Dear Red States, We want a divorce. It's not us, it's you. Please don't feel bad. You're going to make some dictator really happy someday. I'm sure of it. Love, California PS: We're taking the Northeast and PacWest with us. You can keep the dog, he won't stop grabbing the neighbor's kitty anyway.
Dear California, I would love this. The US would lose 55 democratic electoral votes. That would make is nearly impossible for a democrat to become president. I know it. Thanks for the idea, Red States PS: Taking the Northeast and PacWest would make things 1000% easier.
In 2015 California contributed $405 billion dollars to federal tax revenue, but we only received 58 billion dollars federal funds, basically about 86% of our tax went to subsidize dead beat red states, California just surpassed French to be the 6th largest economy in the world, can you imagine how much can be done if we keep all of our tax money to California instead?
Us California's, would love to break off from the rest of the US. We don't like Trump at all, we believe in Unity and brotherly love with all immigrants, race and nationalities.
+ShadowSlayer That would make California martyrs. Inevitably causing greater problems. None of this is worth it. Cali shouldn't succeed because we need them, and while they could self sustain it would cost way to much. None of it is worth it.
They have every right to harbor illegal/undocumented immigrants if they wish... So long as they're willing to give up federal funding, to continue doing so.
want fed money? Follow fed law. Its really simple. Cali can always leave if they want. Wont be getting that water and military protection. Join Mexico.
Just think California has SIXTY times the population of s smaller state like Wyoming yet both states get two senators. Talk about taxation without representation.
PaddyCollector - and far fewer electoral votes so that other states could get a minimum of electoral votes. If CA actually got electoral votes based on population, there would be a lot more votes for CA.
How is a landlocked state suppose to compete with a state with the ability to import. Those landlocked states supply 98% of their food. China manufacturing and Saudi oil all comes through Cali. We got 3 other west coast states who would love to be Americas west coast port.
I am seeing parallels of that phoney bald man threating his entire family if he dose not attack Iran..yes you can always trust the secret waist of money service to isreal.......hey...did you know Admiral George Morrison calls for economic and military attack on Israel after Tel-Aviv conducts false flag attack on USS Liberty...and Jim Morrison of the doors solved his own murder in advance.....Look what he is holding in the florida concert...you are all slaves...remember...now that nsa and cia know the world knows...James D Morrision was killed by Gods loving people....Jews..Isreal!!!! Look how many coward americans did nothing.......
Except permission from the United States. We would have to go to Civil War 2.0 if you have a chance of leaving. And it would be over in less than a day.
cali has been a long time liberal state ;) but come on democrat or republican they are all the same. don't think so ? ok then go back 50 year's what has every congress said ? every president said ? ok let me give it a shot they all said secure the boarder right ? and yet nothing has been done other then it has got worse then we have every issue is the other party blocked us and that's why we can't do anything (just a blame game from day one of the same so called founding father's wanted a small group to control it it look at now if you use you're mind you will see we are all fucked until people stop playing party or race or wealth crap. until then we are all still slave's ! (only fool's think only black people was slave's in america and only white people own slave's ) time to wake the sheep up even if they don't agree with us
I'm a progressive blue-collar South Carolina resident, i thought there were more like minded rational people in the south, but sometimes I feel like I'm behind enemy lines here. Despite the loud mouthed majority that tend to drown us out, I promise there are southerners who value education and deplore racism. Please don't give up on us.
The Dx Gamer Show California's economy is somewhat a house of cards. It has high real estate, agriculture which will immediately die once they leave due to zero water, Hollywood etc. that will all collapse once they leave
+non yobussiness you're wrong. California feeds most of the country so California could literally starve the country if that were the case. with that being said they would still sell/trade with the U.S because no one wins in that Scanario.
John Blake how about illegal Russian mafiosos. I don't hear devil trump saying much about that. because he goes to bed with them. have you heard of the Russian mafia, human trafficking, drug trade. sorry the Russian mafia, they are not Mexican.
Aggiesgigem lol me and my friends talk about how funny it would be. Ok so we were saying like California would ban all guns even for the cops 👮 right. So the cops would just have sticks with the word no on them and they would point them at people yelling "no, no stop it no" but they wouldn't actually be able to touch the person. You know just stupid ass shit.
monster dubstep Tell that to the Trump supporters that have been beaten by rioters. They drew first blood. Plus the amount of criminals in California, it's just better to kill all of them instead of deporting them. Also, yes. Carpet bombing would work nicely.
Arathorn Dezeus an asset is property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies. or a useful or valuable, thing, person, or thing. last I checked Boeing was a company (a thing) producing things
california does not need federal funding. among richest places per capita california as just a state is the richest in the world. its one of the reasons they are considering leaving in the first place.
