has reality known such horrors as those that befall is now. Woe be upon every one of us. For we attempted to stray from the formulated and forgiving light of god, and suceeded, but now at the edge of this desecrated, mutated land that was corrupt by man's own ego and need we self-manufactured to benefit only ourselves. I would pray that god would help us from ourselves, but he weeps for what we have done for ourselves, and ultimately refuses to help out of his own failure to guide us from this choice we made ourselves. Jesus weeps. The light fades.
100%'d PvZ1. I know PvZ2 gets a lot of flak but I was able to enjoy it all the way to the end of Modern World. Its premise is simple and allowed for a lot of unique zombie types.
This? The inability to change plants and excessive focus on a "story" killed my interest too soon. Its like the Banjo-Kazooie Nuts N Bolts of the PvZ franchise.
Pvz somehow managed to get hit by two nuts and bolts in the form of bfn and pvz 3 and thats impressive.
Maybe i'd be less critical of both if ot didnt feel like the series was one step in the grave already.
ngl the only way to experience the pvz3 story is when you're high as a kite and probably have some friends to laugh at it with
PvZ 1: favorite game in the franchise, it gives you time to build up your defenses and you get a new plant to play with after each level (except the x-4 levels, because it doesn't give new plants before minigates). The difficutly is a bit low, but it allows you to replay the game with self-imposed restrictions, which is enjoyable to me.
PvZ 2: The levels have a faster pace and you only unlock plants once ever ~7 levels, which can make them feel repetitive, and I absolutely hate all the micro transactions, but the base adventure does have a bigger challenge that still feels fair to face, the levels themselves just end up feeling more like an actual game because of it.
PvZ 3: Levels are even faster paced and don't feel like a satisfying challenge to beat, the micro transactions are being doubled down upon and it now takes about 20-30 levels per plant unlock.
While I don't think PvZ 2 is a bad game, I just can't help but feel like the mainline games have been heading into a downward trajectory from the very beginning.
@@LucyTheBox all jokes aside, my personal favorite is pvz1 mostly because I like being able to build a proper defense. pvz2 (and especially 3 from the looks of it) have a habit of making levels end quickly. the microtransactions really don't help and price out people who just want to work with what they've got without excessive grinding or spending money.
@@Megukagi2 also doesn't really have a proper survival mode where you can build to hold the line.
There are the world challenge things like pyramid of doom but they reset your defense every level and give you a rather limited selection you have to build up rather than actually send certain match ups of zombies to catch the player of guard like a combo of miners and pogos.
Really every pvz game after 1 failed to utilize how fun modes like i zombie (imagine 2 variety of i zombie) or survival were. Shame as i really like 2's plants and artstyle.
I love how it’s canon that mo is a registered war criminal in the pvz universe
Basically mo is secretly a villain
Pvz + gardenscapes + Fnaf 3 = pvz3
"Mo commits a Purple Guy" is peak chapter naming
You could say he pulled an Asgore, or an Anakin.
It's impressive how popcap managed to make pvz 3 have an even faster pace than pvz2 but still feels there is less going on than pvz1's adventure mode (unless its the later levels then the game is so insanely hard it almost forces you to use power ups at some points).
"if you're familiar with GardenScapes, you know what I'm talking about" that is NOT a sentence I wanna hear in a PVZ video
I love how every voice gradually becomes Zomboss' by the end
A robot killing young plants... MO IS A FNAF REFERENCE
AND IT TURNED INTO PURPLE TOO
Holy shit!!!!
@@coolkenmanThe mo behind the slaughter.
I now want 20 parody songs for peak fnaf inspiration.
THE MO BEHIND THE SLAUGHTERRRR
It's been so long...
Tugboat Appreciation Comment!!
tugboat appreciation aside, this stream was incredible. can't wait for more funny unhinged plant game!!
Tugboat the Browncoat Zombie.
Best part of PvZ 3, with Mopurle Guy coming as a close second.
TUGBOAT!
I lost my magic
@@ryelo5448you would be the type.
- Hey Patrice from plants vs zombies, whats the name of that post modern rpg?”
- 5:59
Creeps' voice slowly went from a British accent to an insane Irish one. Fitting as that's what Creeps basically became during this stream.
I must say, I'm really happy that Undertale Yellow's soundtrack is getting the recognition it deserves and is used in videos unrelated to it, much like how it was with the original Undertale
inb4 copyright claims
Mo's redemption arc has been one of the best redemption stories ever written.
