Math Guy Breaks Down How Much Strength You Need To Achieve the Human Flag
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2022
- Check out the video to see the in-depth math/physics breakdown of the human flag!
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As a physics student, I'm LOVING these math breakdown videos. Very much appreciated 👍
Lol chad calculates exercise
hahahahahahahaha
I thought I look like the complete opposite of a stereotypical "chad" 😆. Jokes aside, it's better to understand what you are getting yourself into before starting learning a move.
He's no chad...
Yes, he is
@@aq1q he is
Loving this new direction for your channel! Breaking down calisthenics moves from a math / physics perspective is something I haven't seen much of on youtube, but is soo useful in terms of understanding the strength requirements for different moves where other channels will just say "if you can do 10 pull ups and 10 dips you're probably strong enough" - and super well explained so we don't all need to be math geniuses! You have earned my subscription 🥳
Strong enough for what
So awesome. Math is complex, but well explained. 👍 Like the simplicity of functional exercise. Most definitely going to try this one. 🙏
Can't wait to see your human flag, Jon! Don't wait till the full human flag, post it when you have the straddle human flag!
@@GeekClimber Yes, sir, Coach. 🤘
I really enjoy your content, keep this up 'cause you're one of the few that doesn't talk about "How to do a front lever? Start with 50 pullups, then be motivated and eat some vegetables".
Right now i'm 6 months into my calisthenics journey and in the forthcoming months I was thinking of trying to analyze the same topic with an eye on the biomechanical aspects.
I'll let you know if I end up with some interesting conclusion!
I would love to see the biomechanics aspect of it! Do let me know if you end up with some interesting conclusions!
I am waiting for these interesting conclusions!
This was great! The one physics aspect that wasn't touched on is the strength required by your obliques to counter the torque created by your legs around your center of gravity. But I can't do a human flag and I'm not training or one, so I can't say from experience whether this would even be an issue.
Also the difference in your center of gravity due to having heavier/lighter legs relative to arms. I'm not heavy but I have a 'cyclist build', having much larger legs relatively speaking.
I have both the push and pull strength to do it but I cant becouce of my obliques at least that's what I think it is.
@@1AmTheStigPay attention in class kid. He accounted for all the bullcrap you just said at 2:47. 😂
Very interesting video. I have already unlocked this movement but still found your video to be both entertaining and informative. Keep up the good work!
keep this math/phsycis approach up cause its amazing and you are giving hope
This is a great math breakdown! Finding out one's actual relative strength needed is great for all exercises and something I've been trying to figure out for a long time. Awesome contribution to the exercise science!
The next level of instructions/calculations are to calculate the stabilizing strength of the core/obliques counter the torque and keep your legs up. Would be great to have that quantified as well.
You have sincerely earned my sub, thank you for bringing us worthwhile content!
Fantastic video GC! You are certainly one of my favorite youtubers!
After watching this video, I did what you stated, I could almost hold a straddle human flag right away (couldn't hold it though, I'm falling slowly) but I think it was such a huge progression.
Thanks man Ur physics breakdown is amazing
Amazing content, perfect to have on top of the more conventional tutorials! Thank you very much!
Really loved the video, I can also easily fullfill the strength requirements layed out here, but can't do the human flag. I also didn't practise it much yet, just tried it once, will come back to this once I practised it more.
At least I watched your other video now, so I'll try again tommorrow and use the tips you mentioned
This is awesome! I never really heard workout breakdown with math/physics!
This was really great and helpful. Thank you so much!
Nice breakdown of the actual challenge for the flag - overhead pushing strength (and mobility). And good idea with that Calisthenics calc website.
This was really great! This feels like being a Mathematician or Physicist, applying the knowledge in real life situation!
Amazing info bro, thanks for sharing!!
your content deserves straight up like 2M+ views, u will get there mate.
Brother just earned a subscriber, seen two videos and I already love this dude
Awesome video really helped a lot
THIS IS AWESOME - love these vids!
Really nice video, you combined physics (statics), math and optimization! Also I'm surprised that you put lot's of effort by doing dexa scans, angle measurements, one arm handstand tests :D
Excellent breakdown and explanations here!
This was amazing! I really like to see the physics and maths behind calisthenics
Im just an amateur meathead and calisthenic athlete with similar allometry to yours, these breakdowns are so educational and well done.
Keep up the great work!
Brilliant explanation.
And yes, certainly I am limited by pushing arm strenght and the shoulder in particular.
would be a perfect educational example for first semester technical mechanics classes in engineering studies
Love your videos
This is just golden content... thank you so much :P
This is great content!
I'm subscribing because of this content. More like this please.
Loved the video! Now I've got a reason to train arm strength again.
omg why ain't I sub to you. I love your videos. Esp all the ones u done in the past.
