I partly agree. I tried making a move and not making a move on different girls. 1. Not making a move : (no kino, no physical escalation) you end up empty handed. 2. Making a move. Yes you are right, they see you are thirsty.. So, you have to combine.. First seductive words etc pulling their naughty side out, then making a move..
I can vouch for what he’s saying. If u remain centered, and calm, the girl will jump on top of you b4 the date is over. It drives her wild when everything she tries doesn’t throw u off. This is in contrast to what some dating coaches say when u should “show intent, be direct, make a move or you’ll get friend zoned.” Way I see it, making a move when ur not feeling it will most of the time backfire bc ur not authentic and girls know that. Not to say always play it safe, u have to take risks, but the date itself is enough risk and time invested. Let her earn your affection. Plus it’s HER idea if she makes a move and invests. Be patient. More often than not, you come out better in the long run. And you don’t have to sleep w/every girl you date. Sometimes it’s good to have girlfriends bc they know other hotter girls that u will meet down the road if ur a cool guy and not “a creep.” 👍
Disagree if she leaves with another dude u shouldn't act like u don't care ...u should make it known it's over or ask what's goin on. Women want reactions and unless ur a robot u will eventually....they many times want to see u care if u don't. ..they will assume they can do whatever or won't know what u want or think u don't care
@gman5069 not true, that's only if she don't like you to begin with....if she likes you and she feels you ain't all that into her she will work to change that
@@Kakekutter Pretty likely she don't, but see the relationship as a temporary, but ejoyeble step in her life, untill she finds mr Perfect, who treat her the right way and not boore her to death, but is still not a try hard simp.
@@Kakekutter naaa I been in many relationships women don't make it easy and want u working towards them. None that I been with that had dozens of options make shit that easy if she does she wants ur dick and ur one of 50 more big deal lmao and it's temporary
@@antipaganda5635 Thats the reason why if you've been giving a shit for a long time, you have a lot of unlearning to do. Constant reminder until it becomes ingrained
Sometimes it's good to just look at women in the eyes without saying anything. Have strong body language with emotive facial expressions so that its not creepy. It shows enough social calibration. Speak minimally. Use pauses to think. Use wit and be a smartass.
For those of you getting confused by the video: Whether she presents herself as sweet or strong, you'll be evaluated from the moment you show up at the date. It will be a mixed bag of verbal and non verbal tests. Depending on how you fare in those, she'll assess your emotional strength. If she feels that you're not physically escalating because you're afraid to lose her, she'll friend zone you. On the other hand, if she feels that you give two hoots about rocking the boat with her and yet you're not making a move then she initiates intimacy because your perceived frame is stronger. In the end, it's never about you, it's about what you make her feel at the moment
I love casey videos, LOTS of knowledge. but since i started semen retention, i feel like woman are no priority fo me , i only enjoy the peace that i have now.
@@Jcastro9444 Yes however the date should be set up with the attitude of ....let's see how this goes and im sure neither one of us expects much.... Then just be patient. I find just taking a girl out with zero expectations and just sitting together with light conversation will yield amazing results. Especially if you are comfortable in your own skin. You can have a good time no matter what the outcome of the date will or won't be. Who cares!?! you can set up as many dates as you want so it really doesn't matter
SUMMARY BY YO BOI 00:01 Trying to make a move on the first date can push the woman away 01:17 Misconception about making a move on first dates 02:31 Listening to social conditioning can lead you astray 03:39 Making a move on a first date is a mistake 04:50 Showing too much intent can make her pull away 05:56 Showcasing excessive interest ruins relationships 07:07 Women are better at being seductresses 08:25 Making a move is the biggest mistake on dates
99.9% of my dates: Me - never making any moves but being charming. Her - 1/2 way thru the date she is completely confused and starts making comments trying to see if Im interested and when Im charming but non commital she starts touching me on my leg or arm...And finally she trys to kiss me...Literally 99% of the time...its absolutely like clockwork - groundhog day. This is so consistant Ive told the woman before a first date this pattern will happen...And they still do it. YES...
This totally worked for me but I didn't know what or why at the time. On initial dates, I was not physical at all, and the girls got physical first, which totally surprised me. They'd link their arm in mine out of nowhere. Or lean on me. Or hook their foot around my leg. It might have been that I was inexperienced and scared, but it came off as stoic and mysterious. I was going too slow for them so they tried to kick start. Yes, words and personality only. Amazing to witness. Worked like a charm. Casey is first dating guru to say this (that I've heard).
How did you get over being scared? I was on a date with someone, and after it ended and I was seeing her to her car, I started shivering - because I couldn’t withhold all the adrenaline I’d been keeping at bay. She was like: ‘are you cold?’ I just said yes, but it was that same release of adrenaline you have after a fight, to return your system to normal.
@@JohnM... Simply just experiencing it and then realizing that it's not that bad. May take one date with a girl you find really attractive for it to hit you, may take multiple dates, all depends on the person. Like he is saying, being nervous gave her a different perception than what was actually going on. The key is to keep that once you get more comfortable. The more comfortable you get, the more sloppy you become and it ruins that perception.
naaaa... do what scares you.. it really depends on the vibe of the date. Absolutely kiss the girl if you are feeling the vibe. I think most guys dont have a good instinct developed. A feminine woman wants to see what you are going to do with her. My gf said she is really happy I made moves on our first date
9:04 FACT. Because now HER EMOTIONS gets INVESTED in to you, due to uncertainty, wondering, wanting more to find out and experience more about you. So all the men keep asking "how to get women hooked/obsessed" with you, THIS IS HOW. But you MUST be of interest and she MUST enjoy her time WITH you or even while talking to you, but more so WITH YOU IN YOUR PRESENCE. Then you CUT your time with her, you are to GENUINELY BUSY. Dont be the guy you saw her last night and this morning first thing YOU contact her, it's best if SHE does that.
That's how their game work.. Go go towards them and watch them run away... Leave them and be good and enjoying yourself and see them sitting on your laps
This would be a miserable existence to care so much about being left that you can't care at all if you truly don't care it doesn't matter enjoy yourself
Early on I definitely had women say "there was no spark" because I didn't do enough to create attraction. I do agree that showing too much interest can backfire, but so is not doing anything. If it helps I tend to create some physical touch, but in a way that doesn't show interest directly, so like a silly game where you both are touching. Escalates things but in a way where she is wondering if you like her. Also avoids you looking creepy or making her feel uncomfortable. Deffo go for a kiss at some point if she's showing obvious interest after that imo. If you aren't sure, just be chill and be patient. I would say trust your gut.
