Will More Russians Fall Out Of Windows Soon?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024

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  • @INSIDERUSSIA
    @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад +35

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    • @Grace.allovertheplace
      @Grace.allovertheplace Месяц назад +3

      Thank you 🙏

    • @femerch1
      @femerch1 Месяц назад

      Em 😊 pop

    • @mike4480
      @mike4480 Месяц назад +4

      Thanks “ Inside Russia “ for the update and your insight into Russian history / thinking … 💙💛💙

    • @Grace.allovertheplace
      @Grace.allovertheplace Месяц назад +1

      Hi, 7:14 everything you’ve said, made me think off these 2 known sayings👇:
      1. *”Open door policy, on steroids!”*
      2. *”Don’t let the door hit you in your aß on your way out the window!”*
      Respectfully, Grace 🫡🩰

    • @czarekp3552
      @czarekp3552 Месяц назад +1

      You're wrong about why they're flying.... Rich, powerful, especially young ones want to enjoy their riches, but without changing the regime, only place they can do it is Russia. That's why Putin is scared of them and teaches them how to fly

  • @manxkin
    @manxkin Месяц назад +149

    Moral of the story. Never ask for a room with a view.

  • @Ptolemy336VV
    @Ptolemy336VV Месяц назад +105

    In Russia, windows arent build anymore since 2022

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Месяц назад

      2017* google it.

    • @johnbui6530
      @johnbui6530 Месяц назад +4

      @@Ptolemy336VV 😂

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад +3

      Nah they just ran out of safety catches ...the guy who fitted them was sent to the Ukraine.😂

    • @ridethecurve55
      @ridethecurve55 Месяц назад

      K, I'd like you to have a Part 2 for this topic. Do you have any opinion on if this way of sociopolitical power can be broken? The country will not move forward unless it is, but what do you think about how this would come about?

  • @michaeldwyer9656
    @michaeldwyer9656 Месяц назад +36

    "Fell out of a basement window" Thank you, Konstantin! I am really in need of a hearty laugh! I hope you don't mind if I "borrow" the phrase.

  • @mirsadmasinovic5726
    @mirsadmasinovic5726 Месяц назад +37

    Thank You
    I'm in USA from Bosnia but listening You most of the times

    • @TerryWindell
      @TerryWindell Месяц назад +5

      American here: honored to have you among us.

  • @user-xl6mg1tm7s
    @user-xl6mg1tm7s Месяц назад +60

    On 10 March 1948 Jan Masaryk, who served as the Foreign Minister of Czechoslovakia from 1940 to 1948, was found dead, dressed only in his pajamas, in the courtyard of the Foreign Ministry (the Černín Palace in Prague) below his bathroom window.
    The Ministry of the Interior claimed that he had committed suicide by jumping out of the window, but at the time, it was widely assumed that he was murdered at the behest of the nascent Communist government.[42][47][48] On the other hand, many of his close associates (e.g. his secretary Antonín Sum, his press assistant Josef Josten, his sister Olga or Viktor Fischl) have always defended the suicide story.[citation needed][49][50]
    In a second investigation taken in 1968 during the Prague Spring, Masaryk's death was ruled an accident, not excluding a murder[51] and a third investigation in the early 1990s after the Velvet Revolution concluded that it had been a murder.
    In his 1981 autobiography History and Memory, US Ambassador Charles W. Yost, a friend of Masaryk who worked with him in Prague in 1947, and also a friend of Masaryk's fiancée Marcia Davenport, wrote, "The Communists used him and, when his usefulness was past, flung him out of a window to his death."
    Discussions about the mysterious circumstances of his death continued for some time.[47] Those who believe that Masaryk was murdered called it the Third (or Fourth) Defenestration of Prague, and point to the presence of nail marks on the window sill from which Masaryk fell, as well as smearings of feces and Masaryk's stated intention to leave Prague the next day for London. Members of Masaryk's family-including his former wife, Frances Crane Leatherbee, a former in-law named Sylvia E. Crane, and his sister Alice Masaryková - stated their belief that he had indeed killed himself, according to a letter written by Sylvia E. Crane to The New York Times, and considered the possibility of murder a "cold war cliché".[52][53] However, a Prague police report in 2004 concluded after forensic research that Masaryk had indeed been thrown out of the window to his death.[54] This report was seemingly corroborated in 2006 when a Russian journalist claimed that his mother knew the Russian intelligence officer who threw Masaryk out of the window of the west bathroom of Masaryk's flat.[55][56]
    The highest-ranking Soviet Bloc intelligence defector, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, claimed he had a conversation with Nicolae Ceauşescu, who told him about "ten international leaders the Kremlin killed or tried to kill". Jan Masaryk was one of them.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Месяц назад +5

