I'm not sure if anyone has made this comment yet, but if you have users that are part of a group, you need to give that group access to the shared space too. Otherwise you can give your users full access and they still won't have any... Your videos have been a tremendous help!!! Keep up the great work!
This video is already 1 year old... but I did not want to let this opportunity pass and no say that this is the best tutorial that I have found about Synology Photo. Thank you for your effort.
I know its been a few months since you made this video, but just in case you missed it, Synology did clean up all the shared folder permissions and implemented pretty much everything you wished it had. Folder level access, recursively, per user or group now!
@@WisamAlRawi I can't get it to work, despite some experience with Linux/Unix permissions. What I find is that it seems only Administrators can use shared space, not ordinary users, in Synology Photos. I'll keep trying but it's not looking good after a half a day playing around. The workaround might be to simply tell an ordinary user (not an Administrator) to use "Personal Space" and be careful as to what type photos they put in. I have gotten the "link" feature to work with photos/albums for all users.
@@raylopez99 I didn't try it yet. I'm still working to combine my photos from every source for the past 20 years. Extracting all attachments from two Gmail accounts, Google photos export and WhatsApp and multiple HDDs. As soon as I'm done, I'll give shared folders a look. I'll be careful as you said.
@@WisamAlRawi OK thanks. Let us know how it goes if you have time. I did the same thing but luckily my partner only had about 200 GB of photos, not that much. Took me about two weeks on and off to transfer from Google to the NAS. Another resource is this guy (RUclips doesn't like links so search for it): "Synology Photos - The Most Cost Efficient Way to Store Your Photos" and especially around the 9:40 mark (deals with the beta version). Good luck.
Thank you so much for this video! I'm a video producer who transitioned from Google Photos to Synology NAS Photo....still trying to figure everything out and my NAS takes forever to index my photos and videos downloaded from Google Takeout (around 100k). It's in its 10th day now and only hitting 65%. I guess it will need 20 more days...This tutorial is the best Synology Photo tutorial on RUclips by far! Other Synology tutorials are so redundant and poorly produced. Yours is the best! Thank you!
Hang in there, they will index eventually. I had the same problem when I made the switch but tried it first on a “j” class machine (DS220j). Huge mistake! It just doesn’t have the processing power. After a few months, I bought the DS220+ and relegated the DS220j to a remote backup. Now the FaceRecognition and Indexing work much faster… but yeah…. 100k of photos will take some time!
@@dbpike Thanks for sharing this! This really help! After indexing is done, do all the photos an videos show up instantly when browsing them on your phone app? (like Google Photos?)
@@HarleyPan more or less. It is not Google Photos speed and of course depends on your internet connection speeds. However, for me it displays thumbnails in a few seconds of waiting… which is acceptable.
I’m new to Synology and NAS… you’re work is fantastic, thank you! I’ve started w/a DS923+ w/two 10TB WD-Plus. Looking forward to this journey. Currently adding a 3rd 10TB drive.
Great video… as usual. As family Photo Management was my main reason for acquiring a NAS, I had some of this worked out. However understanding the use of the Shared Folder was great. Synology did a good job with Photos but missed the mark on a few things. Is there a place one can request new features? One of my biggest requests would be to have full logic control on conditional albums. For example, share all the pics of me with my wife less those where I am with my old girlfriends! 😜
Thank you for this video, I was struggling to share the photos directory with other users, and all I had to do was enable it in synology photos. Thank you for educating your views.
This was very helpful. All of my photos were in the shared space and I didn’t know why. After you explained it I realized that everything was in the shared folder that DS photos created
This was sooo usefull. I have my NAS for almost a week now and have to learn a lot. My only problem is that I sometimes had to watch parts of your video several times before I got it. Thanks mate, you're doing a great job with your tutorials videos.
I stumbled my way through this weeks ago. Taking the ability of the users to delete from the Share Space was under Group --Permission--and select Custom which will bring up a Permission Editor and under Write is the permission to delete.
I cannot find it. Could you please describe it once more :) should it be in settings of synology photos - > shared space->permissions (setting access permissions)? Because I cannot see nowhere the 'custom' option
@@horijakkamnavlese5513 Not inside Photos, but in the Control Panel-->Users. In groups (which you assign users to) there is a permission tab, click on Custom for the selected group. Anew window pops up
New Synology user. Interesting information, thank you. As a former network implementer, I understand what you are talking about. In terms of sharing with people with limited understanding, I think the existing cloud services provide a better way to share for non techies. I have Onedrive, Box, Drop, Google and probably a couple others that I rarely use that are all easier. Some of indexing and facial recognition may be a plus.
I got my DS1522+ a few weeks ago. I agree that setting up sharing for Synology Photos is confusing. However, permissions have been updated to add Viewer, Downloader, Uploader and Manager. I think that this responds to most of your concerns.
Very helpful...I've had my own Synology and just got one for parents who are going thru old pictures, and wasn't sure how to setup DSM7. Love the idea of giving accounts to family members since I have family spread out. Awesome video! Thanks!
My man! GREAT video. Thank you SO much. I still have a lot to learn and have not found what I'm truly looking for... but, once I have it down. I'll share it with you all. Thanks SO MUCH for this. Exactly (pretty close anyway) to what I was looking for.
Enjoying the whole series of videos. I use Lightroom Classic heavily for tagging and organizing family photos. Synology Photos seems like it can simplify the sharing of tagged content with the family or with other groups. I'd love your thoughts or a video on setting up a smooth relationship between Lightroom and Synology. I've been trying to adapt the ideas in your Lightroom videos, but am struggling. It seems a bit like trying to change an aircraft engine in mid-flight.
Oh I need to mention that any help with iPad + LR + Synology workflow would be watched and shared, as several of my colleagues and I are trying to find best practices for content creation using iPad rather than our stationary iMacs.
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Thanks for another well done instructional video. It seems Synology was listening - individual user permissions can now be customized in Synology Photos to view, download/upload, and manage photo files and folders.
When you create a shared space and add photos, does it copy the actual photo or just a link. Example: you put 100 photos in from your collection so now they are taking up twice the space?
