1. It is highly recommended to pause at 3:26 and look at the family tree. 2. Speaking of the family tree, we have "condensed" it somewhat. There were 2 Johns of Somerset and the first of them was the father to John of Somerset and Edmund of Somerset. 3. The sources are conflicted about the battle, so there are other versions. Some of the sources put Stanleys to the north of the battlefield, as their main holdings were to the north, however, they also had lands to the south of Bosworth, and the logic of the battle tells me that they were to the south. There is also a matter of the troops Henry Tudor had, some sources claim that most of his troops were from France and Scotland. We know that at least 1000 French soldiers fought for him, but that can't be said about the Scots - he obviously had no time to get any troops from the Scotland proper, so a few sources claimed that the French king gave him a unit of his Scots Guards (Garde Écossaise), but it is hard to believe in that, as the kings don't usually give away their guards. 4. Some scholars think that Stanley and Buckingham participated in the disappearances of the Princes in the Tower, either to help Richard III or to make the nobles and the commoners hate him. 5. More planned on the British history - your support would help us immensely! Even 1$ is a big deal for a youtube channel and it will give you early access to our videos: www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals
1) second the pausing unless you already know all the players. 2) Do you have a full genealogy on your site (downloadable to study more closely)? 4) Helping him to turn opinion against him seems very convoluted - too much "I know that you know that I know ..." thinking. Additionally very dangerous if that becomes known. There must be plenty of supporting evidence to prevent that theory from being dismissed as speculation.
daniel martinez daniel martinez 1080 or 1220? 1220 is a pain in the arse to install. You need download 11 files from the workshop and another major one on his google drive. Btw, 1220 has campaign and it is fun.
You've obviously never read any comments on stuff about southeastern Europe (Balkan, Greece, Hungary...). Or the Middle East (Crusades, anyone?). India is also big on this. It is _very_ easy and quite common to politicise 800 yo conflicts fought by medieval dumbasses. Although the Wars of the Roses don't carry that much modern baggage, so staying politically neutral is not too hard.
The battle of Bosworth was one of the biggest turnarounds in history. The Yorkists were dominating the entire war and then they lose one battle to Henry Tudor and it is over.
Richard III lost a big number of the traditional York allies. Everyone was tired of the dynastic war and Richard angered both the nobles and the commoners with his power grab.
yes, my first thought was that it was Henry III with his vanity that put house of York in a severely weakened position in which York house ultimately lost. That power grab was a stupid and selfish idea.
@@KingsandGenerals also thomas stanley is married to henrys mother margaret beaufort, and margaret is part of a close household of richard, she gained a lot of power by being close to the King and married to a powerful noble which is thomas. Thomas will of course side with her wife and support henry, the only reason why he was undecided up to the battle was the size of Richard army.
I feel like the overall view of Richard III is highly negative but as an Asian with no ties or interest to either side, I find him to be an admirable king.
@@sundarpichai940 I also like him. He was cunning and ruthless but he was brave, which makes up for a lot of his negative traits. His death is the stuff of legend and marked the end of chivalry in England.
@@medievalmike5562The negative traits he displayed were essentially him just acting like any noble of his time, meaning we should not judge him based on today's standards
Sad reality is that he would have been an incredibly effective king. He was one of the, f**k the rules, I'm king types. Which isn't always the best but with Richard who had experience, I think he would have done good work. Also, remember that Edward V was barely a teen when he inherited the throne, would not have been able to rule well enough.
I want to thank you guys for this channel. You probably dont know me, but i comment on many of your videos. Your channel is great. It actually give me an extra reason to be happy every Thursday and Sunday. It might sound quite repetitive, but i thank you. Maybe you can feel it, but it comes from the bottom of my heart. I am actually holding money to buy merch, both because is cool and because you deserve the support. You are doing a great work, because you enjoy it. If you didnt, then it wouldn't had this quality. Once more, thank you, you created a great place and community. Have great holidays and a great new year!!
Bosworth was not 'one battle and over' for the Yorkists. Tudor historians like to ignore the Battle of Stoke in 1487 which Tudor nearly lost while further invasions and fighting continued until 1497 with the Battle of Blackheath. Henry VII and VIII continued to hunt down and execute anyone with Yorkist blood until well into the 1530s. Read a book called The Last White Rose by Desmond Seward. www.goodreads.com/book/show/7757358-the-last-white-rose
I know! I hope the historical community worldwide wins this battle. Of all places, why place a test track over this site. Imagine the uproar if they put something over Gettysburg for example.
