Dude! I am listening to this now, 2022, wondering how much crazier things can get! Trusting God and looking for the blessed hope of Titus 2:13. Maranatha!
"As far as the gospel is concerned, they (Israel) are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable." (Romans 11)
He was talking about proto-Judaists. The modern Judaists of today ARE NOT Israel. There is a continuance in this, those in Christ are Israel, those descending from the old Israel (most of whom are now Christian or Muslim) can be grafted in back, though.
'For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a New Creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God' (Gal 6:15,16 read in context) Yes, there is only 1 Israel, the Israel of God ..and if Israel,after the flesh, repent they shall be grafted in again ...'Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are Not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither,because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Rom 9)....:'And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise' (Gal 3:29)
'For he is Not a Jew who is one Outwardly, Nor is circumcision that which is Outward in the Flesh; but he is a Jew who is one Inwardly; and circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God' (Romans 2:28-29)
Odd in Roman's there are two different types of Israel spoken of. The physical and the spiritual. If God is not a respecter of person, and each individual is responsible for their own salvation, then a physical nation is NOT the people of God. Which also makes sense if you apply Jesus Christ to Israel. No one comes to the father except through Jesus. They Physical nation rejected Christ therefore they do not have the father! Which points back to Israel is a spiritual people of God!!
Amen and Amen! ..'In the Lord shall all the Seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory' (Isaiah 45:25)....'For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed'(Romans 9) 'And if you are Christ’s, Then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the Promise' (Galatians 3:29)
That was a very powerful teaching Mike. You really made the story of Elijah come to life for me. I had never really connected that fact that God 'took' him because he wanted out!! That really shows the incredible love and compassion of Yahweh. Very beautiful.😊
This was such a timely message. Oh man! I've been so discouraged. I see God's sovereignty and holiness and also his grace and love toward those who are discouraged and depressed. Wow!
Praise the Lord for your understanding of Scripture. Be encouraged in the Lord and I pray that you'll grow in the love and knowledge of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour.
Sadly, there are people who deny the jewishness of Jesus... they use contradictions in Scripture to deny His jewish roots and focus only on the verses they like in the New Testament, while also rejecting the Old Testament altogether. 🤷🏻♀
Ik thats what I was thinking. It's like thy forgot that JESUS WAS A JEW. Like come on? Jesus was the very Jewish person of all the bible. The most holy Jew of all. God's own son
@@tacopancho2166 its true, but that doesn't take away the fact that He was a jew, born among jews, in judaic culture initiated by Moses, under the instructions of God.
I kind want to peak behind the curtain of the spiritual realm when Elijah was challenging the priests of Baal. Also, listening the day after the horrible school shooting in TX. What encouragement God's word is!
WHO IS A JEW IN GODS EYES? Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Compare These Verses of Scripture from the Old Testament and the New Testament. Old Testament (Nation of Israel) Exo 19:5 Now therefore, IF ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: Exo_19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. We know that they did NOT obey God's Voice and they rejected Jesus so Jesus said to them. Mat_21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof. What nation was Jesus talking about? Peter while writing to Christians wrote. New Testament (Nation of Israel) 1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Peter is referring to is the same nation Jesus was talking about in Matthew 21:43 The nation of Israel we see today is a Satanic counterfeit The nation born in one day has not been born yet. Jesus is drawing out a people for his name out of every nation to establish the true Israel of God. Then we have Galatians 6:16 and Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Gal_3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
God originally made a covenant with Abraham and Peter says in 2 Peter chapter 3 verse 9 that the Lord is not slow in keeping his promise and he does not want any one to perish but for everyone to come to repentance.
A covenant involves two parties and is made on the understanding that each party will honor the covenant. God will "cast you off" should you also reject your covenant. It's made quite clear what happened with the old covenant...There is neither jew nor gentile.
The remnant Paul's is talking about are the Jews that came out of the great tribulation, which reached fulfillment in 70AD. the Mosaic Covenant is no more (Eph. 2:14-15, Acts 15, and Heb. 8). No need for a 3rd temple or animal sacrifices. God has one people. You are either in Christ or you are not.
@@MrSparkums Ahh yes. The satanic jew and his claims Paul was a false apostle. If Paul is a false apostle then Christ is not God since he chose Saul personally from Heaven to preach to the LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL aka EUROPEANS and bring them back to his flock.
I have appreciated Mike Wingers honest and exhaustive research on God's Word. I like that he is not biased and usually realizes that not all doctrines need to be dogmatic. Tulip/Calvin might have some points but also has flaws or wrong doctrine. I am even more encouraged today because he did take a stand and separated the truth from myth. Taco Bell is not authentic Mexican food, it is one or the other. Replacement theology is wrong. Prosperity movement is wrong. Thank you Mike, for not compromising even when many people can be offended. :)
You’re sadly mistaken. Winger isn’t a good expositor; he’s just an eloquent and convincing speaker. If you don’t have a good foundation in the historic Christian faith, you’ll fall into this kind of error whenever an articulate, persuasive person opens their mouth to teach. Shame.
@@matthewdyer2926 interesting. Can you please share your born again testimony? I would like to know when you were forgiven of your sins and converted to a child of God .
@@TOBYD7 What you just did is called “deflection”. It’s a logical fallacy of distraction employed for the purpose of avoiding engagement when you lack a good argument. Props to you for dressing it quite piously, though!
Psalm 121 1 My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore. 32:22 needs to be a clip! So encouraging! Psalm 121 1 My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.
but Israel HAS forsaken God. There is no such thing as an "unbreakable Covenant." Covenants are always unbreakable by God. But a covenant by definition requires TWO parties. If one of them departs from the terms, there must be a New Covenant--the Old one, including the land and nation promises are not valid. But we can come through the blood of Messiah and Join His Kingdom and Covenant. Hebrews Ch 11 spells this out, as does Galatians Ch 3.
"13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and SAVE SOME OF THEM (PRESENTLY). ...23 And they also, IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE IN THEIR UNBELIEF, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? 25 FOR I DO NOT WANT YOU, BRETHREN, TO BE UNINFORMED OF THIS MYSTERY-so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-that A PARTIAL HARDENING HAS HAPPENED TO ISRAEL (PRESENTLY) UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED (FUTURE ISRAEL); just as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.” (FUTURE) 27 “This is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” (FUTURE ISRAEL) 28 From the standpoint of THE GOSPEL THEY ARE ENEMIES for your sake, but from the standpoint of GOD'S CHOICE THEY ARE BELOVED for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32 For God has shut up ALL IN DISOBEDIENCE SO THAT HE MAY SHOW MERCY TO ALL." (Romans 11)
Dispensational Claim: God will go back and deal with Israel after the “times of the Gentiles” is completed. The “times of the Gentiles” is referred to in Luke 21:24, and Romans 11:25, and eluded to indirectly in Acts 28:28. When does the time of the Gentiles come to fullness based on the words of Christ below? Almost all Bible scholars agree that the first part of Luke 21:24 is about the destruction of Jerusalem during 70 AD. The times of the Gentiles are fulfilled after that event. Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Based on the words of Christ found above, the “times of the Gentiles” comes to fullness at the future Second Coming of Christ. This fact kills the Dispensational claim found above. Some claim the times of the Gentiles ended during 1948 when the modern State of Israel came into being. What does Paul say below about the times of the Gentiles? Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Did the spiritual blindness of all the Israelites end during 1948? No. Claim: Romans 11 proves National Israel will be saved in the future. I have heard both John MacArthur, and John Hagee make the following statement… “And then all Israel will be saved.” (Also found on page 349 of the book “Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty” by the Jesuit, Manuel Lacunza “Ben Ezra”.) Both MacArthur, and Hagee, are selectively quoting from the verse below in an attempt to make Dispensational Theology work. Have they changed the meaning of the verse? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. These men have changed the word “so”, which is an adverb of manner, into the word “then”, which is an adverb of timing. What is the “manner” of salvation in the passage? It is in the preceding verses found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? In Romans chapter 11 the Apostle Paul uses the Olive Tree as a symbol of the New Covenant Church, made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles, grafted together into the same tree. In the two verses above the unbelievers can be grafted back into the tree through faith in Christ. Paul provides no path to salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in the passage. Is the “covenant” in verse 27 a future covenant with the modern State of Israel, or is it the New Covenant fulfilled for all races of people by the blood of Christ at Calvary? In order to answer this question we need to know who is “Israel”, as defined by Paul, earlier in the same letter to the Romans. What did Paul say below about “Israel” in Romans chapter 9? Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: (All Israelites are not a part of faithful Israel.) Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. (Being a physical Israelite does not make a person a part of Israel of the promise.) Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: (Only a “remnant” of Israelites shall be saved.) Based on the verses above from Romans 9 Paul was describing the “manner” of how Israelites would be saved in Romans 11:26, instead of the timing of their salvation. The verse below is also often used by Dispensationalists in an attempt to make their doctrine work. Dispensationalists often insist an Israelite can be an enemy of God, and the elect at the same time. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Throughout Romans chapter 11 the Apostle Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites, one faithful, and one not faithful. Paul begins the chapter this way is Romans 11:1-5, by describing the Israelites who were Baal worshippers, in contrast to the faithful “remnant”, during the time of Elijah. Paul said there was also a faithful “remnant” during his time. Therefore, based on Romans 11:1-5, there are two different groups of Israelites in Romans 11:28. The Israelites who rejected Christ were the “they” who are the enemies of God, while the group of “they” who accepted Christ are the “election”. Paul ends the passage in the same way that he began the passage, with two different groups of Israelites. Claim: God has blinded Israel during the “Church Age”. This claim also comes from Romans 11. Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Have all of the Israelites been “partially” blinded, as Dispensationalists infer, or has part of Israel been blinded, and part of Israel has not been blinded? The answer is found in the “remnant” of Romans 11:5. The only way to make Romans 11 match the Dispesationalists doctrine is by changing words in the passage, and by ignoring the earlier context of the passage, and by ignoring who is “Israel” in Romans 9.
@@SpotterVideo Spotter, your answer below sounds like Preterism which is a cookie cutter with a lot of leftovers. Most scholars don't agree on anything. That is why scripture in context is the only thing that is important here. It doesn't naturally follow that the Destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 is quickly followed by the fullness of the Gentiles. In that time period every eye didn't see Jesus nor did it see suffering unequaled since nor the starts falling from heaven. (Mt. 24) That will be in the future. The Holocaust was worse than A.D. 70. In the Luke reference Jesus comes IN (ev) a cloud. In the Matthew reference He comes on (epi) a cloud and every eye shall see Him. One may be speaking of A.D. 70 while Matt is speaking of the future when the stars will fall from heaven. "Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn WHEN THEY SEE the Son of Man coming ON the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." (Matt. 24:30) "Look, he is coming WITH (Meta) the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”So shall it be! Amen." (Rev. 1) Both John and Matthew refer to Jesus coming visibly, not IN a cloud as in Luke which probably describes A.D. 70 Two separate events. Also Zechariah 12:10 validates the time when every eye shall see Him. The Matthew reference is still future. Matthew also says, 'Immediately after the Tribulation of those days...' I don't know of any Dispies that claim that Israel's blindness ended in 1948. Sounds like a strawman to me. No one in A.D. 70 saw: 1) The stars falling from heaven. (Mt. 24) 2) Unequaled suffering (Matt. 24) 3) Everyone seeing Him on the clouds. Everyone wants to claim the evil Jesuits are behind everything they don't agree with. I can do that too. The Unmitigated Twaddle of Jesuit-Romanist Preterism By Ron Cooke Date Posted: 8/3/2001 "Preterism was first advanced in 1604 by Jesuit Luis de Alcasar to destroy the Reformed Protestant teaching that the papacy was Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore and the historical Antichrist." Also the manner and timing of Israel i.e., 'Jacob's' salvation is defined in the verse that follows in Romans eleven. " 26 and IN THIS WAY ALL Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from JACOB. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” (Romans 11) All Israel i.e., 'Jacob' wasn't saved in or shortly after A.D. 70. If it meant incorporated into the church, all of Jacob would have been saved. Speaking of Manner, Acts 1:11 tells us the manner of Jesus' visible Second Coming. "Men of Galilee,' they said, 'why do you stand here looking into the sky? This SAME JESUS, who has been taken from you into heaven, will COME BACK IN THE SAME WAY you have seen him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:11) He was visible when He lifted off, He will be visible when He Comes back to the Mount of Olives. This didn't happen in A.D. 70 either. The Olive tree reference is a reference to the present when INDIVIDUAL Jews and Gentiles believe and become the seed of Abe (not Jacob) which is Christ, The future is still when 'Jacob' as a whole is irresistibly saved as a nation. "when I will make a new covenant with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL and with the HOUSE OF JUDAH..." (Eze. 31:31b) Not assimilate some individual Jews into the church Presently, Individually placed in Christ through faith. "For you are all sons of God through FAITH IN CHRIST Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is NEITHER JEW NO GREEK, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all ONE IN CHRIST JESUS. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are ABRAHAM'S (Not Jacobs) DESCENDANTS, heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:26-28) The Olive Tree is Abraham and Christ. The promise is to Abe from the Word in Genesis before there was even an Israel. (Gen. 15:4-6) A.D. 70 continuing on to even now: " 22 because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.(When the Fullness of the Gentiles has come) 23 "Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; (A.D. 70 but not unequaled like Matthew 24) 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles UNTIL the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.(Still happening) 25 "There will be signs in sun and moon and stars (Happened and will happen but no stars falling yet), and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, 26 men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.(Happened in A.D. 70 but ON the clouds and visible...'every eye'.. still in the future) 28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." (Luke 21) Future Coming of Christ: " 21 For then there will be great distress, UNEQUALED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD UNTIL NOW (Hasn't happened...the Holocaust was worse than A.D. 70)-and NEVER TO BE EQUALED AGAIN.... 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (No one saw Jesus in A.D. 70 but they did see chariots)..the stars will fall from the sky....(didn't happen in A.D. 70)...they see the Son of Man coming ON the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.(Didn't happen in A.D. 70..No one saw Jesus ON (Epi) the clouds.)" (Matthew 24) ".Son of man...With the Clouds... " (Daniel 7:12-14)
@@bjmaxwell1862 John quoted the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10 as being fulfilled at Calvary in John 19:37. The times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. The first part of verse 24 is about 70 AD, but the end of the verse reveals the timing of Christ's future Second Coming described in verses 25-28. Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Christ was a partial preterist in the Olivet Discourse, because the second temple was destroyed. Christ did not return to planet earth during 70 AD.