If u don't build attraction and talk to her like anybodyelse that is true. It also depends on the girl....super insecure chics arnt goin to want u to make a move....secure chics won't mind at all u Guage it based on them and time and place. ..
It’s how you don’t make the move. If you’re very confident in your demeanor, they will continue to chase you. If you’re sheepish and don’t make a move, they will think you lack confidence and they will walk away. There are so many layers and it’s unfortunate. Chad and Tyrone, refusing to make the first move will have the girls scheming to figure out how to get them. Kevin from accounting not making the first move. We just have them walking away.
I think going for the kiss on the first date is important to show you're not a wimp. It's also easy to find out from there if the girl is interested or not. But everything after that (2nd base, 3rd base, sex) I'd say it's important to be reserved and show you don't need it. That way, the girl feels like she's trying to win you over
Honestly if a girl kisses you that doesn't make her interested. Legit the last 4 girls I kissed on the first date did not want a second. One even said "I know this will be suprising seeing as we had a really great time..." and yeh it was. Another who I didn't kiss on the first but at the end of the second agreed to a third date but then made an excuses the night before to cancel. Never seen her again. I don't agree sex wise either. If you go full throttle first date and sleep with her she will absolutely see you again. That's probably the strongest play in my opinion. But it's likely to fizzle out a month or two because it's so hot and heavy in the beginning you kinda skip over the important stuff.
This is true every time I engaged I was turned down every time I sat there and just relaxed and chilled the next thing you know 😺 giving so easily you must remain that frame to I allow the woman to start everything now in my life and and I finish it like Mortal kombat
I think this is learned with experience, since you have to gauge what type of girl she seems to be (introverted or extroverted). Which of the two "SHE" is showing you, in correspondence with the two pairing strategies they have. Since she already classified you in the first seconds of the interaction, she expects you to "get it" with the signals she will give you through her subcommunication. If she wants you as a "boyfriend," she will expect you to be stoic in the first few interactions. She wants to test how much you can hold back, but you must slowly but surely increase the volume of your sexuality. Your look, your humor with a certain malice and mischief, the half smile that she communicates: we are going to get into so much trouble together. Balancing with moments of inattention and a relaxed look at other things. You have to turn your interest on and off in minutes, NOT the entire encounter On...or cold off. And play "innocently" and sequentially from cold to more intimate areas. Do not start with the HANDS, but with the forearm, external shoulders, internal shoulders, push it away from you, bring it towards you... always fun and without fear, waist, back, later in the match, always calibrating the response, and moving back again sequence, to skip some later. This breaks the expected pattern of behavior and drives her crazy. Same with the topics, serious, Naughty, Disinterested, Interested, lightly and indirectly sexual topics, and everyday topics, vary all the time. When you see Ella light up, she will communicate it to you by her bright gaze, she will begin to touch you and approach you. This process is like the Waves of the sea. The good thing about this sequence is that if you are really good you can do it all on the first date, or not develop all the stages, leave it in "TO BE CONTINUED..", it depends on you... you can interrupt it and SHE will find a way to achieve another meeting . I do not recommend kissing, until your hands are definitely on her intimate parts (FINAL PHASE). If you kiss earlier in the sequence and go ahead of it, she may become disinterested because KISSING is the same as VERBALIZING the desire, which for most of them, who really like mystery, novels, games, is frustrating and discouraging. You broke the magic. Only a really Alpha Dominant guy who has perceived it that way from before, can kiss suddenly and she will accept it willingly, but she "knows" that that same day she will make it happen. If you are not Alpha like 80%, and she does not feel that you are Alpha Dominant, and you kiss her before the whole process, she will detect that you do it because she really likes you, and she will go into difficult mode and not to mention if later If you want to go back to a second date, it will be cold and difficult...if he comes back. PURE DISINTEREST COLD ALL THE TIME DOES NOT WORK (GOES WITH ANOTHER). PURE INTEREST ALL THE TIME EITHER (THEY WILL FLEE). Interested, disinterested, more interested if she earns it, you reward with some validating comment (nice earrings), disinterested, witty and funny comment about something, serious, thoughtful, you return to her and look into her eyes showing all your interest, she you take away, you play, you withdraw, you play on a scale, and become disinterested... break patterns. If you are a teacher, or already have that gift, you can do it on the first appointment, otherwise you can interrupt it and do it on the second. Don't delay any more appointments from there. If you did the whole sequence on the first date, or finished it on the second, and you took the dangerous step of kissing her without getting your hands into her intimate area, you better do it, that is, have sex immediately, or later From that kiss I will hardly want to see you again unless I am a girl without options, the mystery is gone.
I have been telling my friends that your looks will attract them and your words will make them fall in love and your personality, charisma, charm will keep them around . Ask yourself do I have all of these ? If not get to work thanks bro this free information
Let's pretend we don't like a girl we are on a date with. I disagree with this. Just going for a kiss means nothing. Just don't be needy about it. I show sexual intent fairly fast. Some get turned on and are down, some aren't and you won't be able to change their STATE no matter what you do. Same as when I cold approach on the street, some will be in state and open to an insta date and some won't.
naah on this 1, most dates where i kissed the girl was fine afterwards.. some of them became my GF. You could surely surprise some by beeing all cool but not attempting anything, some would probably treat it as weakness... this one depends alot on the girl/situation i think
The reason you’re not supposed to make the first move is because you’re supposed to do the other things right which will cause her to make the first move. Just don’t be nervous. Act like you’ve done it a million times. When I’m on a date I almost convince myself I don’t even like the girl. Girls have told me they can tell I’ve been with a lot of girls by how I talk to them. Act like it’s not a big deal (dismissive) but still be direct. Hot and cold. Dismissive and cold to lower her anxiety then as soon as she’s laughing you go direct and hot.
When you follow your gut You fall into your emotions And following your emotions Will lead to weakness She sees right through you Guys are the organizers Women are the chaos
Man this video unfortunately came too late for me. I did all the wrong things you talked about on my first date. And when I say all of them, I mean all of them. Now she pulled back and doesn't say anything anymore, because I had the believe I needed to make moves to show I'm a man. Boy was I wrong
I think this is advanced game for advanced situations. simple as that. completely contextual. this is for when a women is playing hard to get and giving you advanced tests. I think most women who are on the date aren't top tier serial daters and will go with their basic level of thinking which is, is he confident? is he masculine enough? is he sexy and smooth? will he handle my objections with grace?