That’s actually a good question (that I actually do not know the answer to) I believe that if you have a BTRFS volume it should use the instant copy feature to reference the same data (if this is true you would not use more space)
@@cyberwasp461 well, that was not that obvious in moments, actually, files are stored in home/drive/moments, /homes/username/moments, and shared content was/is stored in /photo/... When a phone was synced with moments, there was yet another subfolder created for every new device under /home/drive/moments/device_name. The /home & /homes are linked together (check file path in file properties), but /photo shared content is duplicated. I wonder then if Photos now solves this and shared space is not duplicated. That can take up or save a lot of storage space, especially when videos are in the libraries. I guess this might be checked very easily by comparing file paths in properties on DSM7. Can you look at it, guys?
@SpaceRex - Will, for a husband and wife with separate phones uploading photos and videos.... would you set it up for both devices to be uploaded to the Admin account photos? Or to individual users with a shared space? I don't want to be duplicating the photos and videos so both of us can access them. But you said that you don't want to be accessing or using the Admin account very much after initial setup, but photos upload and access is a daily thing. This video seems like you would be using the Admin account for all you photo storage... and not the "Will" user. ??
Thanks for this video. Without it I would probably have thrown my Synology DS423+ against the wall at high speed with considerable force. I have subscribed and look forward watching your other videos explaining the inner workings in a way I can understand.
When sharing things to the share space does that copy the file from your user-specific folder? Thus there would be 2 copies on the NAS for the exact same file?
It looks like DSM 7.1 has addressed your wish for more granular access permissions in the shared photo folder. It's quite different from this video. You may want to do a short update video.
Synology looks interesting. Thanks to your "Install Nextcloud on a RaspberryPi ", I've been using Nextcloud on a rapsberry pi 4 running on an SSD. It's great for syncing files and photos. Like you, I just dumped my 58,000 photos from the past 20 years then ran a dedup script. It does okay, not as easy as Google, but at least it's private. Makes it easy to share links to to individual photos, folders, or "favorites". I also like the Nextcloud client that works very similar as dropbox but with better features (like NOT requiring location sharing with a 3rd party upload).
Great video! I would like to backup my wife and my cell phone photos , apply facial recognition and create a SINGLE shared dynamic album about our son. Now I backup cell photo from each personal account, but can admin access to both personal photo backup folder (of me and my wife) with its Photo package to apply facial RECOGNITION and create a shareable unique dynamic album about our son ?
Hi @doesexistthisname, I asked Synology a similar question earlier this week and the short answer I received was no. In particular, my question was about whether I could share the AI/facial recognition date between users to save me having to manually identify the same faces on another user account. Can I suggest that you also put in a feature request for this: From Synology: [ If you have any further feature requests or idea's on how we can improve our software, feel free to submit these through our dedicated feature form online: www.synology.com/en-us/form/inquiry/feature Unfortunately, it isn't possible to provide a timescale as to when this may be included, but the more requests our developers receive for a specific feature, the greater the likelihood of implementation. ]
i really just want to make a shared album from my private photos with my girlfriend. But she can just delete the photos she added. If we both could add/delete everything, it would be perfect. any knowledge if this feature is planed? because with the shared folder, if my girlfriend deletes photos, they will be also deleted for me. If its a shared album, the foto would be kicked out, but if it was my photo, i would still have it.
excellent video , clear instructions . Hope you can do another video on how to migrate pictures from an online service like Google photos /onedrive etc to Synology . I think Google photo resets the photo taken date when you try and take pictures out so not straightforward.
Any idea how to take pics from Google photos and merge them with the .jason files to keep the meta data? I downloaded all my photos from Google takeout, and they all have the same date that I copied them to my Synology NAS.
I have a question. When I upload pictures to the NAS by using Synology Photos, I notice that the NAS puts them in my personal space. So far no problem. But I want the pictures to be put into subfolders on the NAS, so that all pictures that belong together, stay together in their own subfolder. Is that possible from within Synology Photos? I know that you can put them together in Albums, but I'd rather have them in subfolders too. Until now I upload the pictures manually via SMB-upload. But I was hoping that this could be done easier over Syn Photos.
Thank you so much for all the videos you've prooduced on Synology NAS - I've finally bought one and find the videos invaluable. One strange thing I've noticed on Photos is when you copy photos from the personal folder to the shared folder it seems necessary to go through the whole 'People' sorting in both locations as a separate exercise - is this correct or is there some way to share all the face recognition across from the personal folder to the shared folder
Great video thank you. As i understood, if I want to have a shared album with your family in which they can view my photos and ad their photos, we have to use the shared space. But in that case I will duplicate all my photos from Personal space and shared space ... Same as Moments, which i currently use
Yes, though if you want all of the photos in shared space, why not just keep them all in shared space? also if you use the fast clone option (and have BTRFS) it actually would not increase your space
@@SpaceRexWill interesting, clone on BTRFS is not a copy, right? Do you mean to copy all library to shared photo folder, then delete personal one to avoid duplication? Files duplication is rather poor option, folder permissions for various users would do the trick enough well. I hoped this will be solved on Photos. What with mobile syncs? I suppose when files are moved to shared space, mobile will try to sync it again with user/device folder?
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you for your videos! Should I copy or move content from the personal to the shared folder? Copy won't duplicate the files if the Fast Clone Option is active?
Great video. These are things I didn't know. I'm saving this for later. I really like synology photos. But sadly they removed the object recognition. That was an awesome feature
@SpaceRex Enabled the share link where the Public can view and download. But people who don't have Synology accounts cannot see the shared album or Shared photos outside of my network. Please provide the resolution.
Where should I store all my family photos? Under "Home/Photos" or the shared root folder called "Photo"? If each one of my 4 family members has a user account? Right now, all my family photos are under the "Home/Photos" folder & we all long into the same admin user account. After learning more about security, it might be best if we each have our own user account into the NAS. However this is where things get tricky regarding accessing the family photos since there in the Home/Photos root folder. Can or should I just move all our family photos to the "Photo" root folder under file station - and everyone would have access to the "shared space" and each user would have thier personal space for backing up there iphone or whatever. Lasty, if the admin turns off Shared space, the root folder goes away - I don't loose my photos, do it?
