I bought a 4 TB SSD for MSFS 2020 in 2023 Guess I will keep using it for 2020 rather than 2024. The SSD was cheaper than the aviators edition btw lol. 200€ for a bugged game. Thanks god I decided to just try it in gamepass and decide later on which version to buy. But at this point its not even worth the money, guess I'm waiting for a discount here.
never pre-order, never buy day 1, always let someone else do that, and learn from them, we need to stop incentivizing big massive corporations to give us slop. if they stop thinking they can get money first, then make the game after, they'll start making the game first. as it is now, they get the money, then take their sweet assed time maybe, if they feel like it, finish making the game.
Correct. Now wait for updates that break things, while broken things will never be fixed. It's so predictable. MSFS2020 has been out for years, but the flight assistant still manages to crash in a suburb 500 meters from the runway, or ignore an airport completely.
It's on Gamepass...which is how the majority of users are playing, so the pre-order and buy points are moot. The game WILL receive updates and fixes quickly.
Simples. This corporate-led model needs to be opposed…👍🏾. It’s all about the initial release ‘hype’ boat to provide that revenue, followed by post-release care being an afterthought (at least with larger studios).
Funny thing is they did it to us with 2020 and yet people AGAIN didn't learn. I for one won't fall again for the same trick twice. I'll be flying my 2020 for at least 6-9 more months, and only IF 2024 gets to an acceptable level for its price tag I might decide to purchase the Standard version. Oh and the free Canadair that came with the preorder.... how stupid do they think we are?
Couldn't agree more. Don't fork out your hard earned money to be someone's fault finder and beta tester. I am baffled watching so many people tearing their hair out and getting frustrated and stressed, expecting everything to work fine on day 1. Stick with MSFS2020 and enjoy life.
The problem with these publishers releasing these games earlier than when they're actually ready is that the word of mouth about how broken they are spreads fast on the internet. They want to get the sales early and fix things later, but once the tea gets cold, no one cares anymore, especially in the games industry, where there's something new to look at around every corner. No man's Sky, Fall Out 76 and Sea of Thieves are all great games today, but their player numbers reflect that of something niche due to having poor launches. If publishers want players to stay, they have to come out of the gate swinging, and then retain those numbers with content support down the line, but if they're gonna come out cold, people will leave, and once people leave, they usually never come back.
but if everyone already paid there £200 what does it matter eyyyyy moneys in the back - its no live service game. Our entire CULTURE is fast money, how much can we rip the next guy off for. So dont expect anything different any time soon. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I agree. I personally just wait for reviewers after launch, than to believe all the pre-launch hype. Than don't buy a game until the devs have sorted their s..t out. But by then I probably have lost interest and playing something else.
I will stick with msfs 2020. The problem I believe is that, unlike 2020, most of 2024 is streamed from the cloud including the aircraft. Until there is an option for a download like 2020 these problems will continue.
100% agree. I refunded my on series x. Big mistake using cloud. I didn't mind 2020 huge install. Ground is blurry , buildings missing, textures not loading in.
My two cents on the topic: I played MSFS24 for about 20 hours, over 95% in free flight. I just touched the career mode briefly with the first introduction flight. But this worked without any issues. Only the AI voice is terrible, but since I'm not interested in career mode, I really don't care. The issues I had, like most of us, were connection issues. And I was rather surprised MS messed this up so badly. But, again, nothing too terrible since it worked the next day mostly as it should. Compared with the MSFS20 launch this is so much better! I wonder if everybody already forgot how broken the game was. It took ages to load if at all, a boatload of airplanes had only three working switches, Autopliots did not track or, even worse, crashed the plane directly into the ground when activated, game freezes and crashes, all steering configurations were gone from one day to another and so on... On the other hand MSFS24 is way more stable and feature rich. The addition of EFB is a blessing for beginners. Yes, fiddling with LlittleNavMap/Simbrief/Navigraph is fun, but quite hard to get into. For me, programming Garmin/MCDU by hand is one key element of a flight. Having every information (METAR/Runways/ILS frequencies, etc.) directly build into the game makes programming way easier. And big big plus, you can export your route from the on board navigation system into the EFB. Due to different chart versions it was often a guessing game to find a route that can be programmed in LittleNavMap/Simbrief AND your navigation system exactly the same. All in all I must say I am very happy with MSFS 2024. Yes, it is not perfect (and most likely will never be as MSFS2020 never was) but for how I play it's a win. There are a few things I noticed like a glitching auto throttle in the Pilatus PC-12 and still the most annoying thing, even with raytracing on the cockpit lighting is crap. Turning on the overhead lights, even just a bit, should make enough light to see the overhead panel... but you are still looking into a black void. It seems all controll configurations from MSFS2024 are imported but not entirley. Only half of the buttons on my two TM.16000 work as in 2020. And it's a shame your achievements/ flight hours from 2020 are not counting for 2024...
With all the helicopters featured in the trailers, I was hopeful that Asobo had improved the rotorcraft flight model. Nope. They didn't even touch it. There is no ground effect, no weathervaning in forward flight, and the torque pedals behave as an on/off switch. Clearly, no one at Asobo has ever held a cyclic, and they certainly never asked any helicopter pilots for feedback. A huge swing and miss, that once again, third party devs will have to cobble together their own hacked up flight model to paper over Asobo's lack of caring.
It's worse than that. They want to lock us in a game as a service. Notice how they encrypted the plane files, making modding impossible. And notice the "purchase more liveries" button.
I think they just told AI to take 2020 and make a game with it, because this just reeks of AI. Only mistakes that AI can make, I find it hard to believe a game dev made some of these and signed off on it.
@@kyzer97320 Yea I've seen this and this part is disgusting, hopefully it's not the road they're taking, if they do they don't know their fanbase at all.
I will be 77 in two months. Will I be burning in Hell before the flight sim dumpster fire goes out? I took two flights on the second day and the first one in the NX Cub went okay. But the next one was in a Bell 407 helicopter and after flying for 10 minutes or so it became uncontrollable and crashed. At three days after launch I got in the flying lawn chair/drone thing and down low there were trees growing out of the roadway. That's not "photogrammetry" that's photo travesty. I wish Asobo would make another video and let us know IF they can fix it and if so, WHEN. What irritates e most was the control programming set up. I have a bunch of videos on that subject stored for future reference but I wish they would have some official guidance on that, accessible in the sim, instead of letting us figure it out for ourselves. I still haven't attempted to fully set up my controls in FS2020. At least you can apply settings to individual planes in 2024. One more point, the pre-launch get together of flight simmers in LAs Vegas led us to believe everything was figured out and would work well on launch day. WTF happened between then and now?
After the 'let down' of MSFS2020, I decided I would not invest time or money into the 2024 iteration for at least one year. It took a year for MSFS2020 to NOT lock up while flying. None of the issues surprise me at all...
Why is anyone surprised at the Pooched "Launch" that was just a repeat of FS2020; and why does everyone ignore the fact that FS2020 was supposed to have the "Career Mode" that they are hyping for FS2024?
It was supposed to have a lot of things that got pushed to 2024 to sell it as a "new sim" like Seasons And half the "new stuff in 2024 is just freeware we have in 2020 Glad I didn't buy it.
Yeah, I’ve had no issues since the queue ended. Just smooth flying and admiring the views. My wifi isn’t the best but it isn’t that bad either so it shouldn’t be a wifi problem that others are experiencing. I just kinda wish that my hotas would work properly with the game as it is an officially Xbox licences hotas but I’m sure they will fix it in the future.
I was in the 2020 Alpha and had few problems from then until now except for Console oriented updates that screwed it up. That said it was as much an Alpha as 2024 is, on that I agree.
Agreed 100%! Before you uninstall though, try a hot air balloon (regular), start the burners, then switch camera to external a couple of times (might only need once!), I laughed so hard I damn near cried as a sheet of flame was suddenly bursting out form the bottom of the basket, engulfing my pilot in flames... An apt metaphor I felt! :p
I saw one video on Twitter / X the guy took his FlyDoo motorized hot air balloon into Space. And it does appear we can go MUCH higher into space compared to 2020. 🤣 With that said...I fully suspect - when, if this title gets more stable...which I THINK it will someday, someone will slap a few low orbit spacecrafts, event he ISS into the new Marketplace.
My issue with the game is my Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 not being able to map the flight controls. All of the buttons work but I can't use my throttle or flight stick to move the flight controls. Is there another flight stick or control system that would be better to use?
I had the same problem ,overflying airports and the ATC froze and they send you to ridiculous air strips.let’s hope they fix it since they got our money.the walking is ok if your not in a melted city.
I have discovered there is NO Azure data centre in South East Asia - Just 1 Azure availabilty zone in Singapore - so for me launch time is 30+ minutes. When I get in many aircraft missing including the C172 which is pretty critical for gameplay. Graphics look like I'm flying around a Minecraft city - and that is with 350Mbs upload and download - Microsoft should have provided the Azure map as well as stating a minimum download speed
I've had 12 successful flights in the last 3 days. In VR it's mind blowing. Highly recommended, but I would have advised folks stay clear for a couple of weeks until things settle down. I use a VPN to America to get a reliable connection to the servers, and of course that's not right.
It's utterly pathetic. So many bugs it will be a year before they get to them all. All the simps on the forums trying to make excuses for Asobo. I got a refund and then I switched to Game Pass for $1 for 14 days after which I will cancel Game Pass. And no, the servers aren't fixed. New reports today of blurry terrain and missing buildings and long load times.
After the launch imbroglio finally settled down, I’ve enjoyed an excellent VR experience in Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is good, lighting is better than 2020, & scenery is significantly improved. I have 980 hours in 2020, almost all of it in VR; I’m 20 hours into 2024. I’m mainly a VFR scenery tourist, just spawning in mid-air & flying around. My biggest gripe is that some of the planes I purchased in 2020 still aren’t available in 2024.