@@SpotterVideo Actually, John mentioned part of Zechariah 12:10 as fulfilled but the rest of it wasn't: 10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, AND THEY WILL MOURN for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 ON THAT DAY the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 THE LAND WILL MOURN, EACH CLAN BY ITSELF, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives." (Zechariah 12) All of Israel didn't mourn at Jesus' crucifixion and it didn't happen 'On that day' (the Millennium) which in the book of Zechariah always means the very end, which hasn't happened yet. Also the same John after Jesus' crucifixion i.e. piercing says in Revelation: " 7 “Look, he is coming WITH (Meta) the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, 'EVEN THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM'; and ALL PEOPLES ON EARTH 'WILL MOURN BECAUSE OF HIM.' So shall it be! Amen. 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1) Here in Revelation after the reference in John Nineteen John tells us that those who pierced him will mourn when He comes back again just as Zechariah twelve predicts. Though, I do agree with you that, ''Christ did not return to planet earth during 70 AD." That will come in the future when Christ comes ON the clouds and THEN He will touch down and fulfill all the prophecies mentioned in the other gospel accounts.
@@bjmaxwell1862 Are you saying the Spirit was not poured out in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost? Did about 3,000 from "all the house of Israel" (Acts 2:36) mourn for the Messiah they had seen "pierced" a few weeks earlier? Based on the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18, and the passage below, everyone is going to be resurrected from the dead and judged, even those who caused Him to be pierced. Mat 12:41 'Men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, for they reformed at the proclamation of Jonah, and lo, a greater than Jonah here! Mat 12:42 'A queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and lo, a greater than Solomon here! See also John 5:27-30.
Whoa. When you said that God said to Elijah, "You think you're the only one who follows me? There are 7000 men just like you in your own backyard." That humbled even me! - can't imagine how Elijah's jaw must have dropped.
God hasn't forsaken anybody. A Jew, Muslim, or Christian though must believe Jesus Christ is Messiah and that he died on the cross and arose in 3 days in order to be saved. Now I ll watch your video. If it says anything different then you got it wrong. There is a New Covenant. The body of Christ is Israel. Only one could stand perfect against the law. Jesus is the answer. There will always be a remnant.
There is not a single verse that says Church replaced Israel. Church is an extension of Israel..but not replacement. This is not over yet. The bones shall live, in Jesus Mighty Name, Ezekiel 37 One of the points of this sermon was to not lose heart like Elijah and give up the fight. We will reap a harvest if we don't faint
Which of the two Israels in Romans 11:1-5 are you talking about. Some of us do not know the difference between the faithful "remnant", and the Baal worshipers. Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart. Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
God didn’t cast away Israel. All of the Old Testament promises and prophesies are fulfilled or are to be fulfilled in Jesus… not in an independent Jewish state. Galatians 3 and Roman’s 11 do not teach the idea of a separated chosen people post Christ’s covenant.
This message is beautifully presented; the best presentation I have ever experienced. No shouting, it's brought forth with, knowledge, understanding, wisdom and a calm composure. Thank you my brother.
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews. The greatest "Semite" who ever lived was crucified at Calvary for the sin of all races of people. In 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9 Paul warns us against using "genealogies" in our faith. Why? The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Galatians 3:16. Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Charlie Parks. Indeed. I use to discredited the Jews for killing the messiah until I read Isaiah 53, I then understand it's because of me the messiah has to die: Isaiah 53:1-12 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 55 vs 6-7…Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked abandon his way, And the unrighteous person his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD (Jesus), And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
I think this verse is about our salvation and resurrection at his coming. Hosea 6:1 ¶ Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Peter said, 2Pe 3:8 ¶ But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The two days (two thousand years) would be from Jesus' crucifixion. If he was crucified in 30 AD, His coming would be two thousand years from then. If that is so, His coming would be about 2030. Back that up seven years and you come to 2023 and the confirmation of the covenant. Move ahead three and a half years to 2026 to 27 and you come to the abomination of desolation. Of course the third day would be the millennium reign. If his death and resurrection was in 33 AD just add three years. I think we only have a handful of years before it all comes to pass. The first two verses of Hosea 6 to me are obviously salvation verses. In verse 1 Jesus reconciles us to God by taking our sins to the cross. In verse 2 he returns to resurrect us and receive his kingdom. The word "revive" and the phrase "shall live" in verse 2 are from this word. 02421. hyx chayah, khaw-yaw' a primitive root ; to live, whether literally or figuratively; causatively, to revive:--keep (leave, make) alive, X certainly, give (promise) life, nourish up, preserve (alive), quicken, recover, repair, restore (to life), revive, (X God) save (alive, life, lives), X surely, be whole. If you pronounce the word correctly, maybe it sounds like the breath of life. "Replacement theology" is one of those disparaging distinctions thrown around to dismiss an idea without debate, like "anti-semite" and "conspiracy theorist." The church is Israel, and is the fulfillment of the promises God made to Adam and Noah and Abraham and Israel and Moses. Not a replacement at all, but a fulfillment and inclusion. The final fulfillment is to be accomplished in the millennial kingdom. His kingdom is not of this world. Any "apparent" fulfillment in this present world is an antichrist counterfeit. The messianic prophecies were always meant to be fulfilled in the first resurrection and in the millennial kingdom. A remnant is a very small leftover from a much larger whole. All Israel will only be saved in a remnant. The Jewish misunderstanding that the messianic kingdom would be fulfilled in this present time and among the physical nation of Israel was always wrong. Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. Ro 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. All we believers, Jews and Greeks, will be revived and rule with Christ on the third day. There is no "church age". That is not found in the Bible. Ga 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. This idea people have of separating gentile believers from Jewish believers is unbiblical. Unbelieving Jews won't be saved anyway. Neither will unbelieving gentiles. There is no gentile church. There is only an Israel church with whom gentiles have been blessed to conjunct. Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Mt 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. John the baptizer Ga 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but AS OF ONE, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. Ga 3:19 ¶ Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, TILL THE SEED SHOULD COME to whom the promise was made; Lu 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mt 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Ro 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. 27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. The complete fulfillment will be in the first resurrection. Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
I have to say that I don’t see how you can say that there are no more Jews and Gentiles, because in Romans 11:13, God says through Paul, that Believing Gentiles are STILL GENTILES:- Romans 11:13 KJVS For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If you insist that according to Galatians 3:28 there are no more Jews and Gentiles, then you must also say that there are no more Males and Females, for the verse reads that way:- Galatians 3:28 KJVS There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. So, what the scriptures clearly teach is that the distinctions between Jews and Gentiles, Males and Females make no difference as far as individual salvation is concerned, but it most certainly does NOT teach that ALL distinctions have ceased to exist. Israel is still God’s chosen nation, until the Sun, Moon, and Stars cease to shine, according to Jeremiah 31:35-37 Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJVS Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name: [36] If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. [37] Thus saith the Lord ; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord. Whilst we are in the times of the Gentiles (Luke 21:24) the time is coming when God will return His attention to the nation of Israel and the Jewish people, just as Paul says in Romans 11:- Romans 11:25-32 KJVS For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. [30] For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: [31] Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. [32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Clearly this cannot be referring to the Church, because they are already saved and saying that v. 26 refers to the Church makes no sense, because it’s like saying; all who are saved will be saved. (The Church being made up of only those who are saved) God has PROMISED many things to the Jews that have not been fulfilled as yet, and whilst they still have to go through a time of purging (Zechariah 13:8-9) in which only one third of them will be left, that third will ALL believe and come to salvation, as the text tells us:- Zechariah 13:8-9 KJVS And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. [9] And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God. Paul’s letter to the Romans tells us that Jews remain Jews even after salvation and Gentiles remain Gentiles after salvation, just as Men remain Men after salvation and Women remain Women after salvation. They are all Abraham’s children in their salvation that comes through faith, but they don’t become non-Jews or non-Gentiles, any more than men become non-men, or women become non-women. Abraham was NOT a Jew! Neither were Isaac or Jacob. Only the descendants of Jacob/Israel have that distinction. Please read these texts through carefully and you will see that this is so. Blessings.
Yeah, but that doesn’t make a Gentile a Jew, no matter what. Paul was talking about the difference between faithful Jews and rebellious Jews. He even calls the Believing Roman Gentiles, GENTILES in verse 13 of Romans chapter 11:13 Romans 11:13 KJVS For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: He then goes on to talk to them about their attitude towards unbeliev😅Jews:- Romans 11:18-25 KJVS Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. [19] Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. [20] Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: [21] For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. [22] Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. [23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. [24] For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? [25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Note well that Paul says that those unbelieving Jews are still owners of the olive tree into which Gentiles have been grafted. (V.24) Gentiles remain Gentiles and Jews remain Jews, whether before or after salvation, as Romans clearly lays out for us. Please prayerfully reread Romans and you will see this. Galatians 3:28 is speaking about there being no distinction in how each is saved, NOT talking about all distinctions ceasing altogether, or that would mean that the distinctions between men and women would cease to exist also, which clearly cannot be true.
It's very sad how Isreal is, once again, not heading the ancient prophets. I can't imagine why Elijah would say to them, if he were alive today! God's covenant with Isreal has always allowed them to remain, IF they act in their vocation to be a light to all nations. The history of modern Isreal's founding really isn't great--but it was foretold by the prophets--against inhuman odds. And what we intend for evil, God can intend for good. Keep Isreal in our prayers, so God will bless them. Imagine what the world could look like if Isreal repents from its current sin. Christendom has failed just as much. We've responded to the Jews with evil, as soon as we gained power--and we propped up the modern state under imperialist pretensions. But Mike's message reminds us there is hope.
I like how "eschatologically" and "dealio" are used moments apart. Really though, this message has been an encouragment to me. I first watched it a while back and still think about the story of Elijah mentioned. The encouragment was timely.
Based on what I currently understand, I believe that the two witnesses in Revelation are Enoch and Elijah. Thinking of Elijah as having unfinished business adds some drama to my imagined idea of how those three and a half years go. Enoch is there because he was so successful in his walk with God that God took him up. Elijah is there because he wanted an exit ramp and God granted it. ❤️ It has a touch of tragedy and redemption in it.