HI SpaceRex. I'm new user of DS 220+.I have one question, please...I already uploaded some photos in Synology Photos. I created Albums....but i don't know how to share these albums to other users of my NAS so these users will have the same names of these albums and that face recognitions will work.
Good video. Thanks. The key use of NAS for my family was keeping all the photos at one place. It is especially important when we travel and take the pictures by different devices. Manual sharing and collection at one place is always a headache. I do not like to use suggested approach with personal and shared space as there will be manual work by moving from one folder to another or duplication of pics. Instead I decided to use one "home media' user account and logged in all the family members on their mobile Syn Photo, then each decides if he/she wants to make full back up of the photos to NAS automatically from Iphone Photos or select pics manually. as we use the same account we see all the photos collected together with no manual work. The only challenge under such scenario is keeping the pics safe from accidental deletion by kids if they are logged in.
Hello, thanks for your channel that i just discovered. as far as i understand what you've done, you copy the photos in the "photo" folder in order to have the shared photos enabled ni the Memberfamily page? is that mean that we have to duplicate the photos in order to share? sounds weird... my usage today : 2 smartphones with a single account User1--> we can see both of our photos an user2 with his smarphone : he can see its photos of course but i would like to share a big part of the album of the User1 with the user2. Today i click on the share button piece by piece avoiding those i don't want to. is there a better way?
I cannot figure out how to give the family member the ability to “share” photos with anyone. The share icon does not show on the family member’s account despite me following all of the set up steps shown in this video? Is this just bad luck or am I missing a “take it for granted” step that I should know?
Lost me at 1:30. You say that one needs to be in the Admin account to setup Photo sharing, but when you open up Photos, you are viewing photos in your Homes/User/Photo folder. How does that work? When I open my Photos package from the Admin account, I see the Admin's Photo folder, not the User's folder. I missed the step on how you instruct Photos to open a User's account (not the Admin's.) [Also, back on my desktop, I see my NAS with a Photos folder, but it shows what is in the Admin's folder, not the User's? Something is setup wrong, but I can't figure out what to change.]
Hi, great video, BUT: What is the best way to, create a shared folder/album to the stranger simply just to upload it's photos/videos to one folder and thats it? I've tried to file request but this does not upload metadata from iPhone. I've tried share album to "provider" permission user and he's not able to upload from his phone, via the shared album link. Only if he logs into the quickconnect.... I'm desperate for this topic. Often going for a weekends with different people. I simply want to send then a link to upload photos after the trip and then share all photos to all of them... An answer or link to a video would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I backup my mobile phone to personal space but want to share many of the photos with family members in the shared space but also keep them on my personal space. Will this create a duplicate of the photo in different folders?
Great video as always. I’ve been using Photos to back up my photos for a little while now, but this video has made me think I have set it up incorrectly. On my NAS, I have a main admin user account that I used to do all the admin stuff. Then for Photos I use my “normal” non-admin user account - all my phone photo backups occur under my this account. I try to keep the admin account purely for admin. However I now realise that using Photos generally via my non-admin account, I am limited in what I can do. I can’t create a shared space for example. Is there a way of my non-admin user an admin only in Photos so my non-admin account has admin abilities only in Photos?
I want share a folder from my personal space to a shared space but cannot figure out how to do it. I can create an album but I'm avoiding that for now. Suggestions?
Hi there! Awesome video. Quick question - do you need to give family access to the “photo” folder on the nas itself - if they want to add photos and keep the file structure?
@7.34m setting access permissions to users under photos settings shared space set access permissions. It all different and the wonderful video instruction fails have no idea how to give access to photo app users access to personal space and a shared folder on the nas. Could you help out. Synology have obviously changed something
I have so much photos on Google Photos and I really want to get them to my Synology Photos without losing the meta data on them. Could you please make a video for that too? It would really help. Thanks
Hello Will, How can i share files from my mobile backup in my "personal space" with the folder i created on my "Shared space" under all photos ? Do i have to copy them there, loosing space on my disk? better to move them ? what should i do ? Thank you !!
I have Synology on DSM 7.1. I have Photos set up and it works great for me. As the admin, I use QuickConnect for all of my personal access at home or outside the home. I set up a family member USER (brother) and he lives out of state. How can I get him a link to use that will allow him to access his shred folder. I have logged in as him here at homeland it all looks set up properly, he just needs to be able to log in.
Thanks for the video! I am using DSM7.1 and Synology Photos. Just received my NAS a few weeks ago so still playing around with it and trying to understand all the settings, etc. But is there a way that I can create a shared album and put photos into it as well as my wife or family members be able to upload pictures into that same shared album? so if we went on a vacation, we both take pictures, now we want to upload our pictures to one shared album say, "vacation", is there a way to do that? Also, if I download all my photos from my phone, if I get a new phone, how do I upload all my photos back to my phone or select which ones I want back on my phone? is there a restore function?
Thanks for the guide..going to set this up for my parents as it's annoying to share photos with them currently. Me and my dad have android and my mom and wife have iPhone. It compressed pics and videos of sent via text message.
Having everything on Synology actually has been great for my family! Plus if something better comes along you can just easily transfer your photos out, something that cannot be said for google
so there is no way to share photos to a person who is not a user of my NAS over the internet? well, i thought synology said it is a replacement for Google photo or OneDrive pictures, which they can share to whomever.
Thanks for the helpful info! This is exactly why I bought my NAS - To manage family videos and videos. I still have a question - How do I create Albums in the Shared Space for all users to see? I have two users (My Admin account, and my wife's account). I'd love to be able to create Albums as a way to organize our photos and give her access to it. Having to share every single Album seems cumbersome. Surely there's a way she can have access to the Albums I created in the "Albums" tab, right?
(EDIT: I upgraded to 1200 Mbps downstream, 40 Mbps up, and still the vids buffer as stated below. What's next ?) Why might my MP4 video clips in Synology Photos (shot in 4k 60) be playing back so poorly - constant buffering, choppy? Connected to a 920+ (SHR2) via SMB on my mac desktop. Upload speed 23 mbps. download 500 mbps. 14 TB of free space. In addition, the same videos just don't play back at all for users attempting to view these clips via a link on a mobile phone browser. Sigh. I had really high hopes.