This post could have been me typing, because it is my exact experience. Oh, how I miss my little Su-26MX. I hope it will be available soon. VR performance was absolutely unusable at first but I realised I had forgotten to update NVidia drivers. Works very well now.
@@ЮрійГордієнко-х2з The mouse will work. And if it stops working, just hit a button on the motion controller, or on an xbox controller if you have one connected, and it will bring the mouse back. It's a minor bug, and easy to work around. They'll fix it.
I was lucky I guess. I waited until I saw all the reviews come flooding in on launch day and didn’t even attempt to download this hot mess. The refund for my Aviators Edition I put in for that evening. Literally within minutes I got an email saying my refund request had been approved. Just got another email a few days ago saying my credit card was being credited with the full amount. Another Microsoft bullet dodged.
But It was very obvious it wasn't ready on the lead up to launch. The SDK was released to devs just 1 month before and was not only bugged but missing core content! The dev streams were only about 3rd party aircraft and the "world" dev stream was dropped without announcement or explanation. There were no review copies sent out and there was no preview footage of the finished game. There was radio silence from the devs on all the features they had promised but not talked about. Then we heard the market place wouldn't be up at launch. I didn't pre purchase but it is even worse than I thought because the game actually looks worse in many cases and has all the same bugs and missing core features as 2020 since 5 years ago! Like crappy immersion breaking bugged road traffic (which they said was improved) and ATC still being in Alpha state on a next NEXT gen flight sim! FPS is actually worse on last gen X3d chips than 2020 and everything being streamed means scenery or textures not loading in properly at times.. And where is all the stuff Jorg said was in the sim in the 2024 seminar? "New satellite imagery across the planet." "Improved and New photogrammetry cities (Twice as many)" "One Million Sq Kilometres New LIDAR data" (Hi res height elevation data) I don't see any of it on the videos I have watched. Finally Jorg also said 2020 would get a patch with the new satellite imagery and stuff the day after 2024 launch, no patch!
The same thing happened when MSFS2020 first came out - didn't work - bugs, etc. That's why I never bought MSFS2024 and probably won't for a year - Which is what I did with MSFS2020
I've tried the career several times and it will refuse to acknowledge when I'm looking at the controls it wants me to. Unable to move forward, simply won't notice that I am actually looking at the RPM indicator.
It's time we just stop buying all these big AAA title companies games because Black ops 6 they had four years to develop and it's trash I also play NHL series games made by EA sports and the new NHL 25 it's trash Microsoft flight simulator 2024 it's trash I can go on and on also DCS is lying to their customers and not finishing products that people buy an early access phases
So was 2020. The amount of updates and fixed since release is staggering. But it's the new black. Release a beta, then develop with community feedback.
Data consumption is my biggest problem, even with photogrammetry off it's too much, and yeah there are so many bugs but it's mainly the career mode than anything else, the launch is bad but common it's definitely not as bad as cyberpunk or NMS, definitely not NMS. The biggest thing they need to do is let us download the planes, don't stream the planes because streaming it feels very inconsistent, sometimes textures are there other times it's missing, so many missing sounds, just let us download the planes. Following that it has to be career mode, it's bad, it's extremely buggy.
For me, 2024 has been running better than 2020 ever did, with less bugs and less crashes, since the day after launch. Major issue the game was having wasn't the game. It was nVIDIA driver issues. Thankfully I went AMD years ago and never regretted it.
There is no way to sort or filter your list of missions in career mode so it gets crazy. You no longer can see other player names within 50 NM, it's less than 5 NM so you struggle to track your friends flying nearby. Pilatus PC 24 landing gear never retracts. Those are just off the top of my head.
I agree on the friends multiplayer implementation, definitely need some improvements. As well as some netcode improvements for updating positions, planes and character models. But overall pretty happy with the rest.
I'm kind of happy they released it but it should have been clearly labelled as a beta, not been launched as a full release and the rollout staged over a week or two. It's definitely not "customer release" quality software at the moment. My main annoyances at the moment: - Engine sound seems to work on about a quarter of launches - Sometimes trigger look on my flightstick works and sometimes it doesn't - Water handling is broken, possibly worse than in 2020! For example the Carbon Cub will backflip with full throttle and full up elevator - Weird resets flying through gates in the time trials. It's not even the same as hitting something, it simply resets you back a bit with no message why. I've only tried this so far in the Carbon Cub and it's currently unplayable. - Crazy default config for my Thrustmaster stick and pedals. It's one of the most common around and the rudder defaulted to the throttle and the pedals initially! - Oversensitive controls feeling like early FS2020 where you needed to adjust the control curves manually I've not tried either photo or career mode myself so can't comment on those.
It’ll be interesting to see how many of the existing bugs will last over the next four years, while they add ‘new great’ other features. That’s Osobos track record so far.
I'm not surprised at all, when 2020 came out it had so many bugs when they fixed one or 2 bugs, 4 more bugs popped out.. Asobo spent so much time fixing bugs that they only got enough of them fixed by the end of 2023, LOL And many more bugs are still there, when they announced they was coming out with MSFS 2024, said 2024, why don't you fix 2020 before you come out with a new simulator i mean really? Microsoft made a huge mistake giving MSFS project to ASOBO, they are a laughing stalk.. now i see 2024 is out and see how many bugs they are here, it's like 2020 all over again only worst.. Want a really great simulator, get Prepar3D v6, or v5 either of them are way better and more solid and DON'T have bugs.. and everything works.. Dude the biggest mistake Microsoft made was not building this them self, and handing the contract over to ASOBO, ASOBO should be ashamed of them self's. Their software engineer are way below standards, they can't handle this type of project, well it's obvious isn't it, i mean the product speaks for itself you don't have to take my word for it. If i could talk to Bill Gates in person i would say Bill, what is going on with Microsoft these days why are they handing MSFS to an incompetent company like ASOBO? WHY they are making Microsoft look bad, these people that ASOBO has working there is incompetent people, they butchered MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024.. Very Sad................. I got banned from the MSFS 2020 forum for mentioning this and speaking my opinion on this and they banned me and labeled the reason (too combative) They Just can't handle the truth..
I’m in a suburb of NYC. Load times yesterday took 49 minutes. Sim crashed to desktop while I was exploring efb in c172. Second load time was again 49 minutes. Intenet speed in home is 500 mbs. So I’m not seeing improvements in the servers. I don’t have time to wait an hour to get in.
Most licenses have ZERO training available, commercial helicopters license offers ZERO paid missions. Several licenses aren’t even available and are just place holders. Career mode is pre-alpha, but paid $130 for it? I feel confident they will fix these, but how in the heck was this even released in this 20% complete state??
I understand the sentiment. We would like to have games to be playable Day 1. Unfortunately people buying hype and companies happy to sell whatever they have at the moment and fix (maybe) later. While demand is high situation will not improve. At the same time I'd like to give Microsoft some credit for keeping flight simulator alive and mostly up to date, especially global Earth coverage. Nobody else can do it on such a huge scale and luckily it's not using Unreal engine 5.
When I requested a REFUND from Microsoft UK they denied it immediately saying that this was because I'd requested too many refunds this year. Complete BS because I'd not requested any at all! Until now. So this means that I now have to explain UK Consumer Law to MS by proxy and by asking PayPal to open a dispute with Microsoft UK. Pretty appalling eh? Why did I request a refund? Put simply there was no way I could get to fly even though I am a merry IFR pilot in MSFS 2020 - but also because if you fly over Europe's highest sand dune (Dune Du Pilat) near Arcachon in France and compare the scenery that 2020 provides (via add-ons) to what 2024 does - its a disgrace. AND whatever happened to 'SAVE FLIGHT'?????
I had the sim for one month. I only got it to work for about two hours. I spent most of my time waiting for it to load. My PC is miles above the optimal requirements and my internet is super fast one gig up and down. Finally I asked and got a full refund. Over the next several months I plan on monitoring the channels to see if it has greatly improved and if it does I might repurchase it. In the meantime I do expect a good sale on the product once sales fall before a certain level.
I was never able to successfully download 2020. The download would always crash and never complete no matter how much time I spent trying. For me, 2024 has been great! Day one was awful, but since then I’ve been playing relatively seamlessly
Is it perfect? No. Is it polished? HARD NO. Will it get better? Yes. 2020 was a dumpster fire for a LONG time. 2024 is playable if you don’t have 3rd world country internet. I definitely saw some performance issues, but 2020 had that too. I think with a few months time, it will improve a lot.
My plane spawned in on a hill in career mode. When I removed the wheel blocks the plane started rolling down the hill without me in it. Good job Microsoft.
I had an airport deny my VFR request on a perfectly clear day. Decided to request IFR anyways, just to not get the penalty, then my enter key was shown on the top right of the screen to acknowledge clearance, and to request taking off again. The game chose to put me on an endless "request IFR clearance" loop instead of acknowledging atc. I took off anyways and was straight up denied landing. This was all at an airport with an X'd out runway, mind you.
I tend to be torn on the issue. I think no matter how thorough game developers are, games will always be shaky at launch to some extent. but I think we can all agree that early access culture has been a net negative for the gaming industry as a whole and has definitely made the problem worse, or so it seems. The technical structure of games has not remained static and games themselves continue to be larger and more complex than ever before. Surely the larger the game and the larger the scope, the more difficult it is to achieve perfection on a day one launch. I think developers have to be held more accountable, but I also think that gamers have to manage their own expectations and exercise a little bit of patience and understanding every once in a while too. It goes both ways
Oh, come on. It is not the worst failure, it is the MOST RECENT failure. You will be yelling about another live service game launch next week and will likely forget all about this one. FO76 is great now, btw.