'For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed'(Romans 9) 'And if you are Christ’s, Then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the Promise' (Galatians 3:29)
What I believe and preach is not a replacement theology it is completion theology. According to Ephesians 3 God has always had an eternal plan a singular plan to create the church the body and bride of His son. Made up from all who believe on Jesus both Jew and non Jew. In Christ's body God took away the deciding wall and created ONE NEW MAN. There is only ONE kingdom and one purpose. The mercy seat is a type. Right where the presence of God abides we see two heavenly creatures but they are actually ONE HAMMERED WORK. THATS ONE. Study to show yourself approved able to RIGHTLY devide! It is a mystery only revealed by the Spirit!!
The Jewish people are not Israelites. Their words. Actually it's very well documented by them. Why do Christians ignore it? What makes more sense considering who is really the Israel of scripture? People who say they are Jews, but spit when they hear the name of Jesus Christ. or People who, if they have had any religion at all for the past almost 2000 years, have been Christians and have fulfilled every prophecy intended for Israel. Christ did not fail. Romans 11:1-2, John 10:27
The Catholic position is that initial justification (Born-Again, Baptism) does not require works. This was stated in Trent and should not be controversial. The Protestant version of "justification" is the equivalent event as the Catholic "initial justification". In these two events, the theology is the same. However, the Protestant error is ignoring the requirements for final justification at death outlined by the scriptures: the sacraments, love, obedience, confession of sins, and works. These requirements are not necessary for initial justification, nor do they save on their own. They are mandatory but not sufficient for final justification. Romans 11:6 only refers to initial justification. Should there be even one requirement in scripture for justification outside of faith alone, the doctrine falls.
Agreed about Israel but what makes us think that a man made State of Israel is equivalent to the Biblical Israel? Just a question y'all. If Israel refers to anyone who calls themselves Jewish I think we missed the plot but if it refers to those descended from Israel (Jacob) then I agree...and i dont think its necessarily the people in modern day Israel...
The answer is No, God has not cast away 'His People'.. The question is WHO do the Scriptures say are 'His People'?...'Therefore know that Only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham' (Galatians 3:7)...'Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are Not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither,because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Rom 9)....:'And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise' (Gal 3:29)
'For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a New Creature. And as many as walk according to This rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God' (Gal 6:15,16 read in context)
'For he is Not a Jew who is one Outwardly, Nor is circumcision that which is Outward in the Flesh; but he is a Jew who is one Inwardly; and circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God' (Romans 2:28-29)
Exactly replacement theology and it’s finest. No church replace the physical people of Israel nor the physical place or nation Israel smh 🤦🏾♂️ Christianity pulling out all the stop along with the wicked power that be! With their pay theologians and pay pastors and agents put in place to continue to push lies and coverups the true children of Israel to stop them for being a nation but it’s not gonna happen.. Psalms 83:1 (A Song or Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. Psalms 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. Psalms 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. Psalms 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: Psalms 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Psalms 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Psalms 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah. Psalms 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Psalms 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Psalms 83:11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Psalms 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
@@jaysmity7612 you are in The Truth. Halleluyah. ‘’ O Lord, my strength and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto Thee from the ends of the earth and shall say, “Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.”
@SpotterVideo said, 'If the New Covenant was not fulfilled at Calvary, why did the author of the Book of Hebrews use the word "now" in Hebrews 8:6-13, when he quoted Jeremiah 31:31-34 word-for-word? At the end of the passage he revealed the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "old". Me: He didn't say NOW for Israel and Judah. He said NOW for the beginning of Jesus' ministry, Then comma then Jeremiah 31 which would happen 'After Those Days'. After Those Days is probably after these days: "And immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the STARS SHALL FALL FROM HEAVEN, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken; (Hasn't happened yet) 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall ALL THE TRIBES of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming UPON the clouds (Visible) of the heaven, with power and much glory." (Matt. 24:39,40) Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Those better promises preceded Israel. (Genesis 15:4-6) and Paul confirms that in Galatians three. The New Covenant was fulfilled for individual believers but not for 'the house of Israel' and 'the house of Judah', which is still future i.e. 'After Those Days...' (Jer. 31:31-34). What good is it to name these groups and then some Preterist come along and make the Word of God of none effect? All of Israel isn't saved now. In fact they got stomped and judged in A.D. 70. (Ro. 16:20; 1 Thess. 2:14-17) "They shall know me from the least to the greatest..." (Jer. 31) This hasn't happened. Jesus' ministry began when He rose and ascended and sat at the right hand of God the Father. "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool... 4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek." (Ps. 110) The New Covenant is for whosoever will but the New Covenant will be irresistibly applied to Israel and Judah in the end. " Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, and with the HOUSE OF JUDAH: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL; AFTER THOSE DAYS, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: FOR THEY ALL SHALL KNOW ME, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." (Jer. 31:31-34)
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
Thank you, Mike, for sharing this. I have to say I'm quite taken back by your name-calling that anyone who disagrees with one interpretation of scripture must then be an anti-Semite. I think first we need to understand what that word means and realise the danger of throwing that around. Let me preface this by saying, I love the Jewish people. I love the people of Israel. I also love the people of Australia, and Canada, and Palestine, and China, and Russia, and everyone else. Just as hatred of a people is unChrist-like, unfair favouritism toward a people can also be unChrist-like. During your message, you referred to Jews and the people of Israel as though they are one and the same. This is incorrect. You also stated that God will still fulfil His promises with Israel as though: 1. God still hasn't fulfilled His promises 2. God's promises were with modern Israel as opposed to the Jewish people 3. God's promises did not come with the condition that the people follow His commandments Often, the position that every person in Israel will be saved is assumed outside of salvation through Christ. This is unbiblical. There is no salvation outside of Christ. He is the one way, the one truth and the one life. No one comes to the Father except through Him. Also, whenever we quote Paul mentioning Israel, why is it that we neglect to call up Romans 2 or Romans 9 or the majority of Romans 11? Paul spends so much of this letter stating that a real Jew is not one who is a Jew outwardly, not one who is a Jew by inheritance but one who is a Jew by faith. In fact, Paul calls faithful Gentiles the true Jews in Romans 2, and again in Romans 9, after saying "For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel", he says the truth children of Abraham are not ones by descent but those by promise. Pay special attention to the beginning of Romans 9:6, "But it is not as though the word of God has failed..." and yet we still say, "God's promises will fail unless..." No, not at all. Why? Paul continues as I already said above, "For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel". Romans 11, before Paul says, "therefore all Israel will be saved", he spends 25 verses saying that the truth Israel, those in the true tree, are both Jews and Gentiles who have been grafted in. How then do we still say, after Paul spends 10 and a half chapters in his letters discussing various topics especially regarding this, that everyone in Israel will be saved no matter what. I would love to have a chat with you. I believe you to be rational and faithful. I know that some will attack me for my views and I'm fine with that. I guess by some people's standards, even Paul the Apostle is an anti-Semite since he didn't believe every Israelite is a true Jew. Also, as an Arab, I cannot be an anti-Semite. I am a Semite too unless, of course, I'm anti-myself. Please, let's talk.
God is bringing the Jews to the gospel. Your views are shaded against them ,many have come to Christ. Many more will , there is anti Jewish sentiment shading many opinions. It’s not name calling
@@richardhaddadau thank you Brother, we love you so very much and Christ loves you even more 🙌 The Lord has shown me the same He has shown you, and He has used your comment to confirm The Truth, I am very grateful 🙌 love you Brother we will be together with our Brethren in Christ in complete unity soon in God's perfect timing. We love you 💜🙌☀️
JESUS says "My kingdom is not of this world" that means if you recognize an earthly israel in the modern day let alone support and fund.. You know the kingdom of GOD from a doorknob.
My understanding is that most of today's Jews follow the Talmud and not the Torah as their main book. Until recently they had followed the Talmud and had disregarded the Torah. Look it up on the wikipedia article about the Talmud. They have a book which they study and revere more than the old testament, yet we Christians keep viewing them as being the original Jews from the bible who follow the old testament, as if they have not changed since then. I think they should have a different name today, Talmudians or something like that. They are not God's chosen people, they are not Israel. I am honestly struggling understanding your take on this, and many others'.
I'm not sure about the ethnicity aspect, but Judaism has always been concerned with continuity of bloodline and not being very "evangelical". The modern state was called together under dark, imperialist impulses. But what "man intends for evil, God can intend for good". But also agreed. After their failure to recognize Jesus, as foretold in Daniel and as Jesus literally told them, the temple would be destroyed--which meant that they couldn't practice Torah. There's a lot of God inspired material in the Talmud, but it's a mixed bag (I'd frankly say that about even the Old Testament though--I do think the Jews occasionally confused national zealotry and put words in God's mouth (like the slaughter of the Cannanites). It's fascinating. Because there were so many convincing signs of the messiah coming in the first century (Daniel 9 in particular), and they forsook Jesus) they reasoned that some other REAL military messiah head to be on their side--which is exactly what lead to the destruction of the temple and dispersion of the people. But the continued existence of the Jews is literally miraculous--no other people continue to preserve continued for 3,000 years. It's an open question whether Isreal was formed under proper conditions. Oh strongly wish Elijah would be alive today! But as Christ said, the only future sign would be the sign of Jonah--Jesus. But as Pastor Mike rightly insists, as Paul insisted, God will never forsake His chosen people. And frankly, until the Christian world--also falling because we too are failing our calling as the spiritual Isreal--play a strong part in God's plan to redeem Isreal. So I pray for Isreal, even though I know Jeremiah and Elijah would have only the harshest things to say about today's Isreal.
Thanks for the teaching today great stuff. My question today is I hear you talk about religion that offers grace plus work or just works and I never hear you mention adventist. Seventh day adventist is a grace plus works religion, there is a lot of stuff that they have to do like keeping the sabath, not eating pork etc. They don't even believe the Jesus work for our salvation is over, they believe he is in the second phase of that right now. They believe Jesus is not seating at God's right hand but he is actually working in the heavenly sanctuary (literal) if they sin that sanctuary gets stain with blood and Jesus has to clean it. They don't really believe or teach from the Bible it's all E.G.White teachings the bible is like reference to them. I mean they are a cult it's the same notion as the JW their church is the only true church and you have to be apart of it to get into the kingdom. They just more subtle. So why don't you include them in false religion? That religion has a lot of unbiblical theology.
no Mike God did not cast away Israel : whole Israel can be saved by accepting Gods means of salvation : His son Jesus Christ . But does that anything have to do with the country Israel? the bible says no . There is a spiritual Israel : galatians 4 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. so the attentions paid to Israel will lead to dissappointment . see all the scripture Mike: acts 10 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. wol.jw.org/nl/wol/dsync/r18/lp-o/r1/lp-e/1102009052#h=1-1 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 1Kings 19 13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah? 14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. 15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria: 16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room. 17 And it shall come to pass, that him that escapeth the sword of Hazael shall Jehu slay: and him that escapeth from the sword of Jehu shall Elisha slay. 18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him. only those that stayed loyal BY FAITH IN JEHOVAH were the true worshippers and not the entire nation.
There isn't any spiritual israel. There is only the church and Israel. There is only two race, Gentile and jews. This is exactly what replacement theology. Disciples even asked jesus when the nation of Israel will be restored. They referring to their nation not the church. So God has a plan in restoration
In the Bible, racial Jews (better rendered Judahites) are Israelites, but Israelites are not always Judahites. Designating all Israelites as Judahites would be the same as labeling all Americans Nebraskans. Most Nebraskans are Americans, but not all Americans are Nebraskans. The same is true of the term “Jews” as used in the Bible. The Bible does not use the term “Jews” when referring collectively to Jacob’s twelve sons or to their descendants who became the twelve tribes of Israel for the simple reason that not all Israelites were descended from the tribe, or kingdom, of Judah. This error has led to many mistakes in biblical interpretation and eschatology. The earliest date that the term “Judahite” could be legitimately assigned to anyone would have been at the birth of Judah’s children. Therefore, it is improper to identify Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or any of Jacob’s other eleven sons as Judahites or Jews. To label Abraham as a Judahite would mean that all of his descendants, including his first born son Ishmael, the progenitor of today’s Arabs, would be Judahites. In short, if Abraham was a Judahite, then today’s Arabs would be Judahites. Moreover, it is improper to call Abraham an Israelite. The first Israelites were the children of his grandson Jacob whose name was changed to Israel. Abraham is properly identified in Genesis 14:13 as a Hebrew. The Bible clearly identifies the people known as Jews or Judahites. At the time of Solomon’s son King Rehoboam, the nation of Israel consisted of twelve tribes that divided into two houses - the house of Judah and the house of Israel. 1 Kings 12 details this division. Only the people of the house of Judah became known as Jews, as rendered in our English versions of the Bible. The first appearance of the word “Jew” in the Bible is found in 2 Kings 16:6, and it occurs after the two houses separated. From this point forward, the Bible uses the word “Jews” exclusively for descendants of the tribe of Judah or the citizens of the southern kingdom or house of Judah. The only exceptions are found in Esther 8:17, Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 where non-Israelites assumed the name and/or religion of the house of Judah and became known as Judahites.
