Id very much like to see this, and I'd say it's very brave of the London Transport Museum to try and get past Jago Hazzard's definitive characterization of Beck.
I actually went to see this last weekend: it had a lot of stuff in it about Harry's backstory that I never knew about even as a train map enthusiast like myself! It was a great watch; I'd recommend it to anyone who's interested in that sort of thing.
What have I missed?...I also want to see the great Jago Hazzard. I only have this impression in my mind that I know full well will be nothing like the real thing. He has one of the greatest voices among RUclipsrs. Unhurried with educated diction that still appeals to the hoi polloi of all English speaking locales around the world. I haven't tried Google. Hang on.......
What's wrong with being an obsessive nerd? It was no doubt an obsessive nerd who first had the idea of breaking bits off a piece of flint to make a sharp edge, and we've relied on them ever since. (Some of them also make videos about trains 😅)
I am not from London and so I have no clue about the history of the railway on London. But Jago make me appreciate Harry Beck and wished I can see this teather. Thank you
Thanks Jago for this relaxing theatrical tale from the tube. After all the insanity going on in the land of Charles Tyson Yerkes this was a very welcome change.
It’s always amused me that NYC has such easy-to-follow streets, yet the subway map is an undecipherable plate of spaghetti, whereas London is the complete opposite: a logical Tube map and streets that make no sense to anyone not born and raised there.
I think that's a bit harsh on the subway maps, old chap. Admittedly I've never used it to go off Manhattan, but it looks like a reasonable attempt to combine geographical realism with clarity about the lines--a bit like the Paris Metro. I was just checking my memory, and discovered on the MTA site that there's a Winter map, when the above ground stations are closed: that is very much in the Harry Beck tradition. I guess that's because if you are consulting that map, you already know about the relationship of stations to your destination, and you want a guide to the network, rather than a multimodal route planner. But now I've looked at the Wikipeda article on the NYC Subway Map, and see how much more information is coded into it. How much, I wonder, is the difficulty of reading a failure of map making, and how much that the reality is hard to understand? In what circumstances would an app on your phone be better? Why is a map?
@@ninebangtrojan4669 No, that’s not quite right. The famous (or infamous) Massimo Vignelli map _was_ adopted and in use from 1972 to 1979. (It was, in fact, the map that I grew up with and thought was perfectly fine.) Led by John Tauranac, a cartographer who became the head of the MTA map committee, a faction of the MTA hated the map and led the charge against it, resulting to the map’s abandonment in 1979. To this day Tauranac _loathes_ the Vignelli map, although it is still lauded by designers almost 50 years later as a perfectly designed map.
As someone who's lived in the High Barnet area for almost 40 years, it still amuses me to see Tube maps where "my" branch of the Northern line terminates at Highgate. It just looks very wrong to me (and BTW I do know the history of the line's eventual lengthening). Another cracking video Jago - cheers 👍
I think a silent movie would be more fitting for a man of his caliber. He had a suitably extravagant moustache, perfect for twirling and his, often times, dubious dealings revolve around railways.
The link to tickets goes to a site that says they have no tickets available (at least when I looked just now). But tickets are available from the London Transport Museum website.
The video was in my in-box when I woke up this morning. (Thursday morning in New Zealand.) Because I play the Yerkes game, I had to take a drink when CTY was mentioned. So that was me at 7.30 am with a glass of single malt in my hand. Thanks Jago!
Great review and the play sounds very interesting, I may go along... but how do I find this Covent Garden Station that you speak of... I mean is there some sort of network diagram I could refer to, lol. But seriously sound great. I do recall your excellent portrait of Harry Beck; very well done. 😊
@@RichardFraser-y9t IF there is another free US presidential election in 2028 ......... (or the midterms in 2026 for that matter). Trump has already made noises to this effect, but could the Republicans really prevent or heavily corrupt future US elections? Quite possibly ......... they may go down Russia's route of having elections which have a rigged outcome.