Eh i take their social queues and escalate accordingly. When this happens they proceed to blow up my phone after the date. When i played it cool and didnt escalate the chance for second snd third dates were lower.
Good video vouched. I don't kiss/those things on purpose and let it sit there. If they have attraction for you and see in you that you know that you can kiss her and she would allow it and DON'T do it this drives them crazy, they never have this done to them if you did it right she will jump on you.
@Youwkwnoe_ie think of yourself as James bond (Daniel craig) that's the best example I can give you. Go watch some of the scenes he interacts with women
it depends what you want out of your relationships for instance I’ve been called sexually intimidating many times or that I just look like I have rough sex so girls I run into tend to expect a certain level of prescribed aggression because if your aggressive and outgoing all the time in all areas of life so she knows that doesn’t necessarily make her special and that comes down to set up so imo the best ones do expect a certain level of aggression but not disrespectfully . I like to stick my neck out a little bit because I’ve found it actually builds romance while also hiding the fact that your running game. Once they find out your awareness to game Ive found it becomes a lot harder it not then it’s OVER
I am 53 years old but people told me I look about 38 or 39, I've always done pretty good with the ladies, I personally have never had a bad first date, I always end up sleeping with the person, but I never make a first move I've never done that, but I wanna know how u just figured all this stuff out, and you know that it's right? Mind you I am not doubting you, at all, some of the stuff I've been doing naturally throughout my life that you speak of, but some of the stuff I've been fucking up for sure and I would just like to know exactly how you figured all this stuff out
Yes because you like a good time, people could be benefichial to you, but you got lots of alternetives, and lots of fun. I didn't make women evolution and biology did!
Interesting points. I did the exact opposite, I kissed her as I greeted her at her car, she melted right then and there... I said little, showed I'm centered with confidence, gave direction but was all over her and she was loving it feeding into it (concert setting). We left in my car for a bite then on the way to her car she asked me to take her to my place instead. Yeah she was hot... probably top 5 I have gone out with. I think she was excited it wasn't some weak ass first date. I will say some other first dates if I wasn't sure if I was feeling anything I would take this videos approach and even not follow up or flat out say IDK if there was a connection which they want to fix. IDK to me this feels like going to an interview (not fun) and I'm just trying to go have a good time instead... maybe I should change up my view of a first date instead?
I had an absolutely beautiful 19 year old girl tell me about her sexual escapade and I just listened and she waited for my reaction. I told her, “well you got it just like you wanted it” and was indifferent. The waitress came by and said “ you two look like you are okay nobody is hurting anyone “ and I said “I’m not her Dom” and I looked away. The girl flipped and came after me like I was the last man on earth. I learned what Casey just described..
8:44 men, women... anyone, as long as you are the one with PERCEIVED high value. Men as in, they SHOW RESPECT to you. This is where i WIN because a significant amount of the men who are viewed as high value in my area, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO APPROACH ME TO SAY HELLO. So that's SOCIAL PROOF.
100% True! I used to not to do any moves at first date because of my shyness and continued dating with same girls. But when I decided to change a strategy and started making moves on first date then girls start pulling away.
Just to add a perspective here from a guy who lives in Asia and dates mostly Asian girls: A lot of what Casey says is true across cultures; however, I feel like a lot of what he says only applies to girls who have slept around so much they’ve lost the ability to pair bond and thus need constant emotional stimulation to stick to a man. In my experience living in an Asian culture where women are less sexually promiscuous I’ve noticed that once you sleep with a woman she becomes 10x more attached and will be the one trying to keep you locked in the relationship, not the other way round. I almost feel like the value of sex in relationships might be understated in Casey videos. Even Rollo Tommassi said that “sex is what glues relationships together.” Either that or don’t try to make a long term partner out of a woman that has lost her pair bonding ability from sleeping around too much.
You speak the truth? I went out with women and didn't even try to do anything. Next time we see each other going to date. Play cool but I'm actually being cool because I'm not pressed. She literally grabbed me.Took me to the bedroom and threw me on the bed and said come on Some guys have never experienced being taken like that by a woman
It's a matter of not proving yourself to chicks by making moves on the date, it's only by your presence alone ensures her of your interest in her and therefore she'll be the one making the moves to prove herself to you, plain and quite simple
i agree its about holding masculine frame, ladys love that shit. I remember when i worked at whole foods years ago and when i started i held a strong masculine frame and this one chick who was cute loved it but she had a bf, I became like her work bf for a few weeks. I remember one time on break when we were talking/flirting and she said something about me i cant remember but our co worker who was in the break room said her name outloud like secretly saying "hey you shouldnt be flirting with him you have a bf". Sadly I couldnt hold the frame long enough and she realized I wasnt "that guy" she pulled back like crazy, ignored me when i walked by, never talking to me again, basically avoiding me. Ill say this though, the frame shit was working 100%. Stand tall, walk strong, be confident, have calm good eye contact. Dont over react. Stay relaxed, speak deep and masculine. I gotta take my own advice lol.
There are different ways of doing stuff - even with revealing iinterest you can do it in a correct masculine way calling her a 4' and a dummie, puuling her in, ordering her to sit on your lap (then asking why did she sat on your lap like she wants to make out, and that you are not that easy) putting her hand on your lap or chest (then slapping it away saying she's not allowed and need to ask or permission) , accusing her of staring at you bicep/chest/ass and be fake unhappy for being treated as a sexual object, and even then when she's gonna lean in acting like kissing her is the most disgusting thing you're about to do ...just multiple bait and switch in a row will show her you couldn't care less if she stands up and leave in a next second will make her want to kiss you and/or do whatever - all in all not taking it serious will prevent guy from having googly eyes and overly showing high interest
Not only do the game never end, they actually get worse. And yes - women are far naughtier than men, they just need to make it so they can convince themselves they gave in due to the guy making her. It’s almost never the case.
I have a crazy theory, and because iv implemented this guy's advices i never had sucess, i think he is sharing wrong and very controversial info so that he gets views and get his fans to fail with relationships so that they go and buy his course, i don't know but i just had this idea that i think its the case here.
