How Does the C7.5 S6 Compare to the B8.5 S4?
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2021
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Awesome comparison learned a few things i would not have known i just love the interior on the S6
Previous owner of '15 S4, currently owner of '16 S6...4 is quick and nimble and fun. 6 is truly world-class in every way. If you can afford it get the S6!!!
u probably wont see this but how’s maintenance/reliability been? ofc doing actual maintenance is important but any annoying things uve has to replace?
I own a B8.5 S4 and I drive a lot 40k miles in one year no joke and I personally wish I got an S6 purely for the creature comforts but I don’t like the sound of S6 maintenance. The S4 is actually very reasonable to maintain.
In that case an A6 is perfect for you, S6 looks and comfort with S4 engine
a6 with 3.0tfsi engine and exteriour mods all day
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I think this might be the craziest thing ever. I’ve been watching all your yt vids and had no idea you still made them! Your Mk5 vw videos are such great help, thank you so much!
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Big difference in interior space and appearance as well as power potential
Great comparison. What about an s4 vs s3? I'd love a similar review. I'm also looking at a 340i xdrive but i like the steering so much in the audi, and they're more budget friendly..
So I had a B8 S4 and loved it so much more than the 2014 mustang I had before it and I'm curious what you think about the A7/S7 I really want the body lines of those and am comfortable with V6 power and a tune but I also want a V8 again lol
Love the S6! Can’t wait until you tune it! Be careful over there at norumbega, there’s some creepy dudes over there lol
Weishaus is always strapped
Great video and commentary and a wonderfully enlightening for ppl who own either or both of the audi's. If I ever come back to Audi I'm going to have plans.
at what intervals turbo oil screens should be replaced?
The s6 is an absolute animal. Currently 119k on mine.
You’ve never gone from 35 miles per house to 81mph so quickly/comfortably in your life.
How’s reliability been ?
@@Demerias updated RS 7 turbos.
@@Demerias got it MD inspected before buying it as well. No complaints. Electrics will go before anything else lol.
I sold my 2011 s4 about a month ago had no issues reliability vise and was shopping for s5s s6s and s7s but then out of nowhere i found a 2015 misano red rs5 with 37k miles and jumped on it. The sound is something everyone needs to experience in person it sound as good as v8 Ferraris
How is the RS5 treating you? I got an S5 and I enjoy it... I couldn't find an RS5 with decent Mileage in my country
Great Vid! I was thinking of getting the s6 before but end up with the s4 and loving the s4!
The S4 *can* come with some epic interior options (aluminum wood inlay, panda nappa leather, etc) but most don’t, and none of those options compare to the interior of the S6.
That’s what drew me to mine, Sepang exterior, aluminum inlay trim with the panda seats.
S6 looks great with that air suspension mod. 👌
Is ride quality compromised with coilovers?
Will a trade of 2015 s3 with 111K miles for a
2016 s4 with 71K miles.
Is it a good trade deal?
Wondering if it's a good move 🤔
im actually getting a new thermostat waterpump and pcv put into my car right now because i was having coolant issues and car was overheating insanely fast. i have a 13 s5. oh and also getting a new fluid inside the supercharger
Where I can get those wheel on the s6 in canada, anyone know?
Ive had the s4 b8.5 with the superchatlrger and damn such an amazing car i mean realy great car! But now im looking towards the s6 and hope it is as amazing as my s4
Going from a B8.5 to the C7.5, for me the S6 has the larger advantage in refinement. The S6 power is effortless when comparing stock vs stock.
This was great thanks!
Love the vid.'s. I have a 16 stage 1.5 S6. You are spot on when you say if you want a highway missile... I also have a stage 3+ B5 S4. Keep that for tooling around town and pouring $$ into it. That's fun! The S6 is big but I can drive 1000 mile straight and get out of the car and feel great. Can't say that about too many other cars.. B8 would be a good compromise of both.
Has anyone experimented with adding an oil catch can to the S6? Could be another way to minimize the filter issue.
That’s a separate issue. Air/oil separator is for oil in the intake; turbo oil filter is the oil filter before the turbo
I suppose the best middle ground is then the A6/A7 3.0T, stage 2 + cooling and TCU and you're sorted
yes exactly what I have 2016 A6 H&R coilovers, swaybars and endlinks, drivetrain inserts, and coming soon heat exchanger, downpipes, and 034 motor mounts going straight to stage2+
Yeah I have the 2016 A6 3.0 stage 2 APR single pulley and CAI going dual pulley with intercooler its quick as it is can't wait to see the difference
You lost me at S6 start button on wrong side of center console. I'm keeping my S4. 😁
Have been loving my S4 so far these past few months, but there's a lot of S6s cruising around town. Someone has the C6 with an incredible exhaust too...
