Which remapper is better for gyro? - reWASD VS Steam Input

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @FlickStickVids
    @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад +1

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  • @Tyr808
    @Tyr808 2 месяца назад +8

    Great video! As someone that’s been a Gyro enthusiast for a while I wasn’t sure if I would find any new information here and mostly just wanted to watch to help signal boost Gyro gaming in general, haha, but that detail about rewasd being able to keep certain features while still being able to be customized is good to know!

  • @vortex1Mango
    @vortex1Mango 2 месяца назад +14

    Accessibility is for everyone. I will forever stand behind this comment. Its the game devs job to balance aim assist. What can be done on mouse can be done on controller and then some. Dont want aim assist abuse? Tune aim assist properly.

    • @AndyValer
      @AndyValer 2 месяца назад +2

      @@vortex1Mango absolutely!

    • @user00777
      @user00777 2 месяца назад +2

      @@vortex1Mango you’re right 👍🏻

    • @pseudonymos_
      @pseudonymos_ 2 месяца назад +1

      It is not true that what can be done on controller can be done on mouse. I'll keep an open mind to any arguments against this though if some one wants to reply.

    • @vortex1Mango
      @vortex1Mango 2 месяца назад

      @@pseudonymos_ How so? In a game like call of duty gyro is equivalent to mouse remap. Aim assist being as strong as it is. Every way of manipulating aim assist besides that are all controller features. Seeing as you have to remap the mouse to controller. That's the same. Deadzone manipulation is then some. Along with a lot more features in rewasd and steam for controller. There's nothing to debate. We can add on top of that. Mouse to controller feels awkward. Remapping gyro and sticks with AA does not. Fortnites the only one doing it right. And guess what? It's working.

    • @vortex1Mango
      @vortex1Mango 2 месяца назад +1

      @@pseudonymos_ I mean unless your on a Xbox controller I suppose... Even the sticks are more accurate than they have ever been. Looking at some of these top gyro players gameplay. It seems it's not too far off with the right settings. This is just years and years of mkb exp vs a few years of gyro experience. It will catch up if people use it. But it won't ever catch up with controller players dieharding over aim assist.

  • @burnastro9599
    @burnastro9599 2 месяца назад +13

    since 8.0 release this September its possible again to use in Apex, COD and other popular games

    • @gugomajo4161
      @gugomajo4161 2 месяца назад +1

      @@burnastro9599 the RUclipsr keeps removing my asnwers

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      Dude, what are you talking about?

    • @gugomajo4161
      @gugomajo4161 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FlickStickVids you remove 4 times the answer I gave in the other post in which I said you shouldn’t get this software

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      Dude, it's still there. Community feedback is important for people to make their own mind, I value your opinion. I just asked "why?" and your answer to my "why?" still there.

    • @gugomajo4161
      @gugomajo4161 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FlickStickVids I can’t see my answer in any of the replies

  • @dEEkAy2k7imkubik
    @dEEkAy2k7imkubik 2 месяца назад +3

    Today i learned: Games that support Steam Input API directly, have actions for in game actions and this makes mapping and on screen glyphs actually match.

  • @Swissalpsss
    @Swissalpsss 2 месяца назад +4

    Great video buddy 🔥 rewasd gives an opportunity to play comfortably

  • @nothetwins8059
    @nothetwins8059 2 месяца назад +2

    A little correction, in steam input you can change some stuff about the triggers, like the treshold, deadzone, etc. But it's true that rewasd is simplier and straightforward.
    Your videos are amazing and helped me a lot to understand steam input, recently bought a dualsense to have a more powerful gyro aim!

    • @runadumb
      @runadumb Месяц назад

      I can only get this to work on the steam deck with steam input, not on my dualsense or dualsense edge controllers

  • @ZeeroDubs
    @ZeeroDubs 2 месяца назад +3

    Switched from Steam to ReWasd a few years ago and I really have enjoyed it. I mainly play Escape Frome Tarkov , which is a nonsteam title. I find it less finnicky to use ReWASD on non-Steam titles. Sometimes I miss some of the user-friendliness of Steam but I can't really complain too much.

    • @MS-dg7fm
      @MS-dg7fm Месяц назад

      but isnt difficult to set the gyro sens for each game?

    • @ZeeroDubs
      @ZeeroDubs Месяц назад +1

      @MS-dg7fm It can be. I dont switch games very often, though, so it's not a huge deal for me. Thankfully. I pretty much play Escape From Tarkov exclusively with the occasional side game.

  • @JibbSmartGD
    @JibbSmartGD 2 месяца назад +1

    Great break-down! Love your work!