Winger is not a good expositor; he is an articulate and eloquent speaker with a bit too much confidence in himself. It’s a shame there are so many without a solid foundation in the historic, orthodox Christian faith who are all too willing to be mislead by errors, convincingly presented.
When Jesus gave the rebukes to the pharisees and the scribes, He was talking to the most holy and prepared people. They stand in for all of us. We are acting like we would have done better, EXACTLY what Jesus told His Jewish audience in Mattew 23. Christendom scapegoated the Jews for the last 1500 years because of not getting this. It is our job to love our enemies, and until the Christian world starts being Christ-like, how do we expect them to sincerely hear the gospel? Because it hasn't been good news for them. "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." We HAVE the messiah, and He's told us how to help Isreal and bring them to Him. We are causing them to stumble, for our own selfish desire to cling onto God's promises alone. The Jews have *miraculously* continued to exist for 3000 years. God must be with them still, even if Elijah and Jeremiah would come down SOO hard on modern Isreal for their current behavior. Just as always happened, they will be exiled again if they refuse to turn to God--but having the gospel, our failures are now causing them to stumble. All of us need to repent. Even if you disagree, and only see them as irredeemable Christ-killers, it doesn't matter--we are not true inheritors of the gospel unless we pray for our enemies.
"There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 FOR THERE IS NO PARITALITY WITH GOD." (Romans 2)
The scripture is talking about the nation of Israel, jews. If you are ask8ng this then you considered replacement theology. That theology is unbiblical and incorrect. The first half of the book of acts. Everytime they refer to israel, they meant the Israel. When disciples asked Jesus about the condition of the restoration of Israel. They were asking in the context of jews not the church. We are not part of Israel but of the church
@@wryannevanornum I DON'T believe in replacement theology at all. I am glad, however, that you answered that my Elohim was indeed speaking to Yisrael and NOT the Church. I guess my question is: "WHO IS ISRAEL, AND WHERE THEY, NOW???
@@yahbarrahyisrael1921 There is a faithful remanant Israel called the messianic jews... When you look at the disciples and the early christ follower gathering, they were all jewish.
@@yahbarrahyisrael1921 It's "genetic Europeans" and the scales are slowly being removed from their eyes as the fake Israelites of Gog and Magog increase their attacks on God's saints. We are in the midst of Rev 20:8 as we speak.
Leigh Covey However spiritual Israel is Jew and Gentile. Spiritual Israel will be made up of all of God’s children. So peoples understanding of Israel 🇮🇱 seems to be very flawed and distorted. You will not see this ✡️🇮🇱 in Heaven. This is pagan and void of God. Who ever comes out of literal, temporal Israel will have to be born again. Have a circumcision of the heart and yes that is a spiritual transformation. In other words the covenant made with Abraham is about Jesus Christ. It has always been a type in the shadow leading to the promise of Messiah which is Jesus Christ. People seem to miss this very crucial but key point to salvation.
Modern day Jews base their faith and fanatism on the BabylonianTalmud not on the Bible, even though they supposedly uphold the first 5 books of the OT. They muddy the waters to deceive. Jesus spoke of the "synagogue of satan" for good reason.
Will Rodgers Will Rodgers yes you get it and understand. This is rare for so few understand the GREAT DECEPTION. That yes there are Jews in temporal Israel but not all Israel are made up of Jews. As well Judaism ✡️ is not blessed by God but cursed by God. Judaism is based off of the Babylonian Talmudic mystery religion which is pagan as you have already said. Founded on the Babylonian Talmud and the Kabbalah. Clearly this world is VERY deceived and that deception is founded in the Kabbalah which is found world wide in both Judaism and most modern Christianity. To be clear I am a Christian but have no denomination and have searched with an honest heart ALL of them. God lead me out of every last one with great power and purpose. All I found were organized churches corrupted by the teachings and founded on the roots of the kabbalistic teachings of the ancients. For this is pagan or Lucifer hiding in plain sight and most people in churches today 75%-90% or more are asleep 😴💤💤💤 to the God of Abraham the Great I AM. To be honest men act like woman and woman act like men and the warning and message of Jesus Christ is lost in a sea of mixed messages and false doctrines. The men bend so not to offend and bring unity not Gods Truth that is meant for the temporal body to reflect, so that a spiritual circumcision can take place. A true transformation of the heart, what is known as a inwardly circumcision. But I say Jesus did not come to bring UNITY to this lost world but a sword. The sword of TRUTH and it will cleave away the wheat from The tares, the righteous from the wicked, the living 🕊 from the dead 💀.
Hi Mark, this is actually my husbands tag, I am Nin, I too have been through the mill, leaving the apostate religious system about 10 years ago, although only becoming more aware about how manipulated the whole world system is over the last 2-3 years. I have found that apostasywatch.com has been very helpful to me (although you have to always use discernment with every site) also on youtube one of my go to sites is activist-news 2, or activist news australia. (Not just because he is australian - but I think because he appears to want to be honest and biblically sound). He is also on bitchute. His last 3 vids cover a lot of stuff that you have mentioned. I also check out James Perloffs website as well. I hope you get all this info. Regards
How is it you are more righteous in your ministry than a JW in his? Matthew 7:1-3 .Stop judging that you may not be judged; 2 for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you. By who's name are we saved? What is the will of the Almighty for his servants? Matthew 7:21 .Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
I believe he was referring to works. J.W. and Mormons believe more in a works base system of salvation than the Holy Bible and you are right, we should not judge them but should call anyone out that is against the gospel and try to spiritually restore them as Gal.6:1 suggest. I have met some wonderful J.W. around my area. We just have some textual disagreements and need to be honest with one another in our beliefs with love.
I think it's funny when you ignore the scriptures That go against your narrative Like the fact that when They were baptized in the Holy Spirit They started speaking in tongues tons which is how they knew they knew they were baptized and the Holy Spirit hes only spirit Which was evidence on them being saved
I am astonished to find Mike Winger, bringing up the question" has God forsaken Israel?" when history shows that God did indeed forsake Israel on many an occasion in ancient times.
@@leahbergstedt7444 Hope springs eternal, however where reality is concerned Israel was abandoned by God when his Holy City was sacked by the Roman army in AD 70. Did not God promise that a king would always sit on the throne of the kingdom of Israel. But there is no throne or kingdom, they have long disappeared.
Garbage.. Deuteronomy 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: 28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Hearing self-professed Christians simping for the people who murdered the savor, then went on and invented a man-made religion after the destruction of the temple makes me sick to my stomach.
I hope you’ll consider really listening to the study. Or reading Romans 10-11 on your own to see two things. The attitude we should have toward Jews and the hope for spiritual revival for them. Imagine Jesus hating the people He died for. Imagine Paul the apostle being rejected because he persecuted Christians before being saved. Imagine Jonah, who despised a group of people so much that he was angry when they were saved.
@Ísleifur Helgason Please, read the bible and take all things into context. Jesus was NOT murdered, he was a WILLING SACRIFICE. The Jews replied "crucify him" referring to Jesus, and the Romans carried out the crucifixion. But it was on Jesus terms. Time and again Jesus told his followers that he would be crucified and would rise again. Even Jewish leaders Matthew 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate. 63 “Sir,” they said, “we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’
What I find most ridiculous about your false teaching, is the virtual complete lack of relevant verse.. No, Jesus was a Judean, the term "Jew" is from the 16th century..
So wrong. Israel is not the nation it is the people of GOD. Some jews believe and seek GOD but are blinded because of self righteousness. GOD will humble them at the end as all (2/3) except the remnant (1/3) are killed and them Jesus will appear (ZECH 12.10) and save them all as they are broken like Paul was broken because they hated/persecuted the very GOD they sought to please.
Psalms 83:1 (A Song or Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. Psalms 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. Psalms 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. Psalms 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: Psalms 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Psalms 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Psalms 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah. Psalms 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Psalms 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Psalms 83:11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Psalms 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
John quoted the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10 at Calvary in the verses below. Joh 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. Joh 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. Joh 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Joh 19:37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced. Was the Spirit poured out in Jerusalem, and did about 3,000 from "all the house of Israel" (Acts 2:36) mourn for the one they had seen pierced a few weeks earlier? In the parable of the virgins from Matthew 25:1-13 Jesus said they must be ready before the bridegroom comes. In 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 Paul said Christ returns "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God and obey the Gospel. Do the passages above indicate a second chance at salvation on the day of his Second Coming?
Paul was no faithful Jew as he claims to be. He is what you, Mike, call an apostate. A Jew who starts a new religion that opposes the world view of the Hebrew Bible is an apostate. Or a Jew who accepts another religion that is not Torah Judaism is an apostate. Of course we pray every day for these folks to return to G-d and certainly one day they will, with G-d’s help.
All you have to do Danny is believe that Jesus is messiah, was killed on the cross, and arose on the 3rd day to wipe out all of our sins. He is the savior and only way to God is through him.
Based on what I currently understand, I believe that the two witnesses in Revelation are Enoch and Elijah. Thinking of Elijah as having unfinished business adds some drama to my imagined idea of how those three and a half years go. Enoch is there because he was so successful in his walk with God that God took him up. Elijah is there because he wanted an exit ramp and God granted it. ❤️ It has a touch of tragedy and redemption in it.
Listening this in 2021 the craziest season of our history. It's comforting to know that God has a plan always, He's at work
Dude! I am listening to this now, 2022, wondering how much crazier things can get! Trusting God and looking for the blessed hope of Titus 2:13. Maranatha!
Same at the end of 2023 😅😂
Andddd half the world is at war it's April 2024.
June 2024. Wars and rumors of wars.
@@Justin-ShalaJChalf the world? not even brother
"As far as the gospel is concerned, they (Israel) are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable." (Romans 11)
This does not apply to star of Saturn/Moloch worshipers..
He was talking about proto-Judaists. The modern Judaists of today ARE NOT Israel.
There is a continuance in this, those in Christ are Israel, those descending from the old Israel (most of whom are now Christian or Muslim) can be grafted in back, though.
'For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a New Creature.
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God' (Gal 6:15,16 read in context)
Yes, there is only 1 Israel, the Israel of God ..and if Israel,after the flesh, repent they shall be grafted in again ...'Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are Not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Neither,because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Rom 9)....:'And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise' (Gal 3:29)
'For he is Not a Jew who is one Outwardly, Nor is circumcision that which is Outward in the Flesh; but he is a Jew who is one Inwardly; and circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God' (Romans 2:28-29)
Odd in Roman's there are two different types of Israel spoken of. The physical and the spiritual.
If God is not a respecter of person, and each individual is responsible for their own salvation, then a physical nation is NOT the people of God. Which also makes sense if you apply Jesus Christ to Israel. No one comes to the father except through Jesus.
They Physical nation rejected Christ therefore they do not have the father! Which points back to Israel is a spiritual people of God!!
Amen and Amen! ..'In the Lord shall all the Seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory' (Isaiah 45:25)....'For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed'(Romans 9)
'And if you are Christ’s, Then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the Promise' (Galatians 3:29)
That was a very powerful teaching Mike. You really made the story of Elijah come to life for me. I had never really connected that fact that God 'took' him because he wanted out!! That really shows the incredible love and compassion of Yahweh. Very beautiful.😊
I've never thought about this before either! Incredible.
This was such a timely message. Oh man! I've been so discouraged. I see God's sovereignty and holiness and also his grace and love toward those who are discouraged and depressed. Wow!
