How to precisely install ANY brand of adjustable pushrod for Twin Cam EVO Sportster Big Twin!
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2017
- Some manufacturers instruct to set the install pushrod length by “flats” and others “turns”. In this lesson, I explain both methods of installation. I also demonstrate what it is we are doing in theory along with a bonus tip on what I feel is the ultimate way to verify what each revolution of a turn equals on ANY brand pushrod. This tip was taught to me by the machinist/engine builder Clay Jensen of Sioux City Powersports.
This is very useful tip when dealing with a used engine and you don’t know the brand of pushrod. It also allows a method to remove that old human error of “assuming”. As you will learn with a little research, even the same brand of pushrod manufacturers used different thread pitches! In the end, flats or turns must equal the required thousands of an inch in length. Watch this video for your free lesson!
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I'm so thankful for this video because I have these in my TC95 with SE203 cams and its time to do my cam tensioners. and I thought that they were like the S&S model with 4 turns. I'll be checking mine with a dial caliper to be sure. Thanks again.
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Always great knowledge to gain in your videos. I see new stuff all the time.
I just did all four of mine. Using a 1/2" socket and breaker bar to turn the engine. Looking down each lifter block I put each at their lowest point on the cam. Adjusted till I had no lash. Just touching the lifter and rocker no up or down play.
I am using Jims 1807 lifters and titanium pushrods (24 wrench flats per inch). Book calls for 15 flats (2.5 turns). Let bleed down. Then checked for spin with little to no resistance and NO UP OR DOWN PLAY.
Waiting on the last one to bleed down. As I write this.
Once everything is buttoned up. With the spark plugs out. I am going to rotate the engine with the starter till my oil pressure light goes out. Pop in the plugs and I will know if its all good. Will make a check at 200 miles and then probably every oil change after for 3 changes.
Engine was running like crap. Lots of after fire on start up. The rods were not adjusted right. 3 cams were on their flats while 1 was lifted. Got a short rod out of the deal. Always finding new problems to learn from.
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Set lash when the cam is 180 degrees from peak lift! Which is 360 degrees of engine rotation from peak lobe lift. Some call it the “heel” of the cam....
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Whoa 😲 , very informative video ! Thank you sir
Great explanation, Tks for doing.
This guy is a fantastic teacher...Does that make sense?
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I didn't really understand this video. I have to put adjustable push rods on my 92 evolution engine. Had a bad tappet and also had to replace cam. but Ill watch this video again a few times until I figure it out hahahhah. Thanks for the video.
I like this video Shane
Very informative thanks.
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I set em all at 3 turns and have zero issues. You can load the lifter a little more than .110" especially with aftermarket cams installed.
You simplified this, thank you. I ran into a problem with my bike that no one addresses and thought you might know. I replaced my lifters using the HD Screamin Eagle pushrods and Johson Hylift lifters. I adjusted the pushrods to where there was no-slack (starting point/0), then turned my HD SE pushrods to 4.3 turns to get close to .030 (they have 24 tpi). But the pushrods still seem to be loose as they can always be rotated by hand.
I notice the original factory lifters from HD seemed to be a manual hydraulic lifter and the new ones have a spring in them allowing the tappets to have more play than the originals. I am assuming the new lifters will not allow spring play when the oil pressure from a running bike thus the lifters will be under pressure and have less slack.
Question, are the original HD lifter solid(no spring, took it apart and didn't find a spring). Will the new lifters have travel because they have lifter springs and not under pressure? Thanx Greg
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Thank you. I did find out the problem. The first tech at Johnson told me the wrong max travel of the lifter. I learned it was .212 and needed to be adjusted to about .105. I had to readjust to cut down on chatter. Probably sitting at .120 now. I also found that the pushrods have slack in them until you tighten the jamb nut on the pushrod itself. No one mentioned this and I thought I wasn't adjusted out far enough on the pushrod. All has been corrected and bike is running. I will still join the site and thank you for the invite. Greg
Just curious why you wouldn't be worried about the valve hitting the piston while adjusting the push rod but in your video on reinstalling the rocker boxes you didn't want to torque the rocker assembly down until the lifters were bled. Is there a chance of valve and piston interference in both of these situations or is it more for torque accuracy when reinstalling the rocker assembly?
Nice use of the lathe and indicator to demonstrate.
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Good to know,...a soft jawed vice should work also?...I dont have a lathe yet.☺
I'm rebuilding the top end on my 97 evo electraglide and i cant find the make of the pushrods to figure out how many turns/flats i need for adjustment. This video was a great help and have subbed. Thanks
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Did you see the adjuster turned some when you tightened down the lock nut? I just installed some of these SE pushrods last night and learned than you need to have 3 wrenches on the push rod to tighten the lock nut without anything coming out of adjustment.
Kyle Bryan I thought the same thing.. seems like it moved a little
Hey Shane, I love all your videos, excellent teaching techniques,, my question is ,what ever adjustable pushrod you're using, weather for an EVO or twin cam are you trying to get that hundred thousand no matter what,, again no matter what push rod you're using do you want to set them to get rid of that hundred thousands of play correct? I will be buying the S&S adjustable for a twin cam 88b.. Thanks..
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i want to do a stage 2 on my RGS but this part is sketchy for me
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Does 2 1/2 turns work for my stock 2003 Road King Classic?
Hope you found what you was looking for . It depends on the Threads of the Pushrod .
Whats the best way to prime the lifters?
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@@How2Wrench i've found a good pump oil can with a metal spout pushed up against and closing off the side hole while pumping trigger works best until oil comes out of top of lifter
Just install everything like normal but leave the spark plugs out then turn the bike over with the starter until the oil light comes off and you’re good.
In the old days the rule was make adjustments as described, then go for a beer, then come back and do the other cylinder. If you are a fast drinker, you may have to have 2. Good video, not hard to understand the objective.
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Not a bad video except for when you finally tightened down the locknut at the end, you lost about an 1/8 of a turn in your adjustment. You either need to A. Compensate for that and add about an 1/8 turn or B. Use a third wrench on the flat area of the threads to hold it in place while you tighten the locknut down
That would surley work. Thanks for the add...
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Yeah, what if you don't have instructions with number of turns though?
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I get that 1 full turn equals 24 thou, but yr loosing me when you say 2 1/2 turns equals 82 thou, shouldn't it be 60 thou or is my math out of whack, great vid though
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The student who said it's not spinning because he tightened the nut, just isn't getting it.