Some people are good at book learning. I’m old school and learned with a hands on understanding of how mechanical things work. One of the little tricks I learned was to use a small bungee cord from harbor freight to hold the lifter covers up and out of the way. I heard some people using clothesline pins but a clothesline pin isn’t something that I really have laying around. All in all very informative video on how to adjust the pushrods.
Out of all the "adjust pushrod" videos I watched, yours was the icing on the cake. I did exactly as you instructed, ignored such things as TDC, and had no knowledge of my brand names to use any such calculator charts (flats info etc), and now my bike runs perfectly after a complete rebuild! I cannot thank you enough for solving what I believed was a mysterious pain in the ass problem with no solution in sight. THANKS!!!
I am here trying to find out the same info as I just vought the bike and have no idea how many turns to do on teh nut after zero lash. How many did you do?
Dude!!!! I love 2 things about this video! (1. Your rockin' hairdo!! (2. This video is the ONLY video I've seen that makes any sense!! Thanks dude!!! Mullets 4 life🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸
@@fixingorflipping I learn by waching and doing I'll have to check out your channel that's for sure finding the right video with and easy explanation those are hard to come by 🤘
Hell yeah, this one's going in my Save folder for when I have to do this job. Great simplified instructions! 👍 I get a headache watching most other vids on this subject 😂
Wow, the best explanation on simplifying it for everyone. Every video you got on RUclips of this exact same install these guys are taking about lash and thousandths and adjusting to gap spaces and bla bla bla. But you have made it understandable for any gearhead and I can not appreciate that anymore. Going to save my self almost $400-$500 in labor for a cam swap
paper clip and a rubber band to hold covers up. also when cam lobes are down 'base circle' piston is up on TDCC. top dead center compression. so you did it correctly and had it on TDCC :)
Thanks JC, that is super simple. as a non mechanic too, getting an 87 flhtp road ready again after sitting for about 6 yrs, this helps. I have also completed the trann seals, rebuild clutch basket, on the primary side. cam, bearing, seal, and breather gear lifters pushrods, and should be gooing back together early next week. I am a biit concerned about the eletronic timing, but i did mark where it was before. I just found you and subscribed. Thanks again PS nice FXR!
Bro thank you so much your method it work for me started my Evo up today after a few months of trying to figure out how to installing ajustable push rods thanks again happy trails
@fixingorflipping could you please do a video on base gasket and lifter block gasket 96 evolution motor. I wish mine would stop leaking. Great video on push rod adjustment. 0:41
I’m adjusting push rods now after having top end rebuilt. I find TDC on the compression stroke by watching the lifters and feeling compression in the cylinder. Then check with by inserting a straw in the cylinder to make sure. Then adjust as you show. Thanks for making this video.
This is a awesome video great explanation and greatly appreciated. I am confused as to why once you have adjusted it to no slack and go through your “3” turns and lock everything down how does it become loose again? How do you know how many turns you need?
Wow you have really made it so simple man I don’t do good with reading how to do things like this and I have done it before but it’s been 16 years and can’t remember how to do it right
I can actually understand your presentation instead of all that techno bla...bla...bla B.S. from Doc Harley and the rest of them know-it-alls! Outstanding!
This the backyard method.. it works, but its not terribly precise with hydraulic lifters.. the reason we count flats is to firmly bottom out the lifter cup, then count backward a number of flats, (depending on your thread count per inch) so the lifter cup doesn't stay bottomed out.. need alittle space in there.
Ok so what happens if when they bleed down you still can't free spin them? Just back them off a little more til they free spin? I'm still unclear on this and I'm going to install a 1275 kit with SE heads on my Sportster. So please reply. Thanks.
If they don't bleed down to the point where you can spin the rods with your fingers, you most likely turned more flats than is required for your specific push rods. Check your threads per inch and correct accordingly. S&S quickie push rods are 4 turns (or 24 flats) for example. Other brands may only require 3 turns, (18 flats).
Hey Great explanation...procedure is explained very well...one pointer I would add.. on the cylinder you are adjusting the pushrods on, it is absolutely ok to do intake and exhaust, then wait the 10 -15 minutes just once per cylinder... Be Safe. Don HD PHD MASTER TECH..
97’ evo installed Andrews EV27, Andrews adjustable pushrods and S&S hydraulic lifters. Settings pushrods to Andrews 24 flats as how your doing it. The lifters are not bleeding down. What would cause them to not bleed off?
