Game seemed interesting when I first heard of it, but I can see the replayability being lacking if the random card deck doesn't offer enough excitement. Also, 10:22 until Arcs is mentioned, for those keeping track.
I was getting tired of euros. Then SETI came along and gave me a euro experience I simply cannot stay away from. I love it to tiny micrometeorite bits.
Hey Tom… As weird as this is gonna sound, in my dream last night I ran into you at Walmart and was telling you how two years ago I wouldn’t have ever imagined that my only set notifications on RUclips would be for a British guy talking about board games, but that’s what my life has come to… I guess if RUclips is the Walmart of the internet, the prophecy has come true. 🤷🏽♂️
I think what is understated here is the feeling of the game. For me personally, euro-games are mostly try-it-out games, been there done that. SETI doesn't have any new mechanic, but the theme and mechanics are interwoven in a great way. I really feel like I am exploring space and that's why I want to play it again and again. The theme just nailed me. Grounded but fun. What also needs to be said, the scanning is unbalanced in 2 player games and needs houserulling.
Looks interesting, but I'm not sure I have room for it in a collection that already has Terraforming Mars, Bitoku, and Barrage. Still, great video! Pax Penning review when?
Galactic Cruise also have a great player aid booklet for each player, one of the best designed games I've ever come across, both mechanically and physically. Great review, good balance of humour and genuine review making it slightly more succinct, and probably easier for you guys to produce compared to the more humour-verbose ones :P
From Wikipedia: "Current observational evidence (WMAP, BOOMERanG, and Planck for example) imply that the observable universe is spatially flat to within a 0.4% margin of error of the curvature density parameter with an unknown global topology." (as a physicist I couldn't resist)
I was pleasantly surprised at the newish team this game has, but then I saw the board, and tokens, and all that... and I don't want to play this, and this is perfectly fine. :p
flat space is already a thing tom - it's a general relativity thing and is somewhat flat near nothing, as gravity causes spacetime to curve so near black holes spacetime is not very flat (it doesn't have anything to do with *2d* space, though)
Actually gravity's AoE is nigh infinite, which makes even empty space _slightly_ curved. We're talking infinitesimally small curves, but curves nonetheless.
Sounds a great game…. I see you still have shares in Arcs…not got this myself mainly because it’s been overhyped plus seen a few reviews that say there are some major flaws in the game… SETI looks good so will give it a try.
The bane of "uninteresting opening turns" is something that even great designers can forget to avoid. If the opening turns of a game are either irrelevant, usually the same, or non-strategic because you're waiting for "the reveal", then you need to design the game with the reveal up front so players can get on with it from the jump.
From Tom's review, I'd guess those first few turns are very important for the first couple of games, as they teach you how to handle all the ressources before the true game starts. IMO for a situation like that the best would be an "advanced start" option where you skip the first few turns and have instead more complex and highly asymmetric starting position. Maybe something generated with cards like the Prelude cards of Terraforming Mars.
I'm not seeing anything here that makes me want to buy/play this over Beyond the Sun. Also, don't forget the spinney board in Last Light for a more 4x experience.
I know someone who actually is from another planet , he told me they been here way before us humans been.. in hidden cities under the ocean and under mountains and they will still be here way after humans are gone/extinct. They don't see us as their equals , more like completely indifferent to us except for a very few like him, just barely as a curiosity. We are just too animalistic/primitive to bother for their time and honestly who can blame them? trying to officially contact them will be fruitless, but hey nice board game lol
My impression is that the game is fine, but too long for what it is. People say their 4 player games last 4-5 hours, and that just sounds a bit too much.
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I enjoy that Tom didn't lose an opportunity to talk about Arcs and to eat an egg on Ark Nova.
Game seemed interesting when I first heard of it, but I can see the replayability being lacking if the random card deck doesn't offer enough excitement. Also, 10:22 until Arcs is mentioned, for those keeping track.
My preorder of Arcs got delayed until December, so I'm getting really impatient for it.
I was getting tired of euros. Then SETI came along and gave me a euro experience I simply cannot stay away from. I love it to tiny micrometeorite bits.
So you are saying it is out of the world?
Hey Tom… As weird as this is gonna sound, in my dream last night I ran into you at Walmart and was telling you how two years ago I wouldn’t have ever imagined that my only set notifications on RUclips would be for a British guy talking about board games, but that’s what my life has come to… I guess if RUclips is the Walmart of the internet, the prophecy has come true. 🤷🏽♂️
Walmart is stocking Tom! Wow.... they are getting ready for Christmans.
