Uvalde shooting aftermath: Austin American-Statesman reporter on the video of the police response
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
- Tony Plohetski, a reporter at the Austin American-Statesman, talks with Katie about his publication's decision to publish a video showing the police response to the Robb Elementary School shooting in Uvalde, Texas.
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I just watched the video from the hallway.
None of those officers should ever work in law enforcement again...ever.
thats the bottom line
Worst thing a dad (sheriff) who's daughter was killed, was waiting in the hallway with the other officers...how can u live with that
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People keep saying it was his daughter I've read many articles saying his wife was a teacher.she called him saying she was dying. He was eventually detained and kept from going in.
@@watsonz4696 teacher's husband was an uvalde police officer and the sheriff's daughter was killed she was in Mr Reyes' classroom
They move faster to address the "leak" than they did for the response
If the police have decided to harass you because you are telling the world of their cowardice and ineptitude, they are in fact showing you why they didn't bother saving those poor people that day. Because they are in charge their lives have more value than those they morally should protect (by law they are under no duty to protect you if they are put at risk) and they will tell you what they want you to know about the great valor they showed. Watch for the awards soon
The "wrong" was already done to the families, 7 weeks ago. They were not compelled to watch the tape, but the greater good would be for the world to see the facts without the spin.
I understand why the families were upset over the way the video was released and I sympathize greatly. But in the interest of justice for the families I absolutely think it needed to be released. From day one the authorities have been covering up, deflecting and avoiding transparency about what occurred. And with each bit of information that manages to dribble out, the police response looks worse and worse. This video needed to come out to keep the heat on police officials for accountability and to not let this incident just get swept under the rug.
I believe they should go a step further and make the GQP, NRA and gun manufacturers have to see the crime scenes they're responsible for. They should have to face what they've done with their ridiculous attitude that guns are toys.
I'm not saying show the public, unless like Emmett Till's mother, you want to make a statement. Show what kind of horrors walk among us and the results of what doing nothing about them amounts to. Having to give someone your DNA to identify your child, because of a handful of selfish gun freaks, is something that should NEVER HAPPEN.
I agree with you. The reporter said the video was a few weeks old. They state should have shown the video to the local community weeks ago. It appears they were dragging their feet.
Yup the people that released the video at worst need to be the very last people criticized, and in my opinion did the exact right thing. All those cops in that hallway should thank their lucky stars they live in a 1st world country and not in like Pakistan because theyd have been dragged out of their homes by a gigantic mob by now and lit on fire.
My thoughts exactly. Some folks like to trash the media, accusing them of stirring things up and lying; if not for the media putting things such as this out there, it would be dragged out until they could sweep it under the carpet.
Yeah I can see both sides , it’s all awful.
When I also found out the one cop checking his phone. His wife was a teacher . She said .I'm shot and dying. The other officer's took his phone and forced him outside. Then just allowing those children to die. I'm so angry and heartbreaking
Parents who wanted to run in FOR THEIR CHILDREN were evidently treated very poorly, some being handcuffed.
Any parent would be willing to risk his/ her life for their child. They were all rendered impotent. Run off.
It doesn't just defy logic, the lack of response defies humanity towards one another....Just Sooooo sad and inexcusable.....My heart breaks for these families and All of us who depend on law enforcement to do the right thing.....
Well said....it defies Humanity
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It happened because cops in America were founded on and "thrives" thru trampling on the rights of "some" Americans depending on which side of the r/r tracks one resides. A man in Akron was "shredded" with police bullets and was unarmed even if police "say" they found a (planted) gun. In Uvalde police heard kids dying and stood around jerking off. America is getting its "just reward" for hypocrisy...
Exactly! Except for the part where this entire "story" is a fabrication. Your government is actively colluding against the people of the United States to enact the unthinkable. Wake up to the harsh reality that Americans are being led to slaughter. Sadly most of you will scoff at this comment and merely view it as a "conspire(acy) theory" until it's been "seen on TV" and "verified" by "experts!"
Ship is sinking.
Tony. Thank you for having the courage to do the right thing. It amazes me how our elected officials tried to hide this from us Their actions are totally inexcusable.
the "courage" to leak a video of a shooting BEFORE notifying the families of the victims? Lol no. Tony just wanted to be the hero. He didn't care about the parents of the murdered kids who wanted to see the video first, and still hasn't apologized
It does defy all logic, they failed these children and the teachers who died that day. Lying by these departments is a crime in itself, and I wouldn't trust any of them from here on out. Thank you Tony and Katie!
Uvalde Chief Pete Arredondo is 100% to blame. This nonsense about other agencies are to blame also is a scam. Uvalde police were on site within 3 minutes. The other agencies did not show up until much later. Chief Arredondo was telling all of the officers in their earpiece to stand down. Now why did the other agencies not rush in immediately when they arrived? Because Arredondo touted to the other agencies that they have all the Intel and they have been on site from the beginning and they clearly told the other agencies to stand down because they knew better and they have all the Intel because they have been there from the beginning.
@@SlumberSource yes, I remember hearing more about him right after the event. He needs to step down at the very least. So very sad for these families who can't get a straight answer. In my humble opinion several heads need to roll, and these poor families need to be compensated for aftercare, it's going to take a good deal of therapy for them to learn to manage this incredible pain and frustration.
I didn't trust the police from the 1st day. I knew that the 1st police spokesperson was lying trying to cover their sorry asses.
It's not defying logic. It plain and simple cowardice. You can't teach bravery or strength. You either have guts or you don't.
Alex, guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do believe with the right encouragement and leadership, one can become brave, but it must start early on. These cowards are typical, big talkers with their big guns strapped on, but in reality all talk!
Children waited for adults to rescue them.
Their parents were willing.
Police said no.
Imagine the abandoned children.
Waiting on professionals to do their job.
Yet, they never did.
I'm crushed.