How do you know how many flats on the pushrods does it say how many on the certain ones you purchase? And how would you go about cutting them off if you have solid pushrod tubes? obviously you can’t see if one’s on overlap or not to cut them . I’m wanting to change to adjustable ones on my sporty and the tubes are solid
So I have a softail evo here and I want to adjust the pushrods. The bike is noisy right now so I am sure it needs to be adjusted. My question is. With them all ready pre adjusted in the bike. Do I just get the cam to poition, and then adjust them to slight lash?
I would totally back them off and start over with the adjustment process. Usually once pushrods have been adjusted correctly, they don’t require re-adjustment. So if the bike was quiet and then over time got noisy,, you could have a bad lifter.
I did mine and the pushrods would turn easily right as soon as I finished. I squirted oil in the oil hole til it came out the top of the lifter. Still they would turn easily. Did I do something wrong or you think it just bled down before I could get the pushrod tight?
Where did the three turn figure come from? I have unknown type ( to me) adjustable rods in my engine and am trying to figure what proper adjustment is.
YO BRO GREATLY APPRECIATED THANKS FOR SHOWING ME. DO YOU THINK IT MATTERS IF I CUT THE TWO FRONT PUSH RODS OFF AND ONLY USE BRAND NEW ONES FOR THE FRONT.JUST WONDERING LOL FOR NOW I MIGHT DO IT SO PUHLEASE ET ME KNOW IF YOU KNOW THANKS MY NAME IS LUKE BY THE Way
Can you give me your definition of "over lap?" Does it mean the same thing as "base circle of the cam?" I know you said that in your procedure, you do not get involved in determining tdc, but just for my edification, when the cam (twin cam) for whatever cylinder you are working on is on overlap, does that indicate that the cylinder is on tdc?
@@fixingorflipping appreciate the video. but.... valve overlap is when both valves are open (and so would both be moving). Overlap allows the the escape velocity of the exhaust gasses to aid in the intake of fresh fuel and air. So... one cylinder is experiencing overlap and the one you're adjusting is on the base circle.
Hi All, valve overlap is when both intake and exhaust valves are briefly both open...as exhaust gases exit, intake gets a little boost via low/ high pressure difference.. as intake stroke progresses vaporization of fuel droplets gets enhanced.. Be Safe Don
IM FIXING MY SOFTTAIL ITS A 97 1340 EVO AND IM PUTTING AN ANDREWS CAM SHAFT IN IT NOTHING CRAZY JUST TO WAKE IT UP ABIT IM ,54 NOW AND WELL I GET IT HOW I CAN GET JUST AS HURT AT 45 OR 145 I JUST WANNA CRUISE LOL AND OCCASIONALLY LET HER RIP ABIT YOU KNOW TWIST MY WRIST AND FEEL MY TWIG AND BERRIES JIGGLE LOL.. Anyhow WHY AM I HAVING A HARDTIME TAKING THESE TWO OUT ILL SHOW YOU
Hello, no you can’t. While one cylinder is on the base circle of the cam, the other is not. They will never be on the lowest point of the cam at the same time. Thanks!
You should start by measuring your pushrods TPI (threads per inch) so that you know what you’re working with and then can find out how many flats, turns, etc. you will need for adjustment. You need to literally count the number of threads there are in 1 inch of the threaded part of one of your pushrods.
This is a great vid on setting adjustables but again- I have to ask- WHY are adjustable rods in the bike in the first place? You're introducing 4 more points of failure in a Harley engine- as there isn't enough already. For what?? ... so you can save an hour and a half labor?? How often are you in there to justify cutting rods? People- think. You're eventually going to have to go upstairs anyway, valve seals don't last forever, breathers on twincams DO need to be changed. Unless you're running solid lifters - which if you are, that's a whole new convo; then just say NO to adjustables. As I stated in the beginning, IF you are going to install adjustables- THIS is the vid to watch.
thanks for the tip you made it look simple it looks like i have to do this have a tick noise on one rod do i have change all lifters i look all over and this looks like the best way to do it seen them use rubber bands to hold up rod covers to bolts one more question is solid rod better or adjustable rod thanks again my brother used to throw wrenches at me to teach me how to work on bikes you sound like you be a good teacher heres a free song for you ruclips.net/video/V-KBFWu8EOk/видео.html
I am glad someone can cut out all the b.s. Thanks for explaining it in a easy way. big help!
So happy it helped you! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. 🤘
Wow. That's the biggest and best mullet I've ever seen.
😂😂😂🤘
Some people are good at book learning. I’m old school and learned with a hands on understanding of how mechanical things work. One of the little tricks I learned was to use a small bungee cord from harbor freight to hold the lifter covers up and out of the way. I heard some people using clothesline pins but a clothesline pin isn’t something that I really have laying around. All in all very informative video on how to adjust the pushrods.
