The scale wasn’t important and in fact his diagram was perfectly acceptable. It was the logic behind his message that counted. What he did not do is test what he said. What he didn’t realise is that stars are seasonal.
the more important issues were: 1. His drawing was not 3 dimensional, and polaris would've been *above* the diagram, not on the paper. 2. His "line of sight of the night sky" lines were inaccurate, as it was only reflective of *exactly* midnight, on *exactly* the point opposite the sun. in fact, any tangent you draw on the earth would be a view of the sky, and if the sun isn't on the sky it would be night. So the "sky line" he drew could be *much* more angled and we would have areas on the top and bottom of the diagram that would overlap, representing views in the evening and morning, and similar thing would happen to stars above the diagram if we assume a position further north, or below the diagram if we move further south than the point directly opposite to the sun (which isn't exactly the equator, but close)
@@seriokan2971 Yup... The scale isn't the main issue, it's all of the other simplifications he made which he didn't account for. Cause the diagram isn't terrible if you're describing midnight near the equator... But his comment about the "orientation" of the constellations proves he was thinking about a range of times from a significant latitude offset, which is where his model fails to extrapolate.
His diagram was totally fine for a very crude way to convey his point. Literally the only problem he has is that he doesn't realize that we see different stars in different seasons- he probably just assumed they were always the same and didn't think that was correct (which is accurate). He just never verifier that they were always the same.
@@christophsiebert1213 No, because he seems to think the stars disappear. When we're always looking up toward them. So even though we move around the sun, the same stars are above us, just in slightly different locations. This is absolutely an issue of 2D in a 3D world. Because he thinks "up" is changing. That's why his lines go toward the top of the paper, and then the bottom of the paper" when he makes the two E's.
@@douglaswills4624 up does change depending on where you are on earth. Up at the equator will have you looking in a completely different direction than up at the 30th parallel. Up and down are irrelevant in space, unless you specifically evoke our galactic plane. The problem isn't that he thinks up changes, it's that he doesn't realize it does.
Can someone help me understand all the "2D vs 3D" comments on this? Maybe I'm missing something but none of this guys misunderstandings would be solved by going 3D, but both of them can be solved perfectly in 2D. His first mistake doesn't even have to do with his drawing and is just that a good portion of the stars do change with the seasons unlike what he says. But give him te benefit of the doubt and assume he lives extremely far north and it would arguably be only a small percentage, so an understandable mistake in my opinion. His second issue is that he equates the "night" hemisphere with the view of the sky everywhere in that hemisphere. If he'd simply drawn the hemisphere as limited by the horizon from whatever his latitude is then he'd instantly see the overlap between the summer and winter skies on his sketch, which would solve the problem of seeing the same stars. No 3D required. Arguably he could then go "but what about at the equator?" and you'd both have to point out that yes, most stars actually do change there, and also the earth is slightly tilted so the point that faces directly out from the sun is not the same point in all seasons. But this is still easily shown in 2D. Nothing 2D vs 3D in any of this...
The premise of the experiment was good. He just didn't actually think through the full implications. "Given I am here on the earth in the globe model, which stars should I be able to see at various times." Another vibes based argument hiding in a good premise.
There is so much wrong with this... ive tried to get them to answer my question... if the earth is flat, and the sun is above the earth, why cant i zoom in and see the sun at night?
@@LuciferMorningstar-wk8qu also the sun should illuminate a circle below it, with the surrounding areas where the light doesn't reach experiencing night, but obviously those are not the night and day patterns we see in those countries.
This is exactly what I thought. When he draws the "truth" at the bottom of the page, he neglects to draw the sun and show us which side is night. (The bottom!)
@@LuciferMorningstar-wk8qu Because sun is not omnidirectional, it is a spot light that is focused on Earth so that only small portion of it is lighted at any one time. On top of this the sun does not just rotate around a common point but the common point itself rotates to provide different day&night cycles in the northern hemisphere. And as we all know by now, no one has ever observed 24h sunlight in the Antarctic. That is their logic. What is focusing the sunlight and what is blocking the scattered light of the focusing device that would reveal it.. Just a lens would not do, they would have to be barndoor shutters around the sun and the lens so.. what are those things? Nobody knows. They are happy to not know that part and instead ask that we debunk how the thing that they don't know works.