I only live 12 miles away from Bosworth and no they are not putting a race track on it. There has been a study of the battle field and it's actually just over a Mile away from ambion hill Time team made a very good documentary about it
Good, as then people will then visit it more, an recall the battle as reminders will add this. In hounslow the the treaty centre mall was named after a truce between saxons an vikings over 1000+ yrs ago.
with so many Henrys, Richards and Elizabeth names to remember, this is best visual and well explained recount of the War of Roses. Thank you so very much!!!!
Hey K&G, Just dropping by quickly to wish you guys a happy holiday and a great new year in advance (in case you don't post until then). Of course, this was another brilliant video. This whole year has been brilliant! The quality of your videos have drastically improved and you have been consistently giving us viewers high-quality and fascinating videos. So thank you for that. Really. 2019 will be undeniably even better for you guys and I am looking forward to what you will offer us. Please take some time off for the holidays! I can't remember the last time you guys took a break to be honest haha I think I speak for everyone when I say you deserve it. Cheers!
Philippe de Commynes, a counselor to Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, and later a counselor to Louis XI, King of France, claimed that it was the renunciation of the Treaty of Picquigny that caused Edward IV's apoplexy and early death. Charles the Bold died in 1477, leaving his young daughter as sole heir to the lands of Burgundy. The daughter Mary married Maximilian of Austria - but she died suddenly, leaving their young son as Duke and the father as regent. Maximilian made an agreement with Louis whereby Burgundy would cede territories along the Franco-Burgundian border, and his daughter would marry Louis' heir, the future Charles VIII. By doing so, Edward's daughter Elizabeth was cast aside. She was pledged to marry young Charles by the Treaty of Picquigny. Moreover, whereas before, Burgundy was a state sympathetic to England and antipathetic to France (and Charles had been Edward's brother-in-law), now Burgundy and France seemed to be coming into accommodation with one another.
love the wars of the roses videos you really take the time to sketch the context of the scenario which makes the videos come alive. would love to see some Dutch history in the future like the 80 years war.
@@KingsandGenerals amazing to hear, you should also definitely cover the dutch capturing the pride of the british navy in London. and you probably have a lot of other subjects planned but i would like to see the chinese hemisphere aswell, like i have a lot to learn about Manchu, Qinq, China which i don't know anything about atm. just some suggestions xD
I've watched several videos the past couple months on the Wars of the Roses and I do think this is the best one. I was able to pull away much easier who was who the tangled families & all their shifting alliances. (Admittedly reinforcement & repetition are good learning strategies, but in any case ...) Congratulations on another great video & thank you again.
@@KingsandGenerals Or atleast make a mini-doccumentary on the battles of Diu and cannanor (Including the siege). 2 battles that proved the european technological superiority, gave portugal the indian sea-trade and deminished Ottoman power (eventually indirectly leading to their defeat during the battle of lepanto)
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 On the contrary, I like turks and I find their history very interesting. It's just that the Portuguese-Ottoman war was an important event that almost no one knows about
@Syed Ahmed If i remeber correctly after the battle of Constantinople the turks would develope huge and giant cannons thatwere very slow however euripe would develope small but faster to relode cannons.
Thank you, this is the most detailed explanation of the battle that I've heard of, I'm fascinated by this era because I live not far from Pembroke castle where Henry was born and have been to Mill bay on the Dale peninsula where Henry came ashore in 1485, it amazings me how they disembarked on that beach given the topography, the horses would most certainly have struggled
When we were in grade 6, we were forced to cover this battle and even make a report on it, which made me hate it since I had to pretty much knit-pick every detail of the battle. Now that Kings and Generals has made a video about it, I have a different perspective of the battle. Thanks, Kings and Generals, and keep it up!
Another great reason for me to wake up today 😁. Thankyou kings for making these great videos and teaching us so much about history. Keep up the great work
Talk about the frequency illusion! Last night I was watching a documentary of the Tudor dynasty up to Edward the V. What a fitting time for this upload! "I die a faithful kings servant, but Gods first". - Sir Thomas Moore
Great video! I’d like to point out though that generally contemporary accounts all agree that Henry’s personal body guard didn’t directly engage in the main battle between Howard and de Vere. The horse flanking manoeuvre on Norfolk’s left was probably led by George Talbot, noted as commanding a unit of mounted spears. It’s believed that Richard in fact spotted Henry and his body guard crossing an exposed area beyond the rear of the fighting making his way towards Stanley’s position (presumably to try to convince him to commit to his cause). It was at this moment that Richard took his chance and William Stanley -frustrated by his older brothers indecisiveness - swept in on Tudors side. Also it’s important to recognise Rhys ap Thomas’ crucial role in this battle. His 1000 or so vengeful Welsh soldiers really gave the Ricardians a beating! They added a huge boost of strength for the Lancastrians.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 it might overall. But the episode Michael sapochnik is directing will probably make up for it. Hardhome and botb were both fantastic and directed by sapochnik.