@ Just imagine opening your very own Tom Brewster for Christmas! Come Black Friday, I’m going straight to that isle.
@@josephterranella5007 sign me up. I am tired of solo play.
I think what is understated here is the feeling of the game. For me personally, euro-games are mostly try-it-out games, been there done that. SETI doesn't have any new mechanic, but the theme and mechanics are interwoven in a great way. I really feel like I am exploring space and that's why I want to play it again and again. The theme just nailed me. Grounded but fun. What also needs to be said, the scanning is unbalanced in 2 player games and needs houserulling.
Ready, seti, go!
BAN THIS MAN IMMEDIATELY.
Looks interesting, but I'm not sure I have room for it in a collection that already has Terraforming Mars, Bitoku, and Barrage. Still, great video! Pax Penning review when?
Galactic Cruise also have a great player aid booklet for each player, one of the best designed games I've ever come across, both mechanically and physically. Great review, good balance of humour and genuine review making it slightly more succinct, and probably easier for you guys to produce compared to the more humour-verbose ones :P
I enjoy Sol:Last Days of a Star quite a lot.
Ctg using (pioneering really) rewood and replastic should be lauded. Hopefully they become the norm some day.
what does it mattet anymore? usa just elected someone who doesnt think global warming is real.
why does it matter anymore? usa just elected someone who doesnt even believe in global warming.
From Wikipedia: "Current observational evidence (WMAP, BOOMERanG, and Planck for example) imply that the observable universe is spatially flat to within a 0.4% margin of error of the curvature density parameter with an unknown global topology." (as a physicist I couldn't resist)
But 3+1D flat instead of 2D flat.
Aliems. I am not saying it is Tom... but it is Tom.
Would like to see your take on High Frontier 4 All. It's getting a new expansion soon. People just don't know how deep this hobby goes.
Excellent video
I was pleasantly surprised at the newish team this game has, but then I saw the board, and tokens, and all that... and I don't want to play this, and this is perfectly fine. :p
flat space is already a thing tom - it's a general relativity thing and is somewhat flat near nothing, as gravity causes spacetime to curve so near black holes spacetime is not very flat
(it doesn't have anything to do with *2d* space, though)
physics pedantry aside, good review though, thanks for the vid
1:18 Do you not know that space is actually flat? "According to NASA, the universe is flat to within a 0.4% margin of error."
I feel lied to! I had assumed Seti was a follow up to Ra!
Egypt joke
I'll see myself out
Isis what you did there
Honestly.. the thumbnail scared me away before the review.. Just so much on the table instils the dread of teaching it.
The universe is topographically flat, so everything in it must also be flat.
Tom the atom is late as always, the devil is not laughing
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Space is actually quite flat. As in, it is not hyperbolic or spherical, just boring euclidean, flat and straight lines.
Actually gravity's AoE is nigh infinite, which makes even empty space _slightly_ curved. We're talking infinitesimally small curves, but curves nonetheless.
1:40 Tanki Online Control point lost sound effect? Anyone?
Thanks! I love your conclusion! It’s exactly how I feel about this game after playtesting it at Spiel24. Too much hype... it's not good for the game.
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Euros *yaaaaaaaawn*
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Sounds a great game…. I see you still have shares in Arcs…not got this myself mainly because it’s been overhyped plus seen a few reviews that say there are some major flaws in the game… SETI looks good so will give it a try.
The bane of "uninteresting opening turns" is something that even great designers can forget to avoid.
If the opening turns of a game are either irrelevant, usually the same, or non-strategic because you're waiting for "the reveal", then you need to design the game with the reveal up front so players can get on with it from the jump.
From Tom's review, I'd guess those first few turns are very important for the first couple of games, as they teach you how to handle all the ressources before the true game starts.
IMO for a situation like that the best would be an "advanced start" option where you skip the first few turns and have instead more complex and highly asymmetric starting position. Maybe something generated with cards like the Prelude cards of Terraforming Mars.
I needed cheering up after the election. Thanks Tom.
I'm not seeing anything here that makes me want to buy/play this over Beyond the Sun.
Also, don't forget the spinney board in Last Light for a more 4x experience.
I know someone who actually is from another planet , he told me they been here way before us humans been.. in hidden cities under the ocean and under mountains and they will still be here way after humans are gone/extinct. They don't see us as their equals , more like completely indifferent to us except for a very few like him, just barely as a curiosity. We are just too animalistic/primitive to bother for their time and honestly who can blame them? trying to officially contact them will be fruitless, but hey nice board game lol
My impression is that the game is fine, but too long for what it is. People say their 4 player games last 4-5 hours, and that just sounds a bit too much.
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