140 Interesting Behind The Scenes Star Trek Facts
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I've been watching Star Trek shows since 1966. Lower Decks is a joy and will be greatly missed. Thanks to the writers and performers for that joy.
Same, I grew with Star Trek and loved lower decks.
There's a moment in a season 2 episode of tng that definitely inspired the series.
There's a petition to keep lower decks.
All of the references and hidden gems in that cartoon series!!! 😂 I used Lower Decks as a means of explaining star trek lore to my youngest❤
9:21 - I don't believe Benedict Cumberbatch was Khan. Khan Noonien Singh was born in Northern India, whereas the whiter than snow Cumberbatch was obviously.... not. But hear me out; My head canon is, Khan informed his fallowers, 'whomever was woken up first to pretend to be Khan, to protect Khan'. Well, Cumberbatch was the one who was woken up first, so he became Khan, while the real Khan was still in asleep stasis. And everything he did in the movie was to protect Khan and his fellow followers. Now if you go into the movie thinking this, the movie makes a heck of a lot more sense.
What if I told you seven of nine has a major role to play in the Temporal cold war, she should meet t'pol
1:24:30 Airplane 2
'Johnathan Frakes asserts his dominance over almost every chair he encounters in Star Trek" Always cracks me up.
but no for real you guys, stop playing as federation from star trek online and go play Romulan republic, Empress Sella is alive and really evil
She will show up no matter who you play as. But yes as a romulan it's better. Sadly it's not canon
@@chriswilder9719 i will make it legal (cannon)
STO is a boring grind of a game no matter as whom you play, and the right answer is Klingon as everyone know, qua'pla!
I have one of each character. That's why I love STO the best. I'm not restricted to one or two characters.
Selah.
The theme song lyrics are not a "Secret that Took Years to Discover;" they were published in 1968 in "The Making of Star Trek," by Stephen Whitfield -- while the series was still in production.
And after reading them, I feel like people can sit down and shut up about Enterprise's theme.
@@Bolton115 or not?
If you didn’t get the Enterprise theme, you aren’t thinking very deeply.
The point was that Enterprise was closer to our time, culturally if not chronologically, and they chose a theme that reflected that.
Enterprise season 3 not ending with Archer saying "oh boy" is a worse decision than the series finale
19:50 - Incorrect. Nichols had appeared on documentaries all the way back in the 1990's telling the MLK story. I forget if it was the "Star Trek Memories" or the 25th Anniversary Special, but it was definitely one of those VHS releases (if not both). LONG before 2011
Half this video is incorrect.
@@andrewpyrah I sorta gave up a few minutes after this comment, so I didn't see all the other things they got wrong lol
Nichols told this story at every convention she attended as a guest, starting from the early 80's (at least that's when I began to hear her tell it).
@@Colleen1701 Yeah, its easily one of her most well-known stories. To even suggest that she didn't reveal this until any time after 2000 shows a clear lack of any semblance of proper research.
2:30:14 "Future BBQ enthusiast, René Picard....." TAKE AN LATINUM UP GOOD SIR! You had me spitting bloodwine!
Too soon...
by a few hundred years
I don't know if this has been spotted before but here goes just in case. In an episode of next generation Picard demonstrates to Moriarty what happens if he leaves the holladec by throwing a book out of the entrance. But in Farpoint Wesly Crusher comes out of the holladec soaking wet after falling in the made up stream but as he comes out into the hall he is still wet. Should he not be dry?
Should be dry
Great point.
Some things in the holodeck are replicated, like food, drinks etc.
The water may have been too.
Yeah, this has been spotted before. As has the episode where the kids playing in the snow through a snowball out of the holodeck.
The rules were inconsistent in the beginning.
Noticed that early, seems few (except some) saw it. It happens in other episodes.
Oh dear, Marcus needs his ST badge removed - Star Trek IV - the undiscovered country? 51.08 in. Naughty 🤣
I never liked the Borg Queen. The noncentralized hive mind is scarier.
The discovery Klingons were awful in the first season I’m glad they started trending towards the makeup we all know.