@@CamelsHighOnCrayons Despite being a book fan I'd say the first four or five seasons were good. I knew the show was going downhill once they had the Sand Snakes kill all the Martells in contradiction to everything we know about their characters and motivations.
This channel has evolved so well. At first I didn't really like it because of the lacking animation and (IIRC) bit cartoonish style. Yet now I am amazed at how beautiful style and interesting commentary this video had. This is entering Baz Battles quality. I love it! More video please, as an idea, maybe the Iberian Wedding?
I'd argue personally that it might have surpassed baz battles or at least is equal in animation and quality. This together with the frequency of uploads and new "idea's" (like locusta, ottoman fratricide, ...) put this channel well above Baz battles.
@@MDP1702 You're right on that. If you look at his Franz Ferdinand video and the video on the beginning of the 100 years war, he definitely surpassed Baz Battles.
Found it cool when he said Henry had allies in Leicester, just recently found out I am descended from the Radclyffe's of Leicester, and that my great grandfather Sir John Radclyffe fought and died serving the Lancastrians at Bosworth. Pretty cool.
I'm with you on that. I have my three ring genealogy binder in my hands, turned to some English ancestor pages from that era and listening to the names.
Did you miss multiplying that "Great" in grandfather by a factor of 15??? or since your grandfather died in 1485, did your grandfather and father manage to live for a combined 500+ years?
Needs revision with the battlefield now being discovered about 2 ish miles away from Ambien Hill. I like the fact you are impartial and don’t take sides
@@KingsandGenerals you make some of my favourite types of content History Vids and narrative Let's plays Keep up the great work you do Can't wait for the fire Margin to continue
Love these little docs especially the graphics - wish we’d had them at prep school for history - which coincidentally was in Coventry! Although don’t remember all those forests and mountains 🤔😅... ah there was Gibbet Hill where we went sledging once but that’s about it... we subsequent smoked spliffs in the ruins of Kenilworth Castle - which the aforementioned Margaret of Anjou used as base I have just discovered! 😊👍
Hey look it's "Battle of the bastards" from GoT. This battle seems similar by several aspects. First the underdog was supported throughout the commoners. Secondly the significantly smaller army charged instead of taking a defensive stance. Thirdly the underdog was supported at the end by a third army, like last hope in a desperate situation, as their cavalry crushed through the lines of Richard III.
@@nomooon Thats true. In size of the army, u're right. But in composition its the same, since The Valley had greater army but brough only the cavalry cos thats the fastest unit that can come in time.
Not to mention that the Yorkist//Bolton commander had recently deposed his relative(s) to seize power (Though in Bolton's case, he fed his baby brother to the dogs instead of "just" locking up his teenage nephews. The comparison is actually pretty ironic, given that the Starks are usually compared to the Yorks, not the Lancasters.
great video, the best channel in RUclips . may i suggest to make video about battle of Didgori 1121 it was one of the greates battle in history Georgia vs Seljuks
I think it has be pointed out how clever Stanley was, Richard was winning, he could have joined him and taken the day. Instead he comes in on the side of the Lancastrians saving Henry's life and the Lancasterians from defeat. If he'd supported Richard yeah he might get a small reward begrudgingly seen as he did very little. Whereas coming in on the side of Henry, he saves Henry's life, he wins the battle and the war, therefore he could ask for whatever he wanted from the new king.
Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby is my 15th great grampa. Had ancestors on both sides. One fought for Richard and was killed there. Considering Stanley was the step-father of Henry Tudor I am amazed Richard counted on him. Also related to the Neville's.
Glad you got to this battle. If you guys are going to do more English wars may I suggest the Spanish Amanda that tried to invade England during the Reign of Elizabeth I.
Fun n interesting video. Henry Tudor was the ultimate winner in this war. I wonder what would have happened if Richard won instead. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
Will you do the Battle of Stoke? It is an often overlooked battle in the Wars of the Roses, despite being the final engagement between the Lancastrians and Yorkists
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1. It is highly recommended to pause at 3:26 and look at the family tree.
2. Speaking of the family tree, we have "condensed" it somewhat. There were 2 Johns of Somerset and the first of them was the father to John of Somerset and Edmund of Somerset.