      It is called defenestration - it is well known since the early Middle Ages ...

  • @denillefleming2942
    @denillefleming2942 Месяц назад +64

    The oligarchs are fighting over the grift

  • @ViperOptix
    @ViperOptix Месяц назад +27

    haha When a door closes for you a window opens up. This needs to be a shirt.

  • @sharonlavery7656
    @sharonlavery7656 Месяц назад +43

    Konstantin, where did the money go after all those mega rich men "fell out of windows" ??
    Thats what I would be interested in finding out

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 Месяц назад +6

      Indeed. But how would one even go about finding such things out?

    • @johnnymatias3027
      @johnnymatias3027 Месяц назад +11

      He explains that it disappears. He implies the state takes it back and it ends up in their black budget or redistributed.

    • @shirleyhaugaard9643
      @shirleyhaugaard9643 Месяц назад +4

      I am pretty sure Putler knows exactly where all the gold and the money is

  • @ZxLayER
    @ZxLayER Месяц назад +37

    KGB has been very busy 24/7. KGB business expanding to windows, kitchen, food, stairs.

    • @jaywu2856
      @jaywu2856 Месяц назад +1

      FSB?

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake Месяц назад

      @@jaywu2856 Cheka, KGB, FSB - All the same organisation,
      just with different slogans.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 Месяц назад +5

      Cheka
      OGPU
      GPU
      NKVD
      KGB
      FSB... nothing changes

  • @normandduern2413
    @normandduern2413 Месяц назад +27

    Interesting social-science hypothesis you present here : As a repressive regime comes nearer to collapse, the more often it resorts to defenestration (or equivalent). It’s especially interesting because the next few years should provide us with new evidence as to its validity. I also concur with your observation that when a regime starts down this path there is no turning back; it cannot afford to let up, it can only double down on an already bad bet. That is always the logic of bad gamblers, and I have a nominee for the title of Modern History’s Worst Gambler; his initials are V. V. P.
    So, Carthago defenestranda est? (OK, that’s not real Latin, real I made it up. Couldn’t resist). Dominus tecum and bon courage.

  • @nonubusiness
    @nonubusiness Месяц назад +25

    In Soviet Russia, you don't do windows. Windows, do you.

    • @jpalan
      @jpalan Месяц назад +1

      Happened in the west too yesterday when the computers started crashing. Just not in the Russian style.

  • @Tom-xw5xe
    @Tom-xw5xe Месяц назад +27

    You are right on track.

  • @thomaselliot2257
    @thomaselliot2257 Месяц назад +29

    I appreciate all that you do, including the time and effort you put in into tonight's (my time) show, and with the poignant and eloquent conclusion of your message.

  • @adammacdonald5332
    @adammacdonald5332 Месяц назад +10

    Around minute 30, I realized this might potentially explain the disappearance of 1 of my most epic relatives. Fluent in Russian and English. Incredible wealthy
    Gorgeous mansion in Michigan, USA, like 20 years ago. Did much work in Russia, stayed mostly in America. Was in finances. Had clout, gravitas, and a wicked sense of humor. She was named Barbara, and she was almost certainly a victim of the system in Russia. She had authority and connections, if she was dirty, we didn't notice it.

  • @petebeatminister
    @petebeatminister Месяц назад +13

    Old traditions never die.

  • @ehawolczecki8759
    @ehawolczecki8759 Месяц назад +22

    They all knew too much .

  • @Mark4Jesus
    @Mark4Jesus Месяц назад +13

    I was keeping track of Putin’s victims until last year when I couldn’t keep up anymore.