Good analysis of the three external forces acting on a rigid body. However, I suspect the factor that prevents a lot from performing the human flag is not push and pull strength of the arms but the internal forces required, particularly through the lats, abdominal and upper legs regions, to hold the body rigid when horizontal.
Definitely, the most ethical youtuber ever. Thanks for the awesome content! :)
Thank you, I enjoyed it.
Awesome analysis!!! Much appreciated. The assumption that muscle force generation is constant is probably the most questionable point. For compound movements, (wrist, elbow, and shoulder), a lot can change! It likely won't change the optimal angle more than we can reasonably measure though!
Superb. Found your channel by accident. Thanks.
Unusually entertaining content!!
Awesome man, you should start a series like this. I wonder if you can make one about handstand, cause I can do 8 reps of wall assisted HSPU with least assistance but cannot balance the handstand at all.
in that case, its not about your push strength, its your wrist strength and balance. learn to do handstand holds for long before atempting HSPUs, then how i learned it was just doing negatives. go down very slow, and eventually you will have the strength and balance to push back up. hope this helps u, and sorry if you've already learned it cuz its been six months since u commented.
Thank you!
thank you professor
i think u are missing the scapular stability required to hold the human flag, which is coincidentally what is mainly needed for the one arm hang and the one arm handstand. when i was weightlifting, i couldn’t do it even with .7x body weight OHP and 1.65 weighted pull-up. now that i train more calisthenics and rock climbing, i’m able to do it.
I love you man!!
Awesome explanation! It'll be amazing if you could make one on planche in the future
thank you very much for the tall guy comparison!👍
This guy is just amazing. He is a person I look up to. A genius yet so strong truly a scholar, a chad, an adonis. Love your videos man
This is amazing
U sir, are a legend for this video
I made it to the screenshot.
Thanks for doing this. I kinda knew how the vectors with leave you static but I couldn't make out your notation.
Loved seeing the math! Do you have more vids of calculating calisthenics?
The sudden demonstration of the human flag while being a chad math/physics guy is absolutely amazing
Yea bro! Thanks for posting!! Now I know it's definitely possible to defy gravity.
When geek in the name od the channel starts to overwhelm the climber part
This was awesome
Good job. Gonna try assisted wall handstands to make more progress
I can’t express my appreciation 😊
“Congratulations!” Lol instant subscribe
Tore some thing in my arm attempting to do one (part of my bicep), heard the ripping noise really well, since my arm was close to my ear. Instantly was nauseated from the trauma.
I think the big issue that caused the damage is that I jumped to get into position, so the force on my arm would be even greater than if it was just static.
learing physics at school helps so much when seeing your videos. You are very good at explaining math.
Glad to know that you are able to follow the math along without a problem! Math and physics are very important if you intend to pursue a career in STEM!
I can do wall assisted 1arm handstand and can hang with 1arm but I cant hold a straddle flag,I know the technique and im 190cm tall. Best i can do is a bit low halflay flag.
Also i love your content keep it up 😁
In order to make the strength requirement go over 1x, I had to add 20 lbs to my legs, and shrink my shoulders by 5 cm. If calisthenics is your sport, chances should be pretty high that you didn't focus on training your legs, and it's hard for me to imagine someone having a drastically narrower shoulder than me. If you can do a DEXA scan, I would be able to diagnose better haha. Feel free to DM me your human flag attempts on Instagram as well, I can double-check if you are getting the technique right.
@@GeekClimber I will record my attempt next time and Ill send it over,thanks.
I think my technique is correct bcs i can do a full flag with a thin band.
Same problem right now. Watched the video, 1 arm handstand easily 10-15 sec, 1 arm hang even longer, but I don't have the pushing strength when I'm trying to the human flag.
Although I come bro bodybuilding and just tried this for fun, so maybe my technique is really bad.
A math video on the planche/tuck planche please
Awesome!
im sending this to my friend who's doing physics unit 1 and 2, and has just started working out.
2:40 LOL that took me by surprise, that's lit
very good and very interesting
sick video
I used to do a nice human flag at a variety of arm angles (including almost parallel), but that was years ago. I tried doing it again, now in my 50s, and the strain is not in my shoulders, but across my rib cage and other parts of my torso. That is, my core strength seems to have failed rather than the pushing and pulling that my arms can do.
Have you tried doing front lever on your fingertips - it should extend the effective length of your arm and make it easier
Kool way to get people into mechanics and math.
Personally I feel like I never could learn one arm handstand and flag because of weak core versus relatively low center of mass as I naturally have quite a bit of mass on my lower body. I never felt like I lacked strength in arms to hold these positions, but rather lacked core to keep the balance and stiffness.
maybe your small muscles in the core arent activated... can you do head- or handstand?