The makeup and alien design weren’t bad…. Just not good for Klingons. If they were a new alien species then it would’ve been fine. Call them a Hur’q or other invasion force, and now it works. We don’t know when those aliens went extinct. But the producers wanted to piggyback on more recognizable aliens for marketing. Now it doesn’t work.
Honestly they looked like space orcs Season 1... Let's be honest though. Discovery was just "Star Trek Mary Sue"
Lower decks ssn5 for the loss. 8-(
I still don’t know why people think Enterprise’s theme is so bad. I’ve asked dozens of people what it is and their explanations have either been just thinly veiled complaints or nonsensical criticisms. Would someone please just give me a reason other than “You don’t like it”?
I like it, but i think its the singing. All others are instrumental thats only thing i can think off
@@Fuzz32 All of the other shows had inspirational instrumental music that tended to get faster at the end. Or ended with a mass of chords tending up. All very dramatic. I have a feeling that if Enterprise's theme had been more dramatic, they might have gotten another season. Or at least a finale that wasn't a cheat. The fans were cheated as much as the cast was. You blew it.
@@franblaye9639 are you okay? You honestly believe that the success or rather failure of that show was due to its theme song? Also keep in mind that Picard had an instrumental theme as well, yet it had fewer seasons than Enterprise. Everything that you said was exactly what I was complaining about. You don’t like it so you say you don’t like it but in a way that doesn’t sound like you’re saying it. And on top that what good would another season have done? What other stories could have been told? The whole series was about the period between Cochran discovering Warp travel and the founding of the Federation. And those stories had been told and wrapped up. Plus, how exactly did I blow it? I didn’t work on this show, nor did I decide on what the theme song would be. In fact, I was in middle school when the show aired. So explain that to me.
I have no problem with people not liking the song or the show for that matter. The problem comes when people decide that EVERYONE should dislike it and call it irrefutably terrible. Then, they make up multiple reasons why it is bad, none of which follow any actual logic other than the fact that they hate it. If you don’t like it say so and be honest, don’t try to make up reasons because you can’t just say “I don’t like it.”
If you had said something like “It sounds like the singer is off key” then I would have said “Okay, yeah that’s pretty bad.” And that would have been much better than “This song prevented them from getting another season.” Which sounds more like a conspiracy theory.
The theme of the show seemed to be about aspiration and looking beyond ourselves, the federation humbling themselves, I think the intro tune fit that theme perfectly.
This isn’t the enterprise we are used to, it’s early days, and the only way is forward, the theme tune understood the assignment.
It may be the black sheep of the franchise but that isn’t inherently a bad thing, Trekkies are notorious for hating change.
@@toastofcinder3547 that’s a lot of fandoms.
At 11:09, Brennan isn't Spock's half sibling; She"s adopted.
She’s*
Michael Burnham. 🙂
At 11:09, he's not talking Trek any longer anyway, so who cares.
those salamander creatures had children. children which potentially couldve been reverted back into human form JUST LIKE they did with Parisway.
Or we simply leave them on that alien planet so they can die?
There's a joke about British tv. It goes something like this. They only have 20 actors 12 sets and 8 props.
Star trek should have something similar.
Gene also wanted Troi to have like 6 boobs or something... so Majel saying Gene wouldn't approve is not a great admonition. Gene also made the first Season of TNG the worst by wrongly stating that there would be no arguements between these boring bot-like people in the future... killing any drama for the series...
You can't really grumble about Trek reusing shots when this whole episode of TrekCulture is constructed of reused material.
Your comment doesn't make any sense lol
Anyone who watches over 2 hours of behind the scenes Star Trek info has already seen Star Trek 2 and 3 TOS. I don't think spoilers r a thing in decades old movies videos
9:17 - I feel like I'm one of only a handful of people who really liked Into Darkness. I think it's because I didn't compare one film to another and watched it as a self-standing universe. Opinions are valid, and I have mine -shrug-
I liked it too. But that's at least partially because I'll watch anything with Cumberbatch in it. And like you, I don't compare.
Next time leave out your political opinions please, almost ruined the video for me.