I treasure the book I bought from London Transport Museum with the diagram showing the proposed lime green line from SW to NE London, much of which in central part became the Elizabeth line.
I think I might take in a performance, if only for half-price entry to the museum afterwards. And I am planning to go to the Map House sometime soon, for that map exhibition mentioned in an earlier video so I can have the opportunity of taking a picture of each exhibit. Every. Last. One.
@@andrewmanning6243 I definitely was not being mean. Jago always closes his "Tales of the Tube" videos with something like "A to my B." In this current video, at 6:35, he says, "You are the circle to my interchange." In the Jay Forman video (ruclips.net/video/jaEhvWXmLyk/видео.html) "Harry Beck", says at 6:20, "You are the ungrateful corporation to my lifetime of loyal service." This was an homage to his regular videos, and it clued people that this was Jago playing Harry Beck. I am sorry that you took it as being mean.
0:50 “Does it count as spoilers if it's a play about real historic events? I don't know.” I sure hope so. When _Titanic_ was playing in the theaters in 1997, a friend and I went to see it and I turned to him at the beginning and said, a bit conspiratorially: “You know…the ship _sinks_ at the end.” (I’m a bit perverse that way.)
Unfortunately, it's almost certain that I won't make it to London in time to see the show, but to all who are going to see it, I sincerely hope you'll enjoy it!
I'd love to go to this but I cannot find any information anywhere on TfL's site to tell me whether I get a discount for being old and/or whether I get a discont for having one of the museum's Annual Pass. This may be me just getting fed up with clicking what look like hopeful links. Perhaps the play could be made available on RUclips or somewhere after the live play has ended?
Is there any chance that the run might be extended in view of the fact that most of the performances are already booked out? In February next year, she who must be obeyed has decided that we have to fly to London to visit the Tate Modern. This would be a pleasant addition to the programme.
Everyone loves to know who was Harry Beck with his design of the tube map and the style it’s being used on. Geoff Marshall has done few videos of the tube map on his RUclips channel and I’m still a big fan of the London tube map that has evolved over the years and decades.
If Harry Beck was alive and he was watching this video. He would have appreciate your video on his drawings and designs of the tube map. I think that his work on designing a tube map made London transport lot more easier and less stressful.
Mr Beck was a man of wonderfully clear thought. And then there were, and still are the petty , desk jockeys. How often has the wheel been invented, but in bland grey? Rod
The viewer had had a heavy night and was in no mood for silly games. But, Jago, in a very literal sense, you are Harry Beck! Am I? To be honest I'm not entirely sure who I'm supposed to be any more. I seem to be a combination of obsessive nerd and a frankly wholesome voice of quintessential Englishness. Where is the commenter going with this, he thought to himself.
Given your previous theatrical involvements, your synopsis is very much to be valued. I feel Harry was treated like an underdog in the end. I instinctively support underdogs and those who promote their value.
I knew Jago Hazzard would be too modest to inform us of the true reality but I still had hope that the line from this script would have gone as follows; "Beck is famous for one thing; being played by yours truly in a delightful cameo in one of Jay Foreman's fascinating videos from a couple of years ago..." Disappointment isn't the correct description more a case of what might have been. Especially as we subsequently are given the information.
Artistic licence - playwright probably knew change of stations but just kept their later names aso audience could not be confused. Unfortunately Mr Beck was a victim of jealousy and politics at work. Also , how about plays about the tube station designers - must have had plenty of frustrations and setbacks with higher management! Thanks for video.
O M G, is Jago ever ever ever going to stop going on and on and on about playing Harry Beck a couple of times?! Even an oblique reference to Yerkes couldn't save him from this absolve him from this devilish crime!
I hate the diagram. Sure, it gives you a rough idea of where the lines go, but an actual map is much more useful. After all, what's the purpose of transit but to get where you're going, and the real world map is different. Fortunately we've got phones now and can see actual maps instead of silly diagrams. And yes, New York's diagram sucks too.