No Man's Sky shows to Video Games industry the correct past of redemption. Hello Games guys, in my humble opinion, are in the top of industry and the way that shows love and care to his customers. All the updates, and expeditions are completely free, they don't use micro transaction to increase his profits.
Yup, I’m where you are at in terms of frustration, half of the planes won’t even load without freezing. Missions having me take off from a runway that don’t exist, invisible flight patterns and on it goes. I uninstalled it I got so pissed off with it
I bought the tbm for vip charter and sold my old plane to do so big mistake. plane didn’t have fuel. and gave me 7 different error codes on different missions. literally unplayable. thinking about selling the tbm for 200k loss because i can’t even play.
I love flying 1 1/2 - 2 hrs just for my engine just to stop working entirely or them not putting enough fuel in my plane. Also love sitting still and getting penalized for putting my flaps down while sitting still. Can’t even earn enough money to get my company.
I've had my share of preorder disappointments and this is one of them. The beta testing didn't occur before the initial release. That was Alfa testing. The beta testing is NOW and we're all the testers. To be fair, there are some things that I believe 2024 does better than 2020. The new trees and seasons are very good and getting out of the aircraft and walking around is really nice as well. I greatly look forward to MS actually polishing the sim over time
I returned msfs 2024 for a refund...the not mapping the simple inputs for joystick controls and making it very difficult to give your inputs for your controller was the final straw. Been playing since msfs 2000..So sad ...
You didn't even get to the part of the career mode where you helo starts bouncing before loading has finished and you are hit with crash and wrecking of your reputation, not to mention its completely unplayable at this point.
Great video mate. I'm one of the players who downloaded via xbox gamepass as there was no way I was paying before a proper test. The release was a complete cluster...k. I'm a patient guy (65 now) but I was livid when it released. Everyone said it would happen but ms and asobo basically waved their two fingers at us. Like you say, after the servers settled down it runs and looks lovely but the career mode, while being really enjoyable just regularly kicks you in the balls. Regularly crashing (including on final which means you have to fly that mission again....from scratch) and often crashing after you've landed and taxiid in. Irritating but at least your progress is saved. This version was supposed to be better, direct x 12, newer engine, bells and whistles etc. If I was head honcho at MS quite a few of these people would have been picking up their unemployment cheque the following Monday. Looks like they learned nothing after the fiasco of 2020......and that is inexcusable!! Liked and subscribed :)
Thanks for the warnings. I waited 2-1/2 years before going from FSX to MSFS 2020. Read EVERYTHING and knew how to tweak before buying. NOW!!!! I KNEW this was going to be a FLOP!!!!. It will be YEARS before it MIGHT be fixed. MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE DROPPED AND MSFS 2026 will be a masterpiece.
I am truly sorry and sympathetic of your negative experience. I wish I could share my experience. Mine is quite the opposite of all this negativity (though understandable). Yes, day one was impossible. Since, I have been in awe of how superior 24 is over 20. I sincerely hope it works out for you in the future.
On game pass, it literally doesn’t even work at all. Can’t get past the first career mission, controls don’t work and it doesn’t tell you how to access the menus it wants you to get into. Free flight crashes before I even get to the runway. It’s absolute garbage. See ya!
F this game dude, keeps crashing, drop rating for no reason, crash mid flight, gamepass player so luckly didnt cost anything but as annoying as what you can get
The ONLY problem i have with the game/sim is about 75% of the time i leave a flight....the menu glitches so bad that navigation is impossible without having to hard close the application. Im playing gamepass because i dodnt plan to purchase until after my 4080 build in a few weeks.
Been playing on Gamepass, and man it's been a nightmare. I'm a VR gamer, so seeing the game has a VR mode and all that I was overjoyed. MSFS has all kinds of little things to meddle with, which is like 90% of the fun of virtual reality. HOWEVER. The game is simply broken. Setting up VR is enough of a nightmare - I have a 4060ti, so not the beefiest of VR hardware but certainly no slouch, but even then I had to dial many things well and far back in order to simply get a framerate that won't result in sickness even passively staring in one direction with everything moving slowly on screen. Not a deal breaker, it's a heavy game, and nothing in the world is optimized these days, so not a surprise. But but but.... the controls... oh boy, the controls. So I got a Quest 3, using virtual desktop to play. I use the controllers, because the hand tracking is a nightmare. Or I would use the controllers, but the thing keeps trying to jump to hand tracking whenever it can. So I'm always fighting the system trying to switch to hand tracking, pressing buttons over and over to get it to re-enable the controllers. I figured I could try to maybe use a xbox controller instead, especially for other issues I'll get to in a second, but I wanted to have a vr controller on hand just in case I need it for more poke-and-do tasks. Thing is, if I have the analog stick even slightly moved, the VR controller turns off and I gotta go smashing buttons to turn it on again.. all the while, it's still trying to override the xbox controller with hand tracking while I'm actively using the xbox controller. Now if it's using the vr controllers "properly" it's still astonishingly half assed. You know the standard "hold the home button to recenter your view" of every single VR game ever made? Well, count this as the one that doesn't do that. You hit left shift on the keyboard, or the X button (closer button) on the left controller. Yep, on of the main action buttons is the recenter view button, instead of the standard. Now when you get out of the airplane, that's when things get especially ridiculous. There is no way in VR on the VR controllers to rotate your view. You cannot turn. Well then, what does the right stick do? Simple! Nothing. Nothing at-fucking-all, it does absolute jack shit. The right grip button is your crouch button. Yep, they remembered the crouch button, even though you will auto-crouch near your wings and don't actually even need a manual crouch button, but you can't turn. Despite ALL THIS so far, I haven't even got to the worst problem with the game. You might have been expecting this, but surprise surprise, it doesn't even function. I can dick around in free flight, but I wanted to get some actual tasks done.. so... seeing as I have near no idea what I'm doing, I went into the activities, tutorials, and started at square one. First red flag? The description box reads something like "basiccontrols_tutorial_VR" or the like. Launch it, they give the little rundown "I'll be your teacher, blah blah blah, this is a cessna, blah blah blah" and finally "hide the yoke with your controller of choice." So I poke the yoke, it disappears, the tutorial lady says "Great!" and then.... nothing! No further task loads, nothing happens. For a few frames, it flashes "use the cursor to interact with the cabin" on the task box, but I've poked every last button in that airplane, it doesn't progress the tutorial. I've started the thing up and smashed into the hangar doors. Nothing. I've got out of the plane and walked in the one and only pre-determined direction I'm allowed to face. Nothing. So that's it. First step of the first tutorial, and I can go no further. I could go on about the keyboard randomly turning off and being unable to access the menu, the game locking the mouse so hard alt+tab doesn't release it, the task manager being BEHIND the game and me having to straight up hold my PC's power button to get out of it... but yeah... Anyway, I gave em a 1 star review.
Day one was a loss, ran fantastic last night and I saw the potential. I do hate having to redo 4 yrs of settings and not having my hanger. But this too will pass.
The horrendous TTS voices in career mode ruin any immersion, the cloud is awful, let me download as much as I want to. My DCS install is 700GB, I'll give MSFS2024 1TB for the areas I actually fly. The whole thing has so much potential, but it just doesn''t work.
I honestly couldn't even get to the gameplay. I use the TCA Boeing yoke pack and the throttle is just unusable. I tried for around 2 hours and couldn't get the throttles to stop going up and down on their own. Setting it up in 2020 was a walk in the park compared to 2024.
Unfortunate for so many! Best graphics, realism and flight dynamics for this customer! Surpasses all previous versions and other platforms by a landslide!
Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode but the majority of the experience after day one has been a huge improvement. From its substantially better flight model to its huge graphics update it’s very very good. also a hardcore sim will always drop player counts shortly after launch when the casual market that come to see what its all about and realize that most won’t stick around. You don’t need to keep playing but making a video acting like this game doesn’t work at all is disingenuous at best. Not to mention it does more harm than good.
"Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode" .... "disagree" all you like buddy the FUCKING FACTS are, it is buggy... I FUCKING LITERALLY SHOWED SEVERAL OF THE BUGS HAPPENING, IN THIS VERY VIDEO, FOR FUCKS SAKE just for your dumbass to pretend they don't exist. Piss off mate.
The bugs aren’t minor at all. I’ve seen a load of visual bugs. Hidden character, aircraft or scenery textures. Airports that look like crap, merged world objects, Autopilot no longer or barely working, poor and unresponsive UI, poor menu design, frequent crashing. Terrible AI voices in career mode, messed up taxi pathways, I could go on and more.
While the new fun features sound flawed currently I'm still fairly happy with it as a core simmer. The visuals and performance have seen a serious improvement which matters to me most. Once PMDG aircraft are ported over I'm really going to enjoy this one. I do agree though it was released too early, and it was because 2024 was in the name. We also don't know what happened behind the scenes. It's very likely Asobo's hands where tied trying to keep M$ happy. I'm very optimistic about the future of this Sim.
I was disappointed in the water texture effects when flying close to the surface… seems non existent. And what’s with the skid marks any time you’re using normal braking??
I don't think we are playing the same game. The water was stunning when I played it. very realistic waves, and then when I was flying around the bahamas, I saw all the reefs under the water. beautiful!
Don't know if it's just me but I'm so glad someone has finally said it. Even after the atrocious connectivity issues on day 1 / 2 there's still so much wrong with the game. It's ALMOST forgivable to have had those server issues considering it's the first of it's kind to attempt to stream a massive game like this but the actual game itself is full of bugs and issues that I just can't look past and haven't seen any of the big sim RUclipsrs mentioning. For me it's mainly been controller and audio issues.