  • @anelifloris5980
    @anelifloris5980 Месяц назад +26

    When I was reading Daniil Kharms' stories with people falling from windows in mass, I thought it was funny exaggeration. Turns out it was real in Russia

    • @heraklesnothercules.
      @heraklesnothercules. Месяц назад

      *"en masse". It's Latin, but produced (almost - replace "in" with "on") as you have written it. 🙂

  • @JUSTTERRY0
    @JUSTTERRY0 Месяц назад +37

    WELL PUT TOGETHER STREAM K . YOU LOOK MORE COMFORTABLE EACH TIME. I GUESS IT'S YOUR HARD WORK AND EXPERIENCE SHOWING 👍❤️

    • @INSIDERUSSIA
      @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад +6

      thank you Terry

    • @allisonmarlow184
      @allisonmarlow184 Месяц назад +2

      Hi there! My brand new phone isn't allowing me to chat in this channel's Livestreams. I couldn't say hello back! Hello!

    • @JUSTTERRY0
      @JUSTTERRY0 Месяц назад

      @@allisonmarlow184 hello my friend l hope you get your phone straightened out for the next live stream 👍

    • @INSIDERUSSIA
      @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад +1

      @@allisonmarlow184 hello Allison!

    • @nolaserv
      @nolaserv Месяц назад

      @@allisonmarlow184 I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR with no audio or video! Keep up the good work K.

  • @TheGreatWhiteScout
    @TheGreatWhiteScout Месяц назад +9

    "Transferred to the Ministry of Defenestration" was the term I always heard.

  • @user-mg1rn9gm7u
    @user-mg1rn9gm7u Месяц назад +21

    THANK YOU!!

    • @caprifolia1
      @caprifolia1 Месяц назад +1

      Dear Konstantin, thank you for your truthfull programs. Stay safe and God bless you and your family! Greetings from Finland

  • @PanamaSticks
    @PanamaSticks Месяц назад +1

    So sorry to hear of your troubles. My sister-in law came into the USA from Venezuela. It was VERY difficult. Will pray for you.

  • @davidfell9083
    @davidfell9083 Месяц назад +12

    Thanks for all that. I think you are absolutely right.

  • @justsomeguyinnc473
    @justsomeguyinnc473 Месяц назад +55

    A joke in the USA is about how low windows are built in Russia: They need to change the building code so the windows are built higher in the walls. This will help prevent Russians from falling out of the windows.

    • @ellenpearce6885
      @ellenpearce6885 Месяц назад +2

      Still in danger from those basement windows!

  • @2coryman
    @2coryman Месяц назад +10

    Konstantin stay safe from the Russian mafia

  • @Gabaja21
    @Gabaja21 Месяц назад +8

    Thanks for another calm and informative analysis. Glad you’re feeling brighter today, although you may rely somewhat on the income from your posts you’ve got to care of yourself and your family first, everything else is secondary. Sending virtual hugs to you and all those suffering from displacement on this increasingly uncertain small green blue planet we exist on.

  • @patrickdonohue530
    @patrickdonohue530 Месяц назад +3

    In March of 1991, at a reception in Moscow, Ian Shapiro, Sterling Professor of Political Science at Yale, spoke with Professor Vadim Zagladin, first deputy director international department of the Soviet Communist Party's Central Committee & asked, “When did you conclude that the Soviet Union was unsustainable? Zagladin replied, “1978”.

  • @MamaDisco1313
    @MamaDisco1313 Месяц назад +3

    “Learning to fly but I ain’t got wings. Coming down is the hardest thing!”