  • @torkicks2670
    @torkicks2670 2 месяца назад +4

    can't recommend rewasd since they switched to a subscription model

  • @kelvinr.4221
    @kelvinr.4221 2 месяца назад +1

    THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! I just finished my trial time on rewasd and I’ve been thinking about it for days. I actually had an draft about it on r/gyrogaming but I’d link this video instead. I won’t be subscribing to REwasd since the lack of counts-per-dots slider is something unacceptable for someone looking for consistency. Also the lack of the slider make recentering in-game impossible and there’s no way to deactivate acceleration (which I hate). The only feature that make REwasd necessary would be the M&K emulation for playing valorant but it has so much to grow yet on gyro that is not worth it subscribing just bcs of it.

  • @Samuel-nj4vb
    @Samuel-nj4vb Месяц назад +1

    Thank you so much for your videos!

  • @Apneaa
    @Apneaa 2 месяца назад +3

    When steaminput get the accel overhaul and hopefully some more stick options, it's going to be a close call.

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад +1

      True! Rn I feel like steam is more gyro focused and reWASD is more stick focused. I should have put it that way on the video, but I just thought about it now lol

    • @pseudonymos_
      @pseudonymos_ 2 месяца назад +1

      What is the accel overhaul?

    • @Apneaa
      @Apneaa 2 месяца назад

      @@pseudonymos_ rn theres only presets for steaminput but the devs have told that there will be a more complex and fine tuned system coming out at some point in the future(no timeframe given)

    • @pseudonymos_
      @pseudonymos_ 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Apneaa where can I find this dev statement?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад +1

      @pseudonymos_ Aubrey is the one responsible for the gyro implementation on Steam, he already mentioned the development of this feature multiple times on Reddit and on the gyro gaming discord server, but I don't know if Steam actually released something talking about it.

  • @expcake
    @expcake 2 месяца назад

    it seems obvious but i’ll say it anyway: one thing to take into account for steaminput is that your configs can carry on to steam deck for people who happen to own them. provided you use the same controller, the user experience is very straightforward when it comes to transferring your config from pc to deck. in fact, the steam deck is why i’ve dedicated myself to use gyro through steaminput more

  • @pawes7418
    @pawes7418 2 месяца назад +2

    Steam Input have better and more advanced gyro settings BUT rewasd works with literally everything right now.

  • @VRT_CTRL
    @VRT_CTRL Месяц назад

    honestly i cant play overwatch with steam input because i’m so used to the reWASD acceleration curve but with the looming threat(just a fear not a fact) of every company banning reWASD idk man lets hope nothing bad happens

  • @user00777
    @user00777 2 месяца назад +1

    There are so many useful features in reWASD👍🏻 I like it

  • @dufte
    @dufte 2 месяца назад +3

    I used to use gyro both with Steam (because of the Steam Controller) and with ReWASD when I mainly played with the DS4. Both have a one disadvantage: they require a software installation.
    Currently, for example, I'm using a Mac and mostly playing via the cloud (Cloud Gaming via GFN, Shadow PC, Amazon Luna). ReWASD isn't available for Mac, and I'm not sure if Steam Input works properly on macOS.
    Now, I'm using the Xim Matrix as an adapter: the DS5 is connected to the Xim Matrix via Bluetooth, and the device itself is connected to the Mac via USB. With the Xim Matrix, I can use "Gyro to Joystick" or "Gyro to Mouse + Keyboard." There is also a mixed mode, like "Gyro to Mouse + Gamepad," but unfortunately, that doesn't work on macOS.
    Overall, I'm super satisfied with the Xim Matrix. Flickstick isn't available yet, and gyro sensitivity works a bit differently here, but this little plastic gadget allows me to use gyro aiming anywhere I want. It can even be used on consoles (XBox and PS). Btw. this seems to work also on iPad (latest iOS), because Apple has improved Xinput support.

    • @Sephsplaces
      @Sephsplaces 2 месяца назад

      could you not run this via steam as a non-steam game and then use steaminput?

    • @dufte
      @dufte 2 месяца назад

      @@Sephsplaces Since I had the Xim Matrix under Windows before switching to MacOS, I can't say with 100% certainty whether it works with Steam on MacOS. Luna, for example, runs through the browser, meaning I would have to add Chrome as a Steam game. That all sounds like too much hassle to me.

  • @DaMu24
    @DaMu24 2 месяца назад

    One important thing to note:
    reWASD only works on Windows, because it works closely with the Windows Device Manager to create and manage virtual controllers and devices for games like Valorant, Apex Legends, Fortnite, Call of Duty and other Riot games to use.
    You can't use reWASD for any computer other than the latest version of Windows.
    Steam Input works on any computer running Steam. This includes Windows, Linux, and Steam OS.
    That being said, if you have Windows, always give reWASD a shot.