It has nothing to do with making it go away - that's an entirely different issue - one which I've not touched on here. Doublespeak to control audience's susceptibility to leaning one way or another is incredibly deceitful. I'm on board with establishing means for these people who are already in-country to 'become legal', although the 'how' and 'who' details need a lot of work, but that doesn't change the deceit in the narrative the turks constantly push with their phrasing of issues such as this. Make sense?
Lets start with this: I live abroad. I know the processes required for living in countries not of your birth, and the penalties for things like overstaying visas. There is a significant difference between the word 'illegal' and 'undocumented' - undocumented would imply that they're legal immigrants just didn't get the paperwork. No, they're not - many or most have likely entered by obviously illegal and deceptive means rather than simply paperwork mistakes, and I can tell you how many countries allow illegal immigrants to stay in their country without repercussion: NONE, that I know of. Zero. Again, I know what happens when I simply *overstay* a visa in a country, and it usually means hefty financial penalty and perhaps even deportation and refusal to re-enter the country for a given period of time..or maybe forever. I don't know why you think it should be acceptable in America to conduct this type of obviously illegal behavior, and no, there is no relationship between illegally entering and staying in a country and driving too fast - that's a ludicrous juxtaposition in my view.
Dude is nuts. He JUST said "obviously the voters agree otherwise they wouldn't have voted for me" and then said he doesn't want to defund California. So it's really amazing that he believes/thinks that everyone who voted for him automatically agrees with anything he MIGHT do when in reality a lot of his voters didn't take everything he promised to do seriously.
I live in the Los Angeles area and in the past week I have seen a US Customs and Border Protection vans twice already. Lived here all my life so far and had never seen a border protection van so far from the border!
Jerry Brown is an amazing political figure, and California is amazingly lucky to have him. Jerry Brown was governor of Calif. when I was a kid in my early 20s and living in Laguna Beach, that was back in 1975. He's back as governor when the state needs him most. The only thing that bothers me about his political career is that he'd've made a damn fine president.
It doesn't matter if they are contributing in the economy or not they are living and working illegally in the US and that is against the constitution and everyone should obey the law!
As a Californian, I 500000% do not support sanctuary status as a state, lot's of other Californians I know are not happy with this idea either. terrible idea.
My understanding of Sanctuary Cities: 1. Illegal immigrants can not be charged with crime in this country. 2. Crime would usually result in deportation as opposed to prosecution. 3. Sanctuary Cities do no allow for deportation 4. Sanctuary Cities are still bound by prosecution laws, and therefore can not charge the illegal immigrants who have committed crime. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
Go California! Hollywood, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, you name it. Big LOVE from a liberal Bernie supporter to the great people of CA for resisting tyrant Trump! Dark clouds coming up over Trump in Washington. But sunshine in California! That is why California is called The Sunshine State. Best of America!
if the undocumented immigrants in the US decided to leave, the economy would be in shambles. I dont live in the US anymore, but I did for a long time. Im a chef, and out of all the restaurants I have ever worked, in different cities mind you, 80-90% of the employees are immigrants, undocumented in a lot of cases. Trump should be thanking the immigrants, im sure he has employed them before to turn a profit by paying reduced wages to them as well. He actually has. I would like 'THE YOUNG TURKS' channel to look into this if possible. I think what you might find will be shocking to say the least. I will leave a link below to get you started. Thanks for all the coverage it is appreciated. time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/ "In the summer of 1980, Donald Trump faced a big problem. For six months, undocumented Polish laborers had been clearing the future site of Trump Tower, his signature real estate project on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue, where he now lives, maintains his private offices and hosts his presidential campaign." The men were putting in 12-hour shifts with inadequate safety equipment at subpar wages that their contractor paid sporadically, if at all."
you guys are a bunch of bad assess, I love how you give information based on facts and not on lies, I also like how you guys are so open minded to the reality of our country, I am an American and proud of what our founding fathers put together but i also believe there is a lot more that needs to be done before we can call ourselves the best country in the world.
California should be the Capitol of the United States of America. Congress would be happy to be here, too. More places to go out for their endless lunch breaks. More sunshine to rid their depressions. Strange and unhealthy medical problems happen to people from lack of sunshine. Look whats happening in those other, cloudy, cold and wet States! Please do not bring your lack of sunshine problems, here. 100 years ago there were approximately 3 million people in California.. Now there is approximately 39 million people in this Golden and sun shiny State.
Reality check. California is the largest economy of the United States. Currently California is actually number 6 in the global economy by themselves. I don't think "defunding" the state would really hurt their cause as much as Trump thinks.
"Undocumented immigrants in California alone contribute about $181 billion of California's GDP - a figure just about equal to the 2015 GDP for the entire state of Oklahoma" (3:05). What this says to me is that California uses slave labor to make lots of money, and they don't want to let that go. How much do you think the undocumented workers are getting paid?