No, it’s not. So, it’s all our fault, seriously? People like you think they’re smart leaving these condescending comments, but in reality it’s just super toxic and disrespectful to the flight sim community.
i purchased fs2020 on pc and played it for about 10hours. then turn off the pc the the next morning im back on the pc and theres no game?? WTF going on the game is gone the only thing left is the file folder.?? i payed over $200 for it to only disappears on me, has this ever happen to any one.
The main problem i'm having is that I am enjoying the game but the past 2 days it crashes to the desktop every 10 to 20 minutes completely exiting the game.
The servers aren't ok. In the UK the main issues were fixed by day 3 after release. But then they came back with a vengeance at the weekend and are still happening now. It's impossible to launch a flight in any mode of gameplay.
After seeing the incredible early reviews I was very excited to try FS2024. I've been an avid FS2020 user since its launch day which provided a very impressive and stable product. Surely, I thought, FS2024 would at least be as good at its launch. However, after two hours of frustration with settings and poor performance on my RTX4070, I requested a refund. I'll probably try it again, but not until reviews of the actual product indicate that it's been largely fixed.
Completely agree with this excellent assessment. Bought it like most people on day 1 and not had a single flight. Screen aberrations the minute i load up a plane which appear to be air flow metrics or something in Free Flight mode, sound disappears, drone mode doesn't work etc etc. Game was not ready for release and still isn't. Its a shame as it will eventually sort itself out but i think months not weeks
It will take longer than a month to fix this and i would venture that there needs to be architectural changes before I would be interested again. I wish they had stuck to the core pillars that made 2020 a success.
some things you mentioned are bugs like the flaps, some things like lights are just standard operational practice, are their bugs? yes, are the instructions inconsistant for newer less knowledgable players? yes, is it broken beyond playable? no as ive posted consistant A/S grades for flights without using the visual flight path and markers. that said its still unacceptable that the game has bugs and that it is NOT FEATURE COMPLETE. not shouting at anyone just making the point stand out in the comments.
The career mode is fun. Rumor is they are adding a micro transaction system to it. With the right addon plane like the fenix it’s usable. Most of the issues seem to be sever issues so they need to let us download as much as we want. Stream scenery is fine but everything should be local
Deducting points for not doing something you weren't told to do and that doesn't make sense (taxi light) sounds like my boss at work. Always on the wait for you to do something wrong so they can AHA!! you, instead of telling people what to expect today. That said I've known several real flight schools that always do the whole lights for specific stages of flight. They'll start engines and do control checks with only the red beacon on, then turn the taxi light on to move along the taxiway, then turn it back off again when they come to a stop (even if it's just to let other aircraft pass them) and turn it back on before they move again. Usually it's the Airline cadet programs doing that, because they're the only nerds flying their Cessna 172's or Diamond DA40's like they are 787's. The usual flying club bozos usually either just turn it on once the engine electrics are sorted and leave it on forever, or just turn it on for runway entry (it's not to let you see, it's for the ATC tower to see that you're the one with the clearance intending to move forwards) Though, they really should say it at the beginning of the set, or even "From here on, always turn the taxi light on any time the aircraft is going to move in a movement area of the airport" as an audio file during some relevant lesson, and a backup reminder at the beginning of the next flight. That said many instructors will, do and imo SHOULD be backing off their instruction of basics as you progress. Going from discussing everything you should do in your first lesson, till they're basically sitting there deaf dumb and mute and only giving the most overaching of instructions like "ok, demonstrate a steep turn to the left" and then letting you get a few things wrong before asking why you didn't: clear your direction of turn by lifting the right wing first before starting the left turn, why you lost 200ft, and why you didn't roll out at the heading bug properly. and then making you do it again till you get it right. Examiners are worse, they will let you get something wrong right at the beginning, say nothing, then fail you at the end.
Personally as a simmer I was frustrated till Friday due I was unable to have a single flight due to server isssus. But since then it’s been working fine, and is an improvement in ways over 2020 but there are small issues I’m sure will be fixed in carrier mode. Personally as simmers we mostly use free flight and plan are own flights or throu a VA or app. Personally I think streaming the sim without a download option is not smart and can make the game unusable if there is an internet outage. With any sim there tends to be issues for the first month or so due to the complexity of FS. You are ment to use your lights in daylight but it should have prompted you. But there are in game atc issues and bugs. But overall I’m happy as a simmer and it’s really early days in a new sim. But I think there issues of many developers rushing out games even addons without proper testing. I think the server issues should off been spotted as a week point earlier by MS, I agree it’s not ready for all and maybe if they felt compelled to release it to release it as a open Beta or Alpha and be up front of the bugs.
Absolute steaming heap. Makes CDPR's initial release of Cyberpunk 2077 actually look quite acceptable. Thankfully I'm largely an X-Plane 12 user (which is arguably a better "flight" simulator, though not as good a "terrain" simulator), I tried FS2024 on Game Pass, which I have anyway, even though it didn't cost me any extra money, even I'm insulted by what a total disgrace it is. Disgusting release.
It only took me 5 days to set up my controller bindings. The servers are working better because the provisioned the load balancing and enabled auto scaling.
Are the servers fixed? I have tried and tried to load since day one, up until yesterday (Sunday). It NEVER got past 98%. I had no intention to leave it loading for more hours than a game from the era of cassettes would have taken to load. I have requested a refund, as, up until yesterday I was not on game pass. If this does get fixed, yes I would certainly re-install it on my Series X. Nearly one week in and it is still a total farce. Forget 'Cloud' streaming and give us a FULL INSTALLATION. ***Update***......They have refused to refund me. Why does that NOT surprise me.
They got themselves way to in over their heads. Our technology and the max limits have kind of stalled. We almost have pushed it to the limits and it looks like we are not sure how we can computers or games any better. To the point where studios try to focus on eye candy but leave out the most important aspects.
Career mode also penalizing me for taxiing over the runway, while it's the only way to get to the hold short position. I also suffered from not seeing the flight path, until I realized you can toggle this on or off by pressing the L-button (on Xbox).
I think I will enjoy the story and game modes, though I would prefer a 2020 expansion then a brand new game. I will say it has potential. One thing I haven't figured out is the control set up. Each time I start the game it wipes away my custom inputs. The best thing so far about this game is it got me to play 2020 again.
When they mentioned "cloud streaming" on a game that relied on GBs and TBs of data, I knew this was a bad idea! OR....give us an option if we fly the plane locally, let us download that specific area for "offline mode" - like Google Maps lets us do for our phones. I KNEW all too well there would be bugs on this last Tues, launch day...but not this bad. I've had a few decent flights, but I have to wait until after 11:30pm ET to do this, or 3am...maybe 6-7am...(flights in Prime Time, perhaps heavier peak time?) are useless! The A400 Atlas, this totally crashes my Sim...one plane I was looking forward to. Other planes are dysfunctional also. With holiday week here, more and more kids, teens home, college kids that may like Flight Sim, the servers again may get overloaded. Who knows. I HOPE.....HOPE after such a long wait, excitement for this title gets bug fixes...multiple in the next few weeks (I'm dreaming, I realize). You're right, it IS unfinished!! ..So, I'll go back to 2020...which I bought in 2022 and it was great (few Sim Updates DID f- it up though...but fixed eventually), it's a far more stable title compared to this 2024.
![[MSFS 2024] Deep Dive into the autopilot functionality - Works for all Modern Aircraft](/img/1.gif)
I'd rather download 500 gb onto the hard drive than rely on the "cloud".
it has one and a half billion trees alone so would be bigger than 500 gb lol
They aren't all unique trees... they are just copying and pasted everywhere a set of trees.
@newworlddisorder156
@@newworlddisorder156 The pricipal behind what was said still holds strong 💪
I bought a 4 TB SSD for MSFS 2020 in 2023 Guess I will keep using it for 2020 rather than 2024. The SSD was cheaper than the aviators edition btw lol. 200€ for a bugged game. Thanks god I decided to just try it in gamepass and decide later on which version to buy. But at this point its not even worth the money, guess I'm waiting for a discount here.
The whole game is petabytes of data
never pre-order, never buy day 1, always let someone else do that, and learn from them, we need to stop incentivizing big massive corporations to give us slop. if they stop thinking they can get money first, then make the game after, they'll start making the game first.
as it is now, they get the money, then take their sweet assed time maybe, if they feel like it, finish making the game.
Correct. Now wait for updates that break things, while broken things will never be fixed. It's so predictable. MSFS2020 has been out for years, but the flight assistant still manages to crash in a suburb 500 meters from the runway, or ignore an airport completely.
It's on Gamepass...which is how the majority of users are playing, so the pre-order and buy points are moot. The game WILL receive updates and fixes quickly.
Simples. This corporate-led model needs to be opposed…👍🏾. It’s all about the initial release ‘hype’ boat to provide that revenue, followed by post-release care being an afterthought (at least with larger studios).
Funny thing is they did it to us with 2020 and yet people AGAIN didn't learn. I for one won't fall again for the same trick twice. I'll be flying my 2020 for at least 6-9 more months, and only IF 2024 gets to an acceptable level for its price tag I might decide to purchase the Standard version. Oh and the free Canadair that came with the preorder.... how stupid do they think we are?
Couldn't agree more. Don't fork out your hard earned money to be someone's fault finder and beta tester. I am baffled watching so many people tearing their hair out and getting frustrated and stressed, expecting everything to work fine on day 1. Stick with MSFS2020 and enjoy life.