3. The sources are conflicted about the battle, so there are other versions. Some of the sources put Stanleys to the north of the battlefield, as their main holdings were to the north, however, they also had lands to the south of Bosworth, and the logic of the battle tells me that they were to the south. There is also a matter of the troops Henry Tudor had, some sources claim that most of his troops were from France and Scotland. We know that at least 1000 French soldiers fought for him, but that can't be said about the Scots - he obviously had no time to get any troops from the Scotland proper, so a few sources claimed that the French king gave him a unit of his Scots Guards (Garde Écossaise), but it is hard to believe in that, as the kings don't usually give away their guards.
4. Some scholars think that Stanley and Buckingham participated in the disappearances of the Princes in the Tower, either to help Richard III or to make the nobles and the commoners hate him.
5. More planned on the British history - your support would help us immensely! Even 1$ is a big deal for a youtube channel and it will give you early access to our videos: www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals
Ottoman Wars pleas
yes,i miss your ottoman series too...
@@jerrykeranen813 same thought ran through my mind as I started this one!
1) second the pausing unless you already know all the players. 2) Do you have a full genealogy on your site (downloadable to study more closely)? 4) Helping him to turn opinion against him seems very convoluted - too much "I know that you know that I know ..." thinking. Additionally very dangerous if that becomes known. There must be plenty of supporting evidence to prevent that theory from being dismissed as speculation.
Could you make series about servile wars and the history of spartacus?
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Thank you , i was just going to ask . Ive been using the imperium mod and age of vikings . But gosh i have to do the 1212 mod now . Thanks
@@nvmtt i think i have it mixed up with another medieval mod. I think its called 1080 , its a large mod with files added from google drive .
1212 and 1212 are not conflicting each other?
daniel martinez daniel martinez 1080 or 1220? 1220 is a pain in the arse to install. You need download 11 files from the workshop and another major one on his google drive.
Btw, 1220 has campaign and it is fun.
I have nothing but respect for this channel they do history as it is they dont favoritize anyone a true historian must be neutral and non political.
Thank you very much, that is our goal. :-)
lmao how would they politicize the war of the roses? by saying they think the yorks were better?
@@yaboi-rx4eq i was talking about the channel in general
It is kinda hard to be biased in an 800 yo conflict fought by two families of medieval dumbasses. Anyway, you are right, this channel is epic
You've obviously never read any comments on stuff about southeastern Europe (Balkan, Greece, Hungary...). Or the Middle East (Crusades, anyone?). India is also big on this.
It is _very_ easy and quite common to politicise 800 yo conflicts fought by medieval dumbasses.
Although the Wars of the Roses don't carry that much modern baggage, so staying politically neutral is not too hard.
The battle of Bosworth was one of the biggest turnarounds in history. The Yorkists were dominating the entire war and then they lose one battle to Henry Tudor and it is over.
like hannibal
Richard III lost a big number of the traditional York allies. Everyone was tired of the dynastic war and Richard angered both the nobles and the commoners with his power grab.
yes, my first thought was that it was Henry III with his vanity that put house of York in a severely weakened position in which York house ultimately lost. That power grab was a stupid and selfish idea.
He most likely murdered his nephews, even in those days that doesn't impress anyone. Plus he no longer had the Nevilles
@@KingsandGenerals also thomas stanley is married to henrys mother margaret beaufort, and margaret is part of a close household of richard, she gained a lot of power by being close to the King and married to a powerful noble which is thomas. Thomas will of course side with her wife and support henry, the only reason why he was undecided up to the battle was the size of Richard army.
Your videos on the War of the Roses makes me wish for a more in depth event chain for England in Europa Universalis IV
Alas, the games can't get to that level of detail. For now.
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Paradox has destroyed my life and left me poor. I love Paradox.
_"A horse, his kingdom for a horse!"_
A card, a card, my kingdom for a card.
Yu Gi Oh Duelist of Roses taught me better than school
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V. Athanasiou Blackadder: Hey that's my horse! *cuts off head*
@@gandulftehred9989 wtf is that
"God forbid that I retreat one step. I will either win the battle as a king, or die as one." - Richard III, after being dismounted.
I feel like the overall view of Richard III is highly negative but as an Asian with no ties or interest to either side, I find him to be an admirable king.
@@sundarpichai940 I also like him. He was cunning and ruthless but he was brave, which makes up for a lot of his negative traits. His death is the stuff of legend and marked the end of chivalry in England.
@@medievalmike5562The negative traits he displayed were essentially him just acting like any noble of his time, meaning we should not judge him based on today's standards
Sad reality is that he would have been an incredibly effective king. He was one of the, f**k the rules, I'm king types. Which isn't always the best but with Richard who had experience, I think he would have done good work. Also, remember that Edward V was barely a teen when he inherited the throne, would not have been able to rule well enough.
