Virginia sheriff’s officials put on Brady list after courthouse dispute | FOX5 DC
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2021
- The Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office has placed two sheriff’s officials on their "Brady list" following a spat at a courthouse security checkpoint involving the commonwealth’s attorney. MORE: bit.ly/3EHYWsu
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ANY officer, deputy, trooper, etc. that falsifies statements on a report or knowingly files a false report should not only be on the Brady list, they should have their state certification revoked. They should never be a cop again!
The fact of the matter is that they all LIE...!!! They get away with perjury on a regular basis and as far as I'm concerned none of them should be taken at their word...if they don't have hard proof like video and audio evidence, they should not be able to convict anyone. Their word means nothing as does the oath they made.!!!
If every cop that lied under oath lost their certification there would be very few cops.
@@roberthooper2242 I am good with that as the ones left would be who I WANT on the job!!!!
@@roberthooper2242 that wouldnt be a bad thing. It would out the reat and all new officers on notice
No really they need to be prosecuted because presenting a false document to the court is a crime I believe a felony
A Sheriff's internal investigation of them investigating themselves is worthless.
this is a dispute between two bureaucrats.But where is the break in the law? There's nothing in this story that says anyone did anything that was illegal. This is a pissing contest between two bureaucrats. And they're using the Brady list to get their revenge. this is the way bureaucrats work, if they can't get you one way they'll try to get you another. it's less of an example of policemen's conduct and more of an example of the way bureaucrats deal with anything.
It is also interesting that at the end of the video, a spokesperson for the county sheriff's office, I believe, makes the assertion that this has never happened in their department before. Makes me wonder how well they police themselves. if they've never had it a case of misconduct.or perhaps his assertion is a misstatement of fact. Interestingly that's what this dispute is about about misrepresenting the facts; either the sheriff's office has never policed themselves and never found any wrongdoing, or they've never had a policeman do anything wrong, imagine that, or this is a misstatement. the precise reason for the difficulty between these two bureaucratic entities.
Then have Fox do a piece on it...
They had already gave their "findings" at 1:21
So what are they investigating?
@@Subangelisthey are investigating to see if they were heros or not.
@@joekev27they're investigating to confirm the well known fact that they indeed are all heros, and they are insulted at the mere suggestion that they're even capable of wrong doing.
They don't like being held accountable do they
But if they are willing to give false testimony in such a frivolous matter, imagine what they will do in a serious one
Have police EVER "investigated themselves" and found themselves at fault?
Yes
@@Leatherneck3376but mostly no. Mostly when they investigate themselves the result is "we found no wrong doing, in fact we uncovered the truth that were all heroes and deserve to be treated as such. We are insulted by the mere suggestion that we are capable of any wrong"
Yes they have, normally whilst the Officer is on two weeks, Paid Vacation, in Cancun and on his return he is scolded, reprimanded and chastised!
Around one month later they are, normally, elevated to a higher rank with all the trimmings that comes with having a superior status!
There are tales of a secret handshake and a mysterious box that contains a special garment, only to be warn in view of others that are in the HCOI club. The wearing of the Hero Cape Of Invincibility should not be taken lightly and once worn, the Tattoo of a marked man shall be placed upon his person, in the shape of an elongated Sparta helmet above a Significant Number!
In Hoc Signo Vinces
Only when there is glaring video evidence and public outcry for justice. But it isnt a guarantee. Do toddlers ever ground themselves when they do wrong??
NEVER! They might say so in a press release, as they attempt to fool the public into believing otherwise, BUT the 'blue brotherhood' ALWAYS "protects and defends" one of their own.
Judges need to start going to jail too for being so childish and believing anything of police officer says
How about judges being held accountable for what happens after they slap repeat offenders on the wrist.
They absolutely believe that they are above the law.
Yep. Because right now, they are. :(
It appears the Deputies are telling the truth because on the video, the ONLY person chewing azz is the attorney to the Deputy. Why won't the court system release the first part of the video that would show if the attorney really did throw his umbrella into the machine??? What don't they want us to see???
@@thomasjoseph5876Oh my gawd, Please take the boot out of your mouth.
That is THE greatest, and most beneficial perk that comes from being a member of the 'blue brotherhood'.
How dare they treat these sovereign citizens like normal people, didn't they know they're above the law.
Just racist axx pigs as usual nothing to see here
They still have jobs
@@andykrueger7564 the Club protects itself
Well said my friend 🥃
That makes absolutely no sense. Since "normal" people don't get put on The Brady list. Only law enforcement get put on The Brady list so by definition they're not going to be treated like normal people. Derp
Well, if they even find themselves out of a job, they could consider relocating to Phoenix. That PD seems to ONLY hire Brady List cops.
Lol I live here
Dude, Arizona as a whole is a police state.