  • @Ernestsgirl1
    @Ernestsgirl1 Месяц назад +2

    Don't ever be sorry for your feelings. I watch you every day and what you say is bang on the money.
    I'm hoping that things will improve for you. From our UK family to yours. Sending good vibes ❤

  • @1tundra11
    @1tundra11 Месяц назад +42

    I'm surprised they just don't get a ticket to go to the front lines in Ukraine

    • @marcinwozniak2780
      @marcinwozniak2780 Месяц назад +16

      It's elementary: they could survive or even worse, get captured by Ukrainians and share their knowledge. A window in a high-rise building is much safer solution... ;-)

    • @Only.D.G.
      @Only.D.G. Месяц назад +4

      @@1tundra11 Rule #1 for dictators: don't arm the opposition

  • @djparn007
    @djparn007 Месяц назад +8

    Fascinating. Thank you, Konstantin. 👍

  • @scrambler69-xk3kv
    @scrambler69-xk3kv Месяц назад +3

    I have often wondered how bad it must get in Russia before Putin is shown the view from the upstairs window. They will not have any young men left. I just am curious as to whether the Russian citizens will ever know the truth.

  • @KiviK-d7w
    @KiviK-d7w Месяц назад +12

    ❤ From. Helsinki Finland

  • @user-ni1gi8gr9d
    @user-ni1gi8gr9d Месяц назад +14

    So, what are the chances that the still living Cleptocrats start thinking very hard about how to survive WITH the stolen money? They must see the writing on the wall.

  • @brianday67
    @brianday67 Месяц назад +2

    Konstantin introduced a new English tongue twister. Black box budget.

  • @JohnViinalass-lc1ow
    @JohnViinalass-lc1ow Месяц назад +3

    and thank you, good broadcast team, for these productions

    • @INSIDERUSSIA
      @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад

      Good broadcast team? What team??

    • @nancymilawski1048
      @nancymilawski1048 Месяц назад

      All three of you.
      This is an old English joke: when asked "who helped" I answer "Me, Myself and I" - all three of me.
      (I'm Canadian)

  • @annerigby4400
    @annerigby4400 Месяц назад +9

    Your descriptions of what the USSR did with the party money sounds a lot like what North Korea does...... I wonder if China does that too.
    And yes, I think you are spot on.

  • @genelefevers3035
    @genelefevers3035 Месяц назад +7

    Stay away from windows !!!

  • @ngreen1596
    @ngreen1596 Месяц назад +1

    I think some people feel out of windows early in the Ukraine war. I certainly think defenestration is a symptom of instability in Russia.

  • @westernkingi9157
    @westernkingi9157 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for your reporting. Listening from Nz.

  • @JustMrMikeO
    @JustMrMikeO Месяц назад +11

    @INSIDERUSSIA. Hi Konstantine my friend. I haven’t been on for a while because I’m going through a very difficult and stressful time, both financially and physically. I was wondering if you could put my son and I , Mike&Mike, on your prayer list, we would be so appreciative. God Bless you for all the good you spread. 😊

  • @dennisbarber4614
    @dennisbarber4614 Месяц назад +5

    Thanks for the work you do!!!!

  • @DownUndaDigga
    @DownUndaDigga Месяц назад +1

    What intrigues me is that these people must be entirely aware of the potential danger they are in and yet do not (it appears)disappear into the mist.

  • @bluecedar7914
    @bluecedar7914 Месяц назад +4

    56:00 Shame. Australia could use more people like you, and most of us would welcome you. The immigration authorities would admittedly make you jump through quite a few hoops these days.

  • @royolsson9827
    @royolsson9827 Месяц назад +9

    Good stream Konstantin

  • @cailwi9
    @cailwi9 Месяц назад +4

    Thanks!

    • @INSIDERUSSIA
      @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад

      Thank you, Friend! Much needed and very appreciated!

  • @briansutherland3457
    @briansutherland3457 Месяц назад +4

    You are a very smart man. Keep it up appreciate all the talks

  • @williambrown5966
    @williambrown5966 Месяц назад +4

    Your dedication is superb

  • @d.k.6335
    @d.k.6335 Месяц назад +2

    It's sad to hear that even your children don't get any help at the US embassy. Are you sure that there is no possibility to complain officially i.e. directly at the state department or just address directly the ambassador??? I recall scenes in Kabul when US passport holders were turned away at the airport ... As you don't have the same urgency I would try it again and again until you get somebody who is helpful.

  • @angelparreno2483
    @angelparreno2483 Месяц назад +2

    Windows fitted very poorly cowboy builders 😂

  • @samirakarakus2637
    @samirakarakus2637 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Constantine ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉💙💙💙❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙👏👏

  • @libertarianPinoy
    @libertarianPinoy Месяц назад +4

    Is it me or are the commercials are a lot more numerous and annoying now?