  • @m4nuiwnl459
    @m4nuiwnl459 2 месяца назад +1

    While me playing 6finger and gyro on my ipad mini destroying pc lobbies in CombatMaster & Farlight😂😂

  • @IcyXzavien
    @IcyXzavien 2 месяца назад

    I've been experimenting with my gyro sensitivities and acceleration as of late, as I've realized I've been going way too high and I want to tone it down while still having the ability to ratchet comfortably. I really hope the revamp to acceleration happens soon.

  • @teneesh3376
    @teneesh3376 2 месяца назад

    Steam input's biggest is trying to get it to work with games outside of steam. If the game isnt bought from another launcher, this is fine. But trying to get a game bought from gog, windows store or the epic game store is a nightmare

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      True! That's also a good point!
      There is a program called Glossi that kinda solves this issue, but it's so buggy. I wouldn't recommend it unless you reeeeeally want to play a game with Steam Input.

    • @teneesh3376
      @teneesh3376 2 месяца назад

      @@FlickStickVids tell me about it. I tried to get slave zero to work with GloSI cause I heard that the steam version isn't good. But it just doesn't work at all

  • @4ixuaxuaxuenik
    @4ixuaxuaxuenik 2 месяца назад

    I’m just discovering reWASD, but it helps me with my google stadia. Nothing else does, so I think to subscribe at the end of the trial

  • @dm.3145
    @dm.3145 2 месяца назад

    Can you do a video on the best gyro controller that also has hall effect joysticks

  • @sega5785
    @sega5785 2 месяца назад +1

    I used to play with flicks stick and it was so unnatural and clunky. Currently I am using separated joy cons from nintendo switch which is far better approach IMHO.

  • @CandarianGaming
    @CandarianGaming 22 дня назад

    Steam input is very buggy but has better gyro options. reWASD is just something that I can always rely on.

  • @caleasthetic
    @caleasthetic 2 месяца назад

    will you ever make a video about the alpakka controller?

  • @100iksov
    @100iksov 2 месяца назад +3

    reWASD is cool 😎 ❤

  • @Dima-vish
    @Dima-vish 2 месяца назад

    Do you have more detailed video about rewasd?

    • @reWASD
      @reWASD 2 месяца назад

      Hello there. If you have any questions feel free to contact our support team via official website or other suitable channels

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      Not yet!

  • @N3ro72
    @N3ro72 2 месяца назад

    Can't emulate ds4 controller for Ps4 Remote play with SteamInput😔

  • @ognjenstankovic98
    @ognjenstankovic98 2 месяца назад +3

    Very informative. It's a bit disappointing you made no mention of joyshockmapper, the tool that probably spawned the entire gyro community.
    btw. is joyshockmapper also banned in games like rewasd? (I'll go check, will inform you of what I find)

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      As far as I know, joyshockmapper isn't banned from any games.
      I know about other input remappers like joyshockmapper, but I decided to focus only on reWASD and Steam for this video because they are the most comparable and the most popular as well.
      I will make a video about joyshockmapper one day tho ;D

    • @burnastro9599
      @burnastro9599 2 месяца назад +1

      reWASD is working again with all popular games

    • @reWASD
      @reWASD 2 месяца назад

      Hello there. reWASD isn't banned in games. You can ensure it yourself ;) Please make sure you use the latest reWASD version and let us know what you think

  • @arthurrogado
    @arthurrogado 2 месяца назад

    Great video!
    I wonder if i will have this freedom on switch, hehe.

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад +1

      You can use reWASD with consoles. I haven't tested this yet, and you need a PC+console. But yeah, no console will ever give you this much freedom hehe 😅 except the Steam Deck and other devices like it.

  • @eazyrat
    @eazyrat 2 месяца назад

    Rewasd is so fricking awesome even for use with other programs.

  • @cringelord7058
    @cringelord7058 2 месяца назад

    you should check out the alpakka controller from imput labs

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      They were the first to contact me, but I live in Brazil, it's way too expensive for them to send it to me.

  • @kaozz77
    @kaozz77 2 месяца назад

    what about combining both SI and reWasd for features the other doesnt have?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      You can definitely do that, but idk if this may cause some bugs.

  • @kklum6998
    @kklum6998 2 месяца назад

    I tried ReWASD v8.0 for 7 days trial but the EA app forces me to uninstall it before I can start any game in EA app. Bummer. Tries switch the software off but EA app keep detecting. I am a mouse and keyboard player on FPS. ReWASD offer on lifetime sub is what I was aiming for but it is a no go due to this. EA really hates ReWASD software.