*Insert sarcasm here* which I think it is sarcasm.
A plot synopsis of this particular entry would go so hard
In the panicking sessions through this video I genuinely thought that failboat was brought on to this video as some sort of guest.
Nope it’s just creeps, somehow.
You are right, he does sound like failboat, when he's going crazy over Mo.
Everytime I read Crazy Daves dialogue, overtime I'm developing a stroke, aneurysm, and a headache all in one
I love Mo saying the Oppenheimer quote. I made laugh so hard that I had to cover my mouth to avoid waking anyone up.
I am choosing to interpret Crazy Dave's nonsense words as incomprehensible amounts of swearing
didn’t think they could made a game that is worse than battle for neighborvile
BFN was good fym
Bfn was disliked because it wasn’t a gw game. Pvz3 is disliked because it could have been a good game, but was made in every wrong way
@@autismandgaming4532Bfn was disliked because its an inferior gw game.
When you take most of your modes and mechanics from a previous game and than do them worse its no suprise fans rejected it.
The upgrade system was never going to live up to variants in gameplay (ignoring the fact that some of them were just variant/alt abilities but less thought out to begin with) and the maps werent as deep as they were in previous games (compare tourist trap island to driftwood shores and its no competition what map is more interesting).
We have less variety in ops and spawnables than we did in gw1.
Maybe players would be more lenient to it if it wasnt the game the series fell on with no true gw3 in sight.
@@superbrainz2357did they ever actually say it was meant to be a direct sequel to gw2? I've always liked it bc I look at it as just a pvz shooter not tied to gw
Imo it just feels nicer to play and feels more fluid, but I do wish there was more support for it
@@Josho0oIt's called gw3 in the files and even uses gw2 assests like the giga Torchwood is just the gw2 model with no light shading on it. The game even mentions yeti king in one of the pve medals.
Most of the game is built off of gw mechanically and the concepts of the scrapped project hot tub game.
I found the game a lot worse to play imo. Gw was never perfect but the hit reg feels far worse in bfn and alot of the animations and lighting were downgraded like the z mech explosion in 2 having it actually blows apart where in bfn it just adds random screws to fly around while the mech itself stays or how the back of imps blasters dont even open/his lights on his helmet and vest not working.
The matches also feel needlessly dragged out or altered like the unnecessary suburbination changes.
17:26 - 17:28 , Pop cap needs to hire this guy, he said "*gribble*" perfectly for crazy daves voice
My favorite part of UTY3 is when Crazy dave taco blasted MO after he heard they killed the peashooter
I know. Crazy Dave just went in Gun Blazing! It was the End Of The Line_ for Mo, I guess.
I knew that Retribution had to be delivered the moment these bozos changed crazy Dave to just “Dave”. The only way they could Remedy their wrongdoings is by undergoing a Trial By Fury which involves constant patch updates, even if it leads them to having No MOney
And man, the part of the game after the apprehension of Mo where you have to find a remedy that can regrow all of those plants Mo killed was so much fun!
What is UTY3?
@@blakksheep736undertale yellow 3
Creeps in the video: Soft and low voice, speaking calmly about the topic of the video.
Creeps in live: I INGESTED EVERY DRUG KNOWN TO MAN KIND AND NOW I CAN FLY!
Cant wait to see mo absolutely shredding more tiny plants
There are only 2 things I learned about this video
1: wow game looks bad
2: Creeps is the best voice actor, especially when unhinged
Edit: also that line about "god may have given up on us, but I have not, for I am no god, I am a man of action" goes kinda hard and I love it
Also include; Mo is a serial killer and murdered children.
26:40 that line goes so hard I forgot this was about a lawnmower in a kids game
Glad to have been part of these livestreams, the absolute insanity caused due to the lore made watching it hysterical, and i think everyone should give the vods a chance.
With that said, just like i've already stated during the live event, this game is everything bad with mobile gaming these days. I really do sincerely hope that when the devs were making the game, they weren't hoping to make something like this, and what we got is simply a product of what the higher ups thought would make more money. Although i had fun watching you play the game, i can confidently say that it was for all the wrong reasons, like the bad optimization, the insane lore, the comically unbalanced difficulty among other things.
The Fact that there hasnt been an insect zombie called a zom-bee that spawns zombie plants when it kills something to fight for the zombies is a tragedy
“Like, Zoinks, Mo, those were innocent civilians!”