The problem with these publishers releasing these games earlier than when they're actually ready is that the word of mouth about how broken they are spreads fast on the internet. They want to get the sales early and fix things later, but once the tea gets cold, no one cares anymore, especially in the games industry, where there's something new to look at around every corner. No man's Sky, Fall Out 76 and Sea of Thieves are all great games today, but their player numbers reflect that of something niche due to having poor launches. If publishers want players to stay, they have to come out of the gate swinging, and then retain those numbers with content support down the line, but if they're gonna come out cold, people will leave, and once people leave, they usually never come back.
Well said
but if everyone already paid there £200 what does it matter eyyyyy moneys in the back - its no live service game. Our entire CULTURE is fast money, how much can we rip the next guy off for. So dont expect anything different any time soon. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I agree. I personally just wait for reviewers after launch, than to believe all the pre-launch hype. Than don't buy a game until the devs have sorted their s..t out. But by then I probably have lost interest and playing something else.
I will stick with msfs 2020. The problem I believe is that, unlike 2020, most of 2024 is streamed from the cloud including the aircraft. Until there is an option for a download like 2020 these problems will continue.
exactly
100% agree. I refunded my on series x. Big mistake using cloud. I didn't mind 2020 huge install. Ground is blurry , buildings missing, textures not loading in.
I didn’t know you couldn’t download. That’s a deal breaker! Wow.
No doubt it is a stupid decision. Funny enough, It takes longer or at least as long as it took to load the sim or a flight with 2020.
But the cloud works now?
My two cents on the topic:
I played MSFS24 for about 20 hours, over 95% in free flight. I just touched the career mode briefly with the first introduction flight. But this worked without any issues. Only the AI voice is terrible, but since I'm not interested in career mode, I really don't care.
The issues I had, like most of us, were connection issues. And I was rather surprised MS messed this up so badly. But, again, nothing too terrible since it worked the next day mostly as it should. Compared with the MSFS20 launch this is so much better! I wonder if everybody already forgot how broken the game was. It took ages to load if at all, a boatload of airplanes had only three working switches, Autopliots did not track or, even worse, crashed the plane directly into the ground when activated, game freezes and crashes, all steering configurations were gone from one day to another and so on...
On the other hand MSFS24 is way more stable and feature rich. The addition of EFB is a blessing for beginners. Yes, fiddling with LlittleNavMap/Simbrief/Navigraph is fun, but quite hard to get into. For me, programming Garmin/MCDU by hand is one key element of a flight. Having every information (METAR/Runways/ILS frequencies, etc.) directly build into the game makes programming way easier. And big big plus, you can export your route from the on board navigation system into the EFB. Due to different chart versions it was often a guessing game to find a route that can be programmed in LittleNavMap/Simbrief AND your navigation system exactly the same.
All in all I must say I am very happy with MSFS 2024. Yes, it is not perfect (and most likely will never be as MSFS2020 never was) but for how I play it's a win. There are a few things I noticed like a glitching auto throttle in the Pilatus PC-12 and still the most annoying thing, even with raytracing on the cockpit lighting is crap. Turning on the overhead lights, even just a bit, should make enough light to see the overhead panel... but you are still looking into a black void. It seems all controll configurations from MSFS2024 are imported but not entirley. Only half of the buttons on my two TM.16000 work as in 2020. And it's a shame your achievements/ flight hours from 2020 are not counting for 2024...
With all the helicopters featured in the trailers, I was hopeful that Asobo had improved the rotorcraft flight model. Nope. They didn't even touch it. There is no ground effect, no weathervaning in forward flight, and the torque pedals behave as an on/off switch. Clearly, no one at Asobo has ever held a cyclic, and they certainly never asked any helicopter pilots for feedback. A huge swing and miss, that once again, third party devs will have to cobble together their own hacked up flight model to paper over Asobo's lack of caring.
Microsoft is just saving money. They want you to do the user testing for them and then they will fix the bugs as you report it.
It's worse than that. They want to lock us in a game as a service. Notice how they encrypted the plane files, making modding impossible. And notice the "purchase more liveries" button.
I think they just told AI to take 2020 and make a game with it, because this just reeks of AI. Only mistakes that AI can make, I find it hard to believe a game dev made some of these and signed off on it.
@@kyzer97320 Yea I've seen this and this part is disgusting, hopefully it's not the road they're taking, if they do they don't know their fanbase at all.
@@beardedlonewolf7695Msfs is overrated anyway
lol well I have 88 minutes into the game, and I'm going to request a refund.
I will be 77 in two months. Will I be burning in Hell before the flight sim dumpster fire goes out? I took two flights on the second day and the first one in the NX Cub went okay. But the next one was in a Bell 407 helicopter and after flying for 10 minutes or so it became uncontrollable and crashed. At three days after launch I got in the flying lawn chair/drone thing and down low there were trees growing out of the roadway. That's not "photogrammetry" that's photo travesty. I wish Asobo would make another video and let us know IF they can fix it and if so, WHEN. What irritates e most was the control programming set up. I have a bunch of videos on that subject stored for future reference but I wish they would have some official guidance on that, accessible in the sim, instead of letting us figure it out for ourselves. I still haven't attempted to fully set up my controls in FS2020. At least you can apply settings to individual planes in 2024. One more point, the pre-launch get together of flight simmers in LAs Vegas led us to believe everything was figured out and would work well on launch day. WTF happened between then and now?
They will make you play this game in hell just to torture you
After the 'let down' of MSFS2020, I decided I would not invest time or money into the 2024 iteration for at least one year. It took a year for MSFS2020 to NOT lock up while flying. None of the issues surprise me at all...
Why is anyone surprised at the Pooched "Launch" that was just a repeat of FS2020; and why does everyone ignore the fact that FS2020 was supposed to have the "Career Mode" that they are hyping for FS2024?
I have a feeling 2024 started out as just an update for 2020. The biggest tell is SteamVR thinking it is running MSFS 2020 when it is running 2024.
It was supposed to have a lot of things that got pushed to 2024 to sell it as a "new sim" like Seasons
And half the "new stuff in 2024 is just freeware we have in 2020
Glad I didn't buy it.
I had waaaaaaaaay less problems with 2024, 2020 took me a week to get it to start and performance in VR was a joke until now.
Yeah, I’ve had no issues since the queue ended. Just smooth flying and admiring the views. My wifi isn’t the best but it isn’t that bad either so it shouldn’t be a wifi problem that others are experiencing. I just kinda wish that my hotas would work properly with the game as it is an officially Xbox licences hotas but I’m sure they will fix it in the future.
VR got better yeah? Still need to buy 2024 but I've a bit older CPU with a 4090 though and hope 2024 uses the CPU more so also GPU gets utilized more.
I was in the 2020 Alpha and had few problems from then until now except for Console oriented updates that screwed it up.
That said it was as much an Alpha as 2024 is, on that I agree.
Career Mode is Terrible. I'm getting all the same glitches too. This really was confusing and frustrating. and expensive.
Agreed 100%! Before you uninstall though, try a hot air balloon (regular), start the burners, then switch camera to external a couple of times (might only need once!), I laughed so hard I damn near cried as a sheet of flame was suddenly bursting out form the bottom of the basket, engulfing my pilot in flames... An apt metaphor I felt! :p
In VR, every time I looked up toward the burners, the ballon collapses!
I saw one video on Twitter / X the guy took his FlyDoo motorized hot air balloon into Space. And it does appear we can go MUCH higher into space compared to 2020. 🤣
With that said...I fully suspect - when, if this title gets more stable...which I THINK it will someday, someone will slap a few low orbit spacecrafts, event he ISS into the new Marketplace.
My issue with the game is my Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 not being able to map the flight controls. All of the buttons work but I can't use my throttle or flight stick to move the flight controls. Is there another flight stick or control system that would be better to use?
I had the same problem ,overflying airports and the ATC froze and they send you to ridiculous air strips.let’s hope they fix it since they got our money.the walking is ok if your not in a melted city.
I have discovered there is NO Azure data centre in South East Asia - Just 1 Azure availabilty zone in Singapore - so for me launch time is 30+ minutes. When I get in many aircraft missing including the C172 which is pretty critical for gameplay. Graphics look like I'm flying around a Minecraft city - and that is with 350Mbs upload and download - Microsoft should have provided the Azure map as well as stating a minimum download speed
I downloaded it as soon as it got released on pc gamepass, I flew a plane once in 48 hours and stopped trying since.
I've had 12 successful flights in the last 3 days. In VR it's mind blowing. Highly recommended, but I would have advised folks stay clear for a couple of weeks until things settle down. I use a VPN to America to get a reliable connection to the servers, and of course that's not right.
It's utterly pathetic. So many bugs it will be a year before they get to them all. All the simps on the forums trying to make excuses for Asobo. I got a refund and then I switched to Game Pass for $1 for 14 days after which I will cancel Game Pass. And no, the servers aren't fixed. New reports today of blurry terrain and missing buildings and long load times.
use say intentions or Beyond ATC
Yeah, think I'll wait for a while for them to update things to make it work. I'm doing fine with 2020.
It is a weird new form of sycophancy for people to Simp for corporations and Gov's, some people have been infantilised and see them as their Daddy.
After the launch imbroglio finally settled down, I’ve enjoyed an excellent VR experience in Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is good, lighting is better than 2020, & scenery is significantly improved. I have 980 hours in 2020, almost all of it in VR; I’m 20 hours into 2024.
I’m mainly a VFR scenery tourist, just spawning in mid-air & flying around. My biggest gripe is that some of the planes I purchased in 2020 still aren’t available in 2024.
I dont think scenery is improved !
Does mouse work for you in VR? 😁
This post could have been me typing, because it is my exact experience. Oh, how I miss my little Su-26MX. I hope it will be available soon. VR performance was absolutely unusable at first but I realised I had forgotten to update NVidia drivers. Works very well now.
