How is this band DOMINATING the Metal Scene?
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How is this band dominating the metal scene? - Nik talks about the recent success of Thrown despite having on a small amount of music released.
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Already did about a year ago
I slapped it a little too hard this time. Thrown made me do it. 🤘
lowercase "g," like a genus or category, not like a proper noun/name. 👀
No i don't think so
I heard about thrown from Nik and listened to it in my English class for the first time.
ISS was nice that day.
Sometimes I play singles, it gets me hyped. sometimes I play albums for the vibes, the trip, the experience as a whole. We're only humans and that's perfectly fine
As a music enthusiast, I find it really heartbreaking to see this trend going against Albums... like I Love it when an artist puts out an entire album and you listen to it start to finish and you can see the reason why they chose the trackless the way they did maybe the cover art or the music video or the main single all tie in together and create a cohesive listening experience..like a painting in a museum..u don't wanna see half of the Mona Lisa and say "Im good" no you wanna see the whole thing in relation to each other! That's why I love Sleep Token so much because they have been doing that but for their entire discography so far! Specially with Take Me Back to Eden, the whole album is one major experience and the songs have more impact when you know the context of everything. Fuck even just the Summoning or Take me Back to Eden as a song itself is an experience (that's why its fucking 8:20 mins long)... they almost fuse the idea behind what an album is into their singles and hope to cater towards both an audience and the algorithms...
I encourage you to try Odyssey To The West by Slice The Cake then. It's a freaking monster in terms of storytelling.
@@Kyuken_C yo another STC fan in the wild!
Yeah, the way things are going, we're never getting another Black Parade, are we?
Same !! I also listen through whole Albums and often some buried track number 6 or something is a real gem because its a bit more experimental or atypical. And you realise that they did not want this to be the first impression people have of the album but you are happy you discovered that nuance of their sound. Also, if bands wouldnt make albums, we wouldnt have amazing art like the new King Lizard and the gizzard wizard, which just needs that kind of room.
Absolutely agree. I love listening to entire albums. They have a certain energy to them, they're like an artgallery. You can listen to one piece alone or just listen to the entirety and create an own understanding to it.
Also I collect both CD's and Vinyl and in today's age nobody makes single lp's so it sucks to not be able to get some music on analogue.
Buster boy really be cooking
People saying they didn’t earn it naturally sort of is like saying Falling in Reverse didn’t grow naturally. Of course it’s natural, it’s just expedited because you have known people with followings in the group. Slaughter to Prevail would not be at the level they are today without Alex and his crazy following before that project really took off.
I love albums. My playlist is full of albums, and if I start an album, I listen to it all the way through. I don't mind singles, and some singles are particularly awesome. But albums are my preference.
People always complain about this, but good music gets discovered. Short songs, long songs, whatever. All their songs are bangers, that's why they're popular.
Wish boundaries got the same love
honestly this is true, but on darkos self titled album there were so many songs that went unnoticed and all of them hit so hard. I feel like no one had listened to The Last of Us from their self titled album.
For me it's Daniel. Not much recognition, even with Courtney LaPlante. So underrated.
Daniel is one of my favorite Darko songs, its if Donna had a breakdown@@TheLP98
Bro... Fiend Dream is a masterpiece and I've never seen anyone talking about it
Darko's self titled is fucking goated, imo their best release so far.
Yeah that album is full of bangers but they get outshined by Praise the Sun. That song is diabolically good is beyond my comprehension considering how simple the songwriting is lol
I think the best way to do it is releasing alot of singles but still making listening to the whole album worthwhile. Lorna Shore did it with Pain Remains, Mental Cruelty did it with Zwielicht. Both dropped alot of INSANE singles, but the "flow" of the full album made it worth listening to anyways.
I got to see them live in Stockholm supporting Architects and Spiritbox after Loathes tour bus was involved in a accident.
They were great, and the dude in the rain jacket kept it on all through the performance.
I fucking love gray out
Crazy how Sleep Token can also find success doing a similar but opposite thing of putting an entire EP's worth of short tracks into one single track and then release 4 singles like that leading up to a full album release.
Sorry if I'm slow, but that first thing is confusing me. It they took an entire EP, how did it suddenly become a single instead of just still being the EP?