One of my biggest small annoyances with this game is Crazy Dave's dialogue. It was at its best and most iconic at PvZ 1, PvZ 2 toned it down a lot and Dave almost became just "stupid", but I wouldn't call it character assassination like I would PvZ 3, making him do the cringy "weird words" gimmick like that's what Crazy Dave is about. The first PvZ was for all ages. PvZ 2 was a bit more directed to a younger audience, but still intended to satisfy all players. PvZ 3 is only for literal small children.
Crazy Dave was such a cool character now he just goes "glappa gorpa borp zirp zirp😂" every two sentences
Honestly, I wouldn't even hate the game if the Classic PvZ half of the Gameplay was made natural again. Choosing your plants, Replaying levels, *Actual thought and effort put into the levels themselves.*
I would bear the Gardenscape half if I could just play classic PvZ again, really
Same, the story is peak "so bad it's good" imo
I really hope Mo ends up becoming the twist villain final boss of the game somehow.
Also the breadbugs in the corner is based af
Why is Mo… The Robot behind the Slaughter
The mo behind the slaughter...
I genuinely cannot believe that the other beta (not the first one that actually did have some fun ideas but just needed some tweaking, the one just before this one) was universally hated and criticized extensively, and yet, I see practically 0 differences or addressals of those criticisms.
This is it. The final nail in the coffin. Before we could at least pretend that they cared, but thats just all gone now. RIP PvZ, you were one of the greats.
it went from "yay, Tugboat! :D" to "MO, NO, DON'T KILL THE YOUNGLINGS!!" real damn fast...
Mo is straight up a Dark Souls boss.
All hail Mo, Merciless Obliterator
"I must save the imps" *crushes them into a pulp*
Plant Younglings: "Master Mo, they're everywhere. What are we going to do?"
The Moblieration was REAL
why did I read it as "Morbliteration"
I find it sort of disappointing to see that no one is acknowledging that the only reason Mo became a child murderer was because of the Z-Tech Hak Pak, not by his own volition.
I want the villain of PvZ3
*Zombies*
I said the _real_ villain
*Zomboss*
Perfection
*Mo*
Child murder is canonically a goal of zomboss in plants vs zombies
Where is our Mo murder spree fanfic
It's not fanfic if it's canon.
one day someone will make a creepypasta about this.
will have a similar popularity to deadplants
Mo… I remember you’re *HERBICIDES…*
Creeps on videos: Clear, fluent, readable english.
Creeps on streams: Crazy dave speaking Walish
I really felt that when he said "That's normal for lawnmowers."
my fav moment from the game is when mo said "it's moing time!" and moed all over the place
The worst part is reviews on the App Store will be 5 stars, and then you read them and they say they miss things from the previous games
bot reviews
Let's face it, the only one who's carrying this game is Tugboat. He's the true MVP!
more like MVZ
It's so flabbergasting but refreshing to hear you laugh so hard.
Seeing Dave talking normally feels very cursed, even though it’s just text
Mo: "I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too"
I remember yesterday getting to the level where the gargantuar got introduced and my first thought was "WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY BOI?!?"
Mo maybe killed the baby plants but remember,their souls always follow Mo
Usually when people put “I did this thing and went crazy” it’s clickbait. But this video wasn’t kidding, and that why I love it.
I'm like 3 minutes in
THIS IS KINDA THE PLOT TO THE FIRST COMIC
Zombie fog? Check
Get rid of it with a wind machine? Check
That's all
That's called *Repurposing to not have to create a new narrative!*
Also literally has Patrice and tugboat, which were only in the comics
Clicked for the content, stayed for the Undertale Yellow Soundtrack!
Mo is tied for V1 ULTRAKILL for my most ultraviolent machines list
Edit: This game's lore overall is just a nightmare. Not even in like a "they expand too much" way, it's in a "there are indescribable horrors committed to become the hero" way
I dont like how Dave was turned into someone that can coherently talk now and act like mostly a normal guy that says weird words, when he clearly seemed insane and crazy in the first game and even in the second... he has been compeltley yassified
THE LEVEL BAR MOVES TO THE RIGHT!? HELL NAW
I feel like pvz 3 is a product of Dr. Zomboss' ingenuity to cause the most suffering possible.
If you don't care for the story, Gameplay is at:
7:10
9:02
14:28
19:54
22:35
23:26
plants vs zombies garden warfare 3: Plantom Pain
Mo is the man behind the slaughter
Edit:LMAO I JUST SAW THE CHAPTER NAME
Mo cannonically vapes Zom-fog.