Out of all the "adjust pushrod" videos I watched, yours was the icing on the cake.
I did exactly as you instructed, ignored such things as TDC, and had no knowledge of my brand names to use any such calculator charts (flats info etc), and now my bike runs perfectly after a complete rebuild!
I cannot thank you enough for solving what I believed was a mysterious pain in the ass problem with no solution in sight. THANKS!!!
Hell yeah!!! Glad we could help
I am here trying to find out the same info as I just vought the bike and have no idea how many turns to do on teh nut after zero lash. How many did you do?
Dude!!!! I love 2 things about this video! (1. Your rockin' hairdo!! (2. This video is the ONLY video I've seen that makes any sense!! Thanks dude!!! Mullets 4 life🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸
Wow, thanks!
I'm not a mechanic but I'm tackling this job on my 96 evo softail this is so much easier explanation
So glad it helped!
@@fixingorflipping I learn by waching and doing I'll have to check out your channel that's for sure finding the right video with and easy explanation those are hard to come by 🤘
Bravo ,paperclips and rubber bands hold those pushrod tubes.
Easily explained,,Thanks Josh .
Excellent informational video on doing it the easy way. Thanks!
Hell yeah, this one's going in my Save folder for when I have to do this job. Great simplified instructions! 👍 I get a headache watching most other vids on this subject 😂
Thanks for watching!
Wow, the best explanation on simplifying it for everyone. Every video you got on RUclips of this exact same install these guys are taking about lash and thousandths and adjusting to gap spaces and bla bla bla. But you have made it understandable for any gearhead and I can not appreciate that anymore. Going to save my self almost $400-$500 in labor for a cam swap
So glad it helped!
Man...ty for this video, no bs and understandable by the common man
Use to paperclips and rubber bands to hold them up
39 years wrenching. A.S.E. Master tech. L1. This is the BEST a$$ thing I have seen in decades. Found it by accident, but I think I am gonna subscribe.
Thank you! We truly appreciate it.
Thank you for sharing this video brother. every job that I've had in my life was on the job training. Thank you for teaching me how to do this job.
Thanks for watching! 🤘
When the exhaust is closing and inlet is opening.. you are on the rock.
Thanks man…
paper clip and a rubber band to hold covers up. also when cam lobes are down 'base circle' piston is up on TDCC. top dead center compression. so you did it correctly and had it on TDCC :)
Thanks JC, that is super simple. as a non mechanic too, getting an 87 flhtp road ready again after sitting for about 6 yrs, this helps. I have also completed the trann seals, rebuild clutch basket, on the primary side. cam, bearing, seal, and breather gear lifters pushrods, and should be gooing back together early next week. I am a biit concerned about the eletronic timing, but i did mark where it was before. I just found you and subscribed. Thanks again PS nice FXR!
Thanks for the feedback and watching. Good luck!
Thank you homeboy! Your video made it comprehend able for me(who wasn't a straight A math student). Lifesaver! Thanks again!
Bro thank you so much your method it work for me started my Evo up today after a few months of trying to figure out how to installing ajustable push rods thanks again happy trails
Glad it helped 🤘
@fixingorflipping could you please do a video on base gasket and lifter block gasket 96 evolution motor. I wish mine would stop leaking. Great video on push rod adjustment. 0:41
I’m adjusting push rods now after having top end rebuilt. I find TDC on the compression stroke by watching the lifters and feeling compression in the cylinder. Then check with by inserting a straw in the cylinder to make sure. Then adjust as you show. Thanks for making this video.
Glad it helped!
Thank you, I am going to give this tactic a try tonight! Have had zero luck with the other videos
Good luck and thanks for watching! 🤘
The best simplest video yet!
Wow, thanks!
This is a awesome video great explanation and greatly appreciated. I am confused as to why once you have adjusted it to no slack and go through your “3” turns and lock everything down how does it become loose again? How do you know how many turns you need?
Great work... most videos made it sound like you're supposed to adjust the cylinder on the bay circle.. good job explaining
Thanks for watching 🤘
thanks for helping me understand this. your video is perfect thank you
Glad it helped!
Great information. Helped a ton, thanks
So happy it helped!
Thanks josh. Worked for me
Glad it helped!
Good info. I am trying to figure this out. Will give this a try.
thx for posting im just getting ready to fix a leak an need to be playing with the pushrods....didnt notice any background noise...
Thanks for watching!! Good luck.
Wow you have really made it so simple man I don’t do good with reading how to do things like this and I have done it before but it’s been 16 years and can’t remember how to do it right
So happy it helped!