In re losing Majel Barrett's Number One -- the narrative that the network would not accept a female first officer was created by Roddenberry, but wasn't really the case. From several good books about the period, it's been revealed that the problem really was that Gene's relationship with Majel was an open secret throughout the studios and networks, and NBC found it highly inappropriate for the producer to "flaunt his mistress." It was more that the network brass had a personal problem with Gene, not so much that they had a resistance to showing strong female characters.
Step sister, not "half sister".
I have to agree with your early comments about T'Pol not getting much respect as a character, being physically emphasized and having a rough story line through the series. I have commented before how I feel about another character, Seven of Nine, who I really liked. She was an excellent idea, but was ultimately portrayed as a sexually distracting character with ever inconsistent qualities. So sometimes she's super strong, sometimes she's almost as weak as a human. They made this mistake with both vulcans and the favorite borg.
You cover too wide a range of mistakes for me to fully wrap my head around, but I have my own list that complements or agrees with you. In my estimation of the Star Trek franchise, Nemesis (death of Data), Picard, the dark dimension hopping series I refuse to think about so effectively that I forgot its name (just remembered, Discovery), and the new reboot movies were all complete failures that should be stricken from the official timeline. For all of the actors skill and their great potential, these are the items that I saw or saw the first season and was so disturbed at where the writers were going that I lost all interest and either wanted to never see them again or never see the end of a given series. The sad thing is the creators already got what they wanted, money and attention, and have no incentive to care how badly they ruined the affected community of interest.
Since I love Star Trek in general, I can at least continue watching the shows they didn't condemn to oblivion. The original movies up to Insurrection, original Star Trek, sort of, Strange New Worlds, Enterprise, Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space Nine, maybe some of the animated series. I'm not sure what they are doing with Starfleet Academy, so no comment. There is plenty of content worth commending, despite the timeline ending failures.
@11:20
Technically, Michael is Spock's step-sister.
If she was his half-sister they'd share DNA from his mother OR father.
She's his foster sister, no blood relationship.
Fun fact: those red tube thingies also show up in the movie The Last Starfighter (and I'm sure others, but that's where I know them). They are in Star League High Command, and when we first meet Grig, he is messing with one as if it's doing... something.
"And Trekies probably nitpick their favorite franchise far more than any other fans." *cough* Comic book fans... Though it's just kind of a nerd thing to do in general. We like pointing out the bad things while still enjoying it... mostly. That and getting angry at anything new, then begrudgingly accepting it, and eventually saying it wasn't so bad or even really good when something else new comes out to complain about.
12 mins in, and I had completely forgotten I was watching a "140 Things" list. Checked the time bar, 2 hrs 35 mins. Gonna have to pick this up later.
Nichelle Nichols actually tells the MLK story in the 25th anniversary special from 1991.
And at every convention or interview she's ever done.
okay, good, I'm not the only one who noticed this
I wonder if it's true
Edit: I'd like it to be so don't get me wrong but I've seen enough examples of people taking credit that isn't the case
@@daviddiggens8841 which part? If it actually happened, or if the story had been told as early as 1991?
The exploding Bird of Prey was almost as overused as the Klingon getting sucked into space... lol
The biggest mistake was every word that's ever been spoken in Discovery
No... The biggest mistake was to green light that Mary Sue Deviantart fanfic
"dis my OC. Pls no steal"
Discovery made me throw up. I tried, but they went out of the way to make it suck.
I won’t even give it the time of day. I just can’t. Strange new worlds on the other hand was amazing!
oh f**k that was a long episode.
Oh man! Into Darkness is one of my favourites. Maybe it's me. I also like Nemesis.😅
Nemesis was far more of a Wrath of Khan ripoff than Into Darkness was anyway. Hell, 2009 was closer to Wrath of Khan than Into Darkness was. If anything, Into Darkness was a film remake of Space Seed.
It was my ex-gf's favourite Trek film.
I rank it pretty level with Wrath Of Khan.
Play both most definitely blow the motion picture out of the f****** water
27:27
As far as Genevieve Bujold opting out of portraying Janeway, I personally think that it was for the better because her portrayal of Captain Janeway kinda put Janeway in a bad light, making her seeming to be rather cold and stand-offish
James Doohan had a missing finger and I never noticed!?
Who is Hurley?
SO glad the second number seven didn’t happen.