@@perlundgren7797 I think it might become clearer to you if you listen to one of their 7-8 minute tracks. Some of them do sound like 3 different songs or 3 versions of the same song combined into one track.
@@The5thColumn Oh, you meant like that. I just took your comment a bit too literally and thought one of their singles was some kind of rereleased version of an EP. 🙂
Went to check them out on Spotify and noticed I already have some songs liked. Fuck'n good choice past me.
Thrown is my absolute favorite band. It's something new and groovy. I love it.
I saw them live 2-3 years ago when they where about to break through. Didnt know anything about them and had not even heard of them before seeing them live. I knew INSTANTLY when I heard them that they were going to be big. They are INSANE live.
Weird thing is I saw them as a headliner last year in Germany and they only had about 11,5 minutes of official music out.
They have a lot of noises between there songs and played a new one if I remember correctly.
People missed their set because they had to pee.
Kidding. Best 20 minutes in a long time. Thrown owns
I was on their concert in Prague last week. They do hit hard live, it was freaking awesome. Love them, discovered them 2 months ago :D
Your point about just writing a great song and releasing it and continuing on reminded me of how Bilmuri releases his stuff. I want him to hit 1 million 🙏🏻
Excited to see these guys later this year in Australia, their shit slaps from the first song I heard of theirs, I was instantly hooked.
17 minute concert lol
@@scarseven7855 They supporting alpha wolf with TDWP and invent animate, their set is first
ive seen them twice now, they're good
Never heard of them until now. Thanks Nik. I have listened and they are amazing.
Same here
They came up in my recommended shuffle. They fuck.
And fuck hard...
I think I tend to like singles from artists more than full albums because an artist puts all their creativity in to it. An album doesn't always carry that same weight of creativity and i struggle to listen to whole albums. Probably a lot due to consuming short format media like tiktok, but seeing a full creative outcome is always gonna be good
ive seen them live twice and they are fucking amazing on the stage!
Thank you for bringing this Band to my attention. Their incredible
*they're
@@derekzicari2181 I hope you live a long happy life.
Seeing them live this year opening for Alpha Wolf and I'm fucking HYPED
Just seen them at the Impericon festival in Oberhausen. They were great! Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
How long did they play for? 17 minutes?
@@apl2606 I was there too and they were about 25 minutes on stage
Ngl I was thinking boundaries would be “dominating” rn because of the hype I’ve seen around them but holy moly 1 mil is CRAZY for thrown they are sick too
I’m just now getting on the Boundaries bandwagon, and I completely get the hype; Boundaries fucking rips. Their newest album is so dark and introspective, and it all hits me in the same way as some of the best Counterparts material. God I hope they really pop off some day.
Boundaries rules fucking hard, new album is a banger
@@djentrification1631 that counterparts comparison is on point, i just got into boundaries with this latest album and i feel the same vibe from them
I got one of their songs in my Discover weekly and I love the songs that sound kind of like Nü-Core
ERRAs latest releases are good examples of marketing strategy with this theory behind them. They released three singles with videos (separate singles on Spotify), then an EP where they also add a fourth single with video (all four singles combined as an EP on Spotify) and then they released the full album which has all the singles/the EP and more songs, just to cover all the bases; from people who just want banger singles to people who enjoy a good album. Discographies in Spotify for example are becoming hella messy, same song shows in several instances.
I found thrown by accident. And thought it was really fucking cool. I had no idea they had this following and ESPECIALLY didn't know Buster had anything to do with it.
Hello there…
What up
General Kenobi
@@themcabbages77the only correct answer
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@@themcabbages77you are a bold one
They are on my daily playlist. Fucking love 'dwell'
I saw thrown here when Invent Animate brought them. Amazing show. Lineup was solid top to bottom
And now theyre touring Aus with Alpha wolf, invent animate and TDWP. Deserved success!
Because Thrown are amazeballs. Seen them twice already. And merch.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s seeing rock on top, to what it is now is sad to me, but my daughter is 14 and i notice a lot of her friends are liking rock, and going back and listening to stuff i grew up with, with no influence from me so i have some hope.
