@@barrypearce1078 What's even cooler about the port is that all of the music is played with just the YM2612 and SN76496. Yep, that's right. None of the songs use the 32x's own 2-channel PWM chip at all!
check out openlaura, tomb raider 1 running on the 32x (early porting development). we're starting to see that the 32x is more capable than we were lead to believe. i'm almost convinced now that the 32x was capable of a 1:1 port of this game or that there should be zero difference between the two aside the music.
The saturn version is a poor 3rd party port, whereas the 32x version is an excellent port done by sega themselves. The saturn couldve been so much better.
id argue the 32x has a more consistent framerate (meaning it doesnt decrease or increace every 3 seconds like the saturn) and handles slightly better than the saturn.
I owned both original. In my opinion Saturn version (which i also played with official Sega Saturn steering wheel) even if with some better quality sprites poligon and better framerate, was horrible to play, missed everything that made the original, 32X version, it was far from be coin op perfect for sure, but on the other side, did an incredible job with handling of Stock cars, which was much more similar to the concept of Daytona USA than Virtua Racing, only much better than any version of Daytona itself on Saturn... That game will stay in my heart Forever...
@@stefanomazzarello4771 whilst the saturn had a better framerate on paper, it wasnt as consistent compared to the 32x ver. the Saturn port would dip at lows of 15-25 at times and reaching highs of 30 at others.
I remember getting Virtua racing for the first time and thinking how awesome the graphics were. Damn how far we have come! Still we have a lot to learn when it comes to gameplay because those old games really still have great gameplay.
The gameplay on VR Virtua Racing is still very good by today's standards. It's one of my all-time favorite racers, especially the eight-car linked version they had at EPCOT. I understand many Dave & Busters (combo bar/eatery & arcade) locations also have that version of Virtua Racing in their arcades, too. None of the console conversions of Virtua Racing were arcade perfect. They also re-released Virtua Racing on the Sega Ages collection for the PS2. Several Model 2 games were ported to PS2 -- Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter 2, etc. A few games were bundled together on one Sega Ages disc collection for PS2 in North America. Virtua Racing on that disc but it's not perfect. It's acceptable but there's a feel to the arcade they never captured on the home versions. Daytona on PC and Saturn was far closer to the arcade version.
Claudio liriano probably not, the Model 1 board was significantly more powerful than the Saturn, and though it didn’t have textures it had a very high polygon count it could push at 60fps. Best way to think of it, Saturn was a jack of all trades master of none, and the model 1 board was just a master of flat polygons. The Model 2 conversions they could creatively hide things behind the texture maps. VF2 characters had a lot less polygons compared to the arcade, and the backgrounds were flat assets. Great gameplay and art direction helped that game. Daytona was awful.
Yeah, as it is the Saturn version only looks slightly better than the 32X version which is odd considering the Saturn is a significantly more powerful console hardware wise than the 32X. If Sega AM2 did the Saturn port I feel they could have made the Saturn version a lot better, almost arcade perfect.
i had all the two versions of the game, and i have no doubt about the fact that the best version is absolutely the 32x version, even if the graphic and frame rate were absolutely better on the Sega Saturn version. The 32x version of Virtua racing was giving the best atmosphere of the coin op version, and the Sega Saturn version was giving a "flat feeling" to me. I also think, that the 32x version of Virtua Racing "Deluxe" was the best console porting of a Sega Racing Arcade racing on a home system in the 90's, second place was Sega Rally on Sega Saturnbon 1996.
I own all three, and Genesis version is hardest to control from what I remember. 32x and Saturn control better. Saturn version has more options, but 32x no load time. If I had to pick my favorite, I'd probably go with 32x version.
Ha ha! The amount of times I would hear that when we went drinking / playing pool in a massive games place called Dave & Busters in B'ham UK. It was the signature sound of any arcade in the 90s. Kids now won't even know the thrill of the latest coin op arriving at your local cinema or bowling alley.
It's awesome how Sega pushed the Mega Drive until the end. The Mega Drive was already more powerful than the PC Engine and on par with the SNES but they still expanded its capabilities 2 times, first with the Mega-CD and later with the 32X. Just, it's too bad that the 32X was so poorly managed, it was too much at once with the Saturn coming around the same time... Still it has some great games, which is what matter in the end, and Virtua Racing Deluxe is one of these!
It was not. The pricessor was 2x faster, what made the Genesis better for side scrolling action games. But that‘s it. SNES had mode 7 and a much better graphics unit. Good luck running Donkey Kong Country on Genesus. And i say that as a Sega man.
Its too bad they didn't do many more of these cross platform ports between the 32X and Saturn, would have liked to see a version of Sonic R and a few others on the 32X.
Atari7800 atari it could be difficult or almost impossible to port without massive sacrifices. Daytona USA runs on far more powerful hardware than any console of its generation, even than the N64. 32x can handle fine Model 1 games but it isn't capable enough for Model 2 games like Daytona USA which runs at 57.5/60 fps.
Atari7800 atari ~ there was an april fool where if you go on baybridge circuit on 32x vracing and spell "Daytona" on the section of open carpark near bottom of track there was apparently a demo of Daytona on 3 7 speedway. Alas it was a lie.... an april fool. Cheers sega magazine uk. I spent hours trying!
Normally the 32x version looks brighter than the Saturn version but not in this video. They are both great games but the 32x version obviously has better control and gives more feel of the Arcade. I always felt though that cartridge based games are better than Cd. The actual Arcade Virtua Racing isn't running off of CD. Some may say the Saturn version has better sound than the Arcade version but 32x version sounds closer to the Arcade. Being that im a big fan of 64 Bit/32 Bit Cartridges I love the Sega 32X, Atari Jaguar & Nintendo 64. I hated all the loading time too in cd based games.
Gotta love Carts! I collect Jaguar and 32X to this day! Lots of Jaguar Home-brew still going on. Disappointing nothing new for 32X all these years later...