The singular silver lining in this sea of wrong is that after the fact none of those babies has to experience/learn about the disgusting abandonment that was done to them. Thats the only shred of a good thing that I can claw out of this. The totality of the facts really has this getting up there as one of the worst, most painful things in world history.
Um. You do realize the kids were all dead long before any police officer showed up. The shooter killed them instantly within minutes as soon as he locked himself in that classroom
@@Nall412 a teacher that was actually there said cops were there when kids where being shot like cattle . A child yelled out we are in here to the police outside the doors and was killed so WHAT are you even talking about .
They edited the portion of the video of the kids screaming and gun shots ringing while and police stood in the hall way so again WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! we ALL seen it!!!
I watched the full released video for the first time yesterday ; prior I’d only seen pieces. It honestly felt like I was watching a training or a drill. Regardless of what they were told or told not to do- there was no urgency. The lackadaisical manner in which they meandered around for an hour- were they waiting on Door Dash? Even if they were told to stand back (and LISTENED, despite being able to overpower one gunman) there were parents outside that given the opportunity, would’ve charged that building single-handedly with a far more appropriate display of an understandable of the emergency these victims were in. I can understand it taking a few minutes to organize. Regroup. Get into some formation or get bearings. But an hour of milling around, walking in and out, I HATE TO SAY THIS - but it was behavior like this that made people question Sandy Hook when they analyzed the emergency response at the fire house and the inconsistency in reports. Doesn’t make it right. But people don’t expect to watch footage of a school massacre and see every official, law enforcement officer walking around like chickens with their heads cut off. That said, I understand two officers were told to stand back (one was held back, as we can see in the video) as one had a wife in a classroom and the other had a daughter. My heart goes out to them, as their behavior has been analyzed and ripped apart before their stories were known. But if a colleague of mine had a loved one in that class room and I knew we overpowered the suspect by what, 40? 50? What stopped them? I never want to hear the “good guy with a gun” theory again.
Not just because it has rarely proven true in cases like THIS, but you can give a team of good guys ARs - and if they’re scared or hesitant to confront one bad guy with that same gun, that says a lot about the power of that weapon - and why are we putting them in that position? And our kids?
You dear man...please do not hesitate to get into trauma counseling need be. With gratitude for the job you do. From a retired journalist.
@Mobile game clips no worries. Journalists always think this crap is just part of the job and rarely talk about needing help processing the ugliness they see. Over years, it piles up until one day it all lands. Sometimes it's good to have a person tell you it's OK to need help.
Jesus, who the frick cares about him and his god-damned "trauma". Don't get me wrong. I do fully comprehend how journalists can be traumatized by their work. But he and his newspaper further traumatized already unbelievably traumatized families. They have the ability to figure out how to contact ALL the families and inform/warn them of what's about to be made public so that they are prepared to avoid unexpectedly seeing the video if that was what they needed to do for their own well being. Their a god-damned news agency! They probably have more resources than law enforcement for locating people. Another 24 hours would not have lost them the scoop or the anticipated prestigious journalism award, I'm sure. And I'm not stupid, I get the whole inform the public as information is available, etc, etc. But there are some "untouchables", some moral and ethical lines that should not be crossed, not even by journalists. Those types of things are extremely rare. So it's not as if it would seriously alter the lives of journalists or the profession of journalism. Another god-damned 24 hours would have made so little, and probably no difference in the grand scheme of things. It was a despicable and unforgivable decision. And despite your warm fuzzy journalistic bond with this pariah, it would definitely be a better decision for the sake of your eternal soul if you concentrated your sympathy and concern about the further unbearable trauma inflicted on the families of the children and teachers, where it is rightly deserved, rather than on someone who unleashed another complete hell on those poor suffering people. Jesus! I never, ever say god-damned. Absolutely never been part of my vocabulary, really. But the failure of people to recognize how unacceptable the reporter and the newspaper's decision was is that infuriating. Now I can't stop saying god-damned. Maybe because the realization that people in journalism have no red lines, and that is an alarming indication that our society really is collapsing. They could have both done right and gotten their story out. But they chose not to. God-damned disgusting, unfathomable failure to do it right, and just just do it instead.
@@auntbutton905 you have no idea the pain thus and every other school shooting causes me. I covered one predating Columbine by about 9 years. Never thought I would see another. I understand your anger. But please don't judge my compassion. You have not, I presume, stood in my shoes. Or his.
Unbelievable!! It seems like the police were more concerned with themselves. My heart breaks for the victims and their families. 💔💔
Because they are cowards acab/acac
The first batch that engaged showed some courage but after that shoot out they went iced cold. Straight up pussies while the children & their teachers were slaughtered
They were hiding in the back behind each other like cowards whole kids were screaming.
Really? "it seems?"
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This is such a huge loss. Why is Texas being allowed to Investigate themselves? The misinformation, the guarded unwillingness to inform, no suspensions or terminations, and the Uvalde police harassing parents and teachers for talking? Why isn’t the federal government investigating all of them? Why haven’t these departments been disband?
You sound surprised that a police department would cover something up.
This is why investigative reporters are critical.
Remember waco Texas, and who investigate that... and how nothing happened.. do you remember how many children died let alone the "cultists" when their church/house was burned down on top of them after being flooded with CS gas.
Exactly. The FBI/Government should be investigating this whole situation..
The DOJ is supposed to be investigating
Every officer at that scene should be fired.. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DISGUSTING COWARDS .. HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT AFTER YOU DID NOTHING TO STOP BABIES FROM BEING SLAUGHTERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said.
Amen
Tony and all of the folks at the Statesman do all Texans proud with their journalistic ethics. America has sanitized gun violence and war to the point that most Americans can remain ignorant and unempathetic in the face of this national emergency.
Absolutely. I saw someone associated with victims (don't remember the connection) said that many of the children were rendered UNRECOGNIZABLE.
On TV, it's easy and leaves a little hole, perhaps a bit more. Violence has become everyday diet, and it has created a population inured to the true horror of this all-too-common happening. Every single one of us takes a risk coming out of our houses, and even there, we're not always safe.