Guess he tried to show his point with crayons, as we all know, flerfs and crayons must never be stored in the same place. “Harry, come and have lunch!” “I’m not hungry, I just ate my crayons!”
Another flerf that can’t think in 3D! 🤦♂️if he drew a load of stars on blank sheet of paper and then held it over the other one, that would have shown him what basically really happens!
Tbf this wouldn't have helped hugely... His "LoS" was drawn wrong, it's not a terrible approximation of midnight directly opposite the sun... But I'd bet he doesn't love somewhere that is ever directly opposite the sun... And he's "observations" are wrong if you take a snapshot at midnight, cause there are stars you can't see at in summer and winter if taken at the same time. And the ones you do see in both you see cause you don't live opposite the sun, so that straight line would be at an angle. Maybe at that point he'd benefit from a bit of 3d thinking, but I reckon he's about 3 steps short of getting even that far.
His mind will really fry when he tries to figure out why there is about a 3 minute and 56 second difference from one day to another, regarding the position of celestial objects.
They always forget, that we can basicly see 180° of the sky facing away from the ground. They only think about "facing away from the sun" and "looking straight up".
This is why we needed Trump back. The democrats have infused the education system with their woke trans loving gay crap, where as we should be teaching proper science and maths. Trump will get rid of this woke Californian garbage and hopefully education will imrpve.
Don't blame it all just on the system. My classmates and I had the same program, same teachers. I remeber very well all the times when regular lazy asses asked me to copy my homework. Some people just don't want to learn anything no matter how you present it to them. This is the result.
This is why I stay up so late! To see the newest Sci Man Dan video drop! This poor fellow needs to get outside more! As I kid I spend a lot of time with my telescope and quickly learned there were Summer constellations and there were Winter constellations. In the Summer the Winter Constellations were gone. And it was exciting to see the Winter constellations return as the days went by. Is he kidding? He's made a Bart Simpson drawing at this point: 11:22
Love getting support in my staying up on RUclips for good reason, also super insightful story I image those very constellations were lived by and memorized by our hunting and navigating ancestors.
As a kid I quickly learnt that if I pointed my simple telescope, on a tripod, at a star, the object would quickly track out of the field of view. Constant manual intervention was required. As I got more sophisticated I could set the telescope up so that objects would track into the field of view. I concluded that I controlled the stars!
I did the same as a kid, lying on the roof of the back yard shed just staring at the stars. That was over 60 years ago, now I can barely see them because of light pollution.
@@MetalMalc I remember my father thinking he had "bumped" the telescope and so the moon was no longer in view. He was so amazed when I explained that everything is in motion -- and you could observe it!
How to tell you cannot think in 3D without telling you cannot think in 3D. What about the constellations that are different from summer and winter (and change every month).
When he says «Yes, the orientation of the stars doesn’t matter.» which is a massive handwaving away of relevant information that contradict his arguments.
Not necessarily. Start can still rotate around the earth in a flat earth model to change their orientation. It is geocentric mode for most of flerfs, everything rotates around a a stationary earth. Having different constellations does not actually prove globe IF we allow starts to rotate and move. They do not have to deliver the mechanism how it works, as long as it can work in one hypothetical model, no matter how ridiculous it is.
Well no, he actually got that right. No matter what the star positions are, the results are still going to be the same. however, he magically got the wrong results.
That's a good point. Americans tend to think the world revolves around us. The April eclipse was a good example. I watched a lot of doomsday videos on tiktok predicting all sorts of disasters during the eclipse. It's almost like we don't think that eclipses happen regularly all over the earth.
Not only do stars appear to orbit the south celestial pole in the southern hemisphere but all the constellations are upside down compared to the northern hemisphere - flerfs can never explain either of those
As is the moon. I've never heard a flerf explain why the moon appears inverted from the southern hemisphere for a visitor from the north. But there must be lots of things flerfs don't want to think,about.
How can you type such a dumb response and not see how wrong it is. If I walk to the other side of the equator, the constellations aren't magically upside down. There is no up and down in space.
When I was a child, I would look for Orion, because it was so recognizable, during the summer and be unable to find it. It became obvious the visible stars changed during the year. What happens during their adulthood that makes flat earthers less wise than children.
Oh dear, the flerf seems to think that, depending on where you are, just after the Sun goes down, a large amount of sky will still be lit up by the Sun and no stars will be seen. He doesn't realise the horizon is a circle at a tangent to the Earth.