So many "Christians" ignoring the scriptures and spouting anti-semitic jargon
You don't have a clue of what you're talking about.
@@yahbarrahyisrael1921 Oh I do.
This is such an important concept. I always have had respect for Israel and Israelites.
Why?
Why are you asking why? The Bible has the answer.
Toda Raba (thank you!)
@@aeh3253 You have no idea what you are talking about..
Matthew 3:7-10.. Judaizing deceiver..
It's crazy I'm listening to this 6 years later (2023) after the major attack on Isreal.
Really appreciate you brother Mike!!
The attack is the opposite way around
Praise the Lord for your understanding of Scripture. Be encouraged in the Lord and I pray that you'll grow in the love and knowledge of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour.
Understand this.. Matthew 8:11-12
@@MrSparkumswhat does but the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside? Can you explain 11 and 12 please
Sadly, there are people who deny the jewishness of Jesus... they use contradictions in Scripture to deny His jewish roots and focus only on the verses they like in the New Testament, while also rejecting the Old Testament altogether. 🤷🏻♀
Ik thats what I was thinking. It's like thy forgot that JESUS WAS A JEW. Like come on? Jesus was the very Jewish person of all the bible. The most holy Jew of all. God's own son
Judaism died in the Cross with Christ but only Christ resurected
@@tacopancho2166 its true, but that doesn't take away the fact that He was a jew, born among jews, in judaic culture initiated by Moses, under the instructions of God.
This was so encouraging and convicting - trusting God even when we are overwhelmed in the midst of our calling. Thank you Mike!
I kind want to peak behind the curtain of the spiritual realm when Elijah was challenging the priests of Baal. Also, listening the day after the horrible school shooting in TX. What encouragement God's word is!
WHO IS A JEW IN GODS EYES?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Compare These Verses of Scripture from the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Old Testament (Nation of Israel)
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, IF ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo_19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
We know that they did NOT obey God's Voice and they rejected Jesus so Jesus said to them.
Mat_21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof.
What nation was Jesus talking about?
Peter while writing to Christians wrote.
New Testament (Nation of Israel)
1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Peter is referring to is the same nation Jesus was talking about in Matthew 21:43
The nation of Israel we see today is a Satanic counterfeit
The nation born in one day has not been born yet.
Jesus is drawing out a people for his name out of every nation to establish the true Israel of God.
Then we have Galatians 6:16 and Revelation 2:9 and 3:9
Gal_3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
God originally made a covenant with Abraham and Peter says in 2 Peter chapter 3 verse 9 that the Lord is not slow in keeping his promise and he does not want any one to perish but for everyone to come to repentance.
I needed this reminder of how Great God is in the midst of our discouraging times 😊
A covenant involves two parties and is made on the understanding that each party will honor the covenant. God will "cast you off" should you also reject your covenant. It's made quite clear what happened with the old covenant...There is neither jew nor gentile.
The remnant Paul's is talking about are the Jews that came out of the great tribulation, which reached fulfillment in 70AD. the Mosaic Covenant is no more (Eph. 2:14-15, Acts 15, and Heb. 8). No need for a 3rd temple or animal sacrifices. God has one people. You are either in Christ or you are not.
He is a flat our lying deceiver.. Matthew 8:11-12
@@MrSparkums Ahh yes. The satanic jew and his claims Paul was a false apostle. If Paul is a false apostle then Christ is not God since he chose Saul personally from Heaven to preach to the LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL aka EUROPEANS and bring them back to his flock.
Listening to this in 2023 (Nisan 11, 5783). This is an excellent message that my SDA family need to hear.
I have appreciated Mike Wingers honest and exhaustive research on God's Word. I like that he is not biased and usually realizes that not all doctrines need to be dogmatic. Tulip/Calvin might have some points but also has flaws or wrong doctrine. I am even more encouraged today because he did take a stand and separated the truth from myth. Taco Bell is not authentic Mexican food, it is one or the other. Replacement theology is wrong. Prosperity movement is wrong. Thank you Mike, for not compromising even when many people can be offended. :)
He is a blatant liar.. Paul is not of the tribe of Judah..
You’re sadly mistaken. Winger isn’t a good expositor; he’s just an eloquent and convincing speaker. If you don’t have a good foundation in the historic Christian faith, you’ll fall into this kind of error whenever an articulate, persuasive person opens their mouth to teach. Shame.
@@matthewdyer2926 interesting. Can you please share your born again testimony? I would like to know when you were forgiven of your sins and converted to a child of God .
@@MrSparkums Do you have a born again testimony? When were you saved, forgiven of your sins and became a child of God?
@@TOBYD7 What you just did is called “deflection”. It’s a logical fallacy of distraction employed for the purpose of avoiding engagement when you lack a good argument. Props to you for dressing it quite piously, though!
Grace is (undeserved) kindness. All works doctrine is a contradiction.
Romans 10:9-10🙏
John 3:16-21 💝
Psalm 121 1
My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.
32:22 needs to be a clip! So encouraging!
Psalm 121 1
My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.
Israel is important for God. We the Church are the true Israel.
We love Jesus. Judaism hates Jesus.
Another great study Mike ,Thank you ,God is using you 🆙 Thanks for ur obedience to him...☑️
Matthew 8:11-12
but Israel HAS forsaken God. There is no such thing as an "unbreakable Covenant." Covenants are always unbreakable by God. But a covenant by definition requires TWO parties. If one of them departs from the terms, there must be a New Covenant--the Old one, including the land and nation promises are not valid. But we can come through the blood of Messiah and Join His Kingdom and Covenant. Hebrews Ch 11 spells this out, as does Galatians Ch 3.
"13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and SAVE SOME OF THEM (PRESENTLY). ...23 And they also, IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE IN THEIR UNBELIEF, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 FOR I DO NOT WANT YOU, BRETHREN, TO BE UNINFORMED OF THIS MYSTERY-so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-that A PARTIAL HARDENING HAS HAPPENED TO ISRAEL (PRESENTLY) UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED (FUTURE ISRAEL); just as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.”
(FUTURE)
27 “This is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”
(FUTURE ISRAEL)
28 From the standpoint of THE GOSPEL THEY ARE ENEMIES for your sake, but from the standpoint of GOD'S CHOICE THEY ARE BELOVED for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32 For God has shut up ALL IN DISOBEDIENCE SO THAT HE MAY SHOW MERCY TO ALL." (Romans 11)
Dispensational Claim: God will go back and deal with Israel after the “times of the Gentiles” is completed.
The “times of the Gentiles” is referred to in Luke 21:24, and Romans 11:25, and eluded to indirectly in Acts 28:28. When does the time of the Gentiles come to fullness based on the words of Christ below? Almost all Bible scholars agree that the first part of Luke 21:24 is about the destruction of Jerusalem during 70 AD. The times of the Gentiles are fulfilled after that event.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Based on the words of Christ found above, the “times of the Gentiles” comes to fullness at the future Second Coming of Christ. This fact kills the Dispensational claim found above. Some claim the times of the Gentiles ended during 1948 when the modern State of Israel came into being. What does Paul say below about the times of the Gentiles?
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Did the spiritual blindness of all the Israelites end during 1948?
No.
Claim: Romans 11 proves National Israel will be saved in the future.
I have heard both John MacArthur, and John Hagee make the following statement…
“And then all Israel will be saved.” (Also found on page 349 of the book “Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty” by the Jesuit, Manuel Lacunza “Ben Ezra”.)
Both MacArthur, and Hagee, are selectively quoting from the verse below in an attempt to make Dispensational Theology work. Have they changed the meaning of the verse?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
These men have changed the word “so”, which is an adverb of manner, into the word “then”, which is an adverb of timing.
What is the “manner” of salvation in the passage? It is in the preceding verses found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
In Romans chapter 11 the Apostle Paul uses the Olive Tree as a symbol of the New Covenant Church, made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles, grafted together into the same tree. In the two verses above the unbelievers can be grafted back into the tree through faith in Christ. Paul provides no path to salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in the passage.
Is the “covenant” in verse 27 a future covenant with the modern State of Israel, or is it the New Covenant fulfilled for all races of people by the blood of Christ at Calvary? In order to answer this question we need to know who is “Israel”, as defined by Paul, earlier in the same letter to the Romans. What did Paul say below about “Israel” in Romans chapter 9?
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: (All Israelites are not a part of faithful Israel.)
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
(Being a physical Israelite does not make a person a part of Israel of the promise.)
Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
(Only a “remnant” of Israelites shall be saved.)
Based on the verses above from Romans 9 Paul was describing the “manner” of how Israelites would be saved in Romans 11:26, instead of the timing of their salvation.
The verse below is also often used by Dispensationalists in an attempt to make their doctrine work. Dispensationalists often insist an Israelite can be an enemy of God, and the elect at the same time.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Throughout Romans chapter 11 the Apostle Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites, one faithful, and one not faithful. Paul begins the chapter this way is Romans 11:1-5, by describing the Israelites who were Baal worshippers, in contrast to the faithful “remnant”, during the time of Elijah. Paul said there was also a faithful “remnant” during his time. Therefore, based on Romans 11:1-5, there are two different groups of Israelites in Romans 11:28. The Israelites who rejected Christ were the “they” who are the enemies of God, while the group of “they” who accepted Christ are the “election”. Paul ends the passage in the same way that he began the passage, with two different groups of Israelites.
Claim: God has blinded Israel during the “Church Age”.
This claim also comes from Romans 11.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Have all of the Israelites been “partially” blinded, as Dispensationalists infer, or has part of Israel been blinded, and part of Israel has not been blinded? The answer is found in the “remnant” of Romans 11:5.
The only way to make Romans 11 match the Dispesationalists doctrine is by changing words in the passage, and by ignoring the earlier context of the passage, and by ignoring who is “Israel” in Romans 9.
@@SpotterVideo Spotter, your answer below sounds like Preterism which is a cookie cutter with a lot of leftovers.
Most scholars don't agree on anything. That is why scripture in context is the only thing that is important here.
It doesn't naturally follow that the Destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 is quickly followed by the fullness of the Gentiles.
In that time period every eye didn't see Jesus nor did it see suffering unequaled since nor the starts falling from heaven. (Mt. 24)
That will be in the future. The Holocaust was worse than A.D. 70.
In the Luke reference Jesus comes IN (ev) a cloud. In the Matthew reference He comes on (epi) a cloud and every eye shall see Him. One may be speaking of A.D. 70 while Matt is speaking of the future when the stars will fall from heaven.
"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn WHEN THEY SEE the Son of Man coming ON the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." (Matt. 24:30)
"Look, he is coming WITH (Meta) the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”So shall it be! Amen." (Rev. 1)
Both John and Matthew refer to Jesus coming visibly, not IN a cloud as in Luke which probably describes A.D. 70
Two separate events. Also Zechariah 12:10 validates the time when every eye shall see Him. The Matthew reference is still future.
Matthew also says, 'Immediately after the Tribulation of those days...'
I don't know of any Dispies that claim that Israel's blindness ended in 1948. Sounds like a strawman to me.
No one in A.D. 70 saw:
1) The stars falling from heaven. (Mt. 24)
2) Unequaled suffering (Matt. 24)
3) Everyone seeing Him on the clouds.
Everyone wants to claim the evil Jesuits are behind everything they don't agree with. I can do that too.
The Unmitigated Twaddle of Jesuit-Romanist Preterism
By Ron Cooke Date Posted: 8/3/2001
"Preterism was first advanced in 1604 by Jesuit Luis de Alcasar to destroy the Reformed Protestant teaching that the papacy was Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore and the historical Antichrist."
Also the manner and timing of Israel i.e., 'Jacob's' salvation is defined in the verse that follows in Romans eleven.
" 26 and IN THIS WAY ALL Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from JACOB.
27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” (Romans 11)
All Israel i.e., 'Jacob' wasn't saved in or shortly after A.D. 70. If it meant incorporated into the church, all of Jacob would have been saved.
Speaking of Manner, Acts 1:11 tells us the manner of Jesus' visible Second Coming.
"Men of Galilee,' they said, 'why do you stand here looking into the sky? This SAME JESUS, who has been taken from you into heaven, will COME BACK IN THE SAME WAY you have seen him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:11)
He was visible when He lifted off, He will be visible when He Comes back to the Mount of Olives.