I wouldn't have minded Faith of the Heart if it had been an orchestra version of the song, it actually sounds reminiscent of a Star Trek theme when it's an orchestra version without sung lyrics, they missed an opportunity to use the song and still have it fit a Star Trek series by using the original version of the song.
Nothing like looking at Marcus! Glad to see him in more than just a voice-over!
When it comes to reused footage, TNG is the worst offender. In dozens of episodes, the shot of the Enterprise sliding in from the bottom left to give a view of the ship from behind, is used and reused. The same ship movement, and worse, the same star pattern; the four star (box) constellation in the centre is the dead giveaway.
Every time is seen Kristy Ally back then my teenager mind instantly went numb!!! ,,,,,,,,,,numd,numb,numb,numb,numb…. Lmao
Every time I seen Jerry Ryan back then my teenager mind went extra numb,,,,,,numb,numb,numb,numb,numb,numb, ahhhhh,,,,, damn,,,, lmao
So Scotty and Zack (from Power Rangers) have alot in common.
As I didn't notice both were missing a digit.
One of the best things to come out of Star Trek was the 70s/80s British scifi series Blakes 7. Series creator Terry Nation HATED Star Trek, and crafted his show as a partial parody, skewering Roddenberry's optimism with a HUGE dose of British cynicism. The show portrayed the Federation as a totalitarian dystopia whose (heavily drugged) citizens mostly think they are living in a free paradise, but with a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction and resistance. The federation uniforms have a version of the Star Fleet delta on them (turned on its side) which also became the show's original logo, and Liberator, the heroes' ship, was basically a backwards, upside-down Enterprise with an extra nacelle. If Trek was 'Wagon Train', Blakes 7 was 'The Dirty Dozen' with a side order of 'Robin Hood'.
Oh, and the heroes mostly never win. The show ran for 4 seasons (of variable quality) before ending with the bleakest finale ever (spoiler: all the good guys die, and the series' main villain not only gets off scot-free, but isn't even in the episode - the heroes are TPK'd by a mid-level boss).
Can't believe you'd leave out Robert Duncan McNeill from the director's list, I thought he'd be #2 under Frakes! 52 directing credits on IMDB, including 4 episodes of Voyager and 4 of Enterprise.
Nichelle Nichols. Im just gonna call bullshit on her MLK story. I would bet you anything that’s a load of absolute rubbish and King probably never heard of Star Trek. It just sounds like something some pretentious actress would make up otherwise she would’ve told that story much earlier on when she was less irrelevant. I don’t buy it.
I like star citizen. I play it. I onyl bought 1 ship that was mandatory to play the game ($40 total). I think the game is pretty cool and interesting. Being able to fly around a solar system, go basically anywhere, and land on a planet or a moon is awesome. But paying 350 bucks for a ship is crazy
As always thank you Marcus and friends so very much for the videos.
(I hope Ellie is feeling better.)
If Some Fans Take These Minor Mistakes So Serious That You Need To Go To The EXTREME To Make This A Huge Stink , You Need To Go See A Counselor or Even Go On Meds For OCD . The Movies and TV Series Are For Entertainment Purpose Not To Prove How Anal Some Fans Can Be . Stop Making The Fans Who Watch and / or Go To The Conventions For Entertainment Purpose Look Like Freaks.
Ok maybe I really am blind but I’ve noticed none of this stuff 🤣 🤣 🤣 even to the point that I didn’t notice even when y’all pointed it out until I watched the slo-mo replay 🤣 🤣 🤣 never noticed the black cardboard, the tears, the tape, all the others 🤣. I will notice how the “Sword of Kaless” looks different each time it’s shown between shows. It’s in DS9 but also want to say it’s found in Voyager if I’m remembering right, anyway, it’s two totally different swords. Not even a little different, completely different. But ya this other stuff I never noticed
. I don't get how Kirstie Alley thought she could demand more money for ST3. ST2 was her film debut. She was nobody before that.
Then there's the actor who played Joaquin in ST2 going uncredited over a money dispute. I get the impression there was some type of issue behind the scenes with Paramount lowballing everybody and it's less about the actors demanding unreasonable salaries as it is with them being offered adequate salaries.
