Virtua Racing (Sega Saturn)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 апр 2011
  • This video was captured using the actual game on an actual Sega Saturn. All loading times have been removed for your consideration and enjoyment.
    So here we have what is to be thought by many, the worst console port of the awesome arcade Virtua Racing. I strongly disagree. I think that award goes to the Playstation 2 version on the Sega Classics Collection. For the reasons why I think this way please visit my Sega Classics Collection video for V.R. The Saturn port SHOULD have been a perfect port of the arcade. The Saturn was more powerful than the Sega Model 1 board that ran Virtua Racing. So why is this game so heavily flawed? This game was not made by Sega. It was developed by Time Warner Interactive. That's right, Sega outsourced one of their greatest arcades to someone else to let them hack it apart.
    Taking a closer look at this port, there are many signs that this game was extremely rushed. First of all there is absolutely ZERO intro. All you get when the game loads is a horrible, generic, computer drawn image of a F1 car that prompts you to press start. After you press start you come to the main menu which is shown. In the main menu you'll notice the music is out of place. When you get to the track selection screen, you'll notice that the music is the intro to the Bay Bridge track. What happened to the music from the Genesis and 32X versions? Oh it's in the game, but it is not used. If you browse the CD which is all red book audio, you'll find music to the Virtua Racing opening intro, main menu screen, and track selection screen. They obviously planned for all that to be in place, but it didn't make the final cut. Also all the menu songs end without restarting. Looking into the actual gameplay you find even greater evidence of haste. Notice when the pit guys are mounting my tires, the tires mount themselves and the car lowers by itself. Then there is the ultra crappy engine sounds. This has to be one of the biggest disappointments of this port. The engine sounds are all ridiculous. The Prototype car is the best out of all of them, but that's not saying anything. I don't care if it didn't sound exactly like the arcade, but give us something better than an Atari 2600 sound. Other sound effects like crashing is totally just not there. When you bounce around like a beach ball after smacking a wall you hear nothing and your car will also show no signs of damage. Unlike the arcade when your car first starts off from either the starting line or from a crash, your car takes off at a snails pace instead of taking off like a jet. The graphics are passable. Given that these are all flat shaded polygons, the Saturn should have been able to run this game in high resolution instead of the standard 240p. Really though that's just nit picking. The frame rate can be sort of a nuisance. It periodically drops frames and suffers from slowdown all at the same time. The game overall is a tiny bit glitchy. Nothing like Midway Arcade Treasures 3 on PS2, but just a little glitchy. The wheels on every car lack have no detail at all. They just look like hockey pucks on the side UNTIL you finish a race and the camera pans around the car, your wheels then look like wheels. Finally, the game loads after everything. There is a ton of loading spots that just don't make any sense that gets quite annoying after while. These are all signs of an extremely rushed and incomplete title.
    So given all that, how can I not label this port as the worst port ever. Simply because of out of all they got wrong, they got some very important parts right. First the music is very well done even if it is a little too loud over the other sounds in the game which can make it difficult to hear your engine for manual shifting. Second and most importantly the play control is very very good. Thirdly the game is way more than just the three arcade tracks and one car. It has a grand prix mode which features 7 extra tracks and 4 extra vehicles. In the grand prix mode you start out driving a formula go cart. You then graduate to the coupe, to the F-160, to the prototype, then finally to the F1. The extra tracks are designed very well and the harder tracks get very challenging. All the different vehicles handle completely different from each other. In the end this game is actually quite a pleasure to play. I found myself playing more and more without getting board at all. The game may not offer the perfect arcade experience, but it does offer a solid racing experience done in the simple graphical style of Virtua Racing. I would say that if you're looking for the best arcade experience, download MAME. If you're looking for something way more than that, pick this game up. It wasn't even close to worth 50 bucks back in the day when it came out, but I picked this game up for only 5 bucks. It's a whole lot of nostalgic fun for only 5 bucks and I highly recommend it.
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Комментарии • 71

  • @pigpenpete
    @pigpenpete 4 года назад +18

    Just got myself a Saturn and honestly I can't put this game down, despite all it's flaws. I've grown to enjoy the music which is a tasteful update I think, and it keeps some of the arcadey synth sound where it's best used. The engine noise really is pants though, nothing comes close to that lovely sonorous note that the arcade game produced. I'm enjoying it because of the gameplay though, it's a lot of fun even if it is far too easy. There's plenty of extras to beef up the experience which is nice. I'm rather disappointed that practically all the credit to Sega and AM2 have been removed apart from a brief note on the intro video. I've been looking into doing a 'custom' version and rearranging the audio tracks to their rightful positions one day but I'd have no way of playing it.