Keep his ideas in the back of your head and watch their actions not their words. Don't take what Casey says as gospel for every single woman but a lot is useful to think about.
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Not really true. I’m in Brazil and if you basically don’t try to kiss the girl you definitely won’t see her again. And also I go for it on first date EVERYTIME because if she isn’t down she doesn’t like you and you should move on to the next
Again, you don’t have to sleep with every woman that throws themselves at you either. That’s really not giving a shit. That’s the ultimate validation, even if they call it off. They always come back , be different.
Everyone in the comments are making this mistake in thinking: when you WANT to make a move but DONT, you look like a pussy. But if you dont make a move out of lack of interest, she assumes you have options and she becomes interested. If boy want girl, girl loses interest. If boy loses interest, girl wants boy.
You focus on your selfimprovement, maybe you do a little contact, but not much, enough to make them think about you a bit. I agree it is just superhard to tell if they like you or not, I don't think they know themself, it is a lot of emotions but they also have some strange instincts that triggers their emotions. For example if another atractiv women talking to you, then you could level up 2p in 5 min and it is an attitudeshit you can't miss. Then it dosn't stopp them from nagging and beeing a pain in a relationship 2 years down the road, when you wounder what they liked at all about you in the first place. Complicated is the word.
Im a bit older maybe, but in my experience i always go for what i want, never regretted it. Strange advise , you wait till a woman take action? It s weak
When it feels right and you lean in and she doesn't pull away. If she pulls away then she didn't like you anyway and you'll be wasting time. You can see it in their eyes. Takes practice.
Disagree strongly with you on this video.. If you don't make a move on the first date she will percieve you as a BETA and not ALPHA. You have to be subtle yet still show intent and be in your maximum seductive frame.
I need yalls help, I was talking to this girl from school and we had a little conversation. So I invited her out and she had a few more questions like where we going and stuff and then she said “let’s see” “Cus u never talk to me in school” ( I’ve talked to her like twice before) and that’s it. Should I actually talk to her or don’t show that I’m interested?
I’m kinda feeling discouraged and disappointed in myself for messing up with a few dates I’ve had. I’ve never dated before so it’s new to me. Is it normal to feel like you lost the one you thought were perfect?
@@carterboyfresh5989 this is the first girl I’ve ever dated, the only other times I’ve been with girls with when I was 18 and it just happened after the club. I’m 24 now and tried again, yeah it fucking hurts but I’m trying to learn from these mistakes to come back reinvented. Just think it’s going be hard to do all of this when I can’t feel like being myself
A few dates isn't enough time to know about anyone. In the beginning, people only show you their best and not the demons they struggle with. That's why it's a dangerous mindset to think any woman is perfect because none are. If a woman wants to be with you, great. If not, great, but getting fixated on any one woman often leads to despair.
Casey is more articulate, real, knowledgeable and convincing than Andrew Tate. It's from experience. Andrew Tate is a huge fake. He uses money, flamboyant lifestyle to attract gold diggers, and the guy looks confused and angry in interviews. It's like he is harbouring some bitterness.
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I partly agree. I tried making a move and not making a move on different girls.
1. Not making a move : (no kino, no physical escalation) you end up empty handed.
2. Making a move. Yes you are right, they see you are thirsty..
So, you have to combine.. First seductive words etc pulling their naughty side out, then making a move..
I make my move once she rips my clothes off 😂
I can vouch for what he’s saying. If u remain centered, and calm, the girl will jump on top of you b4 the date is over. It drives her wild when everything she tries doesn’t throw u off. This is in contrast to what some dating coaches say when u should “show intent, be direct, make a move or you’ll get friend zoned.” Way I see it, making a move when ur not feeling it will most of the time backfire bc ur not authentic and girls know that. Not to say always play it safe, u have to take risks, but the date itself is enough risk and time invested. Let her earn your affection. Plus it’s HER idea if she makes a move and invests. Be patient. More often than not, you come out better in the long run. And you don’t have to sleep w/every girl you date. Sometimes it’s good to have girlfriends bc they know other hotter girls that u will meet down the road if ur a cool guy and not “a creep.” 👍
Yeah it is not easy to read women, best focus on yourself! They also like to have lots of admieres!
Disagree if she leaves with another dude u shouldn't act like u don't care ...u should make it known it's over or ask what's goin on. Women want reactions and unless ur a robot u will eventually....they many times want to see u care if u don't. ..they will assume they can do whatever or won't know what u want or think u don't care
@gman5069 not true, that's only if she don't like you to begin with....if she likes you and she feels you ain't all that into her she will work to change that
@@Kakekutter
Pretty likely she don't, but see the relationship as a temporary, but ejoyeble step in her life, untill she finds mr Perfect, who treat her the right way and not boore her to death, but is still not a try hard simp.
@@Kakekutter naaa I been in many relationships women don't make it easy and want u working towards them. None that I been with that had dozens of options make shit that easy if she does she wants ur dick and ur one of 50 more big deal lmao and it's temporary
Once again, everyone: Not giving a shit is key!
But if you have to remind yourself to not give a shit.. doesn't that come from giving a shit?
But it's not biologically safe humans need to shit to clean their bodies
Yeah, if you are here then you give a shyt
@@antipaganda5635 Thats the reason why if you've been giving a shit for a long time, you have a lot of unlearning to do.
Constant reminder until it becomes ingrained
'so what, everything will work out'
Sometimes it's good to just look at women in the eyes without saying anything. Have strong body language with emotive facial expressions so that its not creepy. It shows enough social calibration. Speak minimally. Use pauses to think. Use wit and be a smartass.
Solid
100 creeper to any high value woman
This is it right here
@@SDHome-nc3qy ur so lost i don’t even know where to begin
Me after Casey says “what you have to understand is” for the 8 billionth time: I understand.
no you don't. We always forget when shit goes south. So, you gotta understand and become that
Never listen to friends, they want you to fail if they are single or they like the girl your dating
Maybe you should just hang out with better people
GET NEW FRIENDS. Those are not your "friends" bro.
Sheeesh you font know how to choose friends either.
The world is competition. People who are employees will always want you to fuck it up.
It's such a strange dynamic because as men, we are naturally the doers, yet this does work.