Meh. I wish y’all wouldn’t make these hours-long videos. There are certainly some I’d love to see a little longer than 15 minutes. But 100+ facts about BLAH? Nope.
The warp 10 barrier rule was broken in TOS. Season 2 Episode 3, "The Changeling". The robot thing "Nomad" made engineering changes that pushed the speed to a stated Warp 11 before Kirk got it to stop.
In Skin of Evil, when Riker is pulled into the goop, you see the carriage where Riker lies upon.
First time i've seen that was 20seconds ago, watching this video. (1h28m28s)
How about how Worf hasn't won a game of poker since "The Emissary?" Sounds like a Section 31 operation. What's up with Data and Geordi ridiculing Worf after loosing after each time?
I was at my friend’s house and we watched this episode of TNG where Data and Tosha got busy. My friend’s older sister was watching it with us and said to herself I ( I wonder if Data has full settings with those fully functional anatomical parts ) . I looked straight into her eyes and said sure he’s a grower not a shower… I’ve never seen anyone turn that red from blushing. She got up and went to the kitchen to make cookies.
Discovery is met to be the past not the future. Klingons in the next generation are evolved. The Klingons in Discovery, are not yet fully evolved. This is before Captain Kirk.
Could we, please, just pretend DISCO never happened? You may think it's good sci-fi, but it's terrible Star Trek.
Good thing about AI. Reusing shots will become a thing of the past. As it joins to CGI. New shots will be able to be created by simple commands to the computer. Lowering cost to next to nothing. Eventually no human will be needed to create compelling shows.
I know it will be controversial but the network was right to ask for changes to the original pilot. Majel Barrett did not play a convincing Number One. She looked tariffed like she didn’t know what to do. She wasn’t a strong female leader… she did come into her own as Lawxana Troi.
"I've got faith" is my favourite star trek opening. Fight me.
Enterprise is the best Star Trek followed by Voyager
Nah I'd feel bad fighting a deaf person. Enterprise itself was great though.
It was OK.. then they ompa-ompa'd it...
With that opinion I hope your pantry is found by a pregnant tribble
It had no chance given the competition. But the song itself grew on me after time, and i even found myself singing it from time to time. That being said, there is no way it even holds up to any of the beautiful orchestra scores that came before it. No contest. It's the worst out of all of them.
I would have loved to have seen a episode of voyager , where they were all in fair haven on the hollodeck and the ship was in combat, power loss on the ship leaves it adrift but hte hollodeck still active, the crew have to use technology from 20th century to hack in to the outside shit to save it and get it though combat , using only laptops and mice computers sat in a french cafe while desperately trying to ignore the events unfolding around them like a drunk trying to interupt them a bar brawl and other eventualitys . like waitresses spilling drinks , and on laptop going poof cause everyone assumed it was water proof.
not only coming to grips with trying to use an IPHONE and windows operating systems ,
"Torres get me engine controll
Not a swear word but Data's "There was a young woman from Venus, who's body was shaped like a ..... DATA!!!" .
Weren't the aliens who infiltrated the Federation in the TNG 'Conspiracy' arc originally supposed to be the Borg?
Watching this with a single headphone in as I rock my infant daughter to sleep, and 2:30:16 made me laugh so hard I'll be here for another 2 hours... Thanks, Trek Culture 😅
Majel Barrett aka NUMBER ONE, was fired, because she only got the part, due to being Rodenberry's gf. She had no real experience, and that was not cool with the execs.
The last section. wow! I knew Star Trek was truly dead when I heard the first f-bomb dropped. Haven't watched any new material since then and don't plan to. Star Trek has become Star Trash.
'Into Darkness feels like it was written by committee...' Welcome to the world of JJ Abrams movies. They all do, even if occasionally they are decent movies, they all have that sterile feel where the plot is filler between buzzwords and references.
The last episode of Enterprise should have been near the top or even number one on the list of mistakes. Placing the entire show as a program running on the hollodeck on Enterprise Generations. The crew interaction with Riker also tainted the last scene of Archer hugging T'pal. And the writers were so lazy that they tossed away the perfect ending of Archer's speach to open the Federation. Even placing his speach to the smaller group from earlier in the episode to the end of the last episode would have been preferable to a snide remark that the superior TNG counselor had memorized it years ago. Slap upon slap.