Of course, the other big thing that he gets wrong is that night is on the Earth's side facing directly away from the sun, it is of course where the surface is in the Earth's own shadow. This happens from one section of the terminator line to the other and as we rotate from Dusk to Dawn, we see a much larger portion of the sky than just what we see at Midnight when we're directly opposite the sun. Throughout the night, we get to see 80-90% of the stars visible in our hemisphere regardless of the time of year. The only ones we don't get to see are those pretty much directly in line with the sun as they will be lost in the sun's glare during the day as they would rise with the sun, or at least close enough to it they will remain hidden by the sun's glare from the time they rise to the time they set. For the equatorial band stars, it is the time of day that we see them that will change throughout the year, while depending on our latitude we will see the same circumpolar stars all year round, and as Dan stated, it's their position at a specific time that changes throughout the year.
Has anyone ever in their personal life come across somebody who speaks like a Flerf? If anyone in my life was as arrogant, condescending, and ignorant they would be shunned by everyone. Maybe that is why they only exist on the internet?
and to make it even better, here in Australia, if you were to see Orion, the orientation would be completely different, if you were on the Equator, the orientation of Orion would also be different. that ultimately supports a globe Earth, as how would the constellations work on a dirt pizza world? not very well I suspect.
Congratulations on copying someone elses comment that people have been copying for years now. So original. It literally shows up one to five times in the comments of every flat earth debunking video. And not one person quoted the original comment, they just act like they came up with it. Plagiarism.
No disrespect Dan but this guy's 'explanation' was so cumbersome and tedious that I couldn't summon up the patience to watch him stumble through it all, knowing full well that it would reveal the level of understanding of a brick. Hmm - maybe a bit unfair on bricks there.
mate... i know you need to make money but put adverts later on. it actually makes me lose interest in the video. if you put them 3/4ths in i'm already that far and i won't click off. i pay for youtube premium so maybe i'm less tolerant towards adverts... anyone who agrees like or comment. and no i don't care how many likes and comments i get. been watching you since less than 30k also flerf dude sometimes sounds like bob from bobs burgers/archer
Won't the final experiment trip just end while they stay in Argentina, As they look up one night and witness the moon the wrong way up, and a whole new sky full of stars and constellations, and somehow those we see all year round have suddenly disappeared ... I just don't understand what will be said, if they say direct observation is the key to realizing the earth is flat, then what realization can be made from this new observation, they will need to be able to give a coherent explanation and be required by their own logic we can see it so explain it, then integrate into their flat earth model if one exists?
I immediately thought of Orion as soon as I saw where he was going with this. I would like to know how he explains Orion only being visible in the winter. Unless he has no idea what Orion or any other constellation looks like.
His problem: he confuses 2 ideas of "visibility" 1) from the midpoint of the shaded half of Earth (what he draws), 2) his PERSONAL visibility in the Northern hemisphere. "His" visibility is different. It's a hemisphere TANGENT to his local ground. In winter/ summer, "his" visibility hemispheres significantly overlap near the N pole.
I've noticed a lot of flat erthers draw 2D images to try and debunk a 3D reality.... like, yeah? Your model of a globe doesn't work on a flat piece of paper..... but you know what does work on a flat price of paper? Flat earth.... which is the only place it can work. Guess that's why it's "flat earth"..
After having this thought, wouldn’t the obvious next step be googling “how do we see the same stars all year round”? If he’d done that he’d have found out immediately that we don’t see the same stars all year. They don’t even bother taking a single step towards answering their question.
Wow, he could have ended the video after “I’m an idiot” but he went on to further prove why that’s the case. He wouldn’t accept this video as proof because it debunks his theory.
At least this guy seems like he could be convinced with a good explanation and some time. Unlike the other grifters who just make up layers of contradictions and fluffy word salad
his problem is that he's imagining this in a 2d plane, nice job pointing out the equatorial view, I still think he might need some further demonstration for people further north or south
I do watch the stars. AND, I do see a different set of stars in the different seasons. The flatard first says that the stars don't change, then says they do but that that doesn't matter.
Apparently, he wants to offer proof of his statement that he is an idiot. Well done, he succeeded!!
And the saddest part is that he didn't need to tell us that he's an idiot, it's as clear as the night stars
And somehow he is convinced to be smarter than all the astrophysicists and professors combined
Glerf..