  • @bibabutzemann5661
    @bibabutzemann5661 2 месяца назад

    I use only steam input nebause i know EVERY function now, i use it since so many years.

  • @MrMustard2112
    @MrMustard2112 2 месяца назад

    Hey this isn't really relevant to the video but could you do a video going over the reset to horizon feature in steam input while using flickstick? I've never been able to get it to function properly. I would like a reset to horizon button along with the ability to ratchet in tf2.

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад +1

      I can make an video just for this, but I already explained that on my simplified guide, here: ruclips.net/video/D0uSfda_-Rc/видео.html&si=j-coPwvAq2uJ33Nh

    • @MrMustard2112
      @MrMustard2112 2 месяца назад

      @FlickStickVids I've never been able to get it to function. It always just points to the ground for team fortress 2, it's very difficult to ratchet with steam deck handheld for me, so the reset to horizon would help me greatly. I'll watch the video you linked and see if I've missed something.

  • @7auros
    @7auros 7 дней назад

    Anyone know how to get steam input to stop making my game think I have an Xbox controller? I have a DualSense 5 and the wrong glyphs get me confused a lot

  • @xXlURMOMlXx
    @xXlURMOMlXx 2 месяца назад

    I have a legion go so i have to use handheld companion, then i have to layer steaminput on top of that. Its a clunky solution but it works

    • @reWASD
      @reWASD 2 месяца назад

      Have you tried reWASD with Legion Go? Currently, it should be recognized as an Xbox controller, but we're considering adding support for this console to reWASD. What do you think about it?

    • @Crekimables
      @Crekimables 2 месяца назад

      ​@@reWASDplease! 😭😭😭

    • @xXlURMOMlXx
      @xXlURMOMlXx 2 месяца назад

      @@reWASD no I have not, it being detected as an Xbox controller means no gyro right? If it could natively pick up the legion controllers it would be great. Not sure if I would be willing to pay for a subscription though when features like rws are missing and free on steam input. Also sucks that it's banned in a lot of games

  • @MapleLeavesInAutumn
    @MapleLeavesInAutumn 4 дня назад

    Can you tell me if you know a program that will allow you to show on screen the button presses on the controller from the one that the virtual controller is created ?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  4 дня назад

      I think 3D Controller Overlay already does that by default.

    • @MapleLeavesInAutumn
      @MapleLeavesInAutumn 4 дня назад +1

      @@FlickStickVids Oh thank you! I will check that out. I didn't even know about this program existance.

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  4 дня назад

      @MapleLeavesInAutumn No problem, it's in the description of every video ;D
      Edit: I lied. I just checked, this is the only video that I didn't put the link of this program in the description. My bad!

  • @stayfrosty5156
    @stayfrosty5156 Месяц назад

    Hello there. I have been watching a lot of your videos and wanted to connect. I have heard the trigger response on dualsense 5 wireless(not edge) isnt linear enough. I wanted to order one for mostly racing games but that would kill the deal for me

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  Месяц назад

      Well... It feels linear to me, I have never heard anyone complaining about this. And you can change the response curve on your preferred input remapper.

    • @stayfrosty5156
      @stayfrosty5156 Месяц назад

      @@FlickStickVids thanks about that. I think I might have messed up linearity with the trigger deadzone. Which says that it doesn't do linear from 0 to 1 but instead from .8 to 1 due to the deadzone. All the racing pages suggest razor wolverine v2 for racing games but having already used switch controller I would prefer a gyro steering controller. Just wanted to upgrade for gyro and analog triggers for a little competitive racing games.
      Sorry to be long. I also saw people using rewasd and combining phone gyro with any controller. How does that work and what is your opinion on that?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  Месяц назад

      @stayfrosty5156 it's messy. You need to connect both devices and combine them using reWASD features. It works, but it's more complicated than just using a controller with gyro.

    • @stayfrosty5156
      @stayfrosty5156 Месяц назад

      ​@@FlickStickVidsHello again. Just got my dualsense controller. I noticed the gyro keeps recentering and eventual ends to be in a tilt for 0°. Is there a way that gyro remains centered at its original calibration point.
      Explained in a way that when shooting and using gyro on the left or right side, the gyro recenters slightly to that direction so that's leads to a tilt in gyro calibration. Is this software based or anything in the controller itself there is no gyro drift though

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  Месяц назад

      If you are playing a game with native gyro implementation that was ported from the ps4 or ps5 versions of the game, then this is a software thing that Sony never addressed.
      If you are using Steam or reWASD to emulate a mouse, this shouldn't be happening. Try turning auto-calibration "off"

  • @MS-dg7fm
    @MS-dg7fm Месяц назад

    isnt joyshockmapper easier to use if you need to set adaptive triggers? i will be easier to set both gyro and flickstick the same across games, and you can always just copy the config for adaptive triggers.