Alas.
America refers to the continent, the country is the United States.
@@elpacho....9254 When people in other lands call for our deaths they call us Americans. Is there another country out there where the people are called Americans that I don't know about?
@@LunaSea2850 don’t be surprised, there are ignorant people all over the world. You have to go just a little higher than the msm and Hollywood brain washing, and educate yourself a little. This country is the “ United States “ OF America refers to the continent that the United States is on. The United States ( formerly the United colonies) belonged to Great Britain, but in 1776 the ( 13 colonies) declared war for the United colonies independence from Great Britain, that’s when the we became the“ United States “ bound by the United States constitution ( we the people of the United States...)
The American continent was named after Italian cartographer Amerigo Vespucci in 1507, long before the United States ever existed. The American continent is 515 years old, and the United States is 246 years old. The preposition OF expresses the relation between a part and a whole, which explains how the United States is part of the American continent; and yes there are two regions to the American continent ( north and south).
@@LunaSea2850 America being a country is a misconception. It’s like so called black people actually being brown skinned, but everyone just goes along. Its like native Americans are called Indians, when India is a country in South Asia. Critical thinking people can see when the emperor is naked. America is the continent, everything official in this country is referred to as the United States. The president is referred to as the POTUS( president of the United States) the countries constitution is the United States constitution ( we the people of the United States...) every branch of the military has the prefix United States. Have you ever heard of the American army? The currency in this country is the u.s dollar.
Imagine living in Uvalde and now seeing those same officers in the video on the streets patrolling around. I would be in rage and would probably get locked up. I commend the people who live there and the city not go in a crazy rage against the officers. It would be so hard for me to not want to hurt them.
So the armed forces inside the school heard the children's screams and did still not intervene? Unconscionable.
Police have "active shooter" training. In an emergency situation like that, no one has to be 'in charge." Any officer can breach the door and stop the killing. The Chief erroneously communicated that the shooter was "contained" in an office. He wasted time waiting for keys, SWAT team, etc. Result? Twenty people were killed.
21.
Yup.
Children were calling, horrifically afraid & they were ignored. PERIOD!!! This Smells of something Really Awful...These people were too relaxed, knowing children were being MURDERED😢
They needed the keys to break the windows too. They were “ locked”. They stood there, heard the screams, and waited til the killing was over. Oh and they said they’d release everything “as soon as the parents quit grieving”
Terrible. My brother was murdered 21 years ago. My husband was murdered 12 years ago. The grieving continues.
@@nicolefnjane may you know peace and comfort.
“as soon as the parents quit grieving” ... meaning never.
@@nicolefnjane two murders in one family?
Thank you for releasing this. Yes it hurts the families or many of them, but as a country, a people we need to see the truth as soon as it is possible, you are right that there were huge mistakes made here, until we see the truth of this we will not be able to change the responses and save future lives that would be lost. In addition, in Vietnam we saw the truth of that war in all of its horror, it changed our perception of what the problem was and lead to its end. This may be needed in order for the country to have a full and honest conversation about guns in this country! Thank you both!
"a full and honest conversation about guns" Aaaaaaaaand there it is. "iT's ThE gUnZ! Herp! DERP!!"
@@PanhandleFrank I know in todays world many like you love to make assumptions about people and the comments made. That is a shame and part of the problem we have in this country, with getting things done. I grew up in AZ and have been around guns my whole life, son, ex husband, brother of n law, cousins, father all were hunters and had firearms. So to make an assumption about me, as some “other” does several unhelpful things! First you know what they say about assumptions, next it cuts of any possibility of a conversation, third it makes someone’s opinion or other thought less than yours, at least less valid, I am sure you do not appreciate it when others do that to you. My advice, step back a moment, let go of your assumptions and stance, then listen, really listen, I think you might be surprised by what you are able to hear,
@@gailforbes7834 Yes, I admit it: When someone talks about having "a full and honest conversation about guns in this country!" after a mass shooting, I assume that they want to blame the guns. Because nobody ever talks about having "full and honest conversations" about knives (when someone stabs a half-dozen co-workers), or about Urban Assault Vehicles (aka SUVs) when someone uses one to plow through a Christmas parade.
Other suggestions you virtually never hear: "we need to have a full and honest conversation about psychotropic drugs / mental health / spiritual health / the true foundation of ethics in this country." Nope. Shooting? "iT's ThE gUnZ!!"
"I grew up around guns my whole life! My son, ex-husband, brother-in-law, cousins, father, mailman, gynecologist, and parish priest were all hunters and had firearms!" Cool story, bro. How would you, or any of them, answer this question: "Can you imagine any circumstance whatsoever in which a population might be forced to take up arms against its civil rulers?" Because the Founders certainly could, and the 2A was written to protect the right to bear ARMS, not sporting goods.
I was a "sporting-use" gun owner from about age 16 until about I was about 26 (~ 1987). I served in the USAF (and earned the marksmanship ribbon on the M16, BTW). The one time "assault weapons" (i.e., the semi-auto-only AR15) ever came up in conversation with friends, my opinion was, "I would never own one, because you can't hunt anything with it. [I was wrong.] But I don't know that I would tell my neighbor he couldn't own one." Only after my new wife and I were burglarized one night did I start considering firearms as a tool of home defense. And when I began to study that subject, I learned that the Founders expected the citizenry to own infantry firearms, in the event they ever needed to defend themselves against tyrannical government.
"cOuLd NeVaR hAppEn HeRe" you scoff? Look up the Battle of Athens Tennessee. (Hint: It happened in 1946, not sometime during the Civil War.)
I have owned several semi-auto rifles -- for lawful purposes -- in my 60+ years. And I've had a CCW permit since the late 90s, and have carried daily ever since Sandy Hook.
So let's have a "full and honest" about that.