  • @BillyGsell2011
    @BillyGsell2011 10 лет назад +6

    3:31 sounds like a big fit for the NASCAR on CBS theme music from 1994 - 1998.
    "Welcome back to Atlanta, 91 laps to go!!!! Dale Earnhardt is leading ahead of Geoff Bodine by 2.367 seconds and Terry Labonte by 4.167 seconds at Atlanta!!! and Earnhardt is leading the points race with just 5 races completed!!! and green flag pitstops are coming away and here comes Kyle Petty from 14th place!!!"

  • @paulconnelly4050
    @paulconnelly4050 7 лет назад +12

    The redbook audio in this version shits on all other versions but the car sounds pants.

  • @pimpedoutstereos9747
    @pimpedoutstereos9747 5 лет назад +2

    I had this game on the Saturn growing up. Great memories, I remember racing all the tracks with the go kart. Pretty cool

  • @HarlemHyena
    @HarlemHyena 11 лет назад +3

    9:39 "Coming up when the Late Show returns: Top 10 reasons to buy Virtua Racing! And special guest Yu Suzuki!"

  • @vilangel78
    @vilangel78 2 года назад +3

    Es una versión de Virtua Racing que sinceramente cuenta con muchos defectos técnicos. Sin embargo tiene un encanto muy especial, un "no sé qué" que me atrae muchísimo.

  • @Franysusjuegos08
    @Franysusjuegos08 Год назад +1

    It is incredible that the geniuses of SEGA have been able to predict how the current V6 of the F1 would sound XD

  • @Stojke2K9
    @Stojke2K9 12 лет назад +4

    The music in this is freaking sweet!

  • @Metafron
    @Metafron 10 лет назад +3

    One of the only games i had for m Sega Saturn. Loved it.

  • @sonoma4525
    @sonoma4525 4 года назад +2

    1:53 music is dope

  • @OldsXCool
    @OldsXCool  12 лет назад +3

    @Quartrez For all intents and purposes the 32X is still the definitive console version of VR. The Saturn version would still be the worst if not for the PS2 which controlled terribly. This version was way way below par for what the game should have been on the Saturn, but it is salvageable because it does play very well and has alot of extra content not present in the arcade version. It is a good racing game, it just sucks at being Virtua Racing.

  • @RagemanRM
    @RagemanRM 4 года назад +2

    This is first version(after arcade) what i want to play.

  • @mauricioribeiro3547
    @mauricioribeiro3547 8 лет назад +2

    nostalgic! thank you to upload it

  • @markbalan8274
    @markbalan8274 6 лет назад +1

    Anyone knows a way to restore my Saturn's disk reader? My dad says the laser is broken, I can't really tell what's with it though.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  6 лет назад +1

      Sir Mark If the laser itself is not working then you need a new laser assembly. However alot of times the laser mech could be failing to move like it should which can cause similar problems. I would clean the laser mech rails and corkscrew drive gear with some alcohol and relubricate them with some white lithium grease. Do that before you toss the laser assembly.

    • @markbalan8274
      @markbalan8274 6 лет назад +1

      OldsXCool Thanks, I'll try that sometime.

  • @ManuelLopez-cz7yg
    @ManuelLopez-cz7yg 3 года назад

    Very good review 👍

  • @OldsXCool
    @OldsXCool  11 лет назад

    Read my description.

  • @MrMarukas86
    @MrMarukas86 8 лет назад +1

    i had sega mega drive version spend many many hours playing it i know evry corner and how fast i can go in each corner and lap, cuz your tires geting worse every lap

  • @ShindlerReal
    @ShindlerReal 6 лет назад

    I've noticed on my Saturn that audio is outputed in MONO. I got worried and tried other games and they were in proper stereo so it's not the console. Your footage sounds the same as my Saturn, so I guess I can conclude that they messed up and made the game running in mono even though audio CD files are recorded in Stereo! What a mess.
    I've tried all version except PS2 and Sega 32X is by far the best one, it feels faster (though I'm running it on emulator) and music kick ass in that version.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  6 лет назад +1

      The Saturn port is indeed messy. It should have been the best port of this game by far, but it was outsourced and rushed and it's a miracle that it's as playable as it is. It completely sucks at being the arcade but it's still a pretty good racing game based on it's own merits. However back in the day I was expecting to finally have the arcade in my room and that didn't happen. So the 32X was actually the closest the home ports ever got to the arcade and it was actually good. The PS2 version is terrible. Don't worry you're not missing anything. It looks and sounds the part, but the gameplay is trash.