I would like to share some folders, but without access to delete or move my photos. But as I see it I have to go into each folder and subfolders and create them with only Entry because with Management they can also delete and move my photos. Do you have an easier way to do this? Regards Kim/Denmark
@@SpaceRexWill Appreciate the quick response!!! Would the photos app allow for an ongoing mirrored experience automatically between iPhotos and Photos? Thanks again!
Greta video at minute 6:14 could you explain this more i have problems sending photos from my file to my moments i didn’t upgrade yet on ds7 but is a question i always have Appreciate your knowledge
I'm considering using this to collaborate with clients on photo albums. One of our small businessess biggest struggles is getting client feedback on the reordering of the chronology of photos. Would this allow us to share an album with clients for them to be able to drag and drop the photos into a different chronology. Would we then be able to lock in the new order by changing filenames before we exporting out and into our design software? -
Great video as always SpaceRex. Do you happen to have any tutorials on mobile backup using Synology Photos? Does Photos have an app on app store or play store?
Hi Will. Great video! I got a 1621+ and trying to set up TWO separate users for Synology Photos (me and my GF). We want photos to be private for both accounts (no common area between the accounts set up (but I understand admin can always access files)) Interface for uploading and downloading is over wifi and SD card.. but also it would be VERY convenient for both of us to have an individual/personal folder that contains or private images on our personal laptops (win 10). If you could cover such scenario in a video it would be very helpful indeed.
That is something I really wish was built into Synology Drive, but unfortunately the personal Synology Photos is the only folder you cannot sync to your laptop in drive unfortunately. What might be the best bet is a resilosync between them
My preference was to enable each user upload to shared and then shift specific photos to personal. Most of our photos can be shared and organised by tags. I have not found a way to shift from shared to personal. I can do it the other way though.
Hi This is getting very complicated. I have used your set-guide. And that is okay. And I have used Synonogy Photos Mobile. And it works too. But not in the way that I want. I want to show friends photos from speciel folders on my NAS In Photos Mobile there is a lot things to do before reaching the photos I want to present to them. I would like to present the albums to the user and he is able to start a diasshow. Do you know of a way to do this or an app that can do that simple task. Or do I have to set it up my self? regards Morten PS: Very good video by the way. Your speak is very nice!
Perfect - just what I needed 💪😊. Can I somehow sync shared photos with my Windows computer? Because os poor internet connection, it would be nice to have the photos on nas AND on my pc...
hey, I have question regarding sharing photos, I have family abroad who I want them to upload /share thier photos to the nas (ds920+) so I can back them up to external storage whilst having a copy on the nas, what option do I have to achieve this?
Really great explanation of sharing and the shared space. Unfortunately I found out that the facial recognition did not carry the names of faces over to the shared user, just a "Who is this"" under each face that it carried over to the share user. Album sharing works well but each photo thumbnail in an album has my admin username on it as an overlay. It's not very nice looking. With luck this app will get better in a future upgrade. For now I'm looking into an Open Source docker based alternative.
Hi, I've experienced the same which is incredibly annoying when you have thousands of photos. Could I kindly ask you to spare a minute and request 'face recognition sharing' as a feature: "If you have any further feature requests or idea's on how we can improve our software, feel free to submit these through our dedicated feature form online:" www.synology.com/en-us/form/inquiry/feature
The new user needs access to DSM (under Assign Application Permissions 4:45 ) to get at the desktop. That is not set by default currently. If it's not DSM, it's something else that cost me an hour of "You are not authorized to use this service."
I'm starting to think that someone at Synology has been watching these vids - every time you have a complaint about something, I'm seeing that it is usually fixed in the latest updates in DSM.
I'm not sure if anyone has made this comment yet, but if you have users that are part of a group, you need to give that group access to the shared space too. Otherwise you can give your users full access and they still won't have any... Your videos have been a tremendous help!!! Keep up the great work!
This video is already 1 year old... but I did not want to let this opportunity pass and no say that this is the best tutorial that I have found about Synology Photo. Thank you for your effort.
I know its been a few months since you made this video, but just in case you missed it, Synology did clean up all the shared folder permissions and implemented pretty much everything you wished it had.
Folder level access, recursively, per user or group now!
Hey this is awesome info thanks!
Great update!!! Thank you Kuth70 !
@@WisamAlRawi I can't get it to work, despite some experience with Linux/Unix permissions. What I find is that it seems only Administrators can use shared space, not ordinary users, in Synology Photos. I'll keep trying but it's not looking good after a half a day playing around. The workaround might be to simply tell an ordinary user (not an Administrator) to use "Personal Space" and be careful as to what type photos they put in. I have gotten the "link" feature to work with photos/albums for all users.
@@raylopez99 I didn't try it yet. I'm still working to combine my photos from every source for the past 20 years. Extracting all attachments from two Gmail accounts, Google photos export and WhatsApp and multiple HDDs. As soon as I'm done, I'll give shared folders a look. I'll be careful as you said.
@@WisamAlRawi OK thanks. Let us know how it goes if you have time. I did the same thing but luckily my partner only had about 200 GB of photos, not that much. Took me about two weeks on and off to transfer from Google to the NAS. Another resource is this guy (RUclips doesn't like links so search for it): "Synology Photos - The Most Cost Efficient Way to Store Your Photos" and especially around the 9:40 mark (deals with the beta version). Good luck.
Thank you so much for this video! I'm a video producer who transitioned from Google Photos to Synology NAS Photo....still trying to figure everything out and my NAS takes forever to index my photos and videos downloaded from Google Takeout (around 100k). It's in its 10th day now and only hitting 65%. I guess it will need 20 more days...This tutorial is the best Synology Photo tutorial on RUclips by far! Other Synology tutorials are so redundant and poorly produced. Yours is the best! Thank you!
Hey thanks! Glad you like the videos!