For those of you getting confused by the video: Whether she presents herself as sweet or strong, you'll be evaluated from the moment you show up at the date. It will be a mixed bag of verbal and non verbal tests. Depending on how you fare in those, she'll assess your emotional strength. If she feels that you're not physically escalating because you're afraid to lose her, she'll friend zone you. On the other hand, if she feels that you give two hoots about rocking the boat with her and yet you're not making a move then she initiates intimacy because your perceived frame is stronger. In the end, it's never about you, it's about what you make her feel at the moment
They never end. She is always either being respectful or disrespectful.. and wanna be CHECKED
I love casey videos, LOTS of knowledge.
but since i started semen retention, i feel like woman are no priority fo me , i only enjoy the peace that i have now.
Facts. The girl you are out on a date with should be unsure on whether or not you find her attractive.
All the time!
The minute you ask her on a date ,she already knows you're somewhat interested
@@Jcastro9444 Yes however the date should be set up with the attitude of ....let's see how this goes and im sure neither one of us expects much.... Then just be patient. I find just taking a girl out with zero expectations and just sitting together with light conversation will yield amazing results. Especially if you are comfortable in your own skin. You can have a good time no matter what the outcome of the date will or won't be. Who cares!?! you can set up as many dates as you want so it really doesn't matter
@alexleggett6270 if you don't sleep with her by the 2nd date cut ya losses brotha lol
@@Jcastro9444Yeah Pretty much lol
SUMMARY BY YO BOI
00:01 Trying to make a move on the first date can push the woman away
01:17 Misconception about making a move on first dates
02:31 Listening to social conditioning can lead you astray
03:39 Making a move on a first date is a mistake
04:50 Showing too much intent can make her pull away
05:56 Showcasing excessive interest ruins relationships
07:07 Women are better at being seductresses
08:25 Making a move is the biggest mistake on dates
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99.9% of my dates: Me - never making any moves but being charming.
Her - 1/2 way thru the date she is completely confused and starts making comments trying to see if Im interested and when Im charming but non commital she starts touching me on my leg or arm...And finally she trys to kiss me...Literally 99% of the time...its absolutely like clockwork - groundhog day.
This is so consistant Ive told the woman before a first date this pattern will happen...And they still do it. YES...
good sauce right here 🧠
This totally worked for me but I didn't know what or why at the time. On initial dates, I was not physical at all, and the girls got physical first, which totally surprised me. They'd link their arm in mine out of nowhere. Or lean on me. Or hook their foot around my leg.
It might have been that I was inexperienced and scared, but it came off as stoic and mysterious. I was going too slow for them so they tried to kick start.
Yes, words and personality only.
Amazing to witness. Worked like a charm.
Casey is first dating guru to say this (that I've heard).
How did you get over being scared? I was on a date with someone, and after it ended and I was seeing her to her car, I started shivering - because I couldn’t withhold all the adrenaline I’d been keeping at bay. She was like: ‘are you cold?’ I just said yes, but it was that same release of adrenaline you have after a fight, to return your system to normal.
@@JohnM... Simply just experiencing it and then realizing that it's not that bad. May take one date with a girl you find really attractive for it to hit you, may take multiple dates, all depends on the person. Like he is saying, being nervous gave her a different perception than what was actually going on. The key is to keep that once you get more comfortable. The more comfortable you get, the more sloppy you become and it ruins that perception.
naaaa... do what scares you.. it really depends on the vibe of the date. Absolutely kiss the girl if you are feeling the vibe. I think most guys dont have a good instinct developed.
A feminine woman wants to see what you are going to do with her. My gf said she is really happy I made moves on our first date
Yeah need to develop that sense. Hard at first for sure. When you know you know though. Feels electric.
Very true. If the moment is there and you are both feeling it and you don't kiss her but she wants you to, you blew it.
I'm 58. The games never stop, but now I know better.
2:35 if she hinting at you to escalate, that's a different scenario and it also depends on HOW u do it.
9:04 FACT. Because now HER EMOTIONS gets INVESTED in to you, due to uncertainty, wondering, wanting more to find out and experience more about you. So all the men keep asking "how to get women hooked/obsessed" with you, THIS IS HOW. But you MUST be of interest and she MUST enjoy her time WITH you or even while talking to you, but more so WITH YOU IN YOUR PRESENCE. Then you CUT your time with her, you are to GENUINELY BUSY. Dont be the guy you saw her last night and this morning first thing YOU contact her, it's best if SHE does that.
That's how their game work.. Go go towards them and watch them run away... Leave them and be good and enjoying yourself and see them sitting on your laps
Casey speaking facts as always. Your content is on top of the hierarchy. You should write a book.
This would be a miserable existence to care so much about being left that you can't care at all if you truly don't care it doesn't matter enjoy yourself
Loving these practical videos where you’re teaching us exactly how to put in practice all the whiteboard info from months ago.
I've always heard that if you don't make a move, you don't escalate and show attraction and intent she will friend zone you. I'm so confused.
yea dude it's pretty much random, if it works it works if not then find a new girl
Early on I definitely had women say "there was no spark" because I didn't do enough to create attraction. I do agree that showing too much interest can backfire, but so is not doing anything. If it helps I tend to create some physical touch, but in a way that doesn't show interest directly, so like a silly game where you both are touching. Escalates things but in a way where she is wondering if you like her. Also avoids you looking creepy or making her feel uncomfortable. Deffo go for a kiss at some point if she's showing obvious interest after that imo. If you aren't sure, just be chill and be patient. I would say trust your gut.
Sometimes escalation is required. It depends on the situation and can only be learned by experience and tbh .... guesswork
If u don't build attraction and talk to her like anybodyelse that is true. It also depends on the girl....super insecure chics arnt goin to want u to make a move....secure chics won't mind at all u Guage it based on them and time and place. ..
It’s how you don’t make the move. If you’re very confident in your demeanor, they will continue to chase you. If you’re sheepish and don’t make a move, they will think you lack confidence and they will walk away. There are so many layers and it’s unfortunate. Chad and Tyrone, refusing to make the first move will have the girls scheming to figure out how to get them. Kevin from accounting not making the first move. We just have them walking away.