Ummm...the carts were great when that was all we had. However, disc based media expanded gaming far beyond what any cart can ever hope to do and it's still happening today. I own/owned every cart based machine that has ever released in the states starting with the Atari 7800 (1984 test launch) all the way to the Nintendo Switch. While carts were great once games like Suikoden I-II, Final Fantasy VII, Symphony of The Night, Panzer Dragoon I-II, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Dragon Force, Metal Gear...starting hitting across disc based platforms the cart was done. Those amazing experiences would have been impossible on a cart based system at the time. I would gladly choose to have loading times of 2 to 3 minutes a piece just to experience those games again for the first time. I only included 5th generation consoles but...the Sega Dreamcast also fits and the loading times on it were greatly, greatly improved. There is no way a 94Mb N64 cart has a chance against a 1.2GB GD-ROM (basically CD ROM tech).
Absolutely, the loading times on consoles like Saturn, Sega CD and Playstation was an absolute joy killer for me. We were so used to not having the loading times. For me N64's choice to go with cartridge rather than CD was an absolute win and it really shows in a game like Ocarina of Time which blew 100% of the PS1's offerings away in terms of graphics, immersion and gameplay, not to mention it has 100% in-game 3D rendered cutscenes rather than the awful looking FMV cutscenes that were present in CD based games.
The 32X version is very impressive especially seeing how it was a launch title for the 32X. I have it and really enjoy it and the added tracks and cars are a great bonus. All that Virtua Racing goodness with zero load screens. I do not have the Saturn version and never played it but it does look good but I heard the controls were a little off. All this just makes you really wonder what the 32X was capable of if it had a longer life span and developers had more time with the hardware. Thanks for the video.
I love the 32x and all, but boy, it was a stupid thing to release, having it compete with the Saturn essentially. Still, fun times. I'm glad that I own one, even if it does kinda look like a tumor sticking out of my Genesis...
@@LaskyLabs LOL. I wish Sega was more like Nintendo. Instead of all the in fighting at Sega they could have had a multi-tier approach like Nintendo had with the N64 GBA and made games specific to the platform's strengths. The Saturn could have been home to unique titles like Panzer Dragoon, Nights and Astal whereas the 32X could have been home to Sega's 32-bit arcade ports like Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder, Rad Mobile, and a true arcade port of Super Monaco GP with the occasional 16-bit Genesis game thrown in every now and then. Oh well. It would be cool if we had third-party developers and indie developers make games for the 32X like they have been doing for the Genesis. 32X Doom Resurrection on the 32X is amazing.
the Saturn seems to look kinda nice, although the clipping is really obvious... and it's really smooth. but from what I read the 32x version is better overall? should I get the Saturn version? i saw it for 20$...
The Saturn version in actual gameplay offcoarse runs way closer to the arcade, but the 32X version as a whole felt more like it with the same type of presentation and menu style, Time Warner for reasons unknown changed things up on the Saturn and just made it completely feel different which was unwelcomed to me when they should've just done it arcade perfect menus, presentation, and all, so I give it to the 32X for simply feeling more like the arcade version, but if you really want the straight up arcade perfect version runing at 60fps play it on the PlayStation 2, on a SEGA compilation disc, that version is flawlessly arcade perfect down to the music and sound effects.
What's with the vocal pitching on the Saturn version, the time bonus guy sounds like he's been at the helium :D Love the 32x version, still love to play that.
Sega should have gone back to this game a year or two later to deliver the AM2 Hi res 60fps Bonus tracks edition on Saturn with split screen and local net play Vs.
Esse jogo só mostra que o Saturn seria extremamente desnecessário, caso 32x e SEGA CD fossem bem planejados. Se colocassem os GPU's e os processadores de 32 bits no SEGA CD mesmo que isso levasse um tempo a mais de desenvolvimento, se teria praticamente um console de 32 bits com retrocompatibilidade com um de 16 na mesma mídia de CD.
+Alanzin Se vc colocasse os chips gráficos e os processadores de 32 bits no Sega CD, VC TERIA O SEGA SATURN, PORRA! O Virtua Racing é um dos primeiros jogos lançados pra Saturn, e um dos piores gráficos do console, não deve usar nem 0,1% da capacidade do Saturn. Já no 32X, esses gráficos são os máximos a serem alcançados, dá até pra sentir o cheiro de plástico derretendo quando vc joga isso no Mega com 32X... E outra: Sega CD nem foi um console, foi um acessório do Mega. Que retrocompatibilidade é essa na qual vc precisa ter o console anterior pra jogar?
CowboyTanaka não. O 32x era umas 3 ou 4 vezes inferior ao Saturn, pois tinha apenas um processador de 20 mhz, fraco para rodar os jogos. E porque não colocar um Add-on que fizesse o Mega saltar de geração no lugar de um console que não deu certo? A SEGA além de segurar as pontas nos EUA e Europa, ia dar mais tempo ainda para aprimorarem o Dreamcast.
+Alanzin Segurar as pontas por 4 anos? A Sega quebraria antes de pensar em Dreamcast... O 32X e o Sega CD foram 2 tentativas fracassadas de fazer o que vc falou: fazer o Mega pular de uma geração (16-bit) para outra (32-bit) e aumentar o seu tempo de vida. Vc queria uma terceira? Não se passa pra uma nova geração produzindo um acessório que dependa de hardware antigo e obsoleto. Por isso que o Saturn nunca seria desnecessário. Imagina alguém como eu, que iniciou na 5a geração, ser obrigado a comprar um console da geração passada + 2 acessórios pra poder desfrutar da nova geração, ainda assim resultando em um console totalmente inferior aos outros. Não faz sentido.
Alanzin O Saturn só não deu certo no ocidente, no Japão ele foi um console bem vendido e bem lucrativo para a sega O que matou ele no ocidente foi o marketing bizarro e o briga da sega EUA com a sega JP
Time Warner Interactive does a good job with the music from virtua racing, this is the best on the saturn version, excellent arrangements with a real music band!! Gameplay and Ki on 32x are much better!