@@duplicitouscanadian3073 He was a wasted opportunity for one of England's best kings
I want to thank you guys for this channel. You probably dont know me, but i comment on many of your videos. Your channel is great. It actually give me an extra reason to be happy every Thursday and Sunday. It might sound quite repetitive, but i thank you. Maybe you can feel it, but it comes from the bottom of my heart. I am actually holding money to buy merch, both because is cool and because you deserve the support. You are doing a great work, because you enjoy it. If you didnt, then it wouldn't had this quality. Once more, thank you, you created a great place and community. Have great holidays and a great new year!!
So happy to hear that! Please, don't worry about the merch if it is going to put a strain on your finances. Happy holidays!
@@KingsandGenerals No worries. Keep it up! Great video as always
@@paulbryson111 Thank you very much!
Bosworth was not 'one battle and over' for the Yorkists. Tudor historians like to ignore the Battle of Stoke in 1487 which Tudor nearly lost while further invasions and fighting continued until 1497 with the Battle of Blackheath. Henry VII and VIII continued to hunt down and execute anyone with Yorkist blood until well into the 1530s. Read a book called The Last White Rose by Desmond Seward.
www.goodreads.com/book/show/7757358-the-last-white-rose
Right now they are building a racetrack over the site of the battle, and some Historians are opposing it, but it isn't getting enough attention.
Goddammit, I had no idea, otherwise, we would have worked it into the video.
I know! I hope the historical community worldwide wins this battle. Of all places, why place a test track over this site. Imagine the uproar if they put something over Gettysburg for example.
Capitalism at it again.
I only live 12 miles away from Bosworth and no they are not putting a race track on it.
There has been a study of the battle field and it's actually just over a Mile away from ambion hill
Time team made a very good documentary about it
Good, as then people will then visit it more, an recall the battle as reminders will add this. In hounslow the the treaty centre mall was named after a truce between saxons an vikings over 1000+ yrs ago.
Blackadder killed Richard.
Most probably. :-)
Don't make it anymore complicated
"That's my horsey"
In Yorkshire at almost every gig the crowd starts to chant "White rose, white rose, white rose". Its the best!
Interesting. Thank you!
It was a great series. Wars of the Roses were always one of my favorite topics.
Thank you very much! :-)
with so many Henrys, Richards and Elizabeth names to remember, this is best visual and well explained recount of the War of Roses. Thank you so very much!!!!
Love all the back story and build up to the battle. These videos have only gotten better with time.
Thank you very much!
Hey K&G,
Just dropping by quickly to wish you guys a happy holiday and a great new year in advance (in case you don't post until then).
Of course, this was another brilliant video. This whole year has been brilliant! The quality of your videos have drastically improved and you have been consistently giving us viewers high-quality and fascinating videos. So thank you for that. Really.
2019 will be undeniably even better for you guys and I am looking forward to what you will offer us.
Please take some time off for the holidays! I can't remember the last time you guys took a break to be honest haha I think I speak for everyone when I say you deserve it.
Cheers!
Thank you, my friend! Same to you!
@@KingsandGenerals Thank you!
Hey Kings and Generals, Great video on the battle that shaped England for years. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for watching!
I always start my Sunday mornings watching Kings and Generals which is an awesome way to start the day.
5:03 subtle burgundian succession war.
Good eye :-)
Philippe de Commynes, a counselor to Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, and later a counselor to Louis XI, King of France, claimed that it was the renunciation of the Treaty of Picquigny that caused Edward IV's apoplexy and early death. Charles the Bold died in 1477, leaving his young daughter as sole heir to the lands of Burgundy. The daughter Mary married Maximilian of Austria - but she died suddenly, leaving their young son as Duke and the father as regent. Maximilian made an agreement with Louis whereby Burgundy would cede territories along the Franco-Burgundian border, and his daughter would marry Louis' heir, the future Charles VIII. By doing so, Edward's daughter Elizabeth was cast aside. She was pledged to marry young Charles by the Treaty of Picquigny. Moreover, whereas before, Burgundy was a state sympathetic to England and antipathetic to France (and Charles had been Edward's brother-in-law), now Burgundy and France seemed to be coming into accommodation with one another.
love the wars of the roses videos you really take the time to sketch the context of the scenario which makes the videos come alive. would love to see some Dutch history in the future like the 80 years war.
Yeah, we'll get there!