Hang in there, they will index eventually. I had the same problem when I made the switch but tried it first on a “j” class machine (DS220j). Huge mistake! It just doesn’t have the processing power. After a few months, I bought the DS220+ and relegated the DS220j to a remote backup. Now the FaceRecognition and Indexing work much faster… but yeah…. 100k of photos will take some time!
@@dbpike Thanks for sharing this! This really help! After indexing is done, do all the photos an videos show up instantly when browsing them on your phone app? (like Google Photos?)
@@HarleyPan more or less. It is not Google Photos speed and of course depends on your internet connection speeds. However, for me it displays thumbnails in a few seconds of waiting… which is acceptable.
@@dbpike thanks for sharing. If you scroll down to like years ago...it also loads quickly after a few seconds?
I’m new to Synology and NAS… you’re work is fantastic, thank you! I’ve started w/a DS923+ w/two 10TB WD-Plus. Looking forward to this journey. Currently adding a 3rd 10TB drive.
Great video… as usual. As family Photo Management was my main reason for acquiring a NAS, I had some of this worked out. However understanding the use of the Shared Folder was great.
Synology did a good job with Photos but missed the mark on a few things. Is there a place one can request new features? One of my biggest requests would be to have full logic control on conditional albums. For example, share all the pics of me with my wife less those where I am with my old girlfriends! 😜
Was about to get in to replacing icloud and google photos with my Synology. Great timing and thanks for this!
Thank you for this video, I was struggling to share the photos directory with other users, and all I had to do was enable it in synology photos. Thank you for educating your views.
This was very helpful. All of my photos were in the shared space and I didn’t know why. After you explained it I realized that everything was in the shared folder that DS photos created
This was sooo usefull.
I have my NAS for almost a week now and have to learn a lot.
My only problem is that I sometimes had to watch parts of your video several times before I got it.
Thanks mate, you're doing a great job with your tutorials videos.
Thank you for this. Sharing photos and videos is the primary reason I purchased a Synology NAS.
I stumbled my way through this weeks ago. Taking the ability of the users to delete from the Share Space was under Group --Permission--and select Custom which will bring up a Permission Editor and under Write is the permission to delete.
Hey I will have to check that out! Thanks for the info!
I cannot find it. Could you please describe it once more :) should it be in settings of synology photos - > shared space->permissions (setting access permissions)? Because I cannot see nowhere the 'custom' option
@@horijakkamnavlese5513 Not inside Photos, but in the Control Panel-->Users. In groups (which you assign users to) there is a permission tab, click on Custom for the selected group. Anew window pops up
New Synology user. Interesting information, thank you. As a former network implementer, I understand what you are talking about. In terms of sharing with people with limited understanding, I think the existing cloud services provide a better way to share for non techies. I have Onedrive, Box, Drop, Google and probably a couple others that I rarely use that are all easier. Some of indexing and facial recognition may be a plus.
7:45 Synology must've watched your videos, bc I`m clicking as I watch and now the feature to customize the selection is available!
I saw that!
Two years on and it's still a great tutorial :) Thanks
I got my DS1522+ a few weeks ago. I agree that setting up sharing for Synology Photos is confusing. However, permissions have been updated to add Viewer, Downloader, Uploader and Manager. I think that this responds to most of your concerns.
You have very clear explanations and give a clear guide. Thanks for that!
Very helpful...I've had my own Synology and just got one for parents who are going thru old pictures, and wasn't sure how to setup DSM7. Love the idea of giving accounts to family members since I have family spread out. Awesome video! Thanks!
Just wanted to say thank you for this it is really nice now that my wife can access everything
My man! GREAT video. Thank you SO much. I still have a lot to learn and have not found what I'm truly looking for... but, once I have it down. I'll share it with you all. Thanks SO MUCH for this. Exactly (pretty close anyway) to what I was looking for.
Enjoying the whole series of videos. I use Lightroom Classic heavily for tagging and organizing family photos. Synology Photos seems like it can simplify the sharing of tagged content with the family or with other groups. I'd love your thoughts or a video on setting up a smooth relationship between Lightroom and Synology. I've been trying to adapt the ideas in your Lightroom videos, but am struggling. It seems a bit like trying to change an aircraft engine in mid-flight.
I also wonder if you can host your Lightroom catalog on Synology?
Oh I need to mention that any help with iPad + LR + Synology workflow would be watched and shared, as several of my colleagues and I are trying to find best practices for content creation using iPad rather than our stationary iMacs.
@@bamafan1612 I wonder that too. I specifically added SSD‘s to the NAS to host the catalogue. But no clue how to make it work.
this has been tremendously useful for understanding the share features DSM 7 Photos. thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful!
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Thanks for another well done instructional video. It seems Synology was listening - individual user permissions can now be customized in Synology Photos to view, download/upload, and manage photo files and folders.
I did figure out, share a space with all my family photos, but limited family to read only. Sweet!
you r really good i can not stop to see ur useful videos... i dont understand why dont u have more viewers. Anyways keep going this good and thnks!
When you create a shared space and add photos, does it copy the actual photo or just a link. Example: you put 100 photos in from your collection so now they are taking up twice the space?
That’s actually a good question (that I actually do not know the answer to)
I believe that if you have a BTRFS volume it should use the instant copy feature to reference the same data (if this is true you would not use more space)
@@SpaceRexWill Talked to 2 syno techs, according to them, it just creates a link. No space is used!
@@cyberwasp461 well, that was not that obvious in moments, actually, files are stored in home/drive/moments, /homes/username/moments, and shared content was/is stored in /photo/...
When a phone was synced with moments, there was yet another subfolder created for every new device under /home/drive/moments/device_name. The /home & /homes are linked together (check file path in file properties), but /photo shared content is duplicated. I wonder then if Photos now solves this and shared space is not duplicated. That can take up or save a lot of storage space, especially when videos are in the libraries. I guess this might be checked very easily by comparing file paths in properties on DSM7. Can you look at it, guys?
When you set photos as shared, they move from your "home/Photos" folder to shared "photo" folder in your file station root.