This didn't happen in A.D. 70 either.
The Olive tree reference is a reference to the present when INDIVIDUAL Jews and Gentiles believe and become the seed of Abe (not Jacob) which is Christ,
The future is still when 'Jacob' as a whole is irresistibly saved as a nation.
"when I will make a new covenant with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL and with the HOUSE OF JUDAH..." (Eze. 31:31b)
Not assimilate some individual Jews into the church
Presently, Individually placed in Christ through faith.
"For you are all sons of God through FAITH IN CHRIST Jesus.
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28 There is NEITHER JEW NO GREEK, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.
29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are ABRAHAM'S (Not Jacobs) DESCENDANTS, heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:26-28)
The Olive Tree is Abraham and Christ.
The promise is to Abe from the Word in Genesis before there was even an Israel. (Gen. 15:4-6)
A.D. 70 continuing on to even now:
" 22 because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.(When the Fullness of the Gentiles has come)
23 "Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; (A.D. 70 but not unequaled like Matthew 24)
24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles UNTIL the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.(Still happening)
25 "There will be signs in sun and moon and stars (Happened and will happen but no stars falling yet), and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves,
26 men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.(Happened in A.D. 70 but ON the clouds and visible...'every eye'.. still in the future)
28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." (Luke 21)
Future Coming of Christ:
" 21 For then there will be great distress, UNEQUALED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD UNTIL NOW (Hasn't happened...the Holocaust was worse than A.D. 70)-and NEVER TO BE EQUALED AGAIN.... 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (No one saw Jesus in A.D. 70 but they did see chariots)..the stars will fall from the sky....(didn't happen in A.D. 70)...they see the Son of Man coming ON the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.(Didn't happen in A.D. 70..No one saw Jesus ON (Epi) the clouds.)" (Matthew 24)
".Son of man...With the Clouds... " (Daniel 7:12-14)
@@bjmaxwell1862 John quoted the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10 as being fulfilled at Calvary in John 19:37.
The times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ.
The first part of verse 24 is about 70 AD, but the end of the verse reveals the timing of Christ's future Second Coming described in verses 25-28.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Christ was a partial preterist in the Olivet Discourse, because the second temple was destroyed. Christ did not return to planet earth during 70 AD.
@@SpotterVideo Actually, John mentioned part of Zechariah 12:10 as fulfilled but the rest of it wasn't:
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, AND THEY WILL MOURN for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
11 ON THAT DAY the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.
12 THE LAND WILL MOURN, EACH CLAN BY ITSELF, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives,
13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives,
14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives." (Zechariah 12)
All of Israel didn't mourn at Jesus' crucifixion and it didn't happen 'On that day' (the Millennium) which in the book of Zechariah always means the very end, which hasn't happened yet.
Also the same John after Jesus' crucifixion i.e. piercing says in Revelation:
" 7 “Look, he is coming WITH (Meta) the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, 'EVEN THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM'; and ALL PEOPLES ON EARTH 'WILL MOURN BECAUSE OF HIM.' So shall it be! Amen.
8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1)
Here in Revelation after the reference in John Nineteen John tells us that those who pierced him will mourn when He comes back again just as Zechariah twelve predicts.
Though, I do agree with you that, ''Christ did not return to planet earth during 70 AD." That will come in the future when Christ comes ON the clouds and THEN He will touch down and fulfill all the prophecies mentioned in the other gospel accounts.
@@bjmaxwell1862 Are you saying the Spirit was not poured out in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost? Did about 3,000 from "all the house of Israel" (Acts 2:36) mourn for the Messiah they had seen "pierced" a few weeks earlier?
Based on the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18, and the passage below, everyone is going to be resurrected from the dead and judged, even those who caused Him to be pierced.
Mat 12:41 'Men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, for they reformed at the proclamation of Jonah, and lo, a greater than Jonah here!
Mat 12:42 'A queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and lo, a greater than Solomon here!
See also John 5:27-30.
Whoa. When you said that God said to Elijah, "You think you're the only one who follows me? There are 7000 men just like you in your own backyard." That humbled even me! - can't imagine how Elijah's jaw must have dropped.
God hasn't forsaken anybody. A Jew, Muslim, or Christian though must believe Jesus Christ is Messiah and that he died on the cross and arose in 3 days in order to be saved. Now I ll watch your video. If it says anything different then you got it wrong. There is a New Covenant. The body of Christ is Israel. Only one could stand perfect against the law. Jesus is the answer. There will always be a remnant.
Israel is being discussed here not other nations or beliefs .
There is not a single verse that says Church replaced Israel. Church is an extension of Israel..but not replacement. This is not over yet. The bones shall live, in Jesus Mighty Name, Ezekiel 37
One of the points of this sermon was to not lose heart like Elijah and give up the fight. We will reap a harvest if we don't faint
Which of the two Israels in Romans 11:1-5 are you talking about. Some of us do not know the difference between the faithful "remnant", and the Baal worshipers.
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants?
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
God didn’t cast away Israel. All of the Old Testament promises and prophesies are fulfilled or are to be fulfilled in Jesus… not in an independent Jewish state.
Galatians 3 and Roman’s 11 do not teach the idea of a separated chosen people post Christ’s covenant.
This message is beautifully presented; the best presentation I have ever experienced. No shouting, it's brought forth with, knowledge, understanding, wisdom and a calm composure. Thank you my brother.
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
The greatest "Semite" who ever lived was crucified at Calvary for the sin of all races of people. In 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9 Paul warns us against using "genealogies" in our faith. Why? The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Galatians 3:16.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
This was such a blessing to hear today. God’s word is always relevant.
you make excellent videos
Charlie Parks. Indeed. I use to discredited the Jews for killing the messiah until I read Isaiah 53, I then understand it's because of me the messiah has to die:
Isaiah 53:1-12 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 55 vs 6-7…Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked abandon his way, And the unrighteous person his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD (Jesus), And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
I think this verse is about our salvation and resurrection at his coming.
Hosea 6:1 ¶ Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
Peter said,
2Pe 3:8 ¶ But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The two days (two thousand years) would be from Jesus' crucifixion. If he was crucified in 30 AD, His coming would be two thousand years from then. If that is so, His coming would be about 2030. Back that up seven years and you come to 2023 and the confirmation of the covenant. Move ahead three and a half years to 2026 to 27 and you come to the abomination of desolation. Of course the third day would be the millennium reign. If his death and resurrection was in 33 AD just add three years. I think we only have a handful of years before it all comes to pass. The first two verses of Hosea 6 to me are obviously salvation verses. In verse 1 Jesus reconciles us to God by taking our sins to the cross. In verse 2 he returns to resurrect us and receive his kingdom.
The word "revive" and the phrase "shall live" in verse 2 are from this word.
02421. hyx chayah, khaw-yaw'
a primitive root ; to live, whether literally or figuratively; causatively, to revive:--keep (leave, make) alive, X certainly, give (promise) life, nourish up, preserve (alive), quicken, recover, repair, restore (to life), revive, (X God) save (alive, life, lives), X surely, be whole.
If you pronounce the word correctly, maybe it sounds like the breath of life.
"Replacement theology" is one of those disparaging distinctions thrown around to dismiss an idea without debate, like "anti-semite" and "conspiracy theorist." The church is Israel, and is the fulfillment of the promises God made to Adam and Noah and Abraham and Israel and Moses. Not a replacement at all, but a fulfillment and inclusion. The final fulfillment is to be accomplished in the millennial kingdom. His kingdom is not of this world. Any "apparent" fulfillment in this present world is an antichrist counterfeit.
The messianic prophecies were always meant to be fulfilled in the first resurrection and in the millennial kingdom. A remnant is a very small leftover from a much larger whole. All Israel will only be saved in a remnant. The Jewish misunderstanding that the messianic kingdom would be fulfilled in this present time and among the physical nation of Israel was always wrong.
Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Ro 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
All we believers, Jews and Greeks, will be revived and rule with Christ on the third day. There is no "church age". That is not found in the Bible.
Ga 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. This idea people have of separating gentile believers from Jewish believers is unbiblical. Unbelieving Jews won't be saved anyway. Neither will unbelieving gentiles. There is no gentile church. There is only an Israel church with whom gentiles have been blessed to conjunct.
Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Mt 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. John the baptizer
Ga 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but AS OF ONE, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Ga 3:19 ¶ Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, TILL THE SEED SHOULD COME to whom the promise was made;
Lu 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mt 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Ro 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. 27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
The complete fulfillment will be in the first resurrection.
Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
I have to say that I don’t see how you can say that there are no more Jews and Gentiles, because in Romans 11:13, God says through Paul, that Believing Gentiles are STILL GENTILES:-
Romans 11:13 KJVS
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
If you insist that according to Galatians 3:28 there are no more Jews and Gentiles, then you must also say that there are no more Males and Females, for the verse reads that way:-
Galatians 3:28 KJVS
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
So, what the scriptures clearly teach is that the distinctions between Jews and Gentiles, Males and Females make no difference as far as individual salvation is concerned, but it most certainly does NOT teach that ALL distinctions have ceased to exist.
Israel is still God’s chosen nation, until the Sun, Moon, and Stars cease to shine, according to Jeremiah 31:35-37
Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJVS
Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name: [36] If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. [37] Thus saith the Lord ; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
Whilst we are in the times of the Gentiles (Luke 21:24) the time is coming when God will return His attention to the nation of Israel and the Jewish people, just as Paul says in Romans 11:-
Romans 11:25-32 KJVS
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. [30] For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: [31] Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. [32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Clearly this cannot be referring to the Church, because they are already saved and saying that v. 26 refers to the Church makes no sense, because it’s like saying; all who are saved will be saved. (The Church being made up of only those who are saved)
God has PROMISED many things to the Jews that have not been fulfilled as yet, and whilst they still have to go through a time of purging (Zechariah 13:8-9) in which only one third of them will be left, that third will ALL believe and come to salvation, as the text tells us:-
Zechariah 13:8-9 KJVS
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. [9] And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
Paul’s letter to the Romans tells us that Jews remain Jews even after salvation and Gentiles remain Gentiles after salvation, just as Men remain Men after salvation and Women remain Women after salvation.
They are all Abraham’s children in their salvation that comes through faith, but they don’t become non-Jews or non-Gentiles, any more than men become non-men, or women become non-women.
Abraham was NOT a Jew! Neither were Isaac or Jacob.
Only the descendants of Jacob/Israel have that distinction.
Please read these texts through carefully and you will see that this is so.
Blessings.
Yeah, but that doesn’t make a Gentile a Jew, no matter what.
Paul was talking about the difference between faithful Jews and rebellious Jews. He even calls the Believing Roman Gentiles, GENTILES in verse 13 of Romans chapter 11:13
Romans 11:13 KJVS
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
He then goes on to talk to them about their attitude towards unbeliev😅Jews:-
Romans 11:18-25 KJVS
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. [19] Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. [20] Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: [21] For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. [22] Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. [23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. [24] For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? [25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Note well that Paul says that those unbelieving Jews are still owners of the olive tree into which Gentiles have been grafted. (V.24)
Gentiles remain Gentiles and Jews remain Jews, whether before or after salvation, as Romans clearly lays out for us.
Please prayerfully reread Romans and you will see this.
Galatians 3:28 is speaking about there being no distinction in how each is saved, NOT talking about all distinctions ceasing altogether, or that would mean that the distinctions between men and women would cease to exist also, which clearly cannot be true.
It's very sad how Isreal is, once again, not heading the ancient prophets. I can't imagine why Elijah would say to them, if he were alive today! God's covenant with Isreal has always allowed them to remain, IF they act in their vocation to be a light to all nations.
The history of modern Isreal's founding really isn't great--but it was foretold by the prophets--against inhuman odds. And what we intend for evil, God can intend for good. Keep Isreal in our prayers, so God will bless them. Imagine what the world could look like if Isreal repents from its current sin.
Christendom has failed just as much. We've responded to the Jews with evil, as soon as we gained power--and we propped up the modern state under imperialist pretensions. But Mike's message reminds us there is hope.
I like how "eschatologically" and "dealio" are used moments apart.
Really though, this message has been an encouragment to me. I first watched it a while back and still think about the story of Elijah mentioned. The encouragment was timely.