  • @bjraleigh1439
    @bjraleigh1439 6 лет назад +2

    Sega should have given this game the same treatment as they did with Daytona and Virtua fighter back in the day. It would have been nice to see the game with textures.

  • @HarlemHyena
    @HarlemHyena 13 лет назад

    I just noticed, this is the only game in the Virtua Racing franchise where players can actually jump and catch airtime.

  • @MatSpeedle
    @MatSpeedle 6 лет назад +1

    Seems like it runs way too fast on the Saturn, the voice over guy sounds like he's on speed! >

  • @davidpfol
    @davidpfol Год назад

    way better than the genesis port(not a surprise) and really close to the arcade machine. Those who got their hands on this game back in the day were lucky bastards

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  Год назад

      Honestly we did not see that way. While this port has actually aged pretty well due to all of its extra tracks, cars, and game modes, it was not well received due to lack of parity with the arcade machine. Back then we wanted an arcade perfect version which the Saturn was more than capable of delivering and did not get it. It's kinda funny that we finally got more than a perfect port on the Switch now and I still find myself going back to the Saturn version because it is way more of a complete game, and even though the engine sound sucks, the gameplay is still very good.

  • @UTUBESUCK666
    @UTUBESUCK666 9 лет назад

    Sound pitch too high. 50 FPS PAL version played on 60FPS NTSC?

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  9 лет назад

      Originally I thought you couldn't play PAL games in a NTSC Saturn, but apparently you can with an Action Replay cart. Still the answer is no because I don't even have an Action Replay cart. What is your reference for thinking that the sound pitch is too high?

    • @SuperSaturn55
      @SuperSaturn55 9 лет назад

      OldsXCool get an action replay there are hundreds of qaulity games that are japan only.

  • @boiii3productions945
    @boiii3productions945 6 лет назад

    Why game over after goal

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  6 лет назад

      That's the way the original arcade was. Even if you came in first you had to put more money in to do another race. So it was game over no matter the result of the race.

  • @y100xt3
    @y100xt3 7 лет назад

    MAN, how did you mantained a Sega Saturn in 2011?
    about the V.R. ports, the arcade version, I played it in MAME (is normal that is hard to drive?) and the 32X.. I enjoy playing with stock car. . I have the MD cartridge until today..

    • @robhuanout5443
      @robhuanout5443 6 лет назад

      Matained a Sega Saturn? They're pretty robust systems, perhaps not as solid as the N64 as they have no moving parts but definitely better built then the original Playstation

  • @raidenshields4829
    @raidenshields4829 7 лет назад

    Sega Saturn>32X>Genesis. This game looks a lot funner and better in the Saturn.

  • @DrGreenThumbNZL
    @DrGreenThumbNZL 11 лет назад +2

    I agree controls ruined PS2 ver ,it could have been the best ver otheewise:( i own both megadrive and 32x carts, just missing Saturn disk to have all console ports

  • @AlexanderMazucco
    @AlexanderMazucco 3 года назад

    Pelo menos esse jogo o Saturn entregou direitinho. Por que o Daytona vou te falar viu.

  • @notsuoh16Bit
    @notsuoh16Bit 5 лет назад

    only good thing about this version is the music.

  • @archived527
    @archived527 8 лет назад

    Why did Time Warner Interactive release this rather than Sega?

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 8 лет назад

      +DrDevil FX From what I find out, SEGA was working on the 32X version while so they ware looking a 3rd party to make the SATURN version so that the 32X and Saturn have Virtua Racing at launch.

    • @steve5123456789
      @steve5123456789 8 лет назад

      +CodeNameZ Is the saturn version that bad? Is it worth buying?

    • @archived527
      @archived527 8 лет назад

      Ports by third party companies are very often sloppy compared to the original, to be honest.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  8 лет назад

      +steve5123456789 I think it is. If you want to play the arcade just download the MAME emulator and the V.R. rom. The Saturn version is a good racing game that's fun based on it's own merits and has many added tracks and vehicles not in the arcade. However it greatly pales in comparison to the arcade. If you want to play a fun racing game, play the Saturn version. If you want to play Virtua Racing, play the arcade.