I think going for the kiss on the first date is important to show you're not a wimp. It's also easy to find out from there if the girl is interested or not. But everything after that (2nd base, 3rd base, sex) I'd say it's important to be reserved and show you don't need it. That way, the girl feels like she's trying to win you over
Honestly if a girl kisses you that doesn't make her interested. Legit the last 4 girls I kissed on the first date did not want a second. One even said "I know this will be suprising seeing as we had a really great time..." and yeh it was. Another who I didn't kiss on the first but at the end of the second agreed to a third date but then made an excuses the night before to cancel. Never seen her again. I don't agree sex wise either. If you go full throttle first date and sleep with her she will absolutely see you again. That's probably the strongest play in my opinion. But it's likely to fizzle out a month or two because it's so hot and heavy in the beginning you kinda skip over the important stuff.
@@chrisdavidson5044 You can tell by how a girl kisses you whether she's interested or not
This is true every time I engaged I was turned down every time I sat there and just relaxed and chilled the next thing you know 😺 giving so easily you must remain that frame to I allow the woman to start everything now in my life and and I finish it like Mortal kombat
I think this is learned with experience, since you have to gauge what type of girl she seems to be (introverted or extroverted). Which of the two "SHE" is showing you, in correspondence with the two pairing strategies they have. Since she already classified you in the first seconds of the interaction, she expects you to "get it" with the signals she will give you through her subcommunication. If she wants you as a "boyfriend," she will expect you to be stoic in the first few interactions. She wants to test how much you can hold back, but you must slowly but surely increase the volume of your sexuality. Your look, your humor with a certain malice and mischief, the half smile that she communicates: we are going to get into so much trouble together. Balancing with moments of inattention and a relaxed look at other things. You have to turn your interest on and off in minutes, NOT the entire encounter On...or cold off. And play "innocently" and sequentially from cold to more intimate areas. Do not start with the HANDS, but with the forearm, external shoulders, internal shoulders, push it away from you, bring it towards you... always fun and without fear, waist, back, later in the match, always calibrating the response, and moving back again sequence, to skip some later. This breaks the expected pattern of behavior and drives her crazy. Same with the topics, serious, Naughty, Disinterested, Interested, lightly and indirectly sexual topics, and everyday topics, vary all the time. When you see Ella light up, she will communicate it to you by her bright gaze, she will begin to touch you and approach you. This process is like the Waves of the sea. The good thing about this sequence is that if you are really good you can do it all on the first date, or not develop all the stages, leave it in "TO BE CONTINUED..", it depends on you... you can interrupt it and SHE will find a way to achieve another meeting . I do not recommend kissing, until your hands are definitely on her intimate parts (FINAL PHASE). If you kiss earlier in the sequence and go ahead of it, she may become disinterested because KISSING is the same as VERBALIZING the desire, which for most of them, who really like mystery, novels, games, is frustrating and discouraging. You broke the magic. Only a really Alpha Dominant guy who has perceived it that way from before, can kiss suddenly and she will accept it willingly, but she "knows" that that same day she will make it happen. If you are not Alpha like 80%, and she does not feel that you are Alpha Dominant, and you kiss her before the whole process, she will detect that you do it because she really likes you, and she will go into difficult mode and not to mention if later If you want to go back to a second date, it will be cold and difficult...if he comes back. PURE DISINTEREST COLD ALL THE TIME DOES NOT WORK (GOES WITH ANOTHER). PURE INTEREST ALL THE TIME EITHER (THEY WILL FLEE). Interested, disinterested, more interested if she earns it, you reward with some validating comment (nice earrings), disinterested, witty and funny comment about something, serious, thoughtful, you return to her and look into her eyes showing all your interest, she you take away, you play, you withdraw, you play on a scale, and become disinterested... break patterns. If you are a teacher, or already have that gift, you can do it on the first appointment, otherwise you can interrupt it and do it on the second. Don't delay any more appointments from there. If you did the whole sequence on the first date, or finished it on the second, and you took the dangerous step of kissing her without getting your hands into her intimate area, you better do it, that is, have sex immediately, or later From that kiss I will hardly want to see you again unless I am a girl without options, the mystery is gone.
ur completely correct about this, it took some years for me to figure this out
I have been telling my friends that your looks will attract them and your words will make them fall in love and your personality, charisma, charm will keep them around . Ask yourself do I have all of these ? If not get to work thanks bro this free information
Let's pretend we don't like a girl we are on a date with. I disagree with this. Just going for a kiss means nothing. Just don't be needy about it.
I show sexual intent fairly fast. Some get turned on and are down, some aren't and you won't be able to change their STATE no matter what you do.
Same as when I cold approach on the street, some will be in state and open to an insta date and some won't.
You say no matter what you do but I get the impression you haven't actually gave this a go.
@@chrisdavidson5044 aiyh
@@chrisdavidson5044 aiyh
naah on this 1, most dates where i kissed the girl was fine afterwards.. some of them became my GF. You could surely surprise some by beeing all cool but not attempting anything, some would probably treat it as weakness... this one depends alot on the girl/situation i think
Also depends on the Country too. In the USA this works but outside the USA you'll struggle hard acting this way.
The reason you’re not supposed to make the first move is because you’re supposed to do the other things right which will cause her to make the first move. Just don’t be nervous. Act like you’ve done it a million times. When I’m on a date I almost convince myself I don’t even like the girl. Girls have told me they can tell I’ve been with a lot of girls by how I talk to them. Act like it’s not a big deal (dismissive) but still be direct. Hot and cold. Dismissive and cold to lower her anxiety then as soon as she’s laughing you go direct and hot.
When you follow your gut
You fall into your emotions
And following your emotions
Will lead to weakness
She sees right through you
Guys are the organizers
Women are the chaos
Man this video unfortunately came too late for me. I did all the wrong things you talked about on my first date. And when I say all of them, I mean all of them. Now she pulled back and doesn't say anything anymore, because I had the believe I needed to make moves to show I'm a man. Boy was I wrong
We all made those mistakes
You will only get better at it! 💪💪💪
Spot on, my man! The game never stops. Love your channel, good advice and down to earth common sense.
Don't give up the game, leave them wondering and be opposite and more different than any dude they have met.
I think this is advanced game for advanced situations. simple as that. completely contextual. this is for when a women is playing hard to get and giving you advanced tests. I think most women who are on the date aren't top tier serial daters and will go with their basic level of thinking which is, is he confident? is he masculine enough? is he sexy and smooth? will he handle my objections with grace?
Eh i take their social queues and escalate accordingly. When this happens they proceed to blow up my phone after the date.
When i played it cool and didnt escalate the chance for second snd third dates were lower.