Cutting federal funding from sanctuary cities isn't a simple task. How can u make sure that the money stops going to just the sanctuary cities without some crossover?
"Obviously the voters of California agree, they voted for me." Lies, lies and more lies. Does this guy have no conception of the truth anymore? Did he ever?
How do farmers advertise for agricultural labor?I was considering it at one time but it's not something I see in the papers or online job listings, nor do temp agencies like Kelly Services ask you if you are interested in working in that industry.
Has anyone else had an undocumented person wreck into their car? I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It happened to me. They just have no drivers license, no insurance, and the police just take down their name and phone number and let them go.
If Trump "defunds" California, what's to stop California from "defunding" the US by refusing to have it's people pay federal taxes any longer? I mean, seriously, does Trump think *everyone* will just lie down and let him use them as a doormat? If so, he may well be SADLY mistaken. I dearly HOPE California finds a way to give Trump a political black eye. No one deserves it more!
I've worked for and with people from the West Coast, and though I've often found their lifestyle to be too slow and superficially nice as a lifelong Tristate resident, I do kinda feel the rest of us are probably holding them back economically. The level of self-interest in Northeast workers has become pretty blatant, and it goes from the top down. All the regular markets are drying up and competition is fierce. Bigger companies consistently egde out smaller rivals and leverage political connections to push laws that only benefit well-establish corporations, sometimes to the detriment of their whole industry. People here can grind for themselves (sometimes), but don't know how or don't want to grind for an organization. I don't have the best firsthand experience with people from the rest of the country, but I've often found them to have the West Coast's friendly aloofness with none of the drive. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who complain about having to work more than 40 hours a week, breaks included. I've been coerced into doing 12 hour shifts on minimum wage (and less) many times, my bosses always making it clear they had plenty of other people applying. Stories like having to work with equipment that make your appendages bleed or strains your limbs, breathing in abestos, or dealing with rats, cockroaches and snakes are not uncommon where I grew up. I'm not even 30 yet, and I've already thrown my back out twice while working. That's not even getting into dealing with the people, co-workers and customers alike, people walking in drunk and high or fights breaking out regularly. There was a rumor going around among the supervisors at one of my past jobs that someone found blood in one of our work vans after an employee was tasked with taking it back to the HQ's parking lot. We all just take it in stride around here - people will be assholes, and bosses will make you do shitty work. We adapt and compensate, sometimes a little too much with the latter. We always aim to have something better eventually even when things are shit, and we make what plans we can for the future. I'm more understanding of the people near me whose trials I can relate to and who are obviously pissed at how much things are changing. But we can't make demands of places like Cali that have figured out a system that more or less works in the current economy. What we need to do is emulate that in a way that works for our specific circumstances. We need to take inventory of our skills and resources and learn to pool them with others. We need to make contacts and partnerships across class lines to find demands to fill. We need to canvass newcomers to find those we can work with and mentor, and inevitably expand our markets through their own networks. We can't rely on the industries of our parents and grandparents, because their demands are always changing and there will always be someone in leadership who wants to cut down on the workers. And we need to look past the ideology, build alliances and elect people from our own number to higher and higher positions, and then make sure we have their back when bigger interests try to test their loyalties and resolve.
Here's the thing Trump and the rest of the government forget: It's not THEIR money... Californians, New Yorkers, etc. pay for the government through taxes. The government is supposed to - though it rarely does - represent US, the taxpayers who fund its operation....
Federal Funding? What Federal Funding? California's economy is one of the largest in the world. Cali contributes waaay more to the Fed than they receive. #Calexit
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Dear Red States,
We want a divorce. It's not us, it's you. Please don't feel bad.
You're going to make some dictator really happy someday. I'm sure of it.
Love,
California
PS: We're taking the Northeast and PacWest with us.
You can keep the dog, he won't stop grabbing the neighbor's kitty anyway.
Fascism disguised as Federalism is more likely. We are going down the road to it, day by day.
Jane Lin BEST COMMENT EVER
Jane Lin please take Ohio
Dear California,
I would love this. The US would lose 55 democratic electoral votes.
That would make is nearly impossible for a democrat to become president. I know it.
Thanks for the idea,
Red States
PS: Taking the Northeast and PacWest would make things 1000% easier.
Wii G Vote Third Party
In 2015 California contributed $405 billion dollars to federal tax revenue, but we only received 58 billion dollars federal funds, basically about 86% of our tax went to subsidize dead beat red states, California just surpassed French to be the 6th largest economy in the world, can you imagine how much can be done if we keep all of our tax money to California instead?
Tony Stark the rise and fall of the legacy; the united states of america
Pranay ur butthurt!!!!
please secede...
the rest of the USA doesn't want you anyway...