  • @DevilMaster
    @DevilMaster 11 лет назад +3

    How can this be the worst version when it has more cars, more game modes, more tracks and more detail than the 32X and especially than the Genesis version, and it runs smoother than both?

    • @notsuoh16Bit
      @notsuoh16Bit 5 лет назад

      The control of the car is no good, it's extra options are not as good as the 32x version (Best Version) and the Mega drive version is bloody spectacular when you think about it and when you actually play it. I have all of these versions described. Thank you for your eyes.

  • @AndyKusanagi86
    @AndyKusanagi86 6 лет назад

    i know Virtua Racing is a milestone in 3D gaming and all, but the Saturn's capabilities make it look quite dated, especially with games like Daytona USA and Sega Rally on its library.
    then again, i feel that, if Virtua Raging were to be modernized, it wouldn't be Virtua Racing anymore, unlike Virtua Fighter which had managed to remain true to itself even as the graphics evolved.

  • @antrite08
    @antrite08 9 лет назад

    Why hasn't Sega Rereleased this game or something!

  • @retrogeek6868
    @retrogeek6868 9 лет назад

    My favourite saturn game

  • @alexkubrat3868
    @alexkubrat3868 2 года назад

    Got damn get a Megadrive video port to SCART, I am 100% sure this saturn is running off a 220V to 110V power converter. I can hear the buzzing.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  2 года назад +3

      You're 100% sure that I'm using a power converter? Why would I need to use a power converter in the United States where we already have 110V service? Why would I use SCART when that's not even a video standard over here? BTW we don't Megadrive over here because it's called the Sega Genesis. The only thing that you're right about is that there is buzzing that was actually caused by my capture device. You don't have special hearing, you're just a whiny baby.

    • @alexkubrat3868
      @alexkubrat3868 2 года назад

      @@OldsXCool Oh no I got dissed. BTW, your capture card does this? Weird. Are you using any converters like composite to scart or something like that. This happend to me few times that I used an composite to scart to composite again, and it buzzed.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  2 года назад

      @@alexkubrat3868 No converters. It just didn't like certain consoles. I had a similar problem with my Genesis captures. It was cheap and I just did it for fun years ago. I don't even have it anymore.

  • @aaron_aj_knight_95
    @aaron_aj_knight_95 8 лет назад +2

    I say the Genesis version was the worst.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd Год назад

    Am sorry sega fans but i just really really don’t understand why sega brought virtua racing on the sega saturn,to me it seems nothing more then just a desperate cash grabbing tactic from sega in the hopes to convince saturn owners to have the full arcade experience athome,but was the sega genesis not supposed to be the full arcade experience athome?
    Why then also porting it to the sega saturn??
    Sure the saturn version might be better but they already ported it to the 32X to convince genesis owners about the 32X arcade upgrade,but i consider that just as a waste, am mean why would you pay 3 times the same price for a game you already own???
    Same thing with after burner 2 ,
    If sega had just decided to make more exclusive sega saturn games instead rather then cheaply porting their old arcade games to it (wich they already did before on their other systems) am sure the sega saturn would,ve be waaay more successful with their saturn,i really just don’t understand what sega was thinking here

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  Год назад +1

      Even though your assessment is completely wrong I can't blame you as you're looking at this game through the lens of the modern game industry which has the rightfully bad reputation with all the remasters, remakes and rehashes that seems to be the best that the big three can offer. That is not the case with Virtua Racing on the Saturn. There's actually a very interesting story about how this game came to be which you can learn here via this documentary. It's an hour long but completely worth watching.
      ruclips.net/video/BjhDXStrFdc/видео.html
      As for Sega and their exclusives, Sega was MASTER of the arcades back then. Sega's arcades are what we wanted to play at home. Unfortunately Sega's arcade hardware was always bleeding edge and very expensive, so shoehorning their most impressive titles onto a $180 machine ofcourse did not translate well most of the time. Yeah, the claim that Sega made by saying that the Genesis would bring home the arcade experience was hit or miss. Sometimes it did, but most of the time it didn't when it came to games on Sega's more powerful arcades. Games like Alien Syndrome, Altered Beast, Ghouls and Ghosts, Forgotten Worlds, and Road Blasters were all excellent. Outrun, Afterburner, Thunderblade, Super Hang On, Super Monaco HP, anf Galaxy Force 2 were pretty poor. However that should have been expected since the Genesis was aging hardware while the arcades continually got newer hardware.

