I’m under the impression that these men did care about Scott but with addicts and I’m speaking from experience, but with addicts you have to give them tough love.
I've tried for years to NOT listen to any interviews from the surviving members because like them, I lost a woman that I loved to no end due to cocaine addiction. The last straw was in 2012 and I just couldn't stand seeing her destroy herself but what was more sickening was her f'ing immediate family that didn't give a damn only who was going to get her social security. Cynthia died the year after we split for the third time as I just found out last year trying to find her. Robert, Eric and Dean...I can honestly say, "You cared."
This mad me cry so bad. They were so tight when things were good. Dean, Robert & Eric please remember the good times. He loved you all. The addiction was bigger than him or beyond what you could do to help. I just lost my bf 6 months ago to addiction so I fully understand. ❤❤❤
I remember feeling physically ill upon hearing about Scott's death not too far from where I live. I hope and pray he is at peace. It is good to see STP still going and Jeff Gutt is an excellent singer. In a mildly creepy way his voice reminds me *A LOT* of Scott Weiland...
STP was the walking talking real life example of a rocky up and down marriage that had a lot of stop and go. When the four of them were entact and running on all 4 cylinders, they sparked up some genuine magic. Their music from the 90s is still fresh and timeless to this day. Scott was undoubtedly doomed from the very beginning when he did his first slam with heroin. Fuck drugs man.
I always got the impression that these guys really tried to help him the best they could. But if you've read his book, heard Slash on the end of Velvet Revolver, or heard the stories that the DeLeo brothers told Opie and Anthony, there was just too many variables that just chipped away at Scott. It was not just the addiction, there was mental illness/bipolar disorder that practically went untreated, there was disillusionment, traumas and issues with his identity. I'll never know the guy, obviously; no one can, but like so many of us, he was his own enemy, and it hurts knowing that there was only way this was gonna go. Also, Cinnamon is the only good track from that last record. And it's meh.
Another excellent insight into Scott’s trouble life is his second wife’s book, Mary Forsberg ‘Fall to Pieces’, which I consider far superior to Weiland’s ‘Not Dead and Not for Sale’.
Yeah, they say these things but tossed him aside knowing he was spiraling, and not only that they refused to participate in a planned memorial concert in his honor.They used him and propped him up on tour just like everyone else as long as they could for the $$$
Scott did it for the money too. We have to take responsibility for ourselves. I got off drugs when I was ready. Nobody else would be able to do it for me. And nobody else was making me abuse myself.
He only made it this far because of them. If they wanted to just cash out,they would have kept him,pumped out albums,encouraged his drug fueled creativity for whatever it was worth,and rode him like a horse till he died..instead they stopped.even though it could have meant losing majority of fan base they chose to give him chance to hit bottom and maybe wake up. They lost money doing it the way they did..Idea of band victimizing him,as opposed to him doing it to himself,just not very likely, at best.
Hey good video. I was just wondering did Scott Weiland ever talk about Eddie Vedder. or did Eddie Vedder ever talk about Scott Weiland. or did they ever meet each other because they always say that they're similarities between the two and comparing their voices. I think they're different in my opinion. I was just wondering could you do a video on that.
The only thing that contributed to that comparison of Scott aping Eddie Vedder's voice or the band sounding too much like their contemporaries was all based on media outlets and journalism. Primarily because of "Plush" or "Dead and Bloated". The primary reason being that both bands were basically very much classic rock influenced with flannels. But because STP weren't based out of Seattle, like Smashing Pumpkins, they got the shaft. Especially when you have Ricky Rachtman from Head Bangers Ball making fun of them, the average listener made it the popular opinion. But that's the ripple effect on the band. They were negatively affected by that joke, so they naturally evolved - a little on Purple and a lot by Tiny Music. Hope that helps.
Fun Fact: Scott Weiland must've been pretty envious of the Seattle Four mantle. Because he was desperately trying to join Alice in Chains after Layne's death (at least a few years after). You can RUclips a show or two they did together (Scott and Jerry) and while it sounds cool, Jerry realized how bad of an idea it'd be to replace someone like Layne with someone suffering those very same issues. But on the flip side, the shit he did with Limp Bizkit was SO good, he was arguably close to being a member of Limp Bizkit. Say what you will, those tracks were bangin'.
I Do Think They Were Right On Everything Except On Keeping The Name/Brand Without The Force Of Nature Of A Genius Singer/Lyricist That Scott Was. I Do Believe Strongly That Instead Of Settling, Scott With The Lawsuit Should Have Prohibited Them To Oblivion To Keep The Name/Brand Without Him. Not To Point Out The Unethical, Egotistical Stand Of Their Action On Even Having That Thought, Carrying It On? I Will Never Hear In My Whole Life A Song/Album By STP Without Scott Weiland, Rather Cut An Ear Off .