@@Topofdescent55No, clearer. Light pollution makes stars less clear in many places.
@@DanielMWJ It's sad, isn't it.
"It's not to scale, doesn't matter you'll see my point", then goes on to completely misunderstand because it's not to scale. Dear oh dear.
The scale wasn’t important and in fact his diagram was perfectly acceptable. It was the logic behind his message that counted. What he did not do is test what he said. What he didn’t realise is that stars are seasonal.
the more important issues were:
1. His drawing was not 3 dimensional, and polaris would've been *above* the diagram, not on the paper.
2. His "line of sight of the night sky" lines were inaccurate, as it was only reflective of *exactly* midnight, on *exactly* the point opposite the sun. in fact, any tangent you draw on the earth would be a view of the sky, and if the sun isn't on the sky it would be night.
So the "sky line" he drew could be *much* more angled and we would have areas on the top and bottom of the diagram that would overlap, representing views in the evening and morning, and similar thing would happen to stars above the diagram if we assume a position further north, or below the diagram if we move further south than the point directly opposite to the sun (which isn't exactly the equator, but close)
@@seriokan2971 Yup... The scale isn't the main issue, it's all of the other simplifications he made which he didn't account for.
Cause the diagram isn't terrible if you're describing midnight near the equator... But his comment about the "orientation" of the constellations proves he was thinking about a range of times from a significant latitude offset, which is where his model fails to extrapolate.
His diagram was totally fine for a very crude way to convey his point. Literally the only problem he has is that he doesn't realize that we see different stars in different seasons- he probably just assumed they were always the same and didn't think that was correct (which is accurate). He just never verifier that they were always the same.
@@eewweeppkkThey aren't even the same year to year, either. They're on a tens-of-millennia cycle of succession.
2D thinking in a 3D world.
I mean, here it kinda does work out still. Even in 2D his explanation makes sense and IS observble on our globe.
@@christophsiebert1213 No, because he seems to think the stars disappear. When we're always looking up toward them. So even though we move around the sun, the same stars are above us, just in slightly different locations. This is absolutely an issue of 2D in a 3D world. Because he thinks "up" is changing. That's why his lines go toward the top of the paper, and then the bottom of the paper" when he makes the two E's.
@@douglaswills4624 up does change depending on where you are on earth. Up at the equator will have you looking in a completely different direction than up at the 30th parallel. Up and down are irrelevant in space, unless you specifically evoke our galactic plane. The problem isn't that he thinks up changes, it's that he doesn't realize it does.
Can someone help me understand all the "2D vs 3D" comments on this? Maybe I'm missing something but none of this guys misunderstandings would be solved by going 3D, but both of them can be solved perfectly in 2D.
His first mistake doesn't even have to do with his drawing and is just that a good portion of the stars do change with the seasons unlike what he says. But give him te benefit of the doubt and assume he lives extremely far north and it would arguably be only a small percentage, so an understandable mistake in my opinion.
His second issue is that he equates the "night" hemisphere with the view of the sky everywhere in that hemisphere. If he'd simply drawn the hemisphere as limited by the horizon from whatever his latitude is then he'd instantly see the overlap between the summer and winter skies on his sketch, which would solve the problem of seeing the same stars. No 3D required.
Arguably he could then go "but what about at the equator?" and you'd both have to point out that yes, most stars actually do change there, and also the earth is slightly tilted so the point that faces directly out from the sun is not the same point in all seasons. But this is still easily shown in 2D.
Nothing 2D vs 3D in any of this...
Was just gonna type that
It's always fun when flat earthers prove the globe without realizing it
The only thing he was 100% correct on was his admission that he was an idiot.
The premise of the experiment was good. He just didn't actually think through the full implications. "Given I am here on the earth in the globe model, which stars should I be able to see at various times."
Another vibes based argument hiding in a good premise.
"night time can only be the side facing away from the sun" but in the standard FE model, the whole Earth is facing the sun all the time... 🤔
There is so much wrong with this... ive tried to get them to answer my question... if the earth is flat, and the sun is above the earth, why cant i zoom in and see the sun at night?
@@LuciferMorningstar-wk8qu also the sun should illuminate a circle below it, with the surrounding areas where the light doesn't reach experiencing night, but obviously those are not the night and day patterns we see in those countries.