Saturn version runs in 60 FPS, however it is missing some details on the track and controls are not optimal. Also , the menu music in the 32X Version just kicks butt! The red book audio on Saturn isn't bad either, but it doesn't fit the game. So I say 32X wins.
The biggest problem the saturn version has is its sound effects,also its got great music but extemely shortened making it feel like it lacks speed,the minor control changes could be overlooked and the speed can be helped by running the pal version forced to 60hz,the music can be edited but again the sfx are a big issue .. also to note the go kart is great on the saturn vr ... its a shame
Both are almost equal for me but, the sound is good in both machines but the details graphic is a little better on Saturn than 32X, because more colorful, bright, contrasted
32x definitely is more of a retro collector novelty... Seeing as these are relatively the same. I'm sure the controls got even better for the Saturn version just as the 32x's got better from the Genesis'... But still, gotta love that charm in that 32-bit gritty flat shaded polygonal goodness... Nnffph. 😆
I play the Saturn version with the steering wheel. Never played the 32x nor the arcade version so i can't tell if it's any better except for my opinion on the game itself. It plays smoothly, the drift mechanics are a lot of fun but the graphics, although i like them, are horrible. I genuinely have a hard time seeing where i'm going sometimes because it's so pixelated. I'm probably spoiled with modern race games where everything looks so smooth and crisp though. Edit: I have this problem mostly when i play in cockpit mode, otherwise it's not so much of a big deal.
The 32x was such a beast of a console, it did exactly what it said it could do, the saturn should of been dumped and the 32x should of been the mainstay until the Dreamcast, we would still probably have a Sega console division today in that timeline.
I don't have a 32x but I did play the Mega Drive version. It was an awesome game at the game but it didn't age well, I'm still okay with the graphics but the framerate is a sore to the eyes. Luckily the Saturn version is still very playable, plus it has 10 tracks (vs 3 on the arcade/MD and 5 on the 32x) and 4 more cars.
Sega didnt just kill a system when a new one was announced. They ported alot of the games that was on the genesis onto the original master system also. They were doing people a favor in a way but kinda hurt the company itself in the end.
@@dinosaursfor4709 você que falou merda ,sou colecionador e tenho as 2, no Saturn tem 5 pistas a mais, 2 carros a mais, som melhor e modos de campepnato, portanto tem muito mais fator replay.
Saturn has better framerate and less pop-up. Sky looks better on 32X. Can't help thinking how good Saturn version could be if Sega had done it themselves.
Why is the Saturn so low poly? I know they both have the same processing power but the 32X was a 2D based system, while the Saturn was a 3D based system.
Considering the hardware, 32X pulls an amazing game here. It might be technicaly inferior, but 32X is the spiritual winner. I always thought Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter for the 32X were the best versions of those games and the best the add-on system had to offer. Both were great party games, too. Saturn shoudn't have had the Model 1 games to begin with, just like the Sega CD, not the 32X, shoud've had the Super Scaler games
Compare with 32X when Saturn is traveling at 300 km/h. The comparison conditions are not fair. It's great that 32X was created so that tree-like polygons look faster than Saturn. The 32X is a romantic mood that pushes the boundaries of hardware and emphasizes gameplay.
Nope. The Genesis version runs at 15 frames. The 32X version runs at 20 frames, and the Saturn version "targets" 30 frames with periodical frame drops and slow down.
Wrong time to release the 32x. If the sega cd was cancelled then it would've made since to release it as a stand alone console in place of the sega cd. 32x hardware will work better on the next or after next sega handheld console.
Pois é, a versão do Saturn supera por conta dos FPS que deve ser 60 contra 30 do 32x!! Muito mais agradável e fluido no Saturn, acaba compensando os loadings!
More polygons on the 32X stages?! The car has undeniably more detail but gets dimmed by the lower quality of the stages. The lower frame rate gives a higher quality overall back. May be Saturn sounds better, but makes little sense that the graphics didn't accompany. 32x wins
Na questão grafica o Saturno da um show aparente mente ele roda a 60 quadros com sprites maiores e maior resolução. Eu não joguei esse jogo no saturno pra saber se a jogabilidade é realmente ruim. Visualmente o Saturno da um show e o mega 32x tbm da um show mas roda com graficos um pouco inferiores e a 30 quadros provavelmente reduzindo a fluidez do jogo.
versão de Saturn tem mais carros e muito mais pistas e músicas instrumentais muito boas. O controle não é ruim, mas é muito esquisito o jeito como o carro se comporta, as batidas são bizarras e a há muitos loadings. Mesmo caso da versão de Virtua Fighter, o de 32X vale mais o investimento, considerando o hardware.
The Saturn version didn’t play like the arcade version and it didn’t feature the original arcade presentation. Even the arcade track backdrops were changed. They should have stuck to the look of the arcade game. The load times are also annoying. I think the best version from the original ports is the 32X version, followed by the Mega Drive and then the Saturn. The Switch version is the best version available today.
When I look at it back then the 32X would have been a better add-on if the games for the system wasn't rushed. The Saturn coming out didn't help. 32X is that child no one wanted.
Although the Saturn version looks nicer the 32X version is still my ultimate favourite version. Even the Genesis/MegaDrive version will get more play than the Saturn version. I think it's because owning them when they were brand spanking new its that still awe of seeing these graphics coming out of my 16BIT MegaDrive or the enhanced 32X version, kinda gave me a taste of what future 32X games may be like... Well what did I know? The problem with the Saturn version is it doesn't have that original Arcade feel and don't get me started on the replays. Where the cars are always on top of all the scenery... seriously take a look for yourself. How did the almighty Saturn mess that up? Of course its down to the developers, it was probably made on a tight budget, with a short release date with no real knowledge of the hardware. Worth playing sure. But 32X version is still the definitive version.