Hate to admit it, but Em.it Till's open casket is talked about to this day. Coroner photos for those that have health care experience would be helpful. Emergency room Docs should be interviewed every week. Avg Four mass shootings per week. Yes, an EPIDEMIC.
I have seen the entire hall and body cam footage as well as some footage with comments by Curtis Lavarello. He is a former police officer and executive of a school safety group. He was critical of the police action in Uvalde. He pointed out that when you draw fire from a shooter you are stopping the killing more people. He, further, pointed out that running away you are at risk of being shot in the back while allowing the shooter to shoot more innocent people. However, police academies are training cadets to not take risks and 'going home at night' is priority number one.
Basically they are just "good guys" walking around with a gun which they do not want or will not use when the situation requires it .And then we have trigger happy policeman killing on sight unarmed people.Go Go USA !!!!
exactly, when I saw cops running with their backs towards the shooter, I thought WTF? what idiots
Shooting innocent black man for minor traffic stops and getting safely back home seems the work of these cowards. My father used to tell me people become cops for power. Firemen go into their line of work coz they wanna save lives.
Texas needs better and longer training for Cadets for years now. Buffalo got the shooter out alive.
In the NYC police department, stopping the threat, really means the start of overtime, which is a priority to most guys on the job… and most guys on the job would have engaged immediately just with handguns…. There would be no need to wait for emergency service, when there is on-going shooting…stopping the threat is the priority…
It's sad for the parents to see this video but I think it had to be released before the police and powers at be , shut it down and bury it !!
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I'm glad the tape has been released. The press conferences did not ring true. To my eyes, the police let those children and teachers down. It makes me feel disgusted that those police were not doing their job. They should be fired for standing around in the hall. I noticed the hand sanitizer and fist bump portions. What did they think was going on? Yes the school doors should have been locked and schools every where need to take security seriously but that does not excuse the police standing around. No chain of command? They heard bullets what were they waiting for? Mother, may I? How dare they !
Total lack of leadership. The ranking officer should have taken control, made a plan of attack and acted. No one except a Federal employee(s)
dared to breech the door.
I feel awful for the families❤️, but understanding & knowing the real truth, contributes to some kind of healing❤️ Revealing those officer's neglect, perpetuating the situation, endangering those precious lives even further, is beyond comprehension, beyond enfuriating..it is 'full stop' CRIMINAL!!!
@Katie Couric and @Tony Plohetski, this is similar to Emmett Till's mother's decision to have an open casket at his funeral. The world needed to know the horror of his murder. The world needs to know. It is a tough call and decision then, and even more so today in today's politicization of the victims, children who have been murdered.
Sadly, no open caskets appropriate here. Some kids were so mangled ID, besides items of clothing, had to include DNA tests.
I too thought of the murder of Emmett Till and his mother’s courageous decision to have an open casket. In her words “I wanted the world to see what they did to my boy.” As horrific as it is, I think the public needs to see and hear the full horror of these mass shootings. That said, the families should have been able to view the video first (just as Emmitt Till’s mother saw her son before a photo was released to the public).
I have said this before. It sounds gruesome but if we showed the victims of Sany Hook, parkland, aurora, uvalde, etc, we would not have as many people pushing back against more strict gun laws.
People knew what was going on in the US with lynchings, and abusive police, but strong action was only taken once the images started being broadcast on television.
OMG, really! You are so incredibly wrong! It was Marnie Tills decision and hers alone. She got to decide based on her knowledge of herself and how much she's able to endure. The Uvalde parents who, because of a reporter and news agency that has probably more resources than law enforcement to track people down yet failed to, took the right to make that decision away from the families. They all had the right, and the video should not have been released until every family was consulted. They did not even inform and warn ALL of the families so that they could at least avoid seeing the video if that is what they needed to do for their own well being. Instead they were inflicted with further trauma and a fresh hell. My God! Marnie Till did not have control brutally taken from her. She at least had the freedom to decide for herself. But not every family will choose as she did, because in their grief they know they cannot handle it. There is no comparison to be made here. It's two entirely different situations.
@@auntbutton905 I can’t speak for others here, but you misunderstood what I said. Agreed it was Marnie Till’s decision to release the photo (though in 1955 apartheid America, she quite didn’t have much of the “freedom” you refer to) and agreed that the Uvalde families should have been contacted first and collectively decided, if not whether to release the video at least about how to handle the release. But I also agree with the larger point that until the public actually sees the atrocity of this violence little will change. Historically this happened in the Civil Rights Movement and during the Vietnam War - pressure for action dramatically increased as the public saw images of the depth of the violence (yeah, I’m old enough to have witnessed it first hand), and with more recent examples of the videos of the police murders of George Floyd and Eric Garner and others. And let me add that this issue is very personal for me. I’ve lost people to gun violence and yes, I’ve seen the graphic destruction these weapons do to human bodies. Its something you can’t ever unsee…but at least for me, it fortified my commitment to activism.
Thank you for your courageous reporting. The truth and facts must be told, no matter how difficult is is, in order to effect change.
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It's incredible to think that there will be no sanctions for the inaction of law enforcement.
It is. But your SC has said that the police are under no obligation to save you. In fact, they're only responsible for you if you're in their custody. They don't carry guns to protect the public, they carry them to protect themselves. The "serve and protect" looks pretty but it doesn't mean much.
So yeah, the outcome of the entire disgusting cowardice on display and that cavalier inaction (clearly), of them going on like nothing happened, business as usual is very real.
The police are under no legal duty to protect the community it serves. (Warren v. District of Columbia). On June 28, 2005 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the police have no Constitutional duty to protect. They all know this and hope you don't.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
What makes you think they are good men ?