They have a standard model?! 😂
This is exactly what I thought. When he draws the "truth" at the bottom of the page, he neglects to draw the sun and show us which side is night. (The bottom!)
@@LuciferMorningstar-wk8qu Because sun is not omnidirectional, it is a spot light that is focused on Earth so that only small portion of it is lighted at any one time. On top of this the sun does not just rotate around a common point but the common point itself rotates to provide different day&night cycles in the northern hemisphere. And as we all know by now, no one has ever observed 24h sunlight in the Antarctic.
That is their logic. What is focusing the sunlight and what is blocking the scattered light of the focusing device that would reveal it.. Just a lens would not do, they would have to be barndoor shutters around the sun and the lens so.. what are those things?
Nobody knows. They are happy to not know that part and instead ask that we debunk how the thing that they don't know works.
He didn't even try to look for existing explanation - he hatched entire new reality inside his head and called it a day.
The Dunning-Kruger self confidence at work. Rgr
"I'm an idiot, let me tell you why the earth is flat and science is wrong."... ooooooouch
Thank you for the summary! :D
Can science ever be wrong?
As usual, instead of thinking, hmmm this doesn't make sense to me, maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, they think everyone else is wrong.
Some people aren't safe to be left with just a pen and paper
Guess he tried to show his point with crayons, as we all know, flerfs and crayons must never be stored in the same place.
“Harry, come and have lunch!”
“I’m not hungry, I just ate my crayons!”
That's not just a pen. It's a soft felt tip and it's still not safe.😂
Reminds me of another Sharpie user who constantly proves his lack of, well, everything.
That's a sharpie. In the hands of a flerf, they are even more hazardous than pens.
@@Kualinar Sharpies are great for NOAA hurricane maps.
Tell me you don't understand 3 dimensional space without telling me.
That face at the end! Classic! It did make me wonder if he was actually trolling flerfs because it’s so ridiculous.
I'm baffled...has he never looked up during different nights of the year?
Impossible to say because we don't know if he has a window in his basement.
Flerfs don't go outside at night.
He lives in a city, he can only see stars when looking straight up due to light pollution
@@davidioanhedges Nah, he just sees his low ceiling.
He's probably only looked north and seen the circumpolar stars every time. As Dan said, he's forgotten that he doesn't live at the equator.
Reinventing stupidity is a career.
I give him part marks for the ‘I’m an idiot’ statement. Nailed it.
Harrison is SO stupidly confident, and SO confidently stupid.
I hope he comes with his own facepalm warning
An unbeatable combination 😅
The essence of the Dunning-Kruger effect is confident stupidity.
This is a perfect example of someone not knowing what the f*** he’s talking about..
We in Finland see same stars in winter and in summer we see a star , called sun nearly 24/7 🙂
Prediction: Dude can't 3D.
Conclusion: Yep
"I'm an idiot" and proceeds to try and prove a flatearth. Willful ignorance bad...education good.
He must be related to Anthony Riley.
3:02 - "I'm an idiot..."
Well, I wasn't going to go there, Harrison; but... now that you mention it...
The shocked face in the drawing at the end was unintentional but appropriate
With big ears 😂😂
How do these people even make it into adulthood
Careful supervision and the ability to spot on without causing an interaction or collision.
Toddults.
Another flerf that can’t think in 3D! 🤦♂️if he drew a load of stars on blank sheet of paper and then held it over the other one, that would have shown him what basically really happens!
Tbf this wouldn't have helped hugely... His "LoS" was drawn wrong, it's not a terrible approximation of midnight directly opposite the sun...
But I'd bet he doesn't love somewhere that is ever directly opposite the sun...
And he's "observations" are wrong if you take a snapshot at midnight, cause there are stars you can't see at in summer and winter if taken at the same time.
And the ones you do see in both you see cause you don't live opposite the sun, so that straight line would be at an angle.
Maybe at that point he'd benefit from a bit of 3d thinking, but I reckon he's about 3 steps short of getting even that far.
He's just proved globe earth ....
just like most flat earth tests ...
His mind will really fry when he tries to figure out why there is about a 3 minute and 56 second difference from one day to another, regarding the position of celestial objects.
I have never seen Polaris, but then again Australia doesn't exist, and flerfers aren't real!
G'day from the non-existent down under.🇦🇺👍🏻
My 8 year old laughed at this guy.