+123lowp Your word doesn't count for the rest of the USA
USA is a third world banana country, California should just go out of it and live normally.
Let's secede! We'll elect Bernie and accelerate fracking along the Nevada and Arizona border so we can literally break off from the continent.
+jrwhite21, if you believe that then you don't shit about Bernie.
Bernie didn't have a job until he was 40
MrReap96 define job
I think Bernie likes being a senator for Vermont, where he lives.
or better yet , George takei for president
If he cuts federal funding then Californians shouldn't have to pay federal taxes then.
Marq Mac Yea why not? Our own president doesn't pay taxes
clown face probably use our tax to pay his taxes LOL
Us California's, would love to break off from the rest of the US. We don't like Trump at all, we believe in Unity and brotherly love with all immigrants, race and nationalities.
Brian Saez
Bradley Karsten Nice fear mongering bro.
That proposition for California to become it's own country is sounding better and better everyday, lol.
Joe Seaver it wouldn't last long, the US would declare war and annex California
+ShadowSlayer That would make California martyrs. Inevitably causing greater problems. None of this is worth it. Cali shouldn't succeed because we need them, and while they could self sustain it would cost way to much. None of it is worth it.
the Calexit movement is supported by Russians as a ploy to create national disunity. Secession is NOT the answer.
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lol
Joe Seaver DSA DSA... Divided States of America
California did NOT vote for him!
Chris Namaste - so what? He is still your president.
So what? he just said ca did, ALT_FACT. he is delusional prob insane.
Paul Douglas Precisely.
Then you're fine. Trump is not your president. Kim Kardashian is.
even that would be a step up ;} she can read.
STATES RIGHTS. Right conservatives?
They have every right to harbor illegal/undocumented immigrants if they wish...
So long as they're willing to give up federal funding, to continue doing so.
want fed money? Follow fed law. Its really simple. Cali can always leave if they want. Wont be getting that water and military protection. Join Mexico.
No, federal supremacy, right liberals?
Kevin Montrond they do dumbass they do it thru an itin
callowaymotorcompany California literally is breaking away from the union. See how the hippies like it when you take their weed from them
Just think California has SIXTY times the population of s smaller state like Wyoming yet both states get two senators. Talk about taxation without representation.
PaddyCollector - and far fewer electoral votes so that other states could get a minimum of electoral votes. If CA actually got electoral votes based on population, there would be a lot more votes for CA.
ProfessorRomendev
it doesn't excuse the fact that businesses can 'buy' the lesser states and use the power to influence the rest of the country.
That is why it is called the United States of America and not just the country America. You do know the history of the USA right?
ProfessorRomendev your point?
A D his criticism shows a lack of historical and civil knowledge
California has the biggest single state economy in the country
How is a landlocked state suppose to compete with a state with the ability to import. Those landlocked states supply 98% of their food. China manufacturing and Saudi oil all comes through Cali. We got 3 other west coast states who would love to be Americas west coast port.
Just cause of it's ports
no shit it also has over 10 million more people than the next most populated state
Myron Smith Funny I heard the same thing about Texas. But they have clean water too.
Namelessandpure, grown by white conservatives in the interior of California who think people from LA are nuts
I'm now seeing a lot of parallels between Trump and Gaddafi
i was thinking more Stalin.
Ionlymadethistoleavecoments yeah that anology works too. I pick stalin because of the obvious cult of personality trump uses
I am seeing parallels of that phoney bald man threating his entire family if he dose not attack Iran..yes you can always trust the secret waist of money service to isreal.......hey...did you know Admiral George Morrison calls for economic and military attack on Israel after Tel-Aviv conducts false flag attack on USS Liberty...and Jim Morrison of the doors solved his own murder in advance.....Look what he is holding in the florida concert...you are all slaves...remember...now that nsa and cia know the world knows...James D Morrision was killed by Gods loving people....Jews..Isreal!!!! Look how many coward americans did nothing.......
Gaddafi? Trump is eradicating homelessness, and giving all citizens free college education, free electricity, and free healthcare?
l156a21 Or did you mean that his personal security detail will soon consist of a harem of female assassins?
Did this DUDE just say california voted for him?
Not sure why more people don't upvote your comment lol.
Victor Ibarra because it is a pretty long way down.
j marine Hey 3 votes already lol.
Victor Ibarra he made a solid point so I up voted him.
About 1/3 of California voted for Trump, most of it rural.
California can become its own country we have every single resource we could need!
Except permission from the United States. We would have to go to Civil War 2.0 if you have a chance of leaving.
And it would be over in less than a day.
Ezequiel Zambrano Please do!