  • @JohnOrtynsky
    @JohnOrtynsky Месяц назад +1

    You are absolutely right on. Thanks again for explaining the situation in a manner that everyone can understand!

  • @sptuuri
    @sptuuri Месяц назад +2

    Excellent observations.

  • @RandHerbert
    @RandHerbert Месяц назад +1

    Very interesting, Konstantin. Thanks for the update.

  • @andrejvilc866
    @andrejvilc866 Месяц назад

    You are completely right!

  • @govindagovindaji4662
    @govindagovindaji4662 Месяц назад +1

    I have a few questions that I am really hoping Konstantin will answer for me. I am so baffled by Russians that it is difficult to know 'how' to ask exactly, but I will try. By no means should these questions imply that I think Russians have small intellects. I think that the citizens of Russia who protest publicly knowing that they might easily be arrested are the most self-sacrificing, bravest people I can imagine. #1) Do 'most' like at least 80% of Russian adults 'know' that they are quite seriously 'oppressed' and that this is not a state a human should have to exist in? #2) What is the coming of age that a Russian learns this terrible fact? Do parents have to give children 'the talk' and explain to be careful what they say or do in public? #3) Do you have to worry about neighbors 'turning you in' if you speak out against the autocracy and oligarchy that is Russia today? #4) What percent of adults in Russia know that there are more fair (not perfect) type systems of government in the world? #5) Even before the horrific invasion of Ukraine but especially since, how do the thousands of young people who show up to Putin's rallies and press conferences justify their immense support of Putin? A man who would put them in jail if they even simply spoke a few words publicly in opposition to the vulgar positioning of himself as the autocrat and dictator he is? #4) What percent of Russians 'can see through' what happened to Navalny? That he was killed? Of these, how do they view it? Thank you for any insight.

  • @chrisdoyl272doyle3
    @chrisdoyl272doyle3 Месяц назад +1

    You are right on on all aspects Thanks great blog !!

  • @spinecat
    @spinecat Месяц назад +5

    your work is irreplaceable. Keep it up.

  • @elisabethnygaard8525
    @elisabethnygaard8525 Месяц назад +8

    Defenestration- the Russian specialty 😮

  • @iam5085
    @iam5085 Месяц назад +2

    Love the title "window of opportunity"

  • @sallypursell1284
    @sallypursell1284 Месяц назад +3

    I watch a lot, too. I never seem to be available for your livestreams. Thanks you, yet again.

  • @Sven-ErikJohansson-tn6hx
    @Sven-ErikJohansson-tn6hx Месяц назад +4

    Big Big hug! SE. Take care

  • @charlesbeaudry3263
    @charlesbeaudry3263 Месяц назад

    Yes Bill Browder explained it very well in his book Freezing Order. Exactly the way Konstantine says.

  • @waynefoxjr8348
    @waynefoxjr8348 Месяц назад +4

    Love your style ❤ thanks for sharing this info ! wow things sure do happen when needed don’t they.

  • @satsuki8773
    @satsuki8773 Месяц назад +3

    Sorry for not catching the Live, was busy to day, I only caught the prayer, God bless you K ❤

  • @JoAnnaDale
    @JoAnnaDale Месяц назад +2

    Thank you, from Seattle.

  • @brendankenny1332
    @brendankenny1332 Месяц назад +1

    Phew!!! I only live in a single story shed!!!!

  • @MaryRogan-ok1ci
    @MaryRogan-ok1ci Месяц назад +3

    FELL OUT OF BASEMENT WINDOW 😂

  • @arthurvandervelde
    @arthurvandervelde Месяц назад +2

    An old saying in the English language referring to early warning, and based in fact is 'canary in the coalmine'.

  • @ianbray5946
    @ianbray5946 Месяц назад +3

    You are spot on 👌 Mr K

  • @steveeuphrates-river7342
    @steveeuphrates-river7342 Месяц назад

    Thank you K! You give us insights we can't get anywhere else!