It ain't just Phoenix they do that it's the hole state of Arizona the entire drug task force for pinal county is on the Brady list!
Arizona and Colorado
The FOP blindly backs all officers no matter how egregious their acts are. In the eyes of the FOP, every thing that every officer ever does is justified and that they can do no wrong.
Sounds like a gang doesn't it
Unions fill the same necessary function in the workplace that defense lawyers do in the judicial system, ensuring that everyone gets due process.
@@roberthudson1959 in theory, yes. In reality, not so much.
If you’ve ever been in a job that is unionized you would know that the union protects the guilty.
@@roberthudson1959There should be an exception for police. Teachers, welders, railroad workers etc do not tread on the rights of ordinary citizens. They're out there doing honest work with no intention to harm anybody. Police by definition are allowed to you physical force and take away liberty as they see fit. That's an incredible amount of power to have, and there needs to be a proportional check on their power. No union needed.
Let's be honest if the Brady List was being properly used half the Amazon rainforest would have to be cut down because they would need a lot more paper
If this is so traumatic for the deputies, like the union guy says...uh..maybe the deputies should act like professionals. Problem solved.
Notice that the union official couldn't care less how the officers make the citizens feel.
remove immunity and there wont be a need for brady lists, they will be in jail where they belong.
There would still be a need for them. They're invaluable for appealing past convictions.
Is there someplace where a citizen can get a nation wide list of every police officer who is on the Brady list ?
I was arrested before by rookie cops and I warned them what they were doing was going to get them into trouble. 3 weeks later charges were dropped and they were arrested and put on the Brady list. I won a lawsuit. They should have listened.
Everybody needs to be held accountable for their actions.
EXEPT the pigs & pigs union that’s unknown territory to them accountable 😮
It's sad that law enforcement only uses the Brady list as a way to get at each other instead of using it to single out bad cops like it's supposed to
Police investigating themselves is like most ridiculous thing ever.
I've never met a cop that tells the truth and believe me I've watched them lie in court to a judge
A cop also lied in my court case.
They all lie. Problem is that when they do it can have a huge impact on another human being's life..... That should not be allowed
3:18 I have observed it on multiple occasions. I was turned down after being in the top 2% of applicants to a police force. I was too honest...it would of been a strain against there blue line. They have no interest in hiring honest people.
How is it they are no longer trusted to testify but trusted to take human lives?
See well they were brady listed for lieing about fellow gang members, they still have the right, neigh, the duty to kill a mere citizen, if the citizen insults them or does something scary
Citizen lives are equal to 1/3 a blue line gang member life.
All law enforcement needs to be reformed so much corruption thanks to auditors and cameras we have a small start and a long way to go
I believe law enforcement officers should be held accountable more than the general public.
Strange that they are using USPS property to send items through their X-ray device. I’m pretty sure that is in violation of Federal Law.
"Obviously, this is something new for us. Accountability for actions isn't something we normally face." -Fraternal Order of Police
What you quoted, I didn't hear him say that. Do you have a time stamp?
@@lances4803 closest I heard was 2:49
Shows what they are really like when there are no cameras or other law officers . Face it , they were on their good behavior when this took place .
Basically it was higher authority telling the lower authority don't do this again.
That's Right Just another day of injustice at the court house .
Who can get away with criminal activity and get away with it other than some in authority?
Bizarre that an officer can be on a list like that and not get fired. If you’re too much of a liar to be trusted in court you probably shouldn’t even be allowed to work at McDonald’s, let alone in law enforcement
Where's the rest of the video and the audio? The scariest part of this is that the reporter said this is the first time this has happened. I pray all of those lives these officers, and so many more like them, have destroyed are being put back together again. Video and body cams have done nearly nothing but prove to the good citizens (and officers) of this country how corrupt and out of control many police agencies are. Thank GOD for this technology. I pray for their victims.
Clearly states the video has no audio. Did you hear that audio?😂😂
I'm glad to see them being treated like everybody else but I'm not holding my breath
The nerve of that fraternal order of Police officer to say that this is never happened to us before is a boldface lie.
If a cop can't testify in court or there cases can't be tried in court due to them being on the brady list, then what good are they as cops??? Fire them!!!
Ego often trumps intelligence, and that goes for both sides of an issue.
Fire those cops and sue them
When one acts like a fool one should expect to be treated accordingly.
Every officer working at a department on a brady list should be posted at the front door of the department they are working at.
I hope one day all police are held accountable.
newspapers have worked this for a hot minute- like a year plus. Thanks for reporting an update on this
Being on the brady list should come with mandatory jail time.
If only there were some way I could get on a list at my job that makes me unable to do my job yet still get paid for it. I don’t believe any cop can be embarrassed by anything. Blue line of sociopaths.
Two months and much of this will stop.