I'm a student at the London College of Communication and I was talking to one of my flatmates last night about a bunch of stuff happening at UAL, and the LCC specifically, and she brought up that one of the designers of the tube map studied at the LCC- though whoever did and when, they would've known it as the London College of Printing. She said Beck rang a bell along those lines, and we have posters for a Harry Beck exhibition from the 1970s or 1990s in our library, but I can't find anything more concrete.
Id very much like to see this, and I'd say it's very brave of the London Transport Museum to try and get past Jago Hazzard's definitive characterization of Beck.
The London Transport Museum needs to show you playing Harry Beck at the museum!
I actually went to see this last weekend: it had a lot of stuff in it about Harry's backstory that I never knew about even as a train map enthusiast like myself! It was a great watch; I'd recommend it to anyone who's interested in that sort of thing.
Excellent! And Jerkes mentioned in the first six seconds
I wonder if Jerkes ate jerkies?
Huzzah, I'm back in Jago's videos and in the UK! The US is too crazy for me at the moment.
Love you. I hope your stay in the UK is long and relaxing.
Nothing's too crazy for Mr Yerkes.
@@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial wish I and everyone I love could join you.
@@ShadowDragon8685same here.
Just watched the Jay Foreman "The Tube Map nearly looked very different". And now I know what the Jago looks like.
In disguise though.
What have I missed?...I also want to see the great Jago Hazzard. I only have this impression in my mind that I know full well
will be nothing like the real thing. He has one of the greatest voices among RUclipsrs. Unhurried with educated diction that
still appeals to the hoi polloi of all English speaking locales around the world. I haven't tried Google. Hang on.......
I can absolutely hear it thought I recognised the voice
@@joeevans5770it was the way he said “you are the…” I was like that’s Jago?! I was impressed.
Were you invited to see it? Someone has to be well enough in the know to have asked you, the original Harry Beck actor, to be in attendance!
What's wrong with being an obsessive nerd? It was no doubt an obsessive nerd who first had the idea of breaking bits off a piece of flint to make a sharp edge, and we've relied on them ever since.
(Some of them also make videos about trains 😅)
Pieces of flint make videos about trains?
I love obsessive nerds, probably because I am one too 🤓.
You are the true Harry Beck actor. OG
I am not from London and so I have no clue about the history of the railway on London. But Jago make me appreciate Harry Beck and wished I can see this teather.
Thank you
Thanks Jago for this relaxing theatrical tale from the tube. After all the insanity going on in the land of Charles Tyson Yerkes this was a very welcome change.
Yes the criminal fraudster
Now I just want to see somebody put on "Waiting for Frank Pick".
This reminds me to go and see the exhibition about the tube map before it closes.
When does it?
30 Nov, at The Map House. Well worth a look, as is the play.
I 1000% smiled at that reference of you playing Harry Beck. I remember it and those ludicrous glasses so well. Hahahaha !
It’s always amused me that NYC has such easy-to-follow streets, yet the subway map is an undecipherable plate of spaghetti, whereas London is the complete opposite: a logical Tube map and streets that make no sense to anyone not born and raised there.
Indeed it's actually what my mum said too me as she use too live in America in the 1990s and it always feels like yea that is odd
I think it was in one of Jago's videos NYC had a "Beck" style map designed but it proved unpopular with focus groups so was never adopted
I think that's a bit harsh on the subway maps, old chap. Admittedly I've never used it to go off Manhattan, but it looks like a reasonable attempt to combine geographical realism with clarity about the lines--a bit like the Paris Metro. I was just checking my memory, and discovered on the MTA site that there's a Winter map, when the above ground stations are closed: that is very much in the Harry Beck tradition. I guess that's because if you are consulting that map, you already know about the relationship of stations to your destination, and you want a guide to the network, rather than a multimodal route planner.