32X wins! O Virtua do Saturn é um dos jogos mais tocos que já joguei na vida. Amo Virtua Racing, tanto que tenho dois cartuchos no Mega, um japonês e um nacional.
32x is impressive, but the Saturn is the clear winner. In game presentation is great as well and there's just more to do. More game content, better graphics, better sound and music. Saturn all the way.
The Saturn version definitely looks better IMO, but it's still a remarkable technical achievement for the 32x. I also agree with what others have said regarding controls; even if the Saturn version looks a bit better and runs a bit smoother, the 32x version controls MUCH better and is, therefore, the version to play.
Wow noway I’d give away my retro consoles. I still have Genesis/CD/32X from when I was a kid. I run them on SCART at 4:3, 1080p. I have my original Saturn from Walmart and I have 3 Japanese Saturns that are modded for region free.
@@jasonhull2163 sometimes i regret gifted many and swap other instead of keep them all. Sega Saturn mk1 was the most beautil console ever made until now.
@@ENFDO I have the first USA run and the Japanese gray Saturn and 2 white Japanese Saturns to me the first USA Saturn console look the best, then the white Saturn. At least you gave it you a cousin.
@@jasonhull2163 i swapped ss mark 1 with daytona Sega rally virtua fighter (as u know the first one was included with ss) and virtua fighter 2... for ps with ridge racer revolution and tekken. Then i swapped ps for ss mark two and then for the n64 back in 1997.. and its practically unused in its box with zero games.
It was one of the most expensive games I have ever seen. The Mega Drive version was more expensive than the console. I am sorry, good idea a lot of work but for me all versions are poor!
A melhor é a do 32x, sem dúvida nenhuma... mas mesmo a versão do MD era boa para a época, era uma revolução e eu amava, difícil era alugar pois nunca parava na prateleira...
32X did a great job.
SalDOWN yes it did. My personal favorite 32x game.
"Not really" 😂 Love these stupid comments about retro games. It was a great conversion for the hardware it was on and at had the arcade tunes too.
@@barrypearce1078 What's even cooler about the port is that all of the music is played with just the YM2612 and SN76496. Yep, that's right. None of the songs use the 32x's own 2-channel PWM chip at all!
check out openlaura, tomb raider 1 running on the 32x (early porting development). we're starting to see that the 32x is more capable than we were lead to believe. i'm almost convinced now that the 32x was capable of a 1:1 port of this game or that there should be zero difference between the two aside the music.
Mega drive great job!
Crazy that a console from the late 80s is holding its own against the Saturn even with the use of the 32x peripheral it's still impressive.
The saturn version is a poor 3rd party port, whereas the 32x version is an excellent port done by sega themselves. The saturn couldve been so much better.
Something about the 32x version that has so much charm to it
Saturn version looks better and plays smoother but damn the 32X can hold on its own!
id argue the 32x has a more consistent framerate (meaning it doesnt decrease or increace every 3 seconds like the saturn) and handles slightly better than the saturn.
I owned both original.
In my opinion Saturn version (which i also played with official Sega Saturn steering wheel) even if with some better quality sprites poligon and better framerate, was horrible to play, missed everything that made the original, 32X version, it was far from be coin op perfect for sure, but on the other side, did an incredible job with handling of Stock cars, which was much more similar to the concept of Daytona USA than Virtua Racing, only much better than any version of Daytona itself on Saturn... That game will stay in my heart Forever...
@@stefanomazzarello4771 whilst the saturn had a better framerate on paper, it wasnt as consistent compared to the 32x ver. the Saturn port would dip at lows of 15-25 at times and reaching highs of 30 at others.
@@megafitife Does not matter... The gameplay itself was ugly .. it was not just a matter of fps
@@stefanomazzarello4771 in a way, it can impair input delay
I remember getting Virtua racing for the first time and thinking how awesome the graphics were. Damn how far we have come! Still we have a lot to learn when it comes to gameplay because those old games really still have great gameplay.
The gameplay on VR Virtua Racing is still very good by today's standards.
It's one of my all-time favorite racers, especially the eight-car linked version they had at EPCOT.
I understand many Dave & Busters (combo bar/eatery & arcade) locations also have that version of Virtua Racing in their arcades, too.
None of the console conversions of Virtua Racing were arcade perfect.
They also re-released Virtua Racing on the Sega Ages collection for the PS2. Several Model 2 games were ported to PS2 -- Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter 2, etc. A few games were bundled together on one Sega Ages disc collection for PS2 in North America. Virtua Racing on that disc but it's not perfect. It's acceptable but there's a feel to the arcade they never captured on the home versions.
Daytona on PC and Saturn was far closer to the arcade version.
The polygon graphics of the 32X version have their own unique charm like early cgi or a black and white movie.
32X didn't have a lot going for it, but Virtua Racing was one of the gems for it.
And Pitfall The Mayan Adventure. NBA JAM on 32x also wasn't too bad.
@@deckofcards87 Wasn't Pitfall The Mayan Adventure a bit slower on the 32x compared to the normal Genesis version?
That 32X sound! Awesomeness in a card.
Awesomeness in a card?
@@Sinn0100 I take it you're still young 🤣🤣🤣
If you were a young lad way back then you'll get it.
@@avjaarsveldt
No...I started playing games in 1986 with the Nes and Master System. Maybe that is young to you but I'm in my 40's now.
The Saturn port was made by Time Warner Interactive.
I wish SEGA AM2 did it...
iPlaySEGA!! , nevertheless it looks good though.
Yeah I wish. This should have been a near perfect arcade port. This game graphics are basic compare to VF2 or Daytona
early game, probably the road is rendered by one SH2 and the cars&game managed by the other SH2
Claudio liriano probably not, the Model 1 board was significantly more powerful than the Saturn, and though it didn’t have textures it had a very high polygon count it could push at 60fps. Best way to think of it, Saturn was a jack of all trades master of none, and the model 1 board was just a master of flat polygons. The Model 2 conversions they could creatively hide things behind the texture maps. VF2 characters had a lot less polygons compared to the arcade, and the backgrounds were flat assets. Great gameplay and art direction helped that game. Daytona was awful.