@SpaceRex - Will, for a husband and wife with separate phones uploading photos and videos.... would you set it up for both devices to be uploaded to the Admin account photos? Or to individual users with a shared space? I don't want to be duplicating the photos and videos so both of us can access them. But you said that you don't want to be accessing or using the Admin account very much after initial setup, but photos upload and access is a daily thing. This video seems like you would be using the Admin account for all you photo storage... and not the "Will" user. ??
Great video - I like details and your examples were great
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this amazing video. You just make these steps so simple. Appreciated
Thanks for this video. Without it I would probably have thrown my Synology DS423+ against the wall at high speed with considerable force. I have subscribed and look forward watching your other videos explaining the inner workings in a way I can understand.
When sharing things to the share space does that copy the file from your user-specific folder? Thus there would be 2 copies on the NAS for the exact same file?
It looks like DSM 7.1 has addressed your wish for more granular access permissions in the shared photo folder. It's quite different from this video. You may want to do a short update video.
Synology looks interesting. Thanks to your "Install Nextcloud on a RaspberryPi ", I've been using Nextcloud on a rapsberry pi 4 running on an SSD. It's great for syncing files and photos. Like you, I just dumped my 58,000 photos from the past 20 years then ran a dedup script. It does okay, not as easy as Google, but at least it's private. Makes it easy to share links to to individual photos, folders, or "favorites". I also like the Nextcloud client that works very similar as dropbox but with better features (like NOT requiring location sharing with a 3rd party upload).
Really good! Helped me to figure it out. Thx!
Great video!
I would like to backup my wife and my cell phone photos , apply facial recognition and create a SINGLE shared dynamic album about our son.
Now I backup cell photo from each personal account, but can admin access to both personal photo backup folder (of me and my wife) with its Photo package to apply facial RECOGNITION and create a shareable unique dynamic album about our son ?
Hi @doesexistthisname, I asked Synology a similar question earlier this week and the short answer I received was no. In particular, my question was about whether I could share the AI/facial recognition date between users to save me having to manually identify the same faces on another user account.
Can I suggest that you also put in a feature request for this:
From Synology: [ If you have any further feature requests or idea's on how we can improve our software, feel free to submit these through our dedicated feature form online: www.synology.com/en-us/form/inquiry/feature
Unfortunately, it isn't possible to provide a timescale as to when this may be included, but the more requests our developers receive for a specific feature, the greater the likelihood of implementation. ]
@@WrathOfVaz Thanks, request done!
i really just want to make a shared album from my private photos with my girlfriend. But she can just delete the photos she added. If we both could add/delete everything, it would be perfect. any knowledge if this feature is planed?
because with the shared folder, if my girlfriend deletes photos, they will be also deleted for me. If its a shared album, the foto would be kicked out, but if it was my photo, i would still have it.
excellent video , clear instructions . Hope you can do another video on how to migrate pictures from an online service like Google photos /onedrive etc to Synology . I think Google photo resets the photo taken date when you try and take pictures out so not straightforward.
Any idea how to take pics from Google photos and merge them with the .jason files to keep the meta data? I downloaded all my photos from Google takeout, and they all have the same date that I copied them to my Synology NAS.
BTW awesome video. You really helped me with sharing photos to my family.
I have a question. When I upload pictures to the NAS by using Synology Photos, I notice that the NAS puts them in my personal space. So far no problem.
But I want the pictures to be put into subfolders on the NAS, so that all pictures that belong together, stay together in their own subfolder.
Is that possible from within Synology Photos? I know that you can put them together in Albums, but I'd rather have them in subfolders too.
Until now I upload the pictures manually via SMB-upload. But I was hoping that this could be done easier over Syn Photos.
Thank you so much for all the videos you've prooduced on Synology NAS - I've finally bought one and find the videos invaluable. One strange thing I've noticed on Photos is when you copy photos from the personal folder to the shared folder it seems necessary to go through the whole 'People' sorting in both locations as a separate exercise - is this correct or is there some way to share all the face recognition across from the personal folder to the shared folder
Great video thank you. As i understood, if I want to have a shared album with your family in which they can view my photos and ad their photos, we have to use the shared space. But in that case I will duplicate all my photos from Personal space and shared space ...
Same as Moments, which i currently use
Yes, though if you want all of the photos in shared space, why not just keep them all in shared space? also if you use the fast clone option (and have BTRFS) it actually would not increase your space
@@SpaceRexWill interesting, clone on BTRFS is not a copy, right? Do you mean to copy all library to shared photo folder, then delete personal one to avoid duplication? Files duplication is rather poor option, folder permissions for various users would do the trick enough well. I hoped this will be solved on Photos. What with mobile syncs? I suppose when files are moved to shared space, mobile will try to sync it again with user/device folder?
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you for your videos! Should I copy or move content from the personal to the shared folder? Copy won't duplicate the files if the Fast Clone Option is active?
Thanks!
Hey thanks man!
Great video. These are things I didn't know. I'm saving this for later.
I really like synology photos. But sadly they removed the object recognition. That was an awesome feature
Thanks a lot it was really a big help.
Does the shared folder store actual photos or links to photos in the personal folder? Thanks - your videos are great and appreciated.
@SpaceRex Enabled the share link where the Public can view and download. But people who don't have Synology accounts cannot see the shared album or Shared photos outside of my network. Please provide the resolution.
Thank you thank you and some "Yada Yada" ;-)
I’m glad people like my interjections lol
@@SpaceRexWill Seinfeld Season 8; Episode 19
Where should I store all my family photos? Under "Home/Photos" or the shared root folder called "Photo"? If each one of my 4 family members has a user account? Right now, all my family photos are under the "Home/Photos" folder & we all long into the same admin user account. After learning more about security, it might be best if we each have our own user account into the NAS. However this is where things get tricky regarding accessing the family photos since there in the Home/Photos root folder. Can or should I just move all our family photos to the "Photo" root folder under file station - and everyone would have access to the "shared space" and each user would have thier personal space for backing up there iphone or whatever. Lasty, if the admin turns off Shared space, the root folder goes away - I don't loose my photos, do it?
HI SpaceRex. I'm new user of DS 220+.I have one question, please...I already uploaded some photos in Synology Photos. I created Albums....but i don't know how to share these albums to other users of my NAS so these users will have the same names of these albums and that face recognitions will work.