Lawyers having trouble following rules and going through a security line, surprise surprise
They have no problem getting innocent peoples Id and putting them on list! It is cops who should be on list!
Not surprised
Exactly
What they did is MISCONDUCT!!
You give a draft dodging civilian a badge a gun tanks level 3 level 4 body armor all kinds of elbow space
without proper training being strained or stressed during training give him some type of immunity and honestly believe stuff like this will never happen?
come on...
The Brady List should actually be the Banned from Holding LEO Credentials List!
"Being caught lying takes a toll on officers and deputies..."
We need two things..one a database that has all police officers in it and their conduct and also a law that if fired from any police or sheriff for any sort of abuse of power you can never again work in any form of law enforcement..
Let's just wait until the cops investigate themselves and see what happens.
Wait so the attorneys involved also put them on the list? Like.. falsifying things is 100% bad, too, but... this also feels a BIT abusive. There's no investigation before they go on the list?
Ban the FOP
Since we only got to see the end of the clip, how do we know it wasn't the lawyers that were causing the problems and are lying about it in their deposition??
Exactly. Furthermore, the attorney works for the same official that put the officers on the Brady list. That seems like a conflict of interest to me.
If a cop is on the Brady List why are they still a cop?
You can watch the body language of the Attorney, and the way he snatches his ID up and motions toward his chest, in the "Do you know who I am attitude" but the hate for cops is strong and the actual truth has no place in a haters mind.
Why would they need keystone court house cops testimony?
If they lie about something small, they'll lie about something big.
Why do they always get upset when someone doesn’t know them? 😂
But they are still police? This is a perfect example of a two tier legal system!!!
Do they have a list of Lawyers and Judges too . Wrong is always wrong no matter who it is
Great reporting
How often do law enforcement get psychological tests?
So ... just to be clear.
Some sherrifs accused prosecutors of being rude, and the prosecutor put those sherrifs on the Brady list? Yep, doesn't smack of retaliation at all.
You know that the justice system is in trouble when cops fight cops
The prosecuter shouldn't have that much of a choice.
All cops should be on the Brady list.
Its all a joke on citizens they should be charged
Bad apples...toss em out! Permanently!!!
Any other job will get your fired... as a sworn public officer, thats criminal filing a false report. In the end just shake hands and have a beer.
The Cop must have thought he was way superior to a Court Doorman and did not need these silly Security Checks.
The officers were running the security screening. The prosecutor was apparently unhappy about having to go through it.
They get put on a “ list “....We would be put in cuffs ...
We check to make sure we did nothing wrong. You can trust us.
If they're on the Brady list why are they even still employed cause if their testimony can be brought into question then the officer is basically ineffective at their jobs
payouts for police misconduct need to come from police pension funds not city tax dollars
right on!
That Brady list is a joke
Brady list should be a termination and bar for life nation wide from LEO work
Citizens that been arrested from these guys cant imagine
Good stuff!!
Oh geeze, I thought it was gonna show them doing something horrible. That’s it??
So, the two Checkpoint Officers had a problem with the entitled Commonwealth Attorney? Now, the two Sheriff Deputies are under investigation? Sounds like classic abuse of power by a County Attorney.
If nothing else, there's a clear conflict of interest on the CA's part.
The officers at the checkpoint were simply doing there job by screening each and every person who entered the court.
The problem was the “childish, we’re better than” ego of the prosecutors.
You see, they feel like there smarter than the little people, and they don’t have to abide by the rules.
They just need the officers to bow down to them
I can tell at the beginning, its a match up of egos.
That list should be much bigger.
It doesn't matter if it's an internal dispute. If they lied in their reports, they lied.
Then that determination needs to be made by an outside agency, not the same CA's office that has a clear conflict of interest due to one of its employees being involved in the altercation. As it stands, there's not enough footage to support either side and legally, both parties have the same credibility in court.
When you start spouting "Don't you know who I am?", it signifies arrogance and doesn't promote good communication. Check your attitude at the door!!!
End qualified immunity of all public servants.
It sounds to me like they got what they deserved. If they treat other officials this way just think how they treat citizens.
Oh?! It's that simple to place an officer on the Brady List? Truly, most LEO must be stellar examples of humans being.
Because attorneys NEVR bring in unauthorized or illegal items, right?
this is what they get put on the Brady list for? not violating citizens" rights?
Gee.. who is shocked? No one.
Wow, the cops lied. Really! Now you understand how the citizens feel when it happens to them and you stand by and do nothing.
EVERY cop in the country should automatically be placed on the "Brady list" until proven otherwise!
Back the blue till it happens TO YOU!!!
Cops getting bullied. LMAO. Stop resisting, if only they complied, etc...
Is the shock that they got caught?
Should go to prison
Rules for thee not for me!!!