Does the normal two arm chest to wall handstand feel easy to you?
@@TheValinov Lol, I do suspect that my core muscles are indeed small
I still can headstand and handstand. I used to breakdance in the past, did it for many years. Basic handstand and especially headstand was super easy to me at that time and I was failing just the same then. I had basically no lats then though...
@@GeekClimber Almost never did handstand to wall, even when I was learning how to do handstand. I should test how long I'd be able to hold. Will report results.
@@41BOT aside from the abs, the core muscles are small - on every human ;) maybe you just lack the pull strenght then. pull-ups?
3:22 for a physics point of view, you are only possible to do the human flag at 60deg where the two curves intersect. Yet, you do it at 41deg, which means either
1. Your push strength is not equal to the pull strength
Or
2.the force applied by your arm is not parallel to the arm as you modelled it, e.g at 41deg your pushing arm need to generate a force that is more parallel to ground, so its direction deviates from your arm, in order to produce torque for the net torque equal to zero requirement, as well as net force equal to zero requirement.
Or both 1 and 2 is happening.
This means your model is only an approximation and it shows how human flag is most cases are fulfilled with 1 or(or and) 2 I mentioned above.
Haha I knew someone would point this out at some point. However it’s not your scenario 1. Scenario 1 can’t happen because the human flag is symmetric. My understanding is it’s your scenario 2 + the static friction from the grip. Evidence of scenario 2 happening is that my body is slightly tilting upwards because I was applying the pumping the chest out tip from Chris Heria as I mentioned in my previous human flag video, therefore the direction of the pushing force is not strictly in the same “z-plane”. Similarly I had to do the same for the pulling arm to counter balance this. As for the static friction from the grip, in a sense it make the curves in 3:22 “thicker”, so as long as the gap between the two curves is small enough, it can still “intersect”. So to be precise, besides finding the theta that can minimize the max of the two curves, the diff between the two curves also have to smaller than a certain number. I didn’t want to make this into a 30 minute video so I omitted these. Let me know if I answered the confusion you pointed out.
@@GeekClimber u r a legend
@@GeekClimber my comment on this comment is deleted, please refer to my another comment in a new thread
Bro i need a video like this but with the planche 💪
I find in practicing this, my lower (pushing) arm does the most work but that might only be so because my lats are developed and my delts are not. One factor that's overlooked that you won't train with handstands is the force required to keep your body straight, you still need oblique and glute strength to keep the lower body from sagging to the ground. I actually pulled my glute pretty bad the first time I tried this movement.
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You are stupid
Legend
I think your training is missing force from your lats, and i think your training for the front lever helped you more than you realize on the human flag.
I can do both things you mentioned pretty easily, but I don't have lat strength, so human flag is still hard for me
Amazing
i'm gonna train the wallassited 1-arm handstand for human flag and edit how it goes
I like maths. It helps me to understand that human flag is easier than I expected 💭
you are the best
I'm a mechanical engineer and I really enjoy listening to people talk about math when it relates to things I really like. This is a perfect recipe for a video I will really enjoy.
I'll try the wall assisted handstand and the Hang to get the human flag
I can hold one arm Handstand on a Wall with no assistance for a Minute but only a tucked Flag.
I feel like a horizontal versus vertical bar is a relevant variable
Very informative!
9:15 does your elbow overextend?
from having tried this with friends, getting into position is drastically harder than the holding the position, all the limbs have to be in the correct position to be at a mechanical advantage and be able to produce the necessary torque...
Cool. I was kinda thinking about training it by doing an overhead press, where I just load weight onto one side of the bar?
As an engineering student this video was extremely interesting
Bro appreciate you , you have done a lot of math which most of guys dont even understand 🤣
Thank for video. Are you can learn V-Sit?
Make a video on learning
"Forearm stand".
I have the requirements but need to figure out my optimal angle.
Very well explained, thank you so much for making this incredibly complex video somewhat easy to understand :)
limiting factor for my human flag is not the push and pull forces. They are fine as is. It's my core muscles. I can barely do a side plank as is. But a one arm handstand and one arm hangs are easy
Assuming similar body composition, wouldn't a taller person have a harder time holding their legs up? Isn't there torque from the shoulders to the feet that you need your obliques and glutes to hold up? That would push your center of gravity and your moment arm further out, especially since most of a person's height is determined by their legs. I think glossing over the job of the core and lower body is a slight mistake because most somewhat fit people can likely already meet the requirements for push and pull strength but still can't do it.
Mans really drew a free body diagram and wrote out the equations of motion LOL
I think that the ab strength to keep the lower half of your body straight is the limiting factor here...
What about the torque that needs to be applied throughout your torso to keep your body horizontal? I thought that was the hard part, not the arms