I can't listen to that new album. There's nothing wrong with the new guy, Jeff; his impression and range is spectacular. But that new album doesn't represent anything resembling STP. They should've pulled an Army of Anyone like they did with Richard Patrick. Those acoustic ballads are just...ugh.
They wanted to preserve their career. Anyone who likes STP but doesn't closely follow everything that happens with them (which is most of their fanbase) wouldn't have known it was these 3 guys and likely wouldn't have given it a listen, so they would have gotten maybe 10% of the success they get with STP. The other guys contribute to the band just as much as Scott did, and 3/4 of them are still in the band, so in my opinion they more than earned the right to use the name. It's their band, just as much as it was Scott's, and saying otherwise is downright disrespectful to them. Also, as for their newer stuff not sounding like classic STP- in all honesty, it sounds like classic STP more than the last album they did with Scott did. The first self titled album was the one that didn't sound like them at all- but then nobody complained because it was Scott.
I don't begrudge them for continuing, but I just can't get into STP without Scott. I do wish they had shown a little more dignity and c!ass when firing him. There may have been no choice but they were really childish and petty about how they handled that. They should have shown Scott more empathy if anything. I know how difficult it is being in a band though so I understand it even if I think they handled it wrong.
@@Ariel_thenotsolittlemermaid Yeah, this person wanted Scott to go all Axle Rose on the other founding members of STP? Stop, that’s nonsense. All 4 of them were in it for the long haul; there wasn’t a plan-B! The remaining 3 members have every right to use STP name. In my humble opinion
It was awesome when they fired Scott and replaced him with a guy that sounded nothing like him and failed and then rehired him and were successful and then fired him and hired someone that sounded just like him
@@hps69 Tgey exploited Weiland as much as anyone else. They're still doing it by replacing him with someone that sounds so much like him that the casual listener wouldn't even know
@@ThatGuy-y2c Other bands have done it plenty of times in the past. Skid Row has, for example. Obviously it doesn't make it okay but that's what they decided was best for the band.
@@hps69 I just feel like it's disrespectful. If it were my band I would change the name at least given the tragic circumstances. It's not like the fans won't still come to see the band.
@@ThatGuy-y2c True, but that's the music business for you. I remember Scott fighting for the band name with his lawyers in 2013 back when the band had fired him. Too bad he never won. Any other band name other than Stone Temple Pilots wouldn't generate nearly as much fan revenue so it's a no brainer for them to keep it. In the end, it's easy to say they betrayed Scott and blamed it on his drug problem, but it's also hard to look past the fact that Scott couldn't get clean and the band couldn't really continue on with him. I miss all his talent and energy and wish he were still alive too. RIP
How about Dean two faced inner drug problems ! Where his wife just last year claimed to be a drug abusive partner .... oh yeah I think only Eric the drummer never had drug or drinking issues in life
C'mon! I see 3 musicians making a buck. Slash loved Scott and duff preferably chose him for velvet revolver vocalist because, Scott was a real and true artist and rock star! S.t.p. wouldn't have made it without him.
It's actually one of my three favorites of theirs. But it's definitely hard to live up to their classic period. Sad to know that the band and specifically Scott were disintegrating during the making of it. I saw them on the tour to support it and Scott was great. But I know things got a lot worse in the following years.
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Love that album. So many great songs. Nothing wrong with those vocals. Come on!
What a tragic loss
I’m under the impression that these men did care about Scott but with addicts and I’m speaking from experience, but with addicts you have to give them tough love.
At the show I was at a few days ago, they wished Scott a happy birthday on stage. They definitely cared.
I've tried for years to NOT listen to any interviews from the surviving members because like them, I lost a woman that I loved to no end due to cocaine addiction. The last straw was in 2012 and I just couldn't stand seeing her destroy herself but what was more sickening was her f'ing immediate family that didn't give a damn only who was going to get her social security.
Cynthia died the year after we split for the third time as I just found out last year trying to find her.
Robert, Eric and Dean...I can honestly say, "You cared."
This mad me cry so bad. They were so tight when things were good. Dean, Robert & Eric please remember the good times. He loved you all. The addiction was bigger than him or beyond what you could do to help. I just lost my bf 6 months ago to addiction so I fully understand. ❤❤❤
100% agree with you!!