But now I've looked at the Wikipeda article on the NYC Subway Map, and see how much more information is coded into it. How much, I wonder, is the difficulty of reading a failure of map making, and how much that the reality is hard to understand? In what circumstances would an app on your phone be better? Why is a map?
@@ninebangtrojan4669 No, that’s not quite right. The famous (or infamous) Massimo Vignelli map _was_ adopted and in use from 1972 to 1979. (It was, in fact, the map that I grew up with and thought was perfectly fine.) Led by John Tauranac, a cartographer who became the head of the MTA map committee, a faction of the MTA hated the map and led the charge against it, resulting to the map’s abandonment in 1979. To this day Tauranac _loathes_ the Vignelli map, although it is still lauded by designers almost 50 years later as a perfectly designed map.
These peripheral figures have left me somewhat on edge.
I had no idea this was on, so now this is on my list! Thanks for the heads up, Jago.
Went to see this the other day, very good in my opinion
Thank you sir. You are the Harry Beck to my understanding of the Tube from half a world away.
As someone who's lived in the High Barnet area for almost 40 years, it still amuses me to see Tube maps where "my" branch of the Northern line terminates at Highgate. It just looks very wrong to me (and BTW I do know the history of the line's eventual lengthening).
Another cracking video Jago - cheers 👍
The station was called Highgate back then but it was today's Archway.
@jackmartinleith Thanks for the correction Jack - I'd completely forgotten that fact! 😱
The play finishes well before my trip to London in May. Shame, it would have been nice to see.
Maybe if the play is a box office success the theatre company may take it on the road or the rails.
YES! Just six seconds in and CTY gets a mention!
Now we need a play about Yerkes
I think a silent movie would be more fitting for a man of his caliber. He had a suitably extravagant moustache, perfect for twirling and his, often times, dubious dealings revolve around railways.
I would imagine that they used later names for stations so that people can associate with them.
The link to tickets goes to a site that says they have no tickets available (at least when I looked just now). But tickets are available from the London Transport Museum website.
Fantastic stuff. The notes on date and name anomalies are delightfully on brand.
One day, if there's any justice, we'll get a play about the legend who changed transport heritage videos forever. "West Barkingside Story" anyone?
I've just bought a 2nd hand book about Harry Beck's maps.
The video was in my in-box when I woke up this morning. (Thursday morning in New Zealand.) Because I play the Yerkes game, I had to take a drink when CTY was mentioned. So that was me at 7.30 am with a glass of single malt in my hand. Thanks Jago!
I think I needed this video. As a break from everything.
Do you still have the glases?
It's good, but I still expected to see you in the lead :P
3:25 It is better to use modern names otherwise the non-nerds won't know which stations/lines are being mentioned.
You could have a tube-like announcement: Beck just said Highgate but in new pence that is Archway.
Brilliant video sir
Does the intro mean that Yerkes! The Musical is in the pipeline?
"There was a certain man in Chicago long ago,
he was slick and sly, his moustache a curling bow."
I'll see myself out.
I watched this a couple of weeks ago and it was very good, despite quite a few inaccuracies
A veritable treat as always Jago old boy. You are the shiny red 38 stock to my long scrapped Panter Balloon.
Great review and the play sounds very interesting, I may go along... but how do I find this Covent Garden Station that you speak of... I mean is there some sort of network diagram I could refer to, lol. But seriously sound great. I do recall your excellent portrait of Harry Beck; very well done. 😊
Thanks for the review! I would have liked to see this, but I will be just passing through London on my next trip :(
Anyone would think you knew what you were talking about. Oh, you most certainly do! Thanks for another excellent (as always) video.
As I live nowhere near London, it would be great to see this go on tour. I feel the subject matter would travel well, playing in smaller venues.
After the election last night this American needed a Jago video badly
Two high points in 24 hours!