Love when flatopians debunk themselves!
Spock: "His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking"
They always forget, that we can basicly see 180° of the sky facing away from the ground.
They only think about "facing away from the sun" and "looking straight up".
For them, just after Sun set, at midnight and just before Sun rise, don't mater. In their «minds», any night time moment is midnight.
I wonder if he thinks like that because he thinks its also only dark in space on the nighttime side
The educational system is indicted again.
This is why we needed Trump back. The democrats have infused the education system with their woke trans loving gay crap, where as we should be teaching proper science and maths. Trump will get rid of this woke Californian garbage and hopefully education will imrpve.
Don't blame it all just on the system. My classmates and I had the same program, same teachers. I remeber very well all the times when regular lazy asses asked me to copy my homework. Some people just don't want to learn anything no matter how you present it to them. This is the result.
@@darkkard123 Some kids need a different style of teaching, too bad we cant have more individualized lesson plains
"Not to scale..."
And yet his whole argument fails because he cannot comprehend scale himself.
This is why I stay up so late! To see the newest Sci Man Dan video drop!
This poor fellow needs to get outside more! As I kid I spend a lot of time with my telescope and quickly learned there were Summer constellations and there were Winter constellations. In the Summer the Winter Constellations were gone. And it was exciting to see the Winter constellations return as the days went by.
Is he kidding? He's made a Bart Simpson drawing at this point: 11:22
Love getting support in my staying up on RUclips for good reason, also super insightful story I image those very constellations were lived by and memorized by our hunting and navigating ancestors.
As a kid I quickly learnt that if I pointed my simple telescope, on a tripod, at a star, the object would quickly track out of the field of view. Constant manual intervention was required. As I got more sophisticated I could set the telescope up so that objects would track into the field of view. I concluded that I controlled the stars!
I did the same as a kid, lying on the roof of the back yard shed just staring at the stars. That was over 60 years ago, now I can barely see them because of light pollution.
@@treadingtheboards2875 I've had the same experience with light pollution. It's kind of ruined amateur astronomy.
@@MetalMalc I remember my father thinking he had "bumped" the telescope and so the moon was no longer in view. He was so amazed when I explained that everything is in motion -- and you could observe it!
How to tell you cannot think in 3D without telling you cannot think in 3D.
What about the constellations that are different from summer and winter (and change every month).
I look forward to reading all about it in the next issue of Nature.
Aww the flerf drew a doggy. Give him a sticker.
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Dammit, you beat me to it, I was going to say the exact same thing 😂
Not so fast buds.
Serious superposition issue here.
Schroedingers Sticker Dilemma....Is it a yellow smiley face or is it a gold star?
It's a clown face so it's basically a mirror he's holding.
Rorschach test.....?🤔
When he says «Yes, the orientation of the stars doesn’t matter.» which is a massive handwaving away of relevant information that contradict his arguments.
Not necessarily. Start can still rotate around the earth in a flat earth model to change their orientation. It is geocentric mode for most of flerfs, everything rotates around a a stationary earth. Having different constellations does not actually prove globe IF we allow starts to rotate and move. They do not have to deliver the mechanism how it works, as long as it can work in one hypothetical model, no matter how ridiculous it is.
Well no, he actually got that right. No matter what the star positions are, the results are still going to be the same. however, he magically got the wrong results.
When he says "we", I think he means "We the People of the United States..."
Nov 7, 2024. Totally agree.
That's a good point. Americans tend to think the world revolves around us. The April eclipse was a good example. I watched a lot of doomsday videos on tiktok predicting all sorts of disasters during the eclipse. It's almost like we don't think that eclipses happen regularly all over the earth.
@@karlchilders8215 Hollywood movies don’t help, everything happen in America and affect only America
He thought he had an argument, but did not confirm it with reality...
Classic FLERF tactics, over-simplification and lies.
He got his messege across well.
But he forgot about the 3rd dimension.
Thinking that scale doesn’t matter is flat earthers biggest problem. They just can’t seem to get their head around it.
The anonymous "they" does a lot of heavy lifting in conspiracy circles 🙄
He's right. Stars do indeed just circle above you... when you're a baby in a crib looking up at a mobile.
People who live close to the equator are baffled, it’s like this guy thinks the world is flat…😮
dam, i'm finally convinced. All it took was a 2 year old's drawing on a white page.
