True. It wouldn't have cost much. I suppose there's so much variance with different markets. Who knows? But it's a powerful performer, and I was more than impressed with it. I think at 75W it should cover most people's needs. And at the prices these go for, it's so hard to knock them. It's a great option for those of us on a tight budget 😊
@RetroComputingReboot You got this from a viewer? @2:39 Does the Paper say: "I had built this one..." ? So maybe he built this one as DIY Kit an did not connect the Case to PE. I watched a ton of T12 Videos, KSGER vs. Quicko/Quecoo. KSGER had the case not grounded issues ~4 years ago, and many comments talked about Quicko beeing superior because grounded by factory as default. Of course this refers to the ready for use ones, not the DIY Kits.
@hectorpascale1013 Yes that's right. I believe it was built from a kit. However, the kit did not contain parts to ground the case or directions to do so. Hope that helps
@@TzwerI'm wondering the same thing. How can a $25 portable pencil style iron beat out a versatile soldering station that's 3 times the wattage ? Seeing as there is no response to your question, that makes me very suspicious. How is a battery powered iron supposed to compete with a large high power unit? I bet the reason they "hated it" is something like: the cord got in my way, the interface is too complicated. The pinecil is a $25 iron with a supposed 32 bit CPU in it. When $25 barely buys a dumb 60 watt iron. Highly suspect. The pinecil is so small, how does the CPU not fry next to the heating element? Looks like snake oil to me.
The pinecil has a 30 day warranty. Are you effing kidding me? That is certainly a very conservative warranty period, and gives me zero confidence in the product. Also, how does a 32 bit CPU help a soldering pencil to be "smart" ? It's snake oil product. So many bad reviews on Amazon, the 30 day warranty says it all: the product is a dumpster fire. Bad reviews say: failed after 3 months, pen will not function as it gives a false "no tip inserted" message $25. I almost want to buy one just to tear it down and see there's no CPU inside. 32 bit RISC 144 mhz processor my shiny metal ass. The official product page is also great at not making sense. Copied directly from the product manufacturers page: "DISPLAY Type: OLED White Colour Monochrome" Brilliant.
Well done. I enjoyed the video. The two types of tips are equal and hte T12 are a lot quicker at heating up as you have found out. I love making these from kit form and 3d printing hte cases for them. Some I have bought the case for them, but they can cost the same as a kit, doubling the price. But I have made cases from plastic drain pipes and guttering too. Using a heat gun to flatten the plastic out and reshaping, but depends on the size of the pipe / guttering. China does not have earth products and although they know UK and US as well as some othert parts of the world do have earthed electricals, they just dont place earth leads on them. The newer so0lderingh stations, like expensive JBC and the cheaper Yihau and other makes that use the C245, C210 and C115 tiops are a lot quicker still to heat up at around 6 seconds to heat hte tip at 400c. The handles are thinner and tips are smaller. I suppose it is technology today. I remember the older plug in irons without adjustable tenps and they just take around 20 mins to 30 mins to heat up, but were always around 400 c.
Thanks for the T12 station. I love it. Its a brilliant bit of kit and it will get used plenty 😊. I have plug in soldering iron somewhere, although I haven't seen it in years 😂. I honestly can't believe how good the T12 actually performs. It's only after you've been soldering for a while that you actually appreciate a good iron. I know, there will be people out there that declare these as cheap rubbish BUT even if theses died every year or so, it would still work out good value. I have to judge it on the quality of the soldering, and I'm more than happy with the results.
@@RetroComputingReboot Glad you are happy with it. People comparethem to real expensive onjes and I cant see why someone would pay £100 to £1000 to buy a soldering station when there are decent cheaper ones that do the same job. Happy soldering.
@@ianallen2I see soldering irons for $360 that people call "affordable" It's like the people who buy a $300 electric toothbrush. An electric toothbrush is a motor with an offset weight on the shaft, a 555 timer and a coil to charge it. Some people love overpaying and pretend more $ is always better. Look at how successful Apple Computers is, selling hardware at 3x market value, crippling the components to be unrepairable with DRM, and people love them. A soldering iron is a heat source and a controller. As long as the core components are robust enough to handle the electrical and thermal load, and the controller is accurate enough, there is no reason why that costs $300-900. I buy a Quicko iron with Hakko soldering tips. Best of both worlds.
I like your Pac Man ghost light. I have the same one. 💪🏼😺👍🏼
For just a few pence they could have earthed that case.. good spot!
Nice to have a "daily drive" iron and a spare 👍🏻
True. It wouldn't have cost much. I suppose there's so much variance with different markets. Who knows?
But it's a powerful performer, and I was more than impressed with it. I think at 75W it should cover most people's needs. And at the prices these go for, it's so hard to knock them.