A great quote, most often misattributed to Edmond Burke
Texas "Law of parties" which states" you may be criminally responsible for the criminal behavior of others in situations where you have a legal duty to prevents a crime from occurring and you assist in committing it,or failed to make any reasonable effort to prevent it from occurring"by not responding they failed to show any effort at all,let alone reasonable and by preventing anyone who would have challenged
The shooter they assisted him in his
goals,quite literally. This means legally the reponse team and it's leaders should be held "criminally responsible for the criminal behavior
Of the shooter
Excellent point. The only problem is that on the road to justice that litigation is going to run into spike strips thrown out by SCOTUS, qualified immunity.😡
Look at the harassment and charges to the woman who ran in and got her children. Her charges were finally dropped. My belief that was due to the woman who bravely talked about it to the press. So many times police add on charges to people to force them to accept deals. Honestly, not only the officers should be charged, but the DA as well. Anyone trying to block the information the parents were asking for, should be prosecuted as well. Just my point of view!!
I would like to see a DA take that case and charge them. It will never happen, they are part of the mafia.
@@adventureswithrobinc3262 and a good point it is.
The police are under no legal duty to protect the community it serves. (Warren v. District of Columbia). On June 28, 2005 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the police have no Constitutional duty to protect. They all know this and hope you don't.
I had to stop watching. I knew children and teachers were being slaughtered and wounded. It was too much for me. Atrocious is right in describing the police response.
Yes hiding in the back behind eachother and being praised by their govt. evil
I like that you say what day it is, because I don't always see it the day you put it up and it helps to know when you posted
that one cop who was scrolling on his phone - un-fkg-believable
His wife died in there and she call or text him...
Apparently after that his superior told him to stand down and took away his gun and escorted him away from the scene...
Thank you, Tony for releasing that video. You are a very brave man! I believe that there should be more transparency in these types of sad situations! It can be used as a teaching tool of what not to do in a crisis such as this horrific tragedy! Thanks Katie for having Tony on. You both did a great interview together ❤️ 👏! R.I.P to the deceased, and prayers 🙏 to the fanily and survivors!
It wasn't supposed to be released! The parents of the children who have been murdered were to see it before it was released to the public! Absolutely disrespectful!
Yes thank you to Tony. He is white therefore the cops can't "assassinate" him for telling and SHOWING the truth and get away with it as usual. It is easy for cops to shoot down an unarmed motorist with 60 bullets but to 'risk' their lives on a classroom of little brown kids- blah. People know I'm speaking the truth. Video has revealed so much about police corruption, cowardice, and thuggery- like uniformed cops ON DUTY raping women like Ga deputy Jerry Doyle or ex- OKC cop Dan Holtzclaw. America is seeing firsthand what 'many' already know about police in America...
No key? Kick the door down.
I’m just like, didn’t the gunman already blow it open right away?
Wasn't locked.
The entire video WITH sound of screams and gunfire should be released. America-wake the hell up!
Yes
America is the continent, the country is the United States.
Waiting for a key when the classroom door wasn't even locked......sounds like the Keystone Cops....a clown SH%T show, if there ever was one! And then to endure the police and politician lies and grandstanding, I felt physically ill, listening to the contaminated garbage. My heart goes out to the relatives and surviving victims, not to mention citizens who are now puppets of a Republican party who created the staggering mess in the first place.
The keystone cops would have run in there and given it a go. These morons are not in their league.
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There are so many questions about this shooting with no answers 😢 How does this happen and why wasn’t he stopped? Such a devastating scenario. Good to see you ,Katie 🥰
I feel the same way , 😢 too many questions and no answers!! God bless all the victims and families 🙏💕🙏
Release the names of each cowardice law enforcement officer and post their pictures on the internet!!!
They Need to be fired and banned from working in any law enforcement agency.
Thanks Katie for emphasizing the arduous task that journalists face when deciding whether or not to release information on a story. As some of the public see it ultimately came down to the most important issues at hand. The narrative being released by authorities was not consistent with the undeniable truth the video told. And whether or not to shield the public from graphic imagery. Really? It's ok to show a veteran after they've been ravaged by war but not how it happens if there is a video of it. But these aren't veterans involved, their innocent civilians on the streets of America. And if past episodes of this nature haven't moved people to implement effective measures to stop these horrendous acts then maybe it's time to stop white washing the news and see the reality of it. Reverse engineer that thought process. If effective measures (not bandaids) had been taken we wouldn't be having this conversation more than 300x in less than a year. Reality can sometimes be a bitter pill to swallow. My dad was a journalist before he retired. He taught me the five most relevant questions a reporter should ask; who, what, where, how, and why. What I learned through osmosis was if you don't have an answer, then you never had a question. If you never had a question, then you never had a problem. And if you never had a problem, then everyone would be happy. But if everyone was happy then we would be having these conversations. (Full disclosure: I'm paraphrasing Harry Nilsson~Joy To The World.) I support both the first AND second amendments. Burning the flag🇺🇲 in protest( which I abhor) is protected by the first amendment, I can live with that. But what I find even harder to live with (literally) is why we outlaw every other military style weapon from our streets BUT assault weapons. Maybe we're taking the wrong approach. When the insurance industry was decimated with auto liabilities claims they lobbied to lower speed limits, implement seat belt laws, crack down on drunk drivers, and required vehicles be inspected for safe operation on our roads. It defies logic that it's easier to install a traffic light at an intersection than it is restrict assault weapons.
Banning a weapon was not going to rid Ramos of his mental issues, of his violent tendencies that everyone knew he had, the fact that his parents didn't raise him right, the fact that he shared a bank acct with his granny (who turned a blind eye) which he used to buy the weapon, the fact that the police didn't get him as he climbed the fence, the fact that the school door was unlocked, the fact that the class door was unlocked, that he was left alone for over an hour with unarmed kids&adults, and the fact that Leo's were told to stand down bc it was "a barricaded subject," and who chose to follow those orders which included family members of those inside those 2 classrooms.
Banning said weapon wasn't going to make Ramos turn around once he saw the gun free zone paper at the door nor is it going to make criminals follow laws like not smuggling them in from across the border. Now you're advocating for the govt to be the only one possessing them...the same one who stood down and who reports showed had contact with Ramos on social media.