Are there more after market parts on the s4 vs the s6?
both have a ton of parts available!!!
I have a stage 2 dp, A6 3.0T. Best of both worlds.
Great vid! Carbon buildup is also a bit of an issue for the B8.5 (or any direct injected engine for that matter haha).
Is removing the carbon buildup expensive? I have a 2015 S4 with 100+K miles on it. How do you know if its an issue. Thanks
@@johnjuarez8005 yeah it’s pretty expensive unfortunately. They have to walnut blast all the carbon off. Dealership charged about 1k. When I spoke to my mechanic, he said when car starts idling roughly that’s when it needs to get taken care of. I’m in a similar position to you; got an S5 2013 with 95k miles
Local independent Audi shops do it for a pretty fair price but $1500 is what the dealer charges Near me
@@TheJosephhomere13 out of curiosity, how much did your Independent mechanic charge?
@@abassi1173 $600
I just replaced my water pump and thermostat on my 2010 S4. 76000 miles on the odometer. Previous owner update the mechatronics. With the sports diff.
My commute is 34 miles. Plus dad life. Took me all of like 3 days to conclude that 4.0tt is life.
I think fuel mileage is actually probably better then a double pulley s4. That kinda kills it on those.
I get just over 30mpg on freeway (yes, granny style) with dual pulley E40 file. It's a C7 A6.
I'm only a few minutes in so not sure if you covered it but crank pulley failure in the S4 is common also.
Good point!!!
Exactly the reason why you modify it, not just so it's faster but to have a stronger more reliable APR crank pulley installed.
I've got a 2013 s7, dont know if the s4 can be optioned with Bang and Olufsen but that sound system sold the s7 for me!
Yes both can!
@@IgnitionTube However 4series B&O 505watts does not compare to 7series B&O Advanced 1300 watts!!
Best compromise a C7/C7.5 with a 3.0 TFSI ;)
You should do a comparison of my 2014 S8 and your S6 I’m here in NYC
How about an A6 with v6 3.0T supercharge engine?
get the v8, i drove the diesel and gas a6. get the v8
But your SQ5 soccer mom mobile again please bro
Sounds like the same timing chain guide issues even the Ford Ecoboosts and other Teflon type chain guides
i cant believe we all wore underwear on our faces like it did something😂 god. I hope we're never fooled like that again.
Some of us just didn't tho
ANOTHER BANGER LETS GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
How much power can you get out a s4 ?
Mentioned in the video :)
+1 for getting it inspected before, I just full sent it with my s4 and spent 2k on maintenance the first week 🤣. But by far best daily driver for the money!
What kind of maintenance did you have to spend right out of the gate?
@@johnjuarez8005 it’s a rare issue, the dual mass flywheel in my dsg started making clunking noises and it drove me nuts so I replaced it. It’s prob due to the previous owner launching the piss out of the car 🤣.
@@kevinkijak1598 Thanks. I bought mine new. Never launched it, so hopefully will never have to deal with that.
@@johnjuarez8005 yea it’s such a rare issue on the b8/b8.5 nothing to worry about at all.
I think mine is currently doing this. Sometimes when I am at a stop, I can hear like a rotational grinding sound. Also, I get clunks here and then when the transmission shifts down on it's own. Sounds like I have a dual mass flywheel going out :(
S6>S4, no comparison. Coming from an owner of both.
what do u do to be able to afford them?
Currently got an s4. Got a newborn so yeah...Im thinking of either s6 or s7. What's your thoughts? Or should I spend the extra $ and get an rs7
@@thireshan23 hey mate. I’ve got an S4 and a 2.5 year old. It’s actually pretty good hey. Any more than four people in the car gets way too cramped. You may be able to wait a few years if needed.
Agreed had an 13 s4. Have an s6 and just got a 2018 rs5 coupe yesterday to replace s4. S4 and s6 not on same level. At all.
Would you go s5 or s6?
You mentioned the pricing and it made me feel bad. I am closing a deal on a 16 with 48K miles for 38K...You just said these could be had for the high 20s - So I guess I am paying used car inflation?
Ignition tube isn’t a soccer mom in that Sq5 anymore?