Thanks Pastor Mike
Based on what I currently understand, I believe that the two witnesses in Revelation are Enoch and Elijah. Thinking of Elijah as having unfinished business adds some drama to my imagined idea of how those three and a half years go. Enoch is there because he was so successful in his walk with God that God took him up. Elijah is there because he wanted an exit ramp and God granted it. ❤️ It has a touch of tragedy and redemption in it.
'For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed'(Romans 9)
'And if you are Christ’s, Then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the Promise' (Galatians 3:29)
What a powerful message. I thank you so much
What I believe and preach is not a replacement theology it is completion theology. According to Ephesians 3 God has always had an eternal plan a singular plan to create the church the body and bride of His son. Made up from all who believe on Jesus both Jew and non Jew.
In Christ's body God took away the deciding wall and created ONE NEW MAN. There is only ONE kingdom and one purpose. The mercy seat is a type. Right where the presence of God abides we see two heavenly creatures but they are actually ONE HAMMERED WORK. THATS ONE.
Study to show yourself approved able to RIGHTLY devide! It is a mystery only revealed by the Spirit!!
The Jewish people are not Israelites. Their words. Actually it's very well documented by them. Why do Christians ignore it?
What makes more sense considering who is really the Israel of scripture?
People who say they are Jews, but spit when they hear the name of Jesus Christ.
or
People who, if they have had any religion at all for the past almost
2000 years, have been Christians and have fulfilled every prophecy
intended for Israel. Christ did not fail. Romans 11:1-2, John 10:27
Because cowardly grifters like Winger risk their cash cow if they preach THE TRUTH
The Catholic position is that initial justification (Born-Again, Baptism) does not require works. This was stated in Trent and should not be controversial. The Protestant version of "justification" is the equivalent event as the Catholic "initial justification". In these two events, the theology is the same. However, the Protestant error is ignoring the requirements for final justification at death outlined by the scriptures: the sacraments, love, obedience, confession of sins, and works. These requirements are not necessary for initial justification, nor do they save on their own. They are mandatory but not sufficient for final justification. Romans 11:6 only refers to initial justification. Should there be even one requirement in scripture for justification outside of faith alone, the doctrine falls.
Bravo. I’m over here thinking YEAH!
Agreed about Israel but what makes us think that a man made State of Israel is equivalent to the Biblical Israel? Just a question y'all. If Israel refers to anyone who calls themselves Jewish I think we missed the plot but if it refers to those descended from Israel (Jacob) then I agree...and i dont think its necessarily the people in modern day Israel...
Such a good study on my favourite bible chapter 😁
The answer is No, God has not cast away 'His People'.. The question is WHO do the Scriptures say are 'His People'?...'Therefore know that Only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham' (Galatians 3:7)...'Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are Not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Neither,because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are Not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Rom 9)....:'And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise' (Gal 3:29)
'For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a New Creature.
And as many as walk according to This rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God' (Gal 6:15,16 read in context)
'For he is Not a Jew who is one Outwardly, Nor is circumcision that which is Outward in the Flesh; but he is a Jew who is one Inwardly; and circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God' (Romans 2:28-29)
Great to see how God keeps his promises and has a great plan for Israel.
Amen
God please keep the peace of Jerusalem and please stop the war in Ukraine
Father please stop the war in Israel that Netanyahu declared and over 5,0000 Palestinian children have been murdered.
Wath aboit peace in Russia and Palestine too?
I am a messianic Jew
God is not done with the physical nation of Israel
However, the church and its saints are said to be the new Israel, paul is not referring to them
Where in scripture does it say the Church is the new Israel.
Exactly replacement theology and it’s finest. No church replace the physical people of Israel nor the physical place or nation Israel smh 🤦🏾♂️ Christianity pulling out all the stop along with the wicked power that be! With their pay theologians and pay pastors and agents put in place to continue to push lies and coverups the true children of Israel to stop them for being a nation but it’s not gonna happen..
Psalms 83:1 (A Song or Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
Psalms 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
Psalms 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Psalms 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Psalms 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
Psalms 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
Psalms 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Psalms 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
Psalms 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
Psalms 83:11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
Psalms 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
@@jaysmity7612 you are in The Truth. Halleluyah. ‘’ O Lord, my strength and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto Thee from the ends of the earth and shall say, “Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.”
Fake israhell is from the devil
@SpotterVideo said, 'If the New Covenant was not fulfilled at Calvary, why did the author of the Book of Hebrews use the word "now" in Hebrews 8:6-13, when he quoted Jeremiah 31:31-34 word-for-word? At the end of the passage he revealed the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "old".
Me:
He didn't say NOW for Israel and Judah. He said NOW for the beginning of Jesus' ministry, Then comma then Jeremiah 31 which would happen 'After Those Days'.
After Those Days is probably after these days:
"And immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the STARS SHALL FALL FROM HEAVEN, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken; (Hasn't happened yet)
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall ALL THE TRIBES of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming UPON the clouds (Visible) of the heaven, with power and much glory." (Matt. 24:39,40)
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Those better promises preceded Israel. (Genesis 15:4-6) and Paul confirms that in Galatians three.
The New Covenant was fulfilled for individual believers but not for 'the house of Israel' and 'the house of Judah', which is still future i.e. 'After Those Days...' (Jer. 31:31-34). What good is it to name these groups and then some Preterist come along and make the Word of God of none effect?
All of Israel isn't saved now. In fact they got stomped and judged in A.D. 70. (Ro. 16:20; 1 Thess. 2:14-17)
"They shall know me from the least to the greatest..." (Jer. 31) This hasn't happened.
Jesus' ministry began when He rose and ascended and sat at the right hand of God the Father.
"The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool... 4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek." (Ps. 110)
The New Covenant is for whosoever will but the New Covenant will be irresistibly applied to Israel and Judah in the end.
" Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, and with the HOUSE OF JUDAH:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL; AFTER THOSE DAYS, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: FOR THEY ALL SHALL KNOW ME, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." (Jer. 31:31-34)
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
If God was not doing anything in this world the world would be over.
Thank you, Mike, for sharing this.
I have to say I'm quite taken back by your name-calling that anyone who disagrees with one interpretation of scripture must then be an anti-Semite. I think first we need to understand what that word means and realise the danger of throwing that around.
Let me preface this by saying, I love the Jewish people. I love the people of Israel. I also love the people of Australia, and Canada, and Palestine, and China, and Russia, and everyone else. Just as hatred of a people is unChrist-like, unfair favouritism toward a people can also be unChrist-like.
During your message, you referred to Jews and the people of Israel as though they are one and the same. This is incorrect.
You also stated that God will still fulfil His promises with Israel as though:
1. God still hasn't fulfilled His promises
2. God's promises were with modern Israel as opposed to the Jewish people
3. God's promises did not come with the condition that the people follow His commandments
Often, the position that every person in Israel will be saved is assumed outside of salvation through Christ. This is unbiblical. There is no salvation outside of Christ. He is the one way, the one truth and the one life. No one comes to the Father except through Him.
Also, whenever we quote Paul mentioning Israel, why is it that we neglect to call up Romans 2 or Romans 9 or the majority of Romans 11? Paul spends so much of this letter stating that a real Jew is not one who is a Jew outwardly, not one who is a Jew by inheritance but one who is a Jew by faith. In fact, Paul calls faithful Gentiles the true Jews in Romans 2, and again in Romans 9, after saying "For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel", he says the truth children of Abraham are not ones by descent but those by promise.
Pay special attention to the beginning of Romans 9:6, "But it is not as though the word of God has failed..." and yet we still say, "God's promises will fail unless..." No, not at all. Why? Paul continues as I already said above, "For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel".
Romans 11, before Paul says, "therefore all Israel will be saved", he spends 25 verses saying that the truth Israel, those in the true tree, are both Jews and Gentiles who have been grafted in. How then do we still say, after Paul spends 10 and a half chapters in his letters discussing various topics especially regarding this, that everyone in Israel will be saved no matter what.
I would love to have a chat with you. I believe you to be rational and faithful. I know that some will attack me for my views and I'm fine with that. I guess by some people's standards, even Paul the Apostle is an anti-Semite since he didn't believe every Israelite is a true Jew.
Also, as an Arab, I cannot be an anti-Semite. I am a Semite too unless, of course, I'm anti-myself.
Please, let's talk.
God is bringing the Jews to the gospel. Your views are shaded against them ,many have come to Christ. Many more will , there is anti Jewish sentiment shading many opinions. It’s not name calling
@@richardhaddadau thank you Brother, we love you so very much and Christ loves you even more 🙌 The Lord has shown me the same He has shown you, and He has used your comment to confirm The Truth, I am very grateful 🙌 love you Brother we will be together with our Brethren in Christ in complete unity soon in God's perfect timing. We love you 💜🙌☀️
Thank you.
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JESUS says "My kingdom is not of this world" that means if you recognize an earthly israel in the modern day let alone support and fund.. You know the kingdom of GOD from a doorknob.
Are you from the Jehova's Witness church?
My understanding is that most of today's Jews follow the Talmud and not the Torah as their main book. Until recently they had followed the Talmud and had disregarded the Torah. Look it up on the wikipedia article about the Talmud.
They have a book which they study and revere more than the old testament, yet we Christians keep viewing them as being the original Jews from the bible who follow the old testament, as if they have not changed since then. I think they should have a different name today, Talmudians or something like that. They are not God's chosen people, they are not Israel.
I am honestly struggling understanding your take on this, and many others'.
I'm not sure about the ethnicity aspect, but Judaism has always been concerned with continuity of bloodline and not being very "evangelical". The modern state was called together under dark, imperialist impulses. But what "man intends for evil, God can intend for good".
But also agreed. After their failure to recognize Jesus, as foretold in Daniel and as Jesus literally told them, the temple would be destroyed--which meant that they couldn't practice Torah. There's a lot of God inspired material in the Talmud, but it's a mixed bag (I'd frankly say that about even the Old Testament though--I do think the Jews occasionally confused national zealotry and put words in God's mouth (like the slaughter of the Cannanites).
It's fascinating. Because there were so many convincing signs of the messiah coming in the first century (Daniel 9 in particular), and they forsook Jesus) they reasoned that some other REAL military messiah head to be on their side--which is exactly what lead to the destruction of the temple and dispersion of the people.
But the continued existence of the Jews is literally miraculous--no other people continue to preserve continued for 3,000 years. It's an open question whether Isreal was formed under proper conditions.
Oh strongly wish Elijah would be alive today! But as Christ said, the only future sign would be the sign of Jonah--Jesus. But as Pastor Mike rightly insists, as Paul insisted, God will never forsake His chosen people. And frankly, until the Christian world--also falling because we too are failing our calling as the spiritual Isreal--play a strong part in God's plan to redeem Isreal.
So I pray for Isreal, even though I know Jeremiah and Elijah would have only the harshest things to say about today's Isreal.
Thanks for the teaching today great stuff. My question today is I hear you talk about religion that offers grace plus work or just works and I never hear you mention adventist. Seventh day adventist is a grace plus works religion, there is a lot of stuff that they have to do like keeping the sabath, not eating pork etc. They don't even believe the Jesus work for our salvation is over, they believe he is in the second phase of that right now. They believe Jesus is not seating at God's right hand but he is actually working in the heavenly sanctuary (literal) if they sin that sanctuary gets stain with blood and Jesus has to clean it. They don't really believe or teach from the Bible it's all E.G.White teachings the bible is like reference to them. I mean they are a cult it's the same notion as the JW their church is the only true church and you have to be apart of it to get into the kingdom. They just more subtle. So why don't you include them in false religion? That religion has a lot of unbiblical theology.
cyrillia Etienne Amen to that you hit the nail on the head...I feel as you do about SDA...
no Mike God did not cast away Israel : whole Israel can be saved by accepting Gods means of salvation : His son Jesus Christ .
But does that anything have to do with the country Israel?
the bible says no .
There is a spiritual Israel :
galatians 4
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
so the attentions paid to Israel will lead to dissappointment .
see all the scripture Mike:
acts 10
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
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13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
1Kings 19
13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?
14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria:
16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.
17 And it shall come to pass, that him that escapeth the sword of Hazael shall Jehu slay: and him that escapeth from the sword of Jehu shall Elisha slay.
18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.
only those that stayed loyal BY FAITH IN JEHOVAH were the true worshippers and not the entire nation.