Banning them is only a utopia in your mind when the real problem is elsewhere.
It happened in the United States.
Let me see if I got this right. You say they were blown back by gunfire through a door they thought thereafter was locked
exactly
Abbott must be held accountable for lying to the people, especially the parents?
Thank you Katie Couric for interviewing this reporter. I think it's very important to view the Uvalde (Texas) police response. Please continue to support the ethics and truth of this Texas tragedy. Amen. Thank you.
thank you for this discussion and ‘reveal’. I wasn’t really sure how I was feeling about this video coming out, but, certainly feel that unless everyone sees the carnage happening over and over again in America, we will forget. Such as we’ve done with Ukraine.
Release the video unedited -- and if they can obtain permission from families, those that are willing, release the photos of their children's bodies like Emmet Till's mother did so folks could know what was done to his body. We should all have to witness what these weapons do to bodies. Congress and Governors and state legislators should ALL be forced to watch it all.
Emmet's mom was heroic in her response to his murder and insisting on an open coffin with a front page picture so "they could see what they did." Such a painful chapter in our history.
I told my family about that , it’s going to hurt us , but shows to them and the rest of us to see if we USA finally ending this nonsense weapons to everyone!, so disgusting and embarrassing to the whole world!,! 💔😢
Those rifles obviously due massive damage to the body. These kids were shot up close. Families had to provide dna so that kids could be identified.
True. Time for elected officials to view the hell they've visited on the citizens of this country.
A country that sacrifices children for the convenient purchase of firearms is full of people who deserve to have an unprotected view of the horrifying price.
Call down Nancy. Nobody here is "sacrificing children for the convenient purchase of firearms." You're overlooking the fact that, if buying guns was INCONVENIENT, this clown would still have gotten one.
@@PanhandleFrank You’re coming at the wrong person with that nonsense. Move on before you get embarrassed.
@@Calmchoasa Panhandle Frank, I agree that if someone wants to kill people, they will find a way. However, it's our responsibility, as voters (and humans), to make getting a gun as difficult as possible. If there weren't assault weapons to purchase, this would delay, or stop these horrific mass shootings. As a country, we have let ourselves down, these families, and many others need us to unite, vote, and ban assault weapons.
Love your discussions! Thanks!
It sounds more like they were waiting to inspect a fire suppression system than saving children.
Cops didn't do themselves any good on this by arrested parents and other cops held back
Thank you for the interview Katie, I saw the video yesterday, transparency is also about the democracy of the USA when the families are not backed by all sets of institutions from the 3 sets of government to the media to the police at the end of the day, what is lost is those children are also future voters of the US and the question becomes, what kind of legacy do you want to leave behind for the future children who were not killed that day as well. The Children of Uvalde will decide their own fate Honor and dignity doesn't come in the hands of sanitizer.. It's in the hands of lives they help.
Tony, I saw the video and I thought the cops and State troopers all those officers, took too long to take show action of attack on the shooter . This video shows what really happen and what we all learned from some officers, that were afraid to get shot by the shooter. That only one officer had courage and bravery to shot the shooter. I feel for some parents being upset, but many questions and answers were conflicting to what some officer said. It just goes to show that all for the most part of those officers, state Troopers should be fired, they have no business being an officer at all. It takes guts and courage to really step up and kill a shooter. The sheriff , that wiped his hands with the sanitizer should be fired, I could tell his was so scared. My deepest condolences to all families that lost a child , from the bottom of my heart, we all in America feel your hurt. You all deserve the truth and this video shows all those officers actions. Though it hurt cause the truth should not be denied to those families and all around the U.S.A. Stop the sell of AR -5 rifles. We do not need violence and killings of innocent children, men, women, of all ages. Stop!
America is the continent. This is the United States.
I am so glad they decided to release that video...otherwise it may have been part of the cover up and not be seen at all. It took over a month to show the actual cowardice of those cops!
I watched it, I wouldn't of watched it if the kids screaming was still in there. With that said, I think the full video with all audio still in, be sent to lawmakers, all lawmakers. Even sent to police departments. They all need to be made to watch, with cell phone turned off.
I won’t watch the video, but I do believe that people need to know what the gunfire sounds like. The term “the shots rang out” or “it sounded like fireworks” doesn’t describe the sound. That is something people should know so they can be alerted sooner. Obviously, in a classroom setting this would be easy to detect, but with outside shooting events it would be beneficial.
They would have to try to separate the gunshots from the screams. Also the loved ones don't need to hear those shots and think "was that the shot that killed my son or my daughter?". Their memories are difficult enough to deal with.
"Pretend participate" and "cover up" are what police do best in their jobs. 👎👎 We waste too much money on provide police trainings and gears. But police are not doing their jobs right when needed. 👎👎
THANK YOU!!!!
The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."
In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others - even when a threat is apparent.
So if that was your child you'd be OK with officers just standing around for an hour fist pumping and sanitizing their hands as ur child lays dying!!
And again, SCOTUS proves they are neither the best nor the brightest.
@@pacotaco5526 i nvr said that. I just stated the law. leo has no duty to protect anyone.
@@pacotaco5526 you seem to be missing the point.
@345clst which interpretation are you willing to die for? You are entitled to do so, but my observation is the republican interpretation is not based in fact or reality. Therefore we are l subjected to erroneous reading.
none of the established protocols for dealing with an active shooter were followed correctly by this circus.
According the 2022 Dallas, TX IACP (International Association of Chiefs of Police), "In active shooter situations where ongoing deadly force is reasonably likely to be employed by a suspect and delay in taking law enforcement action could result in injury or death, immediate action by officers at the scene is necessary when such actions are deemed reasonable to prevent further injuries or loss of life." There are more detailed & specific actions outlined therein. YT won't allow the direct link be posted, but it is publicly available, downloadable, & easy to find.
Cause the cops were afraid of the AR15 long gun fire power.