Yeah, as it is the Saturn version only looks slightly better than the 32X version which is odd considering the Saturn is a significantly more powerful console hardware wise than the 32X. If Sega AM2 did the Saturn port I feel they could have made the Saturn version a lot better, almost arcade perfect.
i had all the two versions of the game, and i have no doubt about the fact that the best version is absolutely the 32x version, even if the graphic and frame rate were absolutely better on the Sega Saturn version.
The 32x version of Virtua racing was giving the best atmosphere of the coin op version, and the Sega Saturn version was giving a "flat feeling" to me.
I also think, that the 32x version of Virtua Racing "Deluxe" was the best console porting of a Sega Racing Arcade racing on a home system in the 90's, second place was Sega Rally on Sega Saturnbon 1996.
Retro core also thinks the 32x version of virtual racing is the best. Nice
From what I understand, the Genesis and 32X versions had much better control and handling than the Saturn version.
they did, the Saturn version controls are horrible, heck the saturn version is not even made by sega.
madmax2069 I agree about the pad controls being worse on the Saturn but I think it had to do with the Saturn Racing Wheel getting more refinement.
I own all three, and Genesis version is hardest to control from what I remember. 32x and Saturn control better. Saturn version has more options, but 32x no load time. If I had to pick my favorite, I'd probably go with 32x version.
madmax2069 I think the Saturn version controls better than the Genesis version.
Saturn controls were not bad at all,ot was the screwed up hit detection with other cars and a few issues with sound
For some reason I always expect to hear "DAY-TON-AH!" whenever I see this game.
i noticed most arcades seem to have had daytona and virtua racing side by side, it could be a sub conscious thing
Ha ha! The amount of times I would hear that when we went drinking / playing pool in a massive games place called Dave & Busters in B'ham UK. It was the signature sound of any arcade in the 90s. Kids now won't even know the thrill of the latest coin op arriving at your local cinema or bowling alley.
It's awesome how Sega pushed the Mega Drive until the end. The Mega Drive was already more powerful than the PC Engine and on par with the SNES but they still expanded its capabilities 2 times, first with the Mega-CD and later with the 32X. Just, it's too bad that the 32X was so poorly managed, it was too much at once with the Saturn coming around the same time... Still it has some great games, which is what matter in the end, and Virtua Racing Deluxe is one of these!
You forget the SVP chip in the Virtua Racing game for the Genesis.
Mega drive was significantly more powerful than the snes.
It was not.
The pricessor was 2x faster, what made the Genesis better for side scrolling action games. But that‘s it.
SNES had mode 7 and a much better graphics unit.
Good luck running Donkey Kong Country on Genesus.
And i say that as a Sega man.
Its too bad they didn't do many more of these cross platform ports between the 32X and Saturn, would have liked to see a version of Sonic R and a few others on the 32X.
Dica de comparação: Daytona USA (saturn) x Daytona championship circuit edition (saturn). Parabéns pelos videos, sou viciado neles. like+
Everyone knows the Sega Ralley series' iconic "Game over, yeeeeeeeeaaaaah!" But Virtua Racer's "Game! Game! Over! Over!" is pretty fun, too.
It suits the Saturn like a tuxedo, nice performance.
It would have been awesome if Sega would have done Daytona USA on the 32X.
Atari7800 atari they almost did.
Atari7800 atari it could be difficult or almost impossible to port without massive sacrifices. Daytona USA runs on far more powerful hardware than any console of its generation, even than the N64. 32x can handle fine Model 1 games but it isn't capable enough for Model 2 games like Daytona USA which runs at 57.5/60 fps.
Atari7800 atari that would've been awesome. I would have liked to have seen alot of sega exclusive games come to 32x.
Atari7800 atari ~ there was an april fool where if you go on baybridge circuit on 32x vracing and spell "Daytona" on the section of open carpark near bottom of track there was apparently a demo of Daytona on 3 7 speedway. Alas it was a lie.... an april fool. Cheers sega magazine uk. I spent hours trying!
Retrofan 99 I would've a accepted major sacrifices just to get a playable port of it on 32x.
Normally the 32x version looks brighter than the Saturn version but not in this video. They are both great games but the 32x version obviously has better control and gives more feel of the Arcade. I always felt though that cartridge based games are better than Cd. The actual Arcade Virtua Racing isn't running off of CD. Some may say the Saturn version has better sound than the Arcade version but 32x version sounds closer to the Arcade. Being that im a big fan of 64 Bit/32 Bit Cartridges I love the Sega 32X, Atari Jaguar & Nintendo 64. I hated all the loading time too in cd based games.
Atari7800 atari yup.
Gotta love Carts! I collect Jaguar and 32X to this day! Lots of Jaguar Home-brew still going on. Disappointing nothing new for 32X all these years later...
Ummm...the carts were great when that was all we had. However, disc based media expanded gaming far beyond what any cart can ever hope to do and it's still happening today. I own/owned every cart based machine that has ever released in the states starting with the Atari 7800 (1984 test launch) all the way to the Nintendo Switch.
While carts were great once games like Suikoden I-II, Final Fantasy VII, Symphony of The Night, Panzer Dragoon I-II, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Dragon Force, Metal Gear...starting hitting across disc based platforms the cart was done. Those amazing experiences would have been impossible on a cart based system at the time. I would gladly choose to have loading times of 2 to 3 minutes a piece just to experience those games again for the first time. I only included 5th generation consoles but...the Sega Dreamcast also fits and the loading times on it were greatly, greatly improved. There is no way a 94Mb N64 cart has a chance against a 1.2GB GD-ROM (basically CD ROM tech).