Not only do stars appear to orbit the south celestial pole in the southern hemisphere but all the constellations are upside down compared to the northern hemisphere - flerfs can never explain either of those
As is the moon. I've never heard a flerf explain why the moon appears inverted from the southern hemisphere for a visitor from the north. But there must be lots of things flerfs don't want to think,about.
I'd love to see constellation Scorpius at zenith! And Alpha Centauri and Achernar and Acrux ...
@@riconui5227 Come on we all know the southern hemisphere is a hoax...
@@riconui5227when I was on the Southern hemisphere that was one of first things I looked out for on the first night. Quite awesome
How can you type such a dumb response and not see how wrong it is. If I walk to the other side of the equator, the constellations aren't magically upside down. There is no up and down in space.
When I was a child, I would look for Orion, because it was so recognizable, during the summer and be unable to find it. It became obvious the visible stars changed during the year. What happens during their adulthood that makes flat earthers less wise than children.
We already heard the Surfshark pitch a million times. Video start at 1:57
Either this hypocrite has also never looked at the sky, or has only ever looked northwards.
He should travel to Australia and look South. He may learn something.
@@MinionTroubleI'm sure he has a flerf handwave for that.
"You probably don't know if you've never looked at the stars" You mean... like you never did, apparently?
Oh dear, the flerf seems to think that, depending on where you are, just after the Sun goes down, a large amount of sky will still be lit up by the Sun and no stars will be seen.
He doesn't realise the horizon is a circle at a tangent to the Earth.
Of course, the other big thing that he gets wrong is that night is on the Earth's side facing directly away from the sun, it is of course where the surface is in the Earth's own shadow. This happens from one section of the terminator line to the other and as we rotate from Dusk to Dawn, we see a much larger portion of the sky than just what we see at Midnight when we're directly opposite the sun. Throughout the night, we get to see 80-90% of the stars visible in our hemisphere regardless of the time of year. The only ones we don't get to see are those pretty much directly in line with the sun as they will be lost in the sun's glare during the day as they would rise with the sun, or at least close enough to it they will remain hidden by the sun's glare from the time they rise to the time they set. For the equatorial band stars, it is the time of day that we see them that will change throughout the year, while depending on our latitude we will see the same circumpolar stars all year round, and as Dan stated, it's their position at a specific time that changes throughout the year.
Not fair!!!!!! He gets to do astrophysics with kindergarten sketches and I had to solve nonlinear differential equations! And Maxwell's too.
Has anyone ever in their personal life come across somebody who speaks like a Flerf? If anyone in my life was as arrogant, condescending, and ignorant they would be shunned by everyone. Maybe that is why they only exist on the internet?
Well one of them just got elected president, so apparently they are out there
He fails to understand his vision cone goes past the vertical dashed line he's showing (from the place he lives).
and to make it even better, here in Australia, if you were to see Orion, the orientation would be completely different, if you were on the Equator, the orientation of Orion would also be different.
that ultimately supports a globe Earth, as how would the constellations work on a dirt pizza world? not very well I suspect.
He can't think in three dimensions. 🤦♂️🙇
If the earth was flat, cats would push things off the edge.
Cats cannot climb the icewall, so things are safe there. And since space doesn't exist, cats couldn't push things off anyway.
Congratulations on copying someone elses comment that people have been copying for years now. So original. It literally shows up one to five times in the comments of every flat earth debunking video. And not one person quoted the original comment, they just act like they came up with it. Plagiarism.
His 2D map has failed him badly. He is going to be mind blown when he discovers the 3rd dimension.
Putting a flerf brain in charge of an adult human body is tantamount to putting a toddler on the driver's seat of a Ferrari.
Could be a Volkswagen too.
He was so close to the right answer
Flerfs endlessly parrot commrnts about stars never moving etc,yet i bet not one of them can even point to a single constellation.
His stars are not to scale. Mainstream astronomers do not think they are tiny dots distributed within and around the solar system.
MMmm MMM Debunkalicious..
Wait untill this *new* flerf get demolished by FTFE or Toon. So they disappear like the rest
No disrespect Dan but this guy's 'explanation' was so cumbersome and tedious that I couldn't summon up the patience to watch him stumble through it all, knowing full well that it would reveal the level of understanding of a brick. Hmm - maybe a bit unfair on bricks there.