@@jamesbumbry8358 the cops were just plain afraid. The "long power" makes no difference in CQB.
i think it is your job to report to the public exactly as you did..... i think the babies screaming should have been left in, not to hurt the parents but to add to the public not only is this what the policemen are seeing but they heard these babies too....thank you for the reporting
Unbelievable
Wow. Sick interview
I wonder how fast would they have gone in if THEIR children were in the school,disgraceful and criminal ,they have blood on their hands and should resign because we all know that nothing happens to police in your country no matter what the crime or for not doing their duty putting lives at risk.
The husband of one of the teachers and the father of one of the kids responded to the call. They were both Leo's and were on the footage released
Thank you for releasing the TRUTH!
The truth had to come out at some point.
Thank you Tony!!!!
Now, regarding the "lack of respect towards the parents," what's the big deal about who seeing the video first? No dead bodies are shown, the screams are not singled out. We need to hear the screams especially to measure the inhumanity/callousness shown by those hiding themselves in the hallway...Releasing the video to the general public sheds light into the cover up and thus we can take action to ensure public resource is used correctly and not corruptly, and what happened will not happen again. It concerns public safety ie the "common good," and I wish the parents could have seen through their personal grief and aimed their anger more fruitfully.
I really don’t want to set off a firestorm, but it’s time to begin to move on this issue, and not with tepid legislation in Washington. Just like it costs a lot to own a car, which in most states is essential to daily life, it should cost a lot to own firearms, which are not essential to daily life but do much more damage and caused 45,222 deaths in 2020, as opposed to auto accidents, which caused 42,915 deaths in 2021. 6% more deaths than auto accidents will not be solved with thoughts and prayers.
Annual re-registration and re-licensure of each firearm with fees for each, for every weapon an individual owns. Severe financial penalties, and possibly jail time, for every illegally owned weapon. I’ve heard people suggest insurance on each firearm as well, which I agree with. If the breadwinner of your family is senselessly murdered, the family should have something to fall back on.
That only takes care of legal weapons. Don’t forget black market weapons
Video with sound, says much more than words!
Every single time a new officer with higher rank walked in, they started over with discussions 🙄 None of them followed active shooter protocol. Retreated too far. Didn’t respond to subsequent gunfire. Including the ones across the street when the shooter was in the parking lot. And after, what the video doesn’t show is that they moved the injured without EMT assistance when there was no active danger. That’s also against protocol. They used more force on parents than they did on the perpetrator. Also, they aren’t supposed to wait for orders during an active shooter situation. Even if there are casualties, they would not have been reprimanded for taking down a shooter and rendering aid to victims in a timely manner.
Back in early June, the former Uvalde County Sheriff was quoted in the local newspaper as saying there was a lack of leadership and true grit.
I applaud the news agency for releasing the videos. It needed to be done, to incite transparency.
Thank you so much Sr for showing the video , please send the video from the classroom to the governor and all the politicians !!, thanks to them we are a mess in this country!!, shame, shame,shame... RIP beautiful souls 🙏💕🙏
The newly released, full Uvalde hallway-camera footage with sound indicates that the shooter fired at least 60 rounds before the police entered the school hallway (shooting most of the victims). Thus, the worst police failure was that a officer had the gunman in his sights as he walked toward the side door into the school (after shooting at officers), and did not shoot this murder. Negligent homicide !!!
What is the date - year-month-day of the Hillcrest Funeral Home CCTV Time Stamp?
What is the date - year-month-day of the Robb Elementary School CCTV Time Stamp?
No, no and no! The audio - gunshots and screams and gum chewing and farting - are part of the story. Actually HALF of the story. Regarding the LE promised Sunday showing, they probably will show the whole thing minus the first 76 minutes and a half of the hallway segment.
Here is my other comment. I have wondered for years why so many law enforcement officers rush to the scene. Why local do police and sheriffs, state, Boarder Patrol and maybe ATF agents have to gather. I have come to believe that it is a break for the officers. Many of them do fist bump, stand around and chat and seem to do nothing related to the crime, accident or tragedy. Maybe if there were not so many of them a competent person could have taken charge.
Had border patrol agent that borrowed a gun for someone try to get in was stopped by a prop open door by a teacher.this was Texas everyone is armed. One parent got in and got her kids out
I’m so sickened, first at the tortuous deaths, and victims maybe feeling that no one is going to save them, but this secondary issue is so very hurtful to the few survivors and families of the Victims. What horror.
A million thanks to Tony P for bringing this video to general viewing. This reporter - along with his newspaper and KVUE - deserves gratitude from the rest of us who are still living and breathing. Kudos to your personal courage and professional integrity, we need someone to stand up to corrupted authorities and bring truth/facts to light, that's your job and you are doing it admirably!
Every citizen of Uvalde and Texas needs to rwmind every officer in that town what cowards they are, all day everyday until they have to leave town in disgrace.
The county didn’t want footage released because they are in the video 🤷♀️
I have a revolver. Six in the wheel. 357 Magnum. I'm going in. Follow me! Save The Children.
You bad ass is that what you want to hear? Unfortunately more than 14,000 people will die of gun violence this year and no good guy with your stupid 357 is going to help
yes indeed...that's what SHOULD have happened.
Add this to their "training":
Whe you show up during an active shooting incident at an elementary school,
and you are hesistate or are too scared to follow thru on your training and save lives,
hand your weapons over to the parents...
You know their training is really a tailgate party…. Every on scene police officer should be identified and their photos displayed on the front pages of major newspapers, the world must see what the word cowardice signifies….they must be revealed and justice for the victims families must benefit from their incompetence….. can’t believe you have a battalion of armed police officers and they all were afraid to stop the threat… why?
My emotions are all over the place! Although I was devastated to hear about the loss of lives lost, in a school where our kids and teachers should feel safe. I was even more devastated after seeing the events on social media!