Nope!!
Not sure about the S6 but the S4 stock cat location is horrible.... so much heat. On FBO 2+ cars, w/ upgraded throttle-body, not having high flow cats can really hurt performance as well cause major cat / motor failure on the S4 8-8.5's. Upgrading the exhaust to a cat-back , including DP's, seems pointless without going high flow cats allowing the exhaust to fully flow on an FBO tuned 2+ car IMO... unless your just looking to make noise and wait for the cats to explode.
We missed cats for sure. We should have hit on that!!
The pcv valve dumped coolant into my motor and blew the head gasket on the 3.0t. Motor locked b8 s4 140k miles 🙃 never used coolant the 20k miles I had it
That’s why u do prevention maitnance my friend. PVC, water pump thermostats shoulda been done at 90k to avoid that.
I bought an A6 3.0 tfsi abt 420 cv
Well for us with 2 kids the s4 is out. It's way to small in the back. The s6 is sick but maintenance always concerned me that's why I went with the sq5 like the one you sold. :)
S6 anyday. Wanna save some money and have less headaches? Then A6, that's what I did. Bigger, more refinement, better infotainment, etc. than S4 B8.5 but same engine.
S6 of course 😃
S6 ALL THE WAY! Cannot beat that V8 exhaust sound and power!
Yup you also can’t beat the $10,000+ catastrophic turbo failures
@@mikesilverii7535 LOL, very dumb comment! That only happens with CLOGGED oil screens!! Regular maintenance, oil changes and no problems!!
@@mikesilverii7535u gotta pay to play buddy lol no s4 is touching an s6. These ain’t for brokies who care about that crap.
“From time to time” I feel a bit cramped in my S4... pshhhhh
The B platform (A4) especially in the UK where I live is the better choice, the C (A6) is just too big on the roads unfortunately. Even my B9 feels huge..
Buy after 2014 and have no mech problems , at least in europe
I think I've opted to save for a bit longer for an rs7 or s8. I really wanted a s6 at one point.
I really didn't like the S8 when I drove it, but they're similar price to the S6!
But you can get rear heated seats in an s4
4G A7? More room and better styling..... ECU flash is an easy 435BHP.
Does the 2016 s6 have apple car play?
no. people have added it
Possible to code with some software mods by guys on the forums but doesn’t have it from the factory
SHARK FIN...? Talk about cat failure especially when tuned.. Also maybe talk about needing to get an upgraded clutch if you're going to stage 2+
No kidding
We both had DSG, we don’t think about clutches haha. And we definitely should have touched on cats, big oversight on our part!
The S4 is nice but a clean A6 is sooooo much cheaper than a clean S4.
So what's with these s4 -> s6 jumps? The last year and half that seems to be the new fad for b8/8.5 owners.
More power, better sound, bigger car
Audi A6 you get everything s6 have with s4 engine 3.0t
True. I should know, I have one!👍👍
Exactly, i would get the Competition Prestige A6. Has S6 everything except the motor
You don't get sports seats, Alcantara, flat bottom steering, b&o speakers and many other things..
@@sumedhdadi8086 You do with the A6 Competition.
Well you will miss the air suspension which is one of the best features of that car
I was expecting a drag race but nope
S6 looks way better, especially with the RS rims lordddd
I actually prefer the s4, but I like smaller cars
@@bloodbullet105 i also prefer the s4
Prefer S4 as well
I prefer the s3
@@hebrewhammer8571 I actually prefer GTIs, but I meant in the video.
What’s PCV ..?
Positive crankcase ventilation.
Common problem with the 3.0T.
Mine went bad at around 90,000 miles.
Mine went at 70k
@@jj-tq4hx common problem on a lot of VAG cars for a long time. The 2.0tfsi on the Mk5 GTI and Audi A3/S3 were also really prone to failure.
No love for S5’s. Both those cars look great thou.
it's not a 4 door sedan, not relevant to this comparison haha
Would chose s5 manual over both. Supercharger over turbo as well...
Love them. Only issue is they are 4 seaters (and cramped at that). But by far the most beautiful
B8.5 is better. Absolutely.
Eli you missed the BIGGEST factor that makes the S4 better in my opinion, and that is the ability to row your own gears!