Buster got that dog in him
I got a thrash metal band called "Berserk Mode", now it has 10k mothly listeners on Spotify. My band consists of thrash songs combined with intros and outros related to video games, chiptunes, etc. These outros and intros are short songs, less than 2 min. Surprisingly these are the most listened songs of my band. With Nik explanation, now I understand why...
Saw them live last summer on their tour in a very small venue in my town in Germany. The line-up (Half Me was also there) was just awesome und Throne just nailed their hole 30 minute set 😂
I started listening to them because they are the 2nd song on the Sleep Token mix on spotify and I love what I am listening to when they come up
I love Thrown and can't wait for an LP 😃
I’ve been listening the fuck out of them for a few months now.
They just keep appearing on my spotify radio. I like
Been listening to thrown from the beginning, I love them so much
so amazing that these were a jump in on a concert here in Sweden cause Loathe had been in a car accident the day before (nobody was hurt)
Im seeing Kublai Khan in Dallas, and if I'm able to walk after that I gotta go see Thrown too
They’re so fucking good. Not a bad song by them yet. Love themmmm.
Can't wait to see them at Rockville
Hit the nail on the head about the album thing. Almost all these songs live on the gym playlist.
I saw them live here in Sweden, a supeise support to spiritbox and Architects , Loath was in a accident so the cancelled… throen just got on the stage with no pre info , i was like fuck I know this band , took me 2-3 bangers snd then I remember hering them so msny times on spotify, had no ide they are Swedish , cool asf !
They dominated on stage also and made the disappointing fact I miss Loath less bad .
Exiting to follow them and see where they gon💪💪🤘🤘
Met them at the last show nice guys
Would laugh if they announced an album this week
2 things: 1. Found Thrown on your Playlist, and fuck yes, that shit is on repeat constantly. 2. Listening to a whole album to pass the work day is why I like putting together my own annual album playlist when you do the "Best Of" for the year. Put that shit on shuffle and let it rip.
WAIT WHAT? I saw those guys 1 year ago on tour with Get The Shot in front of like 200 people?!
I personally like the experience of listening to albums. Spent most of March listening to albums in their entirety - Firewind's 'Stand United', Amaranthe's 'Manifest' and 'The Cataylist', Mr. Big's 'Lean into it', A7X's 'Nightmare', Orbit Culture's 'Descent'. Albums tend to have more of a long-lasting impact than standalone singles IMO.
I totally agree. Solid taste btw
Can't wait to see them again on May 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Do they really just play the eight songs or how do they play live? Just curious
@@teddyk4361 When they opened for Architects in Sweden they played all the songs. Even backfire which was not released at the time
This is interesting insight. I hope albums come back though.
I got tix to Alpha Wolf, Devil Wears Prada, Invent Animate and THROWN! August is when I say goodbye to my eardrums
This is a single show lineup by the way
There are some very special albums that I will listen to all the way through. No time to bleed and the black crown by SS and the Chosen by EE are two that come to mind. I do agree not enough people will go through and listen to a whole album. Kinda miss the old days where I would go to best buy or fye on pay day and buy a whole bunch of cds.
I discovered Thrown a month or so ago on my Spotify recommended. They're sick.
Thrown are playing in australia in august and i hope they have enough to do a longer set by then 🤣
I play Thrown entirely almost every day 😎🔥 glad I'm contributing to their monthly listeners
As someone said in the Twitch chat: I miss albums that tell a story. Yes. I do as well. An album that tells of something arbitrary or in reference to something else from reality or, my personal favorite, a character progression of a band member or of a singular person the band knows. Either way, albums are for listeners and musicians.
Saw these guys supporting ABR on their UK shows. They were fucking good! Simple, no nonsense. Just pounding music and good moshing. It was a good night out!
I’m so keen to see these guys with Alpha wolf in August!
That's why I try to check out the whole EP or Album of a band, if I like their sound.