@@KingsandGenerals amazing to hear, you should also definitely cover the dutch capturing the pride of the british navy in London. and you probably have a lot of other subjects planned but i would like to see the chinese hemisphere aswell, like i have a lot to learn about Manchu, Qinq, China which i don't know anything about atm. just some suggestions xD
Outstanding as always!! I adore your work, particularly on English history!! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Extremely well done! Y’all bring history alive and make it fun to watch. Please keep the awesome videos coming and God bless you!
Congratulations on wrapping up a very complete and well-presented series.
Thank you for watching!
How to win a medieval battle: flank
Its valid for every kind of battle even modern ones.
Thank you for a breakdown of the battle. This will help my writing.
George of Clarence was allegedly drowned in a barrel of wine, inspiring that creepy English children's song about Malmsey wine
I remember that part in Philippa Gregory's The White Queen.
TRUE! But he did have to get out twice to go to the toilet.
There is no factual evidence of any such thing. This started with Shakespeare's Richard III.
I've watched several videos the past couple months on the Wars of the Roses and I do think this is the best one. I was able to pull away much easier who was who the tangled families & all their shifting alliances. (Admittedly reinforcement & repetition are good learning strategies, but in any case ...) Congratulations on another great video & thank you again.
Thank you, good sir!
This is very well documented, really like your documentary/strategy video Kings and General.
Man, the editing on these are really good, you guys are making great improvements! As always, keep up the good work.
Thank you! We will!
I just realized that in many of your episode intros there is a load of informational text at the edges of the screeen, nice addition
;-)
Do the Portuguese-Ottoman conflict!
We'll see!
@@KingsandGenerals Or atleast make a mini-doccumentary on the battles of Diu and cannanor (Including the siege). 2 battles that proved the european technological superiority, gave portugal the indian sea-trade and deminished Ottoman power (eventually indirectly leading to their defeat during the battle of lepanto)
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 It was a big shift in power and is very overlooled. How isn't that interesting?
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 On the contrary, I like turks and I find their history very interesting. It's just that the Portuguese-Ottoman war was an important event that almost no one knows about
@Syed Ahmed If i remeber correctly after the battle of Constantinople the turks would develope huge and giant cannons thatwere very slow however euripe would develope small but faster to relode cannons.
This is why I got love at first sight to this channel... because of the introduction was so catchy.
Thank you :-)
@@KingsandGenerals You're welcome!
Thank you, this is the most detailed explanation of the battle that I've heard of, I'm fascinated by this era because I live not far from Pembroke castle where Henry was born and have been to Mill bay on the Dale peninsula where Henry came ashore in 1485, it amazings me how they disembarked on that beach given the topography, the horses would most certainly have struggled
Your channel is great, I have been rewatching tons of the old videos and seeing the series back to back is so great.
Glad to hear that!
@@KingsandGenerals As a man born and bred in Leicester I am only proud my small city's heritage
When we were in grade 6, we were forced to cover this battle and even make a report on it, which made me hate it since I had to pretty much knit-pick every detail of the battle. Now that Kings and Generals has made a video about it, I have a different perspective of the battle. Thanks, Kings and Generals, and keep it up!
Thanks for watching :-)
Singh Anmol preet your lucky you did anything on British history they don't teach it any more
@@grub833 well it was a british curriculum school
Singh Anmol preet what year was it beacasye I never learned anything about British history it was all American history sugch as the wild west
@@grub833 it was in 2012 or 13 but it was in kenya. There was a british curriculum school there where I went.
Another great reason for me to wake up today 😁. Thankyou kings for making these great videos and teaching us so much about history. Keep up the great work
We will, thank you! :-)
Talk about the frequency illusion! Last night I was watching a documentary of the Tudor dynasty up to Edward the V. What a fitting time for this upload!
"I die a faithful kings servant, but Gods first". - Sir Thomas Moore
Great video! I’d like to point out though that generally contemporary accounts all agree that Henry’s personal body guard didn’t directly engage in the main battle between Howard and de Vere. The horse flanking manoeuvre on Norfolk’s left was probably led by George Talbot, noted as commanding a unit of mounted spears. It’s believed that Richard in fact spotted Henry and his body guard crossing an exposed area beyond the rear of the fighting making his way towards Stanley’s position (presumably to try to convince him to commit to his cause). It was at this moment that Richard took his chance and William Stanley -frustrated by his older brothers indecisiveness - swept in on Tudors side. Also it’s important to recognise Rhys ap Thomas’ crucial role in this battle. His 1000 or so vengeful Welsh soldiers really gave the Ricardians a beating! They added a huge boost of strength for the Lancastrians.
History is incredible! Thanks!
And before the video, the teaser of the last season of Game of Thrones appeared as advertisement, how convenient!