True, but I don’t particularly care for the B8/8.5 manual gearbox
@@IgnitionTube I request elaboration. I absolutely adore mine
@@IgnitionTube any reason why? Can it be made better? Curious to know as I'm in the market for one. Still having a hard time deciding between getting a DSG or a manual
I felt it was super sloppy and not very communicative. A short shifter improves it, but I still don't think it's an amazing gearbox. The car feels like it was designed for a DSG haha
@@IgnitionTube Gotcha. I guess I should try to find and drive one that is stick if I'm going to consider it. Thanks for the input man, I appreciate it
The true difference between the two is that the S6 never came in a manual and the S4 did. Had a 14 S4 manual and loved it. Traded it in for a family car (sad day) and couldn’t afford the S6 at the time, but I don’t think I’d get the S6 even still. I prefer to drive the car not let the car drive me. Manuals for the win!
So B8 S4 has same engine as C7 A6
Correct
@@mikec1425 The C7 A6 is really overlooked. There are some C6 A6s that have the 3.0T as well.
@@23bamboosaclose I have one in garnet red with 20s fit way better than those 19s
@@hikeskool there is 3.0 supercharger trim on C7 A6
Yeah I got the 2016 A6 3.0 and that is quick with a tune and single pulley beats scats, Camero so, and 5.0
The B9 S4 compared to a C7.5 S6 would’ve been a way closer & better comparison
How can these young kids afford these cars?
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A6 competition FTW
I’ve had my 2017 A6 competition s-line since new. Best daily driver I’ve ever owned.
@@cleanasdirt6832 I've had 2010 S4 for 7years, now at 175k no major problems, going to get A6 comp tomorrow, see AudiBH, I love 3.0 supercharged, will never buy Audi V6 turbo newer models
"Much more maintenance friendly" he says, as I remove my fuel lines to change a thermostat\pcv...
Joking, but this car is a bitch to work on lol.. scary to think the S6 is even worse
I call these guys "Mommy's experts". They think they know about cars a lot but they does't
Personally, I'd just get an S-Line A4. It has more than enough power and feels lighter for better handling. Plus, great gas mileage.
@@hikeskool Exactly the reason I prefer the A4 S-Line. It handles better due to being lighter. And when you have a car not known for handling, you're better off with the model that handles best.
@@hikeskool Handling has nothing to do with how fast or slow a car is. Every car out there can easily have enough speed and power to completely lose control on an on-ramp or off-ramp. Or any typical turn for that matter. Or any mountain road. The list goes on and on. You must be someone who never pushes his car anywhere near it's limits if you don't understand that.
You might think the s-line is fine -- until you drive an S4. Then your going to think it's broken. Seriously.
@@jimmynewtron221 - Fun fact: I used to own an S4 and an A5 S-Line (manual transmission) and I prefer the A5. Admittedly, I did put an exhaust and tune on the A5 and it made it very much like the S4 as far as performance. It was more than enough for me because I'm more about handling than straight line speed. The A5 definitely was the better handling car for sure.
@@hikeskool Power helps overcome poor handling? Lolol...um, no. That's almost as stupid as saying power helps overcome poor braking. You might want to rethink your statement.
S6 differential should have been made stronger for the heavy launches
I'd say completely different....
The c7 diamond crap seats are a shit standard thing , they support nothing and are not comfy . The cooled massage seats are the right option to get
those have zero support lmao
@@IgnitionTube they have inflating side support kid . Or do you not get them in jolly us of a ? The diamond stitched ones have less support than a golf seat but they do look good . To be hones i was surprised you got a s6 and not a b9 since you can tune the s6 to ridiculous hp but its still gonna be a big heavy boat . Have fun with it you wanted one before the sq5 if i remember ;) glad you made it happen . Im looking for a b8 s4 and in europe good ones are almost the price of a s6 fuck i hate euro
@@mikemayers9353 that's no way to talk to people. You act like he ran over your dog. Why do aggressive and condescending
Nope S4 B8.5 hands down is better
bro those are two completely different price pointed cars how tf you goin compare them
They’re not, lol. We talked about it in the last 5 mins of the video
The s4’s are becoming soooo clapped out unfortunately.
Easy, S3
Too small
@@IgnitionTube With a family I can see that
Is it really necessary to wear a mask while do your videos. Its annoying to look at.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience, next time I will put my family and friends at risk so I can appease a RUclips commenter.
@@IgnitionTube I was saying during the shoot. You could have been maskless and maintained 6 feet from your guest.
@@IgnitionTube lmfaoooooo
Jeez some people just say the dumbest things.
@@HISHAM931 Not so. Believe the science. Not the propaganda.