I never notice the background stuff unless I see it directly. But like the lady in Data’s dream sequence or the person off to the side in the clip with Tuvok the wire on Shatner, didn’t see any of em.
The Enterprise song is so gay it's almost as gay as Star Trek discovery not quite but it's up there it's probably at least 60% as gay as that and considering the time it came out that was way too fucking gay
I hated the character Tess. The character design, the stupid 6 year old and adult in sexual relationship was weird af, I didn't like her delivery or mannerisms. The Ocampa was a terrible alien design. So was neelix. Despite that I loved the show as a teen.
When you got to Paul and Hoshi Sato and Commander Tucker all in that room in their underwear the only way it could have been better is before it had that old school porn music and like seven of nine would have come in there Commander Tucker say he's here to check the pipes or whatever
I really like this Deep Dive into BTS Trek facts.
The Timewar would have been much more interesting to see in enterprise then what we actually got :D
Discovery itself is the biggest error in Star trek history. Badly ritten, terrible characters like cryham and terrible storyline in the seasons 3 onward.
"lets toss that thingy in a black hole to stop nyone from getting it" meanwhile thingy can teleport you anywhere in time and space, and everyone already has timetravel and warp drive. as-if a black hole would stop anyone
If they had accepted The Cage, Star Trek would have been very different, perhaps not as good.
For one thing, in that alternate ST universe, Volcan was not the more advanced culture that mane first contact with Earth, Volcan was conquered by Earth.
I for one thought that theme song for Enterprise was terrible. But The absolute biggest worst mistakes in Trek were made by the studio executives who made the bad decision to cancel each of the Star Trek series that got the axe 🤬
You can go fly in a comet tail about Enterprise's theme song. It endeared me to the series from the start! If you actually listen each year the music gets bolder and more confident like the crew of the Enterprise!
Regarding the swearing in Trek, either Britain is too up tight, or Canada is too vulgar, cause I grew up using all of this in school. It was the F word that would get us in trouble…. I also went to a catholic school,
I mean if we're talking mistakes, surely killing Jadzia should be on the list. No disrespect to Ezri mind.
14:00 I agree Gene would not have likes if, but that doesn't it was terrible. In fact, Gene hobbled Star Trek a bit. Sticking with Gene's vision would have limited the show.
Stories in Utopian societies are not that good, because it limits your stories. A dash of dystopia is always going to be better.
Question, Is the "Planet Hell" set also the set that got full of cat shit between uses? That would definitely add to the actors discomfort even if it had been "scooped" before being used.
Yea, turns out Q wasn't showing the Enterprise what was out there, he was showing them what was already coming. Without Q's help the Borg would have arrived in Federation space to find the Federation unprepared for their arrival.
When it comes to Star Trek Into Darkness I've said it before and I'll say it again and if I had to say many times that's fine Star Trek Into Darkness is not a remake of The Wrath of Khan Star Trek Into Darkness is a reimagining of the episode of space seed as a theatrical event
Geordi wasn't an error. Geordi was swapped between universes, which is why Guinan talks to him. Canon.
In the sections about profanity they forgot about the two times Captain Picard uses the French swear word Merde.
Maybe the reason Savvik was colder in Serch for Spock was because she was morning Spock.
I mean, but Discovery exists literally to break warp, like, warp 10 is a dumb and arbitrary limit ngl
I doubt that's how Marc Alaimo pronounces his last name guys. Do your research please.
You know I hated Dr polaski at the time but in retrospect the character has grown on me her arch from a rigid basically racist person then she evolves to be more understanding and empathetic she could have been a great character had she not replaced a fan favorite
1:27 threshold is an emmy award winning episode.
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I guess races and species making more than one ship does not work in the Star Trek universe? Just saying!!!
A lot of the mistakes I just create my own head canon for so they don’t really bother me. Lmao 🤷🏾♂️
I more then fine with seeing more of T'Pol if you know what I mean., the actress is smoking hot, so the more scenes they had of her in little clothing the better 😍
Discovery gave the Klingons to tallywackers😅😂😂