Would not last a week with all the natural disasters out there
lmao is that why cali is begging for money now ?
cali has been a long time liberal state ;) but come on democrat or republican they are all the same. don't think so ? ok then go back 50 year's what has every congress said ? every president said ? ok let me give it a shot they all said secure the boarder right ? and yet nothing has been done other then it has got worse then we have every issue is the other party blocked us and that's why we can't do anything (just a blame game from day one of the same so called founding father's wanted a small group to control it it look at now if you use you're mind you will see we are all fucked until people stop playing party or race or wealth crap. until then we are all still slave's ! (only fool's think only black people was slave's in america and only white people own slave's ) time to wake the sheep up even if they don't agree with us
California should have a secession vote not to actually secede but to make a statement
Aggiesgigem to show that we aren't gonna cave into trump's bs
Aggiesgigem I would hope so because America would be screwed without cali
I think we want to secede and other states don't want us either, but they need us..
Angel Light
Oregon and Washington would join the secession! West coast blue wall!
I don't think you can just vote and secede. I believe Texas only has that right as part of their agreement to join the union back in the day.
Civil war 2.0 ? We get iron man just saying 😂
Alvaro Bazan iron man isn't real and California would lose within weeks
Ready set....
Alvaro Bazan well we get captian America Hail Hydra.
Yada Yada WW3 would be US Israel Saudi Arabia England Japan vs China Russia Iran North Korea Mexico
Yada Yada no state will support California. Literally no state will back them.
I'm a progressive blue-collar South Carolina resident, i thought there were more like minded rational people in the south, but sometimes I feel like I'm behind enemy lines here. Despite the loud mouthed majority that tend to drown us out, I promise there are southerners who value education and deplore racism. Please don't give up on us.
Wait I thought California has the economy of a small country all by it self. In fact I think it's like the 7th or 8th largest economy in the world.
thats what Republicans want you to think ,they don't wanna admit that Cali is doing far better than their shitty red state
The Dx Gamer Show California's economy is somewhat a house of cards. It has high real estate, agriculture which will immediately die once they leave due to zero water, Hollywood etc. that will all collapse once they leave
California still has a higher GDP than Russia.
+non yobussiness you're wrong. California feeds most of the country so California could literally starve the country if that were the case. with that being said they would still sell/trade with the U.S because no one wins in that Scanario.
6th actually we are slightly ahead of France.
why everyone assume Latinos are only immigrants here? i know there are alot of asian immigrants and other cultures that reside in California as well.
Because Latinos are the right's favoured villain of the decade. Asian immigrants will get their turn soon.
Brandon Korner again
John Blake
how about illegal Russian mafiosos. I don't hear devil trump saying much about that. because he goes to bed with them. have you heard of the Russian mafia, human trafficking, drug trade. sorry the Russian mafia, they are not Mexican.
John Blake shhhhh... the rest of the country doesn't know that. we're apparently all white males.
vick3d
pretty sure not all latinos blast their Ranchero music on their front porch from sunrise to sundown
lol I live in California and I'm voting for cal-exit because I want California to leave. It will give me an excuse to get out of here.
Aggiesgigem lol me and my friends talk about how funny it would be. Ok so we were saying like California would ban all guns even for the cops 👮 right. So the cops would just have sticks with the word no on them and they would point them at people yelling "no, no stop it no" but they wouldn't actually be able to touch the person. You know just stupid ass shit.
Aggiesgigem no I doubt there would be a grace period.
Matthew Hubbs No just no
Aggiesgigem you obviously don't live in CA, that's why your comment is a load of BS. that is far from the truth.
Because Brexit's working so well? LOLI wouldn't name your cause after a very quickly failing succession.
I still can't believe this man is president.
another lose for trump supporters.
hahahahahahahahaa
+Jo Smith We can't get enough of this winning!
jo smith
Lmao, that hahaha with your thumbnail just made my day 😂
***** I'm guess reading and writing isn't your strong point? Typical Drumpf supporter.
Yeah don't comment - you make your president look bad.
"I don't want to defund anybody." Hey Planned Parenthood, US Treasury, Wall Street, you're safe!
utterlyviolet what about research institutions like the one the study global warming.
He said he wouldnt fund abortions and said planned parenthood does alot of great stuff people really need to start doing research lol
MrReap96 like the research on stem cells. the project the could one day help human regrow limbs amount many other benefits.
Tuck Frump
Freddie Krueger do us a favour and visit some people tonight
Freddie Krueger Buck Ofama
In your dreams :) I too am an American citizen. So I have every right to stand my ground and say I'm American!!
Keep Telling yourself that and
everything will be okay.
He did not win California, please come for us.....if you think we are out of control, watch us
you will not divide us!
Bitch, try and leave. The U.S. Military will kick your shit in, then deport your treasonious asses.