I can actually understand your presentation instead of all that techno bla...bla...bla B.S. from Doc Harley and the rest of them know-it-alls! Outstanding!
Thank you for watching and the comment! Hope it helps!
Awesome information brother I really appreciate it. Thank you
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
This the backyard method.. it works, but its not terribly precise with hydraulic lifters.. the reason we count flats is to firmly bottom out the lifter cup, then count backward a number of flats, (depending on your thread count per inch) so the lifter cup doesn't stay bottomed out.. need alittle space in there.
Great video! helped alot with installing my pushrod's👍🏻 , as a learner does the sideplay make any difference?
Made it much simpler and an amazing video that shows the common sense way to wrench❤
So happy it helped!
Ok so what happens if when they bleed down you still can't free spin them? Just back them off a little more til they free spin? I'm still unclear on this and I'm going to install a 1275 kit with SE heads on my Sportster. So please reply. Thanks.
If they don't bleed down to the point where you can spin the rods with your fingers, you most likely turned more flats than is required for your specific push rods. Check your threads per inch and correct accordingly. S&S quickie push rods are 4 turns (or 24 flats) for example. Other brands may only require 3 turns, (18 flats).
Buddy, with a mullet like that I bet you get it perfect first time every time 😂 jokes aside, good info I appreciate the knowledge
Hahaha! Thanks for watching! 🤘
Hey Great explanation...procedure is explained very well...one pointer I would add.. on the cylinder you are adjusting the pushrods on, it is absolutely ok to do intake and exhaust, then wait the 10 -15 minutes just once per cylinder...
Be Safe.
Don
HD PHD MASTER TECH..
Thanks for the info!
Hey Don, on my 99 sportster 1200 I've got oil blowing out the trans vent tube all over my back tire, not good. can you tell me what it could be?
This is exactly how I do it guys. To the T
97’ evo installed Andrews EV27, Andrews adjustable pushrods and S&S hydraulic lifters. Settings pushrods to Andrews 24 flats as how your doing it. The lifters are not bleeding down. What would cause them to not bleed off?
That’s a cool trick!
Wow great explanation 🙏🤘😎🤘
Thanks for watching!
Thanks! Simple easy explanation! That's a good video!
Thanks for watching!
That's about the same principle I use on the old Chevy engine, or most for that matter. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
How do you know how many flats on the pushrods does it say how many on the certain ones you purchase? And how would you go about cutting them off if you have solid pushrod tubes? obviously you can’t see if one’s on overlap or not to cut them . I’m wanting to change to adjustable ones on my sporty and the tubes are solid
So I have a softail evo here and I want to adjust the pushrods. The bike is noisy right now so I am sure it needs to be adjusted. My question is. With them all ready pre adjusted in the bike. Do I just get the cam to poition, and then adjust them to slight lash?
I would totally back them off and start over with the adjustment process. Usually once pushrods have been adjusted correctly, they don’t require re-adjustment. So if the bike was quiet and then over time got noisy,, you could have a bad lifter.
Great video!!
How many flats do I turn if I have unknown brand pushrods? Unknown cam and lifters also.
Frt intake up ,adjust rear intake, frt exh up, adjust rear exhaust. Do same for front cylinder rears up ! Simple!
Stay down Josh great video
Thanks! Will do!
I did mine and the pushrods would turn easily right as soon as I finished. I squirted oil in the oil hole til it came out the top of the lifter. Still they would turn easily. Did I do something wrong or you think it just bled down before I could get the pushrod tight?
Thanks for posting this but get 4 paper clips and big rubber bands or small bungee cords and pull the push rod covers up out of the way.
how do you correct if after 5 minutes the rod is to tight? just back off the adjuster nut?
Exactly!
Thank you I like your way good for me thanks
Happy it helped!
Will this technique work on any Harley? I have a 2013 sportster 48
Why do you have to wait for the one to bleed down to move into the next one on the same
Cylinder ?
Where did the three turn figure come from? I have unknown type ( to me) adjustable rods in my engine and am trying to figure what proper adjustment is.
Hello! If you see the response to @fouledplugchoppers it might help. Thanks.
Get your self a holly carb return spring for throttle Linkage from are car ,been doing this for 35 years
YO BRO GREATLY APPRECIATED THANKS FOR SHOWING ME.
DO YOU THINK IT MATTERS IF I CUT THE TWO FRONT PUSH RODS OFF AND ONLY USE BRAND NEW ONES FOR THE FRONT.JUST WONDERING LOL FOR NOW I MIGHT DO IT SO PUHLEASE ET ME KNOW IF YOU KNOW THANKS
MY NAME IS LUKE BY THE Way
Can you give me your definition of "over lap?" Does it mean the same thing as "base circle of the cam?" I know you said that in your procedure, you do not get involved in determining tdc, but just for my edification, when the cam (twin cam) for whatever cylinder you are working on is on overlap, does that indicate that the cylinder is on tdc?