@@ЮрійГордієнко-х2з The mouse will work. And if it stops working, just hit a button on the motion controller, or on an xbox controller if you have one connected, and it will bring the mouse back. It's a minor bug, and easy to work around. They'll fix it.
I was lucky I guess. I waited until I saw all the reviews come flooding in on launch day and didn’t even attempt to download this hot mess. The refund for my Aviators Edition I put in for that evening. Literally within minutes I got an email saying my refund request had been approved. Just got another email a few days ago saying my credit card was being credited with the full amount. Another Microsoft bullet dodged.
Aside from the opening few days of glitches and an expected set of bugs to work out over time, 2024 is absolutely amazing.
You're delusional or in denial.
But It was very obvious it wasn't ready on the lead up to launch.
The SDK was released to devs just 1 month before and was not only bugged but missing core content!
The dev streams were only about 3rd party aircraft and the "world" dev stream was dropped without announcement or explanation.
There were no review copies sent out and there was no preview footage of the finished game.
There was radio silence from the devs on all the features they had promised but not talked about.
Then we heard the market place wouldn't be up at launch.
I didn't pre purchase but it is even worse than I thought because the game actually looks worse in many cases and has all the same bugs and missing core features as 2020 since 5 years ago!
Like crappy immersion breaking bugged road traffic (which they said was improved) and ATC still being in Alpha state on a next NEXT gen flight sim!
FPS is actually worse on last gen X3d chips than 2020 and everything being streamed means scenery or textures not loading in properly at times..
And where is all the stuff Jorg said was in the sim in the 2024 seminar?
"New satellite imagery across the planet."
"Improved and New photogrammetry cities (Twice as many)"
"One Million Sq Kilometres New LIDAR data" (Hi res height elevation data)
I don't see any of it on the videos I have watched.
Finally Jorg also said 2020 would get a patch with the new satellite imagery and stuff the day after 2024 launch, no patch!
The same thing happened when MSFS2020 first came out - didn't work - bugs, etc. That's why I never bought MSFS2024 and probably won't for a year - Which is what I did with MSFS2020
I've tried the career several times and it will refuse to acknowledge when I'm looking at the controls it wants me to. Unable to move forward, simply won't notice that I am actually looking at the RPM indicator.
It's time we just stop buying all these big AAA title companies games because Black ops 6 they had four years to develop and it's trash I also play NHL series games made by EA sports and the new NHL 25 it's trash Microsoft flight simulator 2024 it's trash I can go on and on also DCS is lying to their customers and not finishing products that people buy an early access phases
It's a beta product. Ridiculous they call this a full release.
@@michaelsuede 100% and we are the beta testers.
Its more like a way too early alpha test...
It's a cash grab
I thought it was full
So was 2020. The amount of updates and fixed since release is staggering. But it's the new black. Release a beta, then develop with community feedback.
Data consumption is my biggest problem, even with photogrammetry off it's too much, and yeah there are so many bugs but it's mainly the career mode than anything else, the launch is bad but common it's definitely not as bad as cyberpunk or NMS, definitely not NMS.
The biggest thing they need to do is let us download the planes, don't stream the planes because streaming it feels very inconsistent, sometimes textures are there other times it's missing, so many missing sounds, just let us download the planes. Following that it has to be career mode, it's bad, it's extremely buggy.
I always find it curious how people today can agree to pay and make excuses for things they bought that don't work as promised?
Beta testing isn’t for everybody, especially when you’re not supposed to be beta testing.
This is why I am very thankful for gamepass to let me try this on PC without a full purchase.
The low flight challenges in the f18 will keep me busy for months.
So 2024 will be ready in 2028
just in time for them to announce FS2028, "now with all the missing promised content from FS2024"; because that is exactly what they did with FS2020.
No. Already in 2026 but in 2027 the 2028 will be announced :D
For me, 2024 has been running better than 2020 ever did, with less bugs and less crashes, since the day after launch. Major issue the game was having wasn't the game. It was nVIDIA driver issues. Thankfully I went AMD years ago and never regretted it.
There is no way to sort or filter your list of missions in career mode so it gets crazy. You no longer can see other player names within 50 NM, it's less than 5 NM so you struggle to track your friends flying nearby. Pilatus PC 24 landing gear never retracts. Those are just off the top of my head.
I agree on the friends multiplayer implementation, definitely need some improvements. As well as some netcode improvements for updating positions, planes and character models. But overall pretty happy with the rest.
I'm kind of happy they released it but it should have been clearly labelled as a beta, not been launched as a full release and the rollout staged over a week or two. It's definitely not "customer release" quality software at the moment.
My main annoyances at the moment:
- Engine sound seems to work on about a quarter of launches
- Sometimes trigger look on my flightstick works and sometimes it doesn't
- Water handling is broken, possibly worse than in 2020! For example the Carbon Cub will backflip with full throttle and full up elevator
- Weird resets flying through gates in the time trials. It's not even the same as hitting something, it simply resets you back a bit with no message why. I've only tried this so far in the Carbon Cub and it's currently unplayable.
- Crazy default config for my Thrustmaster stick and pedals. It's one of the most common around and the rudder defaulted to the throttle and the pedals initially!
- Oversensitive controls feeling like early FS2020 where you needed to adjust the control curves manually
I've not tried either photo or career mode myself so can't comment on those.
It’ll be interesting to see how many of the existing bugs will last over the next four years, while they add ‘new great’ other features. That’s Osobos track record so far.
I'm not surprised at all, when 2020 came out it had so many bugs when they fixed one or 2 bugs, 4 more bugs popped out..
Asobo spent so much time fixing bugs that they only got enough of them fixed by the end of 2023, LOL
And many more bugs are still there, when they announced they was coming out with MSFS 2024, said 2024, why don't you fix 2020 before you come out with a new simulator i mean really?
Microsoft made a huge mistake giving MSFS project to ASOBO, they are a laughing stalk..
now i see 2024 is out and see how many bugs they are here, it's like 2020 all over again only worst..
Want a really great simulator, get Prepar3D v6, or v5 either of them are way better and more solid and DON'T have bugs.. and everything works..
Dude the biggest mistake Microsoft made was not building this them self, and handing the contract over to ASOBO, ASOBO should be ashamed of them self's.
Their software engineer are way below standards, they can't handle this type of project, well it's obvious isn't it, i mean the product speaks for itself you don't have to take my word for it.
If i could talk to Bill Gates in person i would say Bill, what is going on with Microsoft these days why are they handing MSFS to an incompetent company like ASOBO? WHY they are making Microsoft look bad, these people that ASOBO has working there is incompetent people, they butchered MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024..
Very Sad.................
I got banned from the MSFS 2020 forum for mentioning this and speaking my opinion on this and they banned me and labeled the reason (too combative)
They Just can't handle the truth..
I’m in a suburb of NYC. Load times yesterday took 49 minutes. Sim crashed to desktop while I was exploring efb in c172. Second load time was again 49 minutes. Intenet speed in home is 500 mbs. So I’m not seeing improvements in the servers. I don’t have time to wait an hour to get in.
I had a two hour flight in career mode and my plan ran out of fuel on approach, that was the last straw for me.
Most licenses have ZERO training available, commercial helicopters license offers ZERO paid missions. Several licenses aren’t even available and are just place holders. Career mode is pre-alpha, but paid $130 for it? I feel confident they will fix these, but how in the heck was this even released in this 20% complete state??
I understand the sentiment. We would like to have games to be playable Day 1. Unfortunately people buying hype and companies happy to sell whatever they have at the moment and fix (maybe) later. While demand is high situation will not improve. At the same time I'd like to give Microsoft some credit for keeping flight simulator alive and mostly up to date, especially global Earth coverage. Nobody else can do it on such a huge scale and luckily it's not using Unreal engine 5.
Well it did take 6 years for No Man's Sky. So 1 week in.........
When I requested a REFUND from Microsoft UK they denied it immediately saying that this was because I'd requested too many refunds this year. Complete BS because I'd not requested any at all! Until now. So this means that I now have to explain UK Consumer Law to MS by proxy and by asking PayPal to open a dispute with Microsoft UK. Pretty appalling eh? Why did I request a refund? Put simply there was no way I could get to fly even though I am a merry IFR pilot in MSFS 2020 - but also because if you fly over Europe's highest sand dune (Dune Du Pilat) near Arcachon in France and compare the scenery that 2020 provides (via add-ons) to what 2024 does - its a disgrace. AND whatever happened to 'SAVE FLIGHT'?????
I had the sim for one month. I only got it to work for about two hours. I spent most of my time waiting for it to load. My PC is miles above the optimal requirements and my internet is super fast one gig up and down. Finally I asked and got a full refund. Over the next several months I plan on monitoring the channels to see if it has greatly improved and if it does I might repurchase it. In the meantime I do expect a good sale on the product once sales fall before a certain level.
I was never able to successfully download 2020. The download would always crash and never complete no matter how much time I spent trying.
For me, 2024 has been great! Day one was awful, but since then I’ve been playing relatively seamlessly
Is it perfect? No. Is it polished? HARD NO. Will it get better? Yes.
2020 was a dumpster fire for a LONG time. 2024 is playable if you don’t have 3rd world country internet. I definitely saw some performance issues, but 2020 had that too. I think with a few months time, it will improve a lot.
My plane spawned in on a hill in career mode. When I removed the wheel blocks the plane started rolling down the hill without me in it. Good job Microsoft.
I had an airport deny my VFR request on a perfectly clear day. Decided to request IFR anyways, just to not get the penalty, then my enter key was shown on the top right of the screen to acknowledge clearance, and to request taking off again. The game chose to put me on an endless "request IFR clearance" loop instead of acknowledging atc. I took off anyways and was straight up denied landing. This was all at an airport with an X'd out runway, mind you.