Absolutely, the loading times on consoles like Saturn, Sega CD and Playstation was an absolute joy killer for me. We were so used to not having the loading times. For me N64's choice to go with cartridge rather than CD was an absolute win and it really shows in a game like Ocarina of Time which blew 100% of the PS1's offerings away in terms of graphics, immersion and gameplay, not to mention it has 100% in-game 3D rendered cutscenes rather than the awful looking FMV cutscenes that were present in CD based games.
The 32X version is very impressive especially seeing how it was a launch title for the 32X. I have it and really enjoy it and the added tracks and cars are a great bonus. All that Virtua Racing goodness with zero load screens. I do not have the Saturn version and never played it but it does look good but I heard the controls were a little off. All this just makes you really wonder what the 32X was capable of if it had a longer life span and developers had more time with the hardware. Thanks for the video.
I love the 32x and all, but boy, it was a stupid thing to release, having it compete with the Saturn essentially.
Still, fun times. I'm glad that I own one, even if it does kinda look like a tumor sticking out of my Genesis...
@@LaskyLabs LOL. I wish Sega was more like Nintendo. Instead of all the in fighting at Sega they could have had a multi-tier approach like Nintendo had with the N64 GBA and made games specific to the platform's strengths. The Saturn could have been home to unique titles like Panzer Dragoon, Nights and Astal whereas the 32X could have been home to Sega's 32-bit arcade ports like Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder, Rad Mobile, and a true arcade port of Super Monaco GP with the occasional 16-bit Genesis game thrown in every now and then. Oh well. It would be cool if we had third-party developers and indie developers make games for the 32X like they have been doing for the Genesis. 32X Doom Resurrection on the 32X is amazing.
Saturn version definitely runs smoother and looks to have a better draw distance as well as being brighter too
are we looking at the same footage the draw distance on the saturn is way worse than on the 32x
and the amount of trees are lower on the saturn version
Had the mega drive, 32x and Saturn version and I found the mega drive with the vitura processor the best to play.
I agree for sure! Love the Mega Fucking version.
The Mega Drive/Genesis port was very good and the gameplay is just as good as the 32x and Saturn versions as I own all 3 too.
the Saturn seems to look kinda nice, although the clipping is really obvious... and it's really smooth. but from what I read the 32x version is better overall? should I get the Saturn version? i saw it for 20$...
Philippe Saturn is made by Time Warner, and controls worse than any version of VR. 32x is great.
32x did hold its own but hell so did the genesis with that added chip. Is it me or is the 32x sound more arcade?
The Saturn version in actual gameplay offcoarse runs way closer to the arcade, but the 32X version as a whole felt more like it with the same type of presentation and menu style, Time Warner for reasons unknown changed things up on the Saturn and just made it completely feel different which was unwelcomed to me when they should've just done it arcade perfect menus, presentation, and all, so I give it to the 32X for simply feeling more like the arcade version, but if you really want the straight up arcade perfect version runing at 60fps play it on the PlayStation 2, on a SEGA compilation disc, that version is flawlessly arcade perfect down to the music and sound effects.
What's with the vocal pitching on the Saturn version, the time bonus guy sounds like he's been at the helium :D Love the 32x version, still love to play that.
why not soul calibur arcade vs soul calibur Dreamcast?
Sega should have gone back to this game a year or two later to deliver the AM2 Hi res 60fps Bonus tracks edition on Saturn with split screen and local net play Vs.
Esse jogo só mostra que o Saturn seria extremamente desnecessário, caso 32x e SEGA CD fossem bem planejados. Se colocassem os GPU's e os processadores de 32 bits no SEGA CD mesmo que isso levasse um tempo a mais de desenvolvimento, se teria praticamente um console de 32 bits com retrocompatibilidade com um de 16 na mesma mídia de CD.
+Alanzin Se vc colocasse os chips gráficos e os processadores de 32 bits no Sega CD, VC TERIA O SEGA SATURN, PORRA! O Virtua Racing é um dos primeiros jogos lançados pra Saturn, e um dos piores gráficos do console, não deve usar nem 0,1% da capacidade do Saturn. Já no 32X, esses gráficos são os máximos a serem alcançados, dá até pra sentir o cheiro de plástico derretendo quando vc joga isso no Mega com 32X... E outra: Sega CD nem foi um console, foi um acessório do Mega. Que retrocompatibilidade é essa na qual vc precisa ter o console anterior pra jogar?
CowboyTanaka não. O 32x era umas 3 ou 4 vezes inferior ao Saturn, pois tinha apenas um processador de 20 mhz, fraco para rodar os jogos. E porque não colocar um Add-on que fizesse o Mega saltar de geração no lugar de um console que não deu certo? A SEGA além de segurar as pontas nos EUA e Europa, ia dar mais tempo ainda para aprimorarem o Dreamcast.
+Alanzin Segurar as pontas por 4 anos? A Sega quebraria antes de pensar em Dreamcast... O 32X e o Sega CD foram 2 tentativas fracassadas de fazer o que vc falou: fazer o Mega pular de uma geração (16-bit) para outra (32-bit) e aumentar o seu tempo de vida. Vc queria uma terceira? Não se passa pra uma nova geração produzindo um acessório que dependa de hardware antigo e obsoleto. Por isso que o Saturn nunca seria desnecessário. Imagina alguém como eu, que iniciou na 5a geração, ser obrigado a comprar um console da geração passada + 2 acessórios pra poder desfrutar da nova geração, ainda assim resultando em um console totalmente inferior aos outros. Não faz sentido.
Alanzin O Saturn só não deu certo no ocidente, no Japão ele foi um console bem vendido e bem lucrativo para a sega
O que matou ele no ocidente foi o marketing bizarro e o briga da sega EUA com a sega JP
Tem os mesmos dois processadores do Saturn com um clock um pouco mais lento
Time Warner Interactive does a good job with the music from virtua racing, this is the best on the saturn version, excellent arrangements with a real music band!!