Amen. It is that simple
There isn't any spiritual israel. There is only the church and Israel. There is only two race, Gentile and jews. This is exactly what replacement theology. Disciples even asked jesus when the nation of Israel will be restored. They referring to their nation not the church. So God has a plan in restoration
@@wryannevanornum there is Israel with the twelve tribes and then there is spiritual Israel and there are twelve other tribes
In the Bible, racial Jews (better rendered Judahites) are Israelites, but Israelites are not always Judahites. Designating all Israelites as Judahites would be the same as labeling all Americans Nebraskans. Most Nebraskans are Americans, but not all Americans are Nebraskans. The same is true of the term “Jews” as used in the Bible.
The Bible does not use the term “Jews” when referring collectively to Jacob’s twelve sons or to their descendants who became the twelve tribes of Israel for the simple reason that not all Israelites were descended from the tribe, or kingdom, of Judah. This error has led to many mistakes in biblical interpretation and eschatology.
The earliest date that the term “Judahite” could be legitimately assigned to anyone would have been at the birth of Judah’s children. Therefore, it is improper to identify Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or any of Jacob’s other eleven sons as Judahites or Jews. To label Abraham as a Judahite would mean that all of his descendants, including his first born son Ishmael, the progenitor of today’s Arabs, would be Judahites. In short, if Abraham was a Judahite, then today’s Arabs would be Judahites. Moreover, it is improper to call Abraham an Israelite. The first Israelites were the children of his grandson Jacob whose name was changed to Israel. Abraham is properly identified in Genesis 14:13 as a Hebrew.
The Bible clearly identifies the people known as Jews or Judahites. At the time of Solomon’s son King Rehoboam, the nation of Israel consisted of twelve tribes that divided into two houses - the house of Judah and the house of Israel. 1 Kings 12 details this division.
Only the people of the house of Judah became known as Jews, as rendered in our English versions of the Bible. The first appearance of the word “Jew” in the Bible is found in 2 Kings 16:6, and it occurs after the two houses separated. From this point forward, the Bible uses the word “Jews” exclusively for descendants of the tribe of Judah or the citizens of the southern kingdom or house of Judah. The only exceptions are found in Esther 8:17, Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 where non-Israelites assumed the name and/or religion of the house of Judah and became known as Judahites.
Winger is not a good expositor; he is an articulate and eloquent speaker with a bit too much confidence in himself. It’s a shame there are so many without a solid foundation in the historic, orthodox Christian faith who are all too willing to be mislead by errors, convincingly presented.
When Jesus gave the rebukes to the pharisees and the scribes, He was talking to the most holy and prepared people. They stand in for all of us. We are acting like we would have done better, EXACTLY what Jesus told His Jewish audience in Mattew 23.
Christendom scapegoated the Jews for the last 1500 years because of not getting this. It is our job to love our enemies, and until the Christian world starts being Christ-like, how do we expect them to sincerely hear the gospel? Because it hasn't been good news for them. "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." We HAVE the messiah, and He's told us how to help Isreal and bring them to Him. We are causing them to stumble, for our own selfish desire to cling onto God's promises alone.
The Jews have *miraculously* continued to exist for 3000 years. God must be with them still, even if Elijah and Jeremiah would come down SOO hard on modern Isreal for their current behavior. Just as always happened, they will be exiled again if they refuse to turn to God--but having the gospel, our failures are now causing them to stumble. All of us need to repent.
Even if you disagree, and only see them as irredeemable Christ-killers, it doesn't matter--we are not true inheritors of the gospel unless we pray for our enemies.
"There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 FOR THERE IS NO PARITALITY WITH GOD." (Romans 2)
BJ Maxwell No one does Good 😌
The question is, Mike, WHO IS ISRAEL? Or who is TRUE Israel? Because it can't be those people you're referring to...
The scripture is talking about the nation of Israel, jews. If you are ask8ng this then you considered replacement theology. That theology is unbiblical and incorrect. The first half of the book of acts. Everytime they refer to israel, they meant the Israel. When disciples asked Jesus about the condition of the restoration of Israel. They were asking in the context of jews not the church. We are not part of Israel but of the church
@@wryannevanornum I DON'T believe in replacement theology at all. I am glad, however, that you answered that my Elohim was indeed speaking to Yisrael and NOT the Church. I guess my question is: "WHO IS ISRAEL, AND WHERE THEY, NOW???
@@yahbarrahyisrael1921 There is a faithful remanant Israel called the messianic jews... When you look at the disciples and the early christ follower gathering, they were all jewish.
@@wryannevanornum wrong again.
@@yahbarrahyisrael1921 It's "genetic Europeans" and the scales are slowly being removed from their eyes as the fake Israelites of Gog and Magog increase their attacks on God's saints. We are in the midst of Rev 20:8 as we speak.
What about the street preachers/picket sign churches that scream in peoples faces and stuff?
This 🇮🇱✡️ is NOT Israel. At least not spiritual Israel.
God is going to restore Israel spiritually , He has said that in His word .
Leigh Covey
However spiritual Israel is Jew and Gentile. Spiritual Israel will be made up of all of God’s children. So peoples understanding of Israel 🇮🇱 seems to be very flawed and distorted. You will not see this ✡️🇮🇱 in Heaven. This is pagan and void of God. Who ever comes out of literal, temporal Israel will have to be born again. Have a circumcision of the heart and yes that is a spiritual transformation.
In other words the covenant made with Abraham is about Jesus Christ. It has always been a type in the shadow leading to the promise of Messiah which is Jesus Christ. People seem to miss this very crucial but key point to salvation.
Modern day Jews base their faith and fanatism on the BabylonianTalmud not on the Bible, even though they supposedly uphold the first 5 books of the OT. They muddy the waters to deceive. Jesus spoke of the "synagogue of satan" for good reason.
Will Rodgers
Will Rodgers yes you get it and understand. This is rare for so few understand the GREAT DECEPTION. That yes there are Jews in temporal Israel but not all Israel are made up of Jews. As well Judaism ✡️ is not blessed by God but cursed by God. Judaism is based off of the Babylonian Talmudic mystery religion which is pagan as you have already said. Founded on the Babylonian Talmud and the Kabbalah. Clearly this world is VERY deceived and that deception is founded in the Kabbalah which is found world wide in both Judaism and most modern Christianity.
To be clear I am a Christian but have no denomination and have searched with an honest heart ALL of them. God lead me out of every last one with great power and purpose. All I found were organized churches corrupted by the teachings and founded on the roots of the kabbalistic teachings of the ancients. For this is pagan or Lucifer hiding in plain sight and most people in churches today 75%-90% or more are asleep 😴💤💤💤 to the God of Abraham the Great I AM. To be honest men act like woman and woman act like men and the warning and message of Jesus Christ is lost in a sea of mixed messages and false doctrines. The men bend so not to offend and bring unity not Gods Truth that is meant for the temporal body to reflect, so that a spiritual circumcision can take place. A true transformation of the heart, what is known as a inwardly circumcision.
But I say Jesus did not come to bring UNITY to this lost world but a sword. The sword of TRUTH and it will cleave away the wheat from The tares, the righteous from the wicked, the living 🕊 from the dead 💀.
Hi Mark, this is actually my husbands tag, I am Nin, I too have been through the mill, leaving the apostate religious system about 10 years ago, although only becoming more aware about how manipulated the whole world system is over the last 2-3 years. I have found that apostasywatch.com has been very helpful to me (although you have to always use discernment with every site) also on youtube one of my go to sites is activist-news 2, or activist news australia. (Not just because he is australian - but I think because he appears to want to be honest and biblically sound). He is also on bitchute. His last 3 vids cover a lot of stuff that you have mentioned. I also check out James Perloffs website as well. I hope you get all this info. Regards
How is it you are more righteous in your ministry than a JW in his?
Matthew 7:1-3
.Stop judging that you may not be judged; 2 for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you.
By who's name are we saved? What is the will of the Almighty for his servants?
Matthew 7:21
.Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
to answer this issue one would have to ask....what is the difference between the JW...., to use your term, and a Christian....
I believe he was referring to works. J.W. and Mormons believe more in a works base system of salvation than the Holy Bible and you are right, we should not judge them but should call anyone out that is against the gospel and try to spiritually restore them as Gal.6:1 suggest. I have met some wonderful J.W. around my area. We just have some textual disagreements and need to be honest with one another in our beliefs with love.
I think it's funny when you ignore the scriptures That go against your narrative Like the fact that when They were baptized in the Holy Spirit They started speaking in tongues tons which is how they knew they knew they were baptized and the Holy Spirit hes only spirit Which was evidence on them being saved
I am astonished to find Mike Winger, bringing up the question" has God forsaken Israel?"
when history shows that God did indeed forsake Israel on many an occasion in ancient times.
Set aside, yes never abandoned! Promises to them will be fulfilled yet!
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Hope springs eternal, however where reality is concerned Israel was abandoned by God when his Holy City was sacked by the Roman army in AD 70. Did not God promise that a king would always sit on the throne of the kingdom of Israel. But there is no throne or kingdom, they have long disappeared.
Garbage.. Deuteronomy 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: 28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Hearing self-professed Christians simping for the people who murdered the savor, then went on and invented a man-made religion after the destruction of the temple makes me sick to my stomach.
I hope you’ll consider really listening to the study. Or reading Romans 10-11 on your own to see two things. The attitude we should have toward Jews and the hope for spiritual revival for them.
Imagine Jesus hating the people He died for.
Imagine Paul the apostle being rejected because he persecuted Christians before being saved.
Imagine Jonah, who despised a group of people so much that he was angry when they were saved.
I was you and I, et al., who murdered our Savior by our sin necessitating His sacrificial atonement. Man up and fall on your knees!
@Ísleifur Helgason Please, read the bible and take all things into context.
Jesus was NOT murdered, he was a WILLING SACRIFICE. The Jews replied "crucify him" referring to Jesus, and the Romans carried out the crucifixion. But it was on Jesus terms.
Time and again Jesus told his followers that he would be crucified and would rise again.
Even Jewish leaders
Matthew 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate. 63 “Sir,” they said, “we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’
What I find most ridiculous about your false teaching, is the virtual complete lack of relevant verse.. No, Jesus was a Judean, the term "Jew" is from the 16th century..
So wrong. Israel is not the nation it is the people of GOD. Some jews believe and seek GOD but are blinded because of self righteousness. GOD will humble them at the end as all (2/3) except the remnant (1/3) are killed and them Jesus will appear (ZECH 12.10) and save them all as they are broken like Paul was broken because they hated/persecuted the very GOD they sought to please.
Israel was always people and nation. Just search word "nation" in Bible app
Psalms 83:1 (A Song or Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
Psalms 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
Psalms 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Psalms 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Psalms 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
Psalms 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
Psalms 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Psalms 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
Psalms 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
Psalms 83:11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
Psalms 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
John quoted the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10 at Calvary in the verses below.
Joh 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
Joh 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
Joh 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Joh 19:37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
Was the Spirit poured out in Jerusalem, and did about 3,000 from "all the house of Israel" (Acts 2:36) mourn for the one they had seen pierced a few weeks earlier?
In the parable of the virgins from Matthew 25:1-13 Jesus said they must be ready before the bridegroom comes.
In 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 Paul said Christ returns "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God and obey the Gospel.
Do the passages above indicate a second chance at salvation on the day of his Second Coming?
Paul was no faithful Jew as he claims to be. He is what you, Mike, call an apostate. A Jew who starts a new religion that opposes the world view of the Hebrew Bible is an apostate. Or a Jew who accepts another religion that is not Torah Judaism is an apostate. Of course we pray every day for these folks to return to G-d and certainly one day they will, with G-d’s help.
evidently not every one watching this presentation is a Christian....
All you have to do Danny is believe that Jesus is messiah, was killed on the cross, and arose on the 3rd day to wipe out all of our sins. He is the savior and only way to God is through him.
@@inmyopinion651 Danny is not interested in repenting .
Get lost edomite imposter.
Based on what I currently understand, I believe that the two witnesses in Revelation are Enoch and Elijah. Thinking of Elijah as having unfinished business adds some drama to my imagined idea of how those three and a half years go. Enoch is there because he was so successful in his walk with God that God took him up. Elijah is there because he wanted an exit ramp and God granted it. ❤️ It has a touch of tragedy and redemption in it.