4 years will fly by
@@RichardFraser-y9t IF there is another free US presidential election in 2028 ......... (or the midterms in 2026 for that matter). Trump has already made noises to this effect, but could the Republicans really prevent or heavily corrupt future US elections? Quite possibly ......... they may go down Russia's route of having elections which have a rigged outcome.
@@thomasm1964 Willkommen im Vierten Reich and act surprised about the Konzentrationcamps and Bookburnings
@@seanbonella and Goodbye Basic Human Rights \o/
How does one get to the LT Museum, is there a map available? 😉😉😁😁
Yep, bound to be some in the gift shop at the museum.
Well done Jago, A nice way to protrate a play without giving to much away. One Winks.
Well done. Very interesting.
I enjoy hearing all tales from the tube.
Whatever you all may be doing or going through. The weekend is only 2 days away. But today is great, and that’s because there is a new jago video!
i guess it's not a bad deviation for including the current names since not everyone knows every station name, there have been alot over time
With those glasses, the mystery continues...
I treasure the book I bought from London Transport Museum with the diagram showing the proposed lime green line from SW to NE London, much of which in central part became the Elizabeth line.
I think I might take in a performance, if only for half-price entry to the museum afterwards. And I am planning to go to the Map House sometime soon, for that map exhibition mentioned in an earlier video so I can have the opportunity of taking a picture of each exhibit.
Every. Last. One.
I am horrified by your extremely reasonable attitude to matters of precise historical accuracy.
Hiya Jago - sorry to hear that your voice is still not to normal - hope you get well soon!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂
I hope you're alright, you don't quite sound like your usual chipper self.
Had no idea that was you in the Jay Foreman video. Awesome. 😀
"You are the ungrateful corporation to my lifetime of loyal service." Was that not a dead giveaway?
@@zork999 Do hope you are not being mean. Autistic and take things literal, don't always see the abstract. Just here to enjoy Jago and comment. 😥
@@andrewmanning6243 I definitely was not being mean. Jago always closes his "Tales of the Tube" videos with something like "A to my B." In this current video, at 6:35, he says, "You are the circle to my interchange." In the Jay Forman video (ruclips.net/video/jaEhvWXmLyk/видео.html) "Harry Beck", says at 6:20, "You are the ungrateful corporation to my lifetime of loyal service." This was an homage to his regular videos, and it clued people that this was Jago playing Harry Beck. I am sorry that you took it as being mean.
@@zork999 Appreciate your explaination. Thank you. 😃
0:50 “Does it count as spoilers if it's a play about real historic events? I don't know.”
I sure hope so. When _Titanic_ was playing in the theaters in 1997, a friend and I went to see it and I turned to him at the beginning and said, a bit conspiratorially: “You know…the ship _sinks_ at the end.” (I’m a bit perverse that way.)
Don’t we just love Harry Beck discourse? Charles YERKES is not the only patron saint of this channel lol
1:23 It was an out of body experience
Wasn't there a play in the London Transport Museum?
That's what he's talking about.
Try watching the video.
Unfortunately, it's almost certain that I won't make it to London in time to see the show, but to all who are going to see it, I sincerely hope you'll enjoy it!
your hobsons choice sounds fine to me.
Many viewers may be interested in the newly published book "Iconic Transit Maps: The World's Best Designs" by Mark Ovenden.
can you put these as podcasts on spotify would love to lisen to these in the gym or walking
Also, an easy walk from Temple Station.
its uphill so easy is a relative term
Point of information. Many many years ago I worked with a draughtsman who'd worked with Beck. This bloke could reproduce the Tube typeface freehand.
Charles Yerkes mentioned in the "speak naughty words and get demonitised" part of the video. That's brave Jago.
I'd love to go to this but I cannot find any information anywhere on TfL's site to tell me whether I get a discount for being old and/or whether I get a discont for having one of the museum's Annual Pass. This may be me just getting fed up with clicking what look like hopeful links. Perhaps the play could be made available on RUclips or somewhere after the live play has ended?