Yes you are correct. When the tappets on a cylinder are NOT moving up/down, it is because that is the “base circle” of the cam.
@@fixingorflipping appreciate the video. but.... valve overlap is when both valves are open (and so would both be moving). Overlap allows the the escape velocity of the exhaust gasses to aid in the intake of fresh fuel and air. So... one cylinder is experiencing overlap and the one you're adjusting is on the base circle.
Hi All, valve overlap is when both intake and exhaust valves are briefly both open...as exhaust gases exit, intake gets a little boost via low/ high pressure difference..
as intake stroke progresses vaporization of fuel droplets gets enhanced..
Be Safe
Don
Thank you!
Hope it helped.
I can dig it.
rubber band and paper clip holds them good
IM FIXING MY SOFTTAIL ITS A 97 1340 EVO AND IM PUTTING AN ANDREWS CAM SHAFT IN IT NOTHING CRAZY JUST TO WAKE IT UP ABIT IM ,54 NOW AND WELL I GET IT HOW I CAN GET JUST AS HURT AT 45 OR 145 I JUST WANNA CRUISE LOL AND OCCASIONALLY LET HER RIP ABIT YOU KNOW TWIST MY WRIST AND FEEL MY TWIG AND BERRIES JIGGLE LOL..
Anyhow WHY AM I HAVING A HARDTIME TAKING THESE TWO OUT ILL SHOW YOU
great video. thanks
Glad you liked it!
Can you do both rods on each cylinder at the same time, if not why?
Hello, no you can’t. While one cylinder is on the base circle of the cam, the other is not. They will never be on the lowest point of the cam at the same time. Thanks!
That is the simplest way I've seen
My whole problem is that I bought a bike with unknown aftermarket pushrods lol. I'm thinking just bottom them out and back them off halfway.
You should start by measuring your pushrods TPI (threads per inch) so that you know what you’re working with and then can find out how many flats, turns, etc. you will need for adjustment. You need to literally count the number of threads there are in 1 inch of the threaded part of one of your pushrods.
Kinda disappointed to see a RockStar drink and not a can of Busch Heavy...lmfao
Hahaha
This is the only acceptable mullet.
I thought you were wearing a coonskin cap at first!
🤣🤣🤣
So less complicated mucho Thanks
Happy it helped!
@@fixingorflipping I just performed your technique on my pushrods and Absolute Perfection. If you ever come to So Cal Drinks on me.
Nice fxr
Thank you!
Fancy holders aka wire hangers
😂😂😂
I need a fuckin lift in my garage😭
They definitely make a difference.
3 full turns equal 18 flats. i think
It depends on the tpi of your brand.
correct, if it is a 6 sided nut, 3 turns from mark to mark is 18 flats
Question, Are these New lifters that have never had the engine started?
Thanks for reaching out! These are used lifters, we replaced the heads and used the original lifters.
@@fixingorflipping Ok, What if they were new lifters is there a way bench prime them?
@@grizzly4437 thats a great question
@@grizzly4437 use a small oil canister with a pump to fill the holes and then let them soak in oil overnight. Works for me
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But what if you have solid lifters instead of hydraulic
Not sure, this is specifically for an EVO motor. Let us know if you find out 🤘
Sorry dammit i gotta gwt to work im late lol
This is a great vid on setting adjustables but again- I have to ask- WHY are adjustable rods in the bike in the first place? You're introducing 4 more points of failure in a Harley engine- as there isn't enough already. For what?? ... so you can save an hour and a half labor?? How often are you in there to justify cutting rods? People- think. You're eventually going to have to go upstairs anyway, valve seals don't last forever, breathers on twincams DO need to be changed. Unless you're running solid lifters - which if you are, that's a whole new convo; then just say NO to adjustables. As I stated in the beginning, IF you are going to install adjustables- THIS is the vid to watch.
Thank you for watching!
thanks for the tip you made it look simple it looks like i have to do this have a tick noise on one rod do i have change all lifters i look all over and this looks like the best way to do it seen them use rubber bands to hold up rod covers to bolts one more question is solid rod better or adjustable rod thanks again my brother used to throw wrenches at me to teach me how to work on bikes you sound like you be a good teacher heres a free song for you ruclips.net/video/V-KBFWu8EOk/видео.html
Glad it helped!
you guys are gonna put dealers shop work outta work