It's a great option for those of us on a tight budget 😊
@RetroComputingReboot You got this from a viewer? @2:39 Does the Paper say: "I had built this one..." ?
So maybe he built this one as DIY Kit an did not connect the Case to PE.
I watched a ton of T12 Videos, KSGER vs. Quicko/Quecoo.
KSGER had the case not grounded issues ~4 years ago, and many comments talked about Quicko beeing superior
because grounded by factory as default. Of course this refers to the ready for use ones, not the DIY Kits.
@hectorpascale1013 Yes that's right. I believe it was built from a kit. However, the kit did not contain parts to ground the case or directions to do so. Hope that helps
I absolutely HATED mine.... I got the Pinecil shortly after and freaking LOVED IT
@@TheAceTroubleshooter I just can't fault mine. I love it 😊
Why?
@@TzwerI'm wondering the same thing.
How can a $25 portable pencil style iron beat out a versatile soldering station that's 3 times the wattage ?
Seeing as there is no response to your question, that makes me very suspicious.
How is a battery powered iron supposed to compete with a large high power unit?
I bet the reason they "hated it" is something like: the cord got in my way, the interface is too complicated.
The pinecil is a $25 iron with a supposed 32 bit CPU in it.
When $25 barely buys a dumb 60 watt iron.
Highly suspect.
The pinecil is so small, how does the CPU not fry next to the heating element?
Looks like snake oil to me.
The pinecil has a 30 day warranty.
Are you effing kidding me?
That is certainly a very conservative warranty period, and gives me zero confidence in the product.
Also, how does a 32 bit CPU help a soldering pencil to be "smart" ?
It's snake oil product.
So many bad reviews on Amazon, the 30 day warranty says it all: the product is a dumpster fire.
Bad reviews say: failed after 3 months, pen will not function as it gives a false "no tip inserted" message
$25. I almost want to buy one just to tear it down and see there's no CPU inside. 32 bit RISC 144 mhz processor my shiny metal ass.
The official product page is also great at not making sense.
Copied directly from the product manufacturers page: "DISPLAY
Type: OLED White Colour Monochrome"
Brilliant.
@Boogie_the_cat 😂 white colour monochrome 😂
Have a great Christmas 🎁🎄
Well done. I enjoyed the video. The two types of tips are equal and hte T12 are a lot quicker at heating up as you have found out. I love making these from kit form and 3d printing hte cases for them. Some I have bought the case for them, but they can cost the same as a kit, doubling the price. But I have made cases from plastic drain pipes and guttering too. Using a heat gun to flatten the plastic out and reshaping, but depends on the size of the pipe / guttering.
China does not have earth products and although they know UK and US as well as some othert parts of the world do have earthed electricals, they just dont place earth leads on them. The newer so0lderingh stations, like expensive JBC and the cheaper Yihau and other makes that use the C245, C210 and C115 tiops are a lot quicker still to heat up at around 6 seconds to heat hte tip at 400c. The handles are thinner and tips are smaller. I suppose it is technology today. I remember the older plug in irons without adjustable tenps and they just take around 20 mins to 30 mins to heat up, but were always around 400 c.
Thanks for the T12 station. I love it. Its a brilliant bit of kit and it will get used plenty 😊.
I have plug in soldering iron somewhere, although I haven't seen it in years 😂.
I honestly can't believe how good the T12 actually performs. It's only after you've been soldering for a while that you actually appreciate a good iron.
I know, there will be people out there that declare these as cheap rubbish BUT even if theses died every year or so, it would still work out good value. I have to judge it on the quality of the soldering, and I'm more than happy with the results.
@@RetroComputingReboot Glad you are happy with it. People comparethem to real expensive onjes and I cant see why someone would pay £100 to £1000 to buy a soldering station when there are decent cheaper ones that do the same job. Happy soldering.
@ianallen2 It solders brilliantly so why pay more?? Very kind of you to send me it
@@RetroComputingReboot You are very welcome. :)
@@ianallen2I see soldering irons for $360 that people call "affordable"
It's like the people who buy a $300 electric toothbrush. An electric toothbrush is a motor with an offset weight on the shaft, a 555 timer and a coil to charge it.
Some people love overpaying and pretend more $ is always better.
Look at how successful Apple Computers is, selling hardware at 3x market value, crippling the components to be unrepairable with DRM, and people love them.
A soldering iron is a heat source and a controller. As long as the core components are robust enough to handle the electrical and thermal load, and the controller is accurate enough, there is no reason why that costs $300-900.
I buy a Quicko iron with Hakko soldering tips. Best of both worlds.
Not up to date. Actual version of T12 is grounded to case
@@MrMultipaco Good to hear
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