Gameplay and Ki on 32x are much better!
The Saturn looks a little smoother, otherwise I noticed a bit more color as well. The 32x is amazing in its own right though.
Saturn version runs in 60 FPS, however it is missing some details on the track and controls are not optimal. Also , the menu music in the 32X Version just kicks butt! The red book audio on Saturn isn't bad either, but it doesn't fit the game. So I say 32X wins.
GrumpyGermanGamer i've see that saturn version drops from 60 fps to 42 or something like this...
O do Saturn se sai um pouco melhor, principalmente em detalhes... Mais bato palmas pra versão do 32X, se saiu muito bem.
Faz a versão do Mega com a do Saturn xD ?
Did 32x display more polygons?! The saturn port was really a bad work
The biggest problem the saturn version has is its sound effects,also its got great music but extemely shortened making it feel like it lacks speed,the minor control changes could be overlooked and the speed can be helped by running the pal version forced to 60hz,the music can be edited but again the sfx are a big issue .. also to note the go kart is great on the saturn vr ... its a shame
Both are almost equal for me but, the sound is good in both machines but the details graphic is a little better on Saturn than 32X, because more colorful, bright, contrasted
Oh my God , Sega Saturn of course
32x definitely is more of a retro collector novelty... Seeing as these are relatively the same. I'm sure the controls got even better for the Saturn version just as the 32x's got better from the Genesis'... But still, gotta love that charm in that 32-bit gritty flat shaded polygonal goodness... Nnffph. 😆
Saturn hands down. The sound and the file size capacity wins.
Detalhe que no Saturn os mecânicos colocam os pneus no chão e o carro cai sobre eles. WTF??
I play the Saturn version with the steering wheel. Never played the 32x nor the arcade version so i can't tell if it's any better except for my opinion on the game itself. It plays smoothly, the drift mechanics are a lot of fun but the graphics, although i like them, are horrible. I genuinely have a hard time seeing where i'm going sometimes because it's so pixelated. I'm probably spoiled with modern race games where everything looks so smooth and crisp though.
Edit: I have this problem mostly when i play in cockpit mode, otherwise it's not so much of a big deal.
The 32x was such a beast of a console, it did exactly what it said it could do, the saturn should of been dumped and the 32x should of been the mainstay until the Dreamcast, we would still probably have a Sega console division today in that timeline.
The 32x kept framerate hight vs Saturn's framerate drop
Very close!!! But I have to give it to saturn
I don't have a 32x but I did play the Mega Drive version. It was an awesome game at the game but it didn't age well, I'm still okay with the graphics but the framerate is a sore to the eyes. Luckily the Saturn version is still very playable, plus it has 10 tracks (vs 3 on the arcade/MD and 5 on the 32x) and 4 more cars.
32X
I like both versions i have both versions also
How did the saturn display less polygons than 32x?! 😱 😱 😱
Sega didnt just kill a system when a new one was announced. They ported alot of the games that was on the genesis onto the original master system also. They were doing people a favor in a way but kinda hurt the company itself in the end.
Saudades do você decide
Obviously the Sega Saturn wins, but we must also recognize the great job with the 32X.
I don't like how the announcer sounds like he inhaled Helium on the Saturn version.
O do Saturn é indiscutivelmente melhor, sem dúvida!!
@@dinosaursfor4709 você que falou merda ,sou colecionador e tenho as 2, no Saturn tem 5 pistas a mais, 2 carros a mais, som melhor e modos de campepnato, portanto tem muito mais fator replay.
@@dinosaursfor4709 nota nao importa, sao críticos de merda, longevidade do game sim.
Saturn has better framerate and less pop-up. Sky looks better on 32X.
Can't help thinking how good Saturn version could be if Sega had done it themselves.
I have Virtua Racing on Genesis/32X and Saturn. The 32X and Saturn version really heavily falls on opinion at this point.
Why is the Saturn so low poly? I know they both have the same processing power but the 32X was a 2D based system, while the Saturn was a 3D based system.
The Great Gamer // Est. 2016 early game and many found it hard to program for.
Dank Memes 83 - Fortnite & Stuff I guess they wanted to keep the asthetics
O loading no 32X é mais rápido, mas a versão do Saturn tem uma melhor sensação de velocidade na corrida, contudo prefiro a versão do 32X.
Saturn looks a lil better but 32x closer to arcade detail wise.
faz com a versão sega ages de ps2
Both are great versions, there's no doubt that 32x wins though. But Saturn version is fun to play
Ambos são excelentes.
World Games:
e o vençedor dessa corrida é 32x.
LOADING
Cali MikeT that's what was irritating about the Saturn version. ..lol.
Considering the hardware, 32X pulls an amazing game here. It might be technicaly inferior, but 32X is the spiritual winner. I always thought Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter for the 32X were the best versions of those games and the best the add-on system had to offer. Both were great party games, too. Saturn shoudn't have had the Model 1 games to begin with, just like the Sega CD, not the 32X, shoud've had the Super Scaler games
Compare with 32X when Saturn is traveling at 300 km/h. The comparison conditions are not fair.
It's great that 32X was created so that tree-like polygons look faster than Saturn.
The 32X is a romantic mood that pushes the boundaries of hardware and emphasizes gameplay.
Saturn is more smooth.
nope it runs in 15fps instead of 60fps
Nope. The Genesis version runs at 15 frames. The 32X version runs at 20 frames, and the Saturn version "targets" 30 frames with periodical frame drops and slow down.
OldsXCool Saturn targets 60 fps but drops below 24fps because of the poor optimization.
Saturn version from what I remember is a great version with alot of extras added.
The 32x was a hell of a machine! Too bad the developers did not believe in its potential.
I agree. Should have not been released in the Saturn's shadow. Should've came out about two years earlier, and given a better chance to thrive.
Wrong time to release the 32x. If the sega cd was cancelled then it would've made since to release it as a stand alone console in place of the sega cd.