  • @mossion
    @mossion Месяц назад

    MY GRANDMA USED TO SAY. NOTHING GOOD LASTS FOREVER. NOTHING BAD LASTS FOREVER

  • @GreenGibbon
    @GreenGibbon Месяц назад

    For the English language buffs: "Defenestration" is the technical term for "windowed". A wonderful word! Comes from "fenestra", Latin for window - specifically, "an opening in the wall". 🙂

  • @Douglas.Scott.McCarron
    @Douglas.Scott.McCarron Месяц назад +2

    I think you need to make sure you have no windows in your house.

  • @aefbNone
    @aefbNone Месяц назад

    Very interesting and curious indeed, Konstantin. Tanks again so much. I had no idea the windows were related to oil factorys!

  • @Vargsohn
    @Vargsohn Месяц назад +8

    7:20 You mean chairmen of the bored ? :D
    (inside Joke)

  • @lightkeeper609
    @lightkeeper609 Месяц назад +1

    Hahaha windows and tea are the most common culprits in russia.

  • @MaryRogan-ok1ci
    @MaryRogan-ok1ci Месяц назад

    SPOT ON!

  • @daeshbagcentral5298
    @daeshbagcentral5298 Месяц назад

    That's so illuminating.... About the windows 😮

  • @MaryRogan-ok1ci
    @MaryRogan-ok1ci Месяц назад

    Spot on!

  • @CheeseLovingGuy
    @CheeseLovingGuy Месяц назад +1

    You sound so sad and in pain nowadays. I know you have explained why and it all makes sense. But it still pains me to hear especially when i know you have such a big kind heart.
    Life eh !

  • @helenoscari3276
    @helenoscari3276 Месяц назад

    Hello from Australia
    I enjoy your channel very much. You should coin your statement “door closes, window opens”.
    I never comment but today I really enjoyed your topic. Thank you.

  • @carlloeber
    @carlloeber Месяц назад +2

    Where did you learn all this Kontantin ?

    • @INSIDERUSSIA
      @INSIDERUSSIA  Месяц назад +1

      Where did I learn? I read, think and keep my eyes open

  • @TonyStuckless-ip3vj
    @TonyStuckless-ip3vj Месяц назад +1

    Konstatin, I appreciate your posts. It has to be hard on you.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Месяц назад

    “Money laundering” is the term you were looking for. For the Soviet Party’s money, “coffers” was the term you were looking for.

  • @KM-vc2yp
    @KM-vc2yp Месяц назад +2

    I think you’re spot on

  • @palithaassalaarachchi1497
    @palithaassalaarachchi1497 Месяц назад +1

    Putin calls them windows of opportunity.

  • @williamwolslegel9535
    @williamwolslegel9535 Месяц назад +7

    I like this guy.

  • @markwyman821
    @markwyman821 Месяц назад +6

    VERY INTERESTING SHOW TODAY, LIKED IT VERY MUCH..

  • @celestep157
    @celestep157 Месяц назад +2

    Yes I always like my time spent with you . Thank you .

  • @keithglenicenewton3817
    @keithglenicenewton3817 Месяц назад

    Right on bro

  • @CheeseLovingGuy
    @CheeseLovingGuy Месяц назад +3

    Prince Harry even had to jump hoops to be able to live in the USA.

  • @KCBRYAN_1525
    @KCBRYAN_1525 Месяц назад +3

    He’s a window dropper,either being pushed or thinking he can fly.50 rubles!!
    Russias version of 50 cent lol

  • @davidmcguren3225
    @davidmcguren3225 Месяц назад

    Anyone can listen to an honourable man, few will understand his message, your on point Constantine, huge b+lls bro, brave stuff 👍

  • @colindunbar3879
    @colindunbar3879 Месяц назад +2

    All sounds logical, Constantin.

  • @michael_mack
    @michael_mack Месяц назад +1

    Very interesting video. Thanks for your work on YT. Greetings from Poland.

  • @kurze114
    @kurze114 Месяц назад +3

    Greetings from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Roger

  • @krillanr
    @krillanr Месяц назад

    I'd hope that you focus on your health first bud. We'll be around when you feel up to streaming. I look forward to your insight no matter how frequently, or how rarely it comes.