    • @johneygd
      @johneygd Год назад

      @@OldsXCool hey thanks for mentioning this i watched it and i am very impressed with it,but it still does makes me wonder why sega gave tengen executives permission to make a virtua racing port for the saturn since there were already many versions of that game, unless sega commited them to add modern textures to it to give it a more modern feel,BUT admittedly those 7 extra tracks did add up to it’s value.

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  Год назад

      This port actually is not a bad game. It's actually a pretty good racing game. It just sucks at being the arcade. The added tracks and cars are really nice. I've emulated the arcade in MAME and I also have the switch port. I still play the Saturn one the most because of all of the extra content and it controls very nice.

  • @eliasnicolasmiranda4940
    @eliasnicolasmiranda4940 5 лет назад

    the music is the only best part of the game

  • @MegaBronsky1
    @MegaBronsky1 9 лет назад +1

    32x version is better

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  8 лет назад +1

      +charvelgtrs I go into some of the reasons why people think this in my description. In short, the Saturn version is a solid racing game, but it sucks at being a good port of the arcade. The 32X was a much more faithful port of the arcade despite have much less polygons on screen and a running at a lesser yet more stable frame rate. The 32X version had the spirit of the arcade. The Saturn version does not. However the Saturn port has more cars and more tracks than the 32X version which adds longevity to the game. It plays very well and is a decent game based on it's own merit. Compared to the arcade it's almost not even the same game.
      That being said, the only thing that beats playing the arcade version in MAME with a Logitech steering wheel is the actual arcade cabinet itself. That is something that not even the 32X version can touch. So unless you can afford the actual arcade cabinet, the order of best to least IMO goes like this.
      1. MAME
      2. Saturn
      3. 32X
      4. Genesis
      And a very distant 5. PS2

    • @DevilMaster
      @DevilMaster 8 лет назад +2

      +OldsXCool So the 32X version has less polygons AND it's less smooth than the Saturn version, but somehow it's a better port? How does that even work?
      And how would you define "spirit of the arcade"? I'm asking because I would define it as "nonsensical attempt to justify a falsehood".

    • @OldsXCool
      @OldsXCool  8 лет назад

      +DevilMaster Don't come on to my channel telling me that I'm speaking nonsense just because you don't agree with my assessment of the various ports of Virtua Racing. These are just video games, not politics.
      However I will illustrate for you what I meant by "spirit of the arcade". Virtua Racing the arcade from it's menu system, music, sound, and gameplay has a certain aesthetic. The menus are quick, the sound and music is loud and bold, the gameplay is fast. At the starting line your car takes off like a rocket from a stopped position and your engine screams as your car climbs in speed. The frame rate is solid which provides an excellent sense of speed. The music in between checkpoints even further augments the excitement of racing. The 32X version though it lacks in polygon counts and runs at a third of the frame rate of the arcade still has all the aesthetics of the arcade.
      Now let's look at the Saturn version. The menu systems are very slow with the music being out of place along with tons of unnecessary loading screens. This was because the game was rushed. Your car all but crawls up to it's top speed from a stopped position instead of taking off like it does in the arcade. The music is slower paced live recordings versus the arcade's more upbeat chip music. The sound effects are either nonexistent or they straight up suck. You car sound is a single tone that could have been done better on an Atari 2600 sound chip. While the target frame rate is higher in the Saturn version the frame rate suffers a lot from significant slowdown which robs you of sense of speed. While the 32X version runs at 20 frames per second, it is a solid 20 frames. Pretty much the only aesthetic that Saturn version got right was play control which still makes it a solid racing game but it's a poor port of the original arcade. While the Saturn version feels good as a racing game, it does not feel like Virtua Racing hence not having the "spirit" of the arcade.

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 8 лет назад

      +DevilMaster Here is it what happen, the 32x version was made by SEGA the same guys who made the arcade version, while the saturn version was made by a 3rd party.
      Thats why the 32x version have better controls more faithful to the arcade

    • @bizarroeddie1
      @bizarroeddie1 7 лет назад

      DevilMaster are you that idiot? Saturn version is a piece of crap. It's better on sounds only. The visuals aren't better as they are much more different to the arcade than the 32 version is. Controls suck too, there are loading times everywhere.
      It's awful. And i bet you never played it, otherwise you wouldn't write the bullshit you wrote.