Huh. :-)
I hope it doesn't suck like last season
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 it might overall. But the episode Michael sapochnik is directing will probably make up for it. Hardhome and botb were both fantastic and directed by sapochnik.
@@supahwafflz You watched 7 seasons of a show that you apparently didn't like from the start?
@@CamelsHighOnCrayons Despite being a book fan I'd say the first four or five seasons were good. I knew the show was going downhill once they had the Sand Snakes kill all the Martells in contradiction to everything we know about their characters and motivations.
I found your videos tonight, are awesome, I know that I'll spend many times to see more in the next days!
Welcome aboard! New videos every Thursday and Sunday. Early access and schedule for the patrons and all that :-)
Good video guys, I really liked the use of visuals during the battle, hopefully you guys will use that more in the future
Thank you, there will be more!
Nothing better then waking up, making coffee.. and finding a new kings and generals video on youtube...
This was really helpful for my homework! Thanks :)
i feel my brain is going to explode! these conflicts for the thrown are too complicated! but great video
Thanks! We actually simplified it quite a bit.
+Kings and Generals "quite a bit"
This channel has evolved so well. At first I didn't really like it because of the lacking animation and (IIRC) bit cartoonish style. Yet now I am amazed at how beautiful style and interesting commentary this video had. This is entering Baz Battles quality. I love it! More video please, as an idea, maybe the Iberian Wedding?
Thank you very much! We'll see!
I'd argue personally that it might have surpassed baz battles or at least is equal in animation and quality. This together with the frequency of uploads and new "idea's" (like locusta, ottoman fratricide, ...) put this channel well above Baz battles.
@@MDP1702
You're right on that. If you look at his Franz Ferdinand video and the video on the beginning of the 100 years war, he definitely surpassed Baz Battles.
I don't comment on videos but as a history nerd I always enjoy your videos. Great work guys.
Thank you! We are always happy to get your feedback.
I was really hoping to find this battle on your channel!
What many other RUclips channel failed to do you succeed
This is first channel where I actually understand war of roses and got interested in it
Wars of the roses made me fall in love with history
I was waiting for battle of bosworth. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Found it cool when he said Henry had allies in Leicester, just recently found out I am descended from the Radclyffe's of Leicester, and that my great grandfather Sir John Radclyffe fought and died serving the Lancastrians at Bosworth. Pretty cool.
Just imagine all the rewards he missed out on by dying for the winning side!
I'm with you on that. I have my three ring genealogy binder in my hands, turned to some English ancestor pages from that era and listening to the names.
Did you miss multiplying that "Great" in grandfather by a factor of 15??? or since your grandfather died in 1485, did your grandfather and father manage to live for a combined 500+ years?
6:04 Ooooooh yes, you play that 'War of Kings' soundtrack and take your damn like.
:-)
I seriously love this channel. And love me some total war. Thanks for another awesome video guys.
Thank you!
"A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!"
Top fact: Richard's body was found under a car park in Leicester a couple of years ago.
I just love your animated maps. they are outstanding
Thank you!
Great stuff as always! Can't wait for the series about the gallic wars
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much. This is amazing!
Thanks for watching!
Needs revision with the battlefield now being discovered about 2 ish miles away from Ambien Hill.
I like the fact you are impartial and don’t take sides
Just discovered this channel by complete accedent you are officially my favourite youtuber
Welcome aboard!
@@KingsandGenerals you make some of my favourite types of content History Vids and narrative Let's plays Keep up the great work you do
Can't wait for the fire Margin to continue
Great video! I'd like to see one on the "pike and shot" tactics used during 16th and 17th century Europe.
Thanks for watching! We are planning that.
Beautiful Video! Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you very much!
love it, war of the roses is a fascinating period
lol I love how you guys keep changing the logo to suit the theme of the video
More like the theme of the month :-)
There is no King but the King in the North who's name is York.
This should have 3.6k likes
Lancaster You Mean!!!
@@alleynealisleem9777 Not in terms of the influence for the kings in the North of Game of Thrones.
Fab channel and very well presented! Keep up the good work! Battle of Stoke Field would be a good episode! :)
Superb and informative, thank you
love your vids, super high quality. Would you consider doing a bit more modern history? I really enjoyed the series on WW2
Thank you ver much!
This channel is the bees knees ..best History channel bar none in my opinion! AA++
This documentary is amazing.
Love these little docs especially the graphics - wish we’d had them at prep school for history - which coincidentally was in Coventry! Although don’t remember all those forests and mountains 🤔😅... ah there was Gibbet Hill where we went sledging once but that’s about it... we subsequent smoked spliffs in the ruins of Kenilworth Castle - which the aforementioned Margaret of Anjou used as base I have just discovered! 😊👍
I know about this battle. Henry VII's family or dynasty was the Tudors and his son was Henry VIII. Once again the best video ever
Thank you!