I tend to be torn on the issue. I think no matter how thorough game developers are, games will always be shaky at launch to some extent. but I think we can all agree that early access culture has been a net negative for the gaming industry as a whole and has definitely made the problem worse, or so it seems. The technical structure of games has not remained static and games themselves continue to be larger and more complex than ever before. Surely the larger the game and the larger the scope, the more difficult it is to achieve perfection on a day one launch. I think developers have to be held more accountable, but I also think that gamers have to manage their own expectations and exercise a little bit of patience and understanding every once in a while too. It goes both ways
The fact that this Fallout 76 survivor is this angry at the game. It is measuring as the new most catastrophic release ever in gaming.
Oh, come on. It is not the worst failure, it is the MOST RECENT failure. You will be yelling about another live service game launch next week and will likely forget all about this one.
FO76 is great now, btw.
No Man's Sky shows to Video Games industry the correct past of redemption. Hello Games guys, in my humble opinion, are in the top of industry and the way that shows love and care to his customers. All the updates, and expeditions are completely free, they don't use micro transaction to increase his profits.
Yup, I’m where you are at in terms of frustration, half of the planes won’t even load without freezing. Missions having me take off from a runway that don’t exist, invisible flight patterns and on it goes. I uninstalled it I got so pissed off with it
And the worst part is the high price people paid to be able to play an overly hyped game which doesn't yet deliver on what they paid so much for.
It wasn't overhyped at all, 2020 was.
And I'm having a blast with 2024, I didn't have any server or connection issue since day 2.
So realistically its Flight Simulator 2028. Kinda how Cyberpunk 2077 became 2082 or even Eventually A Man's Sky.
Three career missions yesterday. Passenger gets into the TBM, nose baggage door opens and can't be closed again.
I bought the tbm for vip charter and sold my old plane to do so big mistake.
plane didn’t have fuel. and gave me 7 different error codes on different missions. literally unplayable. thinking about selling the tbm for 200k loss because i can’t even play.
I love flying 1 1/2 - 2 hrs just for my engine just to stop working entirely or them not putting enough fuel in my plane. Also love sitting still and getting penalized for putting my flaps down while sitting still. Can’t even earn enough money to get my company.
I've had my share of preorder disappointments and this is one of them. The beta testing didn't occur before the initial release. That was Alfa testing. The beta testing is NOW and we're all the testers. To be fair, there are some things that I believe 2024 does better than 2020. The new trees and seasons are very good and getting out of the aircraft and walking around is really nice as well. I greatly look forward to MS actually polishing the sim over time
Vikingair running out of fuel mid flight with no way to request more from airport
I returned msfs 2024 for a refund...the not mapping the simple inputs for joystick controls and making it very difficult to give your inputs for your controller was the final straw. Been playing since msfs 2000..So sad ...
The longer people play - the more bugs will be uncovered. Asobo has had a serious QA problem for years, and a horrible track record for fixing bugs.
You didn't even get to the part of the career mode where you helo starts bouncing before loading has finished and you are hit with crash and wrecking of your reputation, not to mention its completely unplayable at this point.
I got penalties for a crash because my plane spawned half inside a building. "Crashed" before I even touched the controls!
Great video mate.
I'm one of the players who downloaded via xbox gamepass as there was no way I was paying before a proper test.
The release was a complete cluster...k.
I'm a patient guy (65 now) but I was livid when it released.
Everyone said it would happen but ms and asobo basically waved their two fingers at us.
Like you say, after the servers settled down it runs and looks lovely but the career mode, while being really enjoyable just regularly kicks you in the balls.
Regularly crashing (including on final which means you have to fly that mission again....from scratch) and often crashing after you've landed and taxiid in.
Irritating but at least your progress is saved.
This version was supposed to be better, direct x 12, newer engine, bells and whistles etc.
If I was head honcho at MS quite a few of these people would have been picking up their unemployment cheque the following Monday.
Looks like they learned nothing after the fiasco of 2020......and that is inexcusable!!
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Thanks for the warnings. I waited 2-1/2 years before going from FSX to MSFS 2020. Read EVERYTHING and knew how to tweak before buying. NOW!!!! I KNEW this was going to be a FLOP!!!!. It will be YEARS before it MIGHT be fixed. MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE DROPPED AND MSFS 2026 will be a masterpiece.
I am truly sorry and sympathetic of your negative experience. I wish I could share my experience. Mine is quite the opposite of all this negativity (though understandable). Yes, day one was impossible. Since, I have been in awe of how superior 24 is over 20. I sincerely hope it works out for you in the future.
On game pass, it literally doesn’t even work at all. Can’t get past the first career mission, controls don’t work and it doesn’t tell you how to access the menus it wants you to get into. Free flight crashes before I even get to the runway. It’s absolute garbage. See ya!
2020 is also available on GamePass, so it's better to just install that, and wait for them to fix 2024.
F this game dude, keeps crashing, drop rating for no reason, crash mid flight, gamepass player so luckly didnt cost anything but as annoying as what you can get
The ONLY problem i have with the game/sim is about 75% of the time i leave a flight....the menu glitches so bad that navigation is impossible without having to hard close the application.
Im playing gamepass because i dodnt plan to purchase until after my 4080 build in a few weeks.
Been playing on Gamepass, and man it's been a nightmare.
I'm a VR gamer, so seeing the game has a VR mode and all that I was overjoyed. MSFS has all kinds of little things to meddle with, which is like 90% of the fun of virtual reality.
HOWEVER.
The game is simply broken. Setting up VR is enough of a nightmare - I have a 4060ti, so not the beefiest of VR hardware but certainly no slouch, but even then I had to dial many things well and far back in order to simply get a framerate that won't result in sickness even passively staring in one direction with everything moving slowly on screen. Not a deal breaker, it's a heavy game, and nothing in the world is optimized these days, so not a surprise. But but but.... the controls... oh boy, the controls.
So I got a Quest 3, using virtual desktop to play. I use the controllers, because the hand tracking is a nightmare. Or I would use the controllers, but the thing keeps trying to jump to hand tracking whenever it can. So I'm always fighting the system trying to switch to hand tracking, pressing buttons over and over to get it to re-enable the controllers. I figured I could try to maybe use a xbox controller instead, especially for other issues I'll get to in a second, but I wanted to have a vr controller on hand just in case I need it for more poke-and-do tasks. Thing is, if I have the analog stick even slightly moved, the VR controller turns off and I gotta go smashing buttons to turn it on again.. all the while, it's still trying to override the xbox controller with hand tracking while I'm actively using the xbox controller.
Now if it's using the vr controllers "properly" it's still astonishingly half assed. You know the standard "hold the home button to recenter your view" of every single VR game ever made? Well, count this as the one that doesn't do that. You hit left shift on the keyboard, or the X button (closer button) on the left controller. Yep, on of the main action buttons is the recenter view button, instead of the standard.
Now when you get out of the airplane, that's when things get especially ridiculous. There is no way in VR on the VR controllers to rotate your view. You cannot turn. Well then, what does the right stick do? Simple! Nothing. Nothing at-fucking-all, it does absolute jack shit. The right grip button is your crouch button. Yep, they remembered the crouch button, even though you will auto-crouch near your wings and don't actually even need a manual crouch button, but you can't turn.
Despite ALL THIS so far, I haven't even got to the worst problem with the game. You might have been expecting this, but surprise surprise, it doesn't even function.
I can dick around in free flight, but I wanted to get some actual tasks done.. so... seeing as I have near no idea what I'm doing, I went into the activities, tutorials, and started at square one. First red flag? The description box reads something like "basiccontrols_tutorial_VR" or the like. Launch it, they give the little rundown "I'll be your teacher, blah blah blah, this is a cessna, blah blah blah" and finally "hide the yoke with your controller of choice." So I poke the yoke, it disappears, the tutorial lady says "Great!" and then.... nothing! No further task loads, nothing happens. For a few frames, it flashes "use the cursor to interact with the cabin" on the task box, but I've poked every last button in that airplane, it doesn't progress the tutorial. I've started the thing up and smashed into the hangar doors. Nothing. I've got out of the plane and walked in the one and only pre-determined direction I'm allowed to face. Nothing.
So that's it. First step of the first tutorial, and I can go no further.
I could go on about the keyboard randomly turning off and being unable to access the menu, the game locking the mouse so hard alt+tab doesn't release it, the task manager being BEHIND the game and me having to straight up hold my PC's power button to get out of it... but yeah...
Anyway, I gave em a 1 star review.
Day one was a loss, ran fantastic last night and I saw the potential. I do hate having to redo 4 yrs of settings and not having my hanger. But this too will pass.
Even after launch issues, there is a bug or two in virtually every flight I take. I'm not sure if it could even be called a beta...
The horrendous TTS voices in career mode ruin any immersion, the cloud is awful, let me download as much as I want to. My DCS install is 700GB, I'll give MSFS2024 1TB for the areas I actually fly. The whole thing has so much potential, but it just doesn''t work.
I honestly couldn't even get to the gameplay. I use the TCA Boeing yoke pack and the throttle is just unusable. I tried for around 2 hours and couldn't get the throttles to stop going up and down on their own. Setting it up in 2020 was a walk in the park compared to 2024.
Unfortunate for so many! Best graphics, realism and flight dynamics for this customer! Surpasses all previous versions and other platforms by a landslide!
Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode but the majority of the experience after day one has been a huge improvement. From its substantially better flight model to its huge graphics update it’s very very good. also a hardcore sim will always drop player counts shortly after launch when the casual market that come to see what its all about and realize that most won’t stick around. You don’t need to keep playing but making a video acting like this game doesn’t work at all is disingenuous at best. Not to mention it does more harm than good.
"Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode" .... "disagree" all you like buddy the FUCKING FACTS are, it is buggy... I FUCKING LITERALLY SHOWED SEVERAL OF THE BUGS HAPPENING, IN THIS VERY VIDEO, FOR FUCKS SAKE just for your dumbass to pretend they don't exist.
Piss off mate.
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@@BluntyTV love the way you rage
The bugs aren’t minor at all. I’ve seen a load of visual bugs. Hidden character, aircraft or scenery textures. Airports that look like crap, merged world objects, Autopilot no longer or barely working, poor and unresponsive UI, poor menu design, frequent crashing. Terrible AI voices in career mode, messed up taxi pathways, I could go on and more.
While the new fun features sound flawed currently I'm still fairly happy with it as a core simmer. The visuals and performance have seen a serious improvement which matters to me most. Once PMDG aircraft are ported over I'm really going to enjoy this one.
I do agree though it was released too early, and it was because 2024 was in the name. We also don't know what happened behind the scenes. It's very likely Asobo's hands where tied trying to keep M$ happy.
I'm very optimistic about the future of this Sim.
I was disappointed in the water texture effects when flying close to the surface… seems non existent.
And what’s with the skid marks any time you’re using normal braking??
I don't think we are playing the same game. The water was stunning when I played it. very realistic waves, and then when I was flying around the bahamas, I saw all the reefs under the water. beautiful!
I think you’re being a tad optimistic to expect the shitshow that this thing is, to be fixed in two months.
Don't know if it's just me but I'm so glad someone has finally said it. Even after the atrocious connectivity issues on day 1 / 2 there's still so much wrong with the game. It's ALMOST forgivable to have had those server issues considering it's the first of it's kind to attempt to stream a massive game like this but the actual game itself is full of bugs and issues that I just can't look past and haven't seen any of the big sim RUclipsrs mentioning. For me it's mainly been controller and audio issues.
The problem with gaming today is that so many people voluntarily pay to become beta testers.
No, it’s not. So, it’s all our fault, seriously? People like you think they’re smart leaving these condescending comments, but in reality it’s just super toxic and disrespectful to the flight sim community.
i purchased fs2020 on pc and played it for about 10hours. then turn off the pc the the next morning im back on the pc and theres no game?? WTF going on the game is gone the only thing left is the file folder.?? i payed over $200 for it to only disappears on me, has this ever happen to any one.
I’m so relieved someone else is having the same problems. I’m new to this game and I thought I was just completely garbage lol
The main problem i'm having is that I am enjoying the game but the past 2 days it crashes to the desktop every 10 to 20 minutes completely exiting the game.
The servers aren't ok.
In the UK the main issues were fixed by day 3 after release. But then they came back with a vengeance at the weekend and are still happening now.
It's impossible to launch a flight in any mode of gameplay.
Funny that I'm in the UK and playing it right now.
Totally agree. I'm in the UK and it's diabolical. I've not been able to do a single flight yet.
After seeing the incredible early reviews I was very excited to try FS2024. I've been an avid FS2020 user since its launch day which provided a very impressive and stable product. Surely, I thought, FS2024 would at least be as good at its launch. However, after two hours of frustration with settings and poor performance on my RTX4070, I requested a refund. I'll probably try it again, but not until reviews of the actual product indicate that it's been largely fixed.
Completely agree with this excellent assessment. Bought it like most people on day 1 and not had a single flight. Screen aberrations the minute i load up a plane which appear to be air flow metrics or something in Free Flight mode, sound disappears, drone mode doesn't work etc etc. Game was not ready for release and still isn't. Its a shame as it will eventually sort itself out but i think months not weeks
It will take longer than a month to fix this and i would venture that there needs to be architectural changes before I would be interested again. I wish they had stuck to the core pillars that made 2020 a success.
some things you mentioned are bugs like the flaps, some things like lights are just standard operational practice, are their bugs? yes, are the instructions inconsistant for newer less knowledgable players? yes, is it broken beyond playable? no as ive posted consistant A/S grades for flights without using the visual flight path and markers. that said its still unacceptable that the game has bugs and that it is NOT FEATURE COMPLETE. not shouting at anyone just making the point stand out in the comments.
The career mode is fun. Rumor is they are adding a micro transaction system to it.
With the right addon plane like the fenix it’s usable. Most of the issues seem to be sever issues so they need to let us download as much as we want. Stream scenery is fine but everything should be local
Deducting points for not doing something you weren't told to do and that doesn't make sense (taxi light) sounds like my boss at work. Always on the wait for you to do something wrong so they can AHA!! you, instead of telling people what to expect today.
That said I've known several real flight schools that always do the whole lights for specific stages of flight. They'll start engines and do control checks with only the red beacon on, then turn the taxi light on to move along the taxiway, then turn it back off again when they come to a stop (even if it's just to let other aircraft pass them) and turn it back on before they move again. Usually it's the Airline cadet programs doing that, because they're the only nerds flying their Cessna 172's or Diamond DA40's like they are 787's. The usual flying club bozos usually either just turn it on once the engine electrics are sorted and leave it on forever, or just turn it on for runway entry (it's not to let you see, it's for the ATC tower to see that you're the one with the clearance intending to move forwards)
Though, they really should say it at the beginning of the set, or even "From here on, always turn the taxi light on any time the aircraft is going to move in a movement area of the airport" as an audio file during some relevant lesson, and a backup reminder at the beginning of the next flight. That said many instructors will, do and imo SHOULD be backing off their instruction of basics as you progress. Going from discussing everything you should do in your first lesson, till they're basically sitting there deaf dumb and mute and only giving the most overaching of instructions like "ok, demonstrate a steep turn to the left" and then letting you get a few things wrong before asking why you didn't: clear your direction of turn by lifting the right wing first before starting the left turn, why you lost 200ft, and why you didn't roll out at the heading bug properly. and then making you do it again till you get it right.
Examiners are worse, they will let you get something wrong right at the beginning, say nothing, then fail you at the end.
Same here; I'm done until they fix it. Coming back to MSFS 2020.
It’s been over a month. They don’t communicate. They don’t care. How are they getting away with it?
Personally as a simmer I was frustrated till Friday due I was unable to have a single flight due to server isssus. But since then it’s been working fine, and is an improvement in ways over 2020 but there are small issues I’m sure will be fixed in carrier mode. Personally as simmers we mostly use free flight and plan are own flights or throu a VA or app. Personally I think streaming the sim without a download option is not smart and can make the game unusable if there is an internet outage. With any sim there tends to be issues for the first month or so due to the complexity of FS. You are ment to use your lights in daylight but it should have prompted you. But there are in game atc issues and bugs.
But overall I’m happy as a simmer and it’s really early days in a new sim.
But I think there issues of many developers rushing out games even addons without proper testing. I think the server issues should off been spotted as a week point earlier by MS, I agree it’s not ready for all and maybe if they felt compelled to release it to release it as a open Beta or Alpha and be up front of the bugs.
Absolute steaming heap. Makes CDPR's initial release of Cyberpunk 2077 actually look quite acceptable. Thankfully I'm largely an X-Plane 12 user (which is arguably a better "flight" simulator, though not as good a "terrain" simulator), I tried FS2024 on Game Pass, which I have anyway, even though it didn't cost me any extra money, even I'm insulted by what a total disgrace it is. Disgusting release.
It only took me 5 days to set up my controller bindings. The servers are working better because the provisioned the load balancing and enabled auto scaling.
Spawning in buildings and getting penalized for moving
Are the servers fixed? I have tried and tried to load since day one, up until yesterday (Sunday). It NEVER got past 98%. I had no intention to leave it loading for more hours than a game from the era of cassettes would have taken to load. I have requested a refund, as, up until yesterday I was not on game pass.
If this does get fixed, yes I would certainly re-install it on my Series X. Nearly one week in and it is still a total farce.
Forget 'Cloud' streaming and give us a FULL INSTALLATION.
***Update***......They have refused to refund me. Why does that NOT surprise me.
They got themselves way to in over their heads. Our technology and the max limits have kind of stalled. We almost have pushed it to the limits and it looks like we are not sure how we can computers or games any better. To the point where studios try to focus on eye candy but leave out the most important aspects.
Career mode also penalizing me for taxiing over the runway, while it's the only way to get to the hold short position. I also suffered from not seeing the flight path, until I realized you can toggle this on or off by pressing the L-button (on Xbox).
I think I will enjoy the story and game modes, though I would prefer a 2020 expansion then a brand new game. I will say it has potential. One thing I haven't figured out is the control set up. Each time I start the game it wipes away my custom inputs. The best thing so far about this game is it got me to play 2020 again.
When they mentioned "cloud streaming" on a game that relied on GBs and TBs of data, I knew this was a bad idea! OR....give us an option if we fly the plane locally, let us download that specific area for "offline mode" - like Google Maps lets us do for our phones. I KNEW all too well there would be bugs on this last Tues, launch day...but not this bad. I've had a few decent flights, but I have to wait until after 11:30pm ET to do this, or 3am...maybe 6-7am...(flights in Prime Time, perhaps heavier peak time?) are useless! The A400 Atlas, this totally crashes my Sim...one plane I was looking forward to. Other planes are dysfunctional also.
With holiday week here, more and more kids, teens home, college kids that may like Flight Sim, the servers again may get overloaded. Who knows.
I HOPE.....HOPE after such a long wait, excitement for this title gets bug fixes...multiple in the next few weeks (I'm dreaming, I realize). You're right, it IS unfinished!!
..So, I'll go back to 2020...which I bought in 2022 and it was great (few Sim Updates DID f- it up though...but fixed eventually), it's a far more stable title compared to this 2024.