I checked out the complete discography of Orbit Culture in one night, cause I liked their music so much
I'm old I still listen to albums I would hate it if bands didn't make albums anymore I still buy compact discs
Thrown lives rent free in my head
They kinda give me that Ten56 vibe they should tour with em that be sweet
I was wondering what is this band that keeps getting suggested to me on Spotify
It’s funny I have a couple of their songs on my workout list on Spotify and I didn’t even realize who they were, I just liked the songs hearing them on random. 😂
im proud to say that i helped a lot with the spotify metrics i listen the same 8 thrown songs everyday
Yayyyyy
New nik video
I want to hear your opinion on Hideous Divinity's new album "Unextinct." I had never listened to them previously, but I was pleasantly surprised.
I still listen to full albums and playlist but I still like it
grayscale season is another amazing band that buster produces
Dont look away - The plot in you - such a good song, give it a listen
i enjoy the plot in you, but it took me a few listens to actually start to like them, very interesting style
He did on stream
On the verge is so sick
100% true with the album argument, although the only exception for me was Sleep Token's latest album
I have some things to say about this that no one cares about but here I go: I am of course an avid music enjoyer and albums are my main source of music consumption. Id rather listen to an album, than a playlist, especially if its a good one. Artists create albums for a reason and a lot of metal bands put so much work into them, making them, like others have stated in the comments here, an experience. Thats also why im a huge fan of concept albums that tell a story like "All Mighty Men", "Origine" or "Trinity".
Secondly I am also a musician and Ive written singles an EP and an Album, (the latter two of which are yet to be released) and i wont release any singles for them. I want the listeners to get the album and enjoy it and pick out their favorite songs. If I release my favourites as singles first, some other songs might get lost. So i go against the industry standard. My goal is of course not the same as that of other musicians. I dont want to maximise income and live solely off of my music, its just a hobby and some times I feel like if more musicians focused on the craft of making good music and not conforming to any algorithms, theyd be happier. But idk, im just a young guy who does what he loves. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
They applied the underground hip hop formula to generating plays/likes to metal. Can't hate them for it, it's a smart move given the way we consume music now a days.
Nik is a legend! He has cemented his legacy in the scene of all scenes!
Which scene you say?
....The Seen scene!!!!
I swear if I hear one more FUCKING Thrown song when I finish an album on spotify.....
They are so good ❤
"Woof" - Lochie Keogh(of ALPHAWOLF)
Iterally just watching your videos when i saw this
Thrown is being played on my local rock radio station
Was listening to the Johnny Booth Firsthand Accounts album and then Thrown came on after. Was immediately impressed and followed them. If you haven’t heard Johnny Booth, check them out!
Feeding the algorithm and interacting here. Hi Nik!
absolutely love thrown, saw them live not long ago and they were great
And did they only play for 17 min.?😂 That would be a huge disappointment regarding a live experience right?😮
@@sgefrascz8123 well they weren’t headlining and I wasn’t expecting a longer set from them anyway so my expectations were managed on that front… they also played an unreleased song so the set was a bit longer
They slap. enough said.
Haven’t heard of them but just listened to On the Verge. Very Limp Bizkit Core
they are Opening for Alpha wolf on the aus tour with TDWP And Invent Animate
Interesting! So very interesting.
Well i love good music. If it's a great song i will listen to it, if it's a great album i will listen to it. To make a good album it needs a structure over the whole thing. Best example for this would be Meteora from Linkin Park, the intro builds up the the beat for the first real song and some part of the outro links into the intro of the next song. If you don't mind that effort just release them as singles.
Also some songs will always spike as they get into the playlists i listen to while driving or doing house work.
I can't really speak for the social media part. xD litterly the only interaction with TikTok i have is when Nik makes a video about it.
I think it's also important to note that for a lot of bands - the driving force to create full albums and release them every few years is contract agreements with their labels. I'm sure more bands want to do what thrown is doing, but have other obligations that are stopping them.
In today's world with music basically being "free" to listeners getting more listeners on as many platforms as possible is pretty much a must and whatever strategy best allows for that is the right strategy.
Nik, check out Bilmuri.
He's been pushing out short two minute songs lately and seems to be doing well
Intronaut and Car Bomb are the two bands i HAVE to listen to the whole albums....
You're right, its hard to make a perfectly solid album to listen to the whole thing.
Some bands though, just can't make a bad song enough to skip on the album.
5:52 I think I’m confused here. What do you mean? The songs are broken out into EPs so two songs here, three songs there, etc.