I'm so very sorry for your tremendous loss 😔🙏. Peace be with you. I know I don't know you, but I wish you only the best 💯
@@SteveEFoxx-vx9yh thank you!! That is really kind of you. Really appreciate that ❤️ god bless you
@@TammyM36 don't mention it, God bless you as well!🙏
4:15 brought a tear to my face.
I know this feeling. Watching my father fall into drug addiction and death 6 years later...
That 6th album is one of my favorites. I love vocals.
I remember feeling physically ill upon hearing about Scott's death not too far from where I live. I hope and pray he is at peace. It is good to see STP still going and Jeff Gutt is an excellent singer. In a mildly creepy way his voice reminds me *A LOT* of Scott Weiland...
STP was the walking talking real life example of a rocky up and down marriage that had a lot of stop and go. When the four of them were entact and running on all 4 cylinders, they sparked up some genuine magic. Their music from the 90s is still fresh and timeless to this day. Scott was undoubtedly doomed from the very beginning when he did his first slam with heroin. Fuck drugs man.
Wow man fantastic video. Really deep. It's a shame so talented
"Maver" is one of Scotts best recordings.... beautiful song!
One of my favorites, its all constant vocal. So much singing!
To be honest great musician , o love their album core and I also like their style of music .
I always got the impression that these guys really tried to help him the best they could. But if you've read his book, heard Slash on the end of Velvet Revolver, or heard the stories that the DeLeo brothers told Opie and Anthony, there was just too many variables that just chipped away at Scott. It was not just the addiction, there was mental illness/bipolar disorder that practically went untreated, there was disillusionment, traumas and issues with his identity. I'll never know the guy, obviously; no one can, but like so many of us, he was his own enemy, and it hurts knowing that there was only way this was gonna go.
Also, Cinnamon is the only good track from that last record. And it's meh.
Another excellent insight into Scott’s trouble life is his second wife’s book, Mary Forsberg ‘Fall to Pieces’, which I consider far superior to Weiland’s ‘Not Dead and Not for Sale’.
@@MatteoPrezioso I always wanted to read that. I just never saw it around. How is it?
Poor guy, he was a living example that money doesn’t buy happiness.
Its so sad that Scott couldnt see the road he was on and try to get some help.
He saw it. RIP to a legend. gone but never forgotten.
Yeah, they say these things but tossed him aside knowing he was spiraling, and not only that they refused to participate in a planned memorial concert in his honor.They used him and propped him up on tour just like everyone else as long as they could for the $$$
Scott did it for the money too. We have to take responsibility for ourselves. I got off drugs when I was ready. Nobody else would be able to do it for me. And nobody else was making me abuse myself.
He only made it this far because of them. If they wanted to just cash out,they would have kept him,pumped out albums,encouraged his drug fueled creativity for whatever it was worth,and rode him like a horse till he died..instead they stopped.even though it could have meant losing majority of fan base they chose to give him chance to hit bottom and maybe wake up. They lost money doing it the way they did..Idea of band victimizing him,as opposed to him doing it to himself,just not very likely, at best.
What a nimrod take. Heroin addiction gets brutal.
Hey good video. I was just wondering did Scott Weiland ever talk about Eddie Vedder. or did Eddie Vedder ever talk about Scott Weiland. or did they ever meet each other because they always say that they're similarities between the two and comparing their voices. I think they're different in my opinion. I was just wondering could you do a video on that.
The only thing that contributed to that comparison of Scott aping Eddie Vedder's voice or the band sounding too much like their contemporaries was all based on media outlets and journalism. Primarily because of "Plush" or "Dead and Bloated".
The primary reason being that both bands were basically very much classic rock influenced with flannels. But because STP weren't based out of Seattle, like Smashing Pumpkins, they got the shaft. Especially when you have Ricky Rachtman from Head Bangers Ball making fun of them, the average listener made it the popular opinion.
But that's the ripple effect on the band. They were negatively affected by that joke, so they naturally evolved - a little on Purple and a lot by Tiny Music.
Hope that helps.
Fun Fact: Scott Weiland must've been pretty envious of the Seattle Four mantle. Because he was desperately trying to join Alice in Chains after Layne's death (at least a few years after). You can RUclips a show or two they did together (Scott and Jerry) and while it sounds cool, Jerry realized how bad of an idea it'd be to replace someone like Layne with someone suffering those very same issues.
But on the flip side, the shit he did with Limp Bizkit was SO good, he was arguably close to being a member of Limp Bizkit. Say what you will, those tracks were bangin'.