  • @smith3527
    @smith3527 2 месяца назад +3

    joyshock mapper

  • @GreyGoose545
    @GreyGoose545 Месяц назад

    I use both

  • @alessandrocapuano4385
    @alessandrocapuano4385 2 месяца назад

    But there isnt have aim aa with gyro?

  • @DarckaX
    @DarckaX 28 дней назад

    Hi, is there any way of using steam input on game pass games?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  28 дней назад

      Yes, it's a bit tricky tho. You need to use a program called Glossi. All of the instructions are on their website, have fun!

  • @MrRonski
    @MrRonski 2 месяца назад

    JoyShockMapper vs Steam input 🧐

  • @solstice904
    @solstice904 2 месяца назад

    Joyshockmapper?

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      I know about other input remappers like joyshockmapper, but I decided to focus only on reWASD and Steam for this video because they are the most comparable and the most popular as well.
      I will make a video about joyshockmapper one day tho ;D

  • @MapleLeavesInAutumn
    @MapleLeavesInAutumn 4 дня назад

    They should just delete aim asist form any game.. and just use motion controls nativelly.. just like nintendo showed how to do more than 10 years ago.

  • @rami9225
    @rami9225 2 месяца назад

    Game developers really need to remove aim assist. For the time being I'm using GYRO with aim assist, absolutely busted

  • @mes2009
    @mes2009 2 месяца назад

    R the get banned ?

    • @burnastro9599
      @burnastro9599 2 месяца назад

      No! It works now and supports all games

  • @hollow314
    @hollow314 2 месяца назад

    Need more option really, Steam is annoying to use, reWASD is payed and banned in some games (I think).

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      Who needs more options, Steam or reWASD?

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay 2 месяца назад +2

      @@FlickStickVids yes

    • @reWASD
      @reWASD 2 месяца назад +2

      Hello there. reWASD is not banned, and you can verify it for yourself. While it is a paid tool, it offers many flexible features. We encourage you to try the reWASD trial to experience its capabilities firsthand. Let us know your thoughts!

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay 2 месяца назад

      @@reWASD my thoughts are why is the gyro community one of your biggest clients and you guys still refuse to listen to them and add new gyro features?

    • @hollow314
      @hollow314 2 месяца назад

      To clarify "more options" means more competitors.
      A free and truly open source software need to show up but with only the core features, simple setting and actually works well enough. Giving casuals and beginners a taste and time to learn. Not just for gyro but also controller mapping in general. Something SIMILAR to ds4windows.
      With ViGEmBus dead and it successor still in the work one can only hope.​@@FlickStickVids

  • @eVenent
    @eVenent 2 месяца назад

    Rewasd

  • @Sephsplaces
    @Sephsplaces 2 месяца назад

    I actually didn't like the video, I felt it was weighted heavily into reWASD to be considered genuine, even thought you said near the end you would still use steam input. Personally I wouldn't trust any third party tool that hooks into your m/kb - very likely to be abused and gamebanned - which already has happened - which is a MAJOR drawback. Steam input being baked into steam (and also free) means it will be unlikely to implement features that could get you banned.
    I think it's worth highlighting that steam input is also cross platform, where as reWASD is not.

  • @idkrossplay
    @idkrossplay 2 месяца назад +2

    Best remapper is antimicro why didn't you talk about that jk

    • @LordHecSquad
      @LordHecSquad 2 месяца назад +2

      lol antimicro is INSANE!

  • @gugomajo4161
    @gugomajo4161 2 месяца назад +1

    Stay away from rewasd, awful company

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      Why?

    • @gugomajo4161
      @gugomajo4161 2 месяца назад

      @@FlickStickVids Subscriptiom service, they don’t provide any type of upgrade for old supporters, missing features that have been suggested 3 yrs ago (“it’s in the makings”) I wonder why their trustpilot review is so low

    • @FlickStickVids
      @FlickStickVids  2 месяца назад

      For some reason RUclips is not showing his response, but the arguments given by this user (@gugomaj4161) were:
      It's a subscription service and they didn't provide upgrade for old supporters.
      Their Trustpilot reviews have low scores.
      and missing features that have been suggested.
      His arguments do not reflect my experience and what I think about reWASD, I simply think it's important to leave his comment here so you can make your own research.

  • @eusamuel
    @eusamuel 2 месяца назад

    "This video is gonna be a little bit more technical than the others 🫠"