32x hardware will work better on the next or after next sega handheld console.
Pois é, a versão do Saturn supera por conta dos FPS que deve ser 60 contra 30 do 32x!! Muito mais agradável e fluido no Saturn, acaba compensando os loadings!
Better looking than ps1
More polygons on the 32X stages?! The car has undeniably more detail but gets dimmed by the lower quality of the stages. The lower frame rate gives a higher quality overall back. May be Saturn sounds better, but makes little sense that the graphics didn't accompany. 32x wins
Na questão grafica o Saturno da um show aparente mente ele roda a 60 quadros com sprites maiores e maior resolução. Eu não joguei esse jogo no saturno pra saber se a jogabilidade é realmente ruim. Visualmente o Saturno da um show e o mega 32x tbm da um show mas roda com graficos um pouco inferiores e a 30 quadros provavelmente reduzindo a fluidez do jogo.
20fps
versão de Saturn tem mais carros e muito mais pistas e músicas instrumentais muito boas.
O controle não é ruim, mas é muito esquisito o jeito como o carro se comporta, as batidas são bizarras e a há muitos loadings.
Mesmo caso da versão de Virtua Fighter, o de 32X vale mais o investimento, considerando o hardware.
Is it just me or 32X has less LOD popping then the Saturn?
Since sega develop the 32x version the Saturn was left behind and developed by time warner.
Saturn version looks better but the 32x version plays so much better. So I give the win to the 32x just for the gameplay alone.
The Saturn version didn’t play like the arcade version and it didn’t feature the original arcade presentation. Even the arcade track backdrops were changed. They should have stuck to the look of the arcade game. The load times are also annoying. I think the best version from the original ports is the 32X version, followed by the Mega Drive and then the Saturn. The Switch version is the best version available today.
Saturn is alittld better of course, but I like the deeper colors on the 32x
When I look at it back then the 32X would have been a better add-on if the games for the system wasn't rushed. The Saturn coming out didn't help. 32X is that child no one wanted.
Graphic a side, 32X version was much better than Sega Saturn version
32X version looks better plays smoother but damn Saturn can hold it's own‼
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I like 32x version.
I guess we all should thank the selection of evolution, otherwise we may have to seen dreamcast with toilet lookalike add on to catch ps3
I can't tell the difference all I see is different menus
0:20 hikari no willpower (Trunks Theme Dragon ball z)
32x show ur power to Saturn!!!
Although the Saturn version looks nicer the 32X version is still my ultimate favourite version. Even the Genesis/MegaDrive version will get more play than the Saturn version.
I think it's because owning them when they were brand spanking new its that still awe of seeing these graphics coming out of my 16BIT MegaDrive or the enhanced 32X version, kinda gave me a taste of what future 32X games may be like... Well what did I know?
The problem with the Saturn version is it doesn't have that original Arcade feel and don't get me started on the replays. Where the cars are always on top of all the scenery... seriously take a look for yourself.
How did the almighty Saturn mess that up? Of course its down to the developers, it was probably made on a tight budget, with a short release date with no real knowledge of the hardware.
Worth playing sure. But 32X version is still the definitive version.
32X wins! O Virtua do Saturn é um dos jogos mais tocos que já joguei na vida. Amo Virtua Racing, tanto que tenho dois cartuchos no Mega, um japonês e um nacional.
Saturn version looks 1,000 times better.
Lol! Maybe, maybe 3 or 4x better. But a 1000? Lol.
32x is impressive, but the Saturn is the clear winner. In game presentation is great as well and there's just more to do. More game content, better graphics, better sound and music. Saturn all the way.
Saturn is a smoother version. I think the saturn version is a 30 fps and 32x a 20 or 25 fps
Saturn claramente é melhor, mas não tem uma diferença tão gritante xD
SS version had an obligation to be much higher. And it's not.
The Saturn version definitely looks better IMO, but it's still a remarkable technical achievement for the 32x. I also agree with what others have said regarding controls; even if the Saturn version looks a bit better and runs a bit smoother, the 32x version controls MUCH better and is, therefore, the version to play.
more development time it'd be great
Time bond!!
i would say saturn
I bought génesis for 32x and vr. Nice game. I gifted all to a cousin at sega saturn launch.
Wow noway I’d give away my retro consoles. I still have Genesis/CD/32X from when I was a kid. I run them on SCART at 4:3, 1080p. I have my original Saturn from Walmart and I have 3 Japanese Saturns that are modded for region free.
@@jasonhull2163 sometimes i regret gifted many and swap other instead of keep them all. Sega Saturn mk1 was the most beautil console ever made until now.
@@ENFDO I have the first USA run and the Japanese gray Saturn and 2 white Japanese Saturns to me the first USA Saturn console look the best, then the white Saturn. At least you gave it you a cousin.
@@jasonhull2163 i swapped ss mark 1 with daytona Sega rally virtua fighter (as u know the first one was included with ss) and virtua fighter 2... for ps with ridge racer revolution and tekken. Then i swapped ps for ss mark two and then for the n64 back in 1997.. and its practically unused in its box with zero games.
@@ENFDO I am fixing to buy a 64DD I know there’s not many games but Mario is a little better on it
Literally the Saturn version just looks the 32x version with just a higher framer rate and brightness.
The 32x is more a Virtua game the Saturn is more a like normal f1 game
It was one of the most expensive games I have ever seen. The Mega Drive version was more expensive than the console. I am sorry, good idea a lot of work but for me all versions are poor!
A melhor é a do 32x, sem dúvida nenhuma... mas mesmo a versão do MD era boa para a época, era uma revolução e eu amava, difícil era alugar pois nunca parava na prateleira...
What the videos don’t show is how terrible and unresponsive the controls are on Saturn. The controls on 32x are perfect.
os caras deixarem saturn fazer popin em um jogo sem texturas é uma sacanagem , aja preguiça