TriggerMeTimbers really you advocate using our military against people who have not attacked us ... really
moster dupstep
carpet bombing
monster dubstep
Tell that to the Trump supporters that have been beaten by rioters.
They drew first blood. Plus the amount of criminals in California, it's just better to kill all of them instead of deporting them.
Also, yes. Carpet bombing would work nicely.
Welcome to Trumpica. What could possibly go wrong with Twitler in power? Dark, dark, dark days ahead.
Shayke Speeer you mean Trumpicana, where nightmares come true.
When I think of gangs, I think of Los Angeles, CA.
Armando G Not all Chicago it all comes from the south side, I live in Oak Park on the West, its perfectly safe
pancake Man lmao oak parks a shithole like summit
We will not allow California to secede unless you take Oregon, WA State, and maybe Nevada with you. Besides, we have Boeing and Microsoft.
That would be great, all Great States with much to offer.
Boeing is not really an asset
Arathorn Dezeus an asset is property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies.
or
a useful or valuable, thing, person, or thing.
last I checked Boeing was a company (a thing) producing things
have california cut funding to the federal goverment
This is so stupid it hurts.
please get rid of the guy in the middle
california does not need federal funding. among richest places per capita california as just a state is the richest in the world. its one of the reasons they are considering leaving in the first place.
Bill O'Reilly's face when Trump says "as you know" is priceless. lol
Wonderful doublespeak, 'undocumented immigrants', just call them what they are: ILLEGAL immigrants ffs. Say the words.
It has nothing to do with making it go away - that's an entirely different issue - one which I've not touched on here. Doublespeak to control audience's susceptibility to leaning one way or another is incredibly deceitful. I'm on board with establishing means for these people who are already in-country to 'become legal', although the 'how' and 'who' details need a lot of work, but that doesn't change the deceit in the narrative the turks constantly push with their phrasing of issues such as this. Make sense?
Lets start with this: I live abroad. I know the processes required for living in countries not of your birth, and the penalties for things like overstaying visas. There is a significant difference between the word 'illegal' and 'undocumented' - undocumented would imply that they're legal immigrants just didn't get the paperwork. No, they're not - many or most have likely entered by obviously illegal and deceptive means rather than simply paperwork mistakes, and I can tell you how many countries allow illegal immigrants to stay in their country without repercussion: NONE, that I know of. Zero. Again, I know what happens when I simply *overstay* a visa in a country, and it usually means hefty financial penalty and perhaps even deportation and refusal to re-enter the country for a given period of time..or maybe forever. I don't know why you think it should be acceptable in America to conduct this type of obviously illegal behavior, and no, there is no relationship between illegally entering and staying in a country and driving too fast - that's a ludicrous juxtaposition in my view.
the only thing more annoying than "sjws and pc culture" are the dumbshits bitching about "sjws and pc culture"
Brandon Tang Brandon, what is your Asian name?
everything is always tremendous and tremendous by trump.
kamal Raji Tremendous comment Kamal. Bigly. Believe me.
kamal Raji Many people are talking about how tremendous this comment was.
kamal Raji yep. lol.
He's president not dictator
Is joining Canada an option for California?
I always wanted to wear a Mounty Hat......
Richard Chambers Mexico or Canada hard choice? ?
Richard Chambers Once they are free of the USA, perhaps, I'm sure Oregon and Washington state would love to join too.
Calexit ain't happening.
Wii G It would be a lot cooler if it did.
dont upset the orange ourangatain or he'll throw fecies at u!
Yayyy bring it. Been waiting for this! Love from, The Republic of California
I just watched some old TYT videos (2012) and I am blown away by how much you guys have grown!!!
"Obviously California is out of control. The people agree or they wouldn't have voted for me..." The idiocy reaches new heights all the time.
Dude is nuts. He JUST said "obviously the voters agree otherwise they wouldn't have voted for me" and then said he doesn't want to defund California. So it's really amazing that he believes/thinks that everyone who voted for him automatically agrees with anything he MIGHT do when in reality a lot of his voters didn't take everything he promised to do seriously.
Most voting citizens agree that we need some type of a border. We need some type of vetting and some type
Anything, come on criminals cannot be held?
Based on the comments of this video you'd think everyone was from California...
I live in the Los Angeles area and in the past week I have seen a US Customs and Border Protection vans twice already. Lived here all my life so far and had never seen a border protection van so far from the border!
Thanks for quoting what we'd already heard, Ana. Hard-hitting reporter!
Jerry Brown is an amazing political figure, and California is amazingly lucky to have him. Jerry Brown was governor of Calif. when I was a kid in my early 20s and living in Laguna Beach, that was back in 1975. He's back as governor when the state needs him most. The only thing that bothers me about his political career is that he'd've made a damn fine president.
the state of California SHOULD kick out the fed.