5:48 Instantly know he's only thinking in 2D
Ridiculous. Everybody knows that if the earth were flat, cats would have knocked everything off it already.
Localized thinking. Or he doesn’t spend enough time observing the night sky.
Any East Coast Americans up with me at 3am? Haha
Yeah 😂
hi
CST for me, but yes!
"I hope you can understand." Yes we understand how you've failed to understand.
mate... i know you need to make money but put adverts later on. it actually makes me lose interest in the video. if you put them 3/4ths in i'm already that far and i won't click off. i pay for youtube premium so maybe i'm less tolerant towards adverts... anyone who agrees like or comment. and no i don't care how many likes and comments i get.
been watching you since less than 30k
also flerf dude sometimes sounds like bob from bobs burgers/archer
I have premium too, I like sponsor reads at the beginning, just to get them out the way.
I didn't actually get an ad in that video. Not sure why you did.
Get over it
just skip ahead a minute or so, vast majority of yourbers do it this way, its very simple
Stop being gay
Was that just a long winded way of drawing a clown face?
Won't the final experiment trip just end while they stay in Argentina, As they look up one night and witness the moon the wrong way up, and a whole new sky full of stars and constellations, and somehow those we see all year round have suddenly disappeared ... I just don't understand what will be said, if they say direct observation is the key to realizing the earth is flat, then what realization can be made from this new observation, they will need to be able to give a coherent explanation and be required by their own logic we can see it so explain it, then integrate into their flat earth model if one exists?
The flerfs won't even notice the moon orientation. They don't ever look at and study the night sky.
I immediately thought of Orion as soon as I saw where he was going with this. I would like to know how he explains Orion only being visible in the winter. Unless he has no idea what Orion or any other constellation looks like.
my favourite Dan content is:
* CC Chris from New york Westchester county
* New flerfs
* Flat earth compilation
His problem: he confuses 2 ideas of "visibility" 1) from the midpoint of the shaded half of Earth (what he draws), 2) his PERSONAL visibility in the Northern hemisphere. "His" visibility is different. It's a hemisphere TANGENT to his local ground. In winter/ summer, "his" visibility hemispheres significantly overlap near the N pole.
This guy using a 5 year olds understanding of 3d space thinking he's cracked the code :D
Can high tower explain why I can’t see the southern cross from England at any time of the year?
SciManDan:: -See the issue there?
Me: -No he does not. Because he's an idiot.
Ding! (courtesy of Team Skeptic).
I've noticed a lot of flat erthers draw 2D images to try and debunk a 3D reality.... like, yeah? Your model of a globe doesn't work on a flat piece of paper..... but you know what does work on a flat price of paper? Flat earth.... which is the only place it can work.
Guess that's why it's "flat earth"..
It's telling how many of these folks who insist "use your senses" don't actually use their senses.
Once again, a flerf with no concept of 3D.
He seems to not understand tilt, angle rotation and time.
Let me add distance as well.
He never took a picture to compare, that would be the first step 🪜
I'm seeing stars!
No just one.
Hi I'm Troy McClure
Do they put something in the food and water in America? Thick As Mince.
Thing is, theres a twilight zone on earth.
Its not half bright day, and hald dark night.
Australia and New Z then? They can't see North star. Flatt Idi... 🤣
Oh, he was quite clever in the end making a self portrait as he went along, didn't see that coming :D
The evidence indeed shows: the guys is a complete idiot after all! 👏👏👏👏
After having this thought, wouldn’t the obvious next step be googling “how do we see the same stars all year round”? If he’d done that he’d have found out immediately that we don’t see the same stars all year. They don’t even bother taking a single step towards answering their question.
Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one...
Wow, he could have ended the video after “I’m an idiot” but he went on to further prove why that’s the case. He wouldn’t accept this video as proof because it debunks his theory.
His error was to draw a conclusion instead of making a question (and researching the answer).
Please Please travel to Australia and try that explanation again starman. No Polaris in sight.
At least this guy seems like he could be convinced with a good explanation and some time. Unlike the other grifters who just make up layers of contradictions and fluffy word salad
his problem is that he's imagining this in a 2d plane, nice job pointing out the equatorial view, I still think he might need some further demonstration for people further north or south
I do watch the stars. AND, I do see a different set of stars in the different seasons. The flatard first says that the stars don't change, then says they do but that that doesn't matter.