Good video. Thanks. The key use of NAS for my family was keeping all the photos at one place. It is especially important when we travel and take the pictures by different devices. Manual sharing and collection at one place is always a headache. I do not like to use suggested approach with personal and shared space as there will be manual work by moving from one folder to another or duplication of pics. Instead I decided to use one "home media' user account and logged in all the family members on their mobile Syn Photo, then each decides if he/she wants to make full back up of the photos to NAS automatically from Iphone Photos or select pics manually. as we use the same account we see all the photos collected together with no manual work. The only challenge under such scenario is keeping the pics safe from accidental deletion by kids if they are logged in.
I wonder if there's a no delete option?
@@supernumex I could not find. Only allow-deny setup at user’s level.
Hello, thanks for your channel that i just discovered. as far as i understand what you've done, you copy the photos in the "photo" folder in order to have the shared photos enabled ni the Memberfamily page? is that mean that we have to duplicate the photos in order to share? sounds weird...
my usage today :
2 smartphones with a single account User1--> we can see both of our photos
an user2 with his smarphone : he can see its photos of course but i would like to share a big part of the album of the User1 with the user2. Today i click on the share button piece by piece avoiding those i don't want to. is there a better way?
I cannot figure out how to give the family member the ability to “share” photos with anyone. The share icon does not show on the family member’s account despite me following all of the set up steps shown in this video? Is this just bad luck or am I missing a “take it for granted” step that I should know?
It seams Synology Photos external link only works inside the network.
I wasn't able to share photos with external link outside my home network.
Lost me at 1:30. You say that one needs to be in the Admin account to setup Photo sharing, but when you open up Photos, you are viewing photos in your Homes/User/Photo folder. How does that work? When I open my Photos package from the Admin account, I see the Admin's Photo folder, not the User's folder. I missed the step on how you instruct Photos to open a User's account (not the Admin's.)
[Also, back on my desktop, I see my NAS with a Photos folder, but it shows what is in the Admin's folder, not the User's? Something is setup wrong, but I can't figure out what to change.]
Instead of enabling the Shared Space, I usually create Albums and share those with people with a password or with login information.
Hi, great video, BUT: What is the best way to, create a shared folder/album to the stranger simply just to upload it's photos/videos to one folder and thats it? I've tried to file request but this does not upload metadata from iPhone. I've tried share album to "provider" permission user and he's not able to upload from his phone, via the shared album link. Only if he logs into the quickconnect.... I'm desperate for this topic. Often going for a weekends with different people. I simply want to send then a link to upload photos after the trip and then share all photos to all of them... An answer or link to a video would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I backup my mobile phone to personal space but want to share many of the photos with family members in the shared space but also keep them on my personal space. Will this create a duplicate of the photo in different folders?
Great video as always.
I’ve been using Photos to back up my photos for a little while now, but this video has made me think I have set it up incorrectly.
On my NAS, I have a main admin user account that I used to do all the admin stuff. Then for Photos I use my “normal” non-admin user account - all my phone photo backups occur under my this account. I try to keep the admin account purely for admin.
However I now realise that using Photos generally via my non-admin account, I am limited in what I can do. I can’t create a shared space for example.
Is there a way of my non-admin user an admin only in Photos so my non-admin account has admin abilities only in Photos?
That’s Great. 🙏🏼
I want share a folder from my personal space to a shared space but cannot figure out how to do it. I can create an album but I'm avoiding that for now. Suggestions?
Can I disable mobile backup for specific users and or groups? I didn't find that option...
Hi there! Awesome video. Quick question - do you need to give family access to the “photo” folder on the nas itself - if they want to add photos and keep the file structure?
How do I edit tagged labels when they are automatic made and made by myself. Now It seems static and will not ne modified or deleted.
How do you access Synology Photos without going through DSM?
@7.34m setting access permissions to users under photos settings shared space set access permissions. It all different and the wonderful video instruction fails have no idea how to give access to photo app users access to personal space and a shared folder on the nas. Could you help out. Synology have obviously changed something
I have so much photos on Google Photos and I really want to get them to my Synology Photos without losing the meta data on them. Could you please make a video for that too? It would really help. Thanks
Hello Will,
How can i share files from my mobile backup in my "personal space" with the folder i created on my "Shared space" under all photos ? Do i have to copy them there, loosing space on my disk? better to move them ? what should i do ? Thank you !!
I have Synology on DSM 7.1. I have Photos set up and it works great for me. As the admin, I use QuickConnect for all of my personal access at home or outside the home. I set up a family member USER (brother) and he lives out of state. How can I get him a link to use that will allow him to access his shred folder. I have logged in as him here at homeland it all looks set up properly, he just needs to be able to log in.
Thanks for the video! I am using DSM7.1 and Synology Photos. Just received my NAS a few weeks ago so still playing around with it and trying to understand all the settings, etc. But is there a way that I can create a shared album and put photos into it as well as my wife or family members be able to upload pictures into that same shared album? so if we went on a vacation, we both take pictures, now we want to upload our pictures to one shared album say, "vacation", is there a way to do that? Also, if I download all my photos from my phone, if I get a new phone, how do I upload all my photos back to my phone or select which ones I want back on my phone? is there a restore function?
Great video, Can you please make a video on Gmail, Google Keep, Etc to Synology?
Thanks for the guide..going to set this up for my parents as it's annoying to share photos with them currently. Me and my dad have android and my mom and wife have iPhone. It compressed pics and videos of sent via text message.
Having everything on Synology actually has been great for my family! Plus if something better comes along you can just easily transfer your photos out, something that cannot be said for google
so there is no way to share photos to a person who is not a user of my NAS over the internet? well, i thought synology said it is a replacement for Google photo or OneDrive pictures, which they can share to whomever.
Thanks for the helpful info! This is exactly why I bought my NAS - To manage family videos and videos. I still have a question - How do I create Albums in the Shared Space for all users to see? I have two users (My Admin account, and my wife's account). I'd love to be able to create Albums as a way to organize our photos and give her access to it. Having to share every single Album seems cumbersome. Surely there's a way she can have access to the Albums I created in the "Albums" tab, right?