Is there any chance that the run might be extended in view of the fact that most of the performances are already booked out? In February next year, she who must be obeyed has decided that we have to fly to London to visit the Tate Modern. This would be a pleasant addition to the programme.
big up new video
Everyone loves to know who was Harry Beck with his design of the tube map and the style it’s being used on. Geoff Marshall has done few videos of the tube map on his RUclips channel and I’m still a big fan of the London tube map that has evolved over the years and decades.
If Harry Beck was alive and he was watching this video. He would have appreciate your video on his drawings and designs of the tube map. I think that his work on designing a tube map made London transport lot more easier and less stressful.
I had no idea you played him on the Jay Foreman video...
Mr Beck was a man of wonderfully clear thought.
And then there were, and still are the petty , desk jockeys.
How often has the wheel been invented, but in bland grey?
Rod
Harry Beck, an inspiration to us all.
The viewer had had a heavy night and was in no mood for silly games.
But, Jago, in a very literal sense, you are Harry Beck!
Am I? To be honest I'm not entirely sure who I'm supposed to be any more. I seem to be a combination of obsessive nerd and a frankly wholesome voice of quintessential Englishness.
Where is the commenter going with this, he thought to himself.
watching this after the harry beck jay foreman video 😁
The Natural Theatre Company are based in my lovely city of Bath. So just and average of one hour and twenty minutes journey up to Paddington.
Famous for one thing? C'mon, he's also famous for having you play him in some RUclips videos. That's not nothing.
good morning jago
Given your previous theatrical involvements, your synopsis is very much to be valued.
I feel Harry was treated like an underdog in the end. I instinctively support underdogs and those who promote their value.
I knew Jago Hazzard would be too modest to inform us of the true reality but I still had hope that the line from this script would have gone as follows; "Beck is famous for one thing; being played by yours truly in a delightful cameo in one of Jay Foreman's fascinating videos from a couple of years ago..."
Disappointment isn't the correct description more a case of what might have been. Especially as we subsequently are given the information.
I just watched Jay Foremen's witty and entertaining video so that I could see Jago's actual face.
Fully expected "Beck is famous for one thing: being portrayed by me in a Jay Foreman video"
Artistic licence - playwright probably knew change of stations but just kept their later names aso audience could not be confused. Unfortunately Mr Beck was a victim of jealousy and politics at work. Also , how about plays about the tube station designers - must have had plenty of frustrations and setbacks with higher management! Thanks for video.
Harry Beck now! No dilly dallying!
The geek shall inherit the earth
Beware of geeks and the .gifs they bring.
Thanks
And thank you!
When is Lues about Harry Beck?
O M G, is Jago ever ever ever going to stop going on and on and on about playing Harry Beck a couple of times?! Even an oblique reference to Yerkes couldn't save him from this absolve him from this devilish crime!
your voice is so much better now raspin is good hhaha
Shame they didn't get Geoff Marshall to play Frank Pick
We all deserved a Beck...er... Break today....😊😅.
Tickets ? Who did you go with , why didnt you ask me (not that I could have gone).
You are the beck to my n call......................................I'll see myself out.
GREAT JH
The truth is his name was Barry Heck
I thought you were Harry beck?
I hate the diagram. Sure, it gives you a rough idea of where the lines go, but an actual map is much more useful. After all, what's the purpose of transit but to get where you're going, and the real world map is different. Fortunately we've got phones now and can see actual maps instead of silly diagrams.
And yes, New York's diagram sucks too.
It's a cartogram
I'm a student at the London College of Communication and I was talking to one of my flatmates last night about a bunch of stuff happening at UAL, and the LCC specifically, and she brought up that one of the designers of the tube map studied at the LCC- though whoever did and when, they would've known it as the London College of Printing. She said Beck rang a bell along those lines, and we have posters for a Harry Beck exhibition from the 1970s or 1990s in our library, but I can't find anything more concrete.
A story without enough maps in it? Was that irony?