Aye man Ur not playin that right👉🍗☠🍺
I Do Think They Were Right On Everything Except On Keeping The Name/Brand Without The Force Of Nature Of A Genius Singer/Lyricist That Scott Was. I Do Believe Strongly That Instead Of Settling, Scott With The Lawsuit Should Have Prohibited Them To Oblivion To Keep The Name/Brand Without Him. Not To Point Out The Unethical, Egotistical Stand Of Their Action On Even Having That Thought, Carrying It On? I Will Never Hear In My Whole Life A Song/Album By STP Without Scott Weiland, Rather Cut An Ear Off .
Absolutely agree 💯
I can't listen to that new album. There's nothing wrong with the new guy, Jeff; his impression and range is spectacular. But that new album doesn't represent anything resembling STP. They should've pulled an Army of Anyone like they did with Richard Patrick. Those acoustic ballads are just...ugh.
They wanted to preserve their career. Anyone who likes STP but doesn't closely follow everything that happens with them (which is most of their fanbase) wouldn't have known it was these 3 guys and likely wouldn't have given it a listen, so they would have gotten maybe 10% of the success they get with STP. The other guys contribute to the band just as much as Scott did, and 3/4 of them are still in the band, so in my opinion they more than earned the right to use the name. It's their band, just as much as it was Scott's, and saying otherwise is downright disrespectful to them.
Also, as for their newer stuff not sounding like classic STP- in all honesty, it sounds like classic STP more than the last album they did with Scott did. The first self titled album was the one that didn't sound like them at all- but then nobody complained because it was Scott.
I don't begrudge them for continuing, but I just can't get into STP without Scott. I do wish they had shown a little more dignity and c!ass when firing him. There may have been no choice but they were really childish and petty about how they handled that. They should have shown Scott more empathy if anything. I know how difficult it is being in a band though so I understand it even if I think they handled it wrong.
@@Ariel_thenotsolittlemermaid Yeah, this person wanted Scott to go all Axle Rose on the other founding members of STP? Stop, that’s nonsense. All 4 of them were in it for the long haul; there wasn’t a plan-B! The remaining 3 members have every right to use STP name. In my humble opinion
It was awesome when they fired Scott and replaced him with a guy that sounded nothing like him and failed and then rehired him and were successful and then fired him and hired someone that sounded just like him
At least now they're doing alright now with the new singer Jeff Gutt. Obviously he's no Weiland but he's still pretty good.
@@hps69 Tgey exploited Weiland as much as anyone else. They're still doing it by replacing him with someone that sounds so much like him that the casual listener wouldn't even know
@@ThatGuy-y2c Other bands have done it plenty of times in the past. Skid Row has, for example. Obviously it doesn't make it okay but that's what they decided was best for the band.
@@hps69 I just feel like it's disrespectful. If it were my band I would change the name at least given the tragic circumstances. It's not like the fans won't still come to see the band.
@@ThatGuy-y2c True, but that's the music business for you. I remember Scott fighting for the band name with his lawyers in 2013 back when the band had fired him. Too bad he never won. Any other band name other than Stone Temple Pilots wouldn't generate nearly as much fan revenue so it's a no brainer for them to keep it. In the end, it's easy to say they betrayed Scott and blamed it on his drug problem, but it's also hard to look past the fact that Scott couldn't get clean and the band couldn't really continue on with him. I miss all his talent and energy and wish he were still alive too. RIP
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still surreal s.w
is no longer with us all.!
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How about Dean two faced inner drug problems ! Where his wife just last year claimed to be a drug abusive partner .... oh yeah I think only Eric the drummer never had drug or drinking issues in life
I'm. Glad. He. Left. The. Best. Of him. Before. Whatever. Got. The. Worst. Of him. He. Will. Always. Be. S t p. 💥💯💯💥💥💥💫💫💫💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
C'mon! I see 3 musicians making a buck. Slash loved Scott and duff preferably chose him for velvet revolver vocalist because, Scott was a real and true artist and rock star! S.t.p. wouldn't have made it without him.
Drugs man Smh. You guys souñd like Mick and Keith talking about Brian Jones.
their worst album by far...
It's actually one of my three favorites of theirs. But it's definitely hard to live up to their classic period. Sad to know that the band and specifically Scott were disintegrating during the making of it. I saw them on the tour to support it and Scott was great. But I know things got a lot worse in the following years.
I like it better than Shangri La, which is their worst with Scott IMO.
The vocals were not satisfactory the music suckdd Scott's melodies made it catchy
I have to agree, the music wasn’t really satisfactory either outside of Maver. Scott did the best he could with those sub par instrumentals.
Core best album ever!!!!