Great video as always! /a long time fan
Thank you, Emil!
Great video as always.
Thank you very much!
Hey look it's "Battle of the bastards" from GoT. This battle seems similar by several aspects. First the underdog was supported throughout the commoners. Secondly the significantly smaller army charged instead of taking a defensive stance. Thirdly the underdog was supported at the end by a third army, like last hope in a desperate situation, as their cavalry crushed through the lines of Richard III.
Alot of idea's for GoT came from English history including the map itself.
but in battle of bastards I got the feeling that the reinforcements were much stronger than the original forces.
@@itzikashemtov6045 Yeah, im aware of that.
@@nomooon Thats true. In size of the army, u're right. But in composition its the same, since The Valley had greater army but brough only the cavalry cos thats the fastest unit that can come in time.
Not to mention that the Yorkist//Bolton commander had recently deposed his relative(s) to seize power (Though in Bolton's case, he fed his baby brother to the dogs instead of "just" locking up his teenage nephews.
The comparison is actually pretty ironic, given that the Starks are usually compared to the Yorks, not the Lancasters.
6:04 "War of Kings" soundtrack makes me cry.... love it
Plz do the Tudors! You guys are amazing!
Thank you!
Keep up the good work this helped me alot
Best channel about history.
Thanks!
I certainly hope you do some Henry stuff.he was just great lol.
This Henry was tame. Now, his son... :-)
@@KingsandGenerals quite!
great video, the best channel in RUclips . may i suggest to make video about battle of Didgori 1121 it was one of the greates battle in history Georgia vs Seljuks
Britain has very reach documented history
@@heroe480 since 1066 actually
Taffy Ducks The Norman’s didn’t invade England after Hastings, it took them a long time to fully take over
Excellent video, Excellent website!
Thank you, good sir! :-)
I think it has be pointed out how clever Stanley was, Richard was winning, he could have joined him and taken the day. Instead he comes in on the side of the Lancastrians saving Henry's life and the Lancasterians from defeat. If he'd supported Richard yeah he might get a small reward begrudgingly seen as he did very little. Whereas coming in on the side of Henry, he saves Henry's life, he wins the battle and the war, therefore he could ask for whatever he wanted from the new king.
last time i was this early there were still some mongolian envoys hangin out... alive...
They will hang again in the future videos. :-)
Now they were be defeated if God wills
Umar Ansari wut u say boi?
Said Besimoğlu son, I am saying that now Mongols will lose battles
@@umaransari9765 And their worst enemy has not even come...
Being from Leicester it was crazy when we found Richard the third remember it. Like yesterday
Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby is my 15th great grampa. Had ancestors on both sides. One fought for Richard and was killed there.
Considering Stanley was the step-father of Henry Tudor I am amazed Richard counted on him. Also related to the Neville's.
11:25 A horse a horse , my Kingdom for a Horse !!!
What an awesome way to wake up on a Sunday morning! Pancakes and kings and generals
Bon appetit!
Love your work! Can you consider in the future covering the campaigns of Simon Bolivar?
Thank you very much! Yes, it is planned!
@@KingsandGenerals You guys are the best! Look forward to it!!! Thanks.
great channel,great work again,keep going ^^
Thank you very much!
9:38 John Howard Duke of Norfolk, and Henry Percy Earl of Northumberland
Happy holidays!
Same to you! :-)
Glad you got to this battle. If you guys are going to do more English wars may I suggest the Spanish Amanda that tried to invade England during the Reign of Elizabeth I.
Fun n interesting video. Henry Tudor was the ultimate winner in this war. I wonder what would have happened if Richard won instead. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
Perfect, how always
Thanks!
Another great video! will you be going into the rebellions after Henry the 7ths victory and their battles e.g the battle of stoke?
Thanks! We'll see, no promises. :-)
Obrigado pelos vídeos. Está ajudando muito em meus estudos aqui....
Will you do the Battle of Stoke? It is an often overlooked battle in the Wars of the Roses, despite being the final engagement between the Lancastrians and Yorkists
No promises, but I will look into that.
Can you please do a video on the Neo-Assyrian empire? Probably the most underrated and overlooked empire in history.
And then, of course, 6 years ago a group of archaeologists recovered the skeletal remains of King Richard III from beneath a parking lot.
Interesting, I had no idea :-)
You should visit king Richard the 3rd visitor centre in Leicester , I really recommend it
War is always try tragic for both parties involved.