There are several different venues that say
some loved one's were and some were not able to be contacted before the video was aired without a heads up. Although saddened, I feel that seeing the video helped to understand the casual demeanor and inconsistency of the officers and the lack of command they have. I was also saddened but expected that with our Governor and other entities that praise the
efforts and acknowledgments that they and all sectors of the enforcement teams and immediate knowledge of the full video, if he saw it. I don't know. If it they had not leaked this! The whole situation could have been covered up with a version to spin this in the police's favor temporary! Because I believe that the truth does prevail, and what's done in the dark comes to the light but the torment of As a parent of five, all grown now I would feel like something is off; and want more answers. That good old boy; and sticking together with officer's and statesmen are over. We can't grow as a nation, as a people of many colors and beliefs if our government, under God, cannot be trusted
The key, locked door or not, is irrelevant. I've never encountered a door where I couldn't hear a key inserted in the lock and turned. Which officer would volunteer to unlock the door?
Just brakes my heart
Brakes? Breaks?
Love ❤ people like you Tony!.
What upsets me is that they didn't let the SWAT team in.
What reason did they give for not letting SWAT in? these are cowards who not only did nothing but prevented anyone from helping almost like they wanted this to happen
@@cuppasilverbullets I am not aware of their reasoning.
Having to wait for SWAT went out the window since Columbine. None of the established protocols for dealing with an active shooter were followed correctly by this circus.
According the 2022 Dallas, TX IACP (International Association of Chiefs of Police), "In active shooter situations where ongoing deadly force is reasonably likely to be employed by a suspect and delay in taking law enforcement action could result in injury or death, immediate action by officers at the scene is necessary when such actions are deemed reasonable to prevent further injuries or loss of life." There are more detailed & specific actions outlined therein. YT won't allow the direct link to be posted, but it is publicly available, downloadable, & easy to find.
Fired for dereliction of duty all the officers in the hallway accept the two who went in!
I think leaving the gunshots in disputes all the lies saying that the shooting had stopped. I appreciate the transparency.
Transparency is important!
Hopefully the man who serve with the law enforcement and their kids were victims they reconsider a new carrier because after this disgraceful coward act they are not worth supporting by any means.
How sad we live in a world that if you don't see it for yourself , you can't believe what anyone tells you .
Why is the focus on the law enforcement response versus how the shooter obtained the weapons and what more can be done to recognize mental health issues early on and get help for those that need it?
There does seem to be more focus on mental health, which is helpful. Focusing on mental health issues, from social media postings, to parents, to friends, "See something, Say something", can help prevent suicides too, which are also out of control. Your stronger point, is "how" weapon is obtained.
WHY is it okay for AR's to even be an option for purchase? That is where, I believe, we can make a difference.
Chain of Command...someone on the scene knows after only 5 minutes of this episode that they are the one who must take charge.
I'm so glad that you did make the decision to get this video out before they can cover up and take out stuff but they're still with stuff missing where's the police chief when he went to go save his wife and kids and where's the video of misco mass and when the police agencies went to go help the police chief get his family and the other kids out that weren't near the gun fire I'm glad you released this so we can see and know what they blocked out today and some of this videos I'm glad that you showed the gunfire and everything cuz this is something everybody needs to see thank you very much
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Were there No windows in the classroom so police could shoot into the classroom from outside?
That's what I've been saying
Most Texas schools built after Columbine, believe it or not, have no, or very narrow, interior windows. Instead, they have large-paned double doors, or large windows opening onto a hallway or a "pod". This was done so that teachers could be "observed" for evaluations, so as to make sure that they are teaching to the all important standardized tests (administrators say that it is so as to not to disturb the instruction). There are locks on these wide-windowed doors, but they are not always monitored for locking so as to let students come and go for restroom breaks. Also, it would not be difficult for the door handles/locks to be breached through broken windows. Teachers and substitutes are told to cover these with paper or poster board after a signal, warning by phone or intercom, or flashing strobe lights inside the classroom. These classrooms have virtually nowhere for students to hide--students are in plain sight, even under desks--and the outer and connecting walls are quite thin. Construction of this type is much cheaper for the districts who'd rather spend money on salaries of administrators and incompetent district police forces. This appears to have been an older school; it clearly shows children climbing out of windows at the rear of the school, possibly through classrooms that had windows. It also shows officers outside those windows.
Watch the footage those cops were shaking they weren’t going in there or getting close.
Have you thought putting a video together of the timeline of the 911 call and show the video reference to the same timeline as the 911 calls were made so that we could see what was actually going on outside at 911 calls kept on coming in I know that would be very detailed and graphic but in order to get a response that is going to make changes is give it it's real as possible of course let it be known to the families that were that are extremely affected by this I am not a family member directly but I cry every time I see those kids and hear who they were and I believe that the raw truth eventually and as soon as possible the better should come out people should be held accountable for this and also has anybody looked at the geographic location of this city or town would you buy the and the way they explain the first minutes is that this gentleman that was supposed to be in charge wanted everybody there has anybody looked into the possibilities that this could have been planned by some organization that was trying to smuggle something in and wanted posters to be unattended like for example border patrol specifically and how come there wasn't another response team closer by that was supposed to be trained to this because the way I look at it it is a key town for major highways
I definitely stopped the video to give consideration of the information that was coming in at the same time, such as 911 calls. And noted that even the ALERRT Report didn't seem to pick up that in the video, around 12:17 if I recall properly, just before the person with the body cam reenters the school, you hear a conversation about vicitims and referencing there may be 9.
Please look up EMDR and EFT for trauma relief.
Unfortunately, any of it might've re-traumatized the families. (see bravery of Emmett Till's Mother) The question is, how much more support do the families have now, compared to what they might not have gotten or be getting, because of the twisted lies that would be worse, considering how they were lied to in the 1st place? This is the problem in this country now...the people believe lies, because that's what they are told. If they (anyone) wants to lie to themselves after viewing it with their own eyes...see Jan 6. Thank you Tony for standing strong & releasing The Truth! Now, everyone can judge for themselves...see the truth or continue to believe lies feed to you.