Did you find an answer to this? I'm also searching for this exact way to collaborate and it doesn't seem this is possible.
Shame I can’t share my “people” album to my family who have access to all the same photos. Does anyone know if this is possible ??
(EDIT: I upgraded to 1200 Mbps downstream, 40 Mbps up, and still the vids buffer as stated below. What's next ?)
Why might my MP4 video clips in Synology Photos (shot in 4k 60) be playing back so poorly - constant buffering, choppy?
Connected to a 920+ (SHR2) via SMB on my mac desktop. Upload speed 23 mbps. download 500 mbps. 14 TB of free space. In addition, the same videos just don't play back at all for users attempting to view these clips via a link on a mobile phone browser.
Sigh. I had really high hopes.
Since your video, some DSM7 windows has changed in the access permissions.
I would like to share some folders, but without access to delete or move my photos. But as I see it I have to go into each folder and subfolders and create them with only Entry because with Management they can also delete and move my photos. Do you have an easier way to do this?
Regards
Kim/Denmark
Any possibility of a video showing how to migrate from iCloud Photos to Synology Photos?
If you have an iPhone it’s really easy. Just download the photos app and do a mobile backup
@@SpaceRexWill Appreciate the quick response!!! Would the photos app allow for an ongoing mirrored experience automatically between iPhotos and Photos? Thanks again!
@@SpaceRexWill Would the Photos up backup the compressed version of photos from iCloud or the full uncompressed? Thank you!
Can I restrict storage limit for a user?
Greta video at minute 6:14 could you explain this more i have problems sending photos from my file to my moments i didn’t upgrade yet on ds7 but is a question i always have
Appreciate your knowledge
I'm considering using this to collaborate with clients on photo albums. One of our small businessess biggest struggles is getting client feedback on the reordering of the chronology of photos. Would this allow us to share an album with clients for them to be able to drag and drop the photos into a different chronology. Would we then be able to lock in the new order by changing filenames before we exporting out and into our design software?
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Hi, what is the AI logic sitting behind Synology Photos. Does it eliminate duplicates ? or how does it treat them?
Great video as always SpaceRex. Do you happen to have any tutorials on mobile backup using Synology Photos? Does Photos have an app on app store or play store?
Ah its a very simple setting in the DSM7 photos (mobile) app. its "phone backup"
@@SpaceRexWill thanks!!
@@SpaceRexWill Can all family members backup their own mobile photos when they have their own account? :)
It looks like he missed when sharing from personal space there is a view only option. Which means there isn't an issue opening it up for deletion.
Hi Will. Great video! I got a 1621+ and trying to set up TWO separate users for Synology Photos (me and my GF). We want photos to be private for both accounts (no common area between the accounts set up (but I understand admin can always access files))
Interface for uploading and downloading is over wifi and SD card.. but also it would be VERY convenient for both of us to have an individual/personal folder that contains or private images on our personal laptops (win 10).
If you could cover such scenario in a video it would be very helpful indeed.
That is something I really wish was built into Synology Drive, but unfortunately the personal Synology Photos is the only folder you cannot sync to your laptop in drive unfortunately.
What might be the best bet is a resilosync between them
My preference was to enable each user upload to shared and then shift specific photos to personal. Most of our photos can be shared and organised by tags. I have not found a way to shift from shared to personal. I can do it the other way though.
You should be able to select where uploaded photos
Hi
This is getting very complicated.
I have used your set-guide.
And that is okay.
And I have used Synonogy Photos Mobile.
And it works too.
But not in the way that I want.
I want to show friends photos from speciel folders on my NAS
In Photos Mobile there is a lot things to do before reaching the photos I want to present to them.
I would like to present the albums to the user and he is able to start a diasshow.
Do you know of a way to do this or an app that can do that simple task.
Or do I have to set it up my self?
regards
Morten
PS: Very good video by the way. Your speak is very nice!
I don't want that admin could see all photos of other users through the app file station. How can I do?
You cannot change this
Does the family member that has access to your family photos,
Need to have a synology account before they can log into see the photos ?
Yes that’s how this is setup. You can also just do a public link to share with them
Perfect - just what I needed 💪😊.
Can I somehow sync shared photos with my Windows computer? Because os poor internet connection, it would be nice to have the photos on nas AND on my pc...
Just use Synology Drive to link any directory on your PC to the directory containing the photos on your NAS
I have not yet got myself a NAS: after I have set one up, do the people I share with also need to install DSM photos?
No! Just give them access and they will be able to
hey, I have question regarding sharing photos, I have family abroad who I want them to upload /share thier photos to the nas (ds920+) so I can back them up to external storage whilst having a copy on the nas, what option do I have to achieve this?
Setup a shared album on here and then use a hyperbackup, single version, backup job to do it nightly
New album -> Personal space + All?
Really great explanation of sharing and the shared space. Unfortunately I found out that the facial recognition did not carry the names of faces over to the shared user, just a "Who is this"" under each face that it carried over to the share user. Album sharing works well but each photo thumbnail in an album has my admin username on it as an overlay. It's not very nice looking. With luck this app will get better in a future upgrade. For now I'm looking into an Open Source docker based alternative.
Hi, I've experienced the same which is incredibly annoying when you have thousands of photos. Could I kindly ask you to spare a minute and request 'face recognition sharing' as a feature:
"If you have any further feature requests or idea's on how we can improve our software, feel free to submit these through our dedicated feature form online:" www.synology.com/en-us/form/inquiry/feature
How do I map this share in windows as a network drive to enable all family members to copy photos into the folder or create sub folders by themselves?
Just map the “photo” folder
Is there a way to go directly to the shared space directly from the mobile device syncing?
yes you can just select it
The new user needs access to DSM (under Assign Application Permissions 4:45 ) to get at the desktop. That is not set by default currently. If it's not DSM, it's something else that cost me an hour of "You are not authorized to use this service."
I'm starting to think that someone at Synology has been watching these vids - every time you have a complaint about something, I'm seeing that it is usually fixed in the latest updates in DSM.