Good video vouched. I don't kiss/those things on purpose and let it sit there. If they have attraction for you and see in you that you know that you can kiss her and she would allow it and DON'T do it this drives them crazy, they never have this done to them if you did it right she will jump on you.
There are no games, Casey. WE are The Game.
A woman should make the first move if they have serious intentions
she wont thou, keep waiting
The first move? That’s 98% unlikely
Act kinda repulsed. See what happens. Absolutely wild.
You are correct sir. Stop putting your girl on a pedestal and stay focused on your goals.
Not sure about this one buddy. If you make a move you are showing dominance that many other men are afraid of doing.
Exactly, you hold frame and be masculine while having some charm during the date and at the end you try to make a move. It's always worked for me
@@Jcastro9444how to hold masculine frame?
@Youwkwnoe_ie think of yourself as James bond (Daniel craig) that's the best example I can give you. Go watch some of the scenes he interacts with women
Right. If you do nothing you come across too scared. Even Corey Wayne says always go for the kiss close.
@@steveloafe exactly
Going to try acting repulsed on a date, see what happens.
Great video as always 🤠 (and hat)
I dont know man. When i took this girl out and kissed her after dropping her off, It was up from there. Her attraction for me skyrocketed
yep, made this cardinal sin 6 months back. Wish this video was available then.
So on point my man, straight no bs video as always from CZ
This may seem counter intuitive but he is 100% right. This was my trick and it works. He is absolutely right
it depends what you want out of your relationships for instance I’ve been called sexually intimidating many times or that I just look like I have rough sex so girls I run into tend to expect a certain level of prescribed aggression because if your aggressive and outgoing all the time in all areas of life so she knows that doesn’t necessarily make her special and that comes down to set up so imo the best ones do expect a certain level of aggression but not disrespectfully . I like to stick my neck out a little bit because I’ve found it actually builds romance while also hiding the fact that your running game. Once they find out your awareness to game Ive found it becomes a lot harder it not then it’s OVER
This only works if you are super jacked like him. Cause the girl thinks you have many options. Wont work with a shy girl for sure.
I am 53 years old but people told me I look about 38 or 39, I've always done pretty good with the ladies, I personally have never had a bad first date, I always end up sleeping with the person, but I never make a first move I've never done that, but I wanna know how u just figured all this stuff out, and you know that it's right? Mind you I am not doubting you, at all, some of the stuff I've been doing naturally throughout my life that you speak of, but some of the stuff I've been fucking up for sure and I would just like to know exactly how you figured all this stuff out
Bro you call her to date you and then act you don't care ?! Wtf 😂😂😂😂
pretty much all advice on the internet is only confusing you, just go with your instincts, they almost never fail
You don't understand lol
It's insane
Yes because you like a good time, people could be benefichial to you, but you got lots of alternetives, and lots of fun. I didn't make women evolution and biology did!
In a few word's "Don't be c**t struck!" 😅😂
amazing stream of insights throughout so many videos!!
I´m so glad you exist brother.
can you make a video on how to properly give her validation when she does something for you or compliments you?
Interesting points. I did the exact opposite, I kissed her as I greeted her at her car, she melted right then and there... I said little, showed I'm centered with confidence, gave direction but was all over her and she was loving it feeding into it (concert setting). We left in my car for a bite then on the way to her car she asked me to take her to my place instead.
Yeah she was hot... probably top 5 I have gone out with. I think she was excited it wasn't some weak ass first date. I will say some other first dates if I wasn't sure if I was feeling anything I would take this videos approach and even not follow up or flat out say IDK if there was a connection which they want to fix. IDK to me this feels like going to an interview (not fun) and I'm just trying to go have a good time instead... maybe I should change up my view of a first date instead?
I had an absolutely beautiful 19 year old girl tell me about her sexual escapade and I just listened and she waited for my reaction. I told her, “well you got it just like you wanted it” and was indifferent. The waitress came by and said “ you two look like you are okay nobody is hurting anyone “ and I said “I’m not her Dom” and I looked away. The girl flipped and came after me like I was the last man on earth.
I learned what Casey just described..
Always on point💯☯️ Zanders Stile📈🍀🌍
8:44 men, women... anyone, as long as you are the one with PERCEIVED high value. Men as in, they SHOW RESPECT to you. This is where i WIN because a significant amount of the men who are viewed as high value in my area, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO APPROACH ME TO SAY HELLO. So that's SOCIAL PROOF.
100% True! I used to not to do any moves at first date because of my shyness and continued dating with same girls.
But when I decided to change a strategy and started making moves on first date then girls start pulling away.
Great message as always bro 💯👏👏
Just to add a perspective here from a guy who lives in Asia and dates mostly Asian girls:
A lot of what Casey says is true across cultures; however, I feel like a lot of what he says only applies to girls who have slept around so much they’ve lost the ability to pair bond and thus need constant emotional stimulation to stick to a man.
In my experience living in an Asian culture where women are less sexually promiscuous I’ve noticed that once you sleep with a woman she becomes 10x more attached and will be the one trying to keep you locked in the relationship, not the other way round.
I almost feel like the value of sex in relationships might be understated in Casey videos. Even Rollo Tommassi said that “sex is what glues relationships together.”
Either that or don’t try to make a long term partner out of a woman that has lost her pair bonding ability from sleeping around too much.
I would say, to never make a first move unless you're at a place where sex can take place. If you're somewhere sex can't take place, then don't do it
Okay fair enough, but then at what point should you show your intent or interest level? How far along in the contact?
Not on the first date as the title states
You speak the truth? I went out with women and didn't even try to do anything. Next time we see each other going to date. Play cool but I'm actually being cool because I'm not pressed. She literally grabbed me.Took me to the bedroom and threw me on the bed and said come on Some guys have never experienced being taken like that by a woman
Women already know our interest level in sex, it’s not necessarily our interest level in the woman
It's a matter of not proving yourself to chicks by making moves on the date, it's only by your presence alone ensures her of your interest in her and therefore she'll be the one making the moves to prove herself to you, plain and quite simple
i agree its about holding masculine frame, ladys love that shit. I remember when i worked at whole foods years ago and when i started i held a strong masculine frame and this one chick who was cute loved it but she had a bf, I became like her work bf for a few weeks. I remember one time on break when we were talking/flirting and she said something about me i cant remember but our co worker who was in the break room said her name outloud like secretly saying "hey you shouldnt be flirting with him you have a bf". Sadly I couldnt hold the frame long enough and she realized I wasnt "that guy" she pulled back like crazy, ignored me when i walked by, never talking to me again, basically avoiding me. Ill say this though, the frame shit was working 100%. Stand tall, walk strong, be confident, have calm good eye contact. Dont over react. Stay relaxed, speak deep and masculine. I gotta take my own advice lol.