Don Gray hell yeah, NCR!
If immigration law does not matter , neither does TAX law or city codes for that matter!
California is one of the largest economies, it makes the US money.
Make America great again... Impeach Trump
Do it if you must California. Don't let Trump control your destiny.
Christine D. - do what? Secede?
It doesn't matter if they are contributing in the economy or not they are living and working illegally in the US and that is against the constitution and everyone should obey the law!
Adam David Undocumented not the same as illegal.
As a Californian, I 500000% do not support sanctuary status as a state, lot's of other Californians I know are not happy with this idea either. terrible idea.
3:42 He so wanted to say "they took eeerrr jerrrrbs!"
So you have a president that believes in anecdotes about certain things than actual facts about those things
Californian-Americans, it fits the problems fine!!!
Ana, find happy before it's too late!
My understanding of Sanctuary Cities: 1. Illegal immigrants can not be charged with crime in this country. 2. Crime would usually result in deportation as opposed to prosecution. 3. Sanctuary Cities do no allow for deportation 4. Sanctuary Cities are still bound by prosecution laws, and therefore can not charge the illegal immigrants who have committed crime. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
Go California! Hollywood, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, you name it. Big LOVE from a liberal Bernie supporter to the great people of CA for resisting tyrant Trump! Dark clouds coming up over Trump in Washington. But sunshine in California! That is why California is called The Sunshine State. Best of America!
California would benefit SOO much if they became independent. It has the biggest GDP in the US, and it pretty much carries the rest of the country.
"otherwise they (California) wouldn't have voted for me".
They DIDN'T vote for you, that's the whole point!
if the undocumented immigrants in the US decided to leave, the economy would be in shambles. I dont live in the US anymore, but I did for a long time. Im a chef, and out of all the restaurants I have ever worked, in different cities mind you, 80-90% of the employees are immigrants, undocumented in a lot of cases. Trump should be thanking the immigrants, im sure he has employed them before to turn a profit by paying reduced wages to them as well. He actually has. I would like 'THE YOUNG TURKS' channel to look into this if possible. I think what you might find will be shocking to say the least. I will leave a link below to get you started. Thanks for all the coverage it is appreciated.
time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
"In the summer of 1980, Donald Trump faced a big problem. For six months, undocumented Polish laborers had been clearing the future site of Trump Tower,
his signature real estate project on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue, where he
now lives, maintains his private offices and hosts his presidential campaign."
The men were putting in 12-hour shifts with inadequate safety equipment
at subpar wages that their contractor paid sporadically, if at all."
you guys are a bunch of bad assess, I love how you give information based on facts and not on lies, I also like how you guys are so open minded to the reality of our country, I am an American and proud of what our founding fathers put together but i also believe there is a lot more that needs to be done before we can call ourselves the best country in the world.
California should be the Capitol of the United States of America. Congress would be happy to be here, too. More places to go out for their endless lunch breaks. More sunshine to rid their depressions. Strange and unhealthy medical problems happen to people from lack of sunshine. Look whats happening in those other, cloudy, cold and wet States! Please do not bring your lack of sunshine problems, here. 100 years ago there were approximately 3 million people in California.. Now there is approximately 39 million people in this Golden and sun shiny State.
Awesome!!!!!!! From San Diego!!!!!!
Yeah, who are going to pick the tomatoes ,cabbages, and put your foods on the tables.
Foreigners can move to and live in California without any citizenship tests or papers, etc?
Californians should counter by refusing to pay federal income taxes.
Yeah, we're out of control. We intend to remain so.
Reality check. California is the largest economy of the United States. Currently California is actually number 6 in the global economy by themselves. I don't think "defunding" the state would really hurt their cause as much as Trump thinks.
Anyone wish Lee Harvey Oswald was still hanging around that school book depository?
"Undocumented immigrants in California alone contribute about $181 billion of California's GDP - a figure just about equal to the 2015 GDP for the entire state of Oklahoma" (3:05). What this says to me is that California uses slave labor to make lots of money, and they don't want to let that go. How much do you think the undocumented workers are getting paid?
I'm proud of being a Californian !!!! Now, ima spark it up to some dank ass Cali weed!!!
aint cali filled with mexicans and rich white girls? i play gta v
Can't California just defund the Federal Government in retaliation then? They already pay more to them than they receive XD
Have you ever thought that maybe if people would of just come in legal, we wouldn't be in this mess?.
Funding is used to pay people who work. So this kinda says: I'm going to cut your salary = not pay you. WAIT! Where have I heard this before?
"otherwise they wouldnt have voted for me" BRUH WE DIDN'T
Cutting federal funding from sanctuary cities isn't a simple task. How can u make sure that the money stops going to just the sanctuary cities without some crossover?