She will not make a move bro.
There are different ways of doing stuff - even with revealing iinterest you can do it in a correct masculine way
calling her a 4' and a dummie, puuling her in, ordering her to sit on your lap (then asking why did she sat on your lap like she wants to make out, and that you are not that easy) putting her hand on your lap or chest (then slapping it away saying she's not allowed and need to ask or permission) , accusing her of staring at you bicep/chest/ass and be fake unhappy for being treated as a sexual object, and even then when she's gonna lean in acting like kissing her is the most disgusting thing you're about to do ...just multiple bait and switch in a row will show her you couldn't care less if she stands up and leave in a next second will make her want to kiss you and/or do whatever - all in all not taking it serious will prevent guy from having googly eyes and overly showing high interest
Not only do the game never end, they actually get worse.
And yes - women are far naughtier than men, they just need to make it so they can convince themselves they gave in due to the guy making her. It’s almost never the case.
How to make her naughty?
I accidentally did this with a girl because i wasnt entitely over my ex at the time. Held off on sex and intimacy entirely and it drove her insane
I have a crazy theory, and because iv implemented this guy's advices i never had sucess, i think he is sharing wrong and very controversial info so that he gets views and get his fans to fail with relationships so that they go and buy his course, i don't know but i just had this idea that i think its the case here.
Keep his ideas in the back of your head and watch their actions not their words. Don't take what Casey says as gospel for every single woman but a lot is useful to think about.
Nailed it, thanks!!
It depends on how long you e known her for….if you’ve known the girl 25 years and dated in the past….it’s different.
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Not really true. I’m in Brazil and if you basically don’t try to kiss the girl you definitely won’t see her again. And also I go for it on first date EVERYTIME because if she isn’t down she doesn’t like you and you should move on to the next
This dont make sense, it makes you look like that ultra respectfu nice guyl
You have absolutly right bro
Take it all in balance bro.
Again, you don’t have to sleep with every woman that throws themselves at you either. That’s really not giving a shit. That’s the ultimate validation, even if they call it off. They always come back , be different.
The desire for a relationship is a feminine desire not masculine desire
I totally agree with this man
Everyone in the comments are making this mistake in thinking: when you WANT to make a move but DONT, you look like a pussy. But if you dont make a move out of lack of interest, she assumes you have options and she becomes interested.
If boy want girl, girl loses interest. If boy loses interest, girl wants boy.
Nailed it!
I agree with everything you said, but I just dont understand a thing, how do I even begin to talk to a girl if I dont make the first move
You focus on your selfimprovement, maybe you do a little contact, but not much, enough to make them think about you a bit.
I agree it is just superhard to tell if they like you or not, I don't think they know themself, it is a lot of emotions but they also have some strange instincts that triggers their emotions. For example if another atractiv women talking to you, then you could level up 2p in 5 min and it is an attitudeshit you can't miss.
Then it dosn't stopp them from nagging and beeing a pain in a relationship 2 years down the road, when you wounder what they liked at all about you in the first place.
Complicated is the word.
Im a bit older maybe, but in my experience i always go for what i want, never regretted it. Strange advise , you wait till a woman take action? It s weak
I know this is a stupid but my question is, when is it the right moment to kiss a girl?
When it feels right and you lean in and she doesn't pull away. If she pulls away then she didn't like you anyway and you'll be wasting time. You can see it in their eyes. Takes practice.
@@r3v0lv3rz Thanks I appreciate comment.
Thanks, Casey
thank you Casey
Have to disagree. If you don't show any interest she will think there is no chemistry or attraction and move on to the next guy.
Disagree strongly with you on this video.. If you don't make a move on the first date she will percieve you as a BETA and not ALPHA. You have to be subtle yet still show intent and be in your maximum seductive frame.
Exactly
What should I do when these mistakes happen
I need yalls help, I was talking to this girl from school and we had a little conversation. So I invited her out and she had a few more questions like where we going and stuff and then she said “let’s see”
“Cus u never talk to me in school” ( I’ve talked to her like twice before) and that’s it. Should I actually talk to her or don’t show that I’m interested?
"Of course we can talk." And set the time an the place.
You can't loose, just win Knowledge if she is into you or not. If she decline just say "ok"
doesnt you being there on the date show interest?
It does lol idk about this vid
No. Because you aren’t sure if you are attracted to her until you meet her in person. And you get to know her better
@@georgekarpouzis6108 true but most likely u are if u seen her pic unless she looks nothing like
Always on time
I’m kinda feeling discouraged and disappointed in myself for messing up with a few dates I’ve had. I’ve never dated before so it’s new to me. Is it normal to feel like you lost the one you thought were perfect?
NONE of them are special UNLESS they think that you are special. STOP with the sunshine and rainbows, and start NOT giving a 'F'.
This is the worst kind of pain but you will learn how to be better the next time
@@carterboyfresh5989 this is the first girl I’ve ever dated, the only other times I’ve been with girls with when I was 18 and it just happened after the club. I’m 24 now and tried again, yeah it fucking hurts but I’m trying to learn from these mistakes to come back reinvented. Just think it’s going be hard to do all of this when I can’t feel like being myself
A few dates isn't enough time to know about anyone. In the beginning, people only show you their best and not the demons they struggle with. That's why it's a dangerous mindset to think any woman is perfect because none are. If a woman wants to be with you, great. If not, great, but getting fixated on any one woman often leads to despair.
Women are more attracted to men whose feelings are unclear…
Casey has not worked out this by himself, he has learnt it from other sources. No disrespect, I'm sure he has learned from his dating also.
Casey is more articulate, real, knowledgeable and convincing than Andrew Tate. It's from experience. Andrew Tate is a huge fake. He uses money, flamboyant lifestyle to attract gold diggers, and the guy looks confused and angry in interviews. It's like he is harbouring some bitterness.
from experience do not get too drunk on the first date you will regret it lol
Thanks unc