California would be so much better off if it were independent.
"Obviously the voters of California agree, they voted for me."
Lies, lies and more lies. Does this guy have no conception of the truth anymore?
Did he ever?
How do farmers advertise for agricultural labor?I was considering it at one time but it's not something I see in the papers or online job listings, nor do temp agencies like Kelly Services ask you if you are interested in working in that industry.
Defund California? Why would California citizens then pay federal income tax?
If Trump stops sending federal money to Califorina, and Califonia stops sending money including payroll taxes to Washington, who comes out ahead?
I just did a story on my channel on how Oregon is now the First Sanctuary State. I love TYT!!!!
I am in love with Hassan. He just pauses looks into the camera and he's all "asshole" 😂
RESIST!
What if California just kept income tax within the state? I'm sure it would be plenty of money to not skip a beat!
Has anyone else had an undocumented person wreck into their car? I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It happened to me. They just have no drivers license, no insurance, and the police just take down their name and phone number and let them go.
The "People" do not want Sanctuary Cities, only the State legislature.
Go Get 'em Trump! The People are with you!
If Trump "defunds" California, what's to stop California from "defunding" the US by refusing to have it's people pay federal taxes any longer? I mean, seriously, does Trump think *everyone* will just lie down and let him use them as a doormat? If so, he may well be SADLY mistaken. I dearly HOPE California finds a way to give Trump a political black eye. No one deserves it more!
Inhumane is how Israel is treating Palestinians.
New York, San Francisco, LA, Boston and Chicago and Seattle right ? But how is he going to do that ?
Why should farmers be forced to buy a automatic picker for around a million dollars. When they can get cheap laborers. It's all about money.
when was the last time a president talked about using "weapons" against citizens? great again
I've worked for and with people from the West Coast, and though I've often found their lifestyle to be too slow and superficially nice as a lifelong Tristate resident, I do kinda feel the rest of us are probably holding them back economically. The level of self-interest in Northeast workers has become pretty blatant, and it goes from the top down. All the regular markets are drying up and competition is fierce. Bigger companies consistently egde out smaller rivals and leverage political connections to push laws that only benefit well-establish corporations, sometimes to the detriment of their whole industry. People here can grind for themselves (sometimes), but don't know how or don't want to grind for an organization.
I don't have the best firsthand experience with people from the rest of the country, but I've often found them to have the West Coast's friendly aloofness with none of the drive. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who complain about having to work more than 40 hours a week, breaks included. I've been coerced into doing 12 hour shifts on minimum wage (and less) many times, my bosses always making it clear they had plenty of other people applying. Stories like having to work with equipment that make your appendages bleed or strains your limbs, breathing in abestos, or dealing with rats, cockroaches and snakes are not uncommon where I grew up. I'm not even 30 yet, and I've already thrown my back out twice while working. That's not even getting into dealing with the people, co-workers and customers alike, people walking in drunk and high or fights breaking out regularly. There was a rumor going around among the supervisors at one of my past jobs that someone found blood in one of our work vans after an employee was tasked with taking it back to the HQ's parking lot. We all just take it in stride around here - people will be assholes, and bosses will make you do shitty work. We adapt and compensate, sometimes a little too much with the latter. We always aim to have something better eventually even when things are shit, and we make what plans we can for the future.
I'm more understanding of the people near me whose trials I can relate to and who are obviously pissed at how much things are changing. But we can't make demands of places like Cali that have figured out a system that more or less works in the current economy. What we need to do is emulate that in a way that works for our specific circumstances. We need to take inventory of our skills and resources and learn to pool them with others. We need to make contacts and partnerships across class lines to find demands to fill. We need to canvass newcomers to find those we can work with and mentor, and inevitably expand our markets through their own networks. We can't rely on the industries of our parents and grandparents, because their demands are always changing and there will always be someone in leadership who wants to cut down on the workers. And we need to look past the ideology, build alliances and elect people from our own number to higher and higher positions, and then make sure we have their back when bigger interests try to test their loyalties and resolve.
personally i'm completely opposed to sanctuary cities.
Let him pull federal funding for the state, then we Californians will not pay our federal taxes.
Here's the thing Trump and the rest of the government forget: It's not THEIR money... Californians, New Yorkers, etc. pay for the government through taxes. The government is supposed to - though it rarely does - represent US, the taxpayers who fund its operation....
Federal Funding? What Federal Funding? California's economy is one of the largest in the world. Cali contributes waaay more to the Fed than they receive. #Calexit
Truck Drivers hate California, Conservatives hate California, even in the movies California is destroyed by a heart quake
if they cut funds to sanctuary cities do the people of California need to pay federal taxes? just a question
They did the same damn thing with the 55 speed limit and the 